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I haven't seen him play
I trust what I donāt know more than what I know to be dogshit
Dropping tbose 3 means danteh HAS to play dps full time, meaning outlaws have to find an american tank
From what I can tell
Ok
And then an american support
I trust you Unter
Thanks š
Donāt, he claimed Boston would be better than London
Everyone did
Tbf in preseason Boston looked better
No they didnāt
Sans idk why u keep flexing that pred
When you were wrong about the placement of both teams
U had both bottom 2 and neither are
I rated Boston perfectly at little 4
Because London had the better hitscan off tank main tank and tracer specialist
Ngl I thought Punk Itsal marvel was gonna beuch better than Hadi poko and the supports looked better
Nobody cares
Especially when you were still wrong about both
I had London above 20th
DPS looked like Boston would boom London, then London came out looking better than expected
Always a believer
Me too
london discovered they could one trick rush and beat all the mid table or worse teams
true
They are just EU Atlanta
it was based off pure hopium
Of s4
Forcing rush and beating teams who have more talent
Lol eu stealing NAs flow again @vagrant cargo
Nothing new tbh
Actually reign forced double shield/dva orisa poke more than rush
They found the most success
Wym
Forcin the rush comp
EU invented rush???
Milkyman said that EU contenders was the best region in the world after S2 Stage 1
U silly bafooo
Heās a nobody
so true
@vagrant cargo thoughts on the Reiner role star movement?
is a crime
Lol
I think he is a deserving candidate
He won 2 titles and his flexibility plays a large role in that
its hanbin smurf reiner and someone else
Reiner Smurf Hawk Hanbin
Someone tbhšÆ
i agree
@vagrant cargo who do u think are dps role stars
Fusion should field Carpe zarya
Lip kev proper I think are locked but idk who else
Kevster lip kai proper
yaki
ZEST
Kai I think too
EU EU EU
Ye I was thinking zest
Kai>zest
Players made by NAā¦
shut up midget
its zest kai or shy if he keeps doing well
ZEST carried Aimgod FiXa and pre redemption Belosrea to a finals
Belosrea has been good all season long
Thatās role star material
Belosrword is the goat
Stop this narrative right NOW
better than fate no kizzy
Sans when someone says Belosrea is actually good: 
By no metric
its gaga imo
it is a joke
actually
Yeah I mean he has only gotten value out of 3 primals and been rein gapped every time he played that hero but sure
Good all season long
Iāll ignore his gibraltar feeding shenanigans for this narrative
max > clestyn on JQ
š
i think
@hot onyx crazy how in all the vods u linked me of mn3 ādoing goodā were just games of belosrea carrying him
real
Crazy how when a team hard focuses the hitscan it will look like the tanks are getting more impact
Nobody is hard focusing the widow player with 3 kills man
that is not what happened
But Iām on the Ballosrea hype
mn0 was not getting focused
Once MN3 gets a support line that is above bottom 5
just realized ansoonjae is about to finish top 3 minimum in korea contenders
And doesnāt perform consistently well
WHAT A SAD DAY
OWL level MS
OH NO
I will accept the bullying
ansoonjae above xerneas...
He is improving and ik exactly why
AnSoonJae Dada and Bliss top 3 ig
Babel top 3 fs
Because he has hope for his future outside of a bottom 3 org?
No
contenders has a lack of support talent
Because he is getting all the scrim time
besides bliss
imo bliss is looking solid so far
heesang still elite despite the haters
I have not watched 1 second of contenders
good choice
????
heesang has looked streaky on SJ
still diffed the fuck out of aprita
(dps diff tbh)
Then you missed A1ien get 19 final blows on NQS and full cap against Panthera
Hated by r/OverwatchLeague, loved by journalists
Stay drippy with all these leaks: https://t.co/rYVFDUZtyC
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Bastard robbed Clestyn of POTM after his JQ came out with a redemption arc
Not with Marve1 in the same region
I agree Max is probably the best JQ in Contenders at the moment
Happily
Babel
But that doesnāt make him a better ot than Clestyn
nooo who will be the Victoria apologist after he underperforms for the 15th map?
