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keen abyss
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jesus christ

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flora was big

lost thicket
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nyxl good game for stage dissapoints rest of season

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rest of stage

cunning patrol
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disagray

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thats a solid record

unkempt spade
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Who are the top 5 dps heroes in ow2?

cunning patrol
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sojourn genji tracer are top 3 ik that πŸ’―

limpid grail
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it's probably like

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sojourn genji tracer ashe sombra

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i feel like sombra will finally become a pubstomper character

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even though she's mechanically difficult her value seems kinda crazy to think about if you can even get decent emps on a team

buoyant jacinth
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Torb is up there

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Fr

tropic herald
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HELLO TORONTO FANS

limpid grail
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goodbye

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have a nice day

fathom igloo
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Lmao love how they all went quite after the reverse sweep

earnest leaf
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yaki once again showing why he is better

tropic herald
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Flora was Shao for one series

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Thoughts @cunning patrol ?

cunning patrol
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Agree

north relic
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Flora yaki best dps duo NA

full lichen
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Ngl, last stage NYXL started out with a reverse sweep

vagrant cargo
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We are exposing how bad finale is so he doesn't get picked up by other teams once we drop him

next mesa
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That's flawed logiv

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U should keep finale being shit a secret

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So that when u drop him other teams will think he's still decent but in reality he's dogshit bam bamboozled

vagrant cargo
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We are to nice for that

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An honest team

next mesa
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Fuckin canadians dude

limpid grail
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πŸ₯²

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finale really didn't play for an entire stage

lusty musk
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did junkerqueen brawl comp get nerfed?

forest token
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yes

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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in 2 weeks shu will have as many titles as viol2t

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that is so awesome

keen abyss
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that's my top 3 na team!!! we got rolled by the 3-15 team

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in a meta where our best players got to play their comfort picks !

tiny pollen
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U can't compare shus accolades to violets

keen abyss
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you're right

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shu is playing at a time where the competition is at its highest

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and the players are at their best

tiny pollen
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Nah bro you're just baiting

keen abyss
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viol2t won his titles at a time where most teams in the league were shit

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viol2t sadly fell off after 2020 grand finals

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he is maybe B+ A- tier rn

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instead of the undisputable best support player in the world

vagrant cargo
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Ur acting as if that's not the case for nyxl too?

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Lmfao

keen abyss
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i forgot is ch0r0ng's comfort pick lucio or brig

vagrant cargo
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He's elite on both

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Had a rough game vs Atlanta tho

keen abyss
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he got to play both

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twilight's best hero is hard meta

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ch0r0ng's best heroes are very strong

vagrant cargo
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That's crazy glads got to play kevster on genji skewed on brig asteo on Lucio and happy on any hard hs

keen abyss
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muze and hotba get to play their comfort picks

vagrant cargo
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And still lost to us

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It's almost as if

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When ur team has one absolute dogshit player

keen abyss
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heesu got to play his sombra

vagrant cargo
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That it drags the whole team down

keen abyss
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didnt they lose

vagrant cargo
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Crazy to think abt no?

keen abyss
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with although in

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and muze

vagrant cargo
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Altough isn't a good tracer either

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He fed his brains out

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Also Flora had his best game of the season tbh

limpid grail
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flora literally first picked

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every fight

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it wasn't even funny

vagrant cargo
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This was a strong performance from nyxl

limpid grail
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now I see why jel rides sojourn so much

keen abyss
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to a team that has lost to the paris eternal

limpid grail
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eyy

vagrant cargo
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Completely different teams tho

limpid grail
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Paris got the wub difference though

vagrant cargo
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Like ur ignoring the artist pickup

keen abyss
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current paris is better

vagrant cargo
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Kukis departure

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Mental reset

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Etc

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Lol

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And I'm not even saying glads losing to Toronto is worse than us losing to nyxl

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Like it's not my point

keen abyss
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toronto below average team sadly

vagrant cargo
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My point is that comfort heros do not matter as much because when one of ur teammates isn't even tier 1 level then it's whatever

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Pay attention to finale and how hard he ints

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Finale might genuinely be the worst dps in na outside of the Paris fdps

vagrant cargo
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10 10 record 0 map w/l ratio

keen abyss
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above average teams do not lose to the new york excelsior

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in non fraudulent metas

vagrant cargo
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This cope is crazy

keen abyss
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so is blaming all the fault on finale

vagrant cargo
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It's not

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Its literally what happens dawg

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Rewatch the games

keen abyss
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understandable one of the strongest forms of cope

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is finding one player to scapegoat

vagrant cargo
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It's not cope when it's true

tiny pollen
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Toronto losing these while having players on 400k contracts

