esports-discussion

[keen abyss]

i mean

this is what flex support originally was

[hot onyx]

Wait what the fuck Doha is benching Sp9rk1e for genji???

[keen abyss]

juggling heroes like ana zen and hs

[forest token]

sparkle genji has not been terribly inspirational

not going to lie

[dreamy cave]

Just getting in to watch the match

3dps meta?

[hot onyx]

But Doha

[dreamy cave]

Love to see it

[restive nexus]

sp9rk1e overrated

[willow tartan]

tilting your head gives you better spatial sound because you're not only able to discern left and right but also up and down at the same time

[balmy wolf]

nyxl won?????????????????????

huh??????????

[keen abyss]

no

houston lost

[forest token]

dude this meta is so shit

[dreamy cave]

Wait this isnt the first match of the day??

[forest token]

fuck this meta

[fast tusk]

ahh i see

[willow tartan]

They both lost

[brave zenith]

nope

[forest token]

no nyxl houston played before this

[dreamy cave]

WAIT NYXL WON

[restive nexus]

its more the outlaws outluled

[brave zenith]

mayhem vs spitfire , nyxl vs outlaws and now fuel vs glads

[forest token]

houston vs. outlaws

[restive nexus]

mayhem beat spitfire :C

[willow tartan]

classic

[forest token]

oh right mayhem spitfire was before that too

ngl

[balmy wolf]

if fuel wins all my preds will be wrong today 😎

[keen abyss]

outlaws have gone from 4th best in NA back down to like 8th

[forest token]

forgot that happened it was so forgettable

[dreamy cave]

Outluls

[forest token]

houston 4th?

[brave zenith]

mine could've been so perfect for once

[restive nexus]

ayyyyy same 😄

[brave zenith]

but no outlaws had to get reverse sweep.

[forest token]

glads, shock, reign, am I forgetting someone

[old stag]

I can't believe NYXL did that

are they actually good?

[old stag]

spark

[restive nexus]

vancouver

[forest token]

spark is apac

ngl I haven't seen titans last stage

I stopped paying attention to that team

[old stag]

Fuel aren't that bad

[brave zenith]

did u watch the titans match vs justice

[fast tusk]

wow

[forest token]

no

[restive nexus]

fuel overrated

[brave zenith]

oh boy

[hot onyx]

Mickey Mouse meta

[forest token]

two troll tier teams

why would I watch that

[brave zenith]

it was

bad

[dreamy cave]

Edison woke up?!

[old stag]

wdym

[brave zenith]

titans almost won but they c9'd

[hot onyx]

New hero plus double main support

[restive nexus]

titans going 2-4 this split

[forest token]

I'm liking the mei

the slow is fucking brutal

[willow drum]

@twin bloom thoughts on reiner

[hot onyx]

Is going to show weaker teams stronger

[forest token]

maybe we see more rein cuz he can deal with it

[fast tusk]

fuels good man

[restive nexus]

you mean dad?

[old stag]

fuelsbadman

[keen abyss]

depends on if you rate dallas/florida/london above houston

[fast tusk]

lmao

[keen abyss]

which prior to today i wouldn't have

[forest token]

I'm trying to remember them from last stage

I remember dallas just not being good

[restive nexus]

london>houston>sp9rk1e i mean fuel

[keen abyss]

what the fuck is this london > houston take

london better than expected sure but that is criminally overrating them

[fast tusk]

lmao

na

[forest token]

shu trolled his e

went back and watched the fight

shu trolled his e and let dallas into point

then got caught

[keen abyss]

shu has been landing one shots but idk if his dps fundamentals are up to par

[restive nexus]

Im banned from the dallas fuel discord so i cant piss them all off 😦

[brave zenith]

yeaa

[keen abyss]

hanbin trolled so hard

[forest token]

slow placement has been slowly improving across last stage

[brave zenith]

the experimenting is cool but if they wanna take this seriously and secure wins then jus keep pati in

[forest token]

shu might click with the soj better or be sick or smth

we'll see if they stick with it

cuz if it's a one map/game thing then yeah they're just doing a bit of trolling

[keen abyss]

if i had to assume

[mortal cipher]

It’s upset week

[brave zenith]

why is shu

[keen abyss]

pati probably can only play soj ans can probably only play ashe

[full lichen]

This is a Face idea

[brave zenith]

staggering himself

[forest token]

I'm like 90% sure that the zar defense against shock dva during the playoffs last stage was just glads trolling/saving strats

[brave zenith]

he slid away when he was about to die

and ended up getting so heavily staggered

[keen abyss]

i wouldn't be surprised if shu can play both more comfortably

[fast tusk]

ok

[restive nexus]

3 dps on glads

[fast tusk]

so uhh

[brave zenith]

nah ngl shu kinda threw the end

[fast tusk]

dont put your supports on dps

[mortal cipher]

Someone said coloue pioneering Dva when it worked like twice

[fast tusk]

it didnt work for shock

[forest token]

I mean

[fast tusk]

and diidnt work for fuel

[forest token]

apparently crusty thought the dva was underrated

I said after watching shock run it that it only works if you can tracer diff the enemy

[restive nexus]

idkkk funnyastro lucio does a pretty good job at it

[fast tusk]

wait glads fuck

[mortal cipher]

I mean there’s a reason Nei one has played her yet

[fast tusk]

lmao

[forest token]

then glads came in with kevster and beat it

[mortal cipher]

I accidentally said 3-1 Dallas

[earnest leaf]

viol2t on dps wasn't even that bad

[mortal cipher]

So right now looks good

[keen abyss]

looks like i was right when i said i thought fielder brig would be good

[earnest leaf]

people way overexaggerated it

[restive nexus]

RIP

[trail perch]

Bro u thought??

