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Love to see flanking Bob
atl and glads are both goats
its ok
Sirjax
Ajaxmjed
he just sucks man
he is actual garbage
his zen is mid
like this kid actually hit space before he beated
is that not the bare minimum
Throw is probably the response
Yeah
ball dva
I missed parasio what happened
Florida won
Hells yeah
So it’s tied
see so
who said
Florida could not win this
this is why I think Ana zen in the meta
me
now if a team that wasn't Florida played it
Twilight
imagine Winston on circuit royal
there is no world where florida mayhem beats toronto defiant
Other than this world
Are Mayhem big 4 @cunning patrol ???
I'm holding you to that
I feel like they could’ve punished the genji on that last push before his blade
Big 6!!!
Atl and glads are better in my books
Agree
YES
Lmbao
what was he cooking
Who
I will never forget that legendary Toronto game casted by spice adams
Same
with Tay Zonday on the desk
Lol
who won which modes?
Toronto won first then fla next two then Toronto won push
damn
Fr
the last fight hadnt started when you said that 😩
Lmbao
Well
ok tor win this
Definitely
they have the ults
Oh my goodness
lmao
never a doubt in my mind
shitter team florida mayhem
would never beat a solid and respectable team
like the toronto defiant
Toronto always win control
They won a fight with the doomfist. That was impressive
energy is insane
Fr
Mother diff
😱

double flex is the prophecy
Indeed
they played this year already iirc
Did they
yes
every NA team plays eachother twice
it's the end of the 3rd stage
so of course they have played by now
Oh right that was when Mickey got diffed by muze monke
oh i remember they got fuller held on dorado i think
Yeah
Toronto my boys
Finally
No it was when kilo got destroyed by heesu
Soujourn
Lol
But he also got diffed by muze
Yeah that’s wot I was saying
Not the reason they lost just the map where Mickey got diffed
But the hessu was definitely it especially the widow snipe
Carpe catching strays even on na broadcast
How else are they gonna Finnish second
lmao
most likely
Toronto are winning it all
read the script I see
I mean shock were very close to winning maps 1 and 2 but dropped the spaghetti hard
Cope
I believe Seoul might fall this time
They are in danger right now
There is possible 2 losses in a row
Shut it bum
they lost a map
to doomfist tracer
not even like a proper or kevster level tracer
they played doom tracer for a total of 60 seconds
the the GOAT hanbin
in his interview justified it with
i just wanted to play doomfist he is fun :)
Shock winning a map would be an upset
nah
I fully expect dallas to win it without a lot of trouble
but I think shock can take a couple maps
They were unironically 1 second off winning lijang
but they had no boops for hanbin's ult
they choked so hard on lijiang
then hollywood came down to one fight
losing a 2v5 is so funny
You just can’t beat handbin 🤷
also I know why hanbin is a very good jq
They learned that from eu 💯
he is the only one that can actually fucking aim his knife
#fpxlose
🥶
Disagree
Kevster winning mvp would be bad
I think proper already won mvp
Yeah he did
It wouldn't
lip should win
Maybe
Ok
If he loses every finals
If he disowns eu
Kevster going 2-4 and missing tourney hurts big time
Proper now at worst, has gotten 2nd/3rd/4th in the tourneys
If he does that #kevstermvp
And at best, 1st/2nd/4th
where 1st ?
Assuming shock make finals. Those bums will lose to botba
Imo kevster winning 2 titles and being a big one flex dps every stage over takes proprr getting 4th 3rd and 2nd and being big 2 flex dps
Imo
They nearly.lost
To sirmajed
Toronto is finished
And irrelevant
Toronto are a big team
They’re gonna place higher than atl have all season tomorrow @twin bloom
ATL have gotten 3rd
Many times
Toronto is solid, but shock/dallas imo are still just a tier above everyone else
And in honest metas
Shock are also irrelevant.
I hate how that made me laugh
@tropic herald are you ready for 2 eu teams to go home tomorrow?!?!
