proper shits on profit on any charcater
#esports-discussion
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balmy wolf
Yeah
balmy wolf
Bad tourney, none of seoul were playing top lol
willow drum
??? doesnt matter if its a bad tourney or not
still cant excuse
a mechanical difference
your team preforming well or not doesn't really affect a tracer 1v1
it's just can you outplay the enemy tracer
and profit did not outplay venom
who is not even close to top 5
and pelican is better on echo sombra pharah hanzo mei
balmy wolf
Profit is top 3 fdps, has been since season 1.
fathom igloo
Nah you are on something pelican proper kevster all are better
willow drum
Profit is top 3 fdps, has been since season 1.
he hasn't been lmao
profit top 3 fdps
in season 4???
mf seoul did not make a single tournament or playoffs
fathom igloo
Pelican exsists and is better
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that year
profit tracer is overrated lmao
he's mechanically b tier on that character
it's just smurf is insane at coordinating
so he gets value
balmy wolf
LMAO
willow drum
alphayi and zest both clear profit as well
fathom igloo
Profile isn't even top 3 in apac
willow drum
Profile isn't even top 3 in apac
he is
lol
i dont count leave as fdps because he was in HS jail for his team
fleta is not > profit
alphayi zest both better than fraudpit
fathom igloo
Fleta on his peak is better
willow drum
Fleta on his peak is better
he's nowhere near his peak
he is B tier at best
in current meta
Also Shanghai does not have a better supportline than Seoul
because Vindaim is > LJG
balmy wolf
Profit is the goat. He stays top 3, disagree = braindead + lip believer
willow drum
Profit is the goat. He stays top 3, disagree = braindead + lip believer
he's not top 3
lip carries shanghai to tournaments
fathom igloo
Profit is the goat. He stays top 3, disagree = braindead + lip believer
Bro you are just bias
fathom igloo
Ah makes sense
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yaki gaps profit
fathom igloo
See as someone who watches OWL I know that profit isn't top 3
north relic
yes he would
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heesang sucks sadly
fathom igloo
Profit is on the decline imho
willow drum
heesang clears
topdragon clears
jimmy clears
viper clears
go cope harder you flora fan
flora is nowhere near S tier bozo
willow drum
he got gapped by kilo
north relic
he was lucky
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on dorado
willow drum
he was lucky
kilo won 2 widow duels in a row
while flora was midair
and both were flicks
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luck
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ok
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he can hit the jackpot twice
cunning patrol
If ur logic for a player being better is 2 duels
It is not very good logic
With that being said kilo clears
willow drum
It is not very good logic
my logic
is that a
s++++++++++++ player
should not lose widow duels to an A tier player
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do u believe that profit is a top 3 fdps
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he's mechanically b tier on that character
I agree
But I also think
He is better than fleta
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fleta is ass
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Profit is on the decline imho
I disagree
In fact
He is probably having his best season
Since s2
keen abyss
i want to put them higher but i need at least a little bit of actual evidence to do so
north relic
i want to put them higher but i need at least a little bit of actual evidence to...
the evidence
keen abyss
shanghai at least took some matches in the tourney
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is if yveltal has manga
keen abyss
shanghai won 3-0 back to back
then had one really bad match against shock
seoul immediately lost 3-0 to spark
a worse team than shock
seoul are lucky i kept them above the tier break
after what spark did to them
devout path
it was a fluke
keen abyss
i think seoul atlanta seoul and shanghai are relatively interchangeable
atlanta beat both of them but atlanta is also the worst of the 3 in regular season
but i think the mfs who overfactor tourney placements into their tier lists
are not intelligent
looking at atlanta regular season they do not deserve top 3
keen abyss
can i really put atlanta top 4 after what happened with london
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can i really put atlanta top 4 after what happened with london
yes
they clearly bounced back
keen abyss
they lose to teams in the tier break below them a bit often for me to have faith in them
lost thicket
who is better rn outlaws or fuel
lost thicket
they lose to teams in the tier break below them a bit often for me to have faith...