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πŸ’€πŸ’€

vagrant cargo
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They don't have a single player on a 400k contract

tiny pollen
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4*100k

vagrant cargo
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Yall gotta stop eating up every reddit narrative fr

tiny pollen
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Chorong

vagrant cargo
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Ch0r0ng is on 300k max

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According to yiska

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Which is understandable because he had around 10+ offers lmfao

keen abyss
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if florida can win with anamo in

vagrant cargo
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The only one that is overpaid is hotba

keen abyss
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then toronto should be able to win

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with finale

limpid grail
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for good reason

keen abyss
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against a bottom 3 team in the league

limpid grail
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goatba

vagrant cargo
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And his contract isn't that high either

vagrant cargo
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If Flora keeps his form up

keen abyss
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then they will be bottom 6

vagrant cargo
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Nah

keen abyss
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(above vancouver and toronto as well)

vagrant cargo
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Don't think so

tiny pollen
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Botba zarya carries toronto

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Dva is just an ass character

vagrant cargo
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Borba zarya is pretty good yeah but would be better if he doesn't have to waste every second bubble to save finale

tiny pollen
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Agree

vagrant cargo
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The player i feel the most for is heesu tho lmao

tiny pollen
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Do not talk smoke about botba

vagrant cargo
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His sombra is actually class if u pay attention to it

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He's almost always in a great position farm's emp fast has good emps and great hacks every fight

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Sombra is just not impactful without a good team

keen abyss
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tbh if edison can win a grand finals i dont see why toronto can lose to nyxl

vagrant cargo
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Imagine going 2-4 with kevster on genji the best brig and the best Lucio and happy in joats

keen abyss
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2-2 with happy

vagrant cargo
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And then having an ego over a team that has to either start finale or altough 😭😭😭

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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0-2 with a C tier hitscan against 2 of the best teams in the league

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instead of having a C tier fdps against a bottom 3 team

vagrant cargo
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Blud called Houston one of the best teams in the league

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πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

keen abyss
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at the time

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houston was good

vagrant cargo
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They literally lost

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To nyxl

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The game before that

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U guys could not beat the team that lost to nyxl 24 hours before the game

keen abyss
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was it lep or doge

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who was on immense ping

vagrant cargo
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When nyxl was even worse than now

keen abyss
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against nyxl

vagrant cargo
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Both were

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Better

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Than glads

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The ping excuse is bs because h01 arrived yesterday

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So he had a handicap too

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And we also demolished Houston 3-0

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By that logic we are a still a top team in this meta because losing to NXYL in week 1 doesn't mean anything on a map 5

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Also I thought scapegoating one player is just pure cope? What happened to that..

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Toronto are probably going to be 2-4 at best 3-3 this stage

keen abyss
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i still think facing against the 4 best teams at the meta when you are going through a period of trying to figure things out

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and losing

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is less embarassing than losing to nyxl

vagrant cargo
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Houston was not one of the 4 best teams at the meta

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In that week

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They sucked donkey doodoo

keen abyss
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glads played joats better than toronto

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by the end of the qualifiers

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as shown in the atlanta match

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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sadly toronto lost to the shitter team london (twice)

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like the definition

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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of mid teams

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you know that deep down

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if toronto had won against london 3-1 in qualifiers

vagrant cargo
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I couldn't care less dawg

keen abyss
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grand finals would be dallas 4-2 glads

vagrant cargo
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This is a rebuild season for Toronto

keen abyss
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and toronto would have come in 5th or 4th or smth

vagrant cargo
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I'm happy w a place 3 finish

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That's higher than I predicted them before the season

keen abyss
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(when every other team in the tourney besides dallas and shock is shit)

earnest leaf
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toronto are one big dick dps and tank from being contenders imo

vagrant cargo
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Their rep has improved massively which means we can get the dps players we want next off season

keen abyss
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actually how does atlanta

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not qualify

keen abyss
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how did they go 2-4

vagrant cargo
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They got bodied by Toronto

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Threw against Boston week 1

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And Nero was also dogshit

keen abyss
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they lost against boston 😭

vagrant cargo
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And they choked vs Houston

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Also I think saying Toronto are below average this meta is fair

keen abyss
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boston is the anti gatekeep team

vagrant cargo
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Finale is dragging us down like crazy

keen abyss
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they beat the gatekeepers then go back to being a bottom team

vagrant cargo
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If we go 3-3 I'll be rlly happy

keen abyss
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they didn't win a single fight on sanctum 😭

vagrant cargo
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Who

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Toronto?

keen abyss
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yea

vagrant cargo
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Ik

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I watched the maps we lost when I woke up