[forest token]

my concern rn is the slow placement on shu

his aim will be fine

[trail perch]

we saw it

[forest token]

but the slow is absurdly important

[earnest leaf]

viol2t went 2-2 for maps on dps and that's it

[trail perch]

like he played brig for a whole stage...

[mortal cipher]

I mean right now I look good

[earnest leaf]

wasn't anything bad

[keen abyss]

when?

[trail perch]

thats not a prediction

[cunning patrol]

he gapped the bring

on mcgee

[trail perch]

may melee 2021...

do ppl just like not remember that

Fielder Rapel was the support lineup for 4 games

in a row

[earnest leaf]

fielder has played 4 maps total on brig

41 minutes

[keen abyss]

oh

[cunning patrol]

lol

[fast tusk]

i hate this song, it olways makes me think the video has stopped playing

[trail perch]

and how much lucio

[keen abyss]

i forgot that rapel existed honestly

[trail perch]

another few maps

[cunning patrol]

how does that relate

[earnest leaf]

2 maps on lucio

[cunning patrol]

to ur statement

[cunning patrol]

like

[trail perch]

and they ran double flex support

[cunning patrol]

how does that back up ur statement in any way

[mortal cipher]

Did rapel win a map or a game

[trail perch]

Both

[trail perch]

cause he played ms/fs

and weve seen his brig

and it was good

[keen abyss]

i havent seen his brig

[trail perch]

valid

[cunning patrol]

everyone can play brig

[trail perch]

not true

very not true

birdring.

[cunning patrol]

he could

he just didnt want to

[trail perch]

sure buddy

[cunning patrol]

ok

[trail perch]

why do they use ch1yo stream clips

in the hype video

instead of like contenders or owl clips

[forest token]

lmfao

there's ans

[mortal cipher]

Did it just say ans subbing in for Shu

[forest token]

ye

[fast tusk]

yeah new rio map

[forest token]

gonna run the ashe

[mortal cipher]

Lmbao

[forest token]

oh shit I don't actually know this map

welp

[keen abyss]

lemon hyped up full holds on this map so much

just for glads to cap in under a minute

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[keen abyss]

little bit of a kevin moment

[trail perch]

wait can someone explain to me like im dumb why reaper doesnt work in this comp

and why genji does

[forest token]

genji better mobility

[fast tusk]

see what happens when you for players on there intended roles

[forest token]

you can brawl and then dash out, dash in to combo

reaper needs to set up then fight

[trail perch]

cause my monk brain is j like "echo reaper"

[forest token]

much slower

[trail perch]

yes but why is that bad

if you are brawling anyway

and u still have wraith

[keen abyss]

reaper probably gets kited more easily

[forest token]

because this comp doesn't want to consistently fight

[trail perch]

valid

[trail perch]

makes sense

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[keen abyss]

really?

i was told that this was more of a brawl comp

than a rush comp

[forest token]

so

they're playing off the shout and dynamite

they don't want to eat poke because they have nothing to stop it

[keen abyss]

fastro genji diffing doha

i feel like reaper just doesnt work without moira

as well

[forest token]

wut

[keen abyss]

every time we've seen reaper good we've seen moira in

and vice versa

[forest token]

reaper typically likes the zarya

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

The bubble helps

[keen abyss]

maybe im thinking of zombie comp

[forest token]

because the reaper is scary when he's shooting and the bubble keeps him from getting obliterated

[worn falcon]

so how is hanbin jq?

[forest token]

if you think about where a hero has to be to be disengaged vs. ready to fight

reaper has to travel much farther than genji

so genji can stay safer while still able to fight

even though the reaper is scarier when he fights, he's easier to ward off

[worn falcon]

glads playing so good

staying as team

but

now they look flaky

[forest token]

did they beat that

fuel

the soj slow is so fucking good

[fast tusk]

OH NO

ASTRO

[forest token]

ajax lel

[worn falcon]

i hate that sojourn orb so much

[forest token]

imagine playing pro and 6 years later people are still using your name to describe monumental fuckups

[worn falcon]

because zoning shit and slow

[forest token]

it's absurdly good

[worn falcon]

is better than fucking mei blizzard

[restive nexus]

i dont like Kevster echo

[worn falcon]

and mei blizz is a fucking ult

[forest token]

I liked the echo

tbh

[worn falcon]

but soj is fucking tact

[mortal cipher]

