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meta will start out with the jq stuff, but I think teams will slowly move more towards poke/winston dive
yes
ok yeah makes sense
dallas would need to actively throw to not qualify
dallas has a roster solid enough to make every tourney at least
I was on a Custa stream and everyone was talking about Ashe/echo being meta
sojourn is incredibly op tho
also fuel have nyxl uprising defiant mayhem as highly winnable games
Yeah
with the hard games being glads shock
i personally do not think they beat shock
They said it was either gonna be Ashe/echo or Genji/Sojourn
because if it is ashe echo
kilo ashe > whoever plays ashe on dallas
and proper echo clears sparkle
what dps will be run will depend on what team is playing
Ashe Echo, NYXL should be pretty good
ah you are right
dallas will just force genji
Wouldn't be surprised to see dallas run a lot of winston genji
don't let people lie to you
nyxl will not be near good in this meta
NYXL have more FS players
than they do wins
be quiet
I meant DPS wise they will be good, everywhere else, they will suck
nyxl dps wise is usually fine
nyxl have as many flex support players as all other roles combined
but their dps isn't their issue
NYXL Need better tank and a FUCKING MAIN SUPPORT
their issue is myunbong is hard mid and kellan is a let down
myunbong is not mid
lmfao
Ho1 is benching the b0ng
Ngl, NYXL just need to hire Slime
neither are mid
myunbong has not been very good this season
yet you would say he is middle of the pack
tbh near bottom for FSs in NA
Slime and Gangnamjin, could be what the NYXL need rn
Not much else they can do
Ho1 is a good player
It's a good time for redemption. The Titans and the Justice are doing well in scrims at the moment. Moreover, Vancouver has a rather easy strength of schedule.
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@frosty patrol
"the Justice is doing well in scrims at the moment"
Ngl, I want Titans to make play ins
I need justice to do bad
So titans
Make playinns
Maybe
Potentialy
Justice and boston
Boston, Paris, NYXL, Justice shit the end and it could happen
snail moment
I think ho1 is below mid
but much better than the b0ng
They will not do that
I'm gonna watch today's play chat stream
Imo
They do
If titans win every game
But 2
(GLADS AND FUEL)
when did xzi diff heesu
he literally got rawdogged on the map he played against defiant
like
the only map toronto won was the one map with heesu rolling xzi
That was one map
thats literally the only map they played against each other iirc lol
so how did xzi diff heesu harder
when he only faced him once and got smoked
i remember heesu gapping xzi on widowmaker in season 3 too
heesu owns xzi unfortunately
He does
who's worse? MM DSF or MM DSF
you can pick if I am sayin midseason madness or may melee
and which year
MM 2020 Dallas beats MM 2022 Dallas
ok but actually tho? like teamwise I think 2022 is better except hitscan, it's just meta and 5v5 that causes 2022 MM fuel to be shit
Dallas 2022 is just 2021 dallas but with a better MS
And a HS
Objectively the better roster
better roster worse team
Cuz fearless and hanbin can't be together
^^^
And they have a pretty bad DPS line
Which puts me in pain to say because I love SP9RK1E
Doha never plays
Edison Reaper 1 trick
their main issue is lack of a superstar dps
Guriyo just isn't good
A lot of top teams generally have at least 1 dps that dicks teams down
Dallas just lack that, and in 5v5 they can't exploit extreme tank synergy to roll teams
sparkle cannot unless he is on genji
Debatable but fair
or doom and he gets nervous
people like proper/kevster/lip/kai/pelican can do it on multiple heroes
Honestly they should've tried SP9RK1E Doomfist
It probably would've done pretty well
Sp9 is mid
The thing is, you see playing tank even if they're fat dps, isnt the same
Danteh says otherwise
SP9RK1E was best Doom Overwatch 1
That skill is still prevalent in the hero
that too
So we can see the Guriyo Doha gameplay let’s goooooooo!!!
