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Who are the top 5 dps heroes in ow2?
sojourn genji tracer are top 3 ik that π―
it's probably like
sojourn genji tracer ashe sombra
i feel like sombra will finally become a pubstomper character
even though she's mechanically difficult her value seems kinda crazy to think about if you can even get decent emps on a team
HELLO TORONTO FANS
Lmao love how they all went quite after the reverse sweep
yaki once again showing why he is better
Agree
Flora yaki best dps duo NA
Ngl, last stage NYXL started out with a reverse sweep
Tactical loss
We are exposing how bad finale is so he doesn't get picked up by other teams once we drop him
That's flawed logiv
U should keep finale being shit a secret
So that when u drop him other teams will think he's still decent but in reality he's dogshit bam bamboozled
Fuckin canadians dude
did junkerqueen brawl comp get nerfed?
yes
He shouldn't play at all
bros lost to nyxl π
that's my top 3 na team!!! we got rolled by the 3-15 team
in a meta where our best players got to play their comfort picks !
U can't compare shus accolades to violets
you're right
shu is playing at a time where the competition is at its highest
and the players are at their best
Nah bro you're just baiting
viol2t won his titles at a time where most teams in the league were shit
viol2t sadly fell off after 2020 grand finals
he is maybe B+ A- tier rn
instead of the undisputable best support player in the world
What
Ur acting as if that's not the case for nyxl too?
Lmfao
i forgot is ch0r0ng's comfort pick lucio or brig
he got to play both
twilight's best hero is hard meta
ch0r0ng's best heroes are very strong
That's crazy glads got to play kevster on genji skewed on brig asteo on Lucio and happy on any hard hs
muze and hotba get to play their comfort picks
And still lost to us
It's almost as if
When ur team has one absolute dogshit player
heesu got to play his sombra
That it drags the whole team down
didnt they lose
Crazy to think abt no?
Altough isn't a good tracer either
He fed his brains out
Also Flora had his best game of the season tbh
This was a strong performance from nyxl
now I see why jel rides sojourn so much
not the same as losing
to a team that has lost to the paris eternal
eyy
Completely different teams tho
Paris got the wub difference though
Like ur ignoring the artist pickup
current paris is better
Kukis departure
Mental reset
Etc
Lol
And I'm not even saying glads losing to Toronto is worse than us losing to nyxl
Like it's not my point
toronto below average team sadly
My point is that comfort heros do not matter as much because when one of ur teammates isn't even tier 1 level then it's whatever
Pay attention to finale and how hard he ints
Finale might genuinely be the worst dps in na outside of the Paris fdps
Exactly average
10 10 record 0 map w/l ratio
This cope is crazy
so is blaming all the fault on finale
It's not cope when it's true
They don't have a single player on a 400k contract
4*100k
Yall gotta stop eating up every reddit narrative fr
Chorong
Ch0r0ng is on 300k max
According to yiska
Which is understandable because he had around 10+ offers lmfao
if florida can win with anamo in
The only one that is overpaid is hotba
for good reason
against a bottom 3 team in the league
goatba
And his contract isn't that high either
They ain't bottom 3 in this meta tbh
If Flora keeps his form up
then they will be bottom 6
Nah
(above vancouver and toronto as well)
Don't think so
Borba zarya is pretty good yeah but would be better if he doesn't have to waste every second bubble to save finale
Agree
The player i feel the most for is heesu tho lmao
Do not talk smoke about botba
His sombra is actually class if u pay attention to it
He's almost always in a great position farm's emp fast has good emps and great hacks every fight
Sombra is just not impactful without a good team
tbh if edison can win a grand finals i dont see why toronto can lose to nyxl
Imagine going 2-4 with kevster on genji the best brig and the best Lucio and happy in joats
2-2 with happy
And then having an ego over a team that has to either start finale or altough πππ
Still lost to a B tier genji player and a B tier junkerqueen πππ
0-2 with a C tier hitscan against 2 of the best teams in the league
instead of having a C tier fdps against a bottom 3 team
They literally lost
To nyxl
The game before that
U guys could not beat the team that lost to nyxl 24 hours before the game
When nyxl was even worse than now
against nyxl
Both were
Better
Than glads
The ping excuse is bs because h01 arrived yesterday
So he had a handicap too
And we also demolished Houston 3-0
By that logic we are a still a top team in this meta because losing to NXYL in week 1 doesn't mean anything on a map 5
Also I thought scapegoating one player is just pure cope? What happened to that..
