esports-discussion

[next mesa]

there i said it

[devout path]

I tried to not do it but you just want to keep denying that I actually know what I’m talking about and you don’t

[next mesa]

i just dont care that you coached open division teams

like im sorry

no offense

[devout path]

Have you coached any team

[next mesa]

its a nice hobby

[devout path]

I don’t care either

[next mesa]

i dont have time

im currently busy with

college apps

[next mesa]

about what

[devout path]

That I coached an OD team

[next mesa]

then why'd you bring it up

who asked god damn

[candid radish]

What we talking about I’m lonely

[devout path]

Because you were being annoying and wanted you to stop doubting my intelligence when it comes to this game

[north relic]

A good way to make us stop doubting you is by admitting ms isn’t the most impactful role

[next mesa]

was you coaching OD teams supposed to make me stop doubting you about your intelligence about overwatch

because no cap it did not work

at all

[devout path]

It literally is

[next mesa]

nah

[devout path]

I would write an actual explanation that an actual idiot like all of you would understand but I’m currently busy sadly

[sullen berry]

Levy

Go back to snorlax

[next mesa]

i cant

bad memories w it

but

snorlax is great

but its time 2 move on

[sullen berry]

Okay because memecius has been struggling to recognize me with my pfp apparently

[next mesa]

u have been arguing in this server for like

a good

[sullen berry]

Least he feels more alone as the L-taking dragons this tournament

[next mesa]

30 minutes

obi

[candid radish]

Most important role is rein cause like big hammer=big death

[next mesa]

u recognize because

the nickname

[devout path]

And I have been sending short messages while doing other stuff?

[next mesa]

the nickname is

very recognizable

[sullen berry]

I'm saying my nickname hadn't even changed and he didn't even notice it was still me

[devout path]

How can anyone not recognize obi

[next mesa]

that is a little weird

[north relic]

Memeicus is just special

[next mesa]

i agree

[cedar oasis]

Really?

[sullen berry]

Before it was deleted he really had to know why some charge simp was trying to be kenobi

And it wasn't Mike

[devout path]

Once I get home I’ll explain why main support is the most impactful role

[sullen berry]

You already did, three times in one week I reckon @devout path

[devout path]

What

[next mesa]

imo

anyone with eyes

should recognize

that the role that lip plays

is the most impactful

respectfully

[devout path]

No lip is just impactful

He can random picks

[next mesa]

he would not be nearly as impactful on MS

[devout path]

But most of his play is with control of the macro from fate and ljg

[devout path]

Wow no way a hitscan can’t play main support

???

[sullen berry]

It's way funnier blurred because we all know who that is

[north relic]

Nah

A widow jumpshot

[devout path]

Yes

[next mesa]

obi

[north relic]

Isn’t made by fate

[next mesa]

dont you live in england

[devout path]

It is

[north relic]

A widow jumpshot isn’t made by fate

[devout path]

Again

[next mesa]

thats just wrong

imo

[devout path]

I wasn’t talking about random picks

[next mesa]

and u are unsavable

[devout path]

Wait till I get home

[sullen berry]

Is that like a brexit /s

[devout path]

Then I’ll explain it to you

[north relic]

Random picks is a lot of HS’s value

[next mesa]

i swear u live in england

[next mesa]

lip is a strong

independent man

[sullen berry]

Just my accent, I don't live there 👋

[next mesa]

8 foot 9

[devout path]

Read challenge

[next mesa]

understand HS role challenge

[devout path]

I did as a matter of fact say lip is impactful

[north relic]

I dare to say

Even more than leejaegon

[next mesa]

of course

[devout path]

Probably

[next mesa]

lip

most impactful player

in the lobby

by far

[sullen berry]

We need the Player impact ratings Stat asap after Midseason Madness data is complete

[next mesa]

any lobby

[north relic]

At any given moment

[devout path]

Due to him having great mechanical skill

[next mesa]

proper too

[next mesa]

i agree

thank u

for having da brain

[devout path]

So he can get lots of picks

[sullen berry]

Anyone going around and not appreciating Pati or Kai's hitscan?

