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undone hemlock
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well then i am one of the london fans who began supporting them mostly after building a European roster

cunning patrol
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Are u serious

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Or #joshing

twin bloom
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And won

cunning patrol
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Sad

twin bloom
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Chopper and rokit

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Gapped the gaa

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On genji

cunning patrol
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Chopper

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Is a solid player

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Imo

twin bloom
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Krawi is a better

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Monkey

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Then benjumanbest

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Imo

cunning patrol
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Krawi is also a solid player

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Wisp potentially big 2

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In NA?

twin bloom
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Lol

cunning patrol
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UA

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Will defeat them

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With itsal

warm helm
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Hot take. Justice will show up with more practice with vigilante and make a comeback this stage

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Pure Hopium don’t @ me

earnest leaf
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They will have a game or two where they look good as fuck, top 5 Na level

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then they will revert to their normal selves, drop a series to a team like nyxl and continue on

next mesa
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nyxl

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is not gonna win a game

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for the rest of the year

north relic
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we are winning the next tourney

cedar oasis
worn falcon
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Unlike the fusion fans

plush grail
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You use this currency right? @cedar oasis

willow tartan
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clean ur floor u fucking barbarian

willow drum
cedar oasis
balmy wolf
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but nyxl is so shit

twin bloom
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Lol

twin bloom
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Also chex

north relic
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ball ranked monkeys

twin bloom
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Was rank 1

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Lol

north relic
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can make rank 1

cunning patrol
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imo

north relic
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flora is also an ow1 goat

twin bloom
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Imo

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Only goats get rank 1

cunning patrol
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like samito

twin bloom
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Agree

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Samito used to be good

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In 2018

cunning patrol
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idk

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he had this one unranked to gm stream

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that might have been the funniest thing ive seen in history

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i wish he uploaded da full thing

twin bloom
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Samito iced rak super only good OW streamers

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Imo

cunning patrol
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apply

twin bloom
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Space no longer streams due to various different reasons

cunning patrol
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is a goat

twin bloom
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Sadly

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Apply and cloudy as well decent

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Imo

next mesa
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to get gm

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that one time

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it was

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hilarious

balmy wolf
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it's the graveyard season but I'm dropping hard QQ

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I've heard from other dps players that they're dropping in sr

twin bloom
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Imo

cunning patrol
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i have watched one syrus montage

twin bloom
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Ok

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Will watch

cunning patrol
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the bar is misleading

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cuz i did watch the whole thing

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actually no i remember now

balmy wolf
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I wonder if anyone is gonna pick up Nyang

cunning patrol
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i was finding his song

balmy wolf
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dude won aussie contenders now

cunning patrol
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that he used

balmy wolf
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well I mean his team did

cunning patrol
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nyang obliterated

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ans in his prime

cunning patrol
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ok i am watchin

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why is kevsta

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on wid

willow drum
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get humiliated

twin bloom
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Kephrii is funny

balmy wolf
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Nyang is a nut

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Nyang in owl please

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cookie in owl please

twin bloom
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Sometimes

earnest leaf
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plays in oce contenders

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smh

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Kevin

cunning patrol
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disagree

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he is a tracer one play

twin bloom
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Widow is his fav

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Champ

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Depending on the day

cunning patrol
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everyone

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who doesnt play much widow

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enjoys her the most

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imo

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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i thought he stopped

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lol

twin bloom
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And it was one of his most played

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In contenders

cunning patrol
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he plays less now

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imo

balmy wolf
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I would like to see kev on the widow

twin bloom
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He has a widow one play

cunning patrol
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i checked the other day

balmy wolf
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bench ans fuck it

twin bloom
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On his team

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Sad

willow drum
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dps mains can be summarized very easily imo

cunning patrol
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they cannot

willow drum
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either widow 1 plays with some hard HS

balmy wolf
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who tf is syrus

twin bloom
willow drum
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tracer 1 play

twin bloom
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Of NAC

cunning patrol
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top 2 HS in naC

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imo

twin bloom
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He is top 1 unless you count

willow drum
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they are either hard hs one plays, tracer 1 tricks, echo and hanzgoat players and then dps gods (that is summary of all DPS)

cunning patrol
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despite what certain propagandists

twin bloom
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Tr33

cunning patrol
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say

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does tr33 even play hard hs

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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what's NAC

twin bloom
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He is playing it

cunning patrol
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in officials

twin bloom
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Rn

cunning patrol
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ok

balmy wolf
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North american?

