esports-discussion

[willow drum]

? o2 blast inst playing

are u bad

or just blind

[cloud latch]

no way you said that 💀

[willow drum]

cope

o2 blast clears dallas

[twin bloom]

They will lose.map 5

[willow drum]

(very based and real)

[twin bloom]

Without their map 5

Specialist

[fast tusk]

there gonna be called the happiators

[twin bloom]

Sadly

[cloud latch]

loses one map I am no longer a shock fan guys what do you mean

[willow drum]

i support o2

[cloud latch]

hellfire actually the definition of a shock fan

💀

[willow drum]

first and foremost

i cheered for them when they lost to runaway (imo mickey mouse loss)

[hot onyx]

Only on dps and flex support

[keen abyss]

season 6 is so strange lol

[willow drum]

imo its enough to warrant a W

[keen abyss]

reiner hanbin kevster happy heesang shu skewed fastro was really just

[willow drum]

wait.

flex support?

[keen abyss]

an unloseable roster

did not drop a single series

[earnest leaf]

now

no more ashe

[balmy wolf]

just played a match of instagib

guess I'm still decent at that

[hot onyx]

Babel > Fielder

[willow drum]

.... @cloud latch ofc

[cloud latch]

😂

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[keen abyss]

i am intimidated

[hot onyx]

do I look like I’m joking?

[mortal cipher]

Nei shot

[cloud latch]

it's late for you tea man go to bed

[keen abyss]

wouldnt tp out of spawn be good on this map

[willow drum]

its so funny lmao

[mortal cipher]

This is truly 2019

[willow drum]

how much better

sojourn is better

than ashe

on this map

yes legday LAG didnt spawncamp

that well

[keen abyss]

kevin has got a kill both fights

after they lost

[earnest leaf]

shock go sojourn

glads go ashe

glads get rolled now

curious

[willow drum]

almost like ashe

is a throw

and sojourn is better

good fastro beat

[keen abyss]

the best part of this match

imo

is the double home skin clash

it makes the kill feed look so much cooler

[willow drum]

C9

LMAP

imo glads fucked that up

[cloud latch]

fax

[willow drum]

c9ed

blade gets nothing

beat wasted

[old stag]

are shock and glads really playing at their strongest right now?

[keen abyss]

no

[old stag]

I feel like they arent

[keen abyss]

finn brig is awful

and glads haven't been good on this meta

[old stag]

they look like they aren't really trying

[forest token]

I love dragonblade

[willow drum]

C9

C9

C9

[keen abyss]

kevster and proper used blade

as emotes

[old stag]

0k dragonblades are a norm in this meta

[willow drum]

propers was better

[forest token]

I mean

[old stag]

c9

[forest token]

everything that shock and glads have been working on the first two stages

is now in the dumpster

because this meta is very skillful and fun

[willow drum]

proper did nothing with his blade

but kevster

cost them the point

he should have went point imho

[hot onyx]

Hellfire my nan has taken an interest in Propers mechanical skill

[keen abyss]

it is over

[hot onyx]

Do you know which teams were in the bidding war for Proper during 2021?

[keen abyss]

sans nan is off of her based arc

[hot onyx]

She says “I wouldn’t mind Proper if he wasn’t on bloody San Francisco” though

[keen abyss]

slightly more based

pooper bad however

[willow drum]

LOL

[willow drum]

No I am not aware

[cunning patrol]

Proper is a zoomer

He’s too young

[cunning patrol]

All of them

[cloud latch]

based

[twin bloom]

Glads

Did

[willow drum]

He said

that a lotta teams

wanted him

so i imgine glads shanghai did

a lotta other oens

[hot onyx]

Proper to London 👀

[twin bloom]

ATL wanted proper

Since 2020

Lol

[cunning patrol]

I mean I’m sure they tried

[hot onyx]

Fair

[cunning patrol]

Or maybe they didn’t bother idk

[keen abyss]

viol2t lucio so good..

[twin bloom]

Might as well

Shoot a shot

[willow drum]

andy miller coughed up big bucks

[cunning patrol]

He didn’t pay him that much

[willow drum]

fastro ???

what was he cooking

[keen abyss]

these are the 2 best lucios in the league

[fast tusk]

what is he cooking tho ?

[keen abyss]

you just don't understand

[willow drum]

STREAM

[willow drum]

agree

[hot onyx]

Ahem ChiYo?

Below the bum?

smh

[willow drum]

hes baiting

[keen abyss]

sorry

[hot onyx]

I should hope so

[keen abyss]

viol2t > fixa > chiyo > fastro

[hot onyx]

Even saying ChiYo < Fastro ironically is criminal

[willow drum]

what was shock doing

[keen abyss]

c9 :(

[willow drum]

sad

[cunning patrol]

What

[hot onyx]

c9 D:

[keen abyss]

^^^

i agree

so much

[willow drum]

?

u implying chiyo > fastro

?