[next mesa]

because he is on a role

where he can utilize

this great mechanical skill

and make

more impact

that MS ever wished

sadge

[sullen berry]

Shy crumbled along with MN3 at the worst possible moments

[north relic]

Pati has been better than expected

[devout path]

He is on a role that is dictated by macro for 90% of the game but the other 10% he is very impactful as an individual

[north relic]

Kai got gapped by lip hard though

[next mesa]

mn3

has been better

[next mesa]

unfortunately

u are just wrong

[devout path]

How is that wrong

[north relic]

widow is very independent

[next mesa]

if u think the gap

of lip

is dictated

by 10%

[sullen berry]

Nobody here would call patiphan a great hitscan, and that's the juice. He can really peak and it shows during tournament time

[next mesa]

imo

pati has potential

still

to grow

[north relic]

Pati isn’t a hs though

[next mesa]

lip gap

is 100%

[devout path]

Widow is heavy macro dependent except the very few times he can duel

[next mesa]

skill differential

widow duels

very often

[devout path]

Widows don’t duel very often

[next mesa]

imo

watch a game

[sullen berry]

[devout path]

Imo watch a widow

[north relic]

They duel enough to win an entire map off it

[next mesa]

humble opinion

imo addi

u have never watched

[devout path]

They duel when they have an advantage

[next mesa]

widow pov

in ur entire life

from whjat im hearing

[devout path]

I watch so many widow povs

It’s so funny

[next mesa]

in that case

it is

even more

incredibly sad

[sullen berry]

Just watch the encore screening and pay attention to the broadcsdt's addiction and to the widow 1v1 on gibraltar

It's justified but you gotta admit

[devout path]

Unless ur trying to tell me widow isn’t affected by the amount of space ur team has?

[north relic]

I hate how observers are watching kilos venom mine

[sullen berry]

Lot of positioning with that venom mine

[north relic]

Instead of something else

[next mesa]

it certainly is

case in point

ans

on the shock

[forest token]

shock was so good at playing around ans

[devout path]

Wow so you agree widow is dependent on macro

[forest token]

and the dude was nasty enough to justify it

[sullen berry]

It's really boring, but then casual viewers wouldn't have paid attention anyway that it protects him from one headshot

That hallway by ANS was a compete diff and a half

[next mesa]

it is

but the widow still has more impact

than the MS

lol

sorry

[devout path]

Widows only duel one another when they have an advantage in the duel because again it is stupid to maybe give the enemy team a free pick for 0 reason

[north relic]

There isn’t even an ms

[devout path]

Widow is exactly like valorant

[north relic]

When there is a widow

[forest token]

when they either have an advantage in the duel or need to neutralize an advantage the enemy has

[next mesa]

i disagree

lip and fits

[forest token]

or are just feeling themselves

[next mesa]

no balls grapple hook

all the time

because they fuck

[devout path]

Grapple shots are different

[next mesa]

they are also used off CD

[sullen berry]

And the supports in the losers finals - ojee and UV vs Shu and/or skewed + FAstro

[next mesa]

they are part of the game

[devout path]

As they aren’t necessarily dueling the enemy widow

They are looking for a pick

[next mesa]

imo u should stop ignoring

aspects of the game

that dont support ur view

[sullen berry]

The amount of confidence that ASTRO delivers on fucking main support of all roles is incredible

[devout path]

How am I ignoring aspects of the game

[sullen berry]

Intangible
But very powerful

[forest token]

lucio goes hard

[next mesa]

lucio goes pretty hard

[devout path]

When ur ignoring 80% of widow gameplay

[next mesa]

i agree

[forest token]

it's so funny the difference between 2016 lucio and now

[north relic]

Gangnamjin would be the best MS

[next mesa]

excuse me

[forest token]

there are genuinely diamond players that would have more impact than some of the 2016 lucios

[next mesa]

my boi

tobi

pioneered

the MS generation

without him

pioneered

pioneered didnt send

lag

[sullen berry]

So going back to Addis point. Do main supports dictate the entire game because they are the game

[forest token]

esp in NA a lot of the lucios were very passive and didn't really take advantage of their mobility

[devout path]

Owl camera people are just really good at understanding the macro of the game and how widow uses it so they can show widow when they will probably be taking a duel so you get the illusion that they are always taking duels

[next mesa]

shit logic

imo

[sullen berry]

It could be reworded better but the point still stands

[next mesa]

owl

has

[sullen berry]

Can they make as much impact on support as a dps

[next mesa]

pretty shit observers

[north relic]

Owl has bad observers

[next mesa]

BTW

[forest token]

if they're so good at understanding the macro why the FUCK am I spectating a hanzo staring at a wall as the fight goes down

[north relic]

They watch mn3 looking at a corner

Instead of like sigma

[devout path]

I did not see this

[next mesa]

they do it

all the time

[sullen berry]

One objectively wins the match, but if you look at Shu's sleep darts that alone can change the tide of the fight

[next mesa]

they show widow holding an angle

for like 10 seconds

[forest token]

there are points when I'm vod reviewing shit where I just have to give up because I cannot see what happened

[next mesa]

and nothing is happening

because those idiots

think that the enemy

will peak

[sullen berry]

Proper may have had a shot if glad's Ana wasn't insane

[forest token]

something happened, someone died, but there is simply not enough information to gather what the fuck happened

