#esports-discussion

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empathy

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is a goat

willow tartan
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all former mods have microchips in their brain

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so the staff team can reactivate them at any time

plush grail
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memeicus

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go outside

willow drum
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^

willow tartan
north relic
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send us a hand grass touching picture

plush grail
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send a dick pic

north relic
willow tartan
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actually i am curious

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@plush grail google jakarta and tell me what images you see

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i want to see the regional filtering

frosty patrol
north relic
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i see some

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conflicting views

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plush grail
willow tartan
next mesa
plush grail
willow tartan
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now tell me

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out of any of the images you see

north relic
willow tartan
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would you go to any of them

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(they are all shit)

plush grail
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fuck no because they look nice but around every corner is a mugger

willow tartan
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okay thats racist

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where is jakarta

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i want to go to

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taiwan

plush grail
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cant be racist against my own people

willow tartan
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not your people

plush grail
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i have indonesian roots

willow tartan
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so why cant u speak indonesian

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i guess u r stupid

plush grail
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because i dont care about the languages

north relic
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hundred of generations

frosty patrol
north relic
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i was probably 1% european

frosty patrol
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java

plush grail
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tbh fuck indonesia

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shithole

willow tartan
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i am actually related to the legendary emperor of china

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the yellow emperor

plush grail
willow tartan
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????

frosty patrol
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????

willow tartan
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there is nothing outside worth going to

plush grail
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let's play some basketball

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shoot some hoops

worn falcon
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no

frosty patrol
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actually nvm

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memeicus is likely also short

plush grail
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lanky fuck

willow tartan
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ian

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height check?

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dutch people are on average 2 metres tall

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so you are probably below average

plush grail
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183ish

frosty patrol
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dutch people do not average 2 m

willow tartan
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it's like 190

frosty patrol
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Ian is like average for the dutch women

willow tartan
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for dutch males

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but I guess Ian is a femboy

plush grail
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181ish is average for males

frosty patrol
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183 is average for men according to CBS

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so Ian is average

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mid in everything including height

plush grail
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weight im overweight im p sure

willow tartan
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Below average gamer

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no shot

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im shorter

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than average

willow tartan
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you are also like still growing

plush grail
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you are asian

willow tartan
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you are germanic

frosty patrol
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lmfao

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not american

next mesa
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my genetics

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are so bad

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my mom is 152cm

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my dad is 173cm

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lol

frosty patrol
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My dad is 185 and my mom is 173

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but I dwarf them

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at 195.4

plush grail
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nobody fucking cares about height

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people only care about toned calfs

frosty patrol
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I have good legs

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but skip arm day

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and chest day

plush grail
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ngmi

north relic
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u are a giant LMAO

lofty shale
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bro wtf is t2 right now btw? Is hog actually playable i saw a team playing that and now there's a dude on junkrat

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also playing mercy and stuff earlier

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and have also seen brig lucio?

willow tartan
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Height is an important measure and factor to determine combat effectiveness

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combat effectiveness affects the long term survivability rate of a person

earnest leaf
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and if that goes into owl

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idk who the fuck is gonna be the best at it

cunning patrol
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Glads

earnest leaf
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shu is perma benched in that meta

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sadly

cunning patrol
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Nah he can sojourn

plush grail
earnest leaf
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seemed a bit of it in korean contenders

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but idk if he would stay in owl

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I feel like he's kinda shit vs brig lucio

plush grail
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i'd assume a poke hero would see no use with jq/lucio/brig

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sojourn is obv

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with the rail 1 shot

earnest leaf
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but he's probably used more so as a brawl hero

plush grail
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probably also hell to kill a genji with so much aoe healing

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so that might just be it

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its like

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goats

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but with 1 tank

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hahaha

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and bench the goat

earnest leaf
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true

north relic
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never do that

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imo

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i agree

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because tobi is being paid off

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by teams

cunning patrol
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They would not do that yeah