playoffs profit ? outdated Playoffs atlanta activated
lost thicket
who is better rn outlaws or fuel
also side take the top 2 dooms are western imo, Danteh/Reiner top 2 coluge/muze 3rd or 4th
tho I don't really know how to gauge the dooms
also marve1
keen abyss
i'd go with outlaws after what fuel just pulled
but with all the rumors + jq comp i am considering outlaws down
lost thicket
i'd go with outlaws after what fuel just pulled
atp ranked dallas higher and I'm like "Bro what"
lost thicket
but with all the rumors + jq comp i am considering outlaws down
Imma wait till the end of qualifiers
lost thicket
he rated philly #1 in apac
spark better
keen abyss
i still think philly is #4 in apac
lost thicket
i still think philly is #4 in apac
bro how
keen abyss
shanghais 3-0s against toronto and dallas were decisive
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toronto just threw
keen abyss
the game against shock was tragic
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dallas yeah
keen abyss
and atlanta was on a hot streak while shanghai were boomed
keen abyss
shanghai had what they did in 2021 playoffs happen to them
lost thicket
shanghai had what they did in 2021 playoffs happen to them
true
lost thicket
shanghais 3-0s against toronto and dallas were decisive
toronto should have gone 2-0 against shanghai but they couldn't clutch
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and atlanta sweeps them up
atlanta so good
keen abyss
seoul were tragic in this tourney but i still refuse to put philly above them
and spark brought glads to 3-2
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I think it's Spark/Philly/Dragons/Dynasty
keen abyss
which is something that has only been done by shock and KC dallas
lost thicket
honestly chengdu might be better then dragons and dynasty
keen abyss
one okay tourney run isn't putting philly above the rest of apac for me
philly still has sucked major ass
in regular season
lost thicket
one okay tourney run isn't putting philly above the rest of apac for me
eh tho you have to admit if just modern performance philly is atleast top 2
?
lost thicket
shanghai was so mid
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cant believe
keen abyss
i believe on any other day philly goes home early and seoul/shanghai make it much further
lost thicket
shanghai and dallas just bruh
keen abyss
i have no faith in philly
i am not even putting them in the same tier break as seoul and shanghai
lost thicket
i have no faith in philly
average philly fan
and average philly hater
I think philly is getting overhated cause a few bad games before
keen abyss
i am not going to bury shanghai and seoul just because they had 2 bad tourney games each
if philly do well this regular stage
i will put them above shanghai seoul
cloud latch
praying philly never get 1st 🙏
cunning patrol
I hope Philly gets 1st this tournament
full lichen
Ngl, I hope Spark get first this tourney
gusty rampart
i am not going to bury shanghai and seoul just because they had 2 bad tourney ga...
Shanghai is dogshit
Seoul is not
gusty rampart
honestly chengdu might be better then dragons and dynasty
No.
gusty rampart
Seoul had an extremely better qualifier
And a really close match against 3rd place finish
Shanghai did not have a close match against 3rd place finish
Seoul just really had communication and compositional issues
Which is easily fixable
ESPECIALLY over a month break
While Shanghai just sorta struggle
Also Shanghai's 2 wins we're against fucking Defiant and the shitty ass Dallas Fuel
willow tartan
cope
twilit oriole
Also Shanghai's 2 wins we're against fucking Defiant and the shitty ass Dallas F...
Almost could’ve lost to defiant too
slate owl
was tired of seeing that shit map
not shit good map
keen abyss
worst map in the pool
in return we got the second best escort map added to the pool
junkertown
hot onyx
zest and belosrea popped off
and MN3rd best hitscan in the league
fathom igloo
Seoul is not
Seoul sucks ass
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And a really close match against 3rd place finish
as jazzy would say
"transitive property sad"
tepid ibex
Seoul is not
Seoul didn’t win a single tournament game 
tepid ibex
Almost could’ve lost to defiant too
Wasn’t it 3-0???
fathom igloo
Lol the people who say Seoul are good spend time on Reddit too much
twilit oriole
Wasn’t it 3-0???