[next mesa]

actual 0 head

[devout path]

When I see widow games I always see that the observers are pretty smart when it comes to widow

[next mesa]

disagree

they miss lots of widow kills too

[devout path]

Because it’s random picks

[full lichen]

My Lucio kinda fire ngl

[sullen berry]

They aren't there for every first pick on widow

[frosty patrol]

oh dear fucking god

[next mesa]

u can see it happening

a mile away

when lip goes for a grapple

[frosty patrol]

how many minutes was the game @full lichen

[next mesa]

u switch camera

[full lichen]

8

[next mesa]

not that big of a challenge mentally

imo

[frosty patrol]

10k heals per 10 lucio

literally throwing

[forest token]

give us

a map pov

[full lichen]

I got 8+ per 8

[forest token]

a stream that's just the fucking map

[devout path]

Except it is when ur trying to observe other things as well

[sullen berry]

Higher heals > often the losing team

[forest token]

and the characters on the map

please

I want to see what the fuck happened

[frosty patrol]

7.5 minutes/10 objective time

[next mesa]

8 minutes

thats crazy

what a beta

[full lichen]

6.2 out of 8

[devout path]

Honestly

[sullen berry]

POV pinata on dorado

[next mesa]

fight is over

[frosty patrol]

10k heals/10 and 7.5 minutes/10 objective time is just afking on heal

it's not good gameplay

[next mesa]

if lip hits that shot

pretty important

imo

[north relic]

How many observers are there

[full lichen]

I didn't tho

[devout path]

Like 10

[full lichen]

I actually had value

[frosty patrol]

SR Check?

[devout path]

Well not

[north relic]

If there are ten

[devout path]

10 for players and then another 5

[full lichen]

1300

[north relic]

One should stay on widow forever

[devout path]

So 15

[north relic]

and switch whenever she grapples

[devout path]

Trying to coordinate what the broadcast should see

[frosty patrol]

1300 switch?

dear god

why are all the mayhem fans bronze on switch

[full lichen]

1362

[next mesa]

u should int

into player lobby

imo

[frosty patrol]

you can hard farm backlines on lucio in 1300

[full lichen]

I kinda did, the Zen wasn't good but sometimes the Zen did kill me

[full lichen]

6VDJKQ is the code if you wanna see how much value I had, my name is THEDOUG

[frosty patrol]

I am ready to watch the worst gameplay of all time

I'll take notes

[next mesa]

imo

u should go zen

and spawncamp

do not play

with ur team

[full lichen]

Zen is my main on Support

[next mesa]

listen listen

just click some heads

dink dink dink

boink boink boink

bam

they rdead

[frosty patrol]

1. You have literally no awareness and an unhealthy amount of fear

[full lichen]

It's hard to aim on Lucio, especially on Switch

[frosty patrol]

like you sit out in the open right in front of a hog with hook

and then run headfirst into a hog and dva

you are straightup inting

[sullen berry]

Could this map 1 take any longer for PRX whose gonna win the pistol round?

[cedar oasis]

isnt the fov on switch like 3?

[frosty patrol]

2. You are unaware of threats and not attempting to avoid or deal with them (see: the junk in your team and the hog 4 feet in front of you)

[devout path]

Prx never loses pistols

[frosty patrol]

the fact that you haven't died twice in the first minute is a fucking miracle

[next mesa]

if prx

does not play yoru

[devout path]

But if prx does lose pistol fpx has a goated bonus

[next mesa]

im gonna fucking LOSE IT

IM GONNA LOSE IT

PLAY YORU

[full lichen]

I only die twice the whole game

[next mesa]

PLAY YORU

PLAY YORU

PLAY YORU

[next mesa]

shit opopnents

[frosty patrol]

3. Stop walking right into a hog and zen on 100 hp, should've died

[next mesa]

not good play

no offense

[frosty patrol]

there are 4 times in the first 90 seconds I saw where you should have died

[tropic herald]

both of these teams are so likeable

[frosty patrol]

there are 4 times in the first 90 seconds I saw where you should have died

you are getting boosted by shit opponents

[devout path]

Fnatic is likeable too

[full lichen]

I just kept on booping everyone to the side and wall ride so they can't hit me

[next mesa]

sad

are they gonna

be back at champions

i wonder if

they make any roster moves

dont think so

derke

was not that guy

unfortunately

[full lichen]

Their Sigma never hit me XD

[frosty patrol]

3. Why are you just never shooting

you barely shoot the whole game

[devout path]

yes p much everyone is already guaranteed at champs

[frosty patrol]

and when you see something you either forgot to shoot at it or take 3 seconds to start

[next mesa]

i mean

[full lichen]