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lol

willow drum
balmy wolf
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ah ok

cunning patrol
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i have seen him play it

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in his montages

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tr33 has good montages

twin bloom
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Tr33 is benching iced

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And benched syrus

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On hard HS

balmy wolf
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whaty region has the best contender players

twin bloom
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KR

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Not a debate

balmy wolf
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ah yeah ofc

twin bloom
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Sadly

balmy wolf
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and between eu and na?

twin bloom
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But NA>>eu

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Imo

willow drum
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KR shits on every contenders

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region

cunning patrol
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syrus is no goat then

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imo

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also tr33 is a very big player

twin bloom
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On dorado

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Running widow

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Souj

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So he is big 2

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Imo

cunning patrol
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rocket

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vision

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tr33

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are big 3

twin bloom
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Rokit

cunning patrol
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despite what certain propagandists would say

twin bloom
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Is more flex

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Than HS

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Imo

cunning patrol
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i was talking about

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DPS

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players

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imo

twin bloom
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Ok

next mesa
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@cunning patrol @addi the guard playing well

balmy wolf
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right now?

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oh they're against c9

cunning patrol
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Cannot watch

next mesa
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I can't tag her for some reason

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Whatevs

cunning patrol
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I saw them win fracture

next mesa
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Yeah

cunning patrol
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@devout path

next mesa
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They did a 7-5 attack

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On

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Ascent

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And Trent also never loses on ascent so like

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It's in the bag

fathom igloo
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Imagine watching val I think

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Or is this apex

forest token
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val

tropic herald
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@balmy wolf THE GUARD ARE BACK

forest token
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took 'em long enough

gusty rampart
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My boy Michael Bernet at it again

cunning patrol
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The guard are mid

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Faze will beat them in the upper finals

keen abyss
cunning patrol
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What did I do

keen abyss
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apply

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not you

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he looks like he's in a constant state of being on the edge of malding

cunning patrol
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He is still a solid streamer

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Compared to

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Flats

keen abyss
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flats is not good

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so that's not a strong comparison

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though i have only seen clips of apply so i cannot speak in full

plush grail
cunning patrol
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He’s cringe sometimes

keen abyss
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often a content creator's fanbase can hurt my image of them a lot

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and that is very apparent with flats

forest token
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I haven't seen a lot of what flats does tbh

willow tartan
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nothing special

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avg content creato

north relic
devout path
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optic comps r always meta

north relic
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Meta slaves sad

keen abyss
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they're just all cringe and whiny

north relic
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they should sign three of the same role

keen abyss
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i feel like half of the mfs who force rein in my games with shitty team comps

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are flats fans

keen abyss
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i'm dogshit

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i can't

north relic
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Pocket your rein as mercy

keen abyss
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i'm dps

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i'm not dogshit on support just dps

north relic
keen abyss
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i have sworn off the rat

north relic
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I’ve seen gm junks that have the skill of diamond players

north relic
keen abyss
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i said the rat

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not chadmond

forest token
north relic
keen abyss
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when they charge the enemy ana that gives me an opportunity to also dive the backline

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OW is so much more fun with dive tanks

north relic
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Are cloudy fans Europeans

forest token
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lmfao

north relic
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Idc what you say having a brawl fight last 2 minutes is peak overwatch

keen abyss
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cloudy fans are just ground winstons

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but a dive tank is a dive tank

deft wolf
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Hope k1ng carries the titans

devout path
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its ok its fracture

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why am i coping for sentinels

tepid ibex
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bdog carrying shopify lmao

devout path
cunning patrol
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He dropped like 40 yesterday and lost

tepid ibex
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fucking hell mada

devout path
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sentinels run a fake challenge (impossible)

cunning patrol
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they won anyway so it doesnt matter