Toronto could’ve won 3-0 too if they had comms the first 2 maps
twilit oriole
Lol the people who say Seoul are good spend time on Reddit too much
Fr
Seoul sucks
Overrated team with washed players
frosty patrol
profit is ass
wrong but
the level at which people simp for him when he’s A tier
is so dumb
#stopsimpingforAtierdpsplayers
willow drum
wrong but
okay i will say this one time only
profit is ass compared to the hype that his simpers give him
frosty patrol
profit is ass compared to the hype that his simpers give him
Correct
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he is not an ass player
as most OWL players are not
especially being that he has found some success in OWL
but he is ass compared to the hype that his supporters blindly give him
trail perch
Disagree, he didnt perform the best in MM
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?
trail perch
But during the KC he was one of if not the best player in the league
keen abyss
and MN3rd best hitscan in the league
mn3rd worst hitscan in apac
hot onyx
false
keen abyss
who else is worse in apac
ezhan and ?
innovation ?
my bad mn3 4th worst apac hs
nvm 5th bc carpe forgot about that husk
hot onyx
lip shy fits leave jimmy diya better
Lip Fits and maybe Shy
is all
MN3 has become much more consistent
and has carried dead weight supports
keen abyss
nah zest and belos did so much more
keen abyss
mn3 was not even a top 5 player in the lobby most of the time he was playing
hot onyx
MN3 has more consistency and reliability
keen abyss
surely
trail perch
Next year shock dps line
Proper, heesang, viper
Literally the best in the league imo
And they can get max and junbin which would prob be a tank upgrade
If they dont win this season, they damn might win next
Junbin not next year mb
year after
But max tho
They can use o2 blast like academy teams should be used
to scout talent and operate as an extended bench
hot onyx
3 fdps 💀
trail perch
Proper hitscan tho
willow drum
Lip Fits and maybe Shy
shy is 100% better
trail perch
I mean he used to be
willow drum
than midn3
willow drum
Proper hitscan tho
still viper and heesang have overlapping hero pools
and you're not going to play viper heesang
hot onyx
yes but it'd be foolish to release Kilo
willow drum
when proper literally plays everything they play
but better
except maybe mei
heesang mei is generational
trail perch
Viper could become more like a full proj
willow drum
Viper could become more like a full proj
wdym full proj
trail perch
and heesang could be like a striker type player
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???
trail perch
and move proper towards more hitscan
willow drum
why would u release kilo
trail perch
why would u release kilo
cash
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? why would u play viper echo
trail perch
other teams would prob drop bank on him
willow drum
heesang already has genji pharah echo
in his hero pool
you can't even play viper next year
trail perch
Its harder to keep up with league level on multiple heros, thats why ppl become less flexible over time
willow drum
until like mid of july next time
trail perch
With specialization, they could stay on top for years to come
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viper wont be available to play for like 2 stages
so you're not going to scrim viper
trail perch
but if you rely on proper being the best on every hero, that wont stay for as long
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when you already have heesang
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probably
trail perch
I miss proper hitscan
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proper didnt even play widow that much
trail perch
Also his major breakthrough was during goats iirc
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as well as tracer
willow drum
Also his major breakthrough was during goats iirc
his zarya was nutty
trail perch
his zarya was nutty
Yeah i remember
trail perch
nah proper not striker
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than striker
trail perch
yeah fs
striker was always more on tracer reaper hanzo
with ashe and widow as pocket picks
then genji when he said fuck it
but his genji was meh tbf
rewatching contendies finals from this year cause i only skimmed it
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kilo very easily top 5 hs in NA unless i forget like 2 players
trail perch
any talon players i shld watch out for
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any talon players i shld watch out for
topdragon
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he is not worse than viper
because viper has literally only shown us
the genji look
trail perch
in the finals*
trail perch
iirc viper just went sicko
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in the finals*
viper genji is >= topdragon genji
trail perch
ok ok ill finish watching and come back in a bit
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from teh finals match
tdrag has also shown us like echo pharah mei before
viper rlly hasnt
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Its harder to keep up with league level on multiple heros, thats why ppl become ...
