#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 646

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:31 AM

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I'd accept the name retcon if we could get those lines back

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:32 AM

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reaper needs some spanish lines

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:32 AM

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man i wish they would canonize it though

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like they could mention that people used to know him as mccree and just keep that for flashbacks

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make it part of the lore

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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I imagine (in-universe) there were theories and tabloids that constantly claimed Jack and Gabe were in a relationship

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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clear kestrel reaper needs some spanish lines

I keep forgetting if he's Spanish, Mexican or Latino

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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he's Mexican-American

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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right

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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peak escarp I imagine (in-universe) there were theories and tabloids that constantly claimed...

eeeehhhh

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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imagine blackwatch if moira wasn’t in the team and instead some other medic

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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the thing that gets me is that the name change is supposed to be part of the lore but they don’t acknowledge it, everyone in ow2 just knows to call him cole cassidy now

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Are there real-life tabloids talking about the personal lives of like
army generals

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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well that's the thing

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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i hope they explain the name change in the actual story

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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OW are basically celebrities lol

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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yeah

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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they're more than just a military

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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they had a cartoon and a movie made about them

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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iron plume Are there real-life tabloids talking about the personal lives of like army gener...

we don’t have anything like overwatch in the real world though

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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they were public figures

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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these guys are world famous heroes

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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exactly

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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like the avengers

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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there's plenty of public figures that aren't really "celebrities"

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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and tabloids love to make up things about public figures

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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idk

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:34 AM

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they’re a global defense unit

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and they’re also part of pop culture

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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well, we don't know who the OW media was about

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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they were probably on lunch boxes and shit

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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I don't think they were too keen on glamorizing Blackwatch

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though Gabe was also in the original strike team

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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probably about the Crisis-era organization

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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iron plume well, we don't know who the OW media was about

orisa literally mentions to sojourn that sojourn was efi’s favorite in the cartoon

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:35 AM

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or golden age, since Sojourn is in the cartoon

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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fringe thistle orisa literally mentions to sojourn that sojourn was efi’s favorite in the carto...

yes

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That's just one of the people we do know

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who is neither Jack or Gabe

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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Soldier has a line about the actor chosen to play him in the movie being a terrible choice

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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who was the more active/experienced member during the crisis though, reyes or morrison

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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as he would

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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i imagine the world didn’t even know BW existed until the rialto incident

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:36 AM

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that'd be the idea

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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sharp trench who was the more active/experienced member during the crisis though, reyes or mo...

morrison that’s why he became strike commander

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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sharp trench who was the more active/experienced member during the crisis though, reyes or mo...

Reyes was appointed as the leader of the original strike team

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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gabriel was the original leader but jack proved to be a better fit

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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but Morrison showed better leadership, so he was made Strike Commander post-crisis

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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yeah

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Reyes was happy to not have the burden of leadership and all the red tape that went along with it

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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that’s not reflected in their skins btw, we don’t actually have any skins from the crisis era except crusader reinhardt

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Blackwatch was his way of doing things the way he wanted

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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why was OW forbidden from interfering with the null sector uprising actually?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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which is kind of a shame

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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fringe thistle that’s not reflected in their skins btw, we don’t actually have any skins from t...

Sniper Ana

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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clear kestrel why was OW forbidden from interfering with the null sector uprising actually?

collateral damage?

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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fringe thistle that’s not reflected in their skins btw, we don’t actually have any skins from t...

we also have the SEP reyes skin

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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peak escarp Sniper Ana

oh yeah true i forgor

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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and Soldier 24, yeah

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:38 AM

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clear kestrel we also have the SEP reyes skin

that was before the crisis when he was still in the us military i thought

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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the SEP was made for the crisis

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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OH

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oh yeah

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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during the crisis it was made i think

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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so then night ops 76 too then right

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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is night ops 76 a canon skin?
I thought it was just a nam reference

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:40 AM

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it always bugged me how night ops 76 was supposed to be a young jack in the army but it’s his old model with white hair and wrinkles

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it might not be canon but it’s supposed to represent his army days

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at least that’s what the description says

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:40 AM

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clear kestrel is night ops 76 a canon skin? I thought it was just a nam reference

from Uprising

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:40 AM

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but him having grey hair on that skin bugs me

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:40 AM

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the skin has grey hair, but is otherwise the same

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:40 AM

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ok yeah I see it

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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see exactly idk how they fumbled it

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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peak escarp from Uprising

still using an iron sight in 2050-something lul

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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I like the young Jack skins

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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why did they use his soldier 76 head and not his strike commander head

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Overwatch never had any activity in Russia during the omnic crisis right

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Not to any significance at least

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:41 AM

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no russia had their own pdf

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:42 AM

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nor australia either right?
or at least, just the out back

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:42 AM

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same with korea

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:42 AM

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what about germany?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:42 AM

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korea had their own thing going on

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germany had the crusaders

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:42 AM

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Korea had their own units but apparently worked with OW

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Crusaders were pre-overwatch

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Just about everyone did their own thing before OW formed

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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I mean every country had their own response to the crisis but I think OW still helped out

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Germany had the Crusaders, US with the Supersoldier program, Canada with cybernetics

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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during the crisis there were a lot of pdfs that were dissolved once ow finally took hold

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ow was not fully integrated for a while

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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oh yeah are the crusaders even around anymore?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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actually good question

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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They didn't get dissolved necessarily
just working alongside/in support

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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you’d think not

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but idk

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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I imagine they werent completely disbanded
just kept on standby

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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re: Australia, we don't know about what they did or how they fared in the Crisis itself

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the Outback was given to omnics after the crisis

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which the locals weren't fond of

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:44 AM

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we’ve never seen another crusader after balderich died

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rein is the only one left that we know of and he’s pretty old

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:44 AM

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russia had big cool ommic wave killing mechs

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:44 AM

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still do

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:45 AM

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if any of the Crusaders survived the crisis, they're likely retired by now

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:45 AM

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yeah volskaya industries was the one making those mechs

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:45 AM

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I wonder how differently things would have gone if Balderich had survived eichenwalde and joined OW like planned

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has anyone made a fic of this premise actually?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:45 AM

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balderich probably would’ve died

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he was already getting old

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reinhardt was in his mid 20’s iirc during Honor and Glory

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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so that'd make him what
in his 40s-50s by the time of OW2 then?

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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Reinhardt is 61

rare charm Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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sorry to interrupt, gf and i are trying to remember but nothing online is helping - how did mercy and torb meet again?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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by the time of Uprising rein already went full grey

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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he was in his mid 30s in the flashbacks of Honor and Glory

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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rare charm sorry to interrupt, gf and i are trying to remember but nothing online is helpin...

overwatch

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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rare charm sorry to interrupt, gf and i are trying to remember but nothing online is helpin...

it's unknown how they met, but they're family friends

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:47 AM

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fringe thistle by the time of Uprising rein already went full grey

balderichs death must have hit him hard then jesus

rare charm Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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no, they knew each other before OW but i thought there was more to it. thanks tho

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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oh wait I forgot

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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it's likely Torbjorn knew her parents, and ended up taking care of her after they died

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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uprising was post crisis

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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mercy was a young medical student who iirc overwatch recruited because she was a genius

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but yeah i think they’re family friends

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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stress of the crisis itself must have greyed him really quick

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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i mean military will do that to ya

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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the crisis was 30 years ago

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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fringe thistle mercy was a young medical student who iirc overwatch recruited because she was a...