[hot onyx]

I’m implying pressure in your mothers ovaries

[cloud latch]

it's late for sans please be nice to him <3

[willow drum]

my bad sans

[keen abyss]

i dont remember chiyo being #1 #2 and #3 on ladder at the same time in 2019

chiyo bad

[hot onyx]

10:30 isn’t that late

[keen abyss]

fastor god

[willow drum]

goodthing

nobody

is playing ashe

zzz

[keen abyss]

fastro > plopper

[willow drum]

shock should have

rally

[keen abyss]

as demonstrated from that fight

[earnest leaf]

flopper feed

[keen abyss]

viol2t bad player

did not beat early enough

[fast tusk]

yess glads

lets goo

[wicked pendant]

Damn, that was a good blade.

[willow drum]

WHAT IS LEMONKIWI

SAYING

LMAO I SWEAR

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

pov: ur lemon

[forest token]

I love a team being backed into a corner isolated from one of their dps and because there isn't enough damage to cut through the healing in time the genji still dies before he can get a dash reset

it's so cool

[willow drum]

this is such a meta

[forest token]

welp esport I care about is done I'm out

[willow drum]

not sure why fastro

beated there

when shock were down 2

[worn falcon]

glad flopped

[willow drum]

agree

skewed fucked up

@hot onyx did u see that

whipsot miss

[old stag]

shock is just better :)

[hot onyx]

I did

[keen abyss]

as shown by midseason madness

[stuck radish]

push isnt colosseo

[old stag]

true

[stuck radish]

winnable for shock

[final musk]

How can the game get worse than a rein rush meta? Devs answered.

[willow drum]

? rein rush is far

[hot onyx]

better at coin flips ;)

[willow drum]

better than this

fucking BS

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[willow drum]

they have heesang

ofc they're better at coin flips

[old stag]

rein rush is so fun???

why do you guys hate all the fun metas

[willow drum]

my man won the coin flip for genes and life skills

[final musk]

Sure thing. Shitty too though.

[willow drum]

or rather their acad team has heesang

[fathom igloo]

Rein rush is fun

[mortal cipher]

It is

[old stag]

+1

[fathom igloo]

Esspically as a d.va player

[mortal cipher]

More enjoyable to watch

[wicked pendant]

I want the dive metas back. Sorry, support players. Take one for the team because this meta is awful.

[mortal cipher]

Aye

[old stag]

dive meta is less fun than joats

[wicked pendant]

How blasphemous

[hot onyx]

Watch them sign Viper and let Heesang go to Dallas

[fathom igloo]

Dove Meta is boring af

[mortal cipher]

That’s a hot take in a half

[willow drum]

BURN BLUE BABY

WOOOOOH

[stuck radish]

heesang will go to the washington justice and will be coached by sup7eme

[wicked pendant]

If you don't find dive, when played at a high level, fun to watch then I just don't know what to tell you

[hot onyx]

Join the nan clan

[willow drum]

whats justices

motto

?

[fathom igloo]

Justice is served

[willow drum]

injustice is taken back

i guess

[cloud latch]

justice is served prob

[willow drum]

i will give up on heesang if he goes anywhwere near sup7eme

or maybe toronto

anywehre else is fair game

[mortal cipher]

Justice is a worse option

[willow drum]

yea

[mortal cipher]

Just don’t go to Justice

[willow drum]

@twin bloom do u think that they will play ashe on nqs

or still sj?

[hot onyx]

Heesang and Clestyn would fix all of Defiants problems

[willow drum]

agree

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[willow drum]

clestyn muze heesang heesu chorong twilight

[mortal cipher]

Proper goes to defiant lol

[willow drum]

gg for league

nobody wins

except them

[mortal cipher]

Defiant becomes the best team in na

[cloud latch]

well

who coaches them

[willow drum]

me

[mortal cipher]

That’s the real question

[willow drum]

i will utilize

[stuck radish]

what is this

[hot onyx]

MN3 ZEST Hanbin Fearless Bliss Vigilante

[willow drum]

"proper go kill"

[willow drum]

itd be close

[fast tusk]

i cant get over this song man, its such a banger

it goes so hard

[willow drum]

imo i predict houston will implode

pelican is just like not in it imo

ITS NQDS

NQS

LETS GOOO

[cloud latch]

oh boy

[willow drum]

i hate colloseo

[cloud latch]

based

[willow drum]

cause u can abuse bridge

[cloud latch]

after the first 3 times I played it

[willow drum]

stall technique

[willow drum]

i hate that shitter map

[cloud latch]

I just left the game every other time

[willow drum]

this is surperior one

paraiso and colloseo

so bad

i played paraiso 2 times

i hated them all

[hot onyx]

MN3 > Heesu
ZEST = Heesang until further notice
Hanbin > Clestyn (not even the goat is better than the goated goat)
Fearless > MuZe
CH0R0NG > Bliss
Twilight currently > Vigilante

[cloud latch]

which one is paraiso

refresh my memory

[cloud latch]

fax (on the hanbin note)

[willow drum]

imo

fearless not > muze

imo i dont think mn3 is > heesu

on sojourn

[cunning patrol]

Heesu clears sadly

[willow drum]

agree

heese sj is goat

WOW

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[earnest leaf]

reiner wasting rampage

interesting

[willow drum]

where are glads

ults

?

