where both teams were very different to this year
#esports-discussion
sullen berry
viscid pecan
old time
devout path
His former performances are more than enough of a valid reason to put him top 5
willow drum
cope
devout path
Top 3
sullen berry
the past is the past, buddy
devout path
Actually
sullen berry
If we're talking 2020 then charge is the best team in APAC, Shanghai choked
willow drum
?
sullen berry
but Eileen still GOATed on genji
keen abyss
your main support rankings are flawed until xerneas actually gets playtime
devout path
Hard disagree
keen abyss
- xerneas mental is a debuff
devout path
That’s an arguable case
viscid pecan
toronto is kinda bad
devout path
I personally think
viscid pecan
i mean their dps is not that good in my opinion
sullen berry
what makes them not good, I need to know
devout path
Xerneas splitting playtime with nisha affected the mental
viscid pecan
dps is not that accurate
hollow prawn
I think bejing is kinda bad
viscid pecan
i mean something is missing
hollow prawn
They need better chemestry
viscid pecan
in toronto
devout path
I think being solo main support will make him have a better mental
sullen berry
I think bejing is kinda bad
Zimbabwe team who play doomfist only are high tier
devout path
No
keen abyss
and xerneas is 100% speculation and 2021 results
devout path
Fastro is proven on brig and lucio
devout path
And historically is a much worse mercy than xerneas
viscid pecan
but the doom player is still not good at all in my opinion, he isn't good when he has to
keen abyss
m*rcy isn’t relevant and shouldn’t be taken into account until the hero becomes relevant
in the slightest
devout path
Terrible take
sullen berry
What do you guts think about the economical state of overwatch rn
if it was a country, then OWL franchises are in more debt than most South African countries
devout path
Hard disagree
viscid pecan
mercy is a un-dominant player, which makes her very unimportant and then terrible hero
hollow prawn
yea
viscid pecan
yea
devout path
Again that’s not relevant
hollow prawn
rein is good cuz he is a alpha male
keen abyss
neither is m*rcy
hollow prawn
mercy is very beta
viscid pecan
m'ercy?
devout path
Meta shouldn’t play a role on how good a player is that doesn’t make sense
keen abyss
and she will likely not be relevant until a rework comes her way
true hound
viscid pecan
@keen abyss
devout path
Meta shouldn’t play a role on anything except like current team standings
viscid pecan
why
sullen berry
I don't think you enjoy reading, so here's footage of Xerneas (was Yveltal on Chengdu's roster)
sullen berry
we found him @true hound
devout path
https://i.ytimg.com/an_webp/ClAeBnSehX0/mqdefault_6s.webp?du=3000&sqp=CMWm75YG&r...
Either this is not loading or it’s a bait
sullen berry
Either this is not loading or it’s a bait
it was both
so i sent the youtube link instead of a link to a screenshot
devout path
Oh
sullen berry
*****
we were literally talking about you just the other day (Edit: and by the other day I meant, three months ago)
north relic
His former performances are more than enough of a valid reason to put him top 5
this is just wrong
guys ans fucked before he is still top 5 rn
keen abyss
I still think funnyastro provides more as an individual than xerneas will
sullen berry
funnyastro has a proven comms record
Yveltal gameplay just looks like better mechanics overall
devout path
guys ans fucked before he is still top 5 rn
Ans didn’t play since s3
sullen berry
it was innovative at the time
north relic
Ans didn’t play since s3
he also played s4
keen abyss
if we were still in OW1 I would accept xerneas placement
north relic
(xerneas also played s4)
sullen berry
but lately it's only as good as mercy or lucio themselves are good
devout path
That’s different than playing very well last season
devout path
Xerneas brig is solid