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Sad!

twilit oriole
worn falcon
earnest leaf
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rip goats

forest token
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I still feel the moira > brig

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but

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we shall see

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tendies also doesn't have the JQ nerf yet iirc

left bluff
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Why there is no announcement for Overwatch Contenders on #esports-news

north relic
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that nyxl will get to play flex support

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when they have 3 of them

forest token
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aren't we in a largely double fs meta rn

lofty shale
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so maybe it changed

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or maybe contenders just has a better meta read lol

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we'll see

forest token
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there's some teams running the moira over the brig atm

lofty shale
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the only thing is that ana should completely fuck the junkerqueen rush comp

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one well placed anti nade and your entire team dies

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theoretically anyways

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i know on svb's podcast evil toaster was saying it felt basically impossible to play queen into zen/ana

earnest leaf
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Imo a good rein comp with ana will shit on JQ

lofty shale
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that's what i was thinking

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like wouldn't the rein swings just sorta outdamage the queen

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idk

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does anti nade stop the queen from applying overhealth to herself and teammates?

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with her shout

forest token
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no

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it does not

lofty shale
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alright that's what i thought

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so maybe when the anti hits you can keep everyone alive with the shout health??

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but it wouldn't be enough against a coordinated team

worn falcon
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i want to see viol2t Zen instead finn

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smh

north relic
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its more like

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i want to see finn ana

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instead of viol2t

worn falcon
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instead we gonna get viol2t brig, finn lucio/moira

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4hed

worn falcon
worn falcon
lofty shale
next mesa
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but

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bilibili wallet bigger

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imo

lofty shale
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finn is better on flex supports than viol2t and viol2t is more experienced on main support

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but obviously it's best if they're both on flex support

kindred copper
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Who would y’all say are top 3 dps rn

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kindred copper
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no like actual dps characters

vagrant briar
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i'm millenial so not that old

kindred copper
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rofl

kindred copper
north relic
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in esports discussion

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expect players

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i would say

kindred copper
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I’m sorry I asked every other channel and everyone else just ignored me

north relic
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sojourn tracer

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widow or smth

earnest leaf
kindred copper
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ahh valid

frosty patrol
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for ow2 it's like

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sojourn tracer and then one of 5 dps

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torb

candid radish
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Bastion, tracer, Ana

tropic herald
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Ashe good on live

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So is Hanzo

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It’s still a lot of poke

twin bloom
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Wheir is.m8ball

keen abyss
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redbird dps vry good

cunning patrol
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Vision and chime are the goats

keen abyss
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i am big stryder fan but

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chime and vision very good

cunning patrol
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Ultimawep is awful

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Compared to da goat

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Chime

keen abyss
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i haven't noticed pummy much has he done anything

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guess he just answered

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not as much as chime thouhg

keen abyss
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the bizz guy is kinda good

balmy wolf
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my wrath is unescapable

cunning patrol
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wow youre new here!

next mesa
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thats crazy

twin bloom
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#WheirIsvulcN

north relic
balmy wolf
north relic
balmy wolf
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rest in peace mike

balmy wolf
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so true

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fuck

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i dont have my gifs

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#unlucky

cunning patrol
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hahaha

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#goodone

cunning patrol
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agree

balmy wolf
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mental

willow drum
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i am excited for bame1

balmy wolf
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WHAT

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BAME1 HIT GOLD??