Who’d he play for

[forest token]

it wasn't rogue was it

[mortal cipher]

Did he even get into OWL

[forest token]

oh wait he's NA

why did I think he was eu the fuck

[mortal cipher]

Oh lol

Lmbao

[forest token]

he was on kungarna and renegades

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[forest token]

yeah no he was like

2016/17 player

lol

[fast tusk]

i wus BOORn ta ruul

[mortal cipher]

Oh

[fast tusk]

glads are really struggling here

[forest token]

dude I hate this meta

[austere mist]

WHAT JUST HAPPEND OVER AT EXCELSIOR

[forest token]

I can't watch it

it's so fucking terrible to watch

I just can't

bring back 2019 goats please

it's so much better than this

I fucking can't

[mortal cipher]

Excelsior played the game

[willow tartan]

Just wait until APAC

[austere mist]

they just fired a player without telling him

[molten portal]

this is fun

[mortal cipher]

It’s goats but worse

[forest token]

apac will probably be just as bad

if not worse

[austere mist]

myunbong

[forest token]

it's so much worse

[austere mist]

is gone

[forest token]

all the fun parts of watching goats are gone

it's just shit

[mortal cipher]

Ph that was bad communication between org - Smm

[worn falcon]

joats

[fast tusk]

oh my god

[molten portal]

zzzoats

[forest token]

I don't even think it's a goats comp

[fast tusk]

reiner is just being bullied

AGAIN

[mortal cipher]

Imagine if OW2 didn’t have a role lock

[worn falcon]

yeah, needs other tank

[mortal cipher]

[worn falcon]

imagine dva with jq

smile

[mortal cipher]

[stuck radish]

we need an emergency balance patch

[forest token]

zar

[fast tusk]

no that would be even worse then this

[forest token]

would be absurd

[stuck radish]

jq must be destroyed

[forest token]

it's not even JQ

it's fucking

[molten portal]

pls just give us horse meta

[forest token]

brig/lucio shitting healing everywhere

[keen abyss]

glads are just dropping 2 maps so kev can farm more final blows

[forest token]

true

[mortal cipher]

Mek meta

[forest token]

this game is so shit

[molten portal]

yeah brig is the problem

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

Klassik Brig

[forest token]

moira would be just as bad

like

[stuck radish]

originally i thought it'd be lucio moira but i forgot moira is just not as good

[worn falcon]

no, its the players being shit

[forest token]

people just shit healing everywhere

it's fucking stupid

[devout path]

ZELLSIS

[molten portal]

blade is sad

[devout path]

CMON SENTINELS

[tiny pollen]

hanbin

[fast tusk]

fuck man

[worn falcon]

theyre not sentinels, but fuel

[restive nexus]

what

[fast tusk]

what is this

lmao

[forest token]

this is a goofy fucking meta

in a goofy fucking game

[keen abyss]

glads getting revenge for KC

reverse sweep

[forest token]

imagine this kind of meta popped up in ow1

[mortal cipher]

Wait shu was on DPS

[restive nexus]

lmaooo

[forest token]

how fucking loud everyone would be crying

[worn falcon]

revert doomfist slow

smile

[forest token]

please

I don't know why they got rid of it

[willow tartan]

Did you miss June joust last year?

That shit was worse

[forest token]

was it

[willow tartan]

Yes.

[forest token]

this is so fucking awful

[tiny pollen]

it was horrible

[forest token]

what even was that meta

[keen abyss]

rare memeicus not being biased bc of shanghai moment

[stuck radish]

i liked june joust meta more than this

[tiny pollen]

six man with reaper echo

[forest token]

I mean

[tiny pollen]

nothing dies

[forest token]

if you say the tank lineup

[mortal cipher]

It was just Dva bomb duplication

[devout path]

OH MY GOD

[forest token]

I'll probably know what it was

[willow tartan]

Every zombie comp fight was like if you had your brain reset and you forgot how Overwatch works and you have no idea what is going on during team fights like it's your first time watching OWL

[devout path]

Sentinels please win this

I will cry

[stuck radish]

winston dva

w/ lucio moira

[forest token]

yeah no I'm liking this less

[tiny pollen]

there were like 5 dva bombs a fight

[idle beacon]

TF IS WRONG WITH GLADS????????

[forest token]

I will take it over this

this is just

terrible

[willow tartan]

Glads are just not good at the mirror

Wym what is wrong

[tiny pollen]

glads missing shu carry

also kevster is not mvp level

[worn falcon]

you know who is mvp level?

mn3

[willow tartan]

Shanghai will run fleta/whoru

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[tiny pollen]

whoru coming back to go diff every genji in the league

🐐

[willow tartan]

(He is the number 1 genji in the multiverse

[molten portal]

why isnt sp9rkle playing over doha

[mortal cipher]

Dallas moment

[molten portal]

just giving doha games?

