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willow drum
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no

velvet kindle
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Also funny how brig is back in a meta kekw

split flume
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Sadiators

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Sadiators

earnest leaf
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Reiner has a point

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All these top teams instantly struggling from one new meta

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Despite the past two metas they were strong

cunning patrol
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Cuz they are bad.

earnest leaf
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Mickey mouse meta

twin bloom
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Also ATL were never bad enough

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To lose

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To da BOSTON UPRISING

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In a high skill meta

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They only lost to good teams

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Imho

cunning patrol
full lichen
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Ngl, Shock vs Mayhem is gonna be exciting to see

twin bloom
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Will beat shock

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Tomorrow

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Because of the low skill meta

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Sadly

cunning patrol
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Shock are regular season

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Prodigies

tawdry hamlet
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Nyxl really the definition of mid

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Also I figured lep would make it eventually

worn falcon
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deleted account tracerkek

forest token
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wait reiner deleted?

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anyway

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if what he said is this meta is cringe and stupid then he is correct

earnest leaf
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"impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill metadont even call this salty cause its legitmately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to" was the tweet

forest token
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that is

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extremely true

earnest leaf
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people think reiner is in the wrong

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and that's he's just salty the meta changed

forest token
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lmfao

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glads and shock were so fucking far ahead of every single other team in the league

earnest leaf
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Can't wait for charge and valiant to take series away from seoul and shit

forest token
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I want to like

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actually go through and analyze the meta

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but it's so fucking stupid and braindead I don't want to

earnest leaf
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Basically the support/tank imo remove a lot of room for individual pop off to switch the pace of the game

forest token
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I mean

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you're stacking brig/lucio heals

earnest leaf
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And the nature of those supports don't let the dps pop off nearly as much as well

forest token
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with no actual utility besides two 4s boops and a 7s boop

earnest leaf
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So teams with players like fucking proper/kevster are struggling

forest token
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I don't even think it's JQ's fault that much

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fucking brig/lucio is just so absurdly dumb

earnest leaf
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her shout is the only reason this meta is a thing imo

forest token
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true

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and as far as I can tell largely for the speedboost

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though shout is 50% longer than I thought it was

earnest leaf
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I'd say the hp is the bigger issue

forest token
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so it decays much, much slower

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oh and the shout bug

earnest leaf
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what is it, 200 or 150 to JQ, 100 to teammates?

forest token
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the shout bug is stupid as shit

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200 to JQ 100 to teammates

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decaying over 6s

earnest leaf
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I heckin love 350 hp brig

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can live 3 blade slashes and dash assuming inspire goes off

forest token
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shitting healing everywhere and just cycling boops is so fucking dumb

keen abyss
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they just spent so long

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removing overhp

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like torb armor packs

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shield generator

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repair pack giving armor

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and some of the ehp given by rally (an ultimate)

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just to make a new hero with a cd that isntantly gives everyone around her

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100 ehp

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and now that feature is extremely busted creating a terrible meta

balmy wolf
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it should have a longer cooldown

keen abyss
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reiner reactivated his twitter account

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just to complain about the meta

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then instantly deleted it again

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so based

willow drum
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danteh talking smack but

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he got rev swept by nyxl

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Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

devout path
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Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

north relic
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Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

willow tartan
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If no skill then why lose 2 instead of win 1 lose 1 otGalaxyBrain

lost ruin
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I didn't receive any tokens wtfff

cloud latch
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Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

candid radish
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Fuck happened to glads

keen abyss
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pati wrist injury is apart of it

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so ans is having to pick up his slack

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i don't know if that is a major factor or if there is more to it

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shu also not able to play this meta

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so 2 of your main starters are not in play

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so even though on paper you have a top 2 player of every hero but hitscan

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and junker queen i guess even though reiner was predicted to be good at the hero

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though it may be a bit early to call that he isn't good at jq i didn't see the match

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i think

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glads will be able to bounce back

twin bloom
candid radish
# twin bloom Low skill meta

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

twin bloom
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Disagree

candid radish
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I wonder where that copy pasta came from tbh

twin bloom
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Its on reddit

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I just saw

candid radish
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But I do think this JQ is a bit too easy at high level

twin bloom
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Their isn't a good JQ

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In owl

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Rn

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Lol

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They all suck

candid radish
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Someone said earlier about the amour packs

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I think it’s more bleed+no healing

sullen berry
# willow drum he got rev swept by nyxl

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

twin bloom
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One of the 7 flex dps can be a good brig

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And JQ

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Or maybe sasin

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Can be the goat jq

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But it doesn't matter who is good