That is probably why he doesn't LOL
Literally should've gotten Gwangboong instead of fucking Guriyo
He’s never going to that
Sadly
Idk Edison is better than Guriyo but they want to develop Guriyo for some weird reason
So Edison has gotten even worse when he was never that great due to lack of scrim time and Guriyo is still bad
Edison was good stage 1 because Reaper actually worked
He is a decent player
Who is probably no longer decent because of splitting scrims with Guriyo
I actually look forward to seeing Seeker play
I think if Boston try to go a big place for American Contenders talent to play in the OWL they'd be more exciting
Boston are just bad
Like get Lukemino next season or some shit
Atl and titans will always be better in that regard
Don't say Titans are better than anything
I think other than Florida of all time they're the worst team
Their record isn't the worst in the League just because of s2
They are objectively better at signing NA players than boston
Imo
Titans are better at losing
They missed mikeyy
Boston signed mikeyy
Not a contest
Imo
Just not EU players
Imagine signing Skairipa to play more than Kyb for the Fusion
Bos is a mess
I believe in nyxl this stage!:)
I believe in nyxl this stage!:)
I believe in nyxl this stage!:)
I believe in nyxl this stage!:)
I do not believe in nyxl!:(
Double MS seems viable and they have 3 Flex Supports
nyxl are meta definers
hey guys
I have an excellent piece of trivia
what are the three nations to be home to a chengdu player
in history
Ansoonjae?
Absoonjae nyxl is such a random ass signing
realistically its not that crazy
I believe in nyxl this stage!:)
has to be a player
?
Why is he there
I'm pretty sure JFeel is the first Korean they signed
as a coach
yes
name the players and nations
it is mainland china and taiwan
1 example from each
not sure on the 3rd
Ating leave silkthread 💯💯💯💯
jazzy is right
hellfire has had his mind bent
W
silkthread hunters happened
wtf when
Goodbye Professional Overwatch: A Journey Ended
Read: https://t.co/g71YjiPpUm
5760
597
Sexy link
of course not
okay it slipped my brain
but neither did esca for seoul and he is also a fun trivia piece
it's been covered up to the point of not even being on liquipedia
i did search it up on liquipedia
bc i was stumped
after the first 2
fuck i should have guessed usa
hellfire exposed as google searcher
weren't you like 9
needs another MS player
for potential jq meta
lackluster support line without that
Mayhem would be top tier in a rein rush with ana
Majed just runs it down mid with ana perfect strat tbh
Thailand China for players I think some americans and koreans in org
they get to run checkmate rein once more
true, hyrdon idfk, chadmate, xzi on whatever anamo lucio and majed on ana
strat?
easy
run it down mid and kill everything or die
Is this real?
Too late, season write off
Ye
I like this plan
Bronze comp.in a nutshell
which would be the only way nyxl could play if kuki was a player coach that wasn't announced ig
nyxl signed ansoonjae
I’m so sad
wonder how long he's had a visa for? The fact they're suggesting he goes straight into the lineup makes me think this has been done for a while
great pickup for NY though
that is huge what are you saying?
I don't see them dropping ho1
I’m a better ms
It would kinda of be a slap to the face to him
so now only shock n outlaws don't have a ms
or well a dedicated ms
Ansoonjae was kinda eh but he was on fucking defiant so you can't expect much from that team last year
to be fair
he performed better in contenders
and had enough of a redemption arc to be considered a better player than FiXa
does this mean gangnamjin can finally play fs
stop having hate boner on your teams support and tank line
challenge: impossible
fixa/aimgod/belosrea have been good and very important during the last torny run
idkm about fury tho
hopefully
but next meta is brig lucio
so ANJ Lucio Ho1/GNJ/MYB Brig?
i thought he
was awful
in krc
lmfao
Nyxl coaching will whip him into shape
Gesture 🐐
Gesture is a top 5 coach
He wasn’t brilliant but he put up a better performance on lucio in one Contenders season than FiXa has in his whole career
I do not trust ur assessment of MS players sadly
However I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s much better than fixa
@MrMooseVA i get that its indicative of the season overall but man, twilight and krillin in the same tier feels like a crime
also gonna be the usual insufferable fusion fan and suggest fixa to A :)
@hot onyx thoughts on this whole thread
this mf wants FiXa in A when he isn't even above Kaan tier??