I shoot more as the game goes on

[next mesa]

performance wise

[next mesa]

as lucio

there is almost no reason

for u to not

do the clicky click

left button

all the time

[frosty patrol]

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU WALKING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A GENJI HOG AND REIN

WHAT IS YOUR ENDGAME HERE

[devout path]

https://www.vlr.gg/event/1015/valorant-champions-2022

[frosty patrol]

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE

[next mesa]

i know the teams that qualified

i mean performance wise

i doubt

[full lichen]

I had my team backing me, so I walk up as distraction and then my team goes behind and kills

[next mesa]

fnatic makes any roster moves

but i wont be surprised

if they drop mistic

thats a total fnatic move

although i dont think they should do it

[frosty patrol]

my brother in christ your movement is not good enough to be trying to play maintank and bait hook

and if you want to play the reddit game don't default down main

take an off angle

[devout path]

they shouldnt

[full lichen]

Tank happens to be my main role, I'm good in tank

[next mesa]

i agree

[frosty patrol]

first thing you need to work on is some semblance of fear

[next mesa]

u are not

[devout path]

they underperformed compared to what they can do

[next mesa]

playing main tank

atm

[full lichen]

I don't have reddit

[frosty patrol]

first thing you need to work on is some semblance of fear

[devout path]

let them go again for champs

[full lichen]

I'm gold

[frosty patrol]

you run into hog rein and genji with 150 hp

[tropic herald]

YORU

[frosty patrol]

that is never the play

[devout path]

i just

[next mesa]

PLZ

[devout path]

really really hope

[next mesa]

derke

[devout path]

m3c makes it to champs

[full lichen]

Ok

[next mesa]

underperformed

[frosty patrol]

bowol you absolutely need to realize how much health you have

[next mesa]

the rest of the team

[frosty patrol]

and have some fucking fear

[next mesa]

did pretty good

[devout path]

no they didnt

[next mesa]

derke needs to be

that guy

[devout path]

they made a lot of team mistakes

[next mesa]

i agree

[devout path]

which is very uncommon for fnatic

[next mesa]

i mean the whole tournament

[full lichen]

Ok, more health recognition and fear

[next mesa]

it was very common

in this tournament

imo optic

played shit as well

[devout path]

its not common for fnatic

it shouldnt be happening for fnatic

[next mesa]

no thats wrong

on LAN

[devout path]

they are the quintessential macro team

[next mesa]

oh fuck shao

[next mesa]

things change

on LAN

optic played worse

as well

and xset

games looked a lot more messy

than domestically

i think prx

are the only ones

playing normally

compared to domestic

thats why they are

so far

[devout path]

fpx get 4 here

btw

[frosty patrol]

That's probably all the info I can give you without overloading you, work on that and then work on utilizing your kit more effectively like booping people in, using boop to disrupt cds, amping speed on engage, and learn boop range

[next mesa]

i agree

13-4

for PRX

[devout path]

unless prx get a good eco

4-0 for fpx

[full lichen]

Ok

[next mesa]

jinggg

doing a little bit of trolling

all good

[frosty patrol]

you should send that replay to flats

everyone in the game is tossing

it's hilarious

oh wait it's qp

nvm

don't send

[full lichen]

I'm not subbed to him anyway

[next mesa]

it would be bad

if we encounter demon shao

the whole game

[devout path]

like i said

4-0

fpx have the best bonus rounds in the game

[next mesa]

its unlucky that

thats all they're getting

[devout path]

no

they won a gun round

smile

[next mesa]

they are bricked up

hahaha

[devout path]

this looks like an 8-4 half for fpx

[north relic]

So you are relying on your bronze teammates?

Always be the last alive

[devout path]

6-0

nice

[full lichen]

I was

[full lichen]

Ye

[next mesa]

u should never

rely

on bots

lemme ask u this

would u trust a bunch of 5 years olds

[full lichen]

Ask away

[next mesa]

to catch you

when you fall down

a 10 foot liff

cliff*

[fiery hill]

Yes

[full lichen]

No, I weigh 160 pounds and I'm very stronk, and I'm 5'11

I would crush those 5 year olds

[frosty patrol]

you go short king

[full lichen]

I'm almost 6 feet tall

[north relic]

This is the only edge mike has on us

Let him have it

[full lichen]

Oh,ok

[next mesa]

im like 5 8

omegalol

5 8 5 9

[cunning patrol]

I am 6 foot 1

[devout path]

both timeouts for prx

[cunning patrol]

Prx are awful at bind if they’re losing to fpx on it

[next mesa]

they forgot

how to yoru

unlucky

[devout path]

holy

fpx

are so good

this is so much better than yesterday

[next mesa]

jinggg is not hitting his raze ults

gg u cant win

[devout path]