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Because the meta erases all skill gap between teams

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Sad!

candid radish
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Just saw backbone on bastion

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I will now watch the dorado VOD

sullen berry
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That spitfire game was wack

tiny pollen
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mikey traded to justice for mag

twin bloom
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Downgrade

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Mag is the mickie of JQ

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Will be overtaken

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Once good tanks learn the champ

tiny pollen
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shock need a better mt player and mag with actual coaches would go crazy mode

twin bloom
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Sup7me is a good coach

tiny pollen
twin bloom
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And mikeyy is the goat

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Imo

tiny pollen
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mikeys not bad

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hes great

twin bloom
tiny pollen
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but i want shock to win things 😭

twin bloom
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Mikeyy is championship caliber imo

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In fact shock

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Prolly would have won last stage

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Had s9mm not thrown map 1

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And viol2t thrown dorado

tiny pollen
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violet for opener

twin bloom
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Also a downgrade

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Imo

tiny pollen
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ye

twin bloom
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Shock get bliss next year

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Its good

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If they desperately need a MS rn Joby is always available

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Imo

tiny pollen
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mikeyy for carrot_ow

twin bloom
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Shock might be able to get dridro soon

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If the rumors are true

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Lol

tiny pollen
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that would be a mssive L

twin bloom
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Dridro is good

tiny pollen
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wait waht rumors about dridro

twin bloom
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Paris is just a shitshow

twin bloom
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Idk if it is true

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Tho

tiny pollen
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theyd have to pick up a whole new roster in 4 days

tropic herald
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Kaan to Florida

twin bloom
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It might be next season

tiny pollen
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prob next season

twin bloom
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Idk

tiny pollen
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thats why im lowkey doubting the washington rumors

tropic herald
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Never doubt the Justice

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Except when it comes to winning games

vagrant cargo
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Did reiner fr deactivate Twitter

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Lmfaooooo

split flume
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idk why everyone getting on reiner for deactivating his twitter

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he deactivated it after glads won the KC

tiny pollen
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^

keen abyss
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reactivated it for a few hours just to complain about jq meta gigabased

willow tartan
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good for him honestly

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twitter causes brain damage

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(still L + cope though)

balmy wolf
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Aspire is like last years Naga do u peeps agree

keen abyss
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so watch who you mess with idiot 👿

willow tartan
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why would i care about how reiner performs on a "broken gigabusted noskill hero"?

tidal marsh
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Joats sucks mannn

molten cave
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Aspire has been rolling since day 1, he has shown insane talent and its just sad that he hasn't gotten a real chance fo win

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Also jq meta is genuinely the worst meta I have every seen. Like I genuinely can't spot anything positive about it compared to previous metas, even double shield had funny moments with Bastion n stuff mane.

molten cave
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I'm not even a fan of any of the teams that are "falling off" bc of it, I just hate watching it be played

hot onyx
willow tartan
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you guys are just too sheltered

molten cave
willow tartan
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World of tanks meta

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Watching that shit made me want to blow my brains out

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Moth meta

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Applicable above

keen abyss
willow tartan
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they won't

molten cave
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Moth at least had skill and impact from the dps role, and slambulance might be more boring but even then the fights at least weren't 2.5 mins of neutral

willow tartan
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Anyone who unironically thinks moth meta is good is fucking delusional sorry

molten cave
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Moth meta wasn't good but I think it was better than this

fathom igloo
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Remember last season with the sym meta

molten cave
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Sym rush is fun af to play

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Idc

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And fights were much faster and had more skill at the tank and support positions

willow tartan
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6 man rush June joust zzzzzzz

molten cave
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Bruh that was such a fun Mets to play too 😭

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And more watchable

north relic
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2.5 neutral was a special case

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its not like eevery fight has been 2.5 minutes of neutral

keen abyss
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#EverUpward

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NYXL for summer showdown champions

north relic
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true

candid radish
# molten cave Also jq meta is genuinely the worst meta I have every seen. Like I genuinely can...