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That's why I know I can blame finale lol

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He takes up a lot of our resources

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And doesn't generate any positives w it

keen abyss
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how does muze although heesu ch0r0ng twilight

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lose to 3-15

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i do not understand

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like

vagrant cargo
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Altough fed

keen abyss
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it can't just be tracer

vagrant cargo
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And nyxl also look rlly good

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They genuinly played great on that map

keen abyss
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that they will inevitably lose to

vagrant cargo
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I also think twilight and ch0r0ng in particular had a very rough game

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
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oh

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nvm free win

vagrant cargo
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So we bound to be 0-3

keen abyss
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for nyxl

vagrant cargo
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OH

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U mean NY

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Wait lemme check

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Atlanta justice Gladiators London Boston

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Either NY go 1-5 again or they somehow pull off a miracle run

keen abyss
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they will lose to atlanta justice gladiators and boston

vagrant cargo
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I can see them beat anyone there besides glads lol

keen abyss
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i do not see them losing to atlanta

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as long as they don't throw like they did against toronto

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but it's atlanta

vagrant cargo
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Atlanta also went to map 5 w Toronto

keen abyss
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so that possibility is on the table

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so i can see it happening

vagrant cargo
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I hope ratlanta loses

keen abyss
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just pray

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that they play nero

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and you will receive your vindication

vagrant cargo
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Atlanta play shock fuel this stage

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Justice mayhem

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And nyxl

keen abyss
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atlanta 6-0

vagrant cargo
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Looking like a 4-2 stage most likely

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Booo

keen abyss
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atlanta 5-1

vagrant cargo
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The saddest part is

keen abyss
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after they lose to nyxl

vagrant cargo
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Toronto nearly got decay

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Imagine if we had decay this meta

keen abyss
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2-4

vagrant cargo
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Heesu sombra decay tracer sounds goated

keen abyss
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actually decay free from sup7eme

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may be good

vagrant cargo
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Decay has been a very good tracer this szn

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Imo

gusty rampart
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Washington Justice will lose to the New York Excelsior

limpid grail
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they will not

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decarry

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🧘

fast tusk
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atl beat shock btw

deft wolf
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With the current line up they have with speedily, venom, hawk, vigilante, and uv, they could win against nyxl, mayhem, and the justice. Possibly beating shock depending on both teams’ records for this week

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so long as they dont switch the lineup, they should be fine since those players dominate when playing together

vagrant cargo
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i think they lose to dallas and shock

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maybe to nyxl

deft wolf
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bc toronto did give nyxl a good fight and it was verrry close

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you can say that for reign, but they could have swept the defiant if they were comfortable with speeidly+venom or if nero and kai stepped up on circuit royale

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so if reign show up with their speedily line-up, favor the reign

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if not, nyxl can actually catch the reign off guard

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again we will see

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plus nyxl do get wins from comfortable teams, then go back to being 😐

vagrant cargo
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id still favor atlanta over nyxl yeah

deft wolf
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yea

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ill have to rewatch the match cuz i think im remembering things wrong

keen abyss
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not happening

candid radish
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That was funny

sullen berry
uncut drum
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that sombra play from profit and fits onto lip is still so funny

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heavy ult fight

hot onyx
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THEY LOST

uncut drum
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playoff profit is out

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so if Seoul 3-0 dragons does that mean valiant is good?

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they might be able to put up a fight against the dragons

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oh god that was so easy

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wtf

ember gull
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watches.........

uncut drum
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that was soooo fucking quick

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​It was closer against the valiant

idle beacon
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wtf is going on with SHD again?

uncut drum
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no clue

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profit balde

idle beacon
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i don't want to believe that they were dominating just because of junkerqueen?

uncut drum
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oof

idle beacon
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and what about shd's other tank?

ember gull
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No way

candid radish
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Oh dragons

uncut drum
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valiant better now

sullen berry
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Dragons washed /s

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no consequences, this wasn't a surprise

keen abyss
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yeah so like

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about that ...

