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unless i missed it
proper insane player but he was unclutch on ilios, invisible on gibraltar, and i dont remember eich i think glads were just straight up unstoppable on eich
it's mostly done during watchpoint, when people don't want to see stats during matches
and an mvp can not have those performances in grand finals
i may have to rewatch the match
since state farm and IBM aren't sponsoring for stats
broadcast stats are in shambles
to see how much proper actually did in comparison to his team
but i do not remember him being the mvp caliber player he is hyped up to be
fate rein?
for most of that series
i dont remember how good that was
i remember the fate vs cr0ng doomfist matchup
it didn't work, but it did put fate onto doom which he naturally wasn't as comfortable on
i wish dragons didnt have the worst starting FDPS player in apac
really
they're such a fun team to watch when they're good
now I'm not saying they don't have a choice
but do you really want whoru on mei instead
charge doing good rn
i expect this to go SHD 3-2 @hot onyx @frosty patrol
it's sad
ngl it'd be funny as fuck
if shanghai just subbed in whoru
and tried to force joats
which is very good still
you never know they could do a 2-3
win for charge
there is no way
the shanghai dragons
the team that was leaps and bounds ahead of the next best teams in ow1
are going to lose to the tank that was dropped for not being up to houston's standards
rename the stat to LIP deadlift
tbh
if lip kev hanbin or shu win mvp
i will be satisfied
because hanbin and lip deserve it so fucking much
and it'd be nice to have a non fdps mvp
lip cannot do enough to carry fleta sadly
fleta is not that bad
one of the reasons i would sorta rather have shu win over kevin for mvp is bc it would be the third year in a row
where someone wins mvp bc they were a good tracer
among other things obv but like
last time we had a non dps player win mvp
was jjonak
i want a tank to win
it went from 2 tanks to one so i think it is harder for them
and they deserve it
hanbin smurf hawk
there are many good choices
maybe hadi with the other one
wtf was it called
actually the argument goes to dps having it even harder to stand out
true
main supports are not really meant for MVP material
as a tank main i want tanks to win
and flex supports will stand out easily if you look at how they can be in the right situation once and have the standings to back up their rating over damage players
I do see tanks competing with dps equally. Both are easy to quantify in stats
just ask whether you had to decide between Kilo or Coluge, who would get MVP?
hadi for DENNIS HAWELKA AWARD
dragons just sandbagging for playoffs like 2021 fr fr
not kilo so coluge
hawk is not mvp material
now what if you put Coluge against Proper for MVP?
and smurf has been good but not an mvp frontrunner
that's a lot harder to compare than Kilo, right
it'd absolutely be hanbin for tank
maybe role star
oohhhh
to be clear, go for it, say Proper MVP
you could make an argument for hawk role star
I don't really care for Atlanta this season
nah
he is very good
like very good
but i think other might deserve it
i feel like every time i look at my second monitor
fleta is dead in the killfeed
hanbin lip mvp statements are self explanatory
every time shu has been able to start he has carried glads to tourney wins
and he has been by far the most impactful FS this year
between shu and hanbin mostly for me
if you ask me which individual player
has had the most impact this year and the most influence
it is hanbin
I love my internet provider
hanbin is my completely unbiased mvp answer
my unbiased mvp is ZEST
proper is ARGUABLY slightly better than kevster but does not have the same success this year
but my biased mvp is Kevster
not remotely
because your same thinking could lead to aspire mvp
and an A- tier hitscan getting mvp
is not it
well Aspire didn’t reach a ton of success this season
ZEST consistently placed top 4 in every tournament
zar and winston sort of meta now?