[hot onyx]

I trust MN3 to improve his sojourn at a top level with top tier team mates without a scrap of dead weight

[earnest leaf]

no stagger picks rip

glads can just run back in

[cunning patrol]

He’s not even the sojourn player

[earnest leaf]

why does the bot move so fast with one person

[willow drum]

GENJI DIFF

[keen abyss]

because it'd be really lame if every fight turn

half the team would have to sit back

and not play the game

[vagrant cargo]

Who diffed who

[willow drum]

proper killed blading kevster

on 50 hp

in 1v1

[keen abyss]

sheathe animation

[vagrant cargo]

So glads are 0-3

Hehe

[willow drum]

not yet

[vagrant cargo]

Yes yet.

[willow drum]

imo pooluge

kilo could turn with ult

[keen abyss]

imo

they should do something about blade's sheathing animation

the worst ult in the game should not have that second of vulnerability

kills the flow of the hero

[earnest leaf]

shock finally won a fight without losing coluge

[keen abyss]

kevin so good

[earnest leaf]

viol2t hast to get beat quick

otherwise glads just beat engage and win the map

which is gonna happen I think

[willow drum]

GG EZ

18 AND 0 BABY

WOW

15-0

GG EZ

[earnest leaf]

how did glads lose that

[willow drum]

@keen abyss good team!

[earnest leaf]

gg

[willow drum]

0-3 btw

[keen abyss]

they were not ablet to confirm kills

[willow drum]

SHOCK THE WORLD

[keen abyss]

with beat engage

[willow drum]

WOOOOOH

[keen abyss]

sadly

[cloud latch]

gg

[fast tusk]

NOOO

[willow drum]

I HECKIN LOVE O2 BLAST

[hollow bough]

gg

[willow drum]

I HECKIN LOVE O2 BLAST

[fast tusk]

CMON

[mortal cipher]

Welp

[hot onyx]

Skill based meta

btw

[restive nexus]

fuck i hate this meta

[willow drum]

cope

cope

cope

cope

[earnest leaf]

super close though

[willow drum]

cope

cope

[thorn dirge]

LMAOOO

[tidal marsh]

o2 blast are the new runaways

[fast tusk]

^^^^^^^

[willow drum]

kevster did multiple stinkers

(he lost a 1v1 to 50 hp proper with blade)

[earnest leaf]

kevster blades usually clean up fights

[restive nexus]

JQ is the most bs character on earth

[willow drum]

(got picked off by kilo while blading)

[tidal marsh]

i will not elaborate

[earnest leaf]

proper blades usually start fights or get a first pick

[keen abyss]

died during sheathing animation

bad hero design

[willow drum]

cope!

kevster not a mvp

[molten portal]

thats been in the game for 6 years

[keen abyss]

kevster > proper this series

imo

[tiny pollen]

Proper mvp

[cloud latch]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[tidal marsh]

nah reiner mvp

[hot onyx]

Viol2t > FiXa

[cloud latch]

no way viol2t gets potm

[tiny pollen]

Violet > astro

[restive nexus]

Happy and Glads have no synergy yet lmao. its way more close than it should have tbh

[willow drum]

no shit

[keen abyss]

please stop speaking

you make us look abd

[willow drum]

he deserves it

he diffed astro

on ult %

taht entire game

[hot onyx]

Minki “solo beats on pariso” Park

[willow drum]

fastro beated

in a 5v2

when proper had blade

your point ?

[stuck radish]

Gladiator is finished

[keen abyss]

i do no t think that is what happened

[willow drum]

maybe 5v3

[hot onyx]

Proper is scary

[twin bloom]

Kevster>proper

[willow drum]

idk

[keen abyss]

i thought it was 5v4

[hot onyx]

Securing fight win > solo beat and feed

[willow drum]

not the case imo

[keen abyss]

when they were about to lose a big member

[willow drum]

it was 5v3

when they were abt to trade

one of their members

[tidal marsh]

i mean shock can go lossless in regular season but there is no doubt they'll choke in playoffs

[willow drum]

no?

[cunning patrol]

U think so?

[willow drum]

you are coping

[tiny pollen]

I hope Toronto beats glads

[willow drum]

they didnt choke in stage 2 imo

[tiny pollen]

Glads no tourney

[willow drum]

people had them 3th to 4th

[tidal marsh]

cope = kickoff clash + midseason madness

[willow drum]

you predicted glads

[molten portal]

how is coming 2nd choking

[willow drum]

silly billy!

