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andy miller asked the devs to buff dva so shock can one trick it
and gladiators will still win thats crazy
if it goes to a dva meta
that would mean probably tracer
which would probably mean some zen and brig and ana
which would mean shock vs glads is a 50/50
London spitfire CC starting line up of Shax, Sparkr, Poko, Backbone and Kaan
It’s gonna be scary
For someone
Probably us
You would play landon over backbone in double FS
Lol
Yeah i meant to say landon over backbone
Just thinking with zen
Backbone on Zen for sure
💀
nah kann
From Hanbin's stream:
"I'm just saying, Fearless is really good at Junkerqueen. It's just that we have different styles; I play more defensively, and we decided that was a better fit for our team. I'm pretty sure Fearless has a better Junkerqueen than Coluge, or most of the tanks in the League for that matter. (But you're better, right?) Not really, again, it's just a stylistic difference. He even gets more damage than me in our internal scrims. He was actually our ace in our sleeve. If I didn't do well, he was going to sub in."

can't wait for Fusion to sign Fearless after Fuel drop him for the Hanbin solo tank route
Nah
i am stuck with a FiXa Aimgod support line for the playoffs let me have some off season hopium
it would of been funny if hanbin fell off and fearless came in and dominated
Sorry got to put you down
No hope for Philly
i mean they have a big budget and smart individuals behind the scenes
surely this is the year Clestyn gets signed
? did you not watch any London games hadi looked good on JQ
No he didn't
Outperformed by someone and Hanbin
Looks on par/ slightly worse than Hotba
Way worse than Hawk
everyone got outperformed by Hanbin
Mf still thinks fusion is high budget
mf still supports vegas eternal
what indicates that Fusions budget is not high?
Everyone did this isn't a valid augment
???
who's your jq?
vestola
surely
fuck off
L
Minimum members. During off season a WHOMEGALUL support line. And the definition of mediocre tank line
I mean they probably were going to spend alot of money on alarm and are currently spending alot on fury, mn3, zest, and carpe
Lmao
League minimum is 6 and they have 7, and Aimgod is a veteran name known through OWL
Shit forgor about Crape
True
They did not spend money on aimgod
Lol
But they def did on fury
I mean if you look
If Zest or MN3 don't deadlift
The team is hot fucking garbage
Oh I know, I’m just stating that Aimgod is not a whomegalol
It's not about player skill lmao
fury is not mediocre
Its about how much they probably spent
He also hadn't been in OWL for years
He's worse you right
One year*
how fury is good
Fusion have a decent lineup
Fuck no lol
Fury?
Their lineup is MN3 ZEST and Belosrea if it’s a ball meta
MN3 is just a addy abuser enough to carry
Watch Fury games and you see that he is washed
He is washed as fuck
Granted he’s still top 10 only because other off tanks managed to suck more
I'm confused as to what you guys consider good
Gladiators are good (without Reiner on jq)
Gladiators are good
Dragons
The best team this year so far
Dragons aren't amazing
If Void isn't in they aren't winning
They consistently shit on Seoul
Only this stage
????
They are like 3-3 this year dawg
mf forgot about the other two stages
4-2 dragon
Seoul 3-0d them MM
For the year
3-2d them and went to finals
Which is a big accomplishment
Yeah Dragons better for one meta
Seoul overall better
Winning the finals however not such a big accomplishment
Since their opponents were a 2v5
Also I must be watching different games cos WhoRu is the best Genji
SP9RK1E better
I don’t see either of them deadlifting Fury FiXa and Aimgod
Nahhhh
Kevster>SP9RK1E
I wonder what team this guy likes
Sp9rk1e is a genji 1 trick
Hangzhou Spark probably
2021 didn't happen?
Kevster Overrated
Whoru is a better genj 1 trick
Proper better
Thats why proper hasnt won a tourney
Proper title check?
WhoRU literal Genji one trick
Title check?