You will miss me
Victoria soldier was legendary
He gapped happy on the agent
I wonāt miss being gaslighted into believing Faith is a top 5 ms
But you are a big 5 with intelligence in this channel
He is tho
Who even has an argument for 5th
Xerneas
??
xerneas is a bitch
Skewed is much worse on mercy
but much better on brig
Nisha is cap tho
but i'll admit when i was arguing that FiXa would be better than Faith it was pure copium
Faith is better on Lucio and brig despite common misconception
Xerneas is washed too so faith top 5 is the truth
#real imo
Nisha brig is underrated purely because GA9A is forcing winston during a ball meta
bliss will be top 5 next year
due to Hunters coaching staff not existing
heesang > pelican thoughts @hot onyx
Skewed
yes tracer no echo
No
I am not the one coping by any metric
or he could wash up like WhoRU and Na1st
??
na1st never was good enough to become washed
middling at peak
whoru somehow benched for a little 5 apac fdps
agree
Architect Innovation Becky Jinmu
Thatās it
i have him innovation becky
Jinmu clears
as lityle 3
Architect doesnāt count imo
Omg shut uppppppp @twin bloom
architecht not a player
Jinmu is better than fleta
Not by any metric
Agree k1ng>flata
How
Fleta
fleta overrated
Is a flopa
That take is racism
Imo
His Pharah is legendary
Idc
How bullshit yāall think the Houston rumors are
Aināt no way theyāre tryna trade pelican
it could be a striker situation though
Striker wasnāt a good player this year though
Dude underperformed like crazy
Pelican has been great
huk had it out for striker and boomed his mental
outlaws stuff just sounds like upper management was looking around for stuff just to see with no real intent on going through with it
makes sense but who would they trade pelican with anyway?
No one
I don't think a player for player trade has happened for a while
money for player maybe, but not mid season
as much as yaki is a very good player currently this season things haven't been going too well, also having no real tank options for outlaws would cause huge concerns for their future success
piggy is a negative imo
yaki has played tank before
just have 3 dps players and 0 tanks
ok which tanks is yaki solid at
to what extent in success then, rank him in comparison to what tanks we have in the league now
im curious to see if it could be a good decision
im giving them benefit of doubt cause i want to see some examples
Lmfaoooo
yaki is as
^^^^
good as kevster
yaki is overrated tbh
Yaki very good player on shit teams sadly
he's similar to myunbong
myunbong was a bright spot on boston
but on nyxl has done jack shit
nyxl really is just a retirement house
does boston typically pick up some nasty players and then troll them either with temmates or by booming their mental
u are
so stupid
florida was
a top 4 team
in NA
myunbong was a bright spot
on the worst team
in the league
If yaki wasn't on shit teams past two years, he would be in the conversation for being a top fdps
levy how old are you and where do you live
how is that
a hot take
when he was not on a shit team (s3)
he was considered
like a top3 fdps
Because people underrate yaki by a mile sadly
yaki is a god
answer me
i have the answer
to both of those questions
typed
in this chat
i have like 90k messages
gg have fun finding
lmaoo doxxed by lsd
yea smt like that
just like what i did to u
i doxxed myself
ur very stupid
i dont
i myself think
my voice is perfectly normal
its very quiet though since i have two fans around me
for some reason
my laptop is always on max setting for fans
and u cant turn it off
Yaki is top 5 rn
Top 7 akshuallu š¤
Why are you a paris fan and why are you Dutch
Shut up
you are new and not relevant dont talk to me you peasant
Iāve been hear since may stfu Connie fan
may 2022?