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as prior stated

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i preach the truth

sullen berry
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POV you are shu

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ez 3-0 coming

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piggy's debut in the East Division

uncut drum
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i want to see this

idle beacon
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wow, what a disappointment by SHD

sullen berry
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VALIANT BETTER THAN SHANGHAI OMEGALUL

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Take the wheel, piggy

uncut drum
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piggy lets go

hot onyx
sullen berry
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I'm hoping for the piggy to pay off

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the spirit of chengdu flows through the charge

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Jimmy Ducks

keen abyss
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so is piggy like

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zarya specialist

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while cr0ng plays everything else or smth

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or is piggy a straight up replacement

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this will be interesting

uncut drum
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lets go piggy

keen abyss
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if apr1ta was in over choi there would be 9 2021-22 chengdu players in the lobby

uncut drum
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did i see a nano lucio

last nimbus
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idk what mmonk nanoed

uncut drum
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sorry wtf just happened

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4mins time bank

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wtffffffffffffffffffffff

tiny pollen
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Charge kinda suck

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So does piggy

sullen berry
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menawhile

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whiffed pulse from choisehwan

candid radish
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Kenobi did see the result of whiffed pulse

sullen berry
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Hunters were off the point

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POV you are farway begging to sweep chengdu with piggy and choi's reaper

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alright who turned off gif embed in this channel and only here

willow drum
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hunters moment

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imo

sullen berry
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how do you out-chengdu the chengdu hunters?

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by putting their former players onto the roster

north relic
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leave tried so hard

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he did so much

sullen berry
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Piggy PogFish

willow drum
sullen berry
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he soley carried out that Defense with a capital D

mental vine
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guys what predictions you have for uprising vs mayhem for owl tokens LOL?

willow drum
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mayhem will win

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3-1

mental vine
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do you have to make the predictions match with the actual scoreboard to get tokens or just make it close enough?

willow drum
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perfect i assume

sullen berry
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AFrog A C C E L E R A N D O gorfa we got 3-2'd

uncut drum
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most thought it was going to be 3-0 or 3-1

sullen berry
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that makes valiant one step closer into the play-ins

uncut drum
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which we want to see

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right?

sullen berry
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Valiant is now a top 3 team

uncut drum
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bruh

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top 5 at least for charge

sullen berry
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there goes the surprise element of Piggy's hero pool

tiny pollen
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Charge top 3

hot onyx
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Aw yes never thought I’d be glad to see Bellyass

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Please don’t force rush

last nimbus
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can't wait for belosrea to jump onto the highway with nano primal

hot onyx
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MN3???

willow drum
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he is so bad

hot onyx
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Where is the support for bellyass??

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Holy support gap batman

last nimbus
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omg rein rush

willow drum
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belosrea rein

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πŸ’€

hot onyx
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Dear god he’s doing it again

willow drum
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mn3 playing respawn

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simuklator

mortal abyss
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supports are so poo

willow drum
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real

candid radish
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Feel bad for fusion fans

hot onyx
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Holy shit supports stay alive challenge

elder fjord
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hello, I'm sending a message to this room to see if there are any e-sport teams recruiting? I play since the release of the game despite that I had not touched the game for a while I got back to it and found a fairly high level

mortal abyss
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HOW THE FUCK DID THEY NOT KILL LENGSA THERER

willow drum
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@hot onyx LMAOOOO

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KILL LENGSA

hot onyx
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This is gutting

willow drum
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that you are

sullen berry
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I want to change my pickems so bad

full lichen
hot onyx
# full lichen EZHan too good

Beating up one of the worst support lines in the league and a ball otp off ball does not constitute as β€œgood”

last nimbus
hot onyx
full lichen
willow drum
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thats the only memp he got

hot onyx
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Unironically

willow drum
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he is so bad

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on sombra

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play zest sombra capre tracer

hot onyx
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Christ man it’s one map

full lichen
full lichen
hot onyx
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Don’t see me hatefucking Kilo for 4 bad maps vs Fuel

last nimbus
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what does ff mean

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forfeit?

hot onyx
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Weird individual imo

hot onyx
last nimbus
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oh rip

full lichen
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Damn

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Unironically, Valiant 3-0 Philly

last nimbus
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is this the only contenders were gonna get for the season

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a side and b side

full lichen
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I believe there only is A side and B side lol

full lichen
hot onyx
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Unironically

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FiXa is such a useless main support

last nimbus
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no chance

hot onyx
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I have seen two Fusion comms check videos

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And that bastard

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Is dead silent

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In every team fight

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I’ve seen corpses communicate better than him

last nimbus
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what language do hangzhou and charge comm in

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english?

hot onyx
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And he is playing the most communication required role in the game

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Good emp imo

last nimbus
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he contributed to the comms a whopping 3 times

hot onyx
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Holy shit my bad he’s top 5 now with this new information

sullen berry
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@hot onyx belosrea looking delicious to Lasagne

mortal abyss
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phew

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that was really well played

sullen berry
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good place for Philly to get the W

hot onyx
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Dps clutch!