Didnt watch last year. Took a break from OW in 2021
Yeah that's why your take is terrible dawg
Lmao acting like Kevster isnt in a better team
SP9RK1E plays Genji because Genji is meta 4head
Also Patiphan carry
Kevster is still better lmao
My MVP ain't going 2-4 dawg
cope
Ans still better than Kilo
My MVP was put with best tank Smurf and god Genji Stalk3r
Your mvp did get absolutely destroyed by kevster 4-0d in grand finals of KC embarrassingly
SP9RK1E ain't my MVP dawg
My MVP off rolled and still did good
Profit?
Yea better than the Fraudster
Profit? The guy who flopped in msm?
I have no slander against profit
Mf thinks the most inconsistent player on his team is MVP 💀
Fits and Smurf better candidates
Fits is mid lil bro
Yeah he sure proved that at midseason madness
Stalk3r better on the Sojourn
Smurf also a very good MVP candidate
Give him role star finally pls
There is a solid everybody that will disagree with that statement
Well watching him against MN3 recently said so
He's very middling compared to Shy and MN3
Profit is only top 3 genji in apac imo
real
Who's the guy at charge
His role in general is done better by others
Choisehwan
Ok NA Andy
Choisehwan is decent
Am i wrong? Just in apac, both alphayi and whatever that shanghai guys name is is better ino
Literal NA Andy
STALK3R IS THE GENJI SPECIALIST WHO IS TOP 3
WHO OFTEN OUTCLASSES ALPHAYI, ZEST, AND WHORU
Not often but he is very good
Im talking about profit in his roll whe dps lmao. Either way you are wrong. Whoru diffs him in every way
Zest and WhoRu blades seem to get the most value
Stalk3r gets value without it
WhoRU is as good as Genji
But can only play the ninja character
He can also play bench! : D
And Profit owns the fraud Fleta because at least his Genji looked good
Lol
Argument debatable as one player has Smurf Vindaim and Creative/Profit/Iris and the other has Fury FiXa and Aimgod
Skill issue
Fusion basically is whether or not zest plays good. If not then they lose
That is like saying Eddie Hall is a weak man because he cannot deadlift a bus
So instead of replacing the bus with a Fischer Price car you replace Eddie Hall with Tom Stoltman
Whoru owns stalk3r
Where do you think Fusion would be in West?
Probably like Mayhem-Spitfire level
Sounds about rifht
7th
Peak at Defiant-Outlaws level with Belosrea ball
Yeah 7th is fair
Possibly 6th if the meta is Houstonable
Do the records "reset" for countdown cup?
what
Pretty sure they don’t and the Countdown Cup is just six more qualifying matches
👍
countdown cup is playins
So glads and spark have to do really good to make it
And the overall regular season record determines who makes playoffs, playins and home time
what
I am pretty sure Glads are in playoffs
Spark are instantly in playins unless Valiant go 6-0 and Charge go 5-1
And even if that happened I’m pretty sure that Fusion or Hunters would be a bigger candidate for a flop than Spark
Holy shit why did i even ask that???
Cos glads bad
why did derke not drop alfa his ak if he was gonna pop the ult
maybe next year
that's if OWL still exist in 2023
they wouldn't drop Eddie Hall 2
Kevater is one of the best DPS in the league
i'm coming to terms with the fact that the 5th year of the league is the weirdest one
It's cause of OW2
#fnaticpac @tropic herald
if emea gets knocked out today I will probably lose my shit
It would be funny
Basically they are guranteed 
XSET already beat FPX but lower bracket rematch FPX is diff
Top hitscan this torny? Na n apac
LIP the gaming warlord
LIP and Heesu are top 2 imo, who else? Fits? Edison?
idk kilo was great except againt dallas
edison above heesu 100%
eh, imo edison is a good hitscan, can at least cover what dallas needs but not like top 3 imo
just dallas is better then most teams
i mean idk this tourney heesu got gapped by sparkr
ok but sparkr is goated and london just fucks up toronto for some reason
edison shat on kilo this tourny
i agree sparkr is goated
but then sparkr got gapped by hydron too so
but london are cursed in tourneys i think
team diff
some teams are like, for example
London > Toronto > Mayhem > London
honestly, i think london are better than mayhem as a team
it feels like they just get random nerves when they play them
which they dont have vs anyone else
i still unironcally think london 4/5th in na rn
I mean that's a fair ranking
i think i had
dal , sfs , gla , ldn , tor , hou , fla
Fits, happy mn3 and k*i
what?