sullen berry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClAeBnSehX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT1gh4AuykQ better one @viscid pecan
devout path
I don’t think ow2 has affected main supports that heavily
keen abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT1gh4AuykQ better one <@426031432293679135>
niandra better
they gap xerneas easily
sullen berry
but they have sure looked deadly, go look around for some POV footage of FunnyAstro or Landon
devout path
I miss xerneas I’m so excited to see them back
keen abyss
get them signed as m*rcy specialist for glads 🔥
I think funnyastro vs spark on ilios
is the single best showing of lucio mechanics I have seen in OWL
could absolutely be recency bias
but he was insane
balmy wolf
I think it was amazing
frosty patrol
@sullen berry can you give thoughts on my top 5 per role list
mt: smurf, reiner, muze, someone, hadi
ot: hanbin, coluge, void, bernar, hawk (rare offtank drought year after coluge)
hs: lip, shy, fits, kai, happy
fdps: kevster, proper, pelican, alphayi, zest (honorable mention: leave if not in hitscan jail)
ms: ch0r0ng, vindaim, xerneas, funnyastro, chiyo
fs: shu, finn, fielder, vigilante, ultraviolet
north relic
That’s different than playing very well last season
ans played very well s3 came mid season s4 and was mid
balmy wolf
But I don't know enough about Lucio performances to say if it's no.1
keen abyss
mt: smurf, reiner, muze, someone, hadi
ot: hanbin, coluge, void, bernar, hawk (r...
bro keeps putting a player
that has literally played 0 minutes of ow2 on stage
in the top 3
frosty patrol
bro keeps putting a player
it’s a proven fact that xerneas has played ow2 in contenders sir
sullen berry
mt: smurf, reiner, muze, someone, hadi
ot: hanbin, coluge, void, bernar, hawk (r...
certainly you need to converge tanks into a single top 10 list instead of split top 5
keen abyss
that’s like putting speedily above alphayi
sullen berry
they play differently but that doesn't hide the fact they get little playtime or are central to their playstyle over MT
shhh don't tell him that
I want my stonks to skyrocket
frosty patrol
that’s like putting speedily above alphayi
speedily has not played ow2 in contenders
keen abyss
still doesn’t feel right
having him as anything but an honorable mention
before he’s played his first ow2l match
frosty patrol
top 10 tanks: smurf, reiner, hanbin, coluge, muze, someone, hadi, void, ga9a, bernar
keen abyss
take the belosrea pill 
willow drum
void got gapped yesterday
frosty patrol
imo i think coluge > void
It’s almost like I have coluge over void
frosty patrol
yes
sullen berry
before he’s played his first ow2l match
Contenders has already seen playtime for Junkerqueen patch
keen abyss
I will maybe watch tomorrow
sullen berry
and have been host to two chinese academy teams
sullen berry
nobody expects you to be awake for them
keen abyss
watched a little bit of eu
sullen berry
I remember when people ruined their sleep schedules on purpose just to watch Ryujehong fuck on the Ana
or for Team Envy to dominate Korea
keen abyss
I am only a slightly sweaty owl nerd I only catch matches live
frosty patrol
I must confess I have not watched much chinese contenders this year
in favor of a healthy sleep schedule
sullen berry
I am only a slightly sweaty owl nerd I only catch matches live
That's only fair, we got lives to live. OWL esports scene is not that hardcore anymore
I took up annual leave for this
and i don't regret it one bit
being up at 2am for encores when I can't watch it during the day is unbelievably inconvenient
normally APAC games start at 4 hours earlier than encore
@frosty patrolbefore I answer how you've ranked your top 5/10 per role, whose the hottest dps from Contenders NA right now that's not in OWL?
willow drum
hottest?
frosty patrol
<@935697457675923486>before I answer how you've ranked your top 5/10 per role, w...
you mean best?