HOLY

BENKAI ALMOST WON THAT

if benkai just didnt die they win

fpx are looking so good

they win this

[next mesa]

upon further inspection

im closer to 5 9

which is really just 5 10

but thats really just 5 11

but u gotta round it

so like technically

im 6 feet

[devout path]

cope

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/tears-gif-25152259

i think i grew

[devout path]

also imagine losing bind

[next mesa]

3cm

[devout path]

they physically cant win this

[next mesa]

in the past

3 years

[devout path]

fpx are on defense

gg

[next mesa]

ayo

new spy x family chapter just dropped

sorry copenhagen grand finals

holy fuck bro

what a chapter

[hot onyx]

@devout path who is transphobia itself?

[devout path]

WHAT

[next mesa]

huh

forsaken did a little bit of trolling

that last round

sigh

[frosty patrol]

hellfire doesn't know the quote

of mine

you know which

post the screenshot

[plush grail]

Wtf glads won

[hot onyx]

of course they won moron

[supple prism]

woah

[north relic]

Shock never really stood a chance

(They are ass)

[supple prism]

they are consistently on top

[next mesa]

top 2 and they aint 1

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/sen_ebooks/status/1551085800565395458?s=21&t=gRsqHa8rurK6cNknMfnJtw

森 sen (@sen_ebooks)

nemesis

Likes

241

Twitter · Jul 24, 2022, 6:04 AM

[forest token]

good move censoring the toes ngl

[devout path]

second best emea team btw

[next mesa]

best*

[cunning patrol]

Fpx owns those lan chokers

[next mesa]

come on prx

TURN UP

👏 👏

BABY DONT HURT ME

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/giantomelette/status/1551252744467537920?s=21&t=gRsqHa8rurK6cNknMfnJtw

Lionel (@GiantOmelette)

Every Jinmu stream has a Jinmu Eating Segment. Jinmu eats takeout, reviews it, and tells his chat that he will never move his mouth farther away from the mic and everyone will just have to deal with his eating ASMR forever.

Twitter · Jul 24, 2022, 5:07 PM

[next mesa]

NO MOREEEE

thats poggers

prx pistol rounds 💀 💀

[cunning patrol]

💀

Prx throwing

[fiery hill]

What are the teams that lost the tournament doing

Are they still playing games

[shell onyx]

watching masters makes owl look like a joke

[forest token]

bro they themed the entire last LAN around the upcoming agent release

[shell onyx]

im just talking the stage

And all that

i dont really understand why each of their tournaments has a weird theme and aesthetic but ig it looks cool

[forest token]

also they put brenshow on the finals

idk if they're gonna do a map or agent release this time that also is with the tourney theme

[devout path]

its a character teaser

also what happened with the economy

did prx force?

[shell onyx]

they have been forcing a decent amount

[forest token]

I think prx lost pistol forced 2nd and won bonus

[hot onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825592301194838016/1000778087551729685/image0.jpg

Million bucks in prize money'

surely they buy a good support line next season

[twin bloom]

Lol toronto

[cunning patrol]

they did

[devout path]

what the hell

is this comp

[willow drum]

somehow les tham houston

[devout path]

if fpx win this

which they should

shao is tournament mvp

this game

is so good

[cunning patrol]

Unlike forsaken

Sad!

[devout path]

cope!

THIS GAMEEEE

[cunning patrol]

Suygetsu

[devout path]

imagine that team last stage

optic was lucky emea wasnt there

holy

that grand finals was great

[cunning patrol]

Optic would’ve obliterated them

[devout path]

?

[cunning patrol]

Emea flopped

Sad!

[devout path]

emea won

sad!

[cunning patrol]

They’re Chinese

[devout path]

second seed btw

[cunning patrol]

Ardiis is so European

Fookin amazing

[devout path]

theyre turkish

[cunning patrol]

Isn’t he Latvian

[devout path]

ok i lied

ardiis is latvian shao and suygetsu is russian

ange1 is ukranian

zyppan is swedish

[cunning patrol]

Ik yhat shao and suy are

It’s why they’re so good!