With a staggering amount of dead weight
looks like it
change looking good still
doom jq dva and rein rush seem to be alternate tank picks
rein isnt good
but winston and zar are the main meta tanks rn
😭
not jq and rein other than chadi
i would honestly take the rein over the dva tbh
I wouldnt
punk had success
dva is probably a better choice
punk beat houston playing jq
against bad team
im saying this as a rein main
I saw them play orisa on day 1 and never again
nope
well
dirty
I feel like she does
atlanta beat toronto on orisa
hawk said that it was originally a meme pick
but actually felt good
and kalios beat shock
on orisa
granted proper was having issues with his eyes
so it shouldn't be taken at face value
but it still holds some value imo
s9mm kilo will be strange to see
shock will have to redefine how they play without their hypercarry to throw all their resources into
can we just have 3 mvps and call it a day
it feels so wrong to not give it to lip or hanbin
or a glads hypercarry
This is alot closer than I thought it would be. good match
i hope spark can get their shit together
they were my fav apac team
to watch
sadly with seoul being the top dog in apac again the profit fanboys will reemerge
and continue to overrate their B+ tier fdps
I would take profit fanboys over proper fanboys any day
idk
at least proper actually carries some weight to his praise
proper is easily a top 2 fdps
even if he is heavily overrated for the mvp conversation
Shock fans are just the worst ngl
true
They are so annoying
shock was my second favorite team in the league
until i met hellfire
now i absolutely despise shock
wouldnt it help your team qualify
Bad mistake
Nah Spark got this in the bag
Sans does a day go by when you dont cope?
I just wanna see Charge make it to playins over the Valiant bums
I don’t see you replacing a top 3 support line with a bottom 3 support line
Still coping
here's a proposition, nobody here wants to see Chengdu make it
look at kenobi he doesn't cope be more like him sans
how about they go 1-5 for the remainder of this stage
moth viol2t twilight and izayaki ljg ?
people do
no no hunters go
lol
FunnyAstro Alarm
ik you said top 3
Jimmy SLAPS
bc personally i would rate fastro alarm higher
Ok top 3 minimum
but also tbf i am talking out of my ass because i probably watched 2 games total in 2020
so i don’t summon memeicus before the prophecy says
Alarm was leagues ahead of Izayaki and FunnyAstro was equal at worst to LJG on lucio
I’m talking 2021 going to 2022
for some reason when i think of alarm i think of 2020
But his brig picked up in Countdown Cup
Probably because that’s the year he won ROTY
then i still see that as top 3 backline in 2021
shu skewed > ljg izayaki >= fastro alarm
then probably chengdu backline
then maybe shock
shock =~ dallas i forgot how to rate jecse
Jecse didn’t cost any games he just was mid on one of the best teams in the league
good work charge
piggy doing very well on charge
his zarya is good
noooo
that would have been a great blossom
fleta could not kill a lone ana
Gutting
sad!
:/
Oooooooomegalul
Good blade by choi
So dragons lose now because they are mentally boomed after c9?
26 seconds · Clipped by itsobiwankenobi · Original video "Overwatch League 2022 Season | Countdown Cup Qualifiers | Week 21 Day 4 - East" by Overwatch League
lets go charge
fap mive!
I think I got off to that Shang9
happy to hear it 👍
I will nut ferociously at the thought of Piggy Sigma/D.Va popping off here
time for another upset
we are no longer asking
love to hear it, just keep it off the carpet if you want to keep your relationship with the other residents in your household
sigh, someone's gone and stopped embeds from working
why are shanghai playing winston reaper sombra lucio moira
they aren't the type of team to win a title with a comp like that
fate playing smash ultimate
also piggy is the only one playing zarya it feels like
piggy playing don't starve
and it works really well
Xerneas playing Doom Eternal
choisehwan, jimmy and farway playing OW2
charge want this to go to round 3 huh
nah
jimmy fucks
i believe
also piggy winston was pretty decent on houston
LOL choi blocked izayaki so he couldnt walk out
apac mickey mouse region officially
choi omg
choi popping off so hard
fletass falls of the map
custa said it
i love guangzhouuu
wait
Some one check on memeicus
valiant beat dragons ?
piggy is very well
people said it was a lose for charge
but
you never know
we still have another match
the next one is going to be meh
what is this music bruh
Leave yesterday after they went 3-2 to Guangzhou
I have never doubted and always will have faith in Jimmy Sombra
you okay Neko
What a support gap
#nekotheworld
Fixa swallowled whole by AlphaYi's Pulse
How are fusion doing
Sad
Fusion after putting every resource in existence into zest reaper 😱
That should not of been that close
Fury just stayed alive for so long
fury carried
HOLY SHIT FURY COULD BE AVERAGE
DARE I SAY ABOVE AVERAGE
AND AIMGOD HIT A COUPLE OF SLEEP DARTS
this team as a 3v5 can be extraordinary
He stayed alive for so long
Was insane
And built a second grav
As much as I want fusion to keep fury in cause he’s pounding dorado jus isn’t great for zarya
Map diff 😩✊
If we can win then the series is much easier cause colloseo is really good for zarya reaper
Nvm they’re completely outclassed
Aimgod not turning around when AlphaYi goes for a pulse bomb dive within 3 seconds
Professional
alarm would have slept the tracer
Fusion when zest can’t kill 3 every fight
Actually real 
No shot
Realest of real
Mn3 should just go sojourn
sad day fixa dies with rally because he feeds into sojourn @hot onyx
fixa killed 2 cause he got nanoed
aimgod made a mistake
that caused fixa to kill 2
First kill wasn’t nanoed I think
due to neko fucking up
first kill was cleanup
lol
iirc
Still should of won that fight they had quicker ults tbh and it was a 5v5
We still somehow got held for about 3:20 in the first street of A
Is neko playing from home?