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LETS GO

north relic
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he is fucking insane

willow drum
balmy wolf
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so good

willow drum
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he would easily make OWL

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imho

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if ageism didnt exist

fast tusk
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do you think jq is gonna get playtime

keen abyss
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yeah

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commanding shout is broken

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best peel ability in the game

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and her damage is good as well

fast tusk
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and is jq gonna be played with like brig lucio and stuff like contenders ?

keen abyss
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i would assume so

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which means this is

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a very good meta for glads :)

fast tusk
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mmm

keen abyss
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and a terrible meta for teams like shock houston and nyxl

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who only have fs

fast tusk
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shock ?

keen abyss
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shock have viol2t finn

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in a meta that is likely gonna be

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lucio brig

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they're probably gonna have to run some lucio moira variant

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or maybe even ana zen idk

fast tusk
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mmm

keen abyss
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even with the shout nerfs

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i think jq will still be very good

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will she be a must pick? maybe not there may be alternatives that teams like the san fraudcisco shock can use

fast tusk
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hope atlanta are gonna be good with this comp

north relic
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im a strong believer

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that JQ is bad

keen abyss
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top of KR contenders

north relic
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she might be played a lot early but figured out

keen abyss
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is using jq lucio brig

north relic
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i give it an lsd guarantee

keen abyss
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i once thought like you

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but if o2 blast is using it

north relic
fast tusk
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yeah im watching it in contenders that comp does look strong as fuck

keen abyss
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o2 blast and up academy

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both used it

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jq completely nullifies dive

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how are you gonna dive lucio brig sojourn backline

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when the tank that they are always playing with

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can instantly give them 100 temp hp

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and movement speed

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you have the 2 best peelers on support

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the best peeler tank

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dive is just nullified

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and it's hard to play poke when they can zoom across the map

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with speed amp + shout

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i want to see how the rein comp works against it

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does bap just get eaten alive

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supposedly its the prenerf jq

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so we dont know

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tbh

north relic
fast tusk
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its like a version of goats comp i cant describe

keen abyss
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prenerf then jq is definitely a part of meta

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you have a top 2 brig and a top 2 lucio

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ana is a hard counter to jq in my honest opinion

keen abyss
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and the most mechanically gifted MT in the league

next mesa
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also now that i think about it

keen abyss
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pati is already trained on the sojourn

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and kevster is a top genji

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@frosty patrol UP

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has a better roster

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on paper

keen abyss
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glads literally the best team in this meta

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than o2blast

keen abyss
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why would they play to counter meta

fast tusk
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does the jq comp have a name yet ?

north relic
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Cause the other team is playing counter meta and glads are confident on mirror

next mesa
fast tusk
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ahh

north relic
fast tusk
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JOATS

next mesa
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lmao JOATS

fast tusk
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HAWK CALLED IT

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LMAO

cunning patrol
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Lol

keen abyss
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which MT is better than reiner

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mechanically

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just in general

next mesa
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idk what u saying about mechanically

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but

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da goat smurf

keen abyss
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not specialists like with winston juggles

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fearless winston juggle does not translate to jq

keen abyss
frosty patrol
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entering finals

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O2 will be better on paper

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since they narrowly beat UP

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and are upper bracket champs

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then apr1ta rolls

twilit oriole
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If it’s like that glads are going back to back to back champions

keen abyss
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it would be so funny

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if glads won every single tourney this year

next mesa
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differential

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ignorant take

keen abyss
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smurf and profit are a legendary duo!! top of the league!

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(they got rolled by hawk Winston venom)

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profits gapped by kai venom

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u are quite

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stupid

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tobi got paid

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to bench seoul's clear #1 player

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(fits)

keen abyss
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I don’t remember fits playing very well when he was in

north relic
cunning patrol
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Imo

cunning patrol
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Fits was the betta playa last szn

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Imo

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Smurf was benched for a long time

next mesa
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watch

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da games

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i agree with

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jazzy's statement

cunning patrol
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But not in da atl game

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Sad

hot onyx
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i remember

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gambler was brought in

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because jehong and tobi

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cant play mercy

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and then he got absorbed

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by tobi

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right away

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sad

hot onyx
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Tobi unbirthing?

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(do not research that term)

cunning patrol
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Compared to tank

hot onyx
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Glad FunnyAstro survived the Tobi vore

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And went on to win titles

next mesa
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Fastro

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is the only guy

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that came out alive

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but imo that curse only works if tobi is the veteran

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of the team

hot onyx
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Jecse?