[devout path]

d00mbr0s is swedish

[tropic herald]

The vauguely EU team won

[cunning patrol]

Lmaooo

[tropic herald]

I am actually really excited for champs

So many arcs

[cunning patrol]

#sensweep

[devout path]

champs is gonna be great

[cunning patrol]

Crazy

[devout path]

na needs a redemption arc

emea back on top

apac is too scary

[tropic herald]

KR same as normal

[devout path]

korea is just drx

[tropic herald]

Edward Gaming not unleashed on the world yet

[devout path]

japan is still competitive

brazil is gonna get revenge

[next mesa]

give them

a few years

and they will be on top

fpx is chinese org so

technically

already on top

ahaha

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/ATornado_OW/status/1551284015549890563 NA contenders diff

American Tornado (@ATornado_OW)

#ATWIN

Likes

296

Twitter · Jul 24, 2022, 7:11 PM

[cunning patrol]

Agree

#whereisEU

[earnest leaf]

the more I watch all these AT guys do shit in owl, the more I think if they were all on the same team they would be top 5 in s4 or even s3

actually easily top 5 in s3

[hot onyx]

Reiner only championship calibre one

[frosty patrol]

the full AT team

reiner: 2nd
coluge: 2nd
hydron: painfully mid
speedily: probably like 5-8 range/s9mm, painfully mid
ojee: upper mid
uv: 5th

[next mesa]

that hydron claim

was that v ery outrageous after all

[cunning patrol]

Uv is 4th

Fifth if ur sucking vigs dick

[earnest leaf]

ngl s9mm has gotten way better this stage

probably because shock actually made him play a few heroes instead of random shit

[next mesa]

fpx, optic and prx are shaking

[plush grail]

how are reiner and coluge both 2nd

or am i missing something

[north relic]

OT fell off hard

and reiner is just great

[frosty patrol]

I'm ranking MT and OT

[plush grail]

ah makes sense yeah

[cunning patrol]

Yeah tank is officially a dead role if coluge is 2nd

Also if we ranking Reiner on mt heroes he not 2nd

[tropic herald]

You must consider however the full team to owl debuff

[twin bloom]

AT in owl with good coaching would be top 5 NA

Source mayhem

Is top 5 NA rn

And the AT starting roster is better in every position

Also eu fans mentioning wub and false to make AT look bad is strange

[twin bloom]

He was always a good player he was gapping mediocre overrated OWL off tanks like gargoyle in scrims even back in s3

Just never got a shot up until now sadly

[cunning patrol]

he was a goat

but #2

is sad

imo

[twin bloom]

In terms of OT

Hanbin is still above

Maybe hawk

[frosty patrol]

coluge is 2nd on ot

[twin bloom]

And space

I wanna say void

But coluge gapped him

Imho

[frosty patrol]

void and hawk should be above

but that is wavering

[cunning patrol]

Also are u factoring in doom

For reiners ranking

[frosty patrol]

yes

doom is a mt

[twin bloom]

Man i just realized

Ot is so dead

Now

Lmao

[devout path]

its just tank now

[twin bloom]

It is just coluge hawk space and void

[devout path]

well

actually

[twin bloom]

And hanbin

[devout path]

i guess it would be separated by what comp they are in

[tropic herald]

I think Void individually maybe but idk shanghai overall been poopy

[tropic herald]

It was this last year too just no Coluge

Well I guess not exactly

[twilit oriole]

Get this shitter out

Put Goatba in that

Crazy how trashbin got diffed by Goatba when they played on zar 🤦‍♂️

[next mesa]

hotba

got absolutely shit on

on his 1 trick

by hanbin

did u even watch

[tropic herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/w6j3yp/propers_midsesson_madness_stats_on_the_cn_stream/

This guy different

[devout path]

get off reddit

[tropic herald]

I don’t have a Reddit account

I got linked This

And went

God damn

[north relic]

edited

[earnest leaf]

this is why I just can't see him not winning at least ROTY

[north relic]

a circumstance

is if glads win every fucking tourney

reiner is likely

[earnest leaf]

alarm won roty without any wins

leave won mvp without any wins

[cunning patrol]

Fake

[north relic]

but they were good players

also no team has won every stage

[cunning patrol]

Proper isn’t

#real

[tiny pollen]

proper mvp roty role star

[frosty patrol]

proper does not deserve mvp when victoria exists

#real

[tiny pollen]

#real

#lf-players-na

[north relic]

ROLE STARS
DPS: Lip, proper, kevster, kai
Tank: reiner, smurf, hanbin, someone
support: shu, finn, funnyastro, vindaim

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[north relic]

real and true list

[cunning patrol]

Ur a monkey

[tiny pollen]

violet replacing vindaim

[north relic]

no one on defiant deserves role star (muze and chorong)

[cunning patrol]

Kai isn’t a role star

[north relic]

ok

i agree but i dont like anyone else

[cunning patrol]

His sojourn is pretty bad

[north relic]

SHY is recency bias imo

[frosty patrol]

I take lip proper kevster and a rookie apac dps or shy

[cunning patrol]

Kai is the best widowmaker

[tiny pollen]

alphayi replacing kai

[north relic]

i could see zest or yi

[cunning patrol]