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your accent is ape
Active since may 2022
i want to say something but i do not want to get banned yet
Donāt think Iāve ever spoken jn vc
is it racist
of course not
It is
Did the racist nonce (provide) ever play OWL or was he just on teams but released due to āincidentsā
released before he played
i think him being released may have been a blessing
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If you mean like in terms of play and play style and shut then idk tbh, he is a good player from what ever had said itās just you know
Mans a cunt stack
im talking in the sense that by having to get another flex support within a month many teams already considered london a 20th place at the time and now by having last minute replacements it made londons sudden success all the more surprising for the other teams and therefore failure to figure a sure counter
im a london fan btw
yeah, by now most teams in the league probably have dedicated time periods to practise against these rush comps, especially in practise for london as their rush is something incredibly unique
Not reign tho
Too good for us
very good, now that the meta also may become junkerqueen goats, it might get even better
This isnāt real is it š
wtf
tons of back and forth
halo is claiming that danteh wants them gone for more playtime
danteh denies it
most people had london being 20th regardless of provide or not
but it helped make london look incomplete unready and bad
mhm
if they do it has got to be the most braindead move
removing piggy
i dont like it but i can get over it
but removing peli and iris right before going into a goats meta
there is no way they are that mental
it could be but i feel like they would make enough money
they have one of the biggest fanbases
well if chaan is right it will be
but who will take up the mantle
if chaan is right the org doesnt have a choice
probably just some mid tier contenders players
if thats the case then it wont be pretty
not at all
and its not like you could sign them for just the rest of the season and then drop them
none of the players would accept that deal
especially with the recent contenders strike most players wont put up with bs
well its the eu players rn
People would accept that deal asap
i dont think any of the na teams have been on strike
leaving your contenders team mid season to be dropped next season without a team
I understand that it might be a shitty thing to do but players still need money
maybe if they were top tier contenders players
Guaranteed money for a few months is better
you get guaranteed money but you would lose your team
the na teams didnt strike but only didnt due to last minute agreements as they were going to in a sense of comradeship
Yeah but it's contenders, roster swaps happen weekly
If you do well in owl you can for sure find a spot in contenders and maybe a budget owl team wants to sign u for next year
most top tier players in contenders are hard to spot rn as the meta currently doesnt lead to obviously skilled players as its a meta of speed and sustain
i guess if they get signed and dropped they could just dick ride the eternal for next season
i meant more like top tier teams
even them tbh
they couldnt afford anyone on a top tier team rn
assuming the problem is budgeting
if thats the case then yeah any poor lad would try fill a roster with any piece
I have your IP address and a drone strike ready
good
For what
bruv
to buy some shit tier middling NA contender andys and go 2-4 every stage?
I highly doubt their org is in desperate need of money currently
the whole time weve been saying what might happen if they have budgeting problems
i wouldnt doubt it
they signed huge names
and i'm saying they probably aren't
and got very little money from it
you don't sign players not expecting to pay them their whole salary
yeah thats why it may be a problem
marve1
teams have budgets for rosters for a reason
marve1 was shit so he got tossed unlucky
that's completely different than this
Yes players get dropped here and there for underperforming mid season, and for some really cheap orgs, maybe to loosen their budget to make different mid season signings
outlaws aren't a poverty org money wise
yes but in terms of success they dont have much of it and letting go of some high cost mid performing players to pick up some cheap yet mid performing players is better to keep high cost high performing players
pelican/iris are some of their better players so idk what you're on about
Piggy you can make an argument for performance wise
but i'd chalk it up more so to them trying to make him fill a role he was never meant to do
Iris is a big player
Pelican is #3 FDPS rn
#4 when leave is playing probably
Dantyrant imo
Danteh is the face of outlaws
Pushing his teammates out!!!