Mercy was already a hospital's head when OW recruited her

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but otherwise yea

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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look how fast ana went grey

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:48 AM

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peak escarp the crisis was 30 years ago

yea but he was grey by uprising

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Uprising was 20-ish years after the crisis

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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huh

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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how long ago was uprising to ow1

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10 years?

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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7 years

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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since rein is 60 you said

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and he’s mid 30s in Honor and Glory

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Reinhardt was 54 in Uprising

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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damn he was in overwatch for 20 years????

rare charm Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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fringe thistle look how fast ana went grey

getting shot in the head doesnt help the anti grey effect

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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fringe thistle damn he was in overwatch for 20 years????

so was Cassidy

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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WAIT HUH???

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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and many of the old Overwatch members

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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so how the fuck did she just lose her eye?
was it just a glancing shot essentially?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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oh shit you’re right

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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clear kestrel so how the fuck did she just lose her eye? was it just a glancing shot essential...

who

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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clear kestrel so how the fuck did she just lose her eye? was it just a glancing shot essential...

ana

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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amelie lmao

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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I know but like

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:50 AM

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this photo is from ~20 years ago

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Cassidy and Angela are 17

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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surely that shot should have just gone straight through her

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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widowmaker shot through her scope

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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actually hold on

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there

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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peak escarp this photo is from ~20 years ago

the one on the far right is meant to be soljourn right?

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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yes

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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wait cassidy and angela are the same age???

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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and we don't know the guy on the left

rare charm Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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i thought there was a bigger age gap between mercy and pharah

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:51 AM

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clear kestrel and we don't know the guy on the left

i hope he’s a new hero in the future

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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clear kestrel so how the fuck did she just lose her eye? was it just a glancing shot essential...

Widowmaker's shot hit the scope, shrapnel from the scope hit Ana's cybernetic eye

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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he was seen on talon’s council during Masquerade

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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peak escarp Widowmaker's shot hit the scope, shrapnel from the scope hit Ana's cybernetic ey...

ohhh
that makes more sense

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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jesus fucking christ

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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fringe thistle he was seen on talon’s council during *Masquerade*

we don't know for sure if that's him

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

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at that point i’d wish the shot killed me

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that looks like agony

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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you'd think she'd struggle to make nade throws given the lack of depth perception

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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ana is a trooper for sure

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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doesnt she only have a biotic eye now

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or was she shot in the biotic eye

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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No, it's the biotic one that was shot

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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I was. I had no name to give them, so they called me, ‘Janina
Kowalski,’ your Jane Doe. For months, I sat in that hospital
room in pain and confusion. Dr. Lee told me I was lucky.
Well, as lucky as you can be after having glass and shrapnel
embedded in your skull.” Ana felt the phantom pain of her eye
even as she recounted the experience.```

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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did she actually get a replacement?

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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no her biotic eye was the one shot

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:54 AM

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she never replaced the cybernetic eye

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that's why she wears an eyepatch

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 2:54 AM

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yeah mercy has offered

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:54 AM

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    Ana: You're very kind, but I'm comfortable with who I am now. It's a good reminder.```

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:54 AM

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ana was fucking gorgeous in her younger days tho good lord

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 2:56 AM

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peak escarp

back then reaper still dresses like an edgelord sheeesh

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:57 AM

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yea I think Gabe was always a bit of an ass

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:57 AM

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he's got a style

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:57 AM

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he never liked winston we know that much
not many people seem to at all actually

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jack and gabe aren't fond of him
hammond hates his fucking guts
and Cass couldn't even be bothered calling him by name

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 2:58 AM

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Reaper calls Winston "Monkey"
Cassidy calls Winston "Monkey"
guess we know where he gets it from

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 2:59 AM

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reaper after killing winston: "I never liked you"

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tho with Jack he's just a salty asshat that wants to blame others for OWs downfall

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Soldier after killing cass: "I have you a chance, and you wasted it"

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 3:01 AM

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what’re soldiers kill lines on reaper

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:11 AM

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“someone had to do it”

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gabe killing jack “you look bad, jack”

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how did they even meet winston

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did winston just crashland on gibraltar base

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:14 AM

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we don't know the details

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:14 AM

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i’ve just always found it odd how everyone knows winston and how he became an ow agent

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he was never mentioned in any archives mission

sharp trench Jul 3, 2022, 3:15 AM

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I’d imagine a rocket crashing to Earth from orbit would be a high priority for Overwatch

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:15 AM

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well, storm rising obviously he’s in

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but the other 2

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we know he has to have been in overwatch already by uprising because he’s the one who made tracer’s chronal accelerator

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:25 AM

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Winston came to earth between 13 years ago (Hammond came with him and is 14 years old) and 10 years ago (Mei knew him and she's been frozen for 9 years)

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:26 AM

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only 9?

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thought it was longer

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:26 AM

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nope, just 9 years

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:27 AM

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wait but how does mei know him though

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has she been to hlc

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:27 AM

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she's an Overwatch scientist

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:27 AM

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ohh

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Winston is also an Overwatch scientist

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:28 AM

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for some reason it never clicked until now that mei was actually in overwatch

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i was wondering why it seemed like lena, winston, and angela already knew her in zero hour

worthy rose Jul 3, 2022, 3:34 AM

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i headcannon symetra was dropped several times as a kid

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from a very high place

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:35 AM

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???

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wtf

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speaking of symmetra how does zen know her real name

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:36 AM

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she's a somewhat famous person

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she's one of Vishkar's top architechs

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:37 AM

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https://vxtwitter.com/cleartogether/status/1543347610131410944?s=21&t=yjTKQDfeb25g2E9axzVPUA

vxTwitter

https://t.co/Tr8IjNSBTZ

🏩ClearTogether💙💛🏳️‍🌈 (@ClearTogether)

https://t.co/Tr8IjNSBTZ

▶ Play video

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this implies something personal to me

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:37 AM

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oh

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well

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he did meet her in Stone By Stone

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 AM

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still have yet to read those lol, i really gotta

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 AM

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they're not long

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:38 AM

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arent they a few chapters

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like 5 or 6 chapters

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 AM

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it's 23 pages

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:39 AM

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wait thats IT?

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thats like one chapter

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damn

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:40 AM

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all the short stories are 18-26 pages

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quite short

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and some of those pages are taken up by illustrations

fringe thistle Jul 3, 2022, 3:41 AM

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well thats kinda lame

peak escarp Jul 3, 2022, 3:41 AM

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they may be short but they're pretty good

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Stone by Stone and What You Left Behind are excellent

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 3:46 AM

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zen and symm having a history together is
really cool actually

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ok maybe not a "history" but they do know eachother

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 7:50 AM

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holy shit the zen/rein/genji interaction is randomised

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he doesn't always say "massaged sheep"

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he also says "I collected payments at a laser tag arena"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU9wWZfLp28

grand wedge Jul 3, 2022, 7:54 AM

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I got this one : https://vxtwitter.com/owgwadael/status/1543328939812261895

vxTwitter

Zenyatta likes trolling Rein by saying what he did before the Crisis... I only got this one so far, but I know he says different job titles! Zenyatta : "I was a life guard. At a water park."

Gwadael 💙🏴‍☠️ (@owgwadael)

Zenyatta likes trolling Rein by saying what he did before the Crisis... I only got this one so far, but I know he says different job titles!

Zenyatta : "I was a life guard. At a water park."