Toronto are probably going to be 2-4 at best 3-3 this stage
i still think facing against the 4 best teams at the meta when you are going through a period of trying to figure things out
and losing
is less embarassing than losing to nyxl
Houston was not one of the 4 best teams at the meta
In that week
They sucked donkey doodoo
glads played joats better than toronto
by the end of the qualifiers
as shown in the atlanta match
And again idk why ur still trying to say this when this was never my point
sooo true bestie :^)
of mid teams
you know that deep down
if toronto had won against london 3-1 in qualifiers
I couldn't care less dawg
grand finals would be dallas 4-2 glads
This is a rebuild season for Toronto
and toronto would have come in 5th or 4th or smth
I'm happy w a place 3 finish
That's higher than I predicted them before the season
(when every other team in the tourney besides dallas and shock is shit)
toronto are one big dick dps and tank from being contenders imo
Their rep has improved massively which means we can get the dps players we want next off season
Agreed
how did they go 2-4
They got bodied by Toronto
Threw against Boston week 1
And Nero was also dogshit
they lost against boston π
And they choked vs Houston
Also I think saying Toronto are below average this meta is fair
boston is the anti gatekeep team
Finale is dragging us down like crazy
they beat the gatekeepers then go back to being a bottom team
If we go 3-3 I'll be rlly happy
they didn't win a single fight on sanctum π
yea
Ik
I watched the maps we lost when I woke up
That's why I know I can blame finale lol
He takes up a lot of our resources
And doesn't generate any positives w it
how does muze although heesu ch0r0ng twilight
lose to 3-15
i do not understand
like
Altough fed
it can't just be tracer
which bottom tier teams do they play later this stage
that they will inevitably lose to
I also think twilight and ch0r0ng in particular had a very rough game
They play shock next
So we bound to be 0-3
for nyxl
OH
U mean NY
Wait lemme check
Atlanta justice Gladiators London Boston
Either NY go 1-5 again or they somehow pull off a miracle run
they will lose to atlanta justice gladiators and boston
I can see them beat anyone there besides glads lol
i do not see them losing to atlanta
as long as they don't throw like they did against toronto
but it's atlanta
Atlanta also went to map 5 w Toronto
I hope ratlanta loses
atlanta 6-0
atlanta 5-1
The saddest part is
after they lose to nyxl
2-4
Heesu sombra decay tracer sounds goated
Washington Justice will lose to the New York Excelsior
atl beat shock btw
i could see that
With the current line up they have with speedily, venom, hawk, vigilante, and uv, they could win against nyxl, mayhem, and the justice. Possibly beating shock depending on both teamsβ records for this week
so long as they dont switch the lineup, they should be fine since those players dominate when playing together
we will see
bc toronto did give nyxl a good fight and it was verrry close
you can say that for reign, but they could have swept the defiant if they were comfortable with speeidly+venom or if nero and kai stepped up on circuit royale
so if reign show up with their speedily line-up, favor the reign
if not, nyxl can actually catch the reign off guard
again we will see
plus nyxl do get wins from comfortable teams, then go back to being π
i think kai played phenomenal on map 3
id still favor atlanta over nyxl yeah
reign randomly drop to below average teams not bad teams
not happening
That was funny
23 seconds Β· Clipped by itsobiwankenobi Β· Original video "Overwatch League 2022 Season | Countdown Cup Qualifiers | Week 21 Day 3 - East" by Overwatch League
THEY LOST
playoff profit is out
so if Seoul 3-0 dragons does that mean valiant is good?
they might be able to put up a fight against the dragons
oh god that was so easy
wtf
watches.........
wtf is going on with SHD again?
i don't want to believe that they were dominating just because of junkerqueen?
oof
and what about shd's other tank?