happy and kai idk why those 2 are here
What
?
isnt Heesu a bit overrated
he's good but top 2 really?
absolute beast at least in NA SS
When
The first time on every map Kai got outplayed
2021
Kai got giga gapped every map except the last one
Idk what to tell you if you don’t agree
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This is the first time
They faced of
Why did u link this
They do
Apparently fearless was a better and more aggressive jq as well
They don’t call him fearless for nothing
also hanbin said coluge was the best jq he faced off against
Hot take
I mean he is so
it is not
Wow! He played SO many TOP tier jqs I am so surprised
/s
Like CHADI
real
I want to see the knife accuracy stats for every JQ after the finals
And KALIOS
Because I think hanbin's is easily 5%-10% higher than everyone
hanbin makes jq look easy
She is
I wish dallas gave shock a pity map and put fearless on jq to see if this would hold up or not
Because it was the first time kai and fits faced of
Imo
wow angel....
he literally said
that coluge is the best jq he played again
and he also scrims against fearless
with internal scrims all the time
so i trust
official match imo
!!
hanbin
hanbin said
!!!
fearless
Ok
Agree
i misread that then
@cunning patrol i do not believe
that the 32 year old
just pulled off
a 1 v 4 basically
It was a cursed match
literally
right here bro
Idek
agree
Lol
What
bcj
will fleta be in the first overwatch player to have gotten like every title? or at least the most titles
if shanghai do a back to back and fleta is grand finals mvp
jesus how many titles does fleta have overall
no
lol
I mean yeah obvs not all, but Istg it was fleta or someone else that I remember had just a lot of titles to their name but I forgot lmao
yeah those 2 have 6 right?
yeah
I am
I am counting like for example, apex, mvp, roty, stage wins, gf mvp just all the titles
jesus, shanghai fucks a lot
I wanna see which players have the most titles which would probably just be shanghai and shock players that have more then 4 years in game
Stacked
And now he's a free agent
Carpe’s won none which I think is kinda sad as he was once arguably the best dps in the league (main focus on once) but also kinda funny
my mvp isn’t going 0-4 in titles
sadge, ans leaving made me sad, want him to grind tendies for a bit
????
shu is valid
Profit better
But Shus MVP run only got amplified with JOATs
Team can't win without him
Real!!!
good take
I really want to put speedily over profit but he has sadly not proven himself yet
so I will refrain from further fraudfit slander
agree
actually more profit slander he’s like the 4th best starter on his team pre SS
and probably the worst starter on his team in CC
smurf vindaim both better it’s just whether you rate him above iris and fits
(I do not)
ange1 is around double my age how lmaooo
BASED
I thino ProFits are pretty equal imo profits more pop off, fits more consistent, imo having a great tank (smurf) and a great pop off ms that is consistent (vindaim) is one of the reasons I think dynasty are a lot better
https://twitter.com/dickymclaughlin/status/1569805810980589575?s=46&t=6dFk0_EDr_gCiD2GdNRWeQ hold on !?
Breaking: From on-site media: XSET and FPX are replaying the final round of the series #VALORANTChampions
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wait hwhat happened
oh yeah
that was a bug
fr
just re watched
they had to hold heaven cuz
@willow drum xset are BACK
LMFAPOOOOO NA IS BACK
if they lose itll be mad funny but if they win its even funnier
no just final round
thats fuckrd
22 is a very normal age for esports players ?
you are not even close to 16
i am?
why is the catboy talking
when he cannot even bench 16 kilos
I HATE CATBOYS I AM NOTHING LIKE THEM
(30 ponunds)
why are u so weak then
I can bench 28 that is close enough shut up
supposed eating disorder
i will not make fun of you for that

NOO
I do not meow
which is an important trait for catboys
and I do not frequently make cat noises while playing super monkey ball despite what some people may say
....