I mean when it’s a 2.5v5 I’m surprised it wasn’t a full cap
ZEST too good
i think neko
is
but still theres not a ping
discrepancy
MN3 needs to learn that there won’t be any follow up from his emps and get big ones
Wait what they won?
Yeah
Like
That was so much better
And now we r in a rlly good position because we can play reaper zarya
Belosrea was so good that map
Yeah
That’s why I was so confused
I guess that part of the map is just really enabling for winston players
good thing he wont
yeah the feeding instinct is too far gone
somthing with spark i think
😰😰😰
Oh they have nanoblade
Rip
HUGE
Wtf
Gargantuam from zest
Why are we getting a replay now we missed a fight LMAO
MNJESUS
LETS GOO
HOOOOO
easy!
Tis the season for the Spark ness up
he had to walk into 4 people with a sound barrier, an ana with nade, a reaper zarya and lucio
“highlighting Aimgod and FiXa for staying alive and cleaning up everybody in the grav” you mean for doing what normal support players do?
hey its still necessary
Yes it is
because bio nade is a stupid ability
Tru but effective
But it is true what has been said in Diary Of A Wimpy Kid
Wait rlly
You can lower everybody’s expectations to the point where they can be impressed with you doing practically nothing
Normal outcome
I think it’s time Shanghai fires fleta
The Changoon effect is taking place
It happens everytime
Lol
Ngl, With Proper's vision not doing good, and Changoon is negatively affecting shy, Kevin MVP
fraudzhou spark once again
trade deadline over
just wait until they get a good main support next year
cope
you’d be coping too if you had Neko and Superich as your choices
@cunning patrol
He hasn't done bad
Lori KDG
"Apac fans woke seeing Justice beating Shock 3-2 and now NA fans waking up seeing Charge beating Dragons 3-2"
Supreme by a long shot is the worst coach currently
Kuki
IMT
that guy gives me flashbacks
LA Valiant announce the signing of support player NoHill for the remainder of their qualifiers
dps*
NoHill is a sombra player according to liquipedia
Tank as well, NoHill does a Teru and commits to flex support
Or dear God they end up removing role lock in the lobby and it's too late to restart
APAC in chaos as Valiant play 4 dps 1 support
sounds appropriate
god the justice actually did beat sfs last night
wait what
did i miss something
?
No they didn’t schizo…
I am truly enjoying spark collapsing
Guxue should remain benched imo
plus the management are doing everything in their power to keep Hyunjae out of the team
man plays well on the same team as Pineapple AlphaYi LiGe Irony and Teru respectively and they avoid him like a plague
every single fight spark loses brings me great joy
I need them to remove role lock for one tourney
I'm excited to see hou v sfs just to see how bad sfs look after yesterday
so we can see chengdu win with a triple dps jinmu pharah comp
Houston are getting rolled and it's not even funny
maybe in the all stars
I would like for crusty to get his head out of his ass and play coluge
if you think
houston looked better
than shock
i am not sure what to tell you
because doge
I don't think hou looks better lmao
the justice on the other hand 🙂
I feel bad for doge
if Houston 3-0'd their first game in joats which they were close to
he probably wouldn't have been permasubbed out for danteh or they'd play him more
and now he might not have that team chemistry
i agree wholeheartedly
Assassin just assassinated SFS with his hacks
every time someone says assassin I miss brenshow
Typical assassin M.E.M.P.