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#zellsissy

devout path
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never say that again

cunning patrol
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#zellsus

devout path
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thats better

lost thicket
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every nyxl fdps was kinda fucking sick

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why did I write shit instead of sick

vagrant cargo
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Feath5r wasnt

lost thicket
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I mean just all their fdps atleast had one good season/stage where they were just peak

north relic
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feath5r wasnt an nyxl player

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there was only flora gwangboong

lost thicket
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based

shell onyx
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saya always wins those

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Except when he was on the florida mayhem

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then he won the least amount out of any owl team

gusty rampart
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Sayaplayer would get 5 headshots a fight and he'd still lose

cunning patrol
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Feath5r was a solid echo

next mesa
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good one

cunning patrol
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Thanks

next mesa
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shroudy rowdy

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performedpretty good today huh

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i feel bad for c9 also

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god damn

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they are horrible

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actually

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curry* is horrible

cunning patrol
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#xetaismeta

next mesa
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top 5 na controller

cunning patrol
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Who is

willow drum
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shorud!!!

next mesa
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woops not controller

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flex

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xeta

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initiator*

cunning patrol
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He was top 3 imo

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Crashies trent xeta derrek bcj

lost thicket
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I want shock to get reiner and bliss and drop/trade kilo/s9mm next season

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this is what got me thinking

cloud latch
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I want shock to drop proper finn and sign some more na talent

earnest leaf
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why drop kilo

cloud latch
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since mikeyy coluge and s9mm are goats

earnest leaf
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honestly no reason to really drop any shock player, none of their issues have really been individual players

lost thicket
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just

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finn viol2t but dps pretty much

cloud latch
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fiolet hyper flex dps to replace proler

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proper

earnest leaf
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having 3 dps is almost always better than 2

lost thicket
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focus on two really stupid good ones and get them to just fuck hard

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you could keep s9mm or kilo but shock now seem less S2/S3 with large teams and more small but goated

lost thicket
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but reiner would be better then mikeyy and I think shock want a smaller team to be more flexible

earnest leaf
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also gl getting reiner to leave glads

cloud latch
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give hik thebag

lost thicket
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and shock is the most winningest team in owl, which is why they get a lot of good players

earnest leaf
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Yea and glads have won two tourneys this year with reiner at the helm

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I would assume majority of players prefer a chance of winning over pure cash

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Hence why shock has gotten players cheaper than other teams

lost thicket
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glads are the most winningest team rn but if reiner would leave it's for shock I think

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shock or glads = lots of wins and money

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pretty much

earnest leaf
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but so far glads is winning more

lost thicket
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also coluge is a friend of his right?

lost thicket
earnest leaf
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like if this was going into s2 or s3 shock where the take tourneys consistently, I can see someone giving up a bigger contract to join them, but shock hasn't won anything in two years, and probably won't this year

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although iirc shock's system and team environment is highly regarded

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which I think is part of why proper joined over other teams who would pay more

lost thicket
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but this is all IF reiner wants to take his chances

next mesa
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compared to glads

lost thicket
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glads and philly have money

next mesa
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shock doesnt pay a lot

lost thicket
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shitloads

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shock has like, good money, not as much

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but def not low

earnest leaf
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shock could pay, but don't

lost thicket
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from what I know

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if they want to they can throw the bag but normally don't need to

earnest leaf
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Also glads is owned by a billionaire

lost thicket
earnest leaf
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so they probably have a bit more to throw around

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Stan Kroenke

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net worth of almost 11B usd

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owns multiple sports teams as well

lost thicket
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10.7B god damn

twin bloom
earnest leaf
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as a comparison, Andy miller the co-owner of NRG has a net worth of somewhere around $400 million

lost thicket
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"Los Angeles Gladiators (Overwatch League)
The Gladiators are a founding member of the Overwatch League but have never won a league title. The team finished with its best-ever record taking second in the West in 2021, but its best playoff finish remains the quarterfinals in 2018.