▶ Play video

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 7:55 AM

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this guy

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https://vxtwitter.com/owgwadael/status/1543331920045654021
zen boutta smack a bitch

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wait have we always known the name of DV.As mech?

opal nexus Jul 3, 2022, 8:19 AM

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pretty sure

clear kestrel Jul 3, 2022, 8:46 AM

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aww
torb and mercy have an adorable interaction

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"are you ever going to tell me Valkyries airfoil ratio?"
"are you going to tell me Ingrids apple pie recipe?"
"hmph, you drive a hard bargain"
"I'll just ask her myself"

twin spindle Jul 3, 2022, 3:09 PM

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clear kestrel "are you ever going to tell me Valkyries airfoil ratio?" "are you going to tell ...

👌

iron plume Jul 3, 2022, 8:58 PM

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!!shitposting @clear hearth

twilit nacelleBOT Jul 3, 2022, 8:58 PM

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@clear hearth Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose Jul 3, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Lore wise, when Tracer performs a recall.. Does she actually reverse time for everyone? The world? The universe? But for gameplay reasons only herself is reversed.. Or does the device actually just reverse her own little timeline bubble?

opal nexus Jul 3, 2022, 10:39 PM

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sort of in her own little bubble methinks

limpid agate Jul 3, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Yes, her onw little timeline

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You can see it in Alive

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And again in Zero Hour

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Her own timeline is seperate from the rest of the world

rare charm Jul 3, 2022, 10:46 PM

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the device is one winston made for her to actually be able to harness it

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she got the power during a freak accident type situation. after that, she wasnt able to actually control it. it would just blink her into a weird ghost state almost.

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winston made the device so she could control

worthy rose Jul 3, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Yeah, I remember that.. I was just curious if the device actually reverted all time.. Or just her local time bubble

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So then I guess for others it would look like it does during gameplay, time and stuff moves forward.. Except for Tracer if she does a recall

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Sorry, sometimes I just think about dumb things

livid elbow Jul 4, 2022, 12:51 AM

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Question, for Tracer’s blink, since it basically fast forwards her time, would the enhanced movements be a case of velocity or acceleration?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 12:55 AM

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I don't understand physics well enough to know the difference

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 12:59 AM

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I dont think the writers thought that out either

livid elbow Jul 4, 2022, 1:00 AM

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peak escarp I don't understand physics well enough to know the difference

Velocity is basically the change in position with v(m/s) = distance (meters) / time (seconds), while acceleration is the change in velocity with a(m/s^2) = v1 (m/s) - v2 (m/s) / time (seconds)

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:00 AM

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uhh

unique steppe Jul 4, 2022, 1:02 AM

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livid elbow Velocity is basically the change in position with v(m/s) = distance (meters) / t...

I'd say velocity, as it is a change in position she's performing

livid elbow Jul 4, 2022, 1:03 AM

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unique steppe I'd say velocity, as it is a change in position she's performing

Okay, thanks, I sort of had that idea as well.

unique steppe Jul 4, 2022, 1:04 AM

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DoomfistThumbsUp

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:17 AM

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this is probably a dumb question

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but if Blackwatch was a covert ops division

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why did their agents go out on missions with a distinct logo and without hiding their faces?

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when staying undercover was so important

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 AM

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because it's fiction and uniforms are cool

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 AM

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lol okay

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:23 AM

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idk, there isn't a good explanation for it

pale sail Jul 4, 2022, 1:45 AM

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i meann

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probably because they wouldve handled things in a way that wouldnt point towards them

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:49 AM

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yeah I guess Venice was just a massive failure

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 1:49 AM

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oh R76 was just fucking murdered lol
Gabe canonically has a wife
that's
unfortunate

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:51 AM

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it didn't make sense before that confirmation though

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Jack already had a boyfriend

iron plume Jul 4, 2022, 1:51 AM

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yeah it was a pipe dream from the start

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well, Vincent from a long time ago
but still

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 1:52 AM

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I haven't kept up in a while

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 1:52 AM

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You know, reading Hero of Numbani for the first time this week, I’ve noticed something bout Efi and Orisa

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They’re just like Hiro and Baymax from Big Hero 6

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That’s crazy, but I like it

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:54 AM

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most ships have no canonical support

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:54 AM

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was Jack in the relationship with Vincent up until his death? also I remember seeing it but I can't remember where

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:54 AM

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no

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:54 AM

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oh okay

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:54 AM

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Jack and Vincent broke up during the crisis

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because Jack put his job first

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 1:55 AM

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I see ty

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 1:55 AM

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give him.” Jack sighed. “We both knew that I could never
put anything above my duty. Everything I fought for was to
protect people like him… That’s the sacrifice I made.”```

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:03 AM

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wtf never thought we’d get a wholesome moment from akande

https://vxtwitter.com/granottaa/status/1543344534649700355?s=21&t=81dQjokCNIrZz1IPFl-dQg

vxTwitter

New Ashe and Doom interaction recorded by @Dreifal. Lmk if someone already posted it:)

granoTa |-/ (@granottaa)

New Ashe and Doom interaction recorded by @Dreifal. Lmk if someone already posted it:)

▶ Play video

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:05 AM

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balmy imp why did their agents go out on missions with a distinct logo and without hiding ...

also you could say the same thing about stuff like navy SEALS?

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:06 AM

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true I guess

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:06 AM

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fringe thistle wtf never thought we’d get a wholesome moment from akande https://vxtwitter.com...

his family is probably terrified of him

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:07 AM

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i like the idea of his family supporting his decision of basically being a mafia boss lmao

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:08 AM

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putting those cybernetics to good use

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EmotiCoolFingerguns

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:08 AM

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akande comes home for holiday:
“so akande how’s that talon thing going”

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:09 AM

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"should we be expecting a world war soon"

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:09 AM

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"yes, we've just been cleaning up towns now that we are back in business"

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if you catch his drift

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:09 AM

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actually it’s kinda crazy to me that ashe even knows his family history like that?

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:10 AM

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i mean his family ran a pretty prominent cybernetics company

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ashe's family probably did deals with em and the like

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:11 AM

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like how exactly does ashe know about the ogundimu family business

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unless they are just that big

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:11 AM

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she probably put two and two together of akande ogundimu becoming a terrorist and probably not wanting to inherit his familys business

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:12 AM

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Akande Ogundimu was born into a well-regarded Nigerian family, heir to its prosthetic-technology company.

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:12 AM

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i guess i just didn’t expect ashe to actually know doomfist’s full identity like that

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:12 AM

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his identity isn't a secret

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:12 AM

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like how many well regarded nigerian families can you name lol

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i just was not expecting her to know

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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I can imagine there have been biographies and such written about Doomfist in-universe

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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wait his identity is not secret?

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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no

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its a full title

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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well i know he is the third doomfist obviously

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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like how everyone knew the two preivous Doomfists

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/20877886/

Overwatch

Talon Involvement Confirmed in Previous Attack on Helix Facility

NUMBANI – Three months after initial reports of an incident at Helix Security International's classified maximum security installation, a more complete picture of what happened has emerged.

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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i just assumed anyone outside africa wouldn’t know that lol

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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and their real names I think

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 AM

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However, after recent events in Numbani, it can now be confirmed that what occurred was an attack by the Talon organization with the express purpose of freeing one man: Akande Ogundimu, better known as Doomfist.

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he's an international terrorist

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:14 AM

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yknow that makes more sense

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idk why i thought everyone in talon had a secret identity like widow and reaper

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:15 AM

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the only ones who don't have publicly known identities are the ones people think are dead

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:15 AM

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yeah

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:15 AM

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Reaper, Widowmaker, Ana

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:15 AM

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jack

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:16 AM

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there's a big in-universe theory that Soldier 76 = Jack Morrison

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:16 AM

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wait so does ana go by both bastet AND shrike?