This is literally just wrong
As a matter of fact
People have gotten more flexible over time
There is like
2
Hard hitscans in the league
Ans and kai
Even then
Kai can play Hanzo
So it’s not even like past hard hitscan
Where you strictly only play cass Ashe widow
And most of the players in the league can play tracer
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And there isn’t such this as a tracer otp anymore
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can you link shy tracer
Shy plays echo
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Idk
trail perch
Yeah he has
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link
trail perch
Last year only tho
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He never would have to play tracer with alphayi
trail perch
He never would have to play tracer with alphayi
genji tracer
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Alphayi duplicates himself
trail perch
tracking wise its insane
but pathing
and like decision making
eh
his aim is fucking incredible tho
like maybe cleanest tracking in the league
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That is shy
trail perch
Yes im aware ms treeko, i am a spark fan
map 1
you see even in the thumbnail the shy tracer
trail perch
Yeah but you can see his individual skill still
A bad player is going to miss shots no matter the opponent
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?
trail perch
a good player is going to have good aim no matter the opponent
trail perch
being against bad teams doesnt make you aim better
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If you’re against a bad team it’s easier to look good
willow drum
being against bad teams doesnt make you aim better
it can lol
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being against bad teams doesnt make you aim better
Technically it does
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good aim is something wonky because
trail perch
movement wise ig
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Cuz bad teams = more space for u
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the more space you have
the easier it is to aim
especially on hard HS
but less on tracer
trail perch
Im so valo brain broken rn im sorry
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even still though
trail perch
i forgot how space works
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Space also is in val too
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if your MT creates space and the team is bad
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It’s just like map control instead of space
trail perch
Yeah ik more space to work means u can breath more and get better positins and aim
trail perch
It’s just like map control instead of space
yeah but it affects the macro not the micro
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yeah but it affects the macro not the micro
It affects the micro as well
trail perch
Debatable
Crosshair placement and reads matter more for individual duels
fundys matter more imo
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Reads?
trail perch
Like r u listening, r u jiggling
trail perch
Reads?
general gamesense, where r they holding, where r u clearing, what util has been used
etc.
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Like r u listening, r u jiggling
That depends on how much space they have
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general gamesense, where r they holding, where r u clearing, what util has been ...
That’s not reads that getting infos
trail perch
Nonono without using util im talking like wideswinging hookah off the rip
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Reads is stacking a site cuz u think they’re gonna rush
trail perch
Reads is stacking a site cuz u think they’re gonna rush
or reading whos on what site with what setup
to know what to clear when pushing
trail perch
Not if you just read it
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Not if you just read it
That’s a bad play
Why take really bad risks when you can just use util to gather info
trail perch
You clear everything when pushing
difference between "ok ill flash out get the alarm bot boathouse and remember kayo stairs"
versus
Knife
see whose there
play contact
etc.
trail perch
Why take really bad risks when you can just use util to gather info
Getting distracted from my point
Aim is more independent of space in valorant
aim is aim
you can set urself up to do better sure
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difference between "ok ill flash out get the alarm bot boathouse and remember ka...
So u gather info then you hit a site
How is that a read
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Not true
trail perch
We dont need to have this argumnet
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Cuz crosshair placement exists
trail perch
lets get back to sucking shy off
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So you don’t need to aim
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lip clears
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flora clears
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Utility is more important in val than aim
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Utility is more important in val than aim
correct
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You can aim as good as you want it doesn’t matter if ur flashed blinded stunned and mollied
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aiming in val is overrated
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And revealed
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just play smart
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And slowed
trail perch
This is why cs better!!