[willow drum]

he is coping

all shock haters are right now

[keen abyss]

winning winners finals

[willow drum]

they didnt choke

??

glads choked

[keen abyss]

then going down 3-0 to the same team you beat in winners finals

[willow drum]

winner finals

[keen abyss]

is choking

[willow drum]

they did not

glads played ass

winner finals

imo

[twin bloom]

Yes

[hot onyx]

It would be funny if Shocks only title this year came from the unskilled meta of self sustain and dice rolls

[restive nexus]

yeah glads just did bad in wf

[twin bloom]

This meta

Is just shit

Also

Glads played good

[keen abyss]

and shock played ass

in grands

[twin bloom]

Shock are the best

Team

[keen abyss]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa6QKaExExB_YRXaJxJrF7hWVxL1EIdQk

[twin bloom]

Rn

[keen abyss]

they did not choke

i promise they did not choke

[hot onyx]

Shock when the meta requires skill “they cannot win”

[keen abyss]

every map this series

[hot onyx]

No Rascal no win sadly

[keen abyss]

was very close

besides the one that shock lost

[molten portal]

yet glads still lose

[restive nexus]

true true

[twin bloom]

Glads win owl

[wicked pendant]

Hol up

[twin bloom]

Shock go 24-0

[keen abyss]

shock are invincible

in regular season

[twin bloom]

Atl get 3rd

[keen abyss]

they choke tourney

[wicked pendant]

London swept Outlaws? Wild

[tidal marsh]

@twin bloom sounds right

[twin bloom]

After finishing

12-12

In the regular szn

Fuel are irrelevant

[hot onyx]

Shouldn’t Fusion be 2nd

[twin bloom]

Shock glads ATL

Will be top 3

[hot onyx]

I know

[twin bloom]

In no particular

[restive nexus]

worst meta ever rn tbh

[twin bloom]

Order

[hot onyx]

But second place funny

[twin bloom]

Not in this meta

Tho

Atl and glads

Both seem done

Even tho glads looked

Good

[tidal marsh]

i miss sigma

[twin bloom]

Against shock

[restive nexus]

i miss winton :C

[static pond]

How did happy look?

[twin bloom]

Good

[cloud latch]

very good

[tidal marsh]

i miss when dva was viable

[twin bloom]

So does

Titans

[restive nexus]

I miss NO JQ

[mortal cipher]

Same

[static pond]

Dva been in like very meta lol

[hot onyx]

Glads are scheduled to play against Defiant Paris and Reign

[cloud latch]

should be eas ywins

[tidal marsh]

easy pickings

[cloud latch]

all 3-0s

[hot onyx]

Should be unless they choose to give in like most teams during the goats meta

[tidal marsh]

i can't believe we're basically back in goats meta

[keen abyss]

busan and new queen street

[stuck radish]

we won the coinflip

[keen abyss]

were both coinflip

maps

[cloud latch]

💀

[hot onyx]

I’d give up too if I had to play infinitely tedious and unfun compositions for weeks on end for a living

[keen abyss]

glads make tourney

because they do not realistically lose to any other team right now

[stuck radish]

im scared of glads come season playoffs time

[hot onyx]

Reign wouldn’t realistically lose to Defiant

[stuck radish]

because by then happy will have practiced with the team a lot

[molten portal]

it all depends if theres a stage 4 patch

[hot onyx]

Coin flip has tragic outcomes on beloved icons

And positive outcomes on the axis powers

[keen abyss]

custa basically just said what i was gonna say

[twin bloom]

Glads will

Win owl

Unless its a meta they need a projectile

And tracer

At the same time

[hot onyx]

Skewed tracer is goated I’ll have you know

[balmy wolf]

played some fortnite

the stuttering is insaneeeeeeeee

kinda unplayable for me

[twin bloom]

If echo tracer dva brig zen become meta

Reign or shock win

[willow drum]

Also btw

[fast tusk]

thats actually kinda hard to answer

ngl

[willow drum]

1.5625%

That's the chance of this Shock win happening and them going up 3 and Glads down 3

If this meta is truly a coin toss

[mortal cipher]

Here comes the memp

[hot onyx]

That’s the same chances of them winning 20 coin flips in a row?

yes it is

[twin bloom]

I am happy hydron

And majed

[fast tusk]

also custa saying those things about justice is kinda boss

[willow drum]

i think it is

[twin bloom]

Are startin

[willow drum]

akshually

the chance is much lower

[hot onyx]

Can’t wait for Shock vs Titans grand finals again throw it back

[willow drum]

since shock is actually up 4

not 3

my bad

[twin bloom]

If justice lose ever game and titans get more than 7 pts

They make playinns

Btw

[twin bloom]

Very possible

If titans make the tournament

[hot onyx]

I agree #titantheworld

[keen abyss]

season grand finals is titans 4-0 shock

[twin bloom]

Titans could go 5-1 this stage

And get an extra point

From the tournament

And end this stage with 6 pts

Lol

[willow drum]

https://twitter.com/ShockCrusty/status/1561111302671437825

Crusty (@ShockCrusty)

Why are we fine in this meta. GGs @BostonUprising @LAGladiators

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Twitter · Aug 20, 2022, 10:01 PM

Unironically

2 FS team

is #1 in 2 MS meta

[molten portal]

if florida go double fs on map 2 and 3 i give up

[twin bloom]

Boston could also lose every game

And let titans get 10th

Lol

Majed lucio

Anamo brig

Lol what

[willow drum]

???