Super also was good
If u lose danteh u lose fans, especially in na
in terms of face of the team and sticking with them, they are similar
getting danteh out would be a
net positive
for the outlaws
peligod can recruit his korean friends
they would have a chance to win something
His doom is the only reason outlaws are relevant sadly
I dont think danteh is sticking around the league much longer anyway tbh but to drop him now would be a disaster for the org
good job he can play 1 hero
still don't know why they dropped jjanggu
him and piggy would have kept a good rotation
I think piggy had better leadership and more versatility
no
because piggy is bestie with pelican
obviously if u can only choose 1 u choose the guy that can get u pelican
They would have had both in that case
They wanted to solo tank, basically a glads case if u leave out circuit
But then they went with doom and danteh did better in scrims
And they stuck to it
Still would like to see the scenario where glads had super this season
perhaps
No, but they got solid results with dantank
huh
They would have kept both if piggys only plus was pelican
i dont understand what you're saying
i said if they can only choose one
and jjangu got benched before
sad
He couldnt ball
iirc ball was one of his more played heroes when he was in contenders
Which team will find the most success if junkerqueen goats becomes the owl meta?
Danteh is just there for doom maybe JQ
Outlaws go all out and get muze from tor
They should get someone
Who
not much changes
You mean the scenario where Gladiators have 4 less titles this season? No thanks
besides glads fanbase becomes 10x more annoying
glads have arguably the best lucio in the world and a top 3 brig
kev god genji pati solid sojourn
and Reiner is a very mechanically capable MT
Imagine telling someone in 2021 that there would be a meta where Shu rides the bench in OW2
former dps player on MT is like the dream for jq
My only concern with glads is if they can match the tempo required for this kind of brawl
I think shu is their only player who played goats in OWL
if it even ends up becoming the full time meta
I think they will be setting the tempo
glads have some of the strongest coaching too
Unless new evidence proves Space to be a guilty diddling mf he isnāt
I donāt think thereās a universe where space plays jq over Reiner
It's whoever does better in scrims
so Reiner
The universe where Reiner is beheaded by the Panama Cartel is one for a start
that wouldnāt be him playing over Reiner
that would be him playing to replace Reiner
Same difference
OK so if glads are going to have a great shot at dominating in this kind of meta which teams will find the most failure?
Shock
Same
outlaws are fucked
Unless they sign a ms last second
shock will be fine
danteh brig 
My concern with shock is that I don't believe mikkey or colluge will be too successful on jq and that finn will struggle to find much success
wait no move jake back to player role for brig ez
Currently we have zero idea who is gonna be good at jq
I feel like coluge would be good at jq
also, this is still a big "if" this becomes meta
and even if it does, not everyone is gonna force it
āShock will be fineā mfs trying their best to ignore Viol2t lucio FiNN brig meta because they have Proper
Viol2t lucio has been proven to be plenty good, literally if finn doesn't sniff glue on brig they would be fine
Floor lucio but Iāll agree itās better than FiXa
being a floor lucio means nothing
Iāll just ignore his last two lucio matches
Iām sure thereās nothing of note there
spastically jumping between walls doesn't make you a god tier lucio
The main issue with shock I believe is that they have a comfort playstyle, that kind of playstyle doesn't fit into a sustain meta
You guys are way too locked onto this being the meta
When it's only t2 running on a version of it without nerfs
āUsing a passive ability which most professional players use to get maximum value out of this hero isnāt necessary to be in the upper half of the league at this heroā
Just because t2 run it doesn't mean it won't be owl
Look at goats and double shield they found their origin in t2
Dive technically found origin in t2
goats is way different
It's not that different, it's an easy to run effective sustain composition
I mean goats wasn't easy
I think this composition takes more mechanical skill
Whereas GOATS is more based around team synergy
And also I would like to see this kind of comp tested and countered by non-shit tier players
āContenders players are shit tierā -Flameknight
Keep in mind most owl pros were t2 players
Imagine supporting tier two