No way
Oh dragons
valiant better now
wow, what a disappointment by SHD
piggy lets go
CHARGE THE WORLD
I'm hoping for the piggy to pay off
the spirit of chengdu flows through the charge
Jimmy Ducks
so is piggy like
zarya specialist
while cr0ng plays everything else or smth
or is piggy a straight up replacement
this will be interesting
lets go piggy
if apr1ta was in over choi there would be 9 2021-22 chengdu players in the lobby
did i see a nano lucio
idk what mmonk nanoed
it could look like a sidegrade, more likely replacing cr0ng if he isn't prepared to have his spot taken
menawhile
whiffed pulse from choisehwan
Kenobi did see the result of whiffed pulse

Hunters were off the point
60 seconds Β· Clipped by itsobiwankenobi Β· Original video "Overwatch League 2022 Season | Countdown Cup Qualifiers | Week 21 Day 3 - East" by Overwatch League
POV you are farway begging to sweep chengdu with piggy and choi's reaper
alright who turned off gif embed in this channel and only here
how do you out-chengdu the chengdu hunters?
by putting their former players onto the roster
Piggy 
agree
guys what predictions you have for uprising vs mayhem for owl tokens LOL?
do you have to make the predictions match with the actual scoreboard to get tokens or just make it close enough?
perfect i assume
A C C E L E R A N D O
we got 3-2'd
that is not bad though
most thought it was going to be 3-0 or 3-1
that makes valiant one step closer into the play-ins
Valiant is now a top 3 team
Charge top 3
can't wait for belosrea to jump onto the highway with nano primal
MN3???
he is so bad
omg rein rush
Dear god heβs doing it again
supports are so poo
real
Feel bad for fusion fans
Holy shit supports stay alive challenge
hello, I'm sending a message to this room to see if there are any e-sport teams recruiting? I play since the release of the game despite that I had not touched the game for a while I got back to it and found a fairly high level
HOW THE FUCK DID THEY NOT KILL LENGSA THERER
This is gutting
Where is this "level"
that you are
I want to change my pickems so bad
EZHan too good
Beating up one of the worst support lines in the league and a ball otp off ball does not constitute as βgoodβ
MN3 sucks on Sombra too
seoul v valiant was closer than seoul v dragons
Watch more than one whiffed emp challenge
Memp
thats the only memp he got
Unironically
Christ man itβs one map
Sombra most definitely isn't MN3's best hero lol
I agree
Donβt see me hatefucking Kilo for 4 bad maps vs Fuel
Weird individual imo
They had to drop out after 4 members tested positive for covid
oh rip
I believe there only is A side and B side lol
There should also be College OW
no chance
I have seen two Fusion comms check videos
And that bastard
Is dead silent
In every team fight
Iβve seen corpses communicate better than him
i just watched the last one
he contributed to the comms a whopping 3 times
Holy shit my bad heβs top 5 now with this new information
good place for Philly to get the W
zest carie
Who won Seoul or dragons
Im crying inside
Is fleta playing again?
ofc
Diya having the game of his life along with 3 of his team mates being so much better than their counterparts is painful
HOLY SHIT
defence buff i guess
becky the killer ninja on the server
the fuk have they fed diya
All that pressure on mn3
π REVERSE SHEEP π
wat
@hot onyx mn3 is terrible lma
veteran fusion fans when they see new ones having a mental breakdown over fury getting sigma gapped by marve1
replace the bus not eddie hall
yo valiant what the fuck
It's going to happen
Diya has the map of his life and Marve1 gapping Fury hard
either Fusion goes to map 5 (costing their Map differential vs spark)
Just take βem out
or this is Valiant about to BM Fusion putting sasin onto zarya instead of Marve1
marvya
AIMGOD COMMITS NANO IN A 3V5??
GET THIS CHUMP IN OPEN DIVISION WHERE HE BELONGS
Who would win?
a. a multi-million dollar team
b. couple guys operating on whatever paperclips NoHill left behind
The answer may shock you
liz donβt act like this support line is worth more than fish scraps
That was a solid
3 seconds
Of being able to heal
Marve1 is a top 5 sig ever
Nothing to be ashamed about
wait there is a third match
It's day 2 today
i forgot
Usually it's just Day 1 matches that they play two
I know, the schedule at the start of the video doesn't help now
i was watching the sidemen football match
so how has the last match going
It's a good match
ok
Diya back on dps
I'm rewatching the val philly game after work
becky just fed
@willow drum it's not ego it's a fact in my region in France (Occitania) every year an overwatch competition is organized I have been winning it for 2 years (afterwards I must say the level is very bad)
for you to be good is to do nothing with your life and to rank all day
Shut up...