[twin bloom]

Hydron gonna wreck decay

[fast tusk]

wait

why does justice have to where the away skins ?

[molten portal]

blizzard moment

[fast tusk]

fr

[keen abyss]

pink and blue

vs red and blue

i dont blame them

they've only done double home skins for teams with very contrasting colors

[fast tusk]

florida are mostly black tho

black skins

[keen abyss]

pink outline vs red outline

at a distance i would get them confused

[molten portal]

yeah and the other colours are blue and grey

[keen abyss]

the colors are similar enough

[molten portal]

not even close

[keen abyss]

that in a chaotic teamfight it would be hard to tell

[fast tusk]

ugh

alright that kinda makes sense

[keen abyss]

it's a nice luxury to have in like

[molten portal]

nah im sorry the fld skins are so dark

[keen abyss]

dallas vs atlanta or smth

where the red and blue clash hard

[molten portal]

the justice have lots white on

[keen abyss]

because

they are currently using away skins ?

[molten portal]

they still have white on the normal ones

[keen abyss]

not that much

florida is black pink blue

washington is red blue white with some grey/black

red and pink are the main colors

which are too close imo

[stuck radish]

colorblind people

[keen abyss]

^^ that too

[molten portal]

i mean im colourblind

and i think its ok

but the choice isnt mine

[keen abyss]

better to be safe

and not use colors with high potentials to blend together

[molten portal]

they should rework the skins next season imo

so the away arent just white

plus most of the white skins suck ass

[static pond]

I think there still white

Weren’t they in ow2 trailer?

[molten portal]

yeah but ow2 comes out in this season

so that makes sense

[static pond]

Also decay kinda rolling Florida rn

[stuck radish]

hopefully all the ow2 default skins have team colors on launch

i was disappointed to see that this stage didnt have them

[fast tusk]

bruh

[trail perch]

I was right

[molten portal]

yeah idk what theyre gonna do with the classic 2 skins

[trail perch]

justice better now then pre changes

[molten portal]

if they go double fs, justice ez win

[stuck radish]

counterpoint

sirmajed lucio

[trail perch]

counterpoint

gunba

is

always

right

would you rather anemo lucio?

Just hold S

and sometimes speed out

and never do anything

[fast tusk]

isnt lucio ms ?

[trail perch]

so is brig

dont question it

[static pond]

Pretty sure assassin has experience with genii

[trail perch]

yeah no shit

genji is his like main hero

he was known for his genji and hanzo

back on runaway

[static pond]

Ya I know

[molten portal]

lucio is a ms specific, brig is played by most fs tho

[trail perch]

mans is the third shimada

Genji

[static pond]

Idk@why they never tried his genii

[trail perch]

Hanzo

Assassin

[static pond]

Genii

I hate iPhones

[trail perch]

cause decay is decay

[willow drum]

Shock is the first team with 20 points

[trail perch]

decay likes playing genji

[willow drum]

AND A +37

MAP DIFF

WOW

[trail perch]

so he gets the genji playtime

tbh im surprised they didnt play assassin sojourn

just cause decay asked nicely to play genji

sounds like a justice move

[mortal cipher]

It Justice win my preds suck na

[trail perch]

they bout to roll out xzi genji checkmate lucio

just watch

[mortal cipher]

Wow

[trail perch]

thats upsetting

I want chadmate lucio

[molten portal]

ok they still wanna play majed lucio

gg

this is about to be a map record

[fast tusk]

ajex

[molten portal]

that was a great shot tho

[static pond]

Lmao

[molten portal]

checkmate throwing lmao

[fast tusk]

i cant believe this

i hate today

of matches

[willow tartan]

No hate. Just sad.

[fast tusk]

i dont even know what to say anymore

[molten portal]

what happened in the 1st game i fell asleep after map 1

was it a roll or was it close

[fathom igloo]

Lmao y'all said the justice are worst then Paris

[fast tusk]

i simply asked if they were

[fathom igloo]

And survay says

X

[fast tusk]

is shock having this effect

mayhem didnt take a map off them but justice did

finally mayhem play xzi

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[static pond]

Well

[mortal cipher]

Rip

[fast tusk]

i didnt get anything right today ):

[fathom igloo]

Lol y'all acted like the justice were bad

[balmy wolf]

lol justice stomped for once

[hot onyx]

I mean they most likely are

[mortal cipher]

I only got the easy snoring shock pic

[hot onyx]

Meta is just a coin flip and Justice picked tails

[fathom igloo]

JuStIcE wOnT wIn AnYtHiNg

[forest token]

they are

they’re being handed wins by a dogshit meta

and maps

this meta is so fucking braindead

[willow tartan]

They are. Only good teams are in APAC 😎

[mortal cipher]

In quick succession

[restive nexus]

What team is that?

[next mesa]

every team

valiant would diff 80% of na teams

[cloud latch]

so true bestie

[balmy wolf]

justice

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[fast tusk]

WHAT THE HELL

NO TOKENS AGAIN

[ocean basin]

tokens are not currently working but they will be caught up when its fixed.