sullen berry
do you really think mike will actually read that and think "this player is hot rn" or "biggest prospect"
frosty patrol
Idk man, ed says some really weird stuff
I had a conversation with memeicus about the driving socioeconomic factors behind disparities in suicide rate the other day
sullen berry
doesn't matter, i get a response when the server is this dead
north relic
where's your liquipedia page
im keeping my contenders identity a secret
frosty patrol
I've got a question for you
balmy wolf
I am only a slightly sweaty owl nerd I only catch matches live
nerd
frosty patrol
best player left in chinese contenders
north relic
also me
frosty patrol
it has to be like xray kaneki or kyo right
sullen berry
not chinese, that makes you second foreigner to play in CN Contenders
frosty patrol
maybe the goat n1ghtg0d
sullen berry
maybe the goat n1ghtg0d
what would it take to retire jinmu and sign n1ghtg0d
sullen berry
they're native to the region in the same way Koreans are in Pacific
or New Zealanders are to Australia
frosty patrol
and he'd be the 2nd western player and 3rd if you count the fact that sixfeet lives in Canada
sullen berry
I blame Lucky Future Zenith that I cannot call the koreans competing in CN Contenders trash foreigners
koreans are like adopted brothers to Chinese fans, have you seen Erster speak chinese?
viscid pecan
lets be honest guys
if you had to pick out a team from OW league
what team would it be
sullen berry
if you had to pick out a team from OW league
to keep or to remove?
viscid pecan
remove
frosty patrol
relegate titans eternal nyxl and justice
viscid pecan
if you could remove a team
frosty patrol
guangzhou do not deserve relegation for they are now GOATs of the league
viscid pecan
are you good at OW guys
sullen berry
I'd also remove Paris Eternal, for organizational reasons and performance relative to the league
sullen berry
are you good at OW guys
I'm Top 500 on Wrecking Ball in my region
willow drum
someone made a reddit post explaning why removing justice solves a lot of other teams player holes
viscid pecan
I'm Top 500 on Wrecking Ball in my region
good
willow drum
so get justice out
sullen berry
you'd be surprised how being articulate and not giving a shit about rank level can make you a great caster
viscid pecan
w
north relic
im high sr (2500+)
sullen berry
there are at least 3 generations of casters: Before OWL, Early OWL, and Post-COVID casters
though to be clear, Post-COVID are the ones who have been brought up from Contenders, arguably the most comfrotable casting OWL and the only true Overwatch casters who've done it for years leading up to OW2
balmy wolf
im high sr (2500+)
same
north relic
i already know my sr
name every exact number then
balmy wolf
a long tie ago
balmy wolf
start the game
join then
balmy wolf
no youre not
north relic
i was
keen abyss
though to be clear, Post-COVID are the ones who have been brought up from Conten...
and unfortunately lemonkiwi is among them
next mesa
new pfp
split flume
candid radish
and unfortunately lemonkiwi is among them
She isn’t that bad
tropic herald
Once again proof that lip is the goat
split flume
real
willow drum
Also counting the total amount of final blows again
I think Kilo had more FB than Lip that map
Despite Lip's flashy plays
Tbh Lip has no team
no backeup
fiery hill
@willow tartan 🤔
fiery hill
lmao
i think Lip was better than Kai today
but i guess they like giving POTG to the winners
willow drum
i think Lip was better than Kai today
Lip won 8 duels vs Kai's 2 I think
IT IS INSANE
HOW LIP DOES NT GET POTM
FOR CARRYING SHITTERS
candid radish
Kai british
candid radish
Easy win for Kai
fiery hill
and unfortunately lemonkiwi is among them
yeah but she makes the chat go Unga Unga
she's in cosplay right now or something
DVA's highschool skin?