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No it isn’t
trail perch
to each there own
Im j starting to get into valo
cause someone hacked my steam acc
and i lost everything :(
So im still learning
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Who’s fault is that
trail perch
Prob mine but im not sure still
I lost almost a decade worth of stuff which sucks
prob over 5k euros and 4 thousands hours down the drain
so i decided to move on to a new game
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Val is very different from cs
trail perch
But its the easiest game to make the jump
plus i have ow experience
so ow and cs have a child named valorant
devout path
But its the easiest game to make the jump
Depends on what part is harder for u to learn
Gamesense or mechanics
trail perch
Gamesense def the hardest cause i was damn good at cs
I was global and faceit level 6
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I think my ow aim helped a lot in val
trail perch
I have bad habits now tho like crouch spraying and the how diff the weird ass counterstrafing in valorant
Cause im used to full accuracy the second u tap other direction rather then the delay
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Crouch spraying is a problem I have too
vagrant cargo
Val is very different from cs
yeah cause its shit
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yeah cause its shit
Disagree
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i feel bad for nukkye
cuz g2 is gonna buy m3c
itd be crazy if they drop jody and keep nukkye but
language issue
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Imagine
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yeah cause its shit
based
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If they created a g2+m3c super team
i mean
thats just
m3c
and maybe u put nukkye
lol
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M3c + maybe nukkye or mixwell
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with all due respect to mixwell
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What is this acend haven comp
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chronicle clears
hot onyx
5 Zests and two KFC Chicken Twister wrap of the days
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No offense but there’s a reason they play cypher on a lot of maps
hot onyx
to feed my clones
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Chronicle is a solid sentinel and a mid chamber
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No offense but there’s a reason they play cypher on a lot of maps
no offense but
they cannot win
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Mixwell is a very solid chamber
sullen berry
sushiboys what a steal
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This is not
sullen berry
assuming you don't need to deal with language barriers and whatnot
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mixwell is known
to be
inconsistent with the team
imo he is good
sometimes
but i rather have chronicle
10 times
out of 10
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sushiboys what a steal
The entire list is a meme
In fact
It was a Reddit post and Reddit bullied the poster off the platform
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yes
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Cuz it is so bad
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i was one of them
sullen berry
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PRX $9 team vs FPX $17 team
sullen berry
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Was grand finals
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1v4
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yea
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True
Suygetsu the goat
Fpx went from almost losing in groups (no suygetsu)
To winning masters (with suygetsu)
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Shao had one of the highest clutch winrates I think
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I think he had higher clutch%
He was more consistent with clutches
Mindfreak had maps where he’s better in a 1v2 than a 2v1
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i am fairly certain mindfreak had better clutch
but
i dont know
how the % changed after grand finals
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It is good question
The stats r probably somewhere
The stats r
Mindfreak had a 35% clutch winrate
While shao had a 25% clutch winrate
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bruh this boy mindfreak built differently
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Mindfreak won 12 of 34 clutches
Shao won 21 of 83 clutches
Shao had a 218.6 ACS this tournament
77% KAST
35% headshot accuracy
Mindfreak had 193.5 ACS
Also 77% KAST
And also 35% headshot accuracy
worn falcon
ans
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https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-5-03/ LETS GOOO chamber nerfs
worn falcon
zzz
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https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-5-03/ LETS...