Title Hopes: honestly I have no clue"

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this was a ranking on stan kroenkes sports team

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glads at the bottom with guerrillas higher

next mesa
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those networth

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dont even say much

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cuz its not like kroenke is spending even liek 1% of his money

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on his owl team

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lol but

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in the owl scene they have shown

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to be willing t o

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open the wallet

earnest leaf
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more so just shows the potential spending a team could do

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But all depends on how big of a budget the team is given

next mesa
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yea

twilit oriole
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Net worth doesn’t represent how much money the person has lol

hot onyx
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when Hyunjae and Sanguinar were on the market

frosty patrol
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ansoonjae

keen abyss
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really unfortunate that Toronto downgraded their main support this year

hot onyx
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at this point with how much he is improving in contenders i would take ASJ on a two-way contract

willow drum
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heesang out prob for the hard hs

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incase they switch out to ashe

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topdragon so good

hot onyx
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one part of me want's Talon to win due to my hatred for everything associated with the Shock

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but it would also be funny to say that Babel is the best flex support in korean contenders

willow drum
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weird.

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you should support bliss

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he is a goat

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and babel is getting carried imho

hot onyx
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I believe he is pulling his weight

willow drum
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bro max is actually so good at JQ

willow drum
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sojourn not heesangs hero

hot onyx
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more ult charge than Bliss atm

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ms gap

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big from Babel!

willow drum
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if u say ansj > bliss

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i am going to severely question

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your brain

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ANSJ HOLDS BEAT??

hot onyx
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no i meant Babel gapping Bliss

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and Sley

willow drum
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ok

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slightly more reasonable

hot onyx
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I take back what i said about ASJ on Fusion

willow drum
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C9

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NOOOOO

hot onyx
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oh dear

willow drum
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nooo c9

hot onyx
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that is worse beat usage than FiXa engaging with beat vs Seoul on final fight Lijiang Garden before Fits used nano visor

willow drum
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why hasnt o2 tried

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running heesang probe

hot onyx
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Viper > Heesang according to Boss

willow drum
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i dont think so

hot onyx
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does O2 Boss give a shit what a gold player thinks?

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O2 Boss only cares about what O2 Boss thinks

willow drum
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tbh this meta is really good for viper

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r66 is interesting

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probe has the dog in him

hot onyx
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Babel has punished more dives this match than FiXa has this season

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hyped for him on Fusion for 2023

willow drum
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lmao

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isnt he the fs tho

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TALON LMAO

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bro babel and bliss diffing talon backline @hot onyx

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babel very impressive

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HS player to Brigitte very nice

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but holy shit bliss sso impressive

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GG EZ

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O2 BLAST

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THEIR 3RD TIME CHAMPION

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THEY WON WHERE SHOCK COULD NOT

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THE 3 TIMER

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LETS FUCKING GO

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BEST CONTENDERS TEAM OF ALL TIME

hot onyx
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Runaway?

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EM?

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Fusion University?

willow drum
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lmao come back when any of those teams

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get 3 champions in a row

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zzzz

hot onyx
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bruh some dickhead in chat said Clestyn is b tier

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"Fusion have Belosrea and Fury they don't need a tank upgrade" 💀

hot onyx
willow drum
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how lol

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didnt runaway only get 3 contenders champion titles

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2018 s2 and s3

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2019 s2

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and doesnt EM only have 3 as well

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and o2 never took a break/disbanded

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also they got way more 2nd places

cunning patrol
willow drum
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with max's preformance on teh JQ

cunning patrol
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I have not

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And will not watch

willow drum
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it is a shame

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easily the best JQ in KR

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tendies

hot onyx
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GiG would make Max his bitch if he was in KR

willow drum
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Good bait

hot onyx
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who said it is bait?

willow drum
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it is bait

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lol

hot onyx
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ok zoomer

willow drum
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sans arent u 21

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you're just as much of a zoomer lol

hot onyx
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where tf do you pull 21 out of your ass from?

north relic
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? Gig rolls that fraud

north relic
willow drum
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wait sans ur older than 21

north relic
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Sans is like 18

willow drum
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so then he is a zoomer