fiery hill
london spitfire best team
balmy wolf
L take
fiery hill
Spitfire only lost because Backbone and Boneback cant play at the same time (They dont like each other)
balmy wolf
did u pred against atlanta again
balmy wolf
will u ever learn your lesson
willow drum
no but whenever i predicted for shock
they lose
like when i pred them against ATL in KC they lost
and i pred them in 2021 to beat glads in CC elim
they lose
i learn my lesson
balmy wolf
i think you should pred shock in finals then
willow drum
i doubt the proper
willow drum
i think you should pred shock in finals then
? no
balmy wolf
but then atlanta can win
willow drum
atlanta is not getting it past glads
balmy wolf
mhm
willow drum
willow drum
you're dumb
balmy wolf
yes
willow drum
fraudiators took shock to map 5
balmy wolf
no
willow drum
in qualifiers
willow drum
dumbass
willow drum
instead of getting 4th place
for the 72th time in a row
maybe be a relevant team
holy shit
balmy wolf
dont get eliminated by atlanta challenge
willow drum
APAC failed that one
lost thicket
atlanta gonna win over glads in a 3-1 manner or get their shit stomped
no other way
willow drum
dont get eliminated by atlanta challenge
the only fukcing reason this happened
was because of the fact that
glads and shock just boomed them
for you
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
sounds like a whole lot of excuses
lost thicket
shock has yet to be tested
willow drum
glads weakened houston
lost thicket
smh beating up botton na then botton apac
balmy wolf
nobody weakened atlanta 
willow drum
wait....
shock boomed glads last game
atlanta just cleans up the top of na's scraps
balmy wolf
uh oh
lost thicket
shock SHOULD have 3-0ed Glads
3-1 imo
balmy wolf
gator is a benchwarmer
willow drum
if they dont choke capture percent
willow drum
i cant wait for reiner
balmy wolf
until orisa meta
balmy wolf
this season
willow drum
this year
balmy wolf
or in general
willow drum
season
balmy wolf
not this season
willow drum
LMAO L BOZO
lost thicket
kev needs a better jou
lost thicket
n hanzo if ans is to work on the team
balmy wolf
no
lost thicket
that is ans become more flexible
lost thicket
yeah yeah but what I am trying to say is kev/ans doesn't work here
willow drum
yeah yeah but what I am trying to say is kev/ans doesn't work here
kev/ans doesnt work because ans is dogshit
balmy wolf
kev/pati works fine
balmy wolf
pati is a solid sojourn
lost thicket
cause like, ans can only play widow/ashe at high levels, pati does jou n hanzo pretty good but kev doesn't
balmy wolf
ans cannot play widow and ashe at high lvl
lost thicket
if you were gonna try kev ans then kev needs jou hanzo up
balmy wolf
yeah but you would never do that
willow drum
Also btw Kevster SJ lost to Proper SJ
so not ashamed of him
Proper SJ is insanely cracked
lost thicket
Also btw Kevster SJ lost to Proper SJ
most do lmao
willow drum
most do lmao
FletASSS
lost thicket
yeah but you would never do that
yeah but it's just the thing I noted
balmy wolf
imo
willow drum
Okay Kevster didn't look good because Ans didn't give him a lot of space to work with
do you understand?
lost thicket
ans cannot play widow and ashe at high lvl
he can, his widows still good but he did get gapped a bit by kilo he was not getting owned all the time
willow drum
Ans never pressured out Kilo enough so Kevster can't take angles or peak
balmy wolf
he can, his widows still good but he did get gapped a bit by kilo he was not get...
it was litterally 5-0
he got shitstomped
willow drum
he can, his widows still good but he did get gapped a bit by kilo he was not get...
it was 5-0
he got clapped
it was not a "little bit"
cunning patrol
Ans is awful
lost thicket
it was litterally 5-0
No it wasn't? I swear ans killed kilo
cunning patrol
But it is not his fault
willow drum
Ans is dog bro
lost thicket
a few times
balmy wolf
no
lost thicket
wait let me check lmao
willow drum
i watched that game 2 times
cunning patrol
It is sad
lost thicket
u can look at the stats
send link for stats
willow drum
very impressive imho
cunning patrol
Lip widow is held back by his abnormally high sens for a HS player
willow drum
lip widow still shits on ans
balmy wolf
i dont pay attention to him too much
willow drum
ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
balmy wolf
ye
cunning patrol
Probably
balmy wolf
any team in the top 6 widow beats him imo
cunning patrol
Idk ans literally is just slowly gonna get worse
willow drum
i dont get why teams take shock to circut royale
cunning patrol
Lol
willow drum
like shock is literally perfect for that map
cunning patrol
Like what can he do
willow drum
there is no team better than shock on circut royale
balmy wolf
like shock is literally perfect for that map
b- b- but space!