You should give your thoughts on the very solid tier list
alright lemme log into my burner to see the list because Moose blocked me for saying that Pr🤮v1de doesn't deserve a second chance in OWL about 3 months before his exposure
SUPERICH A??
nah this guy does not watch apac
fucker looks at Spark results and thinks everyone on the team is built equally
CH0R0NG Twilight in the same tier as FiXa and Aimgod
i want to say the word but i have been legally advised by a moderator not to
Uninformed moderator
It’s ableist for him to deny you of your right to say that word
Or her
saying "i want to say the word" is good enough of a right
nah this guy does not have Lengsa as the worst main support in the leagye
Lengsa is better than
Lastro is A'
this schmuck actually only looks at the scores and reads reddit
the only part i can agree with is the bottom two and the top three
MOTHERFUCKER HAS CH0R0NG B?
that is average once you see the Superich placement
Chronicle is kind of trolling despite what the scoreboard says imho
how
He is braindead
m3c didnt lose a pistol so nfar
What’s the next game
TL vs navi
TL 2-0
no
Navi are solid
But TL have too many goats
goats ?
all aim no brain
simply not true
What is
playing astra = having a brain
M3c are winning champs it’s official
Disagree
astra is p easy
Jady is so good
chronicle gets 3 and loses the round
that doesnt make sense
It does but ok
lets see if oglu can win a pistol
wtf
bro i came back and saw a b split at 0-0 on pistol and thought they restarted the match
it was 1-5
if they can get back soon they will finish it today if not its gonna be postponed for tomorrow
LOL
what us happening bruh
are they finally growing braincells
they dropped myun
the bong has not been good at fs even during the 2x fs
they dropped myun
nyxl stops being a idiot for a bit
omg
is this on their best hero or overall?
the bong has not been good at fs even during the 2x fs
the bong has not been good at fs even during the 2x fs
why are people saying they hope he finds another team that allows him to shine at his "top tier potential" when he was literally the worst player on his team 💀
Just how owl twitter is
Fuckin Wub gets hyped on that platform somehow
https://twitter.com/aphrodiow/status/1557342650424074240?s=21 I found Crimzo’s brother
crimzgoat
i saw his gf tweeting about how he was gapping shu
shit was hilarious
Any sources?
im not going through her 15k tweets
Oh yeah I forgot non OWL players tweeted more than “gg” and complaints about lack of ranked in OW2
its his girlfriend
so she jus be tweetin
i publically complained about it
the csw ranking is so dumb
ZEST not in same tier as AlphaYi?
This fucker literally doesn’t watch apac
fucking “show the score samuel”
i disagree with the placements of becky although carpe csh victoria nero finale pelican xzi ans fleta sparkr mer1t mn3 kilo fits happy edison zest/alphay
becky although carpe csh pelican fits happy too low
Lip in A
CARPE C
almost half of C tier does not deserve C tier
Lip, Pelican, SparkR, ChoiSehWan
s9mm pelican same tier
Nero is b shut up
Man has Fleta St3lker Yaki SparkR Sp9rk1e above Pelican
by what metric
to the moose tweet?
no the tier list
I don’t
send the tweet link then
????
Every metric
Nero has been league average this season
Middle of B is fair
by a FDPS tier list it is respectable
first comment
imo
i see
Where does mr ro fit then?
is backbone A+
jingoat tier
actually jingoat is better on tracer pharah genji and arguably hanzo
Performed better with weaker team mates
Backbone is mei hanzo 2 trick
this is a decent tier list
He just one tricks mei lol
jinmu is highly flexible
Tho his zen
and csw C
among other placements
okay yeah those 2 are bad placements
I'm also not sure if I'd put mn3 over zest
mn3 had that one insane pop off game but felt like zest had been more consistent
Tier list of the OWL 2022 DPS players heading into the first season of OW2. Also, don't take too much stock in what hero is attributed with each player, it's just there as a visualizer. Rank the players based on all their overall talent and value more than just their individual heroes.
(List made April 9th, 2022 - will likely be outdated thro...
i found this
for owl dps
and he just forgot develop it seems
Eh sod it. Rumour going around regarding Houston is that they have Doge & Lep coming in.