DEALLLLLL
AMERICA
LETS GOOOO
interesting
riot once again
catering to the NA hard simps
when most na fans recognize
that should not be replayed
due to the sheer quantity of bugs
in val
sad imo
???
As if that bug hasn’t been there forever
If xset win everyone is gonna get so upset
That is such a bullshit reason to replay a round
eu mad because they cant win a game honestly tbh...
?
didn't the green wall
cheat their way to victory
Remember that viper wall? That was a bug that caused them to win potentially
using tech pauses
yeah riot let them do that over and over
It’s completely stupid
exactly fpx shouldnt even be here 💯
You can’t do this for every bug so dumb
can we fine zyppan for opening something that isnt aimlabs and valorant on stage
seems KIND of suspicious
LMFAO
like wtf is this LMAOO
why is it that every tourney for valorant seems to have a bunch of tech pauses and shit having to be replayed
fpx abusing tech pause to kill momentum
crazyyyyyy
lmfaooo imagine if sykko says something like that on twitter
id be crying
bro it s2:30
?!
bro 💀
Most sane valorant player
ok so what is the point they are even trying to make
Idk
just because that's what happens doesn't mean that's what's supposed to happen nor does it make it right
that a broken turret is equal to rape I guess
They’re not even remotely comparable idek how this guy thought of the comparison
true
Remember that kid over the weekend that said spawn camping was raping
By a big margin, Aspire's done more hero damage per 10 minutes this stage than anyone else in this match:
#1 Aspire, 9,468
#2 Proper, 8,570
But it hasn't converted quite as well into final blows:
#1 Proper, 9.9
#2 Aspire, 8.1
Or eliminations:
#1 Proper, 20.7
#3 Aspire, 19.9
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Wait wait seriously?
Are the owl leauge refs and valorant refs the same?
Aspire feeding support ults
Still not that bad
Contenders Australia is now affected due to recent DDOS attack.. Please fix as fast as possible blizzard ;-;
It was fun for easy watchime for Contenders skins
Where can you watch it
Please tell me you are joking
I'm still waiting in queue to sign into battle.net since I got home 4 hours ago
i got in instantly?
https://twitter.com/yayfps/status/1569812988864995328?s=46&t=tuLjUhyO3tilfNVE0rHk2w @cunning patrol @devout path this would fix vct
honestly given the recent turret drama. disqualify both XSET and FPX and fly in Sentinels
39879
1977
True sentinels would never play kj
me?
Ow is getting ddos'd so a lot of people can't get in rn
Agree
🫰
blizzard trying to make OW 2 look appealing so they're destroying OW 1 servers
any more crack theories
OWL returns in 8 days OW2 comes out in 20
Had ow ever had double xp?
Rip was hoping for double xp with the seasonal vault thing
It's in the description of this channel - you were asking where to watch Overwatch Contenders?
ah
that is very sad
wish him the best as a human but as a owl player he does not deserve rights
real
He was a downgrade
Over onigod
And worst dps on shock
Sadly
i literally have never cared about a single thing you have ever typed in this channel
Because
My takes
Are advanced
consistently low quality bait
Real
Speedily does not play tracer or any HS
You have to compare him to people like pelican, sp🤮🤮rkle, and etc
profit my goat
Rank your teams best year to worst year, like SHD18 <<<<<<<<<<<SHD21
Speedster better crank out a tracer
I like how ow2 went from being a seperate sequel with most focus on pve to a battle pass free to play that will replace ow1
it's a combination of not having a plan to having a plan and trying to execute to changing the plan because it'll take too long to execute
I honestly don't mind what blizzard is doing with OW and OW2
Yes I'm sad there's no more OW with 6v6
Glister got a bit unlucky with his teams
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Shock he could of looked good on Paris was just a little idk
Paris was a dogshit roster to begin with
What if
Only real bright spot was kaan/dridro, but compared to other backlines this year they fall behind
Mid
I think glister was a solid B tier
he was pretty good on paris
on 76
On paper the og paris roster looked better than boston, london,
London maybe, not boston
Honestly after seeing london do so well
Their was no reason
Paris could not have done the same
Lmaoo
Paris looked better in every positon besides OT and MS compared to boston
By what metric
Is daan better than goatsal
Glister was
A mid player sadly
Put in a position to succeed on shock
Way more than other players could dream of
glister is like b tier hitscan who can have great pop offs, like throughout london shock and paris
Most metrics
Ok
@cunning patrol Daan ball and doom
Was not bad
Imo
Disagree
d
Imo as a Toronto fan Heesu chucked some games sticking on ashe rather than playing Sojourn
Paris had a mid teir roster imho you add glister who showed blips of greatness and you are talking 500 season
Also getting rid of get amazed was a bad decision
Getting rid of Jmac's translator was a worse decision
Lmaoooo
I didn't even know they did that
Tbh it feels like glister wants a full Korean teammates
Which is why he joined a full eu team
??
