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glads have the best color scheme
To each their own
seoul/shock have the best colors imo
I’ll agree with Seoul
for shock their color scheme with black is better than their orange one
I mean he about lost so
Honestly this meta looks fun to play in
no individual skill is required
So much speeed
literally game is 50/50
between win or loss
like i wouldnt be surprised if glads lose to titans
Houston beat glads suddenly
Believeable since glads lost and shock almost did
yep
not nyxl
TEAMS LIKE NYXL ARE WINNING???
they signed a main support and won against Merit still on soujourn
kellan is the best jq in the world
Titans choked in round 3 of map 5
if shanghai lost to valiant 3-0
Lmfaoooo
K1ng bladed in a lost fight with 50 hp
Switched to tracer
Built pulse
And pulsed himself
yes
agreed
also @cunning patrol
kilo diffed happy
kilogoat imo
very talented player
would you then believe in nohill supremacy
i always believe in nohill supremacy
mickey mouse meta
God Coach NoHill will save us from this terrible JQ comp
he will run the new fox hero that isn't supposed to come out until august
and win the tournament
from sheer willpower
we are currently in august
Kinda idk
Yeh
Aspire also diffed heesu today
“Anybody can win in this meta”
who won vancouver toronto
Toronto
ofc
it is true
philly will win against spark
this meta
Philly always beat spark
Is it just odyssey
Or something
New Paris Eternal is just gonna be Dove Chime Icy Rhyno Vega and Landon
Its gonna be something like that
Not enough bag for Odyssey players
Spitfire replace Landon with an actual European so the fans don’t riot like LV1CROOK
I played a little bit of ow recently for "FUN" 🙂 I come back and the meta in ranked is JQ goats. You guys still don't understand the game or what. Fucking junkerqueen could fly, it wouldn't be the meta, use your brain, you can counter this shit with 10 different compositions.
I played a little bit of ow recently for "FUN" 🙂 I come back and the meta in ranked is JQ goats. You guys still don't understand the game or what. Fucking junkerqueen could fly, it wouldn't be the meta, use your brain, you can counter this shit with 10 different compositions.
Vegas eternal
Contenders starting soon again EU, i like watching that more even
And ye jq goats is kinda boring to watch...
My favorite place to watch torb 1v1s
Im late but holy shit the match with sf shock vs washington justice was intense af
Very ultra late
apparently there’s gonna be a sigma contenders skin this month too
wdym? there is no beta
look in the mirror

Hope atl reign wins against the toronto defi
They are super inconsistent but i hope they wake up during the summer showdown

but I think the meta is super weird
doom and tracer are less viable and I think hawk and venom are being punished bc of it. Venom wasnt even in the last game and I hope he finds a viable character.
Genji seems like a good pick for him, with all the meta changes and stuff
Why would he play genji when they have Nero
Nero did play well, but i feel like kai didnt pull enough weight
true true
But what other characters can venom utilize
I just want the atl to have a solid run in the qualifiers
Nero and kai play better than venom
Atlanta did bad because they had poor communication and went over aggressive
Boston just understood how to play joats better
fair point
Nero can be a solid stand by until speedily comes of age
Which is in week 3 of the qualifiers
i am kinda like speedily
most people aren't aware of the age rule i guess
IMO child labor is acceptable in esports
Child labor laws are supposed to protect underdeveloped minds from being taken advantage of but there are already eSports pros of age that are dumb as rocks and are definitely getting fucked over by their orgs
Reign posted speedily
Ig ppl assumed he was old enough
OWL Desk Talent and some GMs and coaches voted on ROTY during the halfway mark
Here's the very close results
Wow
Noice
Overwhelming NA bias
?
1/3 of all responses were from APAC org leaders
so at least like
11 people voted for proper from apac
who are the other candidates
in apac
you have alphayi zest
uhh not belosrea
vindaim
uhh
not mn3
it's literally just alphayi and zest
and vindaim
vindaim has been good but not amazing
You agree that coluge and merit deserve it more???
Fucking weirdo
Yeah then it is overwhelming NA bias
i can name a ton of hs players better than him
No recognition for my boys
lip shy kai fits leave (if counted) happy probably pineapple/diya
pineapple hasn't played this year so probably shouldnt be included
Ur list is garbo
list is shit
anyone else rocking 2 points in pick ems?? 🔥
I have 7
Ngl, comparing performances, I actually think Mayhem will beat shock 3-2 if the shock show up like they did against Washington and Checkmate is having a good day
That would be unbelievably based
shanghai will lose to nohill comps imo
Shanghai will mirror nohill comps***
Everyone does ngl
No ZEST, the bias against Fusion is gross
MN3 is at least in the conversation after the crap he has been forced to carry to 2nd and 4th place
zest has been okay don’t shit on him
read more than one message challenge
real
I am officially done with the justice they got reverse swept a 3rd time by SFS I am done I am now a fully pledged London fan
GOOD ONE MEMEICUS
@willow drum 32° 41′ 5.14″ N, 117° 7′ 47.87″ W
💀
💀
What the fuck that is the emoji context man?
I do not understand your degenerate language
Why don't just use emoticons like normal person?
💀
oo
^
m
U literally screenshot that out of contesxt
nats is a god
its emea timezones
this map is so dumb
you need to look at vlr after this mapis done
look at the map rounds
whats happening
lol
Lmaooo
What context is there
17 while still a child is not child labour
memeicus moment
the context is that child labor laws dont apply to esports as well
tf happened
Memeicus did a meme
My preds for today
imagine believing in Boston to beat a decent team
Images
Boston beat Atlanta -_-
they beat reign
i said a decent team bozos
Atlanta are great, So I could see a sweep happened
after losing to boston you still have them great?
big dick
Reign are below decent
always have been
Ojee 5th lmfaoo
where is gangnamjin?
imagine not having youtube premium