[devout path]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[willow tartan]

Unfortunately a regional tournament so WHORU can't expose the NA fraud genji players

[tiny pollen]

very true

[forest token]

overwatch too strong

derrek cannot be overcome

[mortal cipher]

They didn’t want to embarrass na genjis do they didn’t play whoru

[keen abyss]

glads beat shock 4-2

shock beat shanghai 3-0

[worn falcon]

whoru have championship and haksal doesnt

[keen abyss]

shanghai beat dallas 3-0

[worn falcon]

neither shadowbenched

[keen abyss]

dallas are up 2-0 against glads

[worn falcon]

or eqo

[keen abyss]

i don't understand thisw

[molten portal]

yes in a complete different meta

[worn falcon]

so

[mortal cipher]

Owl logic doesn’t exist

[forest token]

the meta is troll

[fast tusk]

wow still no sparkle

[stuck radish]

im still convinced shock had an off day in the mm finals

[keen abyss]

doha 100% map wr

[worn falcon]

seicoe > whoru > haksal > any other genji

[forest token]

is that last patch finals

[keen abyss]

L

[mortal cipher]

It’s literally the last year where it was upset week

[forest token]

last two patches glads were far and away best team in the league

[willow tartan]

shanghai dragons had an off day season 3 2020 upper bracket finals playoffs korea

[fast tusk]

beatboxing junkertown moment

[forest token]

was not close

[keen abyss]

stand1

[worn falcon]

i miss piraste ship junker moment

[forest token]

why is junkertown in the map pool

dude

this game is so shit

[molten portal]

junkerqueen moment

[worn falcon]

why the astro is doing a funny

[willow tartan]

if the shanghai tankline were half as good at the roadhog as the other main tanks

[fast tusk]

edison on ashe ?

[stuck radish]

shanghai dragons have had lots of off days

[willow tartan]

at least those off days do not result in roster implosions

[keen abyss]

fearless was many things but he was not a hog god

[willow tartan]

or death threats to their players

[forest token]

isn't it so cool that genji can't deflect JQ knife

isn't it just so fucking cool

[worn falcon]

just not telling their players theyre fired

[stuck radish]

i was surprised i could eat orisa spear but not jq knife as dva

[willow tartan]

what

you can eat spear

[keen abyss]

✨ power creep ✨

[forest token]

ye

[old stag]

Why do people hate JOATS so much?

[willow tartan]

cause people keep calling it JOATS

[forest token]

it's not even a goats tbh

[worn falcon]

isnt the comp is the supports

[willow tartan]

its like last year with people calling zombie comps neo goats

[forest token]

but it's also fucking shit to watch

[willow tartan]

its not goats

so dont call it goats

it doesnt play like goats

[keen abyss]

it doesn

[old stag]

It is so much more fun to watch than dive

[keen abyss]

t

[forest token]

is it

you think this is fun to watch

[molten portal]

bruh

[keen abyss]

have any of the entertaining things that goats does

[forest token]

do you

[old stag]

yes

this is fun

[forest token]

well

good for you I guess

[worn falcon]

is more fun to see monke nap

[old stag]

I like brawl :(

[worn falcon]

monke zap

[forest token]

this is

the worst fuckign brawl meta

[keen abyss]

at least GOATs tank ults were exciting

[forest token]

that has ever been conceieved

[stuck radish]

kickoff clash nano visor meta > this

[old stag]

name a better brawl meta

[molten portal]

all i want is gibraltar to be picked

[stuck radish]

and i hated nano visor

[forest token]

ALL THE OTHER ONES

every single other brawl meta has been better

[willow tartan]

if you consider JQ double ms GOATs then you consider rein rush comps goats

[worn falcon]

i barely seen jq using her ult

[stuck radish]

it did in the first series and they played jq anyways

[molten portal]

bruh

[forest token]

fuck it I'll take fucking OG hog/zar/rein tripletank over this shit

like

[worn falcon]

is mostly the roar and the knife

[forest token]

it's so fucking bad

[fast tusk]

wow that throw

[keen abyss]

kevin just kevined

all over them

[willow tartan]

speed to int into enemy team

knife axe

ult out

ez clap

[keen abyss]

so she's a zen knock off

[fast tusk]

omg lmaoo

[old stag]

THIS IS FUN

say it aint

[forest token]

it's not

[molten portal]

it aint

[old stag]

fighting in spawn

[fast tusk]

im sorry that jq 1v1 was chaos

[forest token]

this meta

makes me consider not watching owl

[old stag]

you people just dont like fun 😦

[forest token]

yeah

fun

yep

this is fun

I enjoy

so fun guys

[worn falcon]

best meta

[keen abyss]

these are the glads i was expecting to see

[forest token]

lmfaoo

genuinely

[old stag]

there are no shields in this meta

[forest token]

might prefer that to this

[willow tartan]

i too expect the glads to be unreliable

[forest token]

this is just

fuck man

[molten portal]

last meta was like 16 times more fun to watch

[keen abyss]

who the fuckj

[forest token]

it's so fucking bad

[willow tartan]

better than soldier meta

[forest token]

I will take shields over shooting at people and having them gain hp

[shut bobcat]

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[fast tusk]

?