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

split flume
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yeah im not readin all that

candid radish
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I’ll be honest

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Neither have I

north relic
# split flume yeah im not readin all that

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

split flume
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yeah im not readin all that

fathom igloo
# split flume yeah im not readin all that

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

willow tartan
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I friggin love the Shanghai Dragons

hot onyx
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Today is Sunday August 14th

split flume
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no its monday 15th august

devout path
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Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

trim shadow
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Bruh like

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If houston lost to gladiators

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They should disband

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Like thats it season over wrap it up everyone go on vacation

keen abyss
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friendly reminder that there were more American tornado players in the top 3 of the international tournament than Korean contenders rookies

willow drum
# trim shadow They should disband

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

balmy wolf
# willow tartan Wrong statement

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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2,500

lost thicket
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glads v shock glads v fuel shock v justice

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those are some team rivalries cause for example

balmy wolf
willow tartan
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Soul shards

balmy wolf
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hmmm

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no deal

lost thicket
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shock/justice has a similar style of fighting which caused legit all last 4 matchups to be map 5s

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moth would be perfect for this meta

balmy wolf
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so would any ms

twin bloom
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Gotta let moth go

lost thicket
# balmy wolf so would any ms

I mean yeah ms is must have but just saying moths shotcalling style is what seems to be the best kind of lucio for this meta ig

twin bloom
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Joobi better

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Imo

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Moth would have also been benched for jake brig

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Imo

lost thicket
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there's like two types of lucios, fastro/moth, both shotcall but one is more aggro and the other is more teamwide

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JOATs is like GOATs just more neutral fight wins and yeah

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idk if I like it more or less then goats in terms of peaks

cunning patrol
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Joats is low skill

devout path
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Joats

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Jjonak goats

tulip tulip
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JOATS is goats with less sustain and more killing

devout path
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Rip

raw ermine
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yikes

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shits going down

tropic herald
twin bloom
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Damn

lost thicket
twin bloom
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Also pelican

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Screwed

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Lmao

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Shoulda stayed on ATL

tropic herald
devout path
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sad!

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houston is done

worn falcon
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Pelican done

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Gotta put coach player Jake instead Pelican

tropic herald
balmy wolf
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i think piggy wasnt happy with so little play time, that or the outlaws didnt want to spend on a player that barely played. Poor piggy

full lichen
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Ngl, I think Florida can beat shock 3-2 today if Checkmate plays how he did against London and if Shock play Lucio Brig

cunning patrol
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Maybe he should have gotten better

balmy wolf
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stupid decision from outlaws, piggy was so wholesome

proper vigil
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What happened with piggy

worn falcon
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Send piggy to Philly

lost thicket
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True

candid radish
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Piggy’s been sacked

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I blame danteh

worn falcon
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Junbuck

tropic herald
worn falcon
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Piggyback dropped

molten portal
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its time for the most anticipated match of the season

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if kai has signed for someone else

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atl are boomed

balmy wolf
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kai gonna carry some1 else

stuck radish
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kai to shock

worn falcon
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Nah

molten portal
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shock already have kilo

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wow matt is here

mortal cipher
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This standing look photoshopped

trim shadow
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Replacing piggy with Doge?

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Strange

mortal cipher
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Yeah a bit odd

next mesa
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Pelican is leaving as well

molten portal
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houston have houstonabled their roster

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somehow

mortal cipher
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Right after they got a win against glads after 2 years

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But in defense even when he was on he barely won a map so I can see why but it still hurts to see

balmy wolf
mortal cipher
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Yeah

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It seems that wot they are doing

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In defense piggy had struggled semi

plush grail
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Seeing Mr X's full body is fucking weird

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I'm used to seeing his face

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He's not supposed to have a body

mortal cipher
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Fr

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First time seeing his whole body not half to the torso

balmy wolf
cedar oasis
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paris gonna get stomped

balmy wolf
earnest leaf
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wouldn't say that's a guarantee for him leaving

full lichen
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Titans gonna win today

balmy wolf
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seems like theres gonna be some internal issues in outlaws regardless, they should have waited for the end of the stage tho

twin bloom
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It is depressing how titans first win

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Will be against paris

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In this meta

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Lol

mortal cipher
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Lol

sullen berry
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Found leaked footage of Ian at the gym speaking Chinese https://youtu.be/K7I-En-6q5g

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hot onyx
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Today is where history is made @plush grail

tropic herald
earnest leaf
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brig is the easiest person to kill in this comp

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wonder when people will learn that and not flame brig players for it

hot onyx
full lichen
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Aspire is too good for the Titans smh

mortal cipher
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Fr

full lichen
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Aspire is the only carry on the team (Except for Maybe Masaa and Aztac on Zen)

idle beacon
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where is the female host from the last tournament?

full lichen
idle beacon
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was she there yday?

sullen berry
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She was only a guest for Midseason Madness

sullen berry
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Masaa the true carry

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Mirror the underrated tank player

twin bloom
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Aspire k1ng(when he is not choking) false on OT and aztac zen all better than masaa