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as well

north relic
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No he isn’t

willow drum
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zoomer literally means

hot onyx
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aw fuck i am a zoomer

willow drum
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born in gen z

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sans is 100% born in gen z

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because he was born before 2012

hot onyx
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1997-2012 is zooming

willow drum
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and after 1997

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yeah so he is a zoomer as well

hot onyx
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2010 ™️

willow drum
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the oldest zoomer is like 26 years old

hot onyx
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hey Hellfire

willow drum
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yws

hot onyx
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join OWL Viewing Party and I can give you a fun fact about 2010

willow drum
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ok

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ok

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what is it

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im tired

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👍

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i love donkey kong

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um

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the mario one

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y

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es

north relic
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donkey kong is my favorite mario brother

willow drum
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???? wtf

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thank you for the fun facts

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Ummm maybe later

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i still have HW to do

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we'll see actually

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ya ya i will

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i'll join back when finished

hot onyx
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oki

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@north relic would you like to hear the same fact?

hot onyx
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ok one moment

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fact time

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had to help nan

north relic
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name them

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agane

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xenoblade

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im not a xenoblade fan

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its a horror game

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on wii

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nightmare fuel

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imo

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ok

cunning patrol
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@devout path

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G2 are awful

next mesa
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getting fucked

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by that london team

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in map 1

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didnt watch the rest

cunning patrol
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I wish I wasn’t but I want to watch the goats destroy acend

next mesa
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jody is gonna play right

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i have no clue how good he is but

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he is very hyped so

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m3c should be good

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they're also all FA

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i really really hope they get picked up as a group

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if nats and chronicle separate im gonna cry fr

cunning patrol
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They won’t

devout path
cunning patrol
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I don’t care

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Jady gotta lock in fr.

next mesa
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started?

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shit he just got kiledl ol

cunning patrol
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Yeah he is not playing very well

next mesa
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skye on this map

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is a little peculiar

cunning patrol
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Ok

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I’m so fucking mad

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Like howwww do u lose that

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Lll

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Like they don’t even try to Molly it??

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M3c are awful

next mesa
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woop

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6-6 now

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i didnt watch

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this is so messy

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looks like NA lol

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bruh m3c

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they r throwing

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they won 9 round sina row 💀

cunning patrol
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💀💀

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M3c suckkk

next mesa
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on god

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bruh

cunning patrol
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How is that even a collat

next mesa
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is there a loser b racket

cunning patrol
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Yes

tropic herald
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M3C lost that map ?

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I closed after it was like 6-1

cunning patrol
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It was a very upsetting

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Loss

next mesa
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12 rounds

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i mean 10 rounds

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in a row

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🗿

tropic herald
next mesa
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chronicle

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on jett

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@cunning patrol sheeesh

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just joined how he doin

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cned

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top 3 oper

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top 2 and he aint 2

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wtf is jady

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saying

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doing

full lichen
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GMTY4W I am trying to get into my highschool team as a FS with a brig and a half assed Lucio, is there anything about my gameplay that you guys can critique to make me better?

cunning patrol
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Alright now they look unreal

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Lll

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What is this

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That was a horrible retake

next mesa
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my man jady

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ok solid

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cned is different man

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he's smart too unlike tenz

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as i say that he dies ahaha

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gg

cunning patrol
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Let’s go

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M3C are the goats

devout path
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never doubt acend

next mesa
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is champions playing on chamber nerf patch

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i dont like watching chamber man

forest token
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idk if lcq is

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masters probably will

devout path
next mesa
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Sussy baka

tropic herald
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3k nade

next mesa
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#fazeup

fathom igloo
next mesa
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W swingchip

frosty patrol
cunning patrol
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damn

willow drum
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mr mike did u return

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from your vacation

tropic herald
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This series has been fun

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Also

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EDG tonight

willow tartan
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bronze can cut it

tiny pollen
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my colliegete teams off tank was level 44 before i replaced them 😭

cunning patrol
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He was finessin

willow tartan
tiny pollen
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nah just bettedr

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incoming freshman

next mesa
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im gonna be my college's overwatch coach