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everyone else like jecse

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well jecse was already mid

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slime

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gambler

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etc

hot onyx
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Yes but Jecse won a title despite absorbent

next mesa
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i suppose

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but i could've replaced jecse

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TBH

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my brig

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pretty nasty

hot onyx
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Wouldn’t surprise me if you went into the league and immediately ranked top 10 due to this disgusting main support drought

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tbh MS talent

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is the best

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it has been

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in years

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it would be even better if ojee

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did not

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do a minor flopping

hot onyx
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Ojee is performing exactly as I expected

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Still baffles me that Anamo FiXa and Opener found teams instead of Sanguinar and Hyunjae

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superich is a god

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i wish he would

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reunite with his boyfriend

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diya

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he would play better imo

hot onyx
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I wish he would too so that Spark could sign Lengsa or Hyunjae instead

next mesa
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swap

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lengsa and superich

hot onyx
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I have a better idea

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Swap

cunning patrol
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Superich Is upsettingly bad

hot onyx
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Diya and Pineapple

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Fair trade imo

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nah

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unless

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u also swap

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miro and nohill

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cuz nohill needs to coach his boys

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innovation for alphayi too (fair trade)

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still there

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imo

cunning patrol
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It is not

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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He is a little MS

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In a little MS region

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he is playing for a souless org

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bilibili

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imo if he had #poweroffriendship

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easily a #top5ms

cunning patrol
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Disagree

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Profoundly

twin bloom
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So I disagree

hot onyx
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Masaa performed worse than expected

cunning patrol
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KNG MYKL FAN

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Masaa is awful

next mesa
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masaa was

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lobby filler

cunning patrol
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Never was better than talents

next mesa
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on the reign

cunning patrol
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Like faith

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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Imo

twin bloom
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Who is disagreeing

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It is not me

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Imo

cunning patrol
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I was not talking to you

hot onyx
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Masaa had good brig stats

cunning patrol
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Imo

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Was making a broad statement

hot onyx
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And didn’t noticeably fuck anything up

cunning patrol
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After typing ur name for an unrelated reason

twin bloom
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And ojee outperformed my high expectations by being a solid mid zen playah

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Gappin shit zens like

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Lastro

cunning patrol
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Imo

twin bloom
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I have yet to see a player fail to gap Lastro

twin bloom
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Reign are just

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Inconsistent

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Matchday chokers

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Imo

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Vision and Chime

hot onyx
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Reign are NA Fusion

cunning patrol
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Obliterated pummy and Ultimawep

hot onyx
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With a better backline

cunning patrol
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twin bloom
twin bloom
hot onyx
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Imo

cunning patrol
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Those are 2 solid players

twin bloom
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Fusion

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Has belosrea

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And zest

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Who are good

cunning patrol
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Just trademarkin

twin bloom
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Rest not

cunning patrol
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The claim

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Imo

hot onyx
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Proud of him

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Imo

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Ojee lost because itsal

twin bloom
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And it is currently tied

cunning patrol
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Is the goat

twin bloom
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One-one

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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He is not

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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By any metric

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Belosrea is a goat

cunning patrol
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Belosrea monkay

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Same with zest

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In every vod u linked me

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Mid3

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Aimgod

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Was carrying

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The n3

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Fixa

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Holding the team

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Back

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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He was tank diffin

hot onyx
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He carried

cunning patrol
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And makin massive space for

hot onyx
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Infinitely

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Mn3

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All for mn3 to go even with shy

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On widowmaker

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And shy is a little widowmaker

hot onyx
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Disagree Shy is a great

cunning patrol
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His widowmaker is horrible

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He has stated this many times

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That he underperforms on the champion

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On matchdays

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Due to sad confidence issues

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And nerves

hot onyx
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Fragi also stated hanzo is Carpes best hero