[willow tartan]

literally would rather watch any other comp that has ever been meta in OWL than to watch soldier again

[fast tusk]

oh

[willow tartan]

soldier is such a boring fucking character

[fast tusk]

LMAO

[stuck radish]

this might be a tournament where i only watch shock games

[forest token]

I'd take it over this

this is just

so shit

[worn falcon]

wonder if apac gonna touch this meta

[keen abyss]

average anubis defense composition

[old stag]

give me one reason that this is shit

[willow tartan]

so, average shock fan?

[stuck radish]

Yes

[willow tartan]

dont think so

[shut bobcat]

The same thing happens every fight

[willow tartan]

APAC teams are based and junqerqueen is cringe

[forest token]

because there are 4 boops, aoe heals everywhere, overhp being shit everywhere

it's so fucking bad

[willow tartan]

gentlemen's agreement to mirror monkey comps in apac

[forest token]

lmfao

[keen abyss]

apac are going to sign a blood pact to not touch double MS

[stuck radish]

this is like rein rush but without the cool strategies that come with it

[willow tartan]

this is like rein rush without the cool ult

[forest token]

this is

a genji meta

[stuck radish]

this is what the casual ow player saw goats as

[forest token]

and I am hating watching it

[old stag]

this is like rein rush but with a better main tank

[keen abyss]

apac is going to go on strike

[old stag]

and less CC

[forest token]

I have been dying for that character to be meta

for 4 years

[willow tartan]

boycott

[forest token]

and he is meta

and I do not want to watch it

[old stag]

cope

[willow tartan]

he was meta in 2020 ss

[keen abyss]

they are going to agree that the only damage that is allowed is monkey jump and melee

[forest token]

there are TWO FOUR SECOND BOOPS

[molten portal]

all i want now is orisa

[willow tartan]

i think you are not paying attention

[molten portal]

pls

[forest token]

he was meta for one patch

[old stag]

no stun frames

[forest token]

which I watched all of

[willow tartan]

for one tournament

that is pretty big

[forest token]

loved that patch

but outside of that one patch

[molten portal]

theres like 0 stuns anymore anyway

[keen abyss]

genji was meta in KC

was he not

[old stag]

exactly

[keen abyss]

for at least half of it

[old stag]

rein is a stun ult

JQ isnt

[forest token]

hahahahahaha I'm not stunned I just still can't play the fucking game don't worry though I'm not stunned

[shut bobcat]

Jq is even better

It’s anti

[willow tartan]

genji was meta for the entirety of kickoff clash (if your name was whoru)

[final musk]

If this is the meta I don’t want to live no more

[stuck radish]

this meta is probably the most braindead meta ive seen except for 2020 hog

[worn falcon]

chiyo mid lucio

[molten portal]

jq ult is free kills

[worn falcon]

unlike astro fun

[old stag]

DPS have mobility to navigate around boops

[willow tartan]

this wont be the meta in the tournament playoffs

[old stag]

tanks have KB resist

[willow tartan]

wait until the real big brain high calibre top teams play

[old stag]

cope

[willow tartan]

to determine the meta

[forest token]

KB resist doesn't re-enable your movement keys when you get booped

fun fact

[old stag]

top 4 teams in your opinion?

[forest token]

your wasd still get entirely disabled when you get booped

[worn falcon]

philly shaking the meta 🙏

[final musk]

Like, I’d never play support ever.

[old stag]

false?

[forest token]

because that is enjoyable

[shut bobcat]

Did you also think zarya hog was fun in qualifiers

[stuck radish]

also glads is not playing anywhere near like i thought they would

[willow tartan]

like top 2 in each region?

[stuck radish]

off day possibly but still

[willow tartan]

since we are not going to have

[old stag]

didn't watch qualifiers, wasnt streamed on OWL

[willow tartan]

joint tourmametn

[forest token]

that was changed I think around 2017, boops disable your movement midair

[willow tartan]

boop doesnt disable ur movement

[keen abyss]

big kevin moment

[forest token]

you used to be able to strafe counter to a boop and reduce how far it would throw you

you cannot do that anymore

[willow tartan]

if u strafe into a boop u go less far than if u dont

you can

[old stag]

sure

[willow tartan]

literally

[keen abyss]

LOL

WHO BOOPED BOB

[forest token]

ah yes

so when I strafe into a boop and go the same distance

[old stag]

skill issue

[forest token]

my movement was just enabled the entire time

[willow tartan]

u dont go the same distance

u are just fucking stupid

[old stag]

I have seen so many tanks shift midair to avoid getting booped off the map

[keen abyss]

kevin !

[forest token]

that's after the movement lock wears off

there's still a movement lock

[willow tartan]

have u never crouched to get booped less far

[forest token]

fuck man I need to download patch notes so I can search them

[hollow bough]

kevster so clean

[old stag]

kev diff

[willow tartan]

i think JQ will be played not much in thje actual tournament

[keen abyss]

mfs see one or two shaky maps and say kevin is not mvp level

[willow tartan]

purely because i look at the character and think she can be punished if ur team coordination is good enough

[keen abyss]

as proper chokes half of grand finals

[old stag]

Glads won last tournament and are playing JQ rn

[willow tartan]

???

how does that have to do with what i said

[restive nexus]

and still says he best of all time

[old stag]

actual tournament, top level teams, not playing JQ

did i miss smth?