No adblock?
Yeah
agreed
and belosrea
only due to him full starting now
he was worse at the start because he was splitting time wit carpe
in scrims
that is fair
no more obstacles holding back MNJesus
except for his god awful support line
and his main tank potentially forcing rush
I don’t pay attention
To aimgod
But I’ve heard from one individual he’s a goat
Fixa ik is garbage
and his off tank flipping a coin on whether to perform like its 2020 or 3020
Fury doesn’t care about Ow anymore
Aimgod is only average on zen and still fails to punish dives
easily the worst ana and bap in apac
dear god my team is literally a reincarnation of the 2021 Justice
Philly could grab Myunb0ng
Babel is unironically better
and kuki
belosrea was not hyped up to be a top rookie prospect
boston are about to fucking smash london
londone are winnin
fr
They probably didn’t change it or just gave up
I meant great dps ok tanks and horrid supports
jaws
Probably will tho
i will happily watch them pick rein and getting destroyed
actually thats true
"why do people hate this meta" -someone in youtube chat
Because we remember goats
maybe not uv but most def can be an upgrade for ojee
boston you better not fucking lose this
💯
Tru
ur a moron sans
fellow spitfire believer Reinforce disagrees
Noice
Is mempo an nft thing
Sad
Same
very mickay mouse meta
YES BOSTON
Average Valentine blade
whats up with owl stream qualioty lately? i was watching contenders and it was fin, great even
FOREVER
Yee
oh ym fucking god man
Imagine believing VictFraudia could ever hold a candle against GoatR
I thought Boston would win. . .
Mannnn
i didnt think theyd win but id hope for a 3-2 spitfire score
i guess reign jus wasnt up to part w it like boston was
got my hopes up
Just shows we know nothing and everything is a lie now
I'm just getting here, how was the first map??
boston is letting me down
spitfire always had the upper hand during overtime retakes
Yeah
Y would you bet on Boston after they beat atl? I voted for their downfall.
Ayo backbone
yeah but i hate spitfire more tho
what is he cooking
oh you dislike JOATs dps? How about
Wot are they doing
also WHAT THE FUCK IS SPITFIRE DOING ??????
they'd only do this vs a team like boston
Hyper realistic bastion in my owl match
Fr et are rolling with a bastion
And it worked
I feel like reaper would be good with this rush comp. But high ground would be hard
Reaper needs Zarya to work for the mrest at part
And by this comp I mean the same rush we've seen all week
Idk. He has life steal. Close combat. Hit scan. Fade is strong asf and cleanses anti from JQ ult. Deathblossom is massive and they cant stun him.
And teleport for positioning
I would like to see someone try it with a ash
too much displacement it will be hard for a reaper to stay in effective range i think
But with two types of speed boost and fade giving him a slight boost in speed while active he can get around
I think its viable. Just not as good as genji currently
Perhaps someone like edison could make it work.
Can someone explain the reasoning behind this new junker lucio brig comp that everyone is doing
Is it just like rush in a way?
Brig and junker ability both giving everyone crazy sustain I assume
Commanding shout is strong af and the fact u can build a team around it that utilizes the speed and health it gives makes this rush really effective for chasing and killing specific threats.
yeah and also where as rush is more about roatations and map control, this ult is more about getting value out of your cooldowns and ults
oh and if your dps can capitalize on the damage being done to assassinate someone, that usually is fight winning which is how it differs from goats and is more intersting imo
They simply out flank. And out maneuver all other comps
wow what a shot
How could u stop this comp from being meta forever? Making lucio and junker speeds not stack?
Or shout nerf
No. Shout nerd most likely. It's going to be here until we get new heros I think
well you have a hero like moira who had a necrotic orb hat would have worked alright
far from perfect, but please don't exaggerate how bad this comp is
Brig rally getting changed I heard
She would need to hit the JQ with it at most all times however
it's accessible for new viewers to compensate for a very flawed support comp
When the fox girl drops though it should change the meta harshly along with whatever they decide to do with moria.
if brig was deleted 4 years ago it wouldve been ok
I just can’t wait for doom changes in 2 lmao
yes
He feels so unfun in 1
Brig has been in 3 goats comps right??
Rally change would help
Brig is usually in every comp
If she didn’t have it
inspire is ridiculous aswell
^^^
Tru
I justify playing brig in overwatch 1. I only do it when I face doom 1 tricks