if you want to take that literally, be my guest
But there isn't a proper running around in t2 anymore, or a kevster
Itās not like there is like 40 tier 2 players in OWL currently
Heesang forgor to exist @willow drum
you're missing the point, but that's ok
Overall an easy to run high mobility high sustain composition that can tank poke and avoid and counter dive whilst weakening sojourn is probably going to be meta for most teams
It doesn't matter if t2 play it or not
And London are still going to qualify using rush
I just don't have 100% confidence the meta will fully translate into owl, in contenders it's not even on the owl patch
London Spitfire 2022 Summer Showdown Champions does have a nice ring to it
my guess is contenders teams are stumped on what to do vs it in scrims and matches, so they're just mirroring to try and mechanically diff other teams
and I have more trust in some owl teams and staff to figure out what is actually working and not working this patch
But people are hyper fixated assuming every team is about to be full time running the EXACT same comp as contenders teams
I'm not saying they will run the exact comp but the baseline of brig lucio and jq is very likely
and I personally disagree
Munich esports ran it with Ash and won eu contenders what their opposition ran pharah
london will make playoffs
and immediatly get beaten out in 2-3 games
Londone imo
I think ball beats jq
he is so dumb
i assure you that o2 blast
beats a majority of OWL teams in NA
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1554933375038889987
We OWL fans pissed halo off so much he retired from esports reporting LMFAO
good
fuvk this baldie
They have to scrim apac teams
Which greatly
Lowers their skill.cap
Imo
Max is the goat
Tho
contenders
have better coaches
than OWL
most of the time
#hottake
rolled and smoked
tbf few owl teams have good coaches I think
it's re-iterated by the fact kuki managed to get on a team s5 and supreme still isn't gone
Supreme is the reason was got vigilinatee and happy
Despite a budget simmilar to titans
But we couldn't have fury or Jerry or ttuba or anyone from last year
Why would you ever have jerry over happy
Lmao
And I think fury wanted play in KR
And ttuba was SADLY perma benched
Jerry was shit
Happy was better
Also
Dallas fumbled happy I Learned
They said no to him
Imo they treated happy very badly
They even kicked him from the Contenders roster
Poor man
Went through a lot
Lost his sister in covid
are u talking about
element mystic days
Yes
I doubt piggy and pelican could go to Toronto
Hotba alone is being payed 120k+
I imagine the top players are being payed much more
Idk if outlaws can handle the pay request
@next mesa sad
Landon > Crimzgoat > Goatnamjin
i dont think you understand how the arrows work
Halo qutting esports? See you in another year
Probably cause heās fucked off half owl at this point
could be a combination of weakened mental, death threats, being a first time dad, gaming culture is toxic on Twitter
you know, real life problems
he hit his peak when end of S1 OWL there was no news about the 8 teams joining the league
and the Titans implosion of 2020
twitter degenerates the brain
so makes sense
Oh no who is going to be our trusted leak source now
watch me leak an announcement like the Las Vegas Eternal rebrand early
watch me disown you
Me
I have leaks
For s6 already
i thought the birdring name was retired
Didn't effect like beat his girlfriend
I miss birdking hope he earns Ws in ap*x
effect is
quite frankly
an L human being
Did you guys see the Contenders strike?
we are all seeing creatures
shut up lsd
based
hugo is super cool
It was
Just like eSports pros though, they unretire after 6 months.
Be⦠the⦠ballā¦
top 10 off tank in 2021 not even good enough for contenders A side
almost as if Hotba is better

what the fuck
not only is team peps, a mostly former paris eternal player team better than current paris
mobugi, the former coach now also has his own team who is better
State of OVERWATCH
Factually incorrect
You donāt truly believe this do you
i do
Team peps is
i truly have given up on paris
So ass lol
Weak mental
They are so washed it's not funny
weak irl
I could beat you in a melee fight
you can not
i do own several
Unreal
for a sport i practice
did not know the dutch partook in murder sports
Bro if the European country has ever stepped foot in Africa you donāt need to ask if they do murder sports
Current Paris May be worse than some Tendies teams but Team Peps is not one of them 
shut up empathy
No
perish
so what sort of murder sport do you practice
memeicus hunting
we hunt your kind for sport
you hunt shanghai dragons fans?