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3-1 still on the mark

last nimbus
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omg zest

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give this man a raise

mortal abyss
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zest carie

hot onyx
static pond
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Who won Seoul or dragons

sullen berry
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Y es

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||Seoul obvs with a 3-0|| doesn't mean much tho

static pond
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Im crying inside

sullen berry
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one has time to catch up

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the other is Shanghai Dragons

static pond
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Is fleta playing again?

sullen berry
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ofc

hot onyx
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Diya having the game of his life along with 3 of his team mates being so much better than their counterparts is painful

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HOLY SHIT

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defence buff i guess

sullen berry
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becky the killer ninja on the server

mortal abyss
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the fuk have they fed diya

sullen berry
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herbalife

static pond
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All that pressure on mn3

sullen berry
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πŸ‘ REVERSE SHEEP πŸ‘

mortal abyss
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wat

willow drum
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@hot onyx mn3 is terrible lma

hot onyx
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veteran fusion fans when they see new ones having a mental breakdown over fury getting sigma gapped by marve1

hot onyx
willow drum
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😭

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lol

hot onyx
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yo valiant what the fuck

sullen berry
hot onyx
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Diya has the map of his life and Marve1 gapping Fury hard

sullen berry
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either Fusion goes to map 5 (costing their Map differential vs spark)

hot onyx
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Just take β€˜em out

sullen berry
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or this is Valiant about to BM Fusion putting sasin onto zarya instead of Marve1

hot onyx
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marvya

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AIMGOD COMMITS NANO IN A 3V5??

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GET THIS CHUMP IN OPEN DIVISION WHERE HE BELONGS

willow drum
hot onyx
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liz don’t act like this support line is worth more than fish scraps

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That was a solid

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3 seconds

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Of being able to heal

sullen berry
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πŸ“£ "your team has taken the lead!"
dies

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the push experience in a nutshell

next mesa
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Nothing to be ashamed about

uncut drum
sullen berry
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It's day 2 today

uncut drum
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i forgot

sullen berry
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Usually it's just Day 1 matches that they play two

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I know, the schedule at the start of the video doesn't help now

uncut drum
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i was watching the sidemen football match

uncut drum
sullen berry
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It's a good match

uncut drum
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ok

sullen berry
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Diya back on dps

uncut drum
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it is 2-2

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but is it reverse sweep

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not back and forth

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nm

fathom igloo
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I'm rewatching the val philly game after work

hot onyx
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Oh boy more MN3bra

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Time to prove doubters wrong

north relic
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becky just fed

elder fjord
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@willow drum it's not ego it's a fact in my region in France (Occitania) every year an overwatch competition is organized I have been winning it for 2 years (afterwards I must say the level is very bad)

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for you to be good is to do nothing with your life and to rank all day

willow drum
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Shut up...

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You're in the EU region

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And you're a QP Warrior

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Stop trying to go pro

sullen berry
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Have you heard of the OW French mafia doe @elder fjord

willow drum
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most good players that are of EU descent

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play in NAC

sullen berry
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In my country of Australia we have more OWL players per population make it than France

willow drum
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@hot onyx why i smn3

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so bad

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on sombra

hot onyx
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just to fit

willow drum
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i don't

hot onyx
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your narrative

willow drum
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he's fucking ass on sombra

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he got widow diffed by diya

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and is getting outpaced

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by mf ezhan

hot onyx
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considering

elder fjord
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for you no French is good in esport?

willow drum
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and neutral hacks

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are ass

hot onyx
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He has to recall

willow drum
hot onyx
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Everytime he goes below half hp

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Because his suppprts wont heal him

willow drum
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he also has way less pressure

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because zest is diffing becky

hot onyx
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Support gap is equally large

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2 > 1

willow drum
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not how it works

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but ok

hot onyx
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Valiant supports will keep players alive when they should die

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And Fusion support fail to keep players alive when they should lige

mortal abyss
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kill marve1 challenge

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(failed)

willow drum
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sombra diff rn

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woww

hot onyx
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Has Aimgod hit a sleep dart this round?

hot onyx
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Doesn’t matter to me

willow drum
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ur coping

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mn3 did not have

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that clutch of an emp

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this entire game

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stop being biased for him

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and admit he is c tier sombra

mortal abyss
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jesus

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this is way too close

hot onyx
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He has had some very clutch emps

willow drum
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okay

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if that makes you believe

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he is top 5 hs

hot onyx
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Not my fault you have a hate boner for him just to spite me

willow drum
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then sure

willow drum
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a hate boner for mn3

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i believe you overrate him

mortal abyss
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oh no

hot onyx
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I believe he is top 6

willow drum
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okay

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that is a fine take

mortal abyss
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dont tell me we are going to lose map 5 to sym

willow drum
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at least it is not