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Imo

full lichen
sullen berry
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Until he can figure out when he team wants to synergize with him and not the other way round

twin bloom
mortal cipher
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If Paris win I swear

sullen berry
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Imagine a main support holding the team hostage instead of a dps carry

full lichen
twin bloom
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On ATL

full lichen
twin bloom
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Gator was good on his 2 plays

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Masaa was mid

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On lucio

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Which was his best hero

full lichen
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Still, Masaa is good, he's just on the titans

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And, with Dpei as his coach, he's gonna be good

twin bloom
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Dridro better

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Than masaa

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And has looked decent

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On a shit team

full lichen
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Dridro is a pretty good lucio

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Dridro Dove Wub will stay for 2023

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Paris needs a better Flex support and tank(s)

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I preded Titans win 3-1

twin bloom
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Lol

full lichen
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Kaan tho

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I can see Kaan maybe staying, but I think it would be a situation like Mayhem's support line

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That wasn't overwatch, that was a slaughter

stuck radish
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vancouver about to 200-0 paris on this map

twin bloom
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Just like last year

full lichen
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Ngl, K1ng, Aspire, Aztac and Maybe Mirror and Masaa will stay

twin bloom
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If mirror stays

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Thats just

earnest leaf
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man

twin bloom
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Nepotism

full lichen
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False is not gonna get a 2nd shot in OWL unless it's on Boston or Paris

twin bloom
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Lol

earnest leaf
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if you're losing, your JQ cannot build ult at all

twin bloom
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They prolly release everyone

stuck radish
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paris won a fight

twin bloom
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But k1ng and aspire

stuck radish
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yo

twin bloom
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Maybe Dpei gives a goat like false

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Another shot

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With ow 2 ranked

full lichen
twin bloom
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Gets benched for skairipa

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Of zen

candid radish
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Which cunt at blizzard thought the white name tags on the white player icons of the titans was a good idea

twin bloom
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To often

plush grail
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Can we just ditch dove and wub and get Naga onigod back so I can at least root for players I like

molten portal
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aztac only has 4 map wins in owl

full lichen
candid radish
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Not even me needing to watch on 240 this time like

twin bloom
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But false for OW 2

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Is also

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Very unflexible

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Sadly

full lichen
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False not getting resigned

molten portal
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titans look good

plush grail
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I don't understand when people say dove and wub are the best on the team

molten portal
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but paris look ass

plush grail
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These DPS are fucking ass

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These mfs

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0 picks

stuck radish
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wub is a perfectly good replacement for naga wym

full lichen
plush grail
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Wub is fucking ass

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So is dove

brave zenith
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paris needs a roster change

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asap

twin bloom
twin bloom
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And dove still carried

candid radish
twin bloom
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In their one

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Win

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Of the szn

molten portal
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if paris go to vegas theyll probably get a whole new roster anyway

plush grail
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Jmac probably dropped onigod because he wanted his old pal glister, from there it all went to shit

candid radish
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Honestly can’t wait for paris to leave the league

wicked pendant
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Jesus Christ, just started watching Shock vs. Justice on Colosseo

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What is this

candid radish
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Joats

wicked pendant
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It's awful

worn falcon
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Watching chess would be more fun than this meta

mortal cipher
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Tru

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In chess something at least does

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Die

full lichen
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Vestola is also ass

twin bloom
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Vestola has actually looked decent before this

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On sig and zarya

plush grail
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WUB IS LEGIT INSIDE ASPIRE

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AND STILL DOES NOT GET THE KILL

twin bloom
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London should sign vestola and kaan

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Tbh

plush grail
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Wub is so fucking BAD

cunning patrol
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@twin bloom today is the day

full lichen
twin bloom
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Way to win

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Lmao

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But

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A win

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Is a win

full lichen
dreamy cave
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Guys titans win this

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Actually EZ match

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Free

full lichen
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Ngl, I preded 3-1

dreamy cave
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Same

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Eternal going down the ladder. I love it

wicked pendant
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Will Titans finally get a W?

dreamy cave
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Yes

wicked pendant
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I want to believe

plush grail
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Wub and dove have to be wintrading

dreamy cave
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It's titans after the time skip

wicked pendant
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Dpei Titans

worn falcon
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dpei diff

twin bloom
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Lol xd

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But those

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Are just

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Rumors

full lichen
wicked pendant
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Aspire just beaming people down for free lmao

dreamy cave
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Actually EZ

cunning patrol
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Imo

stuck radish
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wub currently has 0 dragonblade kills

dreamy cave
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guys the breadsticks are here

twin bloom
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Its ok

cunning patrol
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That makes it

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Not ok

stuck radish
cunning patrol
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Imo

wicked pendant
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Mirror talking up a fucking storm on the facecams

twin bloom
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My bad

cunning patrol
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I am saving u