Is it true? Not a clue
He’s back already
Lol what
who is doge
Eu main tank
Eu MT been on mid teams his whole career
Lulsish robbed
Tbh
thoughts on my tier list
??!!
maybe s9mm is B+ which is sad cuz i love hating on him
same with patiphan
Alright
Fuck it.
If it’s going to piss the PR gobblers off more than bowing out.
Like Tyson Fury, I’m officially unretiring

wr
Lol

he'll probably get a leak wrong again next week
the league clowns on him
and he retires again
and then comes back
I don’t think myonbong new he was getting dropped
ofc they drop one of the fs they already have
but then again
the titans support roster just needs a reset
myun is not a good signing for titans
i am in your walls
? @devout path
.
Wait nyxl didn't even bother telling myun he was getting dropped?
never underestimate the TL click head diff
how fucking hard is it
to just type out a small thing
for a leaving player
who cares if its sincere or real
no way
nyxl just fucked up 😭
@earnest leaf finally dropped myunbong
Looked like it was tweeted early lol
he got the Adam treatment
oh my god they probably meant to send ansoonjae announcement earlier
but sent that instead
was expected when they got Ho1 tbh
holy fuck that must hurt for the smm and myunbong
That just sucks for myun
imagine not telling your players "you got the boot"
how does nyxl do pr stuff with sbb and libero
but refuses to properly announce a departure
Main support and main tank for Outluls?
outlaws needed a MT if they wanted any chance at any success in the future tbf
Especially with doom about to fall off a cliff
could have chosen one
that was a bit better
imo
who have expedit visa?
They needed one with an american visa at the ready
and ready to jump
Cycle continues
Doge: Since I'm a mid-season pickup & I'm situated in Europe, I will not be coming to the Outlaws facility since it wouldn't be worth it to go through the whole visa process. I will however attend the LAN tournaments ^___^
Like G(aming) i(ntellectual) G(od)
??
agreed
gig washed
WHO
Doge: Since I'm a mid-season pickup & I'm situated in Europe, I will not be coming to the Outlaws facility since it wouldn't be worth it to go through the whole visa process. I will however attend the LAN tournaments ^___^
Ok
Lmaoo
That is strange
Why did lulsish
Get robbed
So hard
Lol
And Lukemino
Gotta let the mino go
Unless Lep is secretly what Ojee was supposed to be
On the lucio champ
Ojee is top 5
And its just eu people who think
Masaa is better
Disagree
Used to think*
Ojee is not better than CH0R0NG ChiYo Vindaim Fastro and FeedJaeGon this season
Imo
yveltal
Far better
you mean
Roolf performed better with a worse team
roolf did not perform better
Oh yeah LJG has been shit this tourney
I’m still stuck in the past
Faith @cunning patrol
Did nyxl drop myunbong??
Agree
Ojee has pretty good mechanics
But suffers from NA syndrome
Which will improve over time
yea myunbong is probably dropped atm
They realised his performance this season doesn’t deserve gratitude
mr jazzy what is na syndrome
Brain lag
ah ok
Lol
Nyxl becoming a clown org before our very eyes
@vagrant cargo Is doge good?
Ojee clears shitgon sadly
Main support drought getting rougher
NYXL
NYXL
In the wake of waning confidence in the Overwatch League, the Washington Justice is looking to significantly decrease its competitive spending.
By @YiskaOut
😭
nah
they drop literally everyone
and go full usa
If they payed anything more than 50k for
Them
They got ripped of
Imo
kalios and krillin might've been just above minimum
opener is definitely minimum
Is that the play? Pay big numbers for top rookies, destroy their careers so you can retain them next seasons for cheap
Assassin was never a top rookie
Iirc owl coaches said he wasn't even top 5 flex dps
In KRC
I think it was packing10
Mag had shitons of hype tho
- gamer god Woohyal
At arguably the peak of his entire career
The social media manager was notified before the player
I'm officially going to become a spitfire fan if the rumors are real about the justice
@OMyunbong the lines of communication are so messed up and im so sorry this happened to you. nattie was just told "post this" and they did.