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top 5

static pond
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La Val just looks not as aggressive like they think if they dive the back line they die or get ult

hot onyx
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He is interchangeable with Happy or Shy imo

willow drum
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that is why i believe

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you are overrating him

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but you are entitled

hot onyx
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They are just better trackscans

willow drum
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to your own opinions

willow drum
hot onyx
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I’m not saying he is lip level

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On sombra

willow drum
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nobody is

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LOL

hot onyx
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Exactly

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You are acting kike i am

willow drum
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i am acting like

hot onyx
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He is doing as good of a job as he can

willow drum
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u believe he is over B tier

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on sombra

hot onyx
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With a bottom 3 support line

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I believe he is solid high b

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Compared to other dogshit

willow drum
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maybe solid high C

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is correct

hot onyx
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And deserves a better team

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To support him

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Instead of breaking his back

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Lifting a bus

willow drum
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marve1 rein waow

hot onyx
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Alongside one team mate

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Ok Valiant are just being quirky

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Clutch emp though

mortal abyss
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gg

north relic
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fusion are ass

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how can you lose to valiant without nohill

hot onyx
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Lack of capitalisation

mortal cipher
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Lol

limpid grail
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AMAZING

hot onyx
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Shame really

limpid grail
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NANO

static pond
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Ez got two good picks at end

mortal cipher
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Nohill was the problem???

limpid grail
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from Molly right there

sullen berry
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LMAOOOO

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OUR PICKEMS WERE DESTROYED TONIGHT

mortal cipher
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Fr

sullen berry
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GET YOUR VALIANT STONKS

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COME AND GET YOUR VAL STONKS

willow drum
idle beacon
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ezhan sus af

willow drum
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mn3 was the problem

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and support

hot onyx
#

This damage line physically cannot do more

willow drum
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4 fusion

hot onyx
willow drum
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along with the occasional bellyass feed

mortal cipher
static pond
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Zest got desperate with his blade imo

idle beacon
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so this is it? JQ nerfed and they play this tracer+sobra+monke setup?

hot onyx
willow drum
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anybody getting roty over proper

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is not worthy

hot onyx
#

Similar results

willow drum
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unless league gives him mvp and not roty

hot onyx
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2nd 4th 3rd

willow drum
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and then zest roty is fine

hot onyx
#

4th 2nd 2nd

willow drum
hot onyx
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With a worse team in almost every position

static pond
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Roty probably be given to proper

hot onyx
willow drum
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apac weaker region

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mm results say it all

static pond
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I don’t think@he can earn mvp at the same tome@

vagrant cargo
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Matchfixa is the valiant mvp imo

willow drum
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top 3 no apack team

hot onyx
willow drum
hot onyx
#

Doesn’t count as overall

willow drum
hot onyx
willow drum
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and glads easily beats seoul

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dallas also beats seoul

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in mm

vagrant cargo
static pond
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Dragons already 3-0 Dallas

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Lol

hot onyx
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Personally i disagree

vagrant cargo
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I asked yiska

hot onyx
#

But you can be the NA andy all you want hellfire

vagrant cargo
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He literally said Philly was the team that wanted him the most w Toronto

willow drum
vagrant cargo
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Also u put toronto into asspac they top 3 any meta

willow drum
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ur region is worse than NA

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and fusion reg season w/l?

vagrant cargo
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8-11 😭

willow drum
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mf negative

static pond
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Lmao

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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Idek

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But I assume before

hot onyx
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Honestly i think that is unintelligent

vagrant cargo
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It is not lol

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Toronto are also spending money and taking it serious

willow drum
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it is not lol

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he chose to join

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the stronger region

vagrant cargo
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Project ch0bappe

hot onyx
#

Exactly

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Unintelligent

willow drum
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it is not

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he wants to get better

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by playing against good teams

hot onyx
#

Could’ve chosen a team with MN3 ZEST and Alarm

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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Next season we will have a core of heemessi ch0bappe de MuZye and Twilidonna

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The league isn't ready

hot onyx
#

Preseason I think that counts as a good team

vagrant cargo
static pond
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What are y’all mvp and roty for this season?

willow drum
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imo

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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Mvp kevster roty proper

vagrant cargo
static pond
vagrant cargo
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We nearly had yaki

hot onyx
#

Oh shit

vagrant cargo
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Yeah

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But torontos rep is terrible lmao

hot onyx
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That is new information

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Thanks for informing me

vagrant cargo
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And KDGs rep is like 50/50

static pond
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Yaki probably picked nyxl because the coach

vagrant cargo
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Either players love him or hate him

static pond
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There were rumors he wanted to stay under the same coach

vagrant cargo
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This is the first rebuild season where they actually collected a great core that has a future and didn't go for washed big names