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like she’s got 2 separate vigilante identities?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:17 AM

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UN officials have declined to comment on Soldier: 76's identity. However, security personnel who were present at the former Overwatch base break-ins described the attacker as someone well versed in covert ops tactics. Surveillance footage of Soldier: 76 shows him performing superhuman feats of strength and endurance. At my request, noted forensic expert Amir Nejad, PhD, analyzed this footage. He determined that Soldier: 76 is precisely the same height and build that Morrison was in his last public appearance.```

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/19809396/

Overwatch

Fading Glory: On the Trail of Jack Morrison

I remember the day Jack Morrison died. It was the day the world lost a hero.

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:18 AM

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i guess reyes is chopped liver then lmao

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:18 AM

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peak escarp ```I've heard my share of theories that Soldier: 76 is Jack Morrison—theories I ...

whose pov is this

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:19 AM

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Olympia Shaw, a reporter for Atlas News

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:19 AM

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what is this an excerpt from?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:19 AM

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she wrote the in-universe article I linked

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:19 AM

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ah

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that’s a really cool worldbuilding detail

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:20 AM

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quite a few of the lore bits are in-universe articles like that

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:20 AM

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i wonder if jack will get his closure in ow2

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it sounds like he needs a redemption arc to set him back on the right track

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:21 AM

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he'll get his vengeance or he'll die trying

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:21 AM

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im pretty sure they’d never kill off a playable character but that’s a fitting end for him

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Jack sounded really bitter in OW2. also doesn't seem like anything will change his perspective

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:22 AM

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peak escarp he'll get his vengeance or he'll die trying

Pretty sure both would happen

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:22 AM

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in a regular story i think he would die on his path of revenge

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because he’s so stubborn and wrathful

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:23 AM

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Possible either way. Revenge leads to everyone dying. Including the one seeking revenge

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:23 AM

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could you call jack an anti-hero at this point? i feel like he is one

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:24 AM

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It depends how far he will go to get revenge

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:24 AM

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he’s certainly no hero

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he’s more like spawn or the punisher

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:25 AM

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After all, revenge can blind people to the reality and consequences of their actions

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:25 AM

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an anti-hero vigilante that happens to do some good because they still have a moral code

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but are ruthless in killing their enemies and people that piss them off

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like in Hero

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i liked that you could still see a tiny bit of the old jack in him

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:28 AM

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Honestly, considering what Jack’s doing, I’m sure his actions will affect the new Overwatch in some way

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:28 AM

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ever since seeing the Hero short I always thought that Jack's focus on revenge is kind of messing with him. like his morals are more flexible. also it looked like he hesitated to save Alejandra from the grenade, even if in the end he still chose to. it's the fact that it wasn't his immediate choice that makes it seem like his priorities are mostly set on revenge

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:29 AM

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i always loved this shot because it’s so symbolic

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there’s a bit of light in him which is the old jack

past copper Jul 4, 2022, 2:29 AM

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Because what he’s doing now is basically exactly what people were accusing Overwatch years ago

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:30 AM

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but most of him is shaded in darkness because of his lust for revenge

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and then he steps fully into the shadow

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:30 AM

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he aint a hero anymore

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frowncube

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:30 AM

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erasing that light “jack morrison” part of him

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now he’s just “soldier 76” a pure manifestation of his revenge and nothing else

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that’s how i always saw it

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:31 AM

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opal nexus he aint a hero anymore

he does say it himself too, so he knows that what he's doing isn't completely right or good. even if the end goal is noble

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:32 AM

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“you’re one of those heroes arent you?”

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“not anymore”

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i just absolutely adore the symbolism of this shot

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honestly im really excited to see more cgi shorts, imo overwatch as a game really lost itself when they stopped doing those

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they were the one thing that really attracted people to the game because they were intrigued by these characters

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:36 AM

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there's going to be intro and outro cutscenes for every story mission

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like Storm Rising

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:37 AM

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dragons, hero, honor and glory, infiltration, alive, etc

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i feel like those shorts are what really brought people to the game

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the wastelander is really good, it’s just a shame because all the hype it could’ve generated was lost because there’s no game for all the people drawn in to play yet

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like i barely hear anyone talking about this short and that’s kinda crazy considering how big the original shorts were

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:38 AM

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im sure they got a whole bunch of em stocked up for the lead up to early access release

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:38 AM

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cant wait for the sojourn one

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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like that sojourn cinematic

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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they do seem to be working on a few

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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i hope they save the sojourn short for oct 4th

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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it'd be a week before her novel release too

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chumbo

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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imo releasing the full jq short was kind of a mistake because you lost the hype for the actual release in oct

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should’ve waited for launch

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i just want people to care about this game again haha

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:40 AM

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people do care

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it's just the negative voices are too loud

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:41 AM

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that and most people just moved onto the next "big thing"

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:41 AM

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well i mean like, putting the game back into mainstream attention instead of being this niche little hardcore fanbase

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 2:41 AM

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honestly considering the situation we're in the wastelander did pretty decent numbers

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:41 AM

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it’s an awesome short, i really love her character

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i love how it’s like this 4th wall breaking self narrative

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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I dunno jack has been almost
uncharacteristically bitter in OW2
like he flat out tried to pin blackwatch on Genji lol

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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they’ve never tried anything like it before and i think it’s cool

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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clear kestrel I dunno jack has been almost uncharacteristically bitter in OW2 like he flat out...

like Genji was in any position to do anything lol

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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clear kestrel I dunno jack has been almost uncharacteristically bitter in OW2 like he flat out...

yeah he’s totally blinded by anger at this point

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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Jack is such a hypocrite in that line

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:42 AM

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he’s starting to not even make sense

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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I think that's the point

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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he knew about Blackwatch's activities

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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he's so clouded by revenge and unwilling to pin the blame on himself

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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and yet he allowed it

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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it couldn't be him

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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like he’s so angry he’s just losing all sense of logic

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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it HAS to be an outside force that brought OW down
not his own failure

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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i find it interesting how jack and gabe mirror each other

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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yes

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they're exactly the same

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:43 AM

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they're made to be opposites

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:44 AM

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they’re opposites but they’re two sides of the same coin

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one in light, one in shadow

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but both the same

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:44 AM

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I

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I'd hesitate to say Jack is "in the light" at the moment

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more so he's becoming more and more like Reaper every day

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:45 AM

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well i mean that was their original dynamic and now jack is becoming more like gabe

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:45 AM

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again, pinning the blame on Genji?
not cool

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:45 AM

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i just think it’s interesting that he’s becoming more and more bitter like you can see the progression

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:46 AM

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I mean they're literally opposites

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:46 AM

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I think it's because his "revenge quest" isn't actually going anywhere

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:46 AM

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well that is also the point

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overwatch has a running theme of forgiveness and revenge

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you have it there with genji and hanzo

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jack and gabriel

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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urban/rural, straight/gay, hispanic/white, tactician/impulsive

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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fareeha and ana

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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their blood types are even opposites

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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Family/Single

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Atheist/Catholic

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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yeah i know that’s why i said they’re parallels lol

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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yea and that makes the fact that Jack is acting like Gabe more and more even weirder lol

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:47 AM

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that’s why i like it

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 2:48 AM

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Foil is the literary term

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:48 AM

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next thing yknow Jack is gonna get it in his head that previous OW agents were responsible for its downfall

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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he already thinks that lol

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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"goddamn it Jack, couldn't even let me have my own thing even when I'm a bad guy"

sharp trench Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Sounds like horseshoe effect or whatever it’s called

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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He thinks that Winston's Overwatch will fail the same way that his did

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The thing is

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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clear kestrel next thing yknow Jack is gonna get it in his head that previous OW agents were r...

fuck we're basically seeing this in him blaming Genji for no reason

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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None of the current OW roster can reasonably betray Winston

sharp trench Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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sway so drastically from what you once were to become the polar opposite of what you were

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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i love jack’s response to junker queen lmao

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:49 AM

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yea he's so far gone lol

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:50 AM

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“i coulda ran overwatch way better”
”really.”