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Pros aren’t always truthful

cunning patrol
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Fragi and carpe had beef

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fragi

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doesnt know

cunning patrol
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That is an irrelevant comparison

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what he's talking about

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imo

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but tbh

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carpe himself

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also said

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hanzo is his best hero MochiJoy truly hialrious 👌

cunning patrol
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It is

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Imo

hot onyx
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It is not in his top 5

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i think his best hero

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is probably

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cassidy

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His widow ashe cree soldier tracer torb and zarya are all better

cunning patrol
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His hanzo is insane

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He carried fusion on the champion in playoffs

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Despite hotba

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Mano

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And eqos best efforts

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His hanzo is a coin flip between brilliance and dogshit

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2021 was a crazy rarity of good Carpe hanzo

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2020

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not so much

hot onyx
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During CC and playoffs

cunning patrol
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2020 he was a good hanzgoat

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Imo

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2020 he was horrible hanzo

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i respectfully

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disagree

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and i think they shoulda put

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ivy

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on the zo

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Or even Heesu

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and put carpe on widow

cunning patrol
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They did

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Imo

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Ivy also played the zo

hot onyx
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Ivy hanzo was brilliant

cunning patrol
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Heesu was just awful off sombra

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Compared to other goats

hot onyx
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Respectfully disagree

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Never mind you finished typing

cunning patrol
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His widowmaker got obliterated

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compared to the other widows

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Heesu vs Lip Fits and Ans was domination

cunning patrol
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By fits

next mesa
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in the playoffs

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Diem

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Lip was not a very good widowmaker

next mesa
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idk about ans

cunning patrol
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In 2020

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yes

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he improved

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after the goat widow

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retired

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Ans obliterated

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A different time

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passed on his secrets

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ans obliterated carpe

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Not in playoffs

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in playoffs but

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not top 4

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i remember

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their grand finals match

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ans kind of fucked carpe

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Ans didn’t obliterate Carpe but he was clearly better

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i got a little sad

cunning patrol
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Carpe obliterated him

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i was rooting for 🐟

hot onyx
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I got very sad

cunning patrol
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In playoffs

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And in that one match

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worst widow

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in the playoffs

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by far

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Because I love Fusion and much like normal people, fucking hate the Shock

cunning patrol
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In that one sweep

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it wasl ike

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damage and elims

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fits

cunning patrol
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Carpe obliterated him

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on the very top right

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diem and heesu

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in the middle

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and ans

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bottom left

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of the graph

cunning patrol
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He demolishes him

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In this vod

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carpe demolished?

hot onyx
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Where W?

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wait didnt they

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lose this map

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Yes lmao

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this map i only remember

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carpe getting killed by ans

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twice

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when it was like

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almost end of the game

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the bias

hot onyx
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I remember FunnyAstro failing to touch the point

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ans is

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sometimes clutch

hot onyx
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And begging him not to play mercy for the rest of his career

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for example

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those 2 kills

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on tobi and profit

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on busan

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saved his career

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imo

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because otherwise he was kind of getting demolished

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but those 2 kills secured busan

hot onyx
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Despite the fact he ended his career to go to a dying esport

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after busan it was pretty gg

hot onyx
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Only to revive it

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And fuck his former team

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valorant

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is so much more alive

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than owl

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its so sad

hot onyx
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Only because people watch it

next mesa
hot onyx
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If Valorant didn’t have fans it wouldn’t be popular

next mesa
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i agree

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if i had money i wouldnt be poor

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sad

hot onyx
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Onlyfans is ripe this time of year

twin bloom
hot onyx
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Earn a bag or three

cunning patrol
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But carpe performed

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Like a goat

hot onyx
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He performed like a goat all season

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If they won Summer Showdown there is good argument for him winning MVP over Fleta

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But it would still be robbing Void and Alarm

cunning patrol
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By a solid coach

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Or were

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Imo

next mesa
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old AT coach?