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They just need one banger tank and a banger fdps to be top tier

hot onyx
#

Wait Sado wasn’t washed up

sullen berry
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@compact marlinI don't trust people with that pfp

compact marlin
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whats pfp

hot onyx
#

He was still top 10 with a ASJ Lastro support line

idle beacon
compact marlin
#

mmmmm

worn falcon
#

based new yorker

vagrant cargo
#

Logix

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Na1st

balmy wolf
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Don’t forget their Canada phase either

limpid grail
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canadian team with a canadian roster let's goooooooo

mortal cipher
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Lol

devout path
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@tropic herald @cunning patrol

cunning patrol
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Yeah he’s the goat

devout path
#

??

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best player in the world heres 1 mil

cunning patrol
#

That’s a lot in video games

devout path
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not rlly

cunning patrol
#

Faker is different

devout path
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how much did tenz get

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so tell me how tenz is better than yay

tropic herald
devout path
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still confused why they "fixed" a "bug"

fiery hill
#

What are the best and worst casters?

devout path
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best is brenshow

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worst is everyone else

full lichen
fiery hill
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Bren is a based name because of the gun

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But apart from that I don’t think I know them

devout path
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you dont know sideshow and bren

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did you start watching this year

fiery hill
#

Yeah I haven’t really paid attention until they moved to OW2

devout path
#

thats why

fiery hill
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What made them good?

limpid grail
#

fundamentally I think bren and josh had the best chemistry and flow

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they're also OGs in the community so most people are biased towards them

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but brenshow probably has the second most memorable moments aside from uberx

fiery hill
#

What’s the most memorable moment?

limpid grail
#

everyone will say uberx best duo and I agree
I just need matt to keep it going as consistently as sideshow did

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hmmmmm
in owl history it might be stage 1 playoffs and the profit tracer on volskaya

fiery hill
#

Tbh the only caster duo I can remember the name of is jaws and lemon/Nekkra lmao
I know another duo but don’t remember their names

limpid grail
#

which is actually doa and hex wow

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throwback

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jaws and nekkra
lemon and legday

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Uberx
avrillios

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well avrl is more apac

fiery hill
#

I remember jaws because I watch a lot of London

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Which he did a lot of

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I’m very happy to be seeing actual varied comps

#

The JQ shit that happened was so boring
I can’t imagine how anyone was watching during GOATS

uncut drum
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lemonkiwi and legday are also very good

fiery hill
uncut drum
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β€œLegday and I call ourselves the "Double L" casters who serve up L's to teams.”

fiery hill
#

Caster curse moment

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I don’t mind it because they seem to enjoy casting together

#

Chat calls her mommy though

#

Which is the real cringe

tropic herald
uncut drum
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on kings row

tropic herald
#

Was not lip

uncut drum
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was it not

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or was it fleta

fiery hill
#

That moment when there’s not enough enemies to kill

uncut drum
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it was on kings row and it was dragons was it not

tropic herald
#

It was Fleta

uncut drum
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ah

fiery hill
#

I’m starting to quite like Dynasty

twin bloom
#

Iris is by far the best FS in apac

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Unless ot becokes hard meta

karmic charm
twin bloom
#

Seoul might

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Just win

uncut drum
twin bloom
#

I mean they played a closer game vs ATL in MM

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Than any of the apac teams did

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So they prolly would have been top 3 that tournament had they beat ATL

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And that was before iris

cunning patrol
#

Seoul are a superteam lmfao

cunning patrol
#

He’s right

willow drum
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yes but tenZ isnt better than the devil rn

cunning patrol
#

Which is what he said

willow drum
#

no need for last parts

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of his claim

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his 1st 3 words were correct

#

no need for the rest of his claim

next mesa
#

Seoul will win

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The season

tropic herald
#

Unfortunately Shanghai beat Seoul next time

cunning patrol
twilit oriole
cunning patrol
#

No

tropic herald
willow drum
twilit oriole
#

Counting today

willow drum
#

6

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after shock reverses sweeps

fathom igloo
willow drum
#

for the 4th time

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this sZN

twilit oriole
fathom igloo
#

Nothing and leave me alone:)

twilit oriole
#

You have β€œvery friendly” in your bio

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That jus gives me pedo vibes

buoyant jacinth
#

real

twilit oriole
#

Pokemonpat dm Reaveal⁉️

#

I wanna see em baddies you’ve been pulling on discordπŸ’―

twin bloom
earnest leaf
#

Smurf is op and will adapt to an OT meta

twin bloom
#

He won't

tropic herald
#

So far Smurf has played

#

Winston and junkerqueen well

fathom igloo
#

Smurf could adapt well

next mesa
#

Maybe a hard sig meta

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Will be disadvantageous

#

Or hog

hot onyx
next mesa
#

Lol

tropic herald
karmic charm
#

when tenz was bought out from c9 he was better than yay lmao

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and tenz DOES have a bigger following than yay