#OWL2021 #OverwatchLeague #Overwatch #overwatchmoments
Assassin isn't that bad at Sombra he just had one bad gema
Who needs MAG
without punk
with punk
Another Playoff appearance by beating houston again classic
nah NYXL goes to map 5
apac looks hilarious. 3 teams perfectly average, 2 teams doing terrible, and 2 teams doing fantastic
they say this as if there was a chance of them losing to NYXL or Uprising
Their is a big chance
They lose to bostone
there is like 2 players on Boston better
I mean they could lose
1 depending on what day of the week Kalios plays on
Kalios zarya carried FiXa into beating Mer1t and ChiYo in contenders
when will ow1 close
october 2nd
what time
no clue
been watching the streams for hours and nary a token has been added to my account 🥲
my accounts are linked, ive checked everything. do i need to have it in the active window?
if anyone can help me id appreciate it
quite common for folks to get their tokens late, just restart your ow and it should pop up within 24 hours
i really dislike how there's no way to tell until they pop up. makes me not know if im wasting time
MS, FS, OT, and projectile dps
Imo
MT(Sadly)
As well
not fs and proj
will watching other youtube videos disrupt it? i know that's how it works for twitch to prevent multiple drop farms
I don’t think it should
other streams maybe?
you could always watch it on the owl website and you could see the green dot so you know its farming the tokens
i have it running in the background with the tab muted and i get drops
same
on youtube
dont mute it on the website just mute the tab and you'll be good
while watching other youtube videos
i was doing that, but whenever the stream isnt on the main tab it seemed to freeze so i couldnt tell if it was counting it
oof, i've had the stream muted the whole time so maybe thats why
yeah thats prob it :')
got my hands on 745 tokens now coolio
i wanted to get 1000 before ow2 dropped but i dont think thats happening
idk how many i'll be able to get, probably not even enough for 1 skin
especially if i keep messing up the drops lmao
💀
danny keeping it real. respect
those boards...
johnys board was comedically big
Nordic big board
Not the rop
i am ready for any OWL skin drops, but i think i got all non-team based ones already
I just bought my Shanghai sigma today and sone vault ones
vault ones ? you mean previously
Gangmanjamity
well
Is so washed
wtf is ny doing
ny look top tier
lovely stick fromspeedily there
this is why venom is nasty
Wot happened
Im turning off the stream
that was soooo fucking lucky
Im gonna ignore what i saw
remech kill by hawk cancelled emp
lmaoo
flora
Flora was doing so much
he killed 4 when they lost the fight
Flora is the goat
overtime
Its 2022 and self destruct is getting kills
He can't do more
i feel bad for flora, not for ny
from throwing to carrying in a single round
K1ng has asked for everyone who is playing to be executed 
imagine if flora didn't get slept there
makes you wonder how good sojourn really is sometimes
I wonder if nyxl org is still gonna blame flora
Being from NYC, I just want to say that we don’t claim NYXL 😂
Do you claim nysl?
W grapple
average blade footage
I’m so happy that junker queen was nerfed. it’s so nice to see variety
Excuse me venom
Gahhh damn venom
Fr
it was funny because I thought UV was like maybe 5 seconds off lamp because of the Flux but the window stall from nyxl actually helped them get it
me like venom hanzo
me when I can't kill the 175 hp hero with 3 slashes
I’m gonna need Yaki to clock out
Ok venom ain’t just a tracer specialist anymore
gg
Velkommen to the south
@hot onyx so yeahhhh about those 5 maps you were talking about, where they at tho ?
And now Paris vs Dallas. This is going to be so sad to watch
Na matches this tournament are a zzz
No chance
Imo
the only decent match today should be Outlaws vs. Shock
Paris and Vancouver are going to get stomped
3-1 dallas cause dallas likes giving maps away
that's a hot take
Can't wait to see this roll
do you not believe in paris?
I actually have to leave in around 30 but then the game will already be over
I do not

shocker
Nyxl back to being bad
to be fair paris always does best when their chances are the lowest
like last year when we beat dallas
and glads
we were also budget last year
biotic grenade is a balanced ability
this is
quite literally
the only
tank
in the game
that can cleanse
the ability
for someone else
too bad zarya is shit
the bubble discipline on hanbin is immaculate
also
zarya without reaper is a fool's errand
paris no
please
sto;
why do teams still not run the reaper with the zarya
I don't get it
i can always count on paris to steal the show!
runs zarya without reaper*
oh boy how am I supposed to push now!