willow drum
b- b- but space!
shut up ans is atrocious
balmy wolf
but not dominant
cunning patrol
Ans being bad is not all his fault
balmy wolf
well it was also gapped by coluge on sig
cunning patrol
Ans was never gonna be good
balmy wolf
wasnt hard histcan kinda ass tho
cunning patrol
In this game
balmy wolf
ans better start hitting the practice range
willow drum
wasnt hard histcan kinda ass tho
some maps it was ass yea
balmy wolf
i dont think subbing a player in for a widow otp like that is bad
static pond
So does Vancouver like suck worse without shockwave?
balmy wolf
they just need to be good
balmy wolf
So does Vancouver like suck worse without shockwave?
ye
willow drum
jazzy do u have shock winning
acoustic flint
what the fuck is happening with Shanghai and Seoul recently
willow drum
what the fuck is happening with Shanghai and Seoul recently
shanghai's players are bad
seoul's coaching is bad
very simple
balmy wolf
what the fuck is happening with Shanghai and Seoul recently
seoul crashed and shanghai has fletass
acoustic flint
have they won a single game recently
willow drum
have they won a single game recently
yes
balmy wolf
ye
willow drum
shanghai against dallas
lost thicket
istg Ans killed kilo one time in CR I must have been miss remembering something damn
willow drum
seoul not so much
willow drum
dallas is ass lmao
lost thicket
what the fuck is happening with Shanghai and Seoul recently
Dynasty coach
willow drum
no one is surprised
balmy wolf
dallas KC record carried to 4th seed so hard
willow drum
correction*
cunning patrol
Tobi is a bitch for benching fits and not profit
willow drum
lip is very good
balmy wolf
fletass isnt good
willow drum
and rest are awful
static pond
I think dragons need a tracer specialist
willow drum
they do not
cunning patrol
Shock should win this tournament
willow drum
need a tracer specialist
balmy wolf
that would mean playing fletass
cunning patrol
If they do proper is mvp front runner
willow drum
Shock should win this tournament
4-2 glads?
static pond
Fleta tracer ist good imo
balmy wolf
i think 4-2
cunning patrol
Idk
willow drum
lip tracer
willow drum
cope
balmy wolf
Fleta tracer ist good imo
it is so ass
cunning patrol
And then got stomped by Shock lmfao
willow drum
Fleta tracer ist good imo
Just replace him lmao
static pond
Lip tracer can't play tracer
balmy wolf
he got gapped my venom unironically
willow drum
HUH
balmy wolf
like thats kinda sad
willow drum
lip tracer is goated
static pond
Because they need him on hitscan
willow drum
not his problem
its moons problem
should have planned out his team better
L bozo
cunning patrol
Should resign develop
static pond
Whoru also has a decent tracer
willow drum
Whoru also has a decent tracer
??
balmy wolf
idk
cunning patrol
His tracer was awful when he played it
balmy wolf
if fletass gets playtime over him
static pond
He played tracer a bit when he had to flex
balmy wolf
that says something about his tracer
static pond
I wonder if fleta can still play hit scan
willow drum
okay here is how shanghai realistically cover
balmy wolf
get a new dps 
willow drum
they do a roster rebuild
balmy wolf
i think their support line is okay
static pond
No a roster rebuild?