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:50 AM

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I dunno
I hope Jack gets his head on straight

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:50 AM

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atp i don’t think there’s any hope for him

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:50 AM

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eh

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the PVE shit hasn't even started yet

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we got time

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:51 AM

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not even ana could get him to pull his head out of his ass

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:51 AM

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he's become self aware of it at least
so that's a start

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:51 AM

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feel bad for ana ngl, both of her closest friends have gone psycho

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:51 AM

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she still has Rein and Torb

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:52 AM

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true

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torb is all you need

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:52 AM

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nah
rein is all you need

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:52 AM

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honestly overwatch is kind of a tragedy when you think about it

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:52 AM

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I mean yeah

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 2:53 AM

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it’s not an uplifting or inspiring story in the slightest lol

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 2:53 AM

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I wouldn't go that far lol

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OW fell
but it's getting back up

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I think you're reading too much into this "darkness"

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or at least
I don't think it's as bleak as you think it is

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shit hasn't even started yet

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the world's in a bad shape, but they're fighting the good fight anyway
I think that's very inspiring

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 2:59 AM

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not sure if this was shared already https://twitter.com/owgwadael/status/1541902275949510661?t=wtd0gf5l3pOVUzSBkgQnaA&s=19

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Ana definitely tried to get Jack to stop but je's not listening to anyone

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:04 AM

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you got genji and hanzo’s backstory, the whole fall of overwatch, ana abandoning fareeha, amelie turning into widowmaker, gabriel becoming reaper, jack becoming soldier 76, reinhardt’s backstory, the whole omnic crisis, etc

#

overwatch is bleak

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:06 AM

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except none of those are what the story is about

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Overwatch is an optimistic story about heroes

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not bleak at all

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 3:06 AM

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fringe thistle you got genji and hanzo’s backstory, the whole fall of overwatch, ana abandoning...

this is all prelude tho

#

none of this is the focus of the current story

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yea, the start is bleak and tragic, that's the point
because OW is back now, and they're trying to make things better

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and they already are
Genji has forgiven hanzo
Orisa drove doomfist out of numbani
OWs recall

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can I just say, I was worried the PVE was gonna focus entirely on Nullsector and ignore talon
but it looks like talon are the main enemies of the zen/genji mission so that makes me happy

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:12 AM

#

if you want to know Overwatch's theme, this is all you need
https://youtu.be/IBIwGKDwnWY

YouTube

PlayOverwatch

Overwatch Theatrical Teaser | "We Are Overwatch"

The future is now. Are you with us? To learn more and sign up for the beta, visit http://www.playoverwatch.com

Making its debut in select theaters nationwide, this is the first official Overwatch™ teaser. Team up and accomplish the incredible with a diverse cast of soldiers, scientists, adventurers, and oddities!

Like Us on Facebook: http://...

▶ Play video

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:15 AM

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despite all that is happened
you need only to look at this video

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~~god i wish they remade it with the heroes not featured there~~

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 3:15 AM

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still waiting on a phara animated short

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 3:15 AM

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opal nexus ~~god i wish they remade it with the heroes not featured there~~

also reaper and widow are just
there

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:16 AM

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roadhog and junkrat probably thinking of blowing that satellite out of the sky for fun

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:22 AM

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https://youtu.be/zLvJrWazXlc

YouTube

TheWontonWonton

Overwatch 2 Beta: New Sigma and Lucio interaction

They’re finally giving Sigma some new interactions with people. He didn’t have many in the first game to begin with.

▶ Play video

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awe

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sig is a confirmed lucio enjoyer

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:25 AM

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mans trying to drown out the melody

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frowncube

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:26 AM

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i like that lucio is basically one of the most popular musicians in the world lol

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:27 AM

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lotta people must hate vishkar haha

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:27 AM

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he’s like michael jackson in terms of popularity

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like everyone in the game knows who he is

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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the ironic part is that his music isn't what made him famous

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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opal nexus lotta people must hate vishkar haha

i mean vishkar is just like any big company, nobody likes apple or amazon

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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true true

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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vishkar is basically like apple

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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Lúcio wouldn't stand for it. He stole Vishkar sonic technology that had been used to suppress the people, and he converted it into a tool to rally them to action. In a popular uprising, they drove Vishkar out of their neighborhoods. Lúcio's leadership made him a star overnight and a symbol for positive social change. His music skyrocketed in popularity. Whereas he had once performed locally, he was now filling arenas across the world.

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he wasn't famous until after his revolution

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:29 AM

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giant trillion dollar corp, treats staff like shit, has a monopoly on the market

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im sure vishkar is the same

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:29 AM

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they probably dont even use windows
just panes of hard light that simulate whats outside

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:29 AM

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LMAO

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yeah brazil in overwatch seems like basically a dystopian society

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or at least the parts vishkar controls

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:30 AM

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peak escarp ```Lúcio wouldn't stand for it. He stole Vishkar sonic technology that had been ...

so the dj thing is just a side hobby?

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huh, i thought it was the other way around

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 3:30 AM

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It is the other way around

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:30 AM

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well music is his main gig

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 3:30 AM

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He's a DJ

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:31 AM

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no, he just wasn't famous outside of Brazil until his uprising

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:31 AM

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ah

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explains the rio mission in ow2 more

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the intro where they meet lucio i mean

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i forgot where i heard this but apparently the rio chapter was moved to later in the game

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Slight tangent, but I never expected Lucio to have such a classy home. I expected it to have more colorful lights and a less warm kitchen

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:32 AM

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oh lol have you seen the lucio-ohs kitchen

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Yup!

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:32 AM

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the lucio-ohs commercial is canon 💀

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i can’t believe that was the legit lucio cinematic we were all waiting for

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:33 AM

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Oh right! It is the same kitchen!

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:33 AM

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“oh yeah, one more thing!”

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:33 AM

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the stove is a different colour

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:34 AM

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maybe bro got a different stove sheeesh

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https://twitter.com/Han__OW/status/1541919705249767424?s=20&t=ToTpdpKLJcJmmL3SNTUVCw

Han (ツ) (@Han__OW)

THEY REMADE THE LUCIO-OHS ADVERT KITCHEN LMAO #Overwatch2 #Lucio

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opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:34 AM

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"nice set can i take it home*
"pardon mr santos?"

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:36 AM

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i dont know whats funnier, thinking of him taking the kitchen set home or thinking of him actually filming a cereal commercial in his own kitchen

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:36 AM

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why is that funny?

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celebrities do it all the time

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:36 AM

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idk its just funny to think of

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:37 AM

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look if he can conjure a dj set out of thin air he can do it with a kitchen im sure

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:37 AM

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hardlight dj set

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:37 AM

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can never escape hard light even with the removal of double shields 💀

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:37 AM

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i love that his club in the paraiso map actually plays an edited version of the dance party emote

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:37 AM

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oh yeah!!!!!