[fast tusk]

to be fair with this comp, atleast you can kill things in here, in goats everything was fucking unkillable, this is better then goats

[hollow bough]

jq wasnt played last season

[willow tartan]

dude this is literally week 1

[forest token]

y'know whats crazy

[molten portal]

this is regular season bruh

[forest token]

things were more killable in goats

[keen abyss]

wrong

[willow tartan]

do you think that teams will perfect how to counter the hero

[molten portal]

not a tournament

[forest token]

because your burst potential was way higher

[willow tartan]

in 2 weeks of scrims

in a regular season game yes

like use ur brain dude

dont be dumb

[stuck radish]

i wonder if zarya will be played

[forest token]

the zen alone means you can deal so much more damage

[molten portal]

surely zarya just gets bodied

[hollow bough]

wasnt jq not available to owl last season

[old stag]

is it harder to learn how to counter a hero than learn how to play it?

[forest token]

yes

[hollow bough]

thats what i thought

[willow tartan]

week 1 u always see teams play the easiest shit they can get value with

and then in tournaments you see comps that are harder to get value from but are better succeed

[final musk]

Imma just hope this is some false flag meta to avoid getting all the cool shit nerfed.

[willow tartan]

cause in regular season u dont need to be the best

u just need to be better than 1 team

(the match u are playing)

[old stag]

that makes sense

[molten portal]

ans dies 1st 3 times

[old stag]

ans is a dice roll

he carried vs shock

[fast tusk]

omg what are glads doin lmao

[old stag]

but threw before that

[willow tartan]

GG glads lose

fielder has q

[molten portal]

HOLY

[fast tusk]

HUH ??????

[mortal cipher]

Huh

[old stag]

huh

[shut bobcat]

“Killed 4 but there’s 2 remaining”

[old stag]

C9

[willow tartan]

Sadiators part 714?

[stuck radish]

Edison

[old stag]

SEA NINE

[hollow bough]

lol

[maiden spoke]

[mortal cipher]

Did they

[fast tusk]

OMG

[molten portal]

Z9

[worn falcon]

charlie niners

[molten portal]

WTFFWGWHWJW

[stuck radish]

wow

[old stag]

HUH

[stuck radish]

ok

[keen abyss]

LOOOL

[fast tusk]

THE FUCKING C9

[keen abyss]

dallas doing a shock cosplay

[old stag]

wait

[mortal cipher]

Saditors return

[restive nexus]

LOLOLOLLOLOLOL

[old stag]

fuel is beating glads rn?

lmfao

[stuck radish]

if a reverse sweep happens because of this

[willow tartan]

Looks like he just saw someone get decapitated

[keen abyss]

we were lead to believe that reiner was caught out of position

he was actually the mega bait

[tepid ibex]

did nyxl really reverse sweep houston

wtf

[fast tusk]

the charlie 9 god is my glads side omegalul

[molten portal]

yes

[keen abyss]

remember kickoff clash

[fast tusk]

on

[keen abyss]

when dallas was the first team to reverse sweep

los angeles gladiators

[old stag]

:yep:

[willow tartan]

that wont happen

[stuck radish]

now that was an actual c9

[dreamy cave]

BRO THAT WAS TOP 10 BIGGEST C9s IN THIS SEASON

[keen abyss]

this is how it begins.

[old stag]

why are c9s happening so much wtf

[restive nexus]

oh wait ive had the stream muted this whole time

[stuck radish]

can your team win the jq mirror on push

[old stag]

this didn't happen in earlier seasons

[willow tartan]

c9s are happening so much because dumbasses keep labelling things that are not C9s as C9s

[old stag]

now it feels like it happens every map

[shut bobcat]

Reiner will do what hadi couldn’t

[keen abyss]

more of can dallas not collapse

[molten portal]

theres no off tank to stay on point

[willow tartan]

this was a C9, most things people call C9s this season are not C9s

[keen abyss]

remember when dallas full held philly on route

[old stag]

the original C9 wasn't that much of a c9, compared to what just happened

[forest token]

when was the patch with the aircontrol rework

[willow tartan]

disagree

[dreamy cave]

Imagine spawn camping on defence. And then getting rolled on offence on cooldown until one player who wasnt speed boosted with the team wins the match.

[willow tartan]

original C9 is literally just like straight up no excuses bad

[keen abyss]

have glads C9'd this season

[old stag]

that's just junker town

[dreamy cave]

Surely.

[old stag]

junker town is one of the least fun maps imo

[restive nexus]

yeah vs fuel during kc i believe

[old stag]

worse than hanamura

[molten portal]

i just realised ajax was on the opposite team when the og c9 happened

wtf

[fast tusk]

but there were so many more c9s in there favor

[molten portal]

its push now right

[old stag]

1k final blows

holy

[forest token]

wait the aircontrol patch just isn't in the notes

what the fuck

[old stag]

have you been searching all this time?

