It possible
#esports-discussion
static pond
Apparently it takes a while tho
People saying it takes a long long time
To unlock it without the battle pass
mortal cipher
It said free unlock
balmy wolf
people with ow 1 get all the new heros free i think
candid radish
Wasn’t it level 20 in the battle pass
candid radish
Wouldn’t think so if you need all characters to play ranked
vagrant cargo
Londone are only better than them in 1v1s
Platstyle difference
Why is spark this high
candid radish
Yes the team in like 5th overall and higher than like 7 teams are worse than every team bar the defiant
plush grail
finally
static pond
fathom igloo
this is all old news
tulip tulip
Who else thinks Kiriko could replace lucio or brig in JOATS
uncut drum
Who else thinks Kiriko could replace lucio or brig in JOATS
nah
fluid fractal
Holy shit bro wrote my whole English essay dawg
uncut drum
Holy shit bro wrote my whole English essay dawg
i know all i did was make a joke
fluid fractal
i know all i did was make a joke
what did you even say
uncut drum
@fluid fractal read from here
i said we have glads shock and fuel
we are going to get a 3-3 quarter
then i said we might have been galds in SS early part
and then the essay came
fluid fractal
bro i have no clue tbh, used to be into owl in its first seasons when like spitfire won and jjonak won mvp then never really kept up with it
tulip tulip
Thats some hard glads copium
fluid fractal
i stopped watching when GOATS came around
fluid fractal
and then the essay came
bro thats like 400 words
willow drum
Who else thinks Kiriko could replace lucio or brig in JOATS
joats is dead
fluid fractal
dawg really went in
tulip tulip
i stopped watching when GOATS came around
GOATS was fun to play
It was just boring to watch
2-2-2 killed the game
fluid fractal
GOATS was fun to play
It was just boring to watch
yea, thats just when i stopped being interested in owl
uncut drum
If Kiriko is in playoffs
she might be
tulip tulip
Still 2-4 stage 🥱
fathom igloo
He doesn't believe in van making play ins
limpid grail
rip joats
people were so traumatized by goats that a meta lasting even one second longer than a stage is uncanny
although MM was pretty diverse 
sullen berry
Your not supposed to say that valiant lmao
valiant smm is now going to play martyr for their first map win, no more shots at play-ins anymore
not getting my hopes up that valiant can really top their relative success during midseason madness
jagged stone
I’m really hoping Kiriko is playable in Countdown Cup
next mesa
She won't
sullen berry
watch as someone leaks that teams have been playing too much nerf junkerqueen that playoff teams are busy practicing kiriko after launch
fathom igloo
Kiriko will be meta playoffs
lost thicket
JOATS with kiriko instead lmao
fathom igloo
Nah JQ won't be played
willow drum
JOATS with kiriko instead lmao
no
jq wont be played
shes not strong enough
and kiriko not brawl enough
cant really have any escape
in a close brawl comp
she will probably be a dive support
hot onyx
preseason or current?
hot onyx
oh I did not look at that
hot onyx
Fusion above Defiant is fucking dumb
hot onyx
and much better tanks
willow drum
ok warm take
hot onyx
I’m tired of pretending Hotba isn’t better than Fury
hot onyx
cold take
split flume
mt and ot are useless and outdated terms now
hot onyx
i agree and we should allow Fury to play winston against Smurf
willow drum
can categorize their own hero pool
hot onyx
That is a fair fight
split flume
i agree and we should allow Fury to play winston against Smurf
smartest spark fan
hot onyx
does not mean that both tank roles are one entity
your team looks to sign two tank players and they sign Piggy and Bernar
suddenly main tank and off tank is not so outdated with Pigston
buoyant jacinth
Piggy is the goat I don't blame them
buoyant jacinth
Real
keen abyss
Why is spark this high
I am a big spark coper
they’re like Philly but with a much better hs and better overall supporting roster
like they have a top 2 dps line they have to be good. right
surely they won’t get coach diffed
keen abyss
Still 2-4 stage 🥱
dnc glads gap any team in an open meta
top 1 dps line top 1 supp line top like 3-4 MT
keen abyss
Fusion above Defiant is fucking dumb
defiant has low peaks
tulip tulip
top 1 dps line top 1 supp line top like 3-4 MT
You really think they have top support line after their SS display
Stop the meatriding
keen abyss
defiant never beats a good team in an important match
Philly has the capability of doing that
unless it is the important match then they will fall
keen abyss
You really think they have top support line after their SS display
shu was never in
cedar oasis
I’m tired of pretending Hotba isn’t better than Fury
both are shit
tulip tulip
^
keen abyss
glads SS support line (2 players who’d never played together and had no innate synergy) was not good at first
esp since the best sup in the league was on the bench
keen abyss
we don’t know if glads had higher peaks in summer showdown that they didn’t get to hit because they got better at the meta too late
tulip tulip
Skewed played okay
keen abyss
they didn’t make tourney then flop when it mattered like defiant
vagrant cargo
like they have a top 2 dps line they have to be good. right
Blud said top 2 dps line I can't believe it
keen abyss
who is better than alphayi shy
vagrant cargo
defiant has low peaks
Defiant peaked higher than Philly this season Philly had a bumass bracket in stage 1
keen abyss
whoru lip in a genji meta sure
keen abyss
Defiant peaked higher than Philly this season Philly had a bumass bracket in sta...