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u guys will see us at the top of NA contenders soon

willow tartan
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not impressive

keen abyss
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levy is gonna move his college to Korea and 4-0 o2 blast

hot onyx
willow tartan
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yeah i cant wait to see mike's ED team in a contenders playoffs

next mesa
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tbh

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i can counter heesang

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easily

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with a brain of my caliber

cunning patrol
#

Agreed

willow tartan
#

I am actually secretly an OWL player

keen abyss
keen abyss
#

it’s obvious you’re whoru

#

the second best genji in the multiverse

next mesa
#

co headcoach

#

expose the frauds in the scene

keen abyss
#

jazzy could coach a team of esports discussion members to the top of na contenders

north relic
#

Idk some of us (mike) loses 1v1s to baby dvas as doom

next mesa
#

that is accounted

#

in my calculations

keen abyss
#

he can’t lose to a baby dva if he’s already traded

north relic
tiny pollen
keen abyss
tiny pollen
#

even tho i scrim like 2000 sr above them

next mesa
#

they will tremble in fear

tiny pollen
#

erectile dysfunction?

#

i dont participate in that

cloud latch
#

🧢

next mesa
cloud latch
#

what's your overwatch college coach rated

earnest leaf
#

I trust none of you to coach an OW team

tiny pollen
#

i have taken a map off uganda airforce in contenders

#

that is my claim to fame

north relic
next mesa
#

flameknight my team of plats

#

could stomp

#

ur team of GM

cloud latch
#

who's your team of plats

north relic
#

true

next mesa
#

take 5 random

#

plats

earnest leaf
#

ur team of plats would collapse the moment they step into a map against me

next mesa
#

simply wrong

#

they would be well disciplined

#

cold & calculating

cunning patrol
cunning patrol
earnest leaf
#

they also crumble the moment they can't play the game like csgo

cunning patrol
#

Doesn’t matter

next mesa
#

jazzy and i will simply

#

outmaneuver your squad

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and the plat widow will

#

crumble

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the spirits

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of the so called "GMs"

earnest leaf
#

widow may be my worst hero

#

but I could probably gap the fuck out of them in the mirror

cunning patrol
#

U would not do that

#

LSD

#

U used to be so stupid

#

WTF

north relic
#

i simply changed my ans views

#

very quickly

#

you used to be so smart

cunning patrol
#

I miss

#

When that was a respectable take

#

Among people in “monkecord”