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wonder if theres a lore explanation for the map

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:38 AM

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it's his club

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 3:38 AM

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Its his club

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:38 AM

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well yeah but i meant like

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the payload escort

clear kestrel Jul 4, 2022, 3:39 AM

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fringe thistle i forgot where i heard this but apparently the rio chapter was moved to later in...

not confirmed
they just said it was part of the brainstorming process

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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blowing up a mothership seems like a pretty tall order for an early game mission

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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what kind of club has a basketball court

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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So what's the implied narrative on Paraiso (i don't have access to beta 2 so I don't know the map-specific voice lines) So far, King's Row and Numbani are the clearest for me. To EMP or protect the omnics for the former, and to escort or steal the doomfist for the latter

limber gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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fringe thistle what kind of club has a basketball court

the better question is

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why is it indoors

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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what kind of question is that

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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dude club sinestesia is fucking stacked holy crap

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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storm gate So what's the implied narrative on Paraiso (i don't have access to beta 2 so I d...

delivering a parade float to Lucio's club

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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lucio has a whole room of arcade machines in here

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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lucio needs us to steer off haters trying to ruin his day

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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holy shit this a sick as hell club lmao wish they had shit like this in my town

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:41 AM

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peak escarp delivering a parade float to Lucio's club

Is it clear why the defense team is motivated to stop the float?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:42 AM

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not every map has an explanation

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Ok, I guess Paraiso is another ambiguous motivation map

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 3:44 AM

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peak escarp not every map has an explanation

Which ones do? I wanna look them up

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:44 AM

#

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bro has arcade cabinets in his club

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i am absolutely loving all the detail in this map

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you can see his skates and hockey stick in his studio

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he has photos of his albums and singles hanging on his walls

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damn he even has a practice goal in here for football practice

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also this must be his studio where he makes his songs, sick as hell

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:48 AM

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storm gate Which ones do? I wanna look them up

King's Row has the attackers delivering an EMP to the omnic city below the power plant
Hollywood has the attackers escorting an omnic director across the movie studio
Dorado has the attackers delivering a power core to the new power plant
Junkertown has the attackers delivering a payload of treasure and explosives to the Queen (imitating Junktertown: The Plan)
Rialto has the attackers delivering art from the art gallery to the Talon base
Watchpoint Gibraltar has the attackers escorting a satellite drone to the launch pad
Route 66 has the attackers escorting an empty pod (which formerly held Echo) to the Deadlock Gang hideout
Numbani has the attackers delivering a new exhibit (formerly the Doomfist gauntlet) to the Numbani Heritage Museum

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there isn't really an explanation of why you're doing these things

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but these are what you're doing on escort/hybrid maps

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:49 AM

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was the nuke explanation for route 66 ever official?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:49 AM

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nuke explanation?

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:49 AM

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this map is such a love letter to lucio

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i am loving it

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:50 AM

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yeah i heard eons ago before echo was a thing that the attack team was escorting a nuke or smth

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maybe it was just fanon because the other maps had explanations

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:50 AM

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no, that was something the community made up

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:50 AM

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ohhh ok

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 3:51 AM

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since until it opened, nobody knew what was in that pod

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and it kinda looked like a bomb

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:52 AM

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i notice paraiso has a lot of unused space for pve

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this is a really, really big map

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:52 AM

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all those trailers having them fight near the beach made me so confused

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:53 AM

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yeah you can actually go there

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theres just an invisible wall halfway on the shoreline

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 3:53 AM

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yeah had me wondering how big the map actually was because the club and beach seem like two completely different locations

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 3:56 AM

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this is as far as you can go

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we can maybe explore like 10% of the actual map for pvp is my guess

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also we dont even see any vishkar stuff on the playable part

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so im guessing thats another thing for pve

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that looks like some vishkar building off in the far distance so maybe

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 4:09 AM

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peak escarp King's Row has the attackers delivering an EMP to the omnic city below the power...

Ooh thanks for this. So Attacking Hanamura isn't about infiltrating the Hanzo-less Shimada group?

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And I suppose attacking Volskaya is imitating the Infiltration cinematic?

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Interesting how the Rialto payload has art inside

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 4:23 AM

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shimada clan doesnt even exist anymore

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hashimoto came in to take over after overwatch did their business

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 4:24 AM

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they're not really the shimadas anymore

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just a mafia tbh

storm gate Jul 4, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Does that mean the goons were Hashimoto in the Dragons cinematic?

peak escarp Jul 4, 2022, 5:05 AM

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yes

balmy imp Jul 4, 2022, 5:25 AM

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Maximillien is not a publicly known Talon member, right? just a businessman?

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 5:32 AM

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I dont think there is anything telling us otherwise

sharp trench Jul 4, 2022, 7:03 AM

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reaper and widow have some new interactions so thats cool

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 6:26 PM

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i just read some short stories and wow

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code of violence and valkyrie were incredible

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i really loved seeing gabe and mercy’s inner thoughts

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and i liked seeing soldier 76 revert back to jack for a brief few moments in bastet

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seeing him smile and crack jokes

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sombra feels especially antagonistic in code of violence, she seems so evil

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she really drives a knife into gabe’s open wounds by bringing shit up all the time

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the characterization and writing in these are so on point

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i hope we get more talon pov stuff because that was great, i really enjoyed akande’s portrayal and reyes’s thoughts on him

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doomfist is really such a compelling and charismatic villain, i actually really love his philosophy and the way he talks to people

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so intelligent and cunning

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even when he’s literally in jail he’s still persuasive and dangerous, he makes people want to follow him

grand wedge Jul 4, 2022, 7:13 PM

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100% agree on Doomfist. He is a really good villain

worthy rose Jul 4, 2022, 9:46 PM

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junkrats the type of guy to say fire in the hole before busting a nut

crisp hearth Jul 4, 2022, 10:30 PM

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Sigma screams release me at the top of his lungs now when nano boosted

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 10:31 PM

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https://youtu.be/LBRqarr0eJs

YouTube

Hoshizora

Zenyatta being a MASTER TROLL in Overwatch 2

Twitch ► https://www.twitch.tv/hoshizoraow
Twitter ► https://twitter.com/HoshizoraOW

▶ Play video

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i never knew zen was so sassy lmao

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i don’t remember being this sassy in ow1

crisp hearth Jul 4, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Sigmas voice actor for his new voice lines does such an amazing job

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He sounds so off edge in all of his new voice lines

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And he goes insane when he’s popping off

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 10:33 PM

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DEATH HAS TRAVELED LIGHTYEARS TO TAKE YOU

crisp hearth Jul 4, 2022, 10:33 PM

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fringe thistle DEATH HAS TRAVELED LIGHTYEARS TO TAKE YOU

THE UNIVERSE WILL NOT WEEP FOR YOU

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 10:33 PM

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he sounds so intimidating

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ngl

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 10:42 PM

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fringe thistle i don’t remember being this sassy in ow1

he’s kinda always been like this
bit of a young rapscallion

opal nexus Jul 4, 2022, 10:42 PM

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crisp hearth THE UNIVERSE WILL NOT WEEP FOR YOU

COLLAPSE!!!