2nd 4th 3rd vs whatever the fuck toronto didn’t do
vagrant cargo
who is better than alphayi shy
Happy Kevster LiP WhorU Fits Stalk3r Proper Kilo and Zest mn3
vagrant cargo
2nd 4th 3rd vs whatever the fuck toronto didn’t do
In an eight team region
keen abyss
proper kilo is not better just bc shy gaps kilo so hard
vagrant cargo
4th nearly didn't happen because of xzi mayhem
vagrant cargo
proper kilo is not better just bc shy gaps kilo so hard
He does not.lol
Shy was mid asf last stage
He has aim but horrid decision making
keen abyss
I don’t put a lot of weight on SS
vagrant cargo
Therefore he dies way to often and is not in good positions
keen abyss
bc we are not going into a stage similar to SS
vagrant cargo
Which is also evident in his stats btw
keen abyss
we are likely going into something similar to MM but sombra is good
vagrant cargo
Second in aim 13th in nearly every other stat on sojourn
The current meta allows Toronto to put MuZe on Winston Twilight on ana heesu on sombra altough on genji
If the scrimm rumors are true
While spark are still stuck w a C tier backline
Also if u don't consider last meta then the kilo shy gap is even closer because kilo has been very very good this season till the last few games
keen abyss
idk I still put a lot of weight on hangzhou taking peak Glads close
in a very similar meta
vs toronto being a flop team against any decent team besides one upset against glads in SS
a meta that we will be moving far away from
I take alphayi over stalk3r and shy and fits are similar but I take shy
zest > alphayi shy >> mn3 (I am a serial mn3 underrater)
keen abyss
Defiant peaked higher than Philly this season Philly had a bumass bracket in sta...
I can’t make sense of this when toronto went 2-6 in MM tourney against a weak shanghai and outlaws
whereas once again the only difference I think between current meta and MM meta is sombra
vagrant cargo
Shanghai barely won map 1 and 2
keen abyss
but I haven’t been rating people based on sombra so far bc of rework
vagrant cargo
idk I still put a lot of weight on hangzhou taking peak Glads close
Literally because shy had the performance of his live and glads threw on dorado
Also alphayi>stalk3r hell naw
keen abyss
toronto was 0-4 in tournament matches until SS btw
vagrant cargo
And shy>>mn3 when mn3 raw dogged everyone but lip last stage while shy didn't even make the tourney xd
vagrant cargo
toronto was 0-4 in tournament matches until SS btw
Also had kdg at the start and inner turmoil in stage 2
keen abyss
Also alphayi>stalk3r hell naw
stalk3r has the best supporting roster in his region
alphayi has a middling backline and slightly above average tank
vagrant cargo
he also has better mechanics and way better positioning and decision making than alphabraindeadyi
keen abyss
Also had kdg at the start and inner turmoil in stage 2
I will raise toronto when I see them perform outside of a Mickey Mouse meta
limpid grail
why everyone calling this a mickey mouse meta
keen abyss
their only relatively successful tournament was where there were 4 bad teams and outlaws
lost thicket
she will probably be a dive support
honestly feels like she's a good in all cases support
limpid grail
this gotta be the one meta where you CAN'T just kill everyone
unless you have ults
wait what was stage 1 meta
vagrant cargo
NA tourney would have raw dogged everyone in apac but Shanghai n Seoul
limpid grail
it feels way too long ago
vagrant cargo
And I think Toronto could have beaten Seoul tbh
keen abyss
💀
vagrant cargo
It's not a far stretch u degen
keen abyss
I put seoul over shock and shock wiped the ronto
vagrant cargo
Vindaim had the worst performances of his season so far in the tourney and twilight gaps profit brig so hard
Shock would body Seoul lol
Also they didn't wipe toronto
It was 3-1 with Toronto having good attacks
keen abyss
top 3 in a tourney where you only actual competition (Dallas shock) were leagues above you (almost dropped to mayhem btw) (lost to london btw)
not very impressive imo
vagrant cargo
Shock wasn't league's above us what is u smoking blud
And London were class in scrimms they just a hardcounter to our playstyle
Mayhem we only struggled at first because we didn't know how to adapt to double fs
In the meta mirror they got raw dogged
keen abyss
I am not buying toronto as a better than mid team until I see them perform outside of joats
vagrant cargo
top 3 in a tourney where you only actual competition (Dallas shock) were leagues...