sombra literally gets no value
you only have malthel to follow up on your hacks
against zarya its much harder to get value with sombra
emp gets beated
hacks get bubbled
at this level of play you have to be killing chiyo wherever he is to even think about emping
okay yeah no this ability needs to go
oh hey they're running genji/zarya
another character that likes just running at people with a shitton of survivability
crazy
if paris reverse sweeps i will do something big
talkin national news levels of big
I could've seen monkey on nepal
honestly if wub wubbed more they could've gone to round 3
They should've kept Vestola
@plush grail are you still excited for this season's playins
no
I hope for the mikeyy redemption arc today bit hopefully shock just plays coluge dva and sombra
Lmaoo
watching a delayed convo in real time is funny
Hou have no dva
Player
I think they should
Be fine
lmao what
Shock is deffo trolling
Dude wtf is this game
genuine question what is better to watch mirror orisa or jq
orisa
I'm sure I did
You missed proper torb the goat
and proper cant see
Mikey is helping the wrong team
Ayo
i hope that they start running coluge
Mickeyymouse bad
mikey actually killed samm
I don't know why they are playing mikey
100-0???
wait how didnt they touch
Other 2k for merit
Throwing hard i see
Throwing horribly
Ball is not the play
bro I love shock fans
if shock go JQ I mald
i mean its true its control and sometimes first map is wonky
"yo mikeyy orisa kinda nice"
"this is the mikeyy we needed to see"
the second he plays ball
Lmbao
#BlameCrustyNotmikeyy
I don't get why people are flaming the fuck out of mikeyy for what is very clearly something crusty wanted
i think its a comms issue on shock part
I just think they messed up their comms there
like mikey wasnt with them
Crusty wot are you doing
there were literally 3 fights on that entire point
People want him to fail
After his drama
because they gave them 25% without taking an engagement
this is not crustys fault imo
how
Whose is it
yeah it seems like a mikey lack of comms problem
Ok
there's no way shock run ball for like 5/6 maps so far and have it not be signed off by crusty
it's just ball is dogshit
imo mikeyy does not have enough balls
You have literally no basis to claim that
Lol
to switch off
he should mirror dva
(real)
Ball cannot do enough damage/peel to keep up with dva
^
he also is an ult battery for the other team
i mean i do it just didnt seem he was helping the team its just my opinion LUL
current sombra just also is not viably marked in hack to save ball
dva can at least consistently disrupt hacks
he will get replaced
Sombra hackin every time ball
either way
blizzard is actually so fucking brain damaged I can't even
imo that is not the way to play
i would much rather not be known as a ball 1 trick
Hopefully
We back to DVa
Or JQ
woooooo another shit character
let's go
I love overwatch league
teams are SO FUCKING GOOD right now
#WheirIsdoge
Warmin the bench
dome esports is a good prod company i think
Current supports are better than doge
I
Dva
do not like the hanzo here
Hahahahahahaha
Yes
Or Rein
ye honeslty rein might be fine too
What is even this positioning?
I would prefer soj on first point
Does DVa eats soj slow?
she does
since its projectile
huge emp
throw from pelican no
Mfw Finn zen viol2t ana
throw from crative
imagine they change sombra where she can hack a TP secretly so it wouldnt tp them back
I think that actually should be a mechanic considering it is a ground item that should function like turret and Bob essentially
however the idea that sombra's protections are so great even she can't hack it makes me chuckle
pooluge diff
really i thought it was support diff
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion or what but this meta looks more boring than joats
how does that happen
real
he was never a good dps
the start of this season
the very 1st match
Creative is the goat
He might as well role swap
Imo
Also this has been
Lmaooo proper
One of the worst
Unfortunate
Shu Mvp in my books
ult diff
what is danteh
doing there
LOL
creative such a goat
sad ana is his only good charcater
NO way!!
lastro is so
Shock lost
that was insane
With coluge???!!!
wow
Mikeyy not the problem??!!!
Lets goooo
mikey back in
lastro just hit one of the nastiest things ever
I was about to joke about how lastro somehow cannot seem to not die in neutral
Coluge out of his seat
he is the problem
Ok
okay maybe he is not the problem
but his hero pool is
creative is out of his mind brother
shock will do fine
I know this community has a history of overreacting, and I hope we avoid doing that here. I really want to shed that image in people's minds about OWL discussion. With that in mind, I think that @danteh is the best https://t.co/F2iXAZeqet in all of esports history.