#

In OW1 that statement is factual

#

@devout path EG are not the goats

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I wished they were

#

Sad

#

@north relic

#

What were ur thoughts

north relic
cunning patrol
#

On the goats

#

From Seoul

#

PreSZN

north relic
next mesa
#

what

cunning patrol
#

Creative

#

Is an ana goat

#

In the clutch

north relic
#

i had them second apac after chengdu implosion

cunning patrol
#

Solid take

#

I wish Shanghai

next mesa
#

most of the time

cunning patrol
#

Were still goats

north relic
#

tbh though

#

i underrated vindaim

cunning patrol
next mesa
#

i did not

cunning patrol
#

He is that good

next mesa
#

because i am

cunning patrol
#

Lmao

next mesa
#

top tier

cunning patrol
#

Vindaim was just unproven

#

On Lucio

next mesa
cunning patrol
#

Everybody knew

next mesa
#

the same tier

cunning patrol
#

His brig

#

Was unreal

next mesa
#

but EG's success

#

rl depends on boostio

cunning patrol
#

Idk

#

It feels like he’s their worst player outside of reformed lol

next mesa
#

he isn't that consisten

#

that's what im sayin

cunning patrol
#

Jawgemo is their best

next mesa
#

if boostio

#

is not performing

#

they lose

cunning patrol
#

Apoth second imho

#

Yeh

next mesa
#

kind of like

#

tenzy boy

#

before

cunning patrol
#

Probably just due to him

next mesa
#

god zellsis

cunning patrol
#

Playing chamba

next mesa
#

zellsussy*

cunning patrol
#

Agree

#

Apothjust performed like a goat

next mesa
#

but i expertly

#

deducted

#

that as a prodig

#

y

#

he would easily

#

pick up

#

lucio

cunning patrol
#

👍

#

I did not

#

But I knew he was talented

next mesa
cunning patrol
#

Given his short time

next mesa
#

i think

#

if jjonak

#

was still on seoul

#

sad

cunning patrol
#

Yeah

next mesa
#

after jjonak

#

retirement

cunning patrol
#

Jjonak would be a goat

next mesa
#

i did not think

cunning patrol
#

On this team

next mesa
#

that seoul would win

#

grand finals

next mesa
#

real ones know that

#

jjonak was still goated

#

despite common

#

misconceptions

#

how did jawgemo

#

get that kill

#

lmao

cunning patrol
#

Idk

#

Jjonak was solid

#

On a bad nyxl

#

Low A tier

next mesa
#

he had

#

very bad

#

moments

#

on moira

#

and sometimes bap

#

but generally

#

very good player

cunning patrol
#

Damn som is like that

next mesa
#

gf buff

#

lmao that was funny

earnest leaf
#

I have never seen an owl FS be overall bad at moira the past two seasons

#

Everyone looks the same except fielder who is goated on her

willow drum
#

👍

hot onyx
earnest leaf
#

his moira was perfectly fine

north relic
earnest leaf
#

Unless some moira main hyper analyzed his gameplay and determined his orb usage was shit or something

north relic
#

there isnt a moira expert

#

like myself

earnest leaf
#

The big man himself Tesla is the moira expert

hot onyx
#

Afraid that his moira got carried

#

By the alleged best team of 2019-2020

#

Swap him for Hagopeun during the 2019 Grand Finals and there is no difference in result

north relic
#

viol2t played 2019 finals?

#

i bet it was just two architects

willow tartan
#

you guys are falling for such obvious bait

#

it hurts my soul

cunning patrol
#

Flameknightt never baits

earnest leaf
#

Didn't know it was a hot take to say viol2t's moira was fine

#

If people disagree I would love a vod review done and pointing out the issues with his moira and how it makes him bad at her

north relic
#

his moira mechanics are just not it

earnest leaf
#

what about his mechanics

#

his positioning with fade

#

his orb placement

#

?

north relic
#

his fade jump tech

earnest leaf
#

guess he'll have to get back to the lab on it

#

Be like doom mains and religiously practice the same 5 spots on maps

keen abyss
#

viol2t probably couldn’t double fade jump

#

2020 mvp candidate my ass

cunning patrol
#

The good ones have like 50 setups per map ready to come out of their asshole

earnest leaf
#

yea they sit in custom games to practice that shit

north relic
#

guys i perfected this spot

#

but its fun so im going to keep doing it for 3 hours

cunning patrol
#

Imo

twin bloom
#

Maybe Flora>kilo was

#

But flora>kai was not smart

#

In any metric

willow drum
#

kilo is very talented imo

#

flora is not better

twin bloom
#

Agree

#

But pre season

#

That may have been a reasonable

#

Pred

willow drum
#

pre season custa got everyone to hate on him

twin bloom
#

Flora>kai was never reasonable

willow drum
#

agreed

#

on sombra it is true but

#

off sombra no

twin bloom
#

Maybe tracer

#

But they are not their teams

#

Tracer player

#

So irrelevant imo

north relic
#

someone get me flora vs yaki tracer hours

twin bloom
#

Imo placing landon london anything above bottom 3 NA pre season

#

Was also unreasonable

#

And anyone who predicted that

#

Got lucky

north relic
#

the only arguable one was boston imo

twin bloom
#

Boston titans mayhem ny

#

And paris

tropic herald
#

london coaching staff kinda goated in the wait we suck at meta lets force a comp we are good at while we learn to play meta

twin bloom
#

All had an argument

#

That they were worse

hot onyx
#

There is no alternate universe where the Boston Uprising placed lower than the London Spitfire this season

twin bloom
#

Imo

hot onyx
#

A universe where Valentine is not on the roster

#

I could see them winning against London in a map 6

#

In certain niche metas

#

But preseason when Seeker’s roster slot was robbed by the washed up corpse of Striker, there was no rational argument for Boston as the better team