#leviatansweep
they are a pretty sick team
They also have Jesus coaching them
their coach is so funny
after they won and were getting pics he kept shushing the crowd as they booed

also
i love how bcj used an ability to counter in an ult that would not turn heads in OW but in VAL it was like a 200IQ play
bcj is my goat
love that dude
BIG GUY
any one want to talk about the over watch league
The timing for that tp is very hard
That would be worse than this
then they don’t even make grand finals
S9mm hasn’t scrimmed all stage
If he has it’s been minimal
Maybe if he goes genji
they’ll get a genji upgrade but it will be a 4v5 with pr*per sojourn
Idk both play genjay and sojourn
Proper soujourn s9mm genji was pounding early on
proper is not bad at sojourn
Proper isn’t a team player
show one 5k he’s gotten on sojourn
also kilo isnt the only issue imo
He has actually gotten one lmfao
That’s exactly who he got it against
just a thought
Kill0 is a massive issue in my books
I will stir up drama between them.
No
goat privileges
Tor will lose against sfs
they went map 5 with florida no shit
has defiant even ever won against sfs
i will join toronto and beat dallas and shock myself.
not if I join dallas
I know your weakness
😈
Bro you’ve been sayin tor will lose to every team they play
We knocked Justice out
Remember that
Toronto will lose against SFS
They would have to beat Shock for the first time ever to make finals tomorrow
Shock are terrible
ive only seen the first map yesterday but it looks like kilo is their biggest problem
shock became anti-clutch
Dallas just have really good target focus
so finn gets fucked so often
or kilo
"shock always loses first control against good teams haha dont worry guys"
"shock map 2 amirite guys?"
"shock would never drop circuit... right?"
London 😭
fraudulent team
lost to fucking mayhem lmaoo
who was the mf who tried to say that map 3 between shock and dallas was close
it was hellfire wasn't it
tragic i thought he was past his days of common shock fan coping
no full hold is a close map unless there were two full holds
like barely winning 1st point in OT
dallas capped
with 2.5 minutes
like i think they lost maybe 1 fight on that map
possibly 2
on their attack i mean
no way their attack round lasted a minute and a half and hell fire is gonna call it close
Lmfaooo
Kevster is so clear
Won 2 stages has been the best dps in the world nearly every stage
yall saying dps this dps that tank this tank that
Even when gladiators went 2-4 he was by far their best player and popping off in every match
when we all know the real mvp is shu
Shu was benched an entire stage
He's the best flex support but no one should get mvp after being benched for an entire stage imo
ima need someone to simply and clearly explain what flex support means
I heard it had something to do with cooldown based healing and utility but no matter where I look I cannot find an actual description
Imo kevster would have won mvp if he made it to the tourney and done decently
But sadly glads sucked ass early
So Talent will vote proper
He has been better than proper in every stage but this one
If proper gets it its just unreal recency bias
Individually proper and kevster have been neck and neck
Main supports have the role of buffing their teammates (beat, rally, valk, etc) and ms peel for their flex support
Flex support tends to debuff enemies more (discord orb, window, anti nade etc.)
Also main healer is again something else, this is the healer that provides the bulk of healing for the team, this can be basically any one of supports based on meta
alright that makes more sense
bap zen is essentially double flex and they put out a ridiculous amount of damage
Flex support is Zen/ana/bapt/moira
Main Support is Lucio/mercy/brig
You will commonly see Flex supports on brig as well
ah crap
I might be a flex player
is that Hanbin clutch the best play of the season so far? It's got to be up there
literally shades of Carpe "Winnable", Shu v Hunters and EQO blade on rialto
trying to think of others from this season: Pelican Hanzo on Push, Shanghai's insane stall against Seoul yesterday to take Dorado B - any more?
It’s not really an individual moment but mn3 vs seoul from the mid season madness regular season is up there
for an individual performance that was the best
Time for fusion to win so they can get second place againn
It does suck we won't get to see Fuel v Dragons in this meta
would literally be Shock v Titans GOATs esque
Avarl in the drip
and that went to the 7 maps
I would probably make Dragons favourites in that matchup but man it would be a classic
Ah yes. The same incredible comps again
shame we don't get it 😭
You love to see it
I don’t like the Philadelphia Fusion
But I don’t like the Seoul Dynasty more
FiXa what are you doing there?