What has any asspac team achieved besides getting fucjed by NA once they left their mickey mouse clubhouse region
keen abyss
and not randomly drop to bad teams
keen abyss
calling it a Mickey Mouse meta was a force of habit as a glads coper
but we are moving far away from it now
vagrant cargo
Ofc because ur team can't even make the tourney 😭😭
vagrant cargo
U don't even know what the meta is yet u make powerrankings
vagrant cargo
in a non linear meta
NON LINEAR LMFAOOOO
keen abyss
every fdps besides genji was shit
vagrant cargo
Tanks in scrimms are Winston dva supports are zen ana
keen abyss
ashe sojourn is the only variability
vagrant cargo
Dog
I'm talking abt the upcoming mega
Meta
Also toronto won't stay top 3 but deffo top 5 NA
They got a lot of confidence rn and fixed their internal problems
keen abyss
Ofc because ur team can't even make the tourney 😭😭
sadly at their lowest point of being a top 4 team at the meta they got put against the 3 best teams at the meta and an over performing houston back to back to back to back
before they improved
if you swap paris and any non Dallas team imo glads can qualify
but that may just be cope idk
keen abyss
never had the chance to prove themselves against good joats teams
keen abyss
yeah
vagrant cargo
But they woulda gotten 4th regardless 😹😹
keen abyss
glads beat the ronto in tourney
vagrant cargo
Nah
keen abyss
it’s ab whether they choke against shock
vagrant cargo
Not rlly
keen abyss
and lose to Dallas in finals
keen abyss
and looked much more disciplined doing so
vagrant cargo
Toronto has the better hitscan in that meta better backline
vagrant cargo
and looked much more disciplined doing so
It's almost as if
Hear me out
Bad teams that don't punish ur feeding tank make u look better
Crazy concept innit
keen abyss
the feeding tank
was not in
glads are not capable of losing to london
toronto is very capable of losing to london
I cannot rate toronto high
because they beat a non mid team once right before they improved
at the meta
vagrant cargo
Space still fed a shitton
vagrant cargo
Also calling Houston mid when Houston were considered third seed lock in by everyone before the tourney is funny
keen abyss
houston dropped to nyxl
cunning patrol
Toronto are #5 In NA this meta just as I predicted preseaosn 💯💯💯
Common W from me
vagrant cargo
aside from glads in SS
Atlanta in SS, Week 1 Houston on the back of a crazy Winston performance and they also had a upset on justice in stage 2
vagrant cargo
houston dropped to nyxl
Houston also bodied justice and titans
Ate mayhem alive in the tourney
And then got gigafucked by Toronto
Ur acting as if Toronto wasn't hindered by inner team conflicts after a few weeks of week 1 and during early stage 2
keen abyss
I can see Atlanta or houston underperforming so toronto 5th is likely
keen abyss
didn’t glads beat Atlanta much more steadily
in SS
almost as if they were the better team going into the last week before the tourney ?
vagrant cargo
They beat a Atlanta that was literally boomed
keen abyss
and just got fucked by having the hardest possible schedule at their weakest time
vagrant cargo
Also that logic is kinda flawed because justice beat london but got farmed by Houston while Houston then got gigafuckrd by Toronto
Like saying glads>Toronto or shock last meta is just pure cope
keen abyss
toronto has been extremely disappointing outside of joats this year
and their joats wins are very mild
cunning patrol
Fr
vagrant cargo
toronto has been extremely disappointing outside of joats this year
Again ignoring out of game factors
cunning patrol
Mickey ahhhh team…
keen abyss
Atlanta will be better than toronto if they qualify for playoffs
vagrant cargo
It's almost as if a team that has massive internal struggles and has to play finale on fdps is not going to perform that well early in a season...
vagrant cargo
Atlanta will be better than toronto if they qualify for playoffs
Yes because it's not like Toronto is better on every position but OT and FDPS and has better coaching
keen abyss
I will admit that is a possibility
cunning patrol
Now we sayin uv <midnight???
keen abyss
Yes because it's not like Toronto is better on every position but OT and FDPS an...
twilight =< UV
cunning patrol
I’m MAD now
keen abyss
and in double fs vigi >>> ch0r0ng
vagrant cargo
twilight =< UV
Nah UV will fall off after being benched
keen abyss
cope
worn falcon
twilight =< UV
lolno
vagrant cargo
and in double fs vigi >>> ch0r0ng
Only in double fs and ch0r0ng zens mechanics are good he just needs a brain
vagrant cargo
cope
-says the guy that thinks his 2-4 team that only beat fodder would be top 2 in the tourney
keen abyss
likely ana zen meta imo
keen abyss
they would
keen abyss
I wasn’t listening
buoyant jacinth
vagrant cargo
they would
0 evidence stay coping nerd
worn falcon
Philly?