W patch
please tell me champions is playing on that
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Giving neon an ult
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please tell me champions is playing on that
Probably
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is so fucking busted
why did they do x3 multiplier
bruh overwatch players boutta run wild fr
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Because they nerfed the damage
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the damage nerf is negligible with that headshot buff
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Any tracer player would roll
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since pros gonna aim at head now anyways
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the damage nerf is negligible with that headshot buff
It’s so hard to consistently track the head
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not for overwatch players 🧠
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Even for overwatch players
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disagree
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Cuz val models have much smaller hitboxes
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besides with this
you literally
only need to hit
3 shots
its ridiculous
3 bullets on the head
even for
normal non overwatch pros
ttk is so low now
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54 damage
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yes 54 per shot
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It’s still not as high ttk as chamber or jett knives
Or vandal
I think phantom would be close
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the movement more than makes up
for it
u can output
20 shots
per second
u can literally kill someone in
0.15 second
while moving very fast
SHEEEESH
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Neon ult sucks
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im not saying her ult is bad
is good*
headass
but they buffed
like
her big weakness
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This made neon ult on par with other eco ults
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i was hoping to see more jett
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I like neon
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More duelist diversity is cool
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Like we get jett neon raze phoenix
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yes
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anything thats not chamber
Or astra
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phoenix ascent plz
be a real thing
actually even if its not
prx is gonna pull it out u already know
💯
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Phoenix has 100% winrate on ascent
The only thing about Phoenix is like
His flashes
Like
I feel like
Kayo
Is Phoenix
But
Better
Better flashes better molly/nade better ult
Better Info gathering
Kayo ult is basically Phoenix ult but it suppresses
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How that character is not nerfed
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fade
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Phoenix wall is p much useless
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probably
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Well
It’s so funny
Cuz
All of the initiators are busted
Fade sova kayo
All 3 r busted
Skye has a flash on cooldowns
That gives info
And has cypher ult without needing a body
And has a sova drone
That stuns
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Initiators r gonna be good until riot makes an anti info character
They will
And they will be busted for months
Wait
That’s fade
To an extent
With deafens
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Info is just
So good
You can never have too many initiators
Ur just gonna have so much util they can’t shoot and you know where everyone on the map is at all times
I’m waiting for quad initiator + neon
Breach kayo fade skye neon
On fracture
How do you counter that
Although that comp will probably suck on defense
You can like
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smoke
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Play retake
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Retake
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smoke
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Like on fracture if you just hard push like 2 places
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they are gonna have initiator util too
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Then you play retake where they don’t have much space
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u cant clear every angle on a retake imo
You can with quad initiator
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i disagree
not to mention
if the other team
had like 2-3 initators as well
more easily fucked on the chokepoints
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The hard counter to that strat is kayo
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Initiator r just so good
Plus neon
Like if you 3 stack b main on fracture every round
And just kayo knife plus stun while neon runs in
And then you get skye flash arcade
And fade checks dish
With eye
Then you have so much control instantly
Like just 3 stack some part of the map with neon kayo breach then get skye and fade to check other parts of the map
And you retake both sites
Where you have tons of control
So they’re super constricted
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And then you wait for initiator util to be back up and you can retake super well
trail perch
because we know fielder has a good brig from 2021
and sparkle genji is a constant
Dallas might be like insane during this upcoming meta
devout path
Just save neon wall for retake
trail perch
it just seems like it fits their playstyle
next mesa
and sparkle genji is a constant
his genji has been a wash
trail perch
lies
candid radish
Saw this on Twitter for OWL 2022 tanks
devout path
HOLY NUKKYE
candid radish
I see Trekko is excited to look at that list
next mesa
piggy is c
how is hotba and punk
the same tier
as someone
lmao
hilariously bad
tiny pollen
hot onyx
Saw this on Twitter for OWL 2022 tanks
Belosrea is not A tier off ball
his rein and winston are b- at best
nah this kid didn't put MuZe at C tier
interaction farmer
candid radish
All I’m saying is that hadi deserves to be A tier, not comfortably A but still
hot onyx
made a better list in 5 minutes
cunning patrol
You’re a moron too
hot onyx
oh shit i put Mag above GA9a
5 minutes makes me smarter than half of OWL youtube chat in their whole lives
cunning patrol
Only half is sad
hot onyx
what placement is disagreeable
hot onyx
Hadi was a joke placement
cunning patrol
Botba too tbh
hot onyx
Daan is C tier to make D tier exclusive to Gator
hot onyx
Void should probably be out of S tier below Hawk but I feel he still has the mechanics
if Belosrea can be seen as a top tank based off nothing but mechanics so can Void
oh shit he isn't on the lsit
fuckin uhhhh
cunning patrol
Belosgoat
hot onyx
somewhere between Mag and Piggy overall
put him between Fearless and Someone based off nothing but ball
korean ameng
cunning patrol
He’s too old to be on that level
vagrant cargo
Saw this on Twitter for OWL 2022 tanks
MuZe in C lmfao
And hadi in S
That's crazy
full lichen
made a better list in 5 minutes
I low-key kinda agree with this list
vagrant cargo
made a better list in 5 minutes
Hawk B
vagrant cargo
hanbin like mechanics
Yeah he always had better mechanics
full lichen
Ngl, Someone and fearless I feel are interchangeable
vagrant cargo
S3 Void still the best player of OW 1 😹
Nah someone is better
He plays a nasty zarya too
full lichen
Space being in A is kind of a ? Because he hasn't played much this year
hot onyx
valid in most cases but not here
full lichen
Hadi above Smurf?