b tier isnt really enough to perform nowadays
Idk maybe it was his best offer
even teams like vancouver have a tier hitscans like aspire
you say that like vancouver is a bad team
yes
and what place did florida get?
Random but funny
There Disneyland trip got canceled 
4th?
Heesu was the sole reason Toronto got 3rd
His Ashe was undoubtedly the best in the tourney
There where some moments maybe you switch to souj but the team still got 3rd
^
u cant get bodied by london and blame it on a person
like td got as far as they could
they wouldn't be able to beat shock or dallas
And they just barely beat Florida
A bit unlucky is a understatement
mentally boomed shock
And they did infinitely better when he got played more
Shock got their highest placement in the season just playing glister full time
Ans was a bum
Their best stages came from when glister was benched
Lol
They still wen't 12-4 and he looked mid AF unlike A tier goat nero
All their stages sucked until playoffs
Disagree
They went 3-1 and 4-0
With very little glister
Not his fault
Sparkr gapped him
Agape sabotaged the team before the stage
Cope
They were still a top 5 team
In Na
Imo
Top 5 in na is nothing to brag about
It was ATL glads fuel were all solid
And imo they were only
Behind
Those 3
So did glads
But NOBODY talks about it
Its sad
Also legit ga9a and fate
Were the only good balls in owl
Every other one was equally bad
there are still like 3-4 good ball players only
mikeyy would have cleared those bums
That szn
Agree
agre
reiner mikey bernar belorosea fate hadi(?)
Gator ball 💀
idk man chengdu just suck
i lowkey forgot he was in the league
they got top 4 worldWIDE
with glistah in playoffs
Ok he did a good job on sym
he also obliterated DALLAS on widowmaker and they were top tier
And sombra
That one JT map vs defiant counters that one map vs fuel
thats just toronto
boring ass team
To counter
joats literally has time dilation
disagree
making me forget Dallas still has fearless
shoudlve put taiyo in
trueing
What characters yall think will be meta this next stage?
Mayhem are gonna be fucking everyone lol
Except for Dallas and Shock
fucking everyone (that is bottom 4 na)
dallas are gonna be worse this meta
glads are going to be top team again
I think darker green means the team is guaranteed for playoffs
Woahhhh
and I think the yellowish green is for teams that are fighting for playoffs as well
I'm not entirely sure how many teams are allowed into play-ins
but I think either bottom 3 of NA and last place apac would auto not qualify for them
and their seasons would end
Vigilante uv
Very solid
Double FS
Lineup
Easily top 3
Outlaws/London/Defiant/Atlanta/Mayhem/Spark/Philly are at least playins
Imo
no but def good ass double fs
Justice/Boston/Titans/New York/Paris/Chengdu/Charge/Valiant fighting for playins
should expect the green teams
hard to see any other teams getting ni
in
yeah but we could imo see justice/charge/titans making it imo
cc is playins and then playoffs
can't find info on how many playin teams go to playoffs
where is atlanta?