balmy wolf
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who has the owl gifs

cunning patrol
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A person I know

lost thicket
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at the very least

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only need the other fs on brig

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glads might win 3 stages in a row

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jesus

keen abyss
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i can't believe we're at a point where the best support in the league

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is possibly gonna be perma benched

lost thicket
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shu?

keen abyss
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yeah

lost thicket
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I was gonna argue if best

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but

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tbh

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not a bad shout for best

keen abyss
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what's his competition

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fielder, izayaki, finn, ljg, vindaim, ch0r0ng, fastro

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uv

lost thicket
keen abyss
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viol2t

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is not s tier

lost thicket
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like the top 3 have great supports

keen abyss
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finn

lost thicket
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and other teams aswell but eh

keen abyss
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is not the best support player

lost thicket
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it's not clear

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but shu

keen abyss
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i don't think finn is even

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the best rookie support player

lost thicket
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def is a good choice

lost thicket
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UV?

keen abyss
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uv vindaim and ch0r0ng

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make powerful cases

lost thicket
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ch0r0ng gets a free pass cause of tendies

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jesus

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vindaim yeah sure

keen abyss
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bro has to play with hotba finale although and shitty coaching

lost thicket
keen abyss
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somewhere between B+-A+

lost thicket
keen abyss
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i think glads double fs is better than shock double fs

lost thicket
keen abyss
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ans was just getting

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hard stuffed by kilo on circuit

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and proper was playing very well too

lost thicket
keen abyss
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bap zen

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shu bap >> viol2t bap

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finn zen > skewed zen probably

lost thicket
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bap zen I'd take shock

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bap brig glads

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(I count brig as fs)

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(in this case)

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zen brig glads

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ana zen shock

keen abyss
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ana zen shock is the only one where i think shock can be favored

lost thicket
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this is all if the supportline is hard meta and doesn't need changing

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how many 2x fs are there

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gimme a sec

keen abyss
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who was the mf who kept arguing that moira lucio jq would be better than brig lucio jq

lost thicket
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Ana Moira Shock
Ana Bap Shock
Ana Zen Shock
Ana Brig Either way but depends if ana is more valuable or brig is
Bap Zen Either
Bap Moira same as ana brig
Bap Brig Glads
Brig Zen Glads
Moira Zen Shock
Moira Brig who the fuck even uses this

next mesa
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moira sucks

keen abyss
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ana moira ana bap moira bap all not real comps

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moira brig also should not be real

lost thicket
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even tho moira brig makes no fucking sense

lost thicket
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maybe in a deathball comp with jq for a future meta

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tbh

keen abyss
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so shock wins all the useless ones

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and glads win or tie for the useful ones

lost thicket
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I mean kinda, finn and viol2t shown to have good moiras

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but moira

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is just

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ass

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lmao

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well maybe her new orb sends her into meta

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but thinking currently

indigo jewel
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OW2 is mid

lost thicket
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Bap Zen Brig Bap Brig Zen Ana Brig Ana Zen and Ana Bap are the only really legit comps

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that you know

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see use

next mesa
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last year

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hahaha

keen abyss
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ana bap is not a real comp

next mesa
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ana bap

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is real

keen abyss
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in ranked

next mesa
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we are going

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off of theory

lost thicket
keen abyss
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ana bap is fake

lost thicket
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ana bap is in rank sometimes

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idk about owl

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tho you see fucking hog in ranked

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and it's not reiner or coluges hog

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wait that sounds gay

trim shadow
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Avrl retiring as the korean contenders caster to fulltime owl or sum

next mesa
lost thicket
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what the fuck

next mesa
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i remember on a control map

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i think it was oasis

keen abyss
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was it hero pools

next mesa
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against dallas

lost thicket
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this meta is gonna cause the best genji performance since haksal's existence

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idk why

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but trust

willow tartan
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whoru is the best genji in the multiverse

lost thicket
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someone is gonna do some ridiculous shit with genji