[keen abyss]

this is the first time

[forest token]

I was looking for the aircontrol patch because iirc that happened around the same time

[old stag]

they just walked off

[keen abyss]

legday/lemonkiwi duo

[old stag]

wtf

[forest token]

but it's just not there

[keen abyss]

has gotten a chuckle out of me

[forest token]

https://www.gamesear.com/news/overwatch-devs-have-released-a-detailed-explanation-of-the-recent-movement-update

[cunning patrol]

glads are awful

[forest token]

I'm not crazy and it did happen

[cunning patrol]

WTF

[forest token]

but it's not in the notes

[fast tusk]

pfft LMAOO

[forest token]

the fuck

[stuck radish]

now

do glads win push

[willow tartan]

no

[stuck radish]

wait its colosseo they might

[twin bloom]

Their sandbagging and I have basis

[old stag]

this means higher air control

[twin bloom]

For this claim

[willow tartan]

why would the gladiators sandbag

[forest token]

yes

I was looking for the patch in the notes

[willow tartan]

they are not guaranteed for the playoffs at this point

they need W's

[twin bloom]

They won twice

[forest token]

and it just isn't there

[twin bloom]

Imo

They can chill

[willow tartan]

they are not guaranteed for the playoffs at this point

[old stag]

wait

hasn't genji been meta

since OW2 started?

[forest token]

no

tracer took over

[molten portal]

was it an issue with doom

[willow tartan]

rather watch tracer soj than fucking genji soldier

that was so ass

[old stag]

I remember pati playing genji on lijiang in the first OW2 league tourney

[forest token]

no cuz lucio boop goes farther than it used to as well

like

I remember strafing old boop

and I always go "right that takes me farther than it used to"

[willow tartan]

u are delusional

[cunning patrol]

@twin bloom where is your evidence

[old stag]

cope

[molten portal]

probably

[final musk]

yuuup. and i'd sure rather watch any support pairing other than this one.

[dreamy cave]

This meme is late. But ladies and gentlemen. Goats is back, (sorta).

[forest token]

it's just not a goats

[willow tartan]

I would not want to watch mercy moira

[forest token]

if it had the moira I'd see the goats

[final musk]

ill take that over this shit.

[forest token]

with the necrotic orb

this is just shit

[willow tartan]

U are weird sir

[old stag]

I'm glad moira aint meta

[molten portal]

brig lucio is so zzzzzzzzzz

[old stag]

I like seeing lucio in league games

[stuck radish]

destroy jq and brig

imo

[mortal cipher]

TIHI

[willow tartan]

I cant wait to watch fleta brig

[old stag]

does shock have a brig player?

[willow tartan]

viol1t

[molten portal]

viol2t

[willow tartan]

viol2t is shock's everything player

[stuck radish]

viol3t

[molten portal]

his brig is pretty nasty

[old stag]

nice

[stuck radish]

i would rather have finn brig just because i really dont want finn lucio

[molten portal]

i cant wait for mikeyy lucio

[shut bobcat]

Shock only has 2 supports right

[stuck radish]

yeah

[molten portal]

yuh

[forest token]

oh well

patch notes are incomplete

what can you do

[old stag]

edison deadlift

[willow tartan]

they arent

u are just delusional

[forest token]

they straight up are

I literally just sent an example of an article that was written about a change

that isn't in the patch notes

[fast tusk]

huhhh

gg

[old stag]

cope

[forest token]

they're just straight up incomplete

[molten portal]

fuel look ok

[willow tartan]

gamesrear.com is not blizzard entertainment

[fast tusk]

rip everyones preds today

[willow tartan]

could be just completely made up

[forest token]

it's quoting a bluepost

after that was the bug where tiny ledges would grab you

so you'd jump on monkey and get slammed into the ground by a pebble

after the aircontrol change

not in the notes

[molten portal]

oh i dont like the names over the top down view

[old stag]

doha washed

[forest token]

I have a clip where I try to jump from mid on hanamura B attack and get sucked back down by a ledge

[old stag]

skill issue

[forest token]

was a bug

[molten portal]

doha is doing good

[forest token]

so

[stuck radish]

wublade unfortunately

[willow tartan]

not skill issue

brain issue

[stuck radish]

dont worry glads fans kevster is here

[forest token]

my guy likes watching brig lucio over 76 genji so

[stuck radish]

to save the day

[old stag]

they could play 76 in goats for his biotic field

joats*

[molten portal]

what

[forest token]

now you're just trolling

lmfao

[old stag]

true

[willow tartan]

I would rather watch NA dota2 than soldier metas

[restive nexus]

they could have just gained lead

[willow tartan]

dont worry glads ahve ults

[molten portal]

i think they needed to fight that up there tbh

[old stag]

what are they doing

[keen abyss]

reiner is used to this he is a ball player

[molten portal]

ok gg

[forest token]

dude this game is so shit

[stuck radish]

wow

[fast tusk]

gg

[willow tartan]

ok they just decided to not ult and then throw it away when the fight is already lost

glads are playing poopie

[stuck radish]

kevster & friends

[forest token]

in a non-shit meta

that's an easy wipe

because they got first pick and cornered hanbin

but it's this meta

so the heals just don't care

[old stag]