again im sorry this happened to you as a fan i am so sad.
winston has only left room in my mind for me to be confused and convinced that his goofy ah is one that is fortified by things humans cannot describe. A sense un-senseable by man, many call this feeling a thing called love, but i like to call this thing, dick and balls. This thing that cannot be described has left a clear image in my mind. this thing is an unescapable feeling that i can't show. Many people show this in different ways, but like to call mein, Winston
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🧐
reign have won a stage?
mickey mouse
agreed
So Shock actually won midseason madness?
classic hellfire shock cope
when did i say that
stage 4 2019 didnt have a stage finals
this twt account's logic
is that they were 1st seed
la valiant are the forever stage 4 champions

100% stage 4 wr
I hope we cut through the drama and focus on getting players connected to new teams or at least released into free agency.
The trade deadline is closing on August 18th. Time is of the essence.
Careers are inevitably going to be ruined in the next week. Let's focus on that.
atl are gonna thrive in this meta, right along with glads
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NYXL 👑
ong
ong
my instincts tell me that atlanta will be stronger than shock this stage
maybe i just underrate finn a lot but he's never been a top 5 fs for me
Atlanta doesn't have any edge over shock this stage unless they have a much better jq player
ojee is a better lucio than viol2t and that's it
my gut tells me UV brig > finn brig
hard to say
and with speedily coming in they get a much needed upgrade to FDPS
Don't think either have played it this year
kai > kilo
proper > speedily
ojee >> viol2t
uv probably > finn
finn lucio was tragic i do not have faith on him off of FS
if shock consistently put finn on lucio there should be an investigation for match fixing
Viogoat imo
viol2t doesn't get enough credit imo
He's pretty much played every support to a high level
Even his lucio has shown to be solid now
He has performed like a goat this season
Unironically
His MS was top 7
His Lucio*
Maybe 8th if ur counting LJG
HOLY SHIT, NEW YORK ACTUALLY HAVE A MAIN SUPPORT
lmao once again slander
viol2t finn is a good support duo
in double ms ?
will be in this meta as well
i will believe it when i see it
cope glads wont have shu
kevin carried by shu
glads still on comfort picks
reiner jq isnt
i trust reiner on jq more than most other tanks on the league
because of his flexibility and mechanics
we will see
we will
i agree as well but
still has guriyo edison at his side
although i do think fielder will be a good brig
all i am saying is that the brig is one of the most important heroes in the comp
and glads literally have a brig specialist alongside the arguable best lucio in the league
idk if skewed is still top brig bc ow1 and ow2 brig have a few key differences
but if he still stays at the top glads have the best backline and it's not even close
without even having shu in
imagine having the best supp in the league on the bench and still having the best supp line
is this how 2020 shock felt
actually philly did have alarm fastro
which is a very strong contender for best supp line in 2020
they did not have
twilight
on the bench
which put shock supp
over fusion
imo
definitely the top 2 of that year though
Florida will be good
And Gladiators will be good
I feel Houston too
I wonder if Danteh will pick up the JQ or Doge
looking for a duo lol
how about you look for some bitches
Not the place to look
Had it coming
Never talk in esports discussion if your new
Also
When do apac games start
In Dubai
Bc that’s all I can watch
So I will be viewing
And support fusion🔥
why the fuck would u end this message with lol
like what is the logic
hahahaha laughing that I want a duo?
also im back in spain so all the matches r like at night for me
No APAC games today right? Just NA?
Also what do you have pred wise for tonight's matches?
Not new york
Florida in a 3-1, houston 3-0, and depending on if fuel are gods like i think they will then fuel 3-2
But realistically glads 3-1
goats
and everyone somehow forgot that fielder plays a nutty brig
one bad tourny cycle doesnt change the fact that they did get second in the KC and are all insane players
spark is the 3rd best team in the league
while I agree it's looking like a co-ordination heavy meta and that's what Fuel are known for (or at least they were last season), the fact remains hitscan is still a part of this meta and Guriyo isn't stepping up enough to compete with the top hitscans in the league, also I don't remember Fielder ever playing Brig, wasn't it always Jecse last year?
counterpoint edison
counterpoint doha
counterpoint sombra
also no for some reason jecse was benched for like all of the may melee, the tournament that they actually won
we saw like fielder ms for like 4 games
the only things that give me hope for Fuel in this meta: Sparkle Genji, Chiyo Lucio and probably Hanbin being cracked on JQ
fearless
also i think sombra genji would be sick in this meta
afaik no contenders teams played sombra
The large majority of people, Danteh included overreacted/misread that part.