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just jq shout, beat, rally and packs

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fuck

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someone is gonna survive a headshot with one hp get a huge burst of hp blade and kill 5

next mesa
#

proper

lost thicket
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and get ultra mega healed by lucio brig

next mesa
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about to show the world

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he is t he best

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on like the 10th hero

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pepelaugh

willow tartan
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only possible if he murders whoru

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fly over to shanghai hq

lost thicket
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kevster diffed him on the genji

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but

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yeah

willow tartan
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?

lost thicket
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MM finals kevster was a better genji

willow tartan
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yes

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MM finals kevster was outperforming to a degree

lost thicket
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on genji

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and proper did some minor mistakes

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on tracer

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but overall fairly even

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by dps

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except gib

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we forget giv

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gib

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on tank glads were better

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on support fairly even most the time

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so dps was like, a bit better for glads, supports really depended on how the others played and tanks glads were better

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n tanks are most important

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in ow2

earnest leaf
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need to remember contenders is on pre jq nerf patch

willow tartan
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JQ wont be played that much

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she is not good enough

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to be fielded in the top level of the O W L

earnest leaf
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I personally think she might be ran on certain maps like lijang

willow tartan
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she will be another alternative to play the brawl

earnest leaf
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but I don't think we're gonna see her forced on shit like gib, despite t2 teams using her there

willow tartan
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but not mainstay

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I think it will mostly be personal preference to whether teams field her

earnest leaf
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jq watching as echo/tracer eats her backline alive

willow tartan
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watching? she will get incinerated

next mesa
#

echo

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will never get played

keen abyss
earnest leaf
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tracer blinks away and blinks back in since all the jq health decays now

keen abyss
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also it's still tracer vs lucio brig

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i still think

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jq lucio brig

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is one of the strongest anti dive teams

willow tartan
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what if you just play reinhardt and run into the enemy team harder than they run into you

keen abyss
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they run faster

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and eat your bap

willow tartan
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they cant eat your bap if u just

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deathball

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4head

paper totem
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What would u guys think of brig ult rework that is just the original one but only targeted on one ally. Like only brig and one person of her choosing gets it? Would it still be busted bc there are only 5 players. I’m thinking maybe if it legit only effected one person

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Ik devs r talking about changing it

earnest leaf
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I think brig needs either an ability removed or a complete re-work

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her design has just proven again and again to be way too strong

paper totem
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Which is Sadge bc I love ball lmao

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Her ult need change

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But I think her base kit is fine, although it’s unpopular opinion

earnest leaf
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It's why I think she just needs an ability removed at this point

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She does too much

paper totem
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It’s a give and take

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Her ult needs changes for sure

earnest leaf
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I really don't care if dive dies off if it means this game is finally free from brig

paper totem
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But idk about kit

earnest leaf
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I'm talking for normal ranked play too

willow tartan
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I think you just need to develop stockholm syndrome for overwatch like I have

paper totem
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I honestly rarely saw her played in beta

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She doesn’t seem very popular in ranked overall except for highest level

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I’m kinda biased though to be fair

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I’m an ana main an I love having a brig pocket me

earnest leaf
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Again, idc if a comp style dies off if brig is nerfed to hell

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It goes to prove even more so how unhealthy she is for the game

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that if she is really holding an entire comp style down, something is wrong

paper totem
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Legit rein rush is not seeing play without bap so same thing can be said for him

earnest leaf
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Rush existed long before bap was a thing

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Same for dive with brig even

paper totem
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Rein rush will not see play in current day without bap

earnest leaf
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yes it will

paper totem
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And brig

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I don’t know if Ana lucio would work

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In dive

earnest leaf
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It worked for years before bapt existed

paper totem
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It might but idk

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If brig didn’t exist

paper totem
earnest leaf
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iirc og dive was shit like lucio zen, mercy zen, and some other stuff

paper totem
keen abyss
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poke is the worst thing to happen to overwatch