BRO

[forest token]

nasty fucking m2 combo by kevster as well

[keen abyss]

wait

[forest token]

there's no way they win this

[keen abyss]

no way

[old stag]

NO WAY

[forest token]

holup

[molten portal]

nvm

zzz

[stuck radish]

how do glads always win colosseo

[old stag]

that was cool

[forest token]

this game is so shit

[molten portal]

fastro diff

[fast tusk]

OMGOOODAAAA

[forest token]

this fucking game

is so fucking bad

[keen abyss]

oh my god

[shut bobcat]

Glads are the best colloseo players

[old stag]

??? that was good gameplay

[restive nexus]

Lets goooo

[keen abyss]

those crazy motherfuckers

[fast tusk]

NO SHOT THAT HAPPENS

[brave zenith]

no way

[keen abyss]

they did it again

[brave zenith]

lmao

[old stag]

no way you call that "shit gameplay"\

[keen abyss]

they did it to shock

[forest token]

not the gameplay

[keen abyss]

then they did it to dallas

[forest token]

the game

[old stag]

surely you're trolling

surely

[keen abyss]

never count gladiators out of a colloseo game

[forest token]

come back in a few months after ow2 releases

see if you like what you're playing

[twin bloom]

Idk barely watched

So far

[old stag]

I've played all the betas, its not good but its better than whatever the fuck OW1 is smoking right now

[forest token]

funny thing is

it's not

it's worse

people just haven't learned how to play ow2 yet

[vagrant cargo]

This game would not be close if reiner wasn't shit on jq

[old stag]

you like how cass plays?

you like right click randy?

[vagrant cargo]

But he will probably Improve

[forest token]

who gives a fuck about cass

character's dogshit in both games

[tepid ibex]

his jq is pretty mid

[vagrant cargo]

His Winston was mid as fuck too at first

[forest token]

why would I care

[keen abyss]

@vagrant cargo agreed

[willow tartan]

as soe is not returning until next season who do you guys think is going to be the special guest for this tournament cycle for summer showdown

[molten portal]

my preds were actually ok today tbf

[fast tusk]

wait really ?

[vagrant cargo]

Also

[keen abyss]

my favorite esports discussion member memeicus

[tepid ibex]

ow2 is defintely better than ow1

[vagrant cargo]

Kevster is the goat

[forest token]

again

[vagrant cargo]

Of OW2

[keen abyss]

will be there to guide shanghai to victory

[brave zenith]

😢

[old stag]

honestly the best thing about switching to one tank is sigma's obsolescence

[forest token]

come back a couple months after ow2 launch

and see if you feel the same

[old stag]

i hate getting bouldered every three seconds

[vagrant cargo]

Best player in the world

[twin bloom]

Shu is the best souj

[forest token]

ow2 lets you get away with more because players are shit

[twin bloom]

On glads

Seemingly

[vagrant cargo]

Yes

[forest token]

ow1 people have a better idea of how to play

[keen abyss]

mechanically sure

[forest token]

so come back after people learn how to play ow2 and see if you still like it

[vagrant cargo]

Ans has been okay on ashe tho

[forest token]

I know I won't

[stuck radish]

wait until you hear he was the best tank in beta 2 (except in contenders/owl)

[vagrant cargo]

Thoughts on funnyastro being the KDB of ow @cunning patrol

[forest token]

sig still better than zar and dva lmfao

[molten portal]

sig is pretty strong

[forest token]

he has a niche

zar and dva don't

[keen abyss]

i think shu's dps positioning and ability usage may be shaky though

[forest token]

his slows were pretty bad

aim was fine

[old stag]

zar's niche is hard carrying when your dps are dogshit

[forest token]

zar's niche is losing

[old stag]

^

[vagrant cargo]

Zar was played for a loads of maps wasn't she

[forest token]

by shit teams

[vagrant cargo]

And dva was like the perfect niche hero

[forest token]

or trolling teams

[old stag]

they played her on KR

glads did iirc

[molten portal]

in kc

[twin bloom]

Zarya was perma meta in the alpha

[vagrant cargo]

Dallas went all the way to finals with zarga lmfao

[forest token]

they played her a lot until glads shitstomped the best zar team in the league

[twin bloom]

When titans were big 5

It was ssd

[forest token]

and what happened in finals

remind me

[twin bloom]

What happened

[vagrant cargo]

Kevster happened

[twin bloom]

After the alpha

[willow tartan]

google says that blizzard entertainment maternity leave is more than 3 months

therefore

[forest token]

it wasn't kevster

[willow tartan]

no soe

[forest token]

glads were just the only team that fucking figured out how to beat the zar

[vagrant cargo]

It was kevster

[forest token]

so they shitstomped

[vagrant cargo]

He's the best player itw

[willow tartan]

unless soe decides to come back early and blizzard decides to allow her to break the law