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 10:49 PM

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sometimes i forget zen is like 20

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zen acts like he’s 70 years old but he’s literally like my age

quasi helm Jul 4, 2022, 11:17 PM

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"i drove a tractor"

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my boys an international harvester

mellow robin Jul 4, 2022, 11:22 PM

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What r the tags for this channels

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!tags

limpid agate Jul 4, 2022, 11:49 PM

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@mellow robin If you mean bot commands you can use here

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You can use !!lorelist or !!loreguide in #bot-commands

mellow robin Jul 4, 2022, 11:57 PM

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Tank u

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Does the lore tags include the newest comics like with zarya and cree

fringe thistle Jul 4, 2022, 11:58 PM

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yes

limpid agate Jul 5, 2022, 12:02 AM

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That would be under !!newblood

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!!newblood

twilit nacelleBOT Jul 5, 2022, 12:02 AM

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Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

mellow robin Jul 5, 2022, 12:17 AM

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Omg they’re free to read too😳

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 12:47 AM

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LOLLL THE REIN ONE

https://vxtwitter.com/hayzelet/status/1544001297468235779?s=21&t=52Waby-5603Isqk9CP3VGA

vxTwitter

Here's a compilation of killing/absorbing Reaper's ultimate! Including what I believe could be an S Club 7 reference at the end? Thank you to @Faalund1 for helping me find these!

Hazelet (@Hayzelet)

Here's a compilation of killing/absorbing Reaper's ultimate! Including what I believe could be an S Club 7 reference at the end?
Thank you to @Faalund1 for helping me find these!

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BONK BONK BONK

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:04 AM

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crisp hearth He sounds so off edge in all of his new voice lines

it's the same VA it always was

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 1:06 AM

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peak escarp it's the same VA it always was

When did I say it wasn’t

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:07 AM

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"Sigmas new voice actor does such an amazing job"

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 1:07 AM

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peak escarp "Sigmas new voice actor does such an amazing job"

I meant new voice lines my bad

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:07 AM

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oh

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but I agree

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Boris Hiestand is amazing in these new lines

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we finally get to see Sigma's personality

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 1:08 AM

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both personalities

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KanyeStare

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:08 AM

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both?

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 1:09 AM

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also he has an interaction with zen now

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:09 AM

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he only has one personality

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 1:09 AM

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CorruptJak

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 1:09 AM

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he's just not always aware of his surroundings

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 1:09 AM

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his mind is like fractured

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 1:10 AM

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Sigma: You’re floating without the use of gravity inhibitors, how is that possible?
Zen: I float thanks to the iris
Sigma: I’ve met the iris before
Zen: How fortunate of you

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that’s how I remember it may not be accurate word by word

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 2:05 AM

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The voice actors in this game are so good

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 2:38 AM

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facts its why i love this game sm

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 2:41 AM

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the characters and story are the reason I still care about it

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without them, it's just another FPS

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 2:51 AM

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for sure

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still mad genji is stuck in such a shit game

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free him

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he’s too good for this game

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 2:58 AM

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If Genji wasn't a cyborg he'd be a regular dude

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:02 AM

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regular ninja dude

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:03 AM

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He'd just be dead

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:07 AM

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he'd be paralyzed

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:14 AM

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fringe thistle LOLLL THE REIN ONE https://vxtwitter.com/hayzelet/status/1544001297468235779?s=...

THE ORISA ONE
I LOVE IT SO MUCH

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SHE ACTUALLY SOUNDS A BIT LIKE OW1 ORISA

sharp trench Jul 5, 2022, 3:18 AM

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fringe thistle LOLLL THE REIN ONE https://vxtwitter.com/hayzelet/status/1544001297468235779?s=...

"No reyes that was not the move"

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sounds like widow and reyes have a little mockery going on between eachother

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:21 AM

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everyone in talon does lol

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 3:22 AM

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Widow tells sigma to put on shoes

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:25 AM

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Sigma is a gentle soul

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:26 AM

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@fringe thistle ok I'm reading code of violence rn
I'm really liking it so far

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:28 AM

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Fellas fellas fellas

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I've been meaning to ask

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What the hell is in ana's nano boost

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:29 AM

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we don't know if nano boost is canon

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if it is, it's probably just an adrenaline shot

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:30 AM

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Appreciate it

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I'd assume something like it exists

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Cause on her lore heavy skins it does exist

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:32 AM

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it exists because of gameplay

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:32 AM

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True

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Like how mercy's staff just doesn't exist in lore

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Gabe doesn't like acknowledging that he's becoming a monster
oh that's juicy

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what

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I'm pretty sure her staff exists

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Soldier 24 Reaper can still use wraith form, even though that skin is from long before he had wraith powers

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:32 AM

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karmic turret Cause on her lore heavy skins it does exist

on the official lore depictions it isnt there

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it’s most likely gameplay only

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:33 AM

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why wouldn't her staff exist?

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fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:33 AM

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but it might not be who knows

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also mercy uses her staff to heal in Valkyrie

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some gameplay abilities like soldier healing can are gameplay only

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:34 AM

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clear kestrel <@211013940610727936> ok I'm reading code of violence rn I'm really liking it so...

it is really good isnt it

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:35 AM

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hell yeah

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:35 AM

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i recommend valkyrie and bastet because those are also really good

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:35 AM

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I adore gabes characterization and I like that it dispels the notion that he was always an asshole or some shit
dude was genuinely a good person

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:35 AM

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valk felt like a really good story, it feels longer than the others

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:36 AM

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Yeah the staff stuff was dumb

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:36 AM

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yeah i love that it contextualizes why someone like gabe would join talon in the first place

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akande is just that good

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dude has a silver tongue

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:36 AM

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it's really tragic
but it makes me think there's still hope for gabe

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but he might be too far gone by OW2 so who knows

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:37 AM

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he’s still a decent person deep down

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:37 AM

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Ana's rifle bewilders me

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:37 AM

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like it really got me how gabe recognized how each soldier he killed had a family and a life just like he did

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:37 AM

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karmic turret Ana's rifle bewilders me

what about it?

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:37 AM

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it was kind of heartbreaking

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and the way sombra pushes his buttons feels straight up evil

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like she’s really kicking him while he’s down

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:38 AM

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peak escarp what about it?

how it works outside the game

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:38 AM

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same as in game

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it’s biotic darts

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:38 AM

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BUT how do the darts know they're in an enemy?

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:38 AM

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same thing the bullets jack got hit by in bastet were laced with

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:38 AM

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Or an ally?

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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karmic turret BUT how do the darts know they're in an enemy?

the healing part isn’t canon

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

#

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she switches darts

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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oh i guess it is

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but i would assume she just switches ammo yeah

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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peak escarp she switches darts

Ah so my hypothesis was right

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Brilliant

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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I hope sigma gets a short story at some point

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also can I just say
this reaper design is cool af

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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I want Hanzo to get more lore

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:39 AM

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its just like loading hollow point or FMJ bullets in real life

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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because I don't like Hanzo

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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Ana is just a micromanagement machine

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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i have a very strong feeling we’re going to see a lot more of hanzo’s journey in ow2

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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goddamn it
no image perms I keep forgetting

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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a short story or novel would help me like him more

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:40 AM

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which image you wanna send?