buoyant jacinth
apack is such a bad region that a team like valiant is allowed to get wins
keen abyss
0 evidence stay coping nerd
you breathed a sigh of relief when your middling team dropped to london so there would only be 2 good teams in the tourney for toronto to get shit stomped by
dusky locust
You two have been arguing for an hour you are both nerds
vagrant cargo
London was demolishing glqds shock and even Dallas in scrimms
They ain't a bad team
vagrant cargo
You two have been arguing for an hour you are both nerds
I am not imo
Also who tf asks someone who's 6'1 if they can hoop
cunning patrol
apack is such a bad region that a team like valiant is allowed to get wins
Apac is top tier in my books
limpid grail
London is not a bad team idk why anyone would say that
cunning patrol
Lip would 1v5 dallass
cunning patrol
Also who tf asks someone who's 6'1 if they can hoop
Can you hoop??
limpid grail
i feel like london players actually feel themselves and coordinate extremely well
vagrant cargo
yes
limpid grail
sometimes they just drop the spaghetti though
like their rush last stage was actually interesting
because you can play rush into winston teams
cunning patrol
Londons players found undeserved confidence after spamming rush to beat bad teams in my books
I miss when backbone was getting flamed
vagrant cargo
Still better than RATLanta imo
buoyant jacinth
london is doing the same thing RATLanta did last year
vagrant cargo
Londone choked
cunning patrol
london is doing the same thing RATLanta did last year
I’ve said this so many times
In my books neither of them are real teams
keen abyss
london peaked in MM qualifiers and it’s all downhill from there
cunning patrol
Uv was worth it
keen abyss
Just for ojee to flop
still an upgrade from masaa
vagrant cargo
UV has been a pleasant surprise imo
cunning patrol
They have a top 3 back line in this meta in my books
keen abyss
if uvig have good synergy then yeah
vagrant cargo
UV has been a pleasant surprise imo
He's been one of the better EU FS fosho
vagrant cargo
So did UV..
cunning patrol
UV was playing in my books
vagrant cargo
Btw
Yiska thinks faith is top 5 in NA too and the most underrated support
That means he's coming to shock nxt season
cunning patrol
Yiska really been catching Ws 🤦🤦🤦
vagrant cargo
Fr
cunning patrol
I didn’t know he was like that 💯
vagrant cargo
Heemessi made him rethink his ways..
cunning patrol
Heemessi made him rethink his ways..
Heesu really is like that nowadays 🤦🤦
cloud latch
Yiska thinks faith is top 5 in NA too and the most underrated support
top 5 MS or support in general?
keen abyss
I would like to thank the esports discussion committee for voting me esports discussion member of the year
truly an honor
vagrant cargo
top 5 MS or support in general?
MS
keen abyss
saying faith is better than any of fastro ljg ch0r0ng xerneas vindaim and chiyo is criminal
cloud latch
saying faith is better than any of fastro ljg ch0r0ng xerneas vindaim and chiyo ...
top 5 na I believe
yiska said
last nimbus
saying faith is better than any of fastro ljg ch0r0ng xerneas vindaim and chiyo ...
kinda hard to perform on a terrible team
you cant really shine as main support if you dont have other decent players on your team
keen abyss
did he not receive offers from less terrible teams
earnest leaf
main support is the hardest role to properly rate
keen abyss
it’s a shame that there are no teams in na proven to be dominant on the winston ana zen comp
with a superstar Genji/tracer and players who are comfortable on sombra
with solid sojourns in their pocket
looks like it’s gonna be a toronto sweep
rise together or whatever idk
earnest leaf
sadly in that kind of meta dps are very impactful, so other teams would walk over toronto
keen abyss
real
very tragic that there are no teams who are proven to be leagues above the rest of the teams on double fs tracer sombra Winston/ball dive
forcing the second best team at double fs dive to mirror the sombra
even when sombra wasn’t the meta pick
earnest leaf
tbf in that meta shock and glads I think go 50/50 if they play 100 times
cloud latch
pretty map
vagrant cargo
saying faith is better than any of fastro ljg ch0r0ng xerneas vindaim and chiyo ...
In NA idiot
And he clears xerneas
jagged stone
Do we know if Kiriko and Esperanca will be in play for Countdown Cup quals?
earnest leaf
Nothing yet, but i'd personally lean on the side of no
actually for the qualifiers 100% no
play-ins and playofffs there's a small chance they do dumb shit and push a patch with her through
candid radish
I just saw your ping faze I ain't responding I'll get banned for abusive behaviour
limpid grail
ow2 devs try not to shake up the meta and create a mirror matchup owl scenario for a few weeks challenge (hard)
ow2 devs balance challenge (also hard)
cunning patrol
saying faith is better than any of fastro ljg ch0r0ng xerneas vindaim and chiyo ...
Ur a moron
proper vigil
I wanted to ask what comps is sojourn played in, in the owl
keen abyss
And he clears xerneas
only on lucio imo
twilit oriole
sadly in that kind of meta dps are very impactful, so other teams would walk ove...