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From #drama

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Imo

twin bloom
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Ok

cunning patrol
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@twin bloom what’s score

plush grail
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Tbh just play fucking rein rush at this point, Paris is so bad at this comp

hot onyx
twin bloom
stuck radish
twin bloom
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Its not close

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At all

cunning patrol
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Solid

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To hear

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#eulose

wicked pendant
twin bloom
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@cunning patrol I was obviously referring to kaans ingame performance

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Imo

worn falcon
stuck radish
cunning patrol
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Agreed

cunning patrol
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Better than Wubley

twin bloom
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Lol

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Its fine

mortal cipher
cunning patrol
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Not me

dreamy cave
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Guys their hacking

plush grail
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Why is my team like this

stuck radish
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holy shit

plush grail
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Don't give me hope

stuck radish
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wub got a blade kill

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it happened

wicked pendant
dreamy cave
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Tell them to turn the cheats off

full lichen
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Ngl, Paris coaching sucks

twin bloom
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Wub is unironically

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Paris best player

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Rn

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Lmao

wicked pendant
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And the moment you say that

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He gets railgunned

twin bloom
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The whole team

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Is getting stomped

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Wub is getting stomped the least

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Imo

ember turret
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Dove is getting stomped the most

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imo

plush grail
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Wub is legit ass

tropic herald
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kaan

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is making aztac look like a competent brig

twin bloom
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Kaan is the worst

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Playrr

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Rn

wicked pendant
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KAAN thinking he's playing launch Brig

twin bloom
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Lmao

candid radish
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Ian your team is wank

twin bloom
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Wub has been doing solid

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Imo

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Maybe solid

plush grail
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U legit can't claim wub is good when he's legit doing nothing

twin bloom
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Is to much praise

hot onyx
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@plush grail i spy with my little eye something beginning with “T”

twin bloom
dreamy cave
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They stopped the bleeding and beat them

twin bloom
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Out of everyone

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On paris

brave zenith
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HOLY SHIT

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TITANS W

worn falcon
wicked pendant
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Man, s9mm is pretty angry on the twitter, huh?

worn falcon
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no, thats reiner

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deactivated acc

brave zenith
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after a loss?

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LMAO

worn falcon
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since yesterday

dreamy cave
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lmaooooo

twin bloom
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Its been like that

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Since MM

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Lmao

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He just deactivated it

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For the tweet

next mesa
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yeah its not that surprising

candid radish
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Tbf reiner deactivates and re activates his Twitter randomly

fast tusk
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yesss

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titans are winning ?

wicked pendant
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I mean, it must be pretty hard on the mental when you're riding so high from the last tourney only to lose your first two games back

plush grail
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What's the name of the song playing rn

candid radish
plush grail
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It slaps

candid radish
# twin bloom For the tweet

Super annoying to see this argument, especially coming from Reiner himself on Twitter (bait?). Clearly the Glads have had the most success this year. But their wins were on different metas, and our conceptions of which teams are good are inevitably shaped by these metas. For example, teams that don’t have an S-tier tracer were punished in the first half of the season. Teams that didn’t have an S-tier Sojourn struggled last stage.

This doesn’t mean that in a meta where these heroes are less prominent / mandatory, wins by a team that previously performed poorly are fake / bullshit. It means the team has other strengths that make them more suited for this meta. Can you imagine if the metas were flipped? It could dramatically impact how we view some of these teams. That’s just Overwatch.

If he’s being serious, the audacity of Reiner to say that they’re losing to teams who don’t deserve to touch them… that’s so cocky coming from a guy who just lost two matches. There’s plenty of skill necessary in this meta. Teams that win games deserve those wins and teams that lose have things to work on. It’s crazy that so many people can’t see that

worn falcon
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owl always had banger intermissions song

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the hawaii ones are nice

hot onyx
plush grail
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When are u gonna stop talking to me

wicked pendant
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Let's go 3-0 so I can go to sleep

fast tusk
wicked pendant
cloud latch
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NNNNNMB

wicked pendant
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Okay, that's a dirty comparison

full lichen
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Dove has less deaths than Aspire

cloud latch
twin bloom
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Lol

fast tusk
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omg

hot onyx
twin bloom
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Thats a guriyo

fast tusk
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talk about a roll holy shit

twin bloom
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Vs lip

candid radish
molten portal
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WHAT THE FUCK

twin bloom
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Performance

worn falcon
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Dove Goat

twin bloom
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Lmao

fast tusk
twin bloom
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Dove still is the only reason

full lichen
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Remember, Dove also played Ashe