static pond
Void and fate are still good imo
balmy wolf
and i think they need to figure out what they are doing with void and fate
they have been like
tropic herald
Step 1: Shanghai sign TopDragon
balmy wolf
definition of mid recently
tropic herald
Step 2: Shanghai win the league
cunning patrol
Shanghai don’t got that dawg in them anymore
Only lip does
The rest have no passion you can tell
tropic herald
tiny pollen
They need coaches
cunning patrol
Lip is the most hardworking player by a mile on that team I can already tell
willow drum
the canine is missing from coach moon
tiny pollen
They only have moon
static pond
Moon did mention that the players got lazy
static pond
They had a workout that they haven't use as much anymore
willow drum
Sign HeeSang
tropic herald
I mean if I won last season that hard
willow drum
massive upgrade
static pond
This i agree
tropic herald
I would be playing minecraft all off season
static pond
Keep fleta for promotion
cunning patrol
I would be playing minecraft all off season
That’s why it is so hard to stay at the top
willow drum
he wont be good in 5v5
cunning patrol
It gets endless
static pond
Good way to hype up your team tho
willow drum
real
cunning patrol
Fleta should retire before he tarnished his legacy forever
static pond
Yes
willow drum
Fleta should retire before he tarnished his legacy forever
agree
static pond
I agree
tropic herald
I don’t even think Fleta is bad he just is not as good
willow drum
he should retire before OWL rightfully takes away his MVP
willow drum
I don’t even think Fleta is bad he just is not as good
he is nowhere near bad
its just when going against monsters like proper kevster etc etc
he will lose
99 out of the 100 times
willow drum
?
static pond
How was glads vs shock?
twilit oriole
How was glads vs shock?
Titans won
sullen berry
Fleta should retire before he tarnished his legacy forever
go out the same way dafran did, on a high note
worthy lynx
forest token
I did not watch the shd game so maybe atl has stopped being as goofy but also glads hopefully don't throw two games in a row so glads should win
stuck radish
atl wasnt that great in the shanghai game
kai was getting gapped by lip and the reason they won was because most of shanghai did air and didnt have teamwork
lost thicket
what was the fs closest to viol2t in 2020 that wasn't alarm
closest as in played similar and was as good
north relic
closest as in played similar and was as good
Shu
balmy wolf
viol2t was insane in s3
north relic
And the goat gangnamjin
lost thicket
ok
I was gonna make a shock 2020 v shock 2022 but was thinking who'd replace viol2t on 2020 one
lost thicket
viol2t was insane in s3
everyone on shock was
north relic
everyone on shock was
Not taiyo
frosty patrol
or architect
willow drum
? wdym
devout path
both of these teams suck
devout path
fpx and optic?
willow drum
OH
north relic
everyone that was playing
Wow the team that won the championship had insane starters?
tropic herald
why would i
lost thicket
Wow the team that won the championship had insane starters?
And insane backups?
north relic
And insane backups?
No they had architect taiyo
lost thicket
shock had a great A team and B team
tropic herald
@devout path thoughts on Fnatic and Optic exiting before finals?
lost thicket
A team was Striker ANS Smurf ChoiHyoBin moth Viol2t B team was Rascal Ta1yo super ChoiHyoBin moth Twilight
and Team B is just the subs normally
still very elite
and anyways
cunning patrol
Optic are really gonna pull off the greatest reverse sweep in history 😭😭😭
lost thicket
who would win
ANS Widowmaker Striker Tracer/Kilo Ashe Proper Tracer
Smurf Monkey ChoiHyoBin Sigma/Mikeyy Ball Coluge Sigma
Shu Bap Twilight Zen/Viol2t Zen FiNN Ana
devout path
Optic are really gonna pull off the greatest reverse sweep in history 😭😭😭
so true
mental of optic is goated
willow drum
who would win
ANS Widowmaker Striker Tracer/Kilo Ashe Proper Tracer
Smurf Monke...