Heesu would take care of both DPS
twilit oriole
play-ins and playofffs there's a small chance they do dumb shit and push a patch...
By the time of play ins and playoffs ow2 will be out
So they prolly do roll her out
earnest leaf
god that would be so fucking dumb
Brand new meta just for playoffs and teams have no prior experience on it besides scrims
devout path
I wanted to ask what comps is sojourn played in, in the owl
the places hanzo would be played
next mesa
Brand new meta just for playoffs and teams have no prior experience on it beside...
its time
profit fox girl
keen abyss
By the time of play ins and playoffs ow2 will be out
didn’t they say no more drastic meta shifts right before playoffs
after the roadhog incident
north relic
midtown dorado mix
tropic herald
limpid grail
the roadhog incident will always remind me
monkey business
barely sapient behavior
clown conundrum
cunning patrol
NO
twin bloom
Toronto are #5 In NA this meta just as I predicted preseaosn 💯💯💯
Its actually so funny
That you are using
The SS
Meta
To justify
That take
Lmaoo
Might as well justify titans being top 7
Or atl and glads being bottom 4
cunning patrol
Its actually so funny
"This meta" refers to the current meta owl teams are playing on
IMHO
twin bloom
"This meta" refers to the current meta owl teams are playing on
You could not have predicted
That
Imo
cunning patrol
I could have
twin bloom
-says the guy that thinks his 2-4 team that only beat fodder would be top 2 in t...
ATL were not a fodder team imo
twin bloom
london is doing the same thing RATLanta did last year
They played honest double shield comps and used wrecking wheel compositons to beat certain teams
Imo
buoyant jacinth
They played honest double shield comps and used wrecking wheel compositons to be...
Double shield is far from honest imo
cunning patrol
Double shield is far from honest imo
It’s the most honest comp this game has ever witnessed
twin bloom
Double shield is far from honest imo
It is a high skill comp
fathom igloo
ATL were not a fodder team imo
don't argue with that fool he's a little cry baby tor fan
twin bloom
don't argue with that fool he's a little cry baby tor fan
Disagree
He is a good faith person
To argue
With
fathom igloo
I just have him blocked cause he's a jerk
twin bloom
Disagree
cunning patrol
No need to be rude guys
limpid grail
double shield is honest
double shield double sniper is not
if we're defining honest as having to play the same game and effectively beat someone without cheesing a pick or circumventing what we know and love as the shield game while using the same resources then rush would also be honest
fathom igloo
No need to be rude guys
Tell that to nbt
limpid grail
I'm starting to warm up to goats 3 years later
because it embodies the spirit of overwatch of doing unorthodox things
but it manages to be so hypothetically and practically stupid no matter how you look at it that you wonder if they had eyes during that entire era
if releasing overtuned support characters was a contest they'd have to win it because there's no way they made the invincible brig and then proceeded to make something like pre patch immortality field
lost thicket
Kiriko should be unlocked at like 30/40 not 55
like 55 is 70% way, it should be 50% or lower imo
grindy but doable without too much time
static pond
Eh 90% of players will have her unlocked first day
static pond
She unlocked right away for returning ow players
tropic herald
you can play kiriko in every mode that isnt comp and unrated without unlocking her
she is also disabled for the first 2 weeks
of comp
twilit oriole
you can play kiriko in every mode that isnt comp and unrated without unlocking h...
Who?
static pond
you can play kiriko in every mode that isnt comp and unrated without unlocking h...
That like the smartest thing blizzard did
tropic herald
Who?
asked
haha
anyways sorry for not replying to the direct person i was answering
quartz anvil
i think they'll end up lowering when u unlock the heroes
tier 55 is way too much
i think 20 or 30 should be fine
cunning patrol
anyways sorry for not replying to the direct person i was answering
Don’t let it happen again little guy
twilit oriole
Don’t let it happen again little guy
You heard him.
tropic herald
wont do it again boss 
twilit oriole
wont do it again boss <a:absolutehomosexualperson:773293419384668220>
WONT HOP ON THIS DICK AGAIN RAHHHH
tropic herald
WONT HOP ON THIS DICK AGAIN RAHHHH
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
limpid grail
it's so weird
they said custom games and i'm like
okay bet I guess i'm not playing QP
every mode besides comp and QP and i'm assuming selectable arcade modes but she's locked behind free tier 55 is like they're trying to be obnoxious
twilit oriole
every mode besides comp and QP and i'm assuming selectable arcade modes but she'...
Who Tf cares
If you care grind it out
If you don’t buy it for 10$
tiny pollen
imma just buy the battle passes that have tnak heroes
static pond
worn falcon
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1570623635928367105?s=46&t=bUSUP9P4j1k...
what the fuck
static pond
Ngl I do not know who that is lol@
fast tusk
on the owl pickems some of the matches are lable blue as "token mathes" whats the difference between those and the regular matches ?
lost thicket
Doesn’t spark have two decent supports?
yeah but maybe teru and neko are just better on double fs
neko is ms or fs again I forgor
fathom igloo
Good to see teru again
lost thicket
bernar is starter, guxue is for mt, shy is starter, pineapple is back up, alphayi is starter, architect is backup/support, superrich/irony is ms and fs, neko plays ms and fs iirc and teru plays dps/fs so he plays backup to alphayi/architect while probably starting for double fs
lost thicket
bernar is starter, guxue is for mt, shy is starter, pineapple is back up, alphay...