Aimchecking fucking Fits on the wall
FURY OUT OF POSITION
MN3 and ZEST deadlifting their whole team is not weird
ong
Seoul jus never initiated lol
It will be completely different on this map tho
Can’t poke as much
Aw shit Fits is playing sojourn
lool
Somebody told him how to pick a character that isn’t ashe in the hero select screen
^
Can someone tell me why Toronto was the only team that actually has a stage
I mean I’d prefer to see fusion dragons over Seoul dragons
Purely because fusions the only team to have gotten a map from them
And we’ve already seen Seoul dragons this playoffs
Dallas Kickoff Clash?
oh silly me how could i forgor
shy best hs in the world!!!!!!
is that enough
i miss mn3s old hair it was so cute#
Mn3 do be popping doe
He's unreal
Toronto has the power of Canada and overactive media on their side
hockey arenas are also great for stuff in summer they're well kept
Echooo
Fixa?????
What’d he do
Not beat against stalk3r blade
If he beats there mn3 stays alive and zest can go aggro to farm rampage
Oh right
My exact reaction to him getting signed
aimgod 💀💀
Ong
I'm gonna get flamed but these echo nerfs were too harsh
the whole selling point of her ult was that if you played well you'd be able to get another ult
now you can get like 2 kills and still not have enough to build up to it
just get 3 kills
pray that circuit royale is enough to carry fusion
FiXa got that EU brainlag
they are getting rolled
Feel like fusion r just not building ults fast enough
Oh dear god FiXa is costing them this game
i take back what i said about fixa not being bottom 3 ms
Oh my God mn3 is so good
mm3 is carrying this
always has been
anyways
it was a dps carry to get to point 3
@hot onyx I know it's really common to go 3-1 for Seoul, but this is still
F I X A B L E
nah
what do you guys think of the molly situation
no clue so fair
only the tweet form before
tl;dr he complained about bullying and stuff on charge
other charge ppl called bullshit
COLLOSEO??
this has prob been answered a million times but do u still get tokens if ur alttabbed
they will
tokens ?
u know the owl tokens
ah
i dont know
i only have the channel subbed for the over vids and the interviews after the game
Watching fixa play
also true
oh god smurf
Aimgod hasn’t used rally this map
the ult cycle is off for dynasty
imagine we see fixa get dropped next week or something like that
okay the part of push that matters, the last 2m 30s
this entire map summed up in those 5 seconds
map gone
massive throw
I HATE THIS SUPPORT LINE
is Push drawable?
nope
incredibly low chances
they should fix that
so many fucking mistakes
maybe
why didnt fusion touch lol
holy was this going to go to map 5 at one point
tank shoulda just gone for it
Gg
Got booped
Don’t know why they didn’t drop earlier
is it going to be another 3-0 for the dragons
4-0
fury_neck.exe is not responding
push is drawable yes
tanks get booped less right?
I feel like it wouldve contested if anyone actually tried lol
it can only happen if either no one moves the bot at the start
or both teams get the checkpoint (?)
They just let zest contest by himself idk what they were waiting for
what makes you think they aren't trying though
Fixa is a good lucio guys !
zest got used and abused
can't wait to see stalk3r getting put into place by who r u !
His back would be broken after going from FunnyAstro to FiXa
And Aimgod would’ve been hired as a substitution
While his back healed from carrying harder than his whole career
(including having Carcar as a support partner)
Idk Aimgod completely threw that map he waited like 5 minutes to rally despite getting it first
yeah
The hope is gone
And the support ult usage in general was terrible
Fusion should be on Finals, NOT THE SEOUL
Hopefully we get a better mers if but still should of done better
I am tired of the team losing with 3:0 in a row
You know what
The fate is decided
Seoul cannot win Shanghai, even just one round (as of now)
It's obvious
as if fusion could win a round
If the Fusion made it to finals the result would be opposite
I wanted to see 'that' possibility
😄
🥲
tor vs sfs
who'll take it?
and too bad london lost to mayhem, but took tor 3-1. wtf
this is not a question lol
the question is how many maps sfs will take off dallas
Easily, but FiXa using beat when nobody was on critical and no ultimate was used on either side (idk how it would be justified by trying to combine with blade) was a harder throw imo
Actually you're right, the fate are decided to Seoul
There is NO 'What if's
Now it's over
Sorry caster, it's not exciting
Because the result will be obvious
you mean the mega late beat on the last fight? guy must be getting ccp money to throw
fellow fusion fan do i have good news for you
What is it
alongside the Philadelphia Fusion being one of the richest organisations in the league, they have managed to accumulate
$130,000
in prize money?