#

hence why he had a higher buyout

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also it was cloud 9, they commonly set their buyout prices ridiculously high

tropic herald
#

It was also the part of Val esports where contracts were just way too large

karmic charm
#

yeah, same with league

willow drum
karmic charm
#

i didnt say he was

willow drum
#

isnt that end of discussion

#

?

karmic charm
#

they were comparing tenz's buyout from c9 to yays buyout

#

thats why i said the other points

willow drum
#

ok

#

i did not backread

next mesa
#

BLEED is little bitch fr

#

Import all talent

karmic charm
#

oh

#

yay

#

lmao

#

couldnt get ardiis either

uncut drum
#

lets go london

frosty shell
#

this is gold

#

for this season

fast tusk
#

valiant colors on cass looks so cool tho

worthy lynx
#

Lmao custa

worn falcon
#

roasted

fast tusk
#

wrong jersey color, custa idiot

mortal cipher
#

Lol

mortal cipher
twin bloom
#

How is his stats

fast tusk
#

i know but still

twin bloom
#

That low

#

Lol

uncut drum
#

whattttttttt

#

i did not know that

twin bloom
#

Not shocked

#

Profit is hard overrated

#

And kevin

uncut drum
#

i thought it will be closer

twin bloom
#

Underrated

worn falcon
#

yeh, profit overrated

#

nope

static pond
#

How would it be closer? Lol

worn falcon
#

Close would be Proper Kevster

#

or Leave

worthy lynx
static pond
#

Lmao did they just photoshop kaan face?

worthy lynx
#

If justice get reverse swept again

#

I'll snap

uncut drum
#

or if they just do the sweep or even the gentleman sweep

wind girder
#

Hell yea

#

I support MY casters in shark costumes

#

We need this more often

mortal cipher
#

Tru

#

Who says you can’t dress up at work

uncut drum
#

@sullen berry do i believe

mortal cipher
#

Eh

uncut drum
#

you never know

mortal cipher
#

It’s Apac tru but they are still good

full lichen
mortal cipher
uncut drum
#

give me poko london please

mortal cipher
#

But it was stil besides map 2 tight

uncut drum
mortal cipher
uncut drum
#

a tough ask but you never know

mortal cipher
uncut drum
#

i know

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i wish

mortal cipher
#

And everyone other than Seoul and Shanghai are lower by 3 tiers

uncut drum
#

aspire looking good

limpid grail
#

sleeping on titans

tepid raft
#

GO TITANS!!!!!!! VancouverTitans

twin bloom
#

Aspire is such a good player

#

Stuck

#

On such a bad team

uncut drum
#

why no poko

#

dva works on this map

forest token
#

does she

#

wait actually why would you run dva on this map

#

the fuck

#

the bubble covers so much

#

and it's so easy to cleave

#

not like you can really do anything against a doom either

twin bloom
#

Skairipa is playing very well

forest token
#

feel like they should run ashe or soj over the sombra

#

doesn't really have a lot of angles to approach from

#

would rather just zone them off

uncut drum
#

c9

forest token
#

sombra's such a goofy fucking character

#

holy shit

#

I forgot how much I hate watching this character

uncut drum
#

no way

limpid grail
#

finally

#

an

twin bloom
#

Thats

limpid grail
#

actual

#

textbook

twin bloom
#

The c9

limpid grail
#

c

#

9

tepid raft
uncut drum
#

kann just took all the attention

limpid grail
#

it's been YEAAAAAAAAAAAAARS

twin bloom
#

Of c9s

#

Lmaoo

limpid grail
#

we're getting closer holy crap

#

we're getting cloooose

#

returning to the actual definition of c9

#

london really had to do it to them

#

they are c9

tropic herald
#

That c9

#

Was one of the worst

#

In a while

tepid raft
#

thank god

vagrant jacinth
#

No πŸ˜”

fast tusk
#

oooo titans are up a point, okay i see

#

dammit

tepid raft
#

would aspire soj work in this meta?

forest token
#

map-dependent

#

sombra's corny as fuck now but if you aren't finding good angles for your sombra zoning off the supports with the slow orb is still very valuable

#

glads actually swapped between the soj and the sombra

uncut drum
#

poko

#

he is here

mortal cipher
#

Polo