2 members of sparks team can be both fs and fdps
lost thicket
neko been back but now back as a player GOAT
twin bloom
What
tiny pollen
vagrant cargo
ATL were not a fodder team imo
the narrative is important
vagrant cargo
<@256095554730196992> cut it out nbt
sorry papi..
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1570623635928367105?s=46&t=bUSUP9P4j1k...
Thank makes it his 4th team official, 3 teams as a player in OWL, two teams as coach
static pond
Oh ya I heard someone as a coach name of neko forgot about it lol
trim shadow
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1570626026601848833?s=46&t=bUSUP9P4j1k...
The hells going on here 
tepid ibex
neko is ms or fs again I forgor
He was a fs
tepid ibex
Ahh
vagrant cargo
He was quite mid tho iirc
tepid ibex
Teru also MS
vagrant cargo
I haven't rlly watched teru tbh
molten portal
do we know the meta?
limpid grail
haven't been following the scrimbux exchange as of late
I'm assuming we'll get monke madness double fs again but who knows
molten portal
double fs is always good
latent sable
bap buff
dva buff
maybe bap zen dva on certain maps
primarily eich dorado
sigma on circuit again probably
sojourn is still good
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1570623635928367105?s=46&t=bUSUP9P4j1k...
damn Spark really looked at Superich and said “fuck your dog ass” and promoted the coach
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1570626026601848833?s=46&t=bUSUP9P4j1k...
what the fuck
hot onyx
Doesn’t spark have two decent supports?
one decent another just bad
plush grail
one decent another just bad
hey
plush grail
fuck off
hot onyx
that’s not nice
hot onyx
I am doing very fine
plush grail
Don't care+ I'm stronger than u
hot onyx
plush grail
Liberal owner
hot onyx
english?
plush grail
Owned
lost thicket
Thank makes it his 4th team official, 3 teams as a player in OWL, two teams as c...
Boston 2018 was good, Toronto 2019 was bad, Charge 2020 was good but he was barely on the team lmao and Spark 2022 is good except for this meta
hot onyx
Spark 2022 is good except for their main tank and main support
Which conveniently has coaches that replace both of those roles with ease
lost thicket
02 was good, 4-2 in gf, pelican/proper/yakpung/kalios/neko/finn
lost thicket
Spark 2022 is good except for their main tank and main support
guxue was good just poorly used imo
plush grail
@hot onyxhe's like decay
''good''
but 0 wins to show for it
i still do very much believe that decay does not deserve owl
candid radish
CC isn’t going to be on launch patch is it
plush grail
CC isn’t going to be on launch patch is it
small chance
owl is already fucked in terms of profit
they might just say fuck it and use it to promote the new ow2 hero
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850>he's like decay
That is an exaggeration
plush grail
That is an exaggeration
kisssless virgin
hot onyx
I’m not disagreeing with you, Decay has just shown more top tier performances since 2019
Inconsistent self bencher that can’t win a title yes
plush grail
mechanics yes
but fucking masaa has a better mental
masaa is a mental warlord compared to decay
hot onyx
I mean Strikers mental is made out of sand and he’s considered the best tracer of all time
plush grail
yeah but shock was filled with weak mentals
but they just so happened to only win
also his shit mental is also one of the reasons why boston dropped him
last nimbus
has washington ever been in a finals
willow drum
no
hot onyx
also his shit mental is also one of the reasons why boston dropped him
oh yeah mr “breaking scrim setups because of poor performances”
cunning patrol
has washington ever been in a finals
Yes
ebon aurora
has washington ever been in a finals
closest they got was that Decay Zarya run in 2020
and then Fusion countered the comp
split flume
a butt
cloud latch
i still do very much believe that decay does not deserve owl
I mean I trust you you would know since your team is vegas eternal 😂
trim shadow
they might just say fuck it and use it to promote the new ow2 hero
Ow2’s future is basically doa
fathom igloo
closest they got was that Decay Zarya run in 2020
Idc what people say the rule was not just in place for the justice
Also that Meta was amazing
Cause no one knew how to beat it and we got sparkle zar
tropic herald
Twitter
tropic herald
MAJED SZN
limpid grail
MAJED DIFFED
uncut drum
https://twitter.com/sean_mmills/status/1570826768264863745?s=20&t=ZUSPJHTjOSuiQL...