[fast tusk]

Ok then

[hot onyx]

Valiant aren’t top 5 NA without Clestyn

[worn falcon]

who needs clestyn anyways

[buoyant jacinth]

Clestyn would make a top 5 team be bottom 5

[twin bloom]

Agree

[cunning patrol]

Cope

Because he is better than false

[twin bloom]

He isn't

Ok

Maybe he is

But not in my book

[cunning patrol]

Ok

Respect

[willow drum]

clestyn is overrated

his JQ not the greatest

max better on sigma no cappa

[split flume]

shock

[north relic]

not tested

havent played real teams

like dallas and titans

[split flume]

real

[fathom igloo]

Justice stocks a new time high today for the low low price of 10000 OW credits you can buy some

[split flume]

so it's pretty clear now that shu is glads' MVP right

above kevster

and reiner

[full lichen]

No

Kevster has put the Glads on his big fucking back

Shu is tied with Reiner

For 2nd

[split flume]

when shu can't be in on a flex support glads go 0-3

anyway viol2t diffed fastro today

[fathom igloo]

the justice are just better without happy

[earnest leaf]

shu is easily above reiner for team mvp

[trim shadow]

What the fuck happened to houston?

[split flume]

pelican boomed because his best friend isn't good enough to be a starter

and because pelican is boomed whole team is boomed

[tiny pollen]

backbone clears you mean

[trim shadow]

Dont tell me houston is about todo houston things

Dropping games when its not the time to be loosing

[keen cargo]

who did the glads trade for happy?

i remember seeing it but i forgot where it was

[split flume]

https://twitter.com/ow_proper/status/1561207431648010240?s=21&t=MkUQj7RlyBgAjJFcpqhk1g

Proper (@Ow_Proper)

Someone steal my shake shack burger,im ganna retired and i'll be a streamer like super gg

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Twitter · Aug 21, 2022, 4:23 AM

gg

[earnest leaf]

fucking kilo

smh

[next mesa]

i bet it's halo's bitch on god

[vagrant cargo]

Thoughts on hydron getting diffed by decaca on sojourn @twin bloom

[twin bloom]

Idk

Irrelevant

Game

Ow 2

Lack of practice

Effecting goats

Sadly

[novel owl]

havent checked owl for a while but

why did they put shu on dps when hes god like on sup

[earnest leaf]

pati has a wrist injury so they needed someone to play sojourn, it seems in scrims or something shu on sojourn was a better option than ans

But they now have happy so shu is just perma benched

And he's perma benched because brig lucio is meta and skewed/fastro are better at them

[split flume]

shu benched glads lose

coincidence?

[full lichen]

Imagine if Kevster was benched and Ans/Happy had to play

Because of Pati injury

[earnest leaf]

would not be great

because idk how good either of their genjis are

[split flume]

i mean glads backline should be made of adamantium in this meta but

[earnest leaf]

fastro's best lucio play can't really be shown off in this meta

[split flume]

all i know is viol2t > fastro

[earnest leaf]

maybe viol2t lucio will get respect one day

[split flume]

most flexible support player in the world

[novel owl]

so i was right when i said jq will be a meta when beta was around, and nobody believed in me wtff

[stuck radish]

to be fair nobody expected brig lucio to be meta

[forest token]

all of contenders was JQ

I thought the moira was a straight upgrade to the brig/lucio but they also Removed Moira™️

[latent sable]

moira was for teams that couldn't play brig

but brig is just better

[forest token]

who the fuck can’t play brig

the fuck

brig is way more fucking braindead

moira made everyone so much more unkillable and was harder to pin down herself

brig just shits cc

[latent sable]

not ow2 brig

the way brig works in jq comp is that everyone looks at her

if she walks up too far she dies

if she gets swung on by jq she dies

there's surprisingly a lot to keep track of when u play brig

i feel like people seriously underestimate how difficult brig actually is at a high level lol

[final musk]

It is all relative. Still would rather see brig zen fending off dives.

[latent sable]

jq is definitely very boring to watch

[left bluff]

I feel that Valiant and Fusion will win today

[split flume]

charge

where seoul v shanghai

[digital grotto]

What was build was midseason madness on?

1.25?

[latent sable]

no clue

[digital grotto]

Because now its on the full game right?