i believe
uh
top 10 na
top 6 apac
i think like
top 5 na auto qual
top 3 apac auto qual
then the rest duke it out
its worth noting 5th seed na is not terribly hard to switch
top 4 are probably locked unless one of them shits themselves hard
and boston are the only team that should truly be worried about not making play ins for na
then apac
i think top 6 auto qualify
since the green changes after the 6
to light green
philly and hangzhou gonna have a mid off
ah
top 6 makes sense
but yeah
na 5th and 6th is not very locked
which you ideally want to be
im thinking london does not auto qualify
is there any way for vancouver to get in
I think in a hard double FS meta shock/glads are a tier above every other team
atlanta would probably be top 5 without difficulty
possibly top 3
yes
all vancouver has to do is have another decent stage
i think
well
they need a decent stage and boston to fumble
or
perfect stage
NA SA APAC EU Gauntlet, imma see which teams didn't get a single player in owl or had no players in owl
In asia DPI was former mayhem n Adam was former valiant o all players had at least owl talent
EU: Avoided, Old and Bored and OTPog had no owl former or new to them
NA: Noble, Drifter and Qara also no owl
SA: Dignity, And They Say, War Pigs, Patitos, Aggressive and Vlog de Caminhoneiro had not owl, only 2 did overall, mikeyy and alemano
both played for boston
rip titans
boston gets 4.5 winnable games
titans get 3
titans would have to upset toronto and probably dallas to have a chance at qualifying
Its not likely
But
Titans could go 4-2
And boston
Could go 1-5
This lets titans make it
if they beat both paris and london they are equal to boston
and boston gets a free win on paris
boston also has 3 games in a row of teams that will infamously get rolled by bottom teams for no reason
from what I see on teams n shit no on gauntlet the teams dps was aeko and p3t9l
and like, on liquipedia I don't see seeker return till 2021
manifesting a cool lan with a crowd for playoffs 
plssss
il fly out
as long as its in the us
i stg if its in canada
i will be illegally crossing the border
Bold prediction van will make play ins
💀
bro really thinks Titans will beat at minimum london Florida paris toronto/Dallas/glads minimum
and that Boston will lose to justice and/or nyxl
Boston must play Seeker
lmaoo today is apr1ta's first day streaming and tarocook1e got banned from chat thrice
he just flames apr1ta, gets banned, waits for the ban time to run out, flames him again, then gets banned again
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old but based
classic
Shock is an easy win for Spitfire
if any of these teams were in london's schedule last stage they would not have qualified for tourney
We might have if it was the early glads
Lmaoo
london does not beat early glads
all of glads early matches were extremely close maps against the best teams in the league
or high tier teams playing at their peak
glads do not drop a set to a mid at best team
map 5 dallas where 1 teamfight on 3 maps couldve made it a glads win
1-3 against shock where each map glads lost besides junkertown were down to last fight
and junkertown was still close
last fight against houston
toronto was a mess i admit but if they break out of the spawnhold it's very likely a map 5 and completely new scenario
imo glads were a top 4 team that stage who underperformed against houston then lost to the best 3 teams at the meta
(in close fashion)
big copium ik but london lost to atlanta justice florida (twice)
also i think it'd be really funny if london last to vancouver
in CC
though paris and nyxl are free wins
honestly i'm excited for vancouver
when they got mirror and dpei they didnt get to show whether they were actually good bc they got the toughest schedule of the year that stage
then they popped off in the jq stage so idk if that is dpei or k1ng or a combination or if they just jived really well with the meta
we will see how revamped vancouver does in an actual stage
okay as much as i like to shit on london fans
their final match of the year is against shock
and likewise shock's final match of the year is against london
and i think it would be very funny
if shock's second regular season loss of the year
(assuming they do not lose to houston toronto atlanta or washington)
is to chadi and friends
a very middling team
this could be very scuffed i did not double check it
Dude it was a joke
text does not convey sarcasm
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the tire block
everyone talking about the biggest announcement of an announcement
when NoHill's just left the Valiant
Sacked no hill cause he complained the org was shite
Defiant above London?
What kinda of grade A copium do you sniff and where can I buy it
thought imagine if they magically perform better, morale buff
Well diya probably gone now
Is there any news on jq changes?
The new hero has a immortality field
Yeah and it cleanses anti heal
YO ANS LEFT
Wait is it possible to get new heroes for free by grinding or u have to buy battle pass