But he got decimated by stalk3r and lip

On sojourn

[north relic]

respectable sojourn players

[earnest leaf]

and seoul/shd still got eliminated

[cunning patrol]

Against London his sojourn was pretty bad too

[cunning patrol]

How is that relevant

If anything that makes his case worse

[north relic]

other than kai do u disagree

with anything

[cunning patrol]

I think muze is up there

[north relic]

i refuse to put defiant

[earnest leaf]

can't wait for owl staff to somehow make profit mvp or role star despite like 10 dps being better than him this year

[cunning patrol]

Also #hottake but Bernar has been insane

Even on stage 1 his zarya was top 5

And this stage he played everything

Fearless is insane too

[north relic]

danteh

tank role satr

[cunning patrol]

Unironically

He’s a top 10 tank this year

Reiner Smurf hanbin Bernar hawk hadi someone fearless muze danteh

Oh maybe coluge is up there too

[tiny pollen]

hes after hawk

or before bernar with hawk being infront of bernar

[cunning patrol]

Hawk is being a full time starter on a good team which boosts him up

[next mesa]

proper is so fucking good

where are all the shitters that said to hold my dick sucking because "u dont know how proper will translate to owl" shut up bitch ill suck him when i wanna

[frosty patrol]

danteh is dependent on his hero being viable

sadly doom is now shit

blizz nerfed him

[tropic herald]

The Bernar and Alphayi synergy was pretty good most of the tourney yeah

It was like clockwork

Irony would discord someone and Bernar and Alphayi would be on them

[cunning patrol]

Yeah

[frosty patrol]

weird list

imho

[tropic herald]

It makes some sense but also not really

Defiant erasure

[frosty patrol]

also nohill underrating

and boston overrating

[tropic herald]

NoHill is NOT underrated

[frosty patrol]

he underates nohill by having him under justice and uprising

[tropic herald]

that man RUNS Zarya Sombra Sojourn Lucio Zen

[hot onyx]

Spark too low

Anywhere below 3rd is borderline stupid

[north relic]

everyone who makes their power rankings this way

has bad takes

[hot onyx]

Boston above Defiant and Hunters too 💀

Dox this imbecile

[viscid pecan]

do you think xqc could've joined a team back in the days

and play OW leauge

[frosty patrol]

he did lmfao

[viscid pecan]

oo

[hot onyx]

2018 Dallas Fuel

[frosty patrol]

everyone with a heartbeat who is not a felon knows this

[hot onyx]

Numbani 2nd point C9 incident

[north relic]

2021 fusion

Numbani first point

losing to valiant incident

[hot onyx]

Tank gap

[frosty patrol]

2022 fusion

midtown incident

[hot onyx]

There is multiple midtown incidents

[north relic]

2022 Ian Hate Group

Hollywood incident

[frosty patrol]

the big one

[cunning patrol]

agreed

[hot onyx]

Not a hot take

Bernar has actively been the 2nd best apac ot this season

[last nimbus]

boston on 12 lol

thats a weird list

[cunning patrol]

Not a high bar

Sadly

[cloud latch]

a true genius

[north relic]

guys

ho1 is coming

be afraid

[twilit oriole]

You are R worded

He made hanbin his bitch first map

[fathom igloo]

How is ATL 3 in PR spark are much better

[twilit oriole]

Defiant 9

[fathom igloo]

Nah London and FL are both better then tor

[devout path]

dramatic overrating of philly

[fathom igloo]

Also val over was

[tropic herald]

Beat Spark

[devout path]

spark went to game 5 against glads so therefore spark = shock

[tropic herald]

Spark lost their 5th, Shock won their 5th

[devout path]

cope harder

[fathom igloo]

ATL is over hyped as always

[next mesa]

4goodking

no eyes

[north relic]

addi is the one coping

[fathom igloo]

More like no brain

[earnest leaf]

still took out apac teams

exposed the fraud region

[fathom igloo]

They do well in tournaments but never show up regular season

[earnest leaf]

So they show up when it matters is what you're saying

[fathom igloo]

Also hot take SFS should of kept nero

Or at least moth

God moth is a FA

[earnest leaf]

Moth is a human and made his own decisions to leave shock

And seeing how teams built rosters, MS wasn't a priority

Also s9mm has been doing plenty well

shock also probably wanted somewhat of a fresh start with majority rookies

[fathom igloo]

Ok how many finals have they won without moth zero how many have they won with him two point stands

[earnest leaf]

yes and glads perma benched moth last year and still won a stage

[fathom igloo]

Cause you had shu muze birdring and kevater

[cunning patrol]

Moth wanted to leave

[willow drum]

@frosty patrol

someone is saying

HeeSang is not Shock level caliber of player

[frosty patrol]

that is correct

[willow drum]