Out of spite
what a fail, an A for effort bonebastion
Tbh I feel like her ult fits both her character and her abilities in general. Changing rally to something else would be hard.
I hope she is still playable. My fav team comp is dive and she is usually pretty important for protecting zen and Ana
One of those works one thing
yess
man boston suck
The first sweep
c9
Let's go Londonnnn
letssss go london
Atlanta are so ass
yup
Lmao
I believed
B9!!!!
Florida was a fluke
Sephy needs to go
Up9
you are one of two types of teams - you automatically support spitfire if you dislike the junker comps
Always a believer
Sadly
i think atl can bounce back
atl come back
I like watching jq plays tbf
exactly
And I'm the spitfire simp
there's an outspoken majority who really dislike it
let's go support player of the match

They wont
The British came
Admiral aka british uber-lookalike but support main
O shit ur right, I'll always love it when London beat Boston
Isn't admiral Estonian?
The British are coming the British are coming
Yeah he's Estonian
I meant the team when I say british
Ahhhhh
Yeah I said because people were chanting the British were coming in Yt chat lol
Indeed they did
Boston v London >>>>>>>>>> Battle for Texas
Also not the richest person in Estonia 🇪🇪
The oldest rivalry
London spitfire comms: [God Save the] QueenQueenQueenQueenQueenQueen
watching spitfire play is so boring
honestly I'm fine just shortening it to Junk instead of queen
Lol
Queen is just easier to say
okay and now spitfire dominated??????
Junk has two hard consonant sounds
dude I for real will have 0 points in my pick ems
why do paris not have their badge on the match screen
They aren’t Paris next year is my guess
Boston not playing as decisive as they did vs atl yesterday
It was a fluke
It was decisive, just decisively bad
I think if faith had gone with valentine on those Landon dives they would’ve wipe those first two corners a lot faster
I’m so smart
And not pushed into a blizzard beat shatter in final fight
I knew London were bigger than Boston
tfw desk was talking about pickems before the game and i actually predicted london to win 3-0 
No they didn’t
Next match is a certified 3-0
Expected
Lmaooo
Preseason ranking check?
Ayo?
It was a brilliant pred
Just like Spark 3rd apac was brilliant
And how Glads 1st NA was brilliant
sans nothing you do is brilliant
lemonkiwi is from vegas? thats interesting
Paris are 1/2 a team
I thought she was Canadian
wdym?
GET DECA-I MEAN DEPRESSION OFF THE STARTING LINEUP
copium
a valid goal
decayed his sportmansship 😂
Couldn’t watch yesterdays, what happened
boston shit on atl
Dam
shock reverse swept justice
Not surprising
shock loves reverse sweeping
and paris is eternal
they're the new philli
Nice
and tornto and titans had a really close game
hello there
That’s good news for titans
king was doing really good
Dove and Wub aren't the problem with Eternal
Levi can vouch that my 3k game saving dragon blade in OW2 pugs on Lijiang Market while down 2 was brilliant
pulsed himslef LOL
Lol
@plush grail
Who here bought watchpoint pack
I did
i got it with Microsoft's money
Dam I want daddy Microsoft on my side
how long did that take you to accumulate
theres no way justice lose this one right?
Ik
. . .
it was my entire account savings 
Happy has to carry
holy shit damage gap
This is gonna be a repeat of yesterday XD
part of me thought decay would come out on jq with assasin on genji yesterday LOL
Mag jas looked really good on the jq though
yall arent gonna like this
but i have houston over glads today
Paris kinda decent
Shit player
they were never good?
Lmbao
wow the paris away skins suck ass
you'll notice no one prefers the away skins
some look okay
Away usually are worse because they’re all white
dallas fuel away look good
boston's redesigned blue/white skins also not bad
c9
Not rlly
got blocked by the environment
skill issue
Yeah
He wasn’t even on the cart
paris as awful as ever
Rip
man the vegas eternal suck ngl
decay looks fucking pissed
i would be too
relegated by happy as the clutch carry
which is not helping things
decay apologists wya
doesnt decay haver performance issues?
How entertaining is OWL?
it's really good
so good in fact
we don't even chat here during matches
matches absorb you
sounds like a good deal then
Yeah
this isnt even a match
dye joe boo
Paris???
love it
LMAO
surley paris dont win this map right?
Surely
This is a toilet bowl
wait what ??