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the game's worst state is always when poke is strong

paper totem
keen abyss
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teamfights are what make overwatch fun

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and poke is the absence of teamfights

paper totem
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I’m fine if brig ult gets deleted essentially

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As long as she keeps base kit

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Ik ppl hate her but i feel dive is healthy for the game

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Even if it’s at the cost of having brigs kit

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Ok I’ll stop im going in circles with this convo Srry

willow tartan
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poke = epic macro gameplay, skill rotations, planning ult fight, peak coordination

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brawl = shitty micro gameplay, just run into the enemy team lol, less about coordination and more about individual players popping off

paper totem
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Dive is much more fun to watch than poke

willow tartan
#

people enjoy different things

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there is no general consensus

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i mean for god sake some people fucking enjoyed goats

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they just pretend like 18 teams dont exist and say yeah goats good btw

balmy wolf
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Goats is the best

willow tartan
#

league player cant speak

forest token
#

og dive was zen/lucio, once moth came out it transitioned to zen/mercy

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ever since brig you run brig/zen end of story

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goats also was where a lot of teams figured out how to actually play the game imo

keen abyss
forest token
#

dive without zen is troll

keen abyss
#

nano monke

forest token
#

that comp specifically plays to cycle nano

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you pretty much will not take a fight until you have it

willow tartan
#

???

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ever since brig was added you run goats

forest token
#

because fighting before then especially into a discord is gg

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goats wasnt even found for a hot minute

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all the owl teams thought she was bad

willow tartan
#

also you are forgetting that ana brig dive was played for like 90% of all dive in 2020

forest token
#

I am

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you are correct

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it still heavily revolves around the nano

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which is another busted as fuck ability

willow tartan
#

ow1 heavily revolves around ults

forest token
#

nano is in a tier of its own

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you won’t even play around grav as hard as you play around nano

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unless ur talking ow2

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where grav is like half the character

willow tartan
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you wont play zarya.

forest token
#

zar overtook dva iirc due to matrix range nerfs and 4s brig boop ignores matrix (it is a very interactive character)

willow tartan
#

???

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zarya was not played more than dva in 2020

forest token
#

towards the end

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it’s been a hot minute and I wasn’t paying that close attention

#

but I thought last season dva and zar switched places in brawl and dive

willow tartan
#

2021 no

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just that a lot of apac teams like playing the zarya

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doesnt mean its good

forest token
#

and I remember watching a lot of bubbled monkeys jump at brigs

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I might also be thinking of apac meta

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either way

willow tartan
#

it wasnt meta

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it was charge and spark

forest token
#

brig is dumb

willow tartan
#

and nyxl

forest token
#

remove her

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dumbass character that should not have a reason to exist

willow tartan
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reason to exist: its funny when u boop a dva out of her boosters

forest token
#

the fact you have to recover momentum with dva boosters too

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fucking awful

earnest leaf
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tfw I wanna jump in as winston but they have a brig so I can't

forest token
#

tfw you want to play the game but they have a brig so you can’t

willow tartan
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just track the cd 4head

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just dont jump on the brig 4head

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just use ult 4head

forest token
#

my tolerance for people being bad and still beating me because a character exists is just getting thinner and thinner

willow tartan
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if they are bad why r u losing to them

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skill issue

split flume
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if brig is so good why don't teams run her when gladiators plays monkey Mmmm

forest token
#

then they pick any other character and I solo them and their team

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dumb as fuck

willow tartan
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i think u are just

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coping

earnest leaf
willow tartan
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cuz u dont know how to fight against more than 1 comp

earnest leaf
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nothing stops him

#

except proper

willow tartan
#

u sure proper stop him

earnest leaf
#

in their first series he did

split flume
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oh yeah this was the first owl tournament where the team from the lower bracket won

forest token
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lel

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glads op

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best team atm