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Paris won

cunning patrol
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That’s so sucked up

twin bloom
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A game

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Imo

cunning patrol
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Lmfaooooo

wicked pendant
tiny pollen
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bro wtf are these stats

dreamy cave
wicked pendant
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Throwing up those stats like that

full lichen
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Me too, if I barely played a hero and got compared to a guy that played it all map, I'd be very offended

candid radish
# fast tusk oh

Reiner just said that he thinks the metas no skill and allows teams that are bad go toe to toe with better teams

wicked pendant
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My immediate response was "Why are they even comparing them lmao?"

dreamy cave
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That's rush for you

wicked pendant
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The only meaningful info you can get there is that they swapped last minute and the whole team got rolled repeatedly in a short amount of time

molten portal
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but still 2.5k damage 0 elims is pretty bad

twin bloom
wicked pendant
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That loss was a team effort tbh

twin bloom
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Today

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Imo

candid radish
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He has a point like this meta is piss easy but complaining that teams like NYXL and Boston aren’t losing 3-0 and fighting to win is dumb

full lichen
wicked pendant
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I do be hating this Junker Queen meta tho

twin bloom
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Chat member

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Today

full lichen
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Oh, thanks

tropic herald
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ok

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kaan might actually be wintrading

molten portal
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im curious to see what atl are gonna do if kai isnt playing

tiny pollen
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paris shouldnt play junker queen

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they will never win a mirror

full lichen
wicked pendant
tiny pollen
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gator on dps

molten portal
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i guess venom genji, nero soj

full lichen
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Nero would probably pick up Sojourn

molten portal
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aspire is stomping tho

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im glad

full lichen
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Aspire is too good for titans

wicked pendant
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Kaan being beat down

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That was almost uncomfortable to watch

worn falcon
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aspire should go with pelican

molten portal
twin bloom
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Idk who watches this game

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And blames wub

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Lol

fast tusk
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defiant ?

full lichen
twin bloom
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That is a very

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Possible roster

molten portal
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piggy aswell

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with peli

twin bloom
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That will happen

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Imo

dreamy cave
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Actual skill diff

wicked pendant
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Masaa feeling good about their odds

twin bloom
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The skill gap isn't that large paris has some other issues

full lichen
twin bloom
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To say da least

fast tusk
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ac tually i think where ever piggy goes, pelican follows

molten portal
raw ermine
twin bloom
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Lol

molten portal
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what a clown

fast tusk
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wait whats so special about august 14th?

full lichen
fast tusk
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ahh

twin bloom
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Bro dove is getting stomped

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Lol

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Wub>dove

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This game

full lichen
twin bloom
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And wub>>every player

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On paris

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Rn

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Lmao

twin bloom
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Paris has internal issues

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Rn

tropic herald
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@twin bloom your allegations on kaan look real right now

full lichen
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Hire KDG or smth, he'll be better

dreamy cave
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Titans are one again getting good results in a rush meta like the tales of old titans.

molten portal
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i think if kaan leaves the game, paris have a shot

tropic herald
candid radish
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Let’s go titans

twin bloom
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Idk wub is not doing good

fast tusk
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WOOOOOO

wicked pendant
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Titans W

twin bloom
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But anyone scrapegoating

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Him for this loss

dreamy cave
worn falcon
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rolled and smoked

twin bloom
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Is so dumb

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Lol

fast tusk
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YEAHHHHHH

earnest leaf
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finally

worn falcon
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Bottom of the barrel paris

twin bloom
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#TitansWin

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Lets goo

dreamy cave
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Actual 3-0

wicked pendant
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Look at the casters trying to make this a big deal but tbh it's not fun watching this Junker Queen meta

chrome relic
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The Titans did it! o:

full lichen
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Ngl, Paris just got team diffed

mortal cipher
tropic herald
wicked pendant
deft wolf
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TITAN SWEEP FINALLY

twin bloom
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Bro even the titans players

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Dont care

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Lmao

molten portal
worn falcon
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Vanc vs Glads when

earnest leaf
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they knew they would win

twin bloom
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What a depressing win

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Lol

tropic herald
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mirror FeelsStrongMan

wicked pendant
candid radish
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I’m happy for yhem

wicked pendant
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I can't say bad shit about something I like?

candid radish
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Mirror just

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Tears

fast tusk
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so does every team have a win now ?

earnest leaf
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You can watch the games and also shit on the meta

full lichen
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Aspire just fucked

worn falcon
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man, aspire stats got buffed for the season

full lichen
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Ngl, I wanna see Aspire vs Shy 1v1 on Sojourn

tropic herald
dreamy cave
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Titans again winning in rush meta. I wonder if they will go on a sweep