jake trading card
rip doge
wowowo
Ngl, when it showed Shu's facecam, I thought it was Yaki for a second
Lol
after the nyxl vs outlaws match though im not gonna expect anything much from outlaws
Junkrat
Kevster???????
wait what
Did patiphan call out sick
this is so cursed, shu dps and kevin junkrat
fuck the meta
-kevster, probably
Why tf does he look like Yaki?
Mickey mouse meta

so true

Guys look. Outlaws took a map while glads had a support on dps
Wot is going on
Ans
This new meta is fucking backwards
I cant wait for someone to look at the score with No context
shu is Not viol2t
Hes not rascal either
Why would Someone need to look at it? I don't think Florida play Glads or Houston this tourney cycle
Glads doing sone 2021 shock v Houston
Im specifically talking about outlaws being up a map against glads while they are trying something different
Not many
the viol2t echo
Didnt viol2t get one map
Who did they play against where they win a Map with Violet DPS
reminder that viol2t diffed birdring on cree
Glads and dallas are two
Glads are going ape with this comp
the first shock v glads of s4
gibraltar
Ah
I remember they lost horribly against Houston with Violet dps
At least ans won 2 maps yesterday
i would hope so
Better than shu dps
Lol vancouver sweep
Please free patiphan
Someone said he has a wrist injury
People just shitting on Ans without reason
No clue if that's true or not

Man won 2 tournies mfs still hating
If he has a wrist injury just play ans
Can't wait to see the cope when ans has another GF win
dont tell me glads is about to win every tournament and the finals
FADS are not winning gf
Idk about this tourney atm
ans was invisible on CR upper finals
Because mickey mouse meta
im glad i got to see ans at his prime
Yeah good times
if you were a shock fan yeah but otherwise eh
It was still good regardless that was peak widow
yeah
He was one of the resins they won 2020 ( ignoring random hog meta )
remember when they beat shanghai in dive mirror
Coin flip meta frfr
Maannnn
dont worry houston's mental will get exploded next map and glads will reverse sweep probably
Maybe but it was just unfortunate for teams who couldn’t play hog
Tbf no one knew who would be good at hog
(shanghai)
Today is a sad day
Just happened gesture and super were good
man shanghai got screwed by that meta
yeah they wouldnt have won the gf but they wouldnt have lost to seoul
that wa so fast
Definitely
Maybe but I think if they didn’t win it wouldn’t been the riggtest grand finals possible
That be something
If glads lose im going to be more mad that titans lost their match
Glads still feel high off of the MM win
Paris at least have win
Paris get beat up so much I dont remember their wins
One map away from NYXL being the best OWL team
C9 LUL!
they had bob lmao
Houston throwing
Gotta have one quick game or one rlly rlly long last map
One last game or a long map
Ans
O:
NOOOOO
Ans good
Houston man
Ok we ain’t having three sweeps in a row
Ans clears
glads win the series now
It was close tho

houston always gets boomed in these situations
Geguri clears all of these losers
Tru
Bro Imma be honest, it’s not boring to me because I wasn’t here for the majority of Goats meta, but this is gonna get stale really quick