full lichen
#

And, I have a new gaming computer

#

My dream of being in Contenders then going to OWL are about to be put in

tropic herald
frosty patrol
#

the goat ot is gone

#

i am sad

keen abyss
#

feels like London and NY switched places

next mesa
#

his friends

#

on his way to nohill's house rn

full lichen
#

Probably not

#

Ngl Lige could go to any te with Chinese players

#

Ngl Fire Daizi and hire Lige

cloud latch
#

would be sick

next mesa
#

whats thjes point ,will never see gaga lige again :(

trim shadow
candid radish
keen abyss
#

atp's power ranking video is going to give me brain damage

#

no fucking way he puts philly #1 in the east

#

spark did better against glads than philly did against atlanta

#

and glads pounded atlanta

#

but philly outplayed spark in one set so i guess they're the best team in the east !!

#

no fucking way this one tournament run puts philly #1 in apac

#

when most of their matches were extremely close

#

also putting vancouver decisively bottom team in NA

#

when their schedule was literally the top 5 teams in NA and justice

#

but for florida he went easy on them because they had a tough strength of schedule

#

which was still tough yeah but vancouver had a tougher schedule

#

as a worse team

#

and played very well

#

i mean yeah they probably should have won that match against justice but it was close

keen abyss
#

paris had a much easier schedule than titans and played worse

#

but they got one win so

#

god it is annoying see people say vancouver is shit right now when they just came off of glads shock dallas atlanta houston

#

there are like no teams in NA outside of the mentioned teams that win a set against that lineup

#

london and toronto have a shot

#

maybe florida

earnest leaf
#

I mean what do you want him to rank the team based off of

#

stage before that they couldn't win a game either

#

They choked away a win vs justice recently too

#

Especially going into a stage with one tank player who is an OT player

#

No more doom either because he's shit

#

so no mirror tank

keen abyss
#

I don’t think atp considered future stages because he mentioned shock’s double FS stuff without even a thought towards double MS which is likely for next stage

keen abyss
#

MM Vancouver is at least a tier above KC Vancouver

earnest leaf
#

tbf viol2t's lucio has proven to be solid, and I'd be appalled if finn can't play brig

keen abyss
#

I don’t think shock backline will be able to keep up with the rest of the team

#

I trust coluge proper and kilo on jq genji soj

earnest leaf
#

Granted this is still under the assumption double MS is a guaranteed meta that every team mirrors

keen abyss
#

the only buff shock gets going into next stage imo is doom nerf

#

but glads are very flexible and don’t rely on doom and

#

idk it’s definitely a bigger nerf to atl and houston

earnest leaf
#

yea

#

I'm worried for houston mainly tbh

keen abyss
#

honestly next stage could be big for Dallas

earnest leaf
#

atlanta I think will struggle a lot early on but they'll probably pick it up

keen abyss
#

nvm guriyo sojourn

#

lool

earnest leaf
#

dallas is probably going to force winston again

keen abyss
#

if fearless or hanbin have a good jq i can see dallas being a very high level jq goats team

#

sp9rk1e on his comfort pick chiyo lucio and for some reason i feel like fielder would be a good brig

tawdry hamlet
#

Lige, a tragedy

#

What could've been

willow tartan
#

Not in this universe...

twin bloom
#

Hopefully k1ng is not cosmetic

devout path
#

im gonna make a power ranking for next stage i think

#

made in two seconds

#

better image

plush grail
devout path
#

cuz i have lost hope in boston doing anything

trail perch
#

esp shanghai

willow tartan
#

cuz spark are not good lol

#

u think they can be consstnet enough to be top team in apac?

trail perch
#

Yes

#

I think seoul might still be better

#

But Shanghai i would have bellow philly rn

#

Not second in apac

#

thats fucking ridiculous

willow tartan
#

????

#

philly omegalul

uneven shuttle
#

do points reset for summer qualifiers or am i dumb lmao

fathom igloo
cunning patrol
#

Noooooo

#

The goat OT

#

Has left

sleek sluice
#

orisa op (nah jk heh...)