You're in the EU region
And you're a QP Warrior
Stop trying to go pro
Have you heard of the OW French mafia doe @elder fjord
In my country of Australia we have more OWL players per population make it than France
real
@hot onyx why i smn3
so bad
on sombra
why do you spread false information
just to fit
i don't
your narrative
he's fucking ass on sombra
he got widow diffed by diya
and is getting outpaced
by mf ezhan
considering
for you no French is good in esport?
He has to recall
no french is good in OWL that has played in EUC
Valiant supports will keep players alive when they should die
And Fusion support fail to keep players alive when they should lige
Has Aimgod hit a sleep dart this round?
ur coping
mn3 did not have
that clutch of an emp
this entire game
stop being biased for him
and admit he is c tier sombra
He has had some very clutch emps
Not my fault you have a hate boner for him just to spite me
then sure
it is not
a hate boner for mn3
i believe you overrate him
oh no
I believe he is top 6
dont tell me we are going to lose map 5 to sym
La Val just looks not as aggressive like they think if they dive the back line they die or get ult
He is interchangeable with Happy or Shy imo
They are just better trackscans
to your own opinions
and better hard hs*
i am acting like
He is doing as good of a job as he can
And deserves a better team
To support him
Instead of breaking his back
Lifting a bus
marve1 rein waow
gg
Lack of capitalisation
Lol
AMAZING
Shame really
NANO
Ez got two good picks at end
Nohill was the problem???
from Molly right there
Fr
no imo
ezhan sus af
This damage line physically cannot do more
4 fusion
Ignoring supports and tanks outside of colleseo
along with the occasional bellyass feed
Ah
Zest got desperate with his blade imo
so this is it? JQ nerfed and they play this tracer+sobra+monke setup?
So ZEST consistently carrying dogshit is not ROTY worthy in your eyes?
no
anybody getting roty over proper
is not worthy
Similar results
unless league gives him mvp and not roty
2nd 4th 3rd
and then zest roty is fine
4th 2nd 2nd
apac weaker region
With a worse team in almost every position
Roty probably be given to proper
Seoul Shanghai Hangzhou
I donβt think@he can earn mvp at the same tome@
Matchfixa is the valiant mvp imo
top 3 no apack team
Singular meta
real
Doesnβt count as overall
dallas would curbstomp shd
I agree wholeheartedly
Ch0r0ng rlly rejected yall LMAOO
Personally i disagree
I asked yiska
But you can be the NA andy all you want hellfire
He literally said Philly was the team that wanted him the most w Toronto
okay apack coper
Also u put toronto into asspac they top 3 any meta
8-11 π
mf negative
Lmao
Do you know if he declined their offer before or after Alarm passed?
Honestly i think that is unintelligent
Project ch0bappe
Couldβve chosen a team with MN3 ZEST and Alarm
Dragons literally won last season?
Next season we will have a core of heemessi ch0bappe de MuZye and Twilidonna
The league isn't ready
Preseason I think that counts as a good team
Ur acting as if zest was a big name pre season
What are yβall mvp and roty for this season?
Bigger than fucking Finale π
Mvp kevster roty proper
Finale was an emergency signing
Same
We nearly had yaki
Oh shit
And KDGs rep is like 50/50
Yaki probably picked nyxl because the coach
Either players love him or hate him
There were rumors he wanted to stay under the same coach
That's why i also don't cba as much with the toronto results
This is the first rebuild season where they actually collected a great core that has a future and didn't go for washed big names
They just need one banger tank and a banger fdps to be top tier
Wait Sado wasnβt washed up
@compact marlinI don't trust people with that pfp
whats pfp
He was still top 10 with a ASJ Lastro support line
what you said
mmmmm
Donβt forget their Canada phase either
canadian team with a canadian roster let's goooooooo
Lol
@tropic herald @cunning patrol

Yeah heβs the goat
only 1 mil
??
best player in the world heres 1 mil
Thatβs a lot in video games
Faker is different
π₯Έ
still confused why they "fixed" a "bug"
What are the best and worst casters?