2nd side win
if it was Choi Sig Ans Widow Striker Tracer Shu Bap Twilight Zen vs Coluge Sig Kilo Ashe/Widdow Proper Tracer Viol2t Bap FiNN Zen
2nd team easily
next mesa
Optic are really gonna pull off the greatest reverse sweep in history 😭😭😭
whats happening
i stopped after halftime of icebox
cunning patrol
Bind looks winnable
next mesa
did fpx win second map
next mesa
thats good
optic is good at bind
only counter is
yoruboy
marved is so good
read ardiis like a book
cunning patrol
Like
devout path
whats shaos clutch winrate
cunning patrol
What the fuck are they doing
next mesa
💀 FNS
cunning patrol
So dumb
next mesa
what a bruh momentum
cunning patrol
They didn’t even need to TP either
devout path
free channel points
next mesa
watching tarik?
cunning patrol
whats shaos clutch winrate
Shao is allah
devout path
watching tarik?
nomegalul
devout path
why would i watch someone who doesnt watch the game
hot onyx
not with a gun to my head
devout path
i watch thinkingmansvalo
hot onyx
I was an uninformed Faith hater and Superich redemption arc believer, my opinion has since changed
next mesa
i waz gonna flame him if he didnt save
devout path
i bet 3k channel points on optic
next mesa
I was an uninformed Faith hater and Superich redemption arc believer, my opinion...
imo superich is not performing because he is depressed (seperated from his boyfriend diya)
cunning patrol
Optic should be up 10-0 rn
north relic
not with a gun to my head
I think you should never slander belosrea again
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I think you should never slander belosrea again
I think Belosrea is one of the best balls mechanically and equally one of the worst brainwise
next mesa
who is that
hot onyx
who the fuck said that
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imo aimgod is not even better than
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Shit
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Izayaki Creative JJoNak (with or without retirement) Irony Molly MMonk and Farway1987 are all much better
hot onyx
Literally worst apac FS
Bebe
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He diffs bebe
cunning patrol
He was talkin bout the god
hot onyx
He was talkin bout the god
lose credibility in one sentence challenge
devout path
yayster missing 2 shots in a row
3*
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Mmonk is the best
next mesa
i agree
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Irony and farway are 2nd and 3rd
next mesa
izayaki having a little bit of a troll year
hot onyx
who is that kid
remember when Fusion got full held by Valiant in 2021 and some guy originated a copypasta on twitter?
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Mmonk is the best
Damn did FS fall off
cunning patrol
Creative might be better than iza actually
cunning patrol
That was so funny
hot onyx
but maybe now that Belosrea is showing to possess mild competence the focus should be turned to new blame such as the support line
next mesa
Creative might be better than iza actually
mmm
i disagree
he is falling off on his 1 trick
cunning patrol
In apac yes
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<@652901872692101126> Carpe MN3 ZEST Clestyn Belosrea Faith Vigilante
Is fusion somehow was the farthest apac team
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Idk why you’d keep carpe
hot onyx
double hs + marketability
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He’s undoubtedly far behind after mn3 has presumably taken all the scrim time
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He’s undoubtedly far behind after mn3 has presumably taken all the scrim time
It’s very sad
That as soon as you are on the bench
You have no chance
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Yeah it’s the worst for dps players too
Mn3 probably underperformed at the start of the season because of it
balmy wolf
I like the roster much more when they don't play carpe
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It is better but I don’t like it more
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lose credibility in one sentence challenge
belosrea is the best MT in apac
(challenge completed btw)
cunning patrol
Smurf is da goat
balmy wolf
Is Gaga better
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Optics fracture
balmy wolf
I haven't seen him in a while
hot onyx
belosrea is the best MT in apac
objectively untrue as Fate and Smurf still play
next mesa
drx and prx
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Ga9a is better than belosrea
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objectively untrue as Fate and Smurf still play
i am joking lol
hot onyx
plus GA9A
cunning patrol
Idk about fate
hot onyx
and Rio
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he is better mechanically and brainwise
devout path
They just wasted a flash
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he is better mechanically and brainwise
maybe but
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idk i just
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dont like fates play
hot onyx
Fate does not go on 5 minute long adventures on Dorado and Eichenwalde
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this season
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Fate does not go on 5 minute long adventures on Dorado and Eichenwalde
fate also got swept by shock
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and he does not feed his guts out
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🥱
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and he does not feed his guts out
fate also does nothing
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Belosrea would get swept by Shock if he made it far enough
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Philly would take a map
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doubt that
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sans who do u have winning
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weirdchamp
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I have reign winning
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Reign are fraudulent shitters
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when dps is equal and tanks and supports gap in every way
i think that shock dps is > fusion dps
i'm ngl
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Reign are fraudulent shitters
They are the best
Lower bracket team
To ever do it
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at the very least proper kilo > mn3 zest
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Lower bracket team
It’s so dumb
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Like how do they do it
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How they lose to London
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at the very least proper kilo > mn3 zest
=
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This is so sad
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And then just shit on every other team
willow drum
surely reign will lose to glads!!!