I never said he demanded it, just that he had a preference/wanted to if he could.
Believe it or not, I don’t care but It was Houston’s coaching staff for the most part that wanted the change
OWL Twitter having a normal day
And just saw justice going broke
I thought Halo is done with overwatch?
Came back two days ago
Been rinsed on Twitter already
Been scrapping with Danteh again
My preds for tomorrow, am I in the wrong
That’s a 2 for the mayhem
I have the same but NY getting a map
Yaki Genji/Flora Ashe? Seems good
they have a MS now
only question is if Kellan can step up as JQ
u suck
you have london losing to BOSTON?!?! you criminal, how dare you, you absolute chimpazoid
london are leagues above boston
this is heresy
Just NA that means more time to listen to Sans and Mike for a video I'm editing
L
what is this NY confidence?
I can see NY getting a map against Outlaws but no more than that
have you ever heard of internal issues
Piggy I'd imagine will be a strong JQ
if half the team is thinking about how they're about to get dropped or traded
you can reason they won't play near 100%
OWLEL this is so sad press F to pay respects
yeah about 12 hours ago isn't enough time to sync a database that's still missing Xerneas Apr1ta and Doge
Lep and ansoonjae missing? get outta here
based August 14th believer
be nice
A
loser
when does that heavy update release again?
what
Sans Explains The Joke™️
this statement is based off your current interest shifting further towards Team Fortress 2 instead of Overwatch, and I ask you about the heavy update which has been scheduled to release for a long time but hasn’t, implying that you are a loser for playing a game without free updates, as opposed to Overwatch which has a full sequel scheduled to release in two months
okay!
i'd rather get no new content instead of a new game breaking hero every 3 months which brings in a new shitty meta like goats or double shield
Unless you count brig there is no double shield in OW2
You’re a shit stale meta
cope more british fuck
I do, as in most literal cases it's still technically double shield
goats n OG 2x shield was so fun
i disagree
Doom Reaper 2x Shield was some of the best games ever
only doom is fun to watch in that comp
reaper is never fun
just click click press q
i did like the double shield variant with genji
reaper is ultra fun for me
but that's personal take
doom/reaper/genji 2x shield kinda rush comp
so fun
opinions differ ye
yeah
im a tf2 player and im way more used to mobile characters and stuff
I played a shit load of csgo before ow so that's why I like hitscan pretty much but ow has a lot of close ranged units that I like a lot
mobile closed range are the best kinds
big differences between those 2 games
Yeah but it's why I fucked with 76 so hard, csgo and cod and stuff like that
1 game has a active community and the other community just wants the game to get 1 single update 
so widow/76 were the first two I played often
This u?
as long as u have sufficient aim
it's funny how this can both apply to ow and csgo to certain extents
nah not at all
playing tf2 is suffering
edison reaper
maybe sojo can be replaced by reaper who knows
yeah this is definitely you tho
fuck his voice is so annying
Boughston Uhprising
your personality is annoying
i know
Boston would be much better without Victoria Valentine Punk Shitsal Faith Crimzo and MCD
rebuild around Seeker
factually incorrect infant
double shield is fun if you are not the orisa
and goats is fun when it doesn't last for three months
i last for three months
why am i getting purple duplicates when i still dont have all the purples unlocked
chances of that are low but still possible
edging beta
took u like 2 minutes to type that
Lol
sans u have never touched a female
that is because i have never had the opportunity to touch females
no bitches
no nans
bruh
come back when you find a female that willingly watches OWL
get off my nan
no
then who
u know
crimzo/punk are consistently the best on boston
im not spending any more time with ed shitters
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sans what are u on about
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