Agreed
Bren is a based name because of the gun
But apart from that I donβt think I know them
Yeah I havenβt really paid attention until they moved to OW2
thats why
What made them good?
fundamentally I think bren and josh had the best chemistry and flow
they're also OGs in the community so most people are biased towards them
but brenshow probably has the second most memorable moments aside from uberx
Whatβs the most memorable moment?
everyone will say uberx best duo and I agree
I just need matt to keep it going as consistently as sideshow did
hmmmmm
in owl history it might be stage 1 playoffs and the profit tracer on volskaya
Tbh the only caster duo I can remember the name of is jaws and lemon/Nekkra lmao
I know another duo but donβt remember their names
which is actually doa and hex wow
throwback
jaws and nekkra
lemon and legday
Uberx
avrillios
well avrl is more apac
This is the duo I also remember lol
I remember jaws because I watch a lot of London
Which he did a lot of
Iβm very happy to be seeing actual varied comps
The JQ shit that happened was so boring
I canβt imagine how anyone was watching during GOATS
i think achilios and avrl are good as well
lemonkiwi and legday are also very good
They can be sorta cringey but theyβre fun
this is lemonkiwi's best quote
βLegday and I call ourselves the "Double L" casters who serve up L's to teams.β
Caster curse moment
I donβt mind it because they seem to enjoy casting together
Chat calls her mommy though
Which is the real cringe
HEADSHOT AFTER HEADSHOT AFTER HEADSHOT
Was not lip
That moment when thereβs not enough enemies to kill
it was on kings row and it was dragons was it not
It was Fleta
ah
Iβm starting to quite like Dynasty
hes not anymore, but tenz has more of an audience and following than yay, and at the time was far better
they minimum will come top 3
I mean they played a closer game vs ATL in MM
Than any of the apac teams did
So they prolly would have been top 3 that tournament had they beat ATL
And that was before iris
Seoul are a superteam lmfao
shut up imo
Heβs right
yes but tenZ isnt better than the devil rn
Which is what he said
no need for last parts
of his claim
his 1st 3 words were correct
no need for the rest of his claim
In this meta
How many times has justice been reverse swept
No
Shanghai will force dva
counting tday or not
Counting today
Come up with new material you are just tiring at this point
What should I say
Nothing and leave me alone:)
No
You have βvery friendlyβ in your bio
That jus gives me pedo vibes
real
Pokemonpat dm ReavealβοΈ
I wanna see em baddies youβve been pulling on discordπ―
Or get like 6th because of a mickey mouse playoff patch that makes ot op
Smurf is op and will adapt to an OT meta
He won't
Smurf could adapt well
and rein and can play ball well
Lol
what..?
when tenz was bought out from c9 he was better than yay lmao
and tenz DOES have a bigger following than yay
hence why he had a higher buyout
also it was cloud 9, they commonly set their buyout prices ridiculously high
It was also the part of Val esports where contracts were just way too large
yeah, same with league
he is not better than yay rn
i didnt say he was
they were comparing tenz's buyout from c9 to yays buyout
thats why i said the other points
who did htey try get this time
oh
yay
lmao
couldnt get ardiis either
lets go london
valiant colors on cass looks so cool tho
Lmao custa
roasted
wrong jersey color, custa idiot
Lol
That was the 2018 color tho
i know but still
i thought it will be closer
Underrated
How would it be closer? Lol
Basseddd
Lmao did they just photoshop kaan face?
if they do the reverse sweep that would be good
or if they just do the sweep or even the gentleman sweep
@sullen berry do i believe
Eh
you never know
Itβs Apac tru but they are still good
He only looks good because he plays really well with Firs and urf
true
They usually have a slow stage start
give me poko london please
But it was stil besides map 2 tight
that is what i am wishing for
Wdym
dragons are still warming up and not doing the best
a tough ask but you never know
They looked good just Seoul was better
And everyone other than Seoul and Shanghai are lower by 3 tiers
aspire looking good
sleeping on titans
GO TITANS!!!!!!! 
does she
wait actually why would you run dva on this map
the fuck
the bubble covers so much
and it's so easy to cleave
not like you can really do anything against a doom either
Skairipa is playing very well
feel like they should run ashe or soj over the sombra
doesn't really have a lot of angles to approach from
would rather just zone them off
c9
sombra's such a goofy fucking character
holy shit
I forgot how much I hate watching this character
no way
Thats
The c9
kann just took all the attention
it's been YEAAAAAAAAAAAAARS
we're getting closer holy crap
we're getting cloooose
returning to the actual definition of c9
london really had to do it to them
they are c9
thank god
No π
map-dependent
sombra's corny as fuck now but if you aren't finding good angles for your sombra zoning off the supports with the slow orb is still very valuable
glads actually swapped between the soj and the sombra
Polo