hot onyx
Proper and Kilo have better team mates
devout path
Optic actually win this now
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I think reign are trying to bait us
hot onyx
than MN3 and ZEST
next mesa
jimzo is there
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Proper and Kilo have better team mates
proper > zest
kilo > mn3 while he is not being jesus
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I think reign are trying to bait us
??
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proper > zest
kilo > mn3 while he is not being jesus
Proper = zest
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Optic have a very good chance to reverse sweep now
hot onyx
Proper = zest
actually true
next mesa
Optic have a very good chance to reverse sweep now
but their fracture is.. not that good
hot onyx
proper > zest
kilo > mn3 while he is not being jesus
MN3 would be jesus every match with FiNN and Coluge
devout path
Doesn’t matter
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Proper = zest
you are wrong again lsd
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you are wrong again lsd
Zest gaps on heroes like mei
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Zest gaps on heroes like mei
what heroes does zest gap on lol
devout path
Fpx is gonna get mental diffed
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besides mei pharah
next mesa
i disagree
cunning patrol
MN3 would be jesus every match with FiNN and Coluge
Nah
next mesa
an alpha player like shao
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what heroes does zest gap on lol
Bastion
devout path
Shao is the only person who is performing
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Mnjesus is something independent of teammates
willow drum
they are both good at pounding agreed
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he's also better on the tracer
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much better on the tracer
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tbh i dont think zest is anywhere close to proper on tracer
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Shock have goats
twin bloom
Fleta is
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Proper is what casuals think
Proper is what casuals think their diamond Smurfs are
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shock have multiple goats
hot onyx
tbh i dont think zest is anywhere close to proper on tracer
I think Proper tracer > but ZEST echo >
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between proper echo and zest echo
twin bloom
Ngl
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i would disagree
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the gap is not big on either
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The nom
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Fletass
hot onyx
what impressive player did he diff
Profit Fleta AlphaYi
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fleta is not impressive
twin bloom
at any point in his career
Iced
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alphayi threw
twin bloom
Imo
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profit weak tracer mechanics
cunning patrol
He did
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he did
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Disagree
north relic
genji just an ass hero
hot onyx
but gaps Profit and goes equal with Kevin
ZEST is just built different
like kryptonite
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Against zest
He just has the pressure of a god
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alphayi was shuddering against zests presence
devout path
Keep coping
willow drum
alphayi is a fraud
cunning patrol
Keep coping
Spark knocked out by a team u put bottom 5
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only reason spark made it so far is because shy did a lip
cunning patrol
Sad!
devout path
Spark knocked out by a team u put bottom 5
?
twin bloom
Ok i honestly just think glads played like ass against spark and spark played the best game of their careers
Lol
devout path
I will just keep putting 3k channel points cuz the ratio is too large
cunning patrol
Shock will beat glads
twin bloom
Agree
devout path
Ok nvm
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Who imo should have lost to midhem if not for MN3s deadlift
Random hypotheticals imo
devout path
Why is fracture 50/50
north relic
Reign are winning the tourney
twin bloom
No atl will take a map
devout path
Crashies had a 4.4kda
twin bloom
Unlike
devout path
Wtf
twin bloom
Last year
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Disagree