It’s already stale
^^^
Not against shock last year somehow
This meta is basically you look trash one day then god tier the next
You can't be more wrong about ashe being better than sojourn. Ashe has so much downtime with reload, Sojourn has better consistent damage and ACTUAL one shots while ashe damage can be easily sustained. Also, ashe has to play long sightlines but there are 2 speedboosts to close distance easily
i wasnt here for goats and i am so bored
Washington in a nutshell
Basically
I wont bw surprised if Houston choke
It’s just.. like two teams running at each other. I’m sure it’s more complex than meets the eye, but on a surface level it looks like.. two.. goats butting.. heads
Huh
I know I’m probably just jumping on the bandwagon at this point, but it’s just like.. I wanna see something else new strategies, flanks, combos
Not the same 5 characters every match
Instead of being a complex ebb and flow, it feels like 2 teams grouped up all the time and not taking any risks
Let me ask you this
(Don't watch Toronto play it)
Not sure
Because if you know you are a worse team you need to do something to win
Just get better instead
Just because you’re a worse team doesn’t mean they can’t make mistakes
If I am the hitscan playing against LIP on circuit royal I am giving up on trying to win the widow duel neutral and I'll take different risks to try and win
Then ur actively throwing by giving enemy widow free reign
If I was playing against lip on circuit Royale I would be shooting the feeding genji
1/10 of winning is better than 0/10
If ur worse at widow you don’t actively fight the enemy widow you stop the enemy widow from free farming ur team
Yeah
Everything is a risk then
Yes
Overwatch is a game of percentages
It is not a game with complete information
It does not have game theory
It is chance
The only safe option is to stay in spawn
The only safe option is to play sombra and perma invis on the other side of the map
r u kidding me
If that's the only safe play and teams are playing safe the enemy team will also run Sombra and you'll run into each other
Risk
i literally come back from the gas station to this
Houston almost 3-0 glads
i know
So close both times
one team either gets reverse swept 2 times in a row
or gets denied reverse sweep
2 times in a row
Hammond???
no way
Lol
They’re still on ball so they lose
oh my gooodaaaaa
Houston is so bad
houston
i suppose the team i root for is gonna be toronto due to their colors
how tf do they lose that 💀💀
omg houston
houstonable
Lul9
How did they lose that round
fuel
Every year is basically who is worse: Washington Houston or Toronto
lep booped reiner off the map during rampage and houston loses
how is that possible
Bob did something
this fight went from "how did houston lose that" to "how did glads lose that"
This meta is weird
i hate this game
Let’s go
i fucking hate this game
gg
Gg
Gladiator...
Glads shitta down
I hate this meta
Man, props to Houston for coming back together after that awful choke
Texas taking out the best team in na again
Nononinono remove this meta
Merit is so fucking good
la loses to texas
mickey mouse meta
Texas taking out the top teams
How tf do we lose to nyxl but beat glads
They lose to the OutLuls and the worst team and the league! 😭
this meta has ruined ow2
The old Houston tale is true lose to the worst beat the best
this meta i sweaaaaar
I hate junker Queens honestly
Lost to s1 meta from Boston last year
well i guess Glads arent going to win Summer Showdown
Ig not
Neither are fuel so it's fine :D
Who will is the real question
come on Fusion
crazy how shock has the same chance as fucking houston to win this tournament
Spark gonna win
https://gyazo.com/05feeac0f5665f58d3ac418326fd68bf i have no words
The one time where the 50/50 team can win
Wanna know the best part my preds are 3 2 Houston
at this rate shock v vancouver is gonna be a map 8
I am no longer suicidal.
Vancouvers first win US shock
I think shout should either only be a speed boost or a speed boost and like a cleanse/immunity sort of an encouraging screech
Maybe
yo when i was preding i preded that mayhem would win over shock, that actually might be true
glads is not the best
Who is best team rn
charge
yeah what coluge says
imo the best team
in this meta
is the luckiest
so it is justice
because of how long they were able
to live in the league
despite eveyrone hating them
Why is this meta a thing
Is junker queen enabling it?
Lucio brig looks weird to me lmao
Usually rush is lucio bap
bap not good here
no boop
no area control
less tanky than brig
rally not as good
no shield either
Why is he played in rein rush but no junker rush
That’s my main question
Junker not need the big heals?
And brig better brawler
Rein needs more sustain
Kellan’s is
So bap would be overkill for heals
basically
And brig offers more brawl
Srry for question spam but what could be done to fix this meta
Or make it not permanent
this has to be satire. when yall win its shit talk all day but the second you lose its a trash meta. get better 4head. if it was a zero skill meta then the “best” teams would still be winning right ? smokin that reiner pack
/s
Disagree
Me and you admit when our teams do bad lol such a shame not many other do
Would yall say this is a healthy meta?