in prize money
I was about to say that LOL
for next season
guys its shanghai vs seoul
At this point I doubt there’ll be a next season
never seen before
alongside what they might earn next season
Whoru is just better unfortunately
The head of fusion org seems super generous with the fusion budget tbh
why was oprofit thwere lmao
wow fits
dagger
no fucking clue
this could go all 7 rounds
lol
maybe 6
maybe its just control things tbh
min is 5
seoul won this exact map yesterday vs dragons aswell
yeah
Submap
It came to me in a dream shock lose to Toronto 3/2 cause heesu clutch
could happen
Yeah
they are cooking
Easy for smurf
damn
Oh Seoul took a map of Shanghai
literally 2 rounds in a row that thats happened doesnt make sense lmao
I am not joking that came to me in a dream LMAO
that was twice Void hit a huge Rampage but Seoul somehow won the fight
Yeah
They had the rally
It makes since. Cuz i mean toronto winning the tourney
didn't Dragons use beat as well?
Didn’t have it I don’t think
They used it prior
Rally + blade beats rampage
Dallas probably winning it, sadge but only shock/Toronto can take maps imo
they used it prior
so yes they used beat
but not well timed
nope LJG used it in the same fight as the Void Rampage, I just watched it back
yes but it wasnt well timed
should have been later
I call Seoul and Shock wins today
guess the Stalker blade was too scary to not beat
and izayaki died with beat
Ignoring justice but they suck
as in they should have beat the blade after a couple swings
maybe like 2
yeah that's fair
Yeah probably. But imma get some hopium 😄
This is what I hope happens
Shock can't beat home buff. Defiant win it all
Unlikely but not impossible
Shock never wins a tourney this whole year so no proper mvp
I think Shanghai still win but hopefully it’s close
Yeah fair
Hell yeah
Chengdu never wins a tourney the whole last year so no Leave mvp right?
I have been team defiant this entire time
Oh i meant roty
Leave shouldn't have won MVP last year, let's be real
Leave was the sole reason they made so many tourneys
Eh they got real close
should've been Lip
Proper still roty
Yeah
Tho imo
If proper gets MVP and ROTY at the same time
Probably
Both pelican and alarm didn’t win any tourneys either lol
Although is gonna get it this year
ZEST has brought very similar results with team mates worse in every role
except hs
Zest > proper
Propers still better in the mirror on all heroes imo
hell for 4 matches he had to put up with Carpe and Furys corpse alongside the worst support line in apac
shame Stalker has only really played this stage or he'd be well in contention for ROTY
I wanna see philly v shock
i don't
Coluge vs Furys corpse
FiNN vs Aimgod
We might see it in the play offs
Peak phill could win buttt with the way they played today shock would win easily
Proper v Zest would be fun
Mn3 v Kilo
Aplhayi roty kekw
in the league
it would be fun if the rest of the match ups weren't one sided like butter on toast
where would you place Viol2t on MS
probably middle
Probably in the overwatch league
like 9th-11th
Upper mid
yeah
ms drought is so bad Viol2t is in the top 10
Skewed #1 brig
hopefully Bliss and Hyunjae fix that
who's above him: Chorong, Chiyo, Vindaim, LJG, Astro - trying to think who else
Al the teams thought double fs would be meta, it was meta for like 1 state and then it’s double MS lol
probably missing someone obvious
Ojee Faith
that's a debatable one
its not
Lep...?
debatable
Lip dc lol
Lmbao
Oh shit over viol2t im dumb
Ojee has more of a case than Faith
xerneas before he joined OWL
yes
but he's been disappointing
in the league
imo
tbf he has had to go from different duties
That’s just charge as a whole imo
plus mickey mouse meta
do you mean this season or overall?
this szn
because when he was Yveltal he was cracked
he proves himself next year imo
fuckin' Lengsa maybe??
Nisha brig is really good
I take Viol2t
his brig ?
so Viol2t would be about 8th in the league? Seems about right
yeah
wonder how good Finn would've been on Lucio
Viol2t is better then xern nisha lengsa fixa and faith and on the level of lep ojee imo
is there any main support worse than FiXa really?
I don’t think any of them are bad ms
hmm
GNJ?
when he was forced to play it
or do you mean actual main support players
Opener? Anamo?
lep is not > nisha
or lengsa
viol2t's better than lep by far
i take both over FiXa honestly
Imo he is
okay if you think
leps lucio
is higher than 5th
ur trolling
whereas nisha had a very good brig
last year
nisha is better on his 1 trick + mercy
Lep ojee viol2t are like good ms but not top tier
than lep is on his own 1t
lep is not a good ms
whoru brother
viol2t is miles higher than lep
Lip is too good
Lengsa v FiXa?