you cant be serious
limpid grail
Overwatch League make good decisions challenge (hard)
vagrant jacinth
Holy shit lmao
tropic herald
@devout path @cunning patrol wake up EU is losing
uncut drum
<@405088084229619715> <@652901872692101126> wake up EU is losing
in what
cunning patrol
<@405088084229619715> <@652901872692101126> wake up EU is losing
Don’t jinx it 🤦
last nimbus
https://twitter.com/sean_mmills/status/1570826768264863745?s=20&t=ZUSPJHTjOSuiQL...
im feeling stupid to ask but my brain is fried rn, what is post season
is that just playoffs?
last nimbus
yeah cause playins innit
tropic herald
play ins also also over a month from now
last nimbus
i thought in 2 weeks
last nimbus
but countdown cup is playins right
tropic herald
week after is NA play ins
last nimbus
oh whuut
tropic herald
then there is two blank weeks on the schdule
playoffs is at some time somewhere in late october or early november
tiny pollen
they better be somewhere in the us
tropic herald
they better be somewhere in the us
last nimbus
october 21st start the playins
cunning patrol
@tropic herald u jinxed it
tropic herald
not my fault that eu are cringe comping
candid radish
they better be somewhere in the us
Happening in California, just not your California
earnest leaf
Devs trying to make some mickey mouse playoffs
can't wait for some mid ass team to randomly have an S tier kiriko player and pound
Or she's shit and is barely played
candid radish
can't wait for some mid ass team to randomly have an S tier kiriko player and po...
Toronto with junker queen
tropic herald
@cunning patrol doubter? @devout path
cunning patrol
<@652901872692101126> doubter? <@405088084229619715>
Had to undo ur jinx
Gg
Ur useless
#emeapack
SMOKING that shit
@devout path 
tropic herald
Had to undo ur jinx
i am pointing out that ange1 does nothing mechanically for fpx bc he just fucking ints and people are saying he is still good
cunning patrol
What
tropic herald
i am calling ange1 shit
cunning patrol
Ok
Igls almost always suck
At aiming
Drx are good now cuz they don’t have zest solo igling
tropic herald
ok i dont think that should excuse some of the horrendous plays
that the guy makes
tropic herald
it is funny
its like fpx just have a lil brother
or something
just running around
cunning patrol
He dropped like 10 kills that match
I think
Can’t wait to make fun of him on twitter
willow drum
pujan clears
even though he is 5'4
and less than 120 lbs
@cunning patrol scores for today?
i heard that loud won
cunning patrol
They did but eu lost
trim shadow
Or she's shit and is barely played
Probably the later
Looks like the only thing that will make her remotely viable is her wall climb and wall teleport
willow drum
she will not be shit lmao
trim shadow
https://twitter.com/sean_mmills/status/1570826768264863745?s=20&t=ZUSPJHTjOSuiQL...
Damn i already have a low opinion of ow devs and owl as a whole but this is just beyond stupid
willow drum
any character
who has what tracer can do
but can also heal
provide util/point rush with ult
and immortality
will not be broken
and can be a mercy pocket
trim shadow
Blizzard really never learns huh?
trim shadow
And what makes it even better
Shes locked behind a bp
At tier 55 where ppl who buy premium get her instantly
And those who didnt have to grind hardcore for 2 weeks
Its like we didnt learn shout/heal/move speed Cauterize completely devastates any character with shit move speed
cloud latch
I just remember seeing that one clip of fran with an ow dev and I think he was below 500 sr lol
trim shadow
And theese guys are tasked with professional intergrity
limpid grail
me when there's a tracer in my backline and suddenly Lucio ball kiriko and sombra are there
north relic
none of their devs
im above
gold?
i designed kiriko
so i can climb
also tp is really balanced
i tested out the ranges
you can tp anywhere on a point if you are at a certain place but its meant to be like that
buoyant jacinth
none of their devs
None of their devs play the game
willow drum
arent you silver?
plat
cedar oasis
you are boosted
willow drum
you are a middle aged man
willow drum
who is an alcoholic
willow drum
and works at a minimum wage job
cedar oasis
you child
cedar oasis
its not my fault my countys econamy is crashing
?
i am not over 35 you little shit
willow drum
💀
buoyant jacinth
Wow uvalo sounding like a loser...
cedar oasis
noe evidence?
willow drum
Wow uvalo sounding like a loser...
he is making fun of me
for being average at the game
cedar oasis
i forgot you are merican
willow drum
and focusing more on schoolwork
cedar oasis
is gold average?
willow drum
and bitches
willow drum
is gold average?
plat is
willow drum
i am not
that goblin
lmao
@buoyant jacinth he is a very special case imo
uvalo goes on discord
and harassses teenagers
cedar oasis
real
willow drum
and is calling me 11
cedar oasis
you are 11 tho
cedar oasis
stop trying to gaslight me you guys talk all type of shit about me
also you lick cakes of a floor
cedar oasis
you still lost multiple 1v1s to mystary
cedar oasis
who is bronze btw
willow drum
who is bronze btw
you are a drunkard
buoyant jacinth
and harassses teenagers
Wow this is very interesting
willow drum
who makes 11 an hour
and uses all of them
on crystal meth
and beer
odd imo
that you are talking
cedar oasis
?