[left bluff]

Seems they are using same build from Beta 2 because the frequent lags and freeze occured

Especially yesterday's Hangzhou vs Shanghai

I experienced frequent lags and freeze during second beta so they are using same Beta 2 build with Moira reverts

[split flume]

i want shock v dallas

NOW

[latent sable]

actually they're using OPR patch

[digital grotto]

Oh okay, thanks

[latent sable]

it runs on a different patch than beta 2

[left bluff]

Yeah with Moira revert patch

[latent sable]

there are slight tweaks with jq shout and zen hp

and moira revert

[left bluff]

But the lags and freeze issue are happening on stream so I guess build is based on OW2 Beta 2

[latent sable]

for some reason they can't fix jq shout bug

well yea

the game is still beta build

it's just on a different balance patch

[left bluff]

They really should fix the issue related to stutters and freezes on their build

It is very annoying as viewer

And I am still surprised how could this issue still didn't fixed properly even their own build

I hope league token issue can be fixed on monday

We all didn't received token yesterday

And probably this issue still haven't been fixed

[cunning patrol]

Happy is a goat on genji

[left bluff]

Here we go, round 1

Valiant losing? This was unexpected

Maybe I might've underestimated the Charge

[sullen berry]

Charge has been in a bit of a mess of their own against the Valiant

the good news is, your pickems are unsafe

let's see it go to map 4

[left bluff]

I didn't pickem but I predicted myself who will win because pickem is unavailable on my country

[left bluff]

'Defend Objective A'? Is the game bugged

[hollow bough]

snooze meta

im not even finishing the map

[devout path]

Imagine underestimating xerneas

And farway

For diya JQ

The hitscan

Xerneas farway would be one of the best theoretical backlines last season

[humble yarrow]

Why does Chrong and Shu look so similar

[devout path]

Cuz they were on the same team s3

[humble yarrow]

That's the reason they look like the same person?

[devout path]

Maybe

[humble yarrow]

There is blonde shu and brunette shu

There is no Chrong

[devout path]

I don’t see how they look similar

[humble yarrow]

Idk it might just be me

[devout path]

It is just you

[left bluff]

Wow Valiant is really good at gamemode which is not A/D

[humble yarrow]

Just keep in mind they are going against the charge

[left bluff]

Btw Blizzard stated that there will be more gamemodes for PvP on OW2... Then will there be gamemode rotation for OWL and OWC in the future?

Since it is first 3 to win

[humble yarrow]

Probably like how they rotate how push or control is the first map

[hot onyx]

Come on Guangzhou Charge

Win the coin flip

[left bluff]

???? Valiant what do you think you're doing

Why are ya running lol

Pharah? That's rare

Nice my prediction was broken

[hot onyx]

YYYYYREEEAH

#chargetheworld

[left bluff]

I expected they can't win anyways lol

[mortal cipher]

Rip

[humble yarrow]

Who was the other team the charge beat?

Was it like the hunters or somthing?

[hot onyx]

also Valiant

[humble yarrow]

Oh lmao

[hot onyx]

Guangzhou are now the Anti Valiant Defence Mechanism

[humble yarrow]

I mean most teams are anti valiant

[hot onyx]

Yes but Charge specialise in Valiant

Just like they specialised in NYXL last season

[left bluff]

Fun fact: Guangzhou is the only team in APAC who have active Academy team (Ultra Prime Academy)

Most of academy team was disbanded or inactive and there is not many of them

[humble yarrow]

I didn't see the APAC at first I was gonna say uprising academy

[hot onyx]

T1

[left bluff]

Oh wait there's T1

I forgot 😂

[humble yarrow]

When you state facts do your research first

[left bluff]

Well if I change the term to china region instead of APAC then it becomes correct answer

[sullen berry]

and you mean to forget Bilibili for Hangzhou

[left bluff]

🤦‍♂️

BLG did not participate this contenders btw

[hot onyx]

Last I checked I haven’t seen BLG play in CN Contenders

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1561317626516742144

Guangzhou Charge (@GZCharge)

What an incredible performance today from our new hitscan @JimmyEn_ow. Clutch multi-kills, crazy opening picks, he was a force to be reckoned with on Sojourn!

Welcome back to the league, King Jimmy! ⚡️💪

Twitter · Aug 21, 2022, 11:41 AM

lowkey

[devout path]

Xerneas is the goat

[sullen berry]

we need more mvp graphics from other teams

hey addi

remember people underestimating the impact of Xerneas on main?

[left bluff]

Yes they are considered inactive at the moment

[devout path]

No one with a brain underestimated xerneas

[humble yarrow]

I mean titans have an MVP graphic

[cunning patrol]

@twin bloom thoughts??!!

[sullen berry]

No one with a brain has even posted any of the updates during rosterapocalypse in e-d announcements

I'm not paid enough to care that someone still hasn't because there's so many

[devout path]

The lowest people were with xerneas should’ve been skeptical

[left bluff]

Team CC is also inactive

Did not participate on china contenders

[sullen berry]

Did Team CC cite any reason for becoming inactive this B-side contenders?