I mean O2 blast is probably
better than a good portion of OWL teams
shut up memeicus
its true
o2 blast > shanghai dragons
yeah well you are stupid
yeah well you are idiotic
i'd bet my kidney on it that dragons win that matchup easily
ur literally fucking blind
mhm!
if you cant tell that
100% of the time
from just watching the games
totally not like fleta is a useless piece of shit
classic american education
classic shanghai fan
lip is only reason why shd made this tournament
bozo
only reason why they were not knocked out first was cause dallas is shittier
wake me up when your country isn't collapsing in on itself
wake me up when shanghai dragons has a 2nd good player
š„±
hey wake up @willow drum
who is the 2nd good player
take any pick of the roster
leejaegon (god main support player)
whoru (number 1 genji in the multiverse)
void (fucks my mom)
unlucky void lmao
2 apes going at it
u could have had the perfect comeback (wake me up when your country stops committing genocide) and you didnt use it smh
do better next time son
leejaegon is so fucking mid
i figured i would move the insults away from country based ones
because i live in america
something not to be proud of
please keep going
hmm
i dislike bertholdt as a character
always a sidelined little bitch
never did anything noteworthy
Bruh Bert got shafted man
reiner clears
cope
reiner clears
hes the worst eldian warrior
Howād Connie live but not bert or Sasha
My guy did you see pieck or marcel
pieck has a dumptruck
Fucking useless
marcel had a good ending
Fairs but still
bertholdt had neither
Marcel was shit
marcel was also a little bitch
he had a good ending
Bert 1v1ād mikasa
i liked his plot and sacrifice
The duck Connie do, cry over his mother
Bruh man just leave
Opinion disregard bruh
he fucking saved everyone
Sheād cut ya head of lad
she couldn't
When and how
she is crying over her no bitches
Nah stay in Dutchland
I could take him
i know
he is stinky
as fuck
and incredibly inbred
if u took ians family tree
u could sell it to art museums
as abstract art
my family tree is legit non existant because everyone is either disowned or dead
how old are u
Give me an hour and half Iāll have accurate response
ur bday?
If you guys could draft a 5 man roster to dominate junker queen goats from a contenders team (past and current) who would it be
Me 5 times
i would chose max heesang proper vindaim chiyo
idk man someone like bumper could be cool
lmao bumper jq
and maybe someone like haksal on brig would be neat
and then add some other players like stitch, jjanu, twilight, slime, seominsoo and hooreg
Hadi, daan, proper,
?????
Pick two others idk games won already
smash or pass daan
Who did pƤris release again
Idk show
Ngl Shy MVP is a possibility
NGL IS NOT A ENGLISH WORD
Remember, he is an idiot
stop making up fake words
ABBREVIATION
IS NOT FAKE
@willow tartan help me
this is the 2nd english word
this clown does not know
dont fucking ping him
and claims to be fake
ian is disabled
he's gonna take this serious
please be accomodating
my bad
''accomodating''
use simpler cave man words for him
fucking fake words
accomodating is spelled incorrectly
i think u need 2 ms
????
LMAO WHAT
dont bully him memeicus
he is disabled
be accommodating
generations of inbreeding leads to abominations as shown
Today marks just 2 months until Overwatch 2's launch! We know players are eager to dive in and have seen questions about the possibility of a third public Beta. While we will continue testing OW2 daily internally, we're not planning any additional public Beta tests. (1/2)
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no ow til october
we gotta stay with contendies jq
u woud get proper destroyed
unfortunately the dutch do not teach the art of war anymore
how tall are you?
im pretty sure im the only ed regular who gyms 3x a week and does nutrition stuff
???
wow going to the gym three times a week i guess that means you won't get shit on by my sword
but he probably eats
we have been over this
i have practiced with swords, chains and spears
i am a better swordsman than you
just call it cosplay
get fucked memeicus
nobodys gonna check if its sharp
??? cosplay lmao
what r they gonna do cut their finger w it
no i cant i cant
they do check im p sure
its a homestand not an airport