hot onyx
Hawk is showing what he is capable of without deadweightor holding him back
hot onyx
Hadi above Smurf?
Hadi #1 is what should be an obvious meme
full lichen
Hadi #1 is what should be an obvious meme
Fair enough
next mesa
Yeah he always had better mechanics
i disagree
hanbin
is goated with the sauce
as they say
full lichen
Ngl, this tourney mayhem gonna go 5-1 only lose to shock
earnest leaf
Hawk deserves to be above hanbin and void for this stage tbh
full lichen
Hawk deserves to be above hanbin and void for this stage tbh
True
Ngl, Hawk very bottom S, Coluge Muze and Someone top 3 A tier
fathom igloo
Gator should be F+ teir cause he's a cry baby and a NFT owner
full lichen
Damn
vagrant cargo
the league isn't ready...
earnest leaf
damn gator does literally nothing and mfs still hate him
cunning patrol
Yeah
next mesa
damn gator does literally nothing and mfs still hate him
nft
cunning patrol
James Rodriguez and dembele
earnest leaf
nft
He does all it pretty much privately and separately from his main stuff
i think the nft stuff is stupid, but i'm not gonna hate the guy when he does it on his own time
fathom igloo
He does all it pretty much privately and separately from his main stuff
He always complains and is a jerk on Twitter
earnest leaf
When's the last time he complained and was a jerk on twitter
true hound
viscid pecan
twin bloom
Before playoffs last year
That was justified complaining
twin bloom
Agree
full lichen
I'm playing brig and have silver damage and gold healing rn smh
I ended with gold damage and healing
AS BRIG
twin bloom
@vagrant cargo What will you do if titans first win comes against Toronto
full lichen
Skill wise yeah, but how tf do I have the most damage
twin bloom
Skill wise yeah, but how tf do I have the most damage
Because you are playing a broken champ
In silver
On switch
full lichen
Lol
north relic
Twilight brig chorong lucio
full lichen
Twilight brig chorong lucio
Majed Lucio Anamo Brig
willow drum
what if lucio brig is not meta
willow drum
Majed Lucio Anamo Brig
MAJED LUCIO OH NO
twin bloom
It is the meta
twin bloom
MAJED LUCIO OH NO
Majed lucio
willow drum
It is the meta
in contenders
full lichen
MAJED LUCIO OH NO
I'm a Florida fan, how tf do you think I feel know that's probably gonna happen?
twin bloom
I wanted to be a fan of mayhem but they benched goats
Like hydron
And sirmajed
So i root for good franchises
Like titans
Etc
Etc
full lichen
Ngl, Rupal doesn't have the mechanics of Majed but has more gamesense
full lichen
Like hydron
XZI just better ngl
twin bloom
Hydron was having generational performances
Gappin people.lile
Heesu
And sparkr
Sad to see him benched still
full lichen
XZI diffed them harder tho
twin bloom
Maybe
full lichen
Only thing that Hydron is better at, is Tracer
frosty patrol
Only thing that Hydron is better at, is Tracer
and the zo
full lichen
True
willow drum
mr mike
if ashe sojourn is meta next stage
do you see dallas qualifying
and if so
what seed
full lichen
if ashe sojourn is meta next stage
I heard Genji/Sojourn and Ashe/echo are the main ones for next stage from Custa
earnest leaf
imo
frosty patrol
do you see dallas qualifying
yes
willow drum
I heard Genji/Sojourn and Ashe/echo are the main ones for next stage from Custa
that is weird
frosty patrol
because they force genji always