[left bluff]

There is no rosters to participate

[devout path]

The reason is ow is dead

[sullen berry]

and VCT is a pyramid scheme, what else is new

[left bluff]

So it is considered as inactive

[devout path]

At least vct lets tier 2 teams play in tier 1

[left bluff]

Actually all remaining rosters from Team CC moved to Hangzhou Spark

So no one remains

[sullen berry]

So you're telling me we can get more teams and players participating

[devout path]

Owl still more of a scam than vct

[sullen berry]

If we just make OWL a pyramid sche E from the top

The people I work closely with know this and deny it publicly

[devout path]

Around 14 tier 1 teams in 3 regions

[sullen berry]

Because nothing screams undermining your revenue by simply complaining about it like in NA teams

[devout path]

So 42 tier 1 teams compared to owl with its like 20

[left bluff]

Yes keeping the teams from Contenders instead of moving the roster to OWL

OWL and OWC needs to be changed

[devout path]

There is nothing to change the esport is gone

[humble yarrow]

I'm just here for the tokens

[devout path]

The only way owl is saved is if ow2 has the best opening week ever

[left bluff]

How are you so sure, they are releasing OW2 later this October

[devout path]

Have you seen any of the reports

[left bluff]

Will you say that esports is dead even many of team participate in Contenders after OW2 release

[sullen berry]

Addi very few regulars here believe OWL should continue the way it is being run rn. Can't get sponsors, won't have new ones, and is built fundamentally by the wrong building blocks to try make esports mainstream

[devout path]

All the orgs are cutting money from owl

[sullen berry]

That's why I love following a dumpster fire

[humble yarrow]

Ow2 comes out on Oct 4

[devout path]

Doesn’t matter if the orgs won’t fund the teams

[sullen berry]

Countdown cup still happens during OWL

[humble yarrow]

So idk if owl will still be going on

[left bluff]

Yeah you're right OWL lost many sponsors

[sullen berry]

Look at the schedule, OWL keeps going until finals this year @humble yarrow

[devout path]

Valiant has no budget nyxl has no budget titans has no budget Chengdu has no budget Washington lost a lot of their budget

[sullen berry]

The reason esports can thrive is with non-endemic sponsors like Toyota, business who have no beef with competitive gaming

[left bluff]

Microsoft is going to acquire Blizzard anyways, sponsors no longer matter because they get funds for managing the esports from Microsoft

[devout path]

Microsoft won’t fund owl

[sullen berry]

Microsoft will make OWL product even more budget

[left bluff]

Yes

[sullen berry]

"OwO"

[devout path]

They will kill it

[left bluff]

So it is less likely dead if they succeesfully acquires OWL

[devout path]

It’s not gonna be profitable for them to invest into it

[sullen berry]

They are providing money for esports advertising the same way you and I aren't busy watching Halo Championship Series hosted by Puckett

Hell I didn't even know he was back in Halo

[humble yarrow]

Microsoft sponsors London spitfire but Idk if they will ever sponsor the whole league

[sullen berry]

Until two months ago where I beat him at Rock Paper scissors irl

[devout path]

Is he bad at rps

[sullen berry]

That my friend would be a conflict of interest. Microsoft can't own the league but they can keep their sponsorship with London Spitfire, but even that's a stretch

[sullen berry]

He only put me up against his Co Caster so yes

[devout path]

Microsoft won’t care about owl

I wonder how many years the orgs paid to be in owl

[cunning patrol]

Wasn’t it 5

[devout path]

so what does that mean this is potentially the last season for most teams

[cunning patrol]

I thought this was supposed to be the last which is why they went to ow2

In hopes to revive it

[sullen berry]

have you read the Jacob wolf article

[devout path]

Since when was that pillar there

I feel so bad for Chengdu

They theoretically should’ve been one of the best teams

This season

[sullen berry]

In Jacob's words, they've been told "Until we figure out how to make money together, you owe us nothing."

https://www.jacobwolf.report/p/overwatch-league-teams-prepare-for

Harsh words

[left bluff]

So sad, I hope financial issue can be fixed for OWL

[sullen berry]

For a product that could build a sustainable path to profitability

Cash prizes for OWL aren't exactly competitive across other esports with the same amount of resources

[wicked pendant]

God this meta is such a snoozefest that the introduction of a Pharah and Echo makes it so much better.

[vagrant jacinth]

Been hoping for ages that the league would sort the money problem out

[left bluff]

Pharah is rare to be selected, today is Pharah day lol

Wow Chengdu

[vagrant jacinth]

Just apac things

[devout path]

Owl won’t make money

[wicked pendant]

Poor Zest

[sullen berry]

Tridd self-censoring himself

amazing shutdown by Leave

and then they just stack ults

[humble yarrow]

2021 MVP right there

[sullen berry]

in another dimesntion this weekend was 0-2 for Philly

[hot onyx]

Little bit difficult to win with the worst JQ and support line in apac

[vagrant jacinth]

Lol

[sullen berry]

Fixa's POV is a literal window into their coaching midmatch

[willow drum]

leave not winning mvp this year

its a shame

[sullen berry]

it's not too late

but most likely, he's out

[humble yarrow]

Can a rookie win MVP or just rookie of the year

[hot onyx]

Frees up MVP for a deserving candidate like Although

[sullen berry]

Heesu pink guy and the one guy who hasn't got a role star on shanghai

[cunning patrol]

#real

[willow drum]

yes they can

[sullen berry]

aside from Glads and Shock, there's nobody else I'd put up for MVP besides masaa lucio

[devout path]

They can but they won’t

[willow drum]

peli was nominated last year

how many people r nominated each year?

10

?

[sullen berry]

69