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A win streak

candid radish
hot onyx
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Heh

wicked pendant
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Are the Titans starting to git gud again or are the Eternal really just that bad

worn falcon
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no

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mickey mouse meta

dreamy cave
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Eternal going down the ladder.

fast tusk
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man said dont touch 💀

earnest leaf
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Eternal been worse than titans most of this year tbh

stuck radish
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paris worst team in the league in this meta

earnest leaf
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lucky they avoided titans

wicked pendant
candid radish
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Titans have been getting good but not like they’re gonna win an other game this season if you get me

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Like they’ve defo improved but it’s a long way to go

dreamy cave
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They can do it

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Outlaws lost to NY and then beat glads. Anything is possible

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Still makes them a mid team though

candid radish
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They can but

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They’re not

wicked pendant
#

Current West standings for the regular season:

tropic herald
wicked pendant
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Titans W

mortal cipher
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Lol

dreamy cave
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Who does titans play next??

hoary swallow
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Vancouver good at rush styled comps , like 2019? coincidence ?

full lichen
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Ngl, Mayhem can actually win this next match if Shock plays Lucio Brig

deft wolf
stuck radish
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i flipped a coin yesterday with shock being heads and florida being tails and i got tails

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im worried

wicked pendant
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Man, I don't like how Mirror tried to be super toxic by saying "Don't touch" considering the Titans record

wicked pendant
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lmao

fast tusk
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i preded 3-2 mayhem

candid radish
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I don’t realise just how poor NYXL were till swing they’ve only won two including yesterday

wicked pendant
dreamy cave
full lichen
deft wolf
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wait isnt nyxl taking on the fuel?

wicked pendant
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No

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Unless you meant today

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Then yes

tropic herald
wicked pendant
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Also

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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

mortal cipher
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Hmm

dreamy cave
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Love that shit

mortal cipher
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Noice

warm helm
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Wtf is going on in owl today

mortal cipher
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Randomness

warm helm
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Piggy dropped. Is peli leaving too??? Where is he going 😢

mortal cipher
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Back to Atlanta

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Lol

brave zenith
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it'll be hard to find a good team to pick up the both of them

dreamy cave
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Atlanta can take pelican tbh

fast tusk
brave zenith
mortal cipher
dreamy cave
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We take those 100%

fast tusk
#

the dps line would be stacked

warm helm
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Why would reign take peli

mortal cipher
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Why not

warm helm
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Speedily turns 18 in a week

dreamy cave
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Because of the animals.

fast tusk
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i dont think so since were already gonna have speedily, along with nero

tropic herald
mortal cipher
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Yeah but would you rather have speedily or Peli

dreamy cave
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Hawk. Gather. And pelican.

brave zenith
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real

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but it doesnt make sense to have those 3 on the same team

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whether one is better than the rest

warm helm
#

Kai is also saying some bs on Twitter

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But it’s prolly bait

mortal cipher
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That’s Kai tho

brave zenith
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who knows

fast tusk
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when speedily plays will see who to keep

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lol

brave zenith
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he jus says he won't be playing

mortal cipher
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Yeah

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Yeah

fast tusk
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hes probably joking

brave zenith
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i dont think it means anything bad though

mortal cipher
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That’s not rlly anything big unless

dreamy cave
#

Wait. Did Atlanta have* trades??

mortal cipher
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Nah

deft wolf
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no

warm helm
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Kai’s probably baiting

mortal cipher
#

I don’t think at least

fast tusk
warm helm
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probably

deft wolf
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but I have a feeling atl might release venom,

dreamy cave
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As much as I dont like shock. I voted them ftw

mortal cipher
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Maybe

brave zenith
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surely this is wrong..

fast tusk
dreamy cave
mortal cipher
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Iif Atlanta was gonna release anyone it be speedily or Gator first

wicked pendant
brave zenith
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idk me personally i dont think reign would take in pelican

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pelican jus wants to be with piggy

deft wolf
mortal cipher
warm helm
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Speedily is gonna carry this team they aren’t releasing him

brave zenith
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and reign dont need another dps

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fdps

dreamy cave
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Venom plays genji too

deft wolf
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wait rlly?