I am so close to yelling racially motivated slurs

[frosty patrol]

because the shock's non-hyperflex flex dps is s9mm

and heesang is not s9mm caliber

[willow drum]

heesang is better than s9mm

[frosty patrol]

yes

and is therefore not s9mm caliber

[willow drum]

no they mean

heesang is not good enough

for shock

not that he's too good for shock

[frosty patrol]

a 50 does more damage than a 22 and a 50 is not the same caliber as a 22

[willow drum]

that he's not good enough for shock

[willow drum]

okay that is not what they mean

help me clown on this bozo

[frosty patrol]

ok where are they

[willow drum]

shock discord

match discusion

[earnest leaf]

ngl you could probably take any B tier or higher fdps and they would do well on shock

idk why someone would think heesang isn't able to do so

[next mesa]

SEND THE LINK

i want to join

on the clown show

[willow drum]

LMAO @frosty patrol

he gets clowned on by 4+ people for saying that

makes an excuse

its so unlucky

[twilit oriole]

Stfu levy

[next mesa]

Hanbin crumbled that fraud

[twilit oriole]

He didn’t

In fact it was the opposite

Goatba was running laps on trashbin

[next mesa]

Hilarious opinion

[twilit oriole]

I’m banned from there

Stupid timber

Banning me bc I said sfs sucked

[willow drum]

lmaoo

[next mesa]

@frosty patrol this is

Hilarious

[frosty patrol]

agree

[candid radish]

Why are you arguing on school discord and where can I join

[willow tartan]

why would you want to join the shock discord

[candid radish]

Idk tbh

I wanna the London one

[willow tartan]

!!owlcords

there is a command for it

!!owl

!!discowl

!!owlcord

[cunning patrol]

L

[candid radish]

To shout at people for my spitfire jersey that should exist

[willow tartan]

ok you try it @cunning patrol

[candid radish]

Meme could it be due to putting two !! And not one !

[cunning patrol]

No thanks

[next mesa]

Jazzy

I'll have u know

[willow tartan]

no cause all commands use two exclamation marks

[next mesa]

This "church" kid

[willow tartan]

that's how it has always been

[next mesa]

Tried to insult u

[willow tartan]

!!rule3

[young fractal]

3 — USE CHANNELS FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE

Check channel descriptions for more information before posting; errant messages may be removed. For example, LFG posts belong in the 'LFG' category only.

[willow tartan]

see

[next mesa]

But u know I'm ur boy so I gotchu

[willow tartan]

fucking dumbass

[candid radish]

Bitch you’re the one trying to make commands

I could go on to the spitfire Twitter it’ll be on their

[willow tartan]

??????????????????????

literally every single command uses two exclamation marks you fucking ape

use your brain before you speak you dimwitted meathead

[earnest leaf]

I can't imagine joining an owl discord

Probably full of shit takes and high grade copium

[willow tartan]

the outlaws discord has weapons-grade copium

[twilit oriole]

You don’t know him💀

Jazzy and him are friends

[frosty patrol]

same with the shock discord

[frosty patrol]

he is calling us jazzy alts but sadly he is the only fraudulent user in the conversation

[hot onyx]

Fusion discord is filled with schmucks that believe Aimgod is the best fs in apac and FiXa is top 3

[next mesa]

Forgoodking

U are a nobody

🤫🤫🤫

[fathom igloo]

Facts

[willow tartan]

everyone here is a nobody

[fathom igloo]

He's a spoiled little kid

[balmy wolf]

^

[next mesa]

mister pokemonpat

i respect

[remote scroll]

I am somebody. Sorry!

[next mesa]

u trying to support

[north relic]

kenobi isnt

[next mesa]

however its a bit unsettling

everytime i mention mister forgoodking's name

you come in like 2 seconds

its like you have a radar

[hot onyx]

Agree, he has a podcast

[willow tartan]

he is austzealander

[cunning patrol]

Church is a bitch

[fathom igloo]

Church is fun

[next mesa]

haha

[cunning patrol]

You’d fit right in!

[next mesa]

that was a

#owned

[earnest leaf]

My takes are infinitely better than any bottom feeder in any of those servers

[fathom igloo]

Honestly they aren't all cracked up to be imho

[willow tartan]

magical words

[willow tartan]

0 x infinity = 0

[next mesa]

flameknight

has an okay take

once in a blue moon

credit where credit's due 🙏

[frosty patrol]

neither are sans and I as cohosts of his podcast, obviously

now have we been in more than 2 livestreams? nah

[fathom igloo]

Bold prediction time van will drop everyone in the off season

[willow tartan]

It's always take this take that but never give. What the fuck, can't we all just get along for once?!!!!