willow drum
Wow this is very interesting
he is not a good role model
buoyant jacinth
Alcoholics don't deserve rights imo
willow drum
for people
cedar oasis
i have goten drunk once when the queen died
willow drum
Alcoholics don't deserve rights imo
you should have heard
cedar oasis
i have never done meth
cedar oasis
you fucking liar
willow drum
he was calling me anna
buoyant jacinth
Was he celebrating
willow drum
probably his
cedar oasis
?
cedar oasis
hellfire your shit attempt at gaslighting me wont work
willow drum
it sounds like
cedar oasis
anna?
buoyant jacinth
It clearly is working from what I'm seeing here
willow drum
you have already gaslight yourself
willow drum
It clearly is working from what I'm seeing here
i am only telling the truth
cedar oasis
stop changing the subject
willow drum
mr catjam
buoyant jacinth
Skill issue
willow drum
a low masters ms player
cedar oasis
i think you lost more sadly
willow drum
i think you lost more sadly
you make 11 an hour
and you're middle aged
with no women
or child
cedar oasis
both wrong
cedar oasis
my countrys econamy is crashing
willow drum
religously
cedar oasis
i am 22
willow drum
you are not 22
cedar oasis
you are not a teenager you are 11
willow drum
you are not a teenager you are 11
you are coping
cedar oasis
i am level 200 in ow
willow drum
my countrys econamy is crashing
skill issue
cedar oasis
you are a higher level then me
willow drum
i am level 200 in ow
you're lying
cedar oasis
?
willow drum
i saw your console account
cedar oasis
?
willow drum
your console account
cedar oasis
whats it called then
willow drum
was maxed border
buoyant jacinth
Wow he has a console account too
cedar oasis
lmao
buoyant jacinth
This ain't looking good for you buddy
cedar oasis
real
buoyant jacinth
I bet he's a support main too
willow drum
I bet he's a support main too
hs player
buoyant jacinth
Even worse
cedar oasis
?
willow drum
sad imo
cedar oasis
hellfire smoking some crack
buoyant jacinth
Wow he only knows how to roll dice...
willow drum
Wow he only knows how to roll dice...
very ironic
cedar oasis
i dont play hanzo you wierdo
willow drum
seeing how many dice roles
cedar oasis
im not levi
willow drum
he has lost in life
willow drum
hellfire smoking some crack
you would know a lot about smoking crack imo
drug addict
cedar oasis
where do you get the idea from that i do drugs
willow drum
you got very very drunk
when the queen died
and you were clearly high
when dallas lost to fusion
and you were in a call with me
moaning and shit
about how good fixa was
willow drum
scandalous!
cedar oasis
o shit i remember that it was when i fucked your mother and you said you like to lick the floor
buoyant jacinth
Nobody's believing that fake story
willow drum
Nobody's believing that fake story
he is being schizoprehnic
he couldn't afford his meds this month
cedar oasis
where did all the fun people go
cedar oasis
now its just valorant wierdos
buoyant jacinth
They only show up when you leave
cedar oasis
sad
willow drum
according to this british person
@buoyant jacinth this person does not deserve regular
imo
willow drum
he is also black
he tells me stories
all the time
about how people dont sell him vapes
because of his skin color
buoyant jacinth
Wow he vapes
plush grail
Brandon is sans
cedar oasis
?
willow drum
my bad wrong british person
cedar oasis
brandon
willow drum
@plush grail what is uvalos nme again
cedar oasis
if my name was brandon i would change it ngl
plush grail
Tyrone
cedar oasis
hellfire you are racisty
buoyant jacinth
This is so racist I can't believe I am witnessing this
willow drum
?? how
cedar oasis
you have called me a monkey
willow drum
? when
cedar oasis
you racist
willow drum
we were literally playing overwatch
and i said nano monkey
(you were playing winston)
willow drum
@buoyant jacinth We should start a go fund me
cedar oasis
stop talking to jazzy
willow drum
for tyrone "uvalo" mcallough
willow drum
stop talking to jazzy
? what
cedar oasis
mcallough?
willow drum
mcallough?
your last name
willow drum
it is neither
buoyant jacinth
Jazzy is not here you schizo...
willow drum
Jazzy is not here you schizo...
the voices in his head
cedar oasis
its one of those valorant wierdos
buoyant jacinth
The voices are in your head again
buoyant jacinth
I have never touched valorant in my life
cedar oasis
thats racist
willow drum
that is your name
cedar oasis
i never said thats my name
buoyant jacinth
I can't believe this guy has dreams about me playing valorant
willow drum
is it not?
cedar oasis
you racist
willow drum
i asked
buoyant jacinth
This is honestly sad...
willow drum
ian