Left to right is how I’d rank em at least on lucio
mf lengsa is better
lep is a lucio 1 trick
he has never played brig
in his life
how can he be a good ms
lep plays lucio
idk I'm trying to think of low team main supports
and only luico
Based, fuck brig
he's better than violet or even probably
but not a better MS
no, just no
How can u say lep is a good Lucio
When ch0r0ng demolished him like crazy yesterday
At worse he gets picked off first too often that’s it
...
Chorong is top tier lucios lmao
Nah ch0r0ng would never gap viol2t that hard
Lep looked like a D tier player
He has been super weak
Dallas 4 Toronto 2
Just cause one is that much better doesn’t mean the other isn’t good
okay
Lep isn't good overall tho lol
He sucks
Yeah but I consider viol2t over ojee and lep and under fastro imo
imo it is crazy shock
upgraded every single role
and downgraded their mt
so hard LOL
Idk if they upgraded every role but def downgraded their mt, but super is one of the goats of mt in Ow1
IMO
???
they did
finn > viol2t fs
viol2t > fd ms
🐯🖤💛
proper >> nero fdps
kilo > both ans and glister hs
and then they slightly downgraded
on OT
Viol2t Twilight imo better then Finn Viol2t
ask anybody here
and they will say finn is better than twilight
i think you are the only person who believes that
finn is a top 3 fs
Everyone here is mentally challenged
agree
i think twilight is better than finn
Ok but seriously Finn is def good but I think twilight Ana and zen are better then finns
finn clears on every other fs sad
you're coping sad
Their Ana are close at the least
He is
and i would also much easily take
2022 shock support line
over 2021 shock supports
because of viol2ts improvement
on the lucio
Ur literally a platinum hardstuxk that has the most reddit takes ever
FINN>twilight
yes
?
Twilight in his prime>FINN
Yes
the biggest TD fans here literally all think finn is better
So soon again
as of now
Yes
Soon when twilight returns to his prime it will be >FINN
But other then that coluge and Choi are close, mikeyy < super, dps line is better
Who are the top 3 on their roles all time in your opinion
its not even mikeyy < super
anyone besides ur picks
since u cant do shit about retirements
its literally just smurf is the best MT in the league
and they went from the best mt in s5
to a ball player
wdym ?
.....hm yeah alright that’s a fair statement
On dps who are the top 3 OAT, support and tank as well, who do you consider the best 3 players on each of their roles
Is pretty much what I am asking
on shock
or just league
League
3-0 SFS 4-3 dalls my press for today
dps is profit lip
Fair tho I’d replace fate
Void clears those
void is also fair shout
just hanbin has been much better
this season
lip just better i think
Offtank: Void Hanbin Choi
MT: Fate Super Smurf
Hitscan:Birdring LiP Fits
Flex dps:Profit Fleta Rascal
Flex support: Shu Viol2t Twilight
Main support: Moth Funnyastro LeeJaeGon
I agree except fearless over fate tbh
Actually rascal>kevster
???
Is this all time
Ah
He won titles before OWL even was a thing in NA
I think Alarm could be on there
Yeah yeah but I just consider fearless better on everything but ball
Fair
If it's just prime then alarm is definitely on there
Kinda crazy that carpe doesn't make an all time hitscan list
Last 2 seasons have been extremely rough
wheres his trophies!
Last time he was good was like, maylee s4
yuh
remember when fits was the best dps on dynasty over Fleta and Illicit
Ye
seoul got a map 
He was their best dps every season until this season
Based
stalk3 is good
@vagrant cargo do u believe proper
should get both mvp and roty
because i believe his hype
is unstoppable
Same
Why
glads as a whole
He has been the best player 2 stages straight
need shu to be in
Glads needed a better J1
it is shu
he literally is
Shu is not the most valuable player they would not win even with him in in this meta
They nearly beat Dallas played good vs shock and were competitive with Toronto
The top 3 teams this meta in NA
somewhat fair
No shu wasn’t the problem it was more reiner being sub mid
ig
And had no happy vs outlaws which they also barely lost
is whoru waring HAIRCLIPPERS ????
Yeah
Hairclip diff
What do you have against that
tina has the best hairclipper
are you asking this for real?