brave zenith
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and so does nero

warm helm
deft wolf
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i dont think ive ever seen him play genji

dreamy cave
#

I swear I've seen venom swap to genji a few times

warm helm
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Yeah he did

fast tusk
warm helm
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In mm

deft wolf
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dam

warm helm
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He’s just not great at it

wicked pendant
warm helm
#

Not bad but not great

warm helm
warm helm
#

What happened to haksal anyway

mortal cipher
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Retired I think

dreamy cave
#

I may have not predicted mayhem to win. But I really hope they do man. I need shock to take a L

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Why couldn't outlaws have beaten shock instead

wicked pendant
deft wolf
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hope shock wins

warm helm
#

I don’t think this is the match shock lose

warm helm
#

Mayhem are gonna get gapped in the backline in this meta

mortal cipher
brave zenith
#

we dont know what'll happen

warm helm
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But also all kinds of crazy shit happens in this meta

brave zenith
#

like

mortal cipher
#

Yeah fr

brave zenith
#

realistically

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at this pointi will not be surprised if mayhem 3-0 or even 3-1 shock

mortal cipher
#

It’s the time of year where upsets are current thing

wicked pendant
mortal cipher
#

It was

brave zenith
#

proper 80% blade

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already

mortal cipher
#

Dang

wicked pendant
#

All I can tell you before I go is it involved bingo cards, Pizza Hut breadsticks as the prize of said bingo cards that JUST COULDN'T GET FILLED OUT, and a battle for the dubious honor of not being the actual absolute head-and-shoulders worst team in the league

brave zenith
#

I’m a liar he already has blade

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holy shit

fast tusk
#

jesus everytime they say someone i always ask "who ?"

dreamy cave
#

Looks like shock is actually proper and half of kilo today.

mortal cipher
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Yeah

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Always was

warm helm
#

Viol2t took the bait

mortal cipher
#

Lol

worn falcon
#

Finn Lucio, Viol2t Brig when

warm helm
#

Smart plays from mayhem

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Well bc viol2t let them bait his ult 😂

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Choke

molten portal
#

shock won ilios

warm helm
#

Unfortunate

molten portal
#

finally

willow drum
#

this is

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a dps gap

mortal cipher
#

Wow

willow drum
#

of the highest caliber

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i told you guys kilo is top 3 na hs

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yall didnt believe

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he will reap

brave zenith
stuck radish
#

does shock have a chance to win the mickey mouse stage

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this is good

brave zenith
#

i pay more attention to kilo than proper tbf

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proper is flashy but kilo jus has the nastiest gameplay it's enjoyable to watch

willow drum
#

he took a fat dump in xzi's mouth first map as well

brave zenith
molten portal
#

if hes not top 3, who is top 3

brave zenith
#

like i believed that

willow drum
#

kai happy heesu

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but imo he is only worse than kai

stuck radish
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kai is overrated imo

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but i hate atlanta so bias

mortal cipher
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Lol

north relic
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does anyone know whats happening with kai anyway

north relic
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All gap

willow drum
stuck radish
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Goodbye Pelican

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LOL

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lmao

brave zenith
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any ideas on who would take them both in

willow drum
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no idea

brave zenith
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thats the only thing ive been questioning

mortal cipher
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Piggy to Seoul lol

warm helm
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Why did they use kc footage shock went out in 3

molten portal
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with piggy

mortal cipher
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Interesting

stuck radish
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lmao

mortal cipher
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Lmbao

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smartest youtube commenter

mortal cipher
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Fr

brave zenith
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no dva no win

willow drum
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also btw guys the only team

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that has a better control record than shock

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is seoul

mortal cipher
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Makes sense

molten portal
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does double fs work?

willow drum
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but yeah shock being bad on control

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is not a thing LOL

mortal cipher
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Unless they’re playing justice ig

willow drum
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why are mayhem running this

mortal cipher
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Idek

molten portal
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idk

willow drum
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if shock dont win with 2x ms

mortal cipher
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Florida wir Are you doing

willow drum
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they can just switch to 2x fs

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this is shocks worst map tho right

willow drum
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and then gap in 2x fs

warm helm
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Unlucky

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Missed the door

north relic
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Shock have a mid double fs on paper

molten portal
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???

willow drum
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dont worry

warm helm
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Violet Finn mid?

north relic
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One good fs (Finn) and one main support that can play an ok ana

warm helm
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ok that’s bait

fast tusk
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omg xzi

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gross

willow drum
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ok that is diff

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kilo shit on xzi

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OMG

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HE IS SO CLEAN

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WHAT A GOAT

warm helm
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Shock need to use that double speed to get on this backline man

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Or just assasinate two players 😂

willow drum
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this is such a weird

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fucking support pick

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how is it working lol

full lichen
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Ngl , when Majed jumped down, I got scared

brave zenith
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jesus

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the dmg