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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peak escarp a short story or novel would help me like him more

kanezaka/kyogisha hanzo shouldve gotten a short story

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idk why they didn’t do that

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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karmic turret which image you wanna send?

the design of reaper from code of violence

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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there was a letter

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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clear kestrel the design of reaper from code of violence

Oh yeah that's pretty badass

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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i think hanzo was the only weekly challenge skin to not get a short story

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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peak escarp there was a letter

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/

Overwatch

[CORRESPONDENCE] Post for Toshiro Yamagami

As winter leads to spring, let me write a letter of lightness. Perhaps it will grant us both a little peace, even as I turn my blade to keeping the peace here from shattering altogether. -Asa

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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clear kestrel the design of reaper from code of violence

oh dusk reaper

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:41 AM

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which is also a hint for the upcoming Support hero

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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oh sweet it did get a skin

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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fringe thistle i think hanzo was the only weekly challenge skin to not get a short story

Maestro sigma

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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that's awesome

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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peak escarp https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/

yeah but it wasn’t about hanzo lol, wouldve liked something focused on him

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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fringe thistle i think hanzo was the only weekly challenge skin to not get a short story

Lego Bastion

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Pachamari Hog

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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I hope they bring back the weekly skin challenges

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Mardi Gras Ashe

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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so many skins I missed out on

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:42 AM

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karmic turret Maestro sigma

well i mean like, the only exclusive weekly challenge not tied to anything

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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fringe thistle well i mean like, the only exclusive weekly challenge not tied to anything

Tied to the map

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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maestro sig was part of an anniversary promotion and lego bastion was obviously a lego promotion

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hanzo is the only non promotion skin to not have it

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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Maestro Sigma was to celebrate the release of the soundtrack

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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Map promotion

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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yeah

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:43 AM

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Kyogisha Hanzo was to promote Kanezaka

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:44 AM

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i feel like they couldve squeezed a short in idk

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:44 AM

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Mardi gras Ashe was to promote Mardi gras

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:44 AM

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yeah

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those aren’t like the challenge skins i was thinking about

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stuff like combat medic bap, dr ziegler mercy, marhamat sym, dusk reaper etc

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idk how to spell sym’s skin

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:45 AM

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those are all lore skins

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:45 AM

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ya

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:45 AM

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Kyogisha is not a lore skin

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:45 AM

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i feel like kyogisha couldve been that tho

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:45 AM

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I will ask the fox spirit for strength to continue this fight guys maybe we are getting magic in Overwatch

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:46 AM

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"What is magic but science we do not yet understand?"

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:46 AM

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true true

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:47 AM

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OH SHIT

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||HI SIGMA||

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:47 AM

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yup that’s what the whole mission was about lol

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surprise

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:49 AM

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We heard it in sigmas origin didn't we

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:50 AM

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I don't know why it didn't click with me but I thought this was meant to be them breaking akande out of prison

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:51 AM

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nah that was a flashback

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that was reyes deciding to join talon

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:51 AM

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no I know

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:51 AM

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the story is his first mission

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:51 AM

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I meant the premise of the book itself

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:51 AM

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ye

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:52 AM

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this is his first mission?

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:52 AM

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it could have been clearer about which part was a flashback

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WYLB had the flashbacks in italics

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:52 AM

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no I knew it was a flashback

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that wasn't what confused me

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I thought the entire premise of the book was reaper breaking akande out of prison

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:52 AM

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yeah this is his first mission

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him talking to akande was a flashback

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:53 AM

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I know it was a flashback

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:53 AM

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he’s been in talon for a little bit in cov

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you can see akande talking to gabe on his hud at the beginning

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:54 AM

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Realistic Moira is so funny to me ngl

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:54 AM

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he mentions “akande warned me about you” to sombra

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sombra feels like such a genuine villain in cov tbh, was not expecting her to be so antagonistic

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:54 AM

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ok the thing that made me think it was about breaking out akande was
"whilst I remain confined"

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:55 AM

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like gabe actually seemed genuinely worried about sombra’s ambiguous motives

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:55 AM

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Oh me again, been thinking how does Moira suck work?

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:55 AM

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gabe acknowledging the people he killed had families and loved ones
that's so sad

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:55 AM

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he also seemed to miss how the military, overwatch, and blackwatch were a sort of family

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i thought that was nice

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reyes feels really human in cov

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he does actually miss his old life, genuinely, but he thinks this is the only path he can go on now

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so he buries his feelings

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:57 AM

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He's too far gone to go back

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:57 AM

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so he thinks

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in cov he wasn’t

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now he probably is though

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:57 AM

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he's pretty well beyond redemption now

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:58 AM

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he actually genuinely thought about taking his old life back for a second

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he thought of his wife and son

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:58 AM

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fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 3:58 AM

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and then he pushed it aside because he thought he was too far gone

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that page was genuinely heartbreaking

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 3:59 AM

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I love how reaper looks in that comic

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:59 AM

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fringe thistle that page was genuinely heartbreaking

I just finished it

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holy shit

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this man is an absolute mess

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 3:59 AM

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Code of Violence gave Reaper so much more depth than he had before

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 3:59 AM

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gabe and jack are opposites
but they're also exactly the same in some aspects

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:00 AM

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neither one of them can let go of their grudges

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:00 AM

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and they both do what they do out of some
warped sense of justice

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at least jack is closer to the light in that regard

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but I get the feeling even he's starting to slip

devout crane Jul 5, 2022, 4:01 AM

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Who is max?

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in sombra's voiceline she says "anyone wants drinks they are on max's tab"

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:02 AM

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maximilien
doomfists accountant

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the talon omnic

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:03 AM

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he was the target of the Storm Rising mission

karmic turret Jul 5, 2022, 4:03 AM

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Sombra is just pure chaos

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I love her

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:03 AM

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ok now on to bastet and valkyrie

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:03 AM

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imo Bastet and Valkyrie are the weakest of the short stories

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Michael Chu just isn't very good at writing prose

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:04 AM

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ok valkyrie being in first person is a bit of a shift

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:05 AM

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yeah

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 4:08 AM

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valkyrie is my favorite so far

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:22 AM

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ok yeah that was awesome

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now on to bastet

fringe thistle Jul 5, 2022, 4:25 AM

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imo its better if you read bastet first

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because valkyrie directly follows up on that

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but you’ll go in with more knowledge rn so it’s fine

limpid agate Jul 5, 2022, 4:40 AM

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The order of the others dont matter much

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But you definitely had to read

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Legacy > Old Soldiers > Bastet > Valkyrie > New Blood

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 AM

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I wonder how outdated train hopper is in regards to current OW story direction

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aside from Cassidys name

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 AM

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nothing of consequence happens in it

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 AM

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I guess it's largely just
Cassidy character building

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 4:46 AM

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yeah

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 4:52 AM

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at this point I only see 2 paths for reaper
redemption
or going rogue

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working for neither talon nor overwatch

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serving his own agenda

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:02 AM

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Sigma has an interesting new interaction with solider

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Solider tells sigma that talon is using him and sigma just ignores him

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 5:06 AM

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I like to imagine sigma is aware talon is just using him
but either feels powerless to do anything about it or just doesn't care

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:08 AM

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Solider: Snap out of it old man, talon is using you!
Sigma: What are an interesting ant on the ceiling!
Solider: Hey, I’m talking to you!
Sigma: Where are you going, little friend?

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Anyone else I should test if sigma has interactions with

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 5:22 AM

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doomfist maybe?

pine spindle Jul 5, 2022, 5:28 AM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Hayzelet/status/1543325027810086913

Hazelet (@Hayzelet)

https://t.co/gN2OFlnLlQ

▶ Play video

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Evil zen ??? What

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:28 AM

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clear kestrel doomfist maybe?

For some reason you can’t add him as an AI in custom games

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He does have interactions with every other talon member though

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 5:29 AM

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then add sigma as an ai and play as doom

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:29 AM

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clear kestrel then add sigma as an ai and play as doom

Didn’t think of that

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Will try

opal nexus Jul 5, 2022, 5:32 AM

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pine spindle https://mobile.twitter.com/Hayzelet/status/1543325027810086913

not what that interaction is implying

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if people are free to do what they want
what will stop them from acting on their feelings of malice

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 5:34 AM

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he's not saying free will is bad

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more-so
evil will always exist

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:35 AM

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clear kestrel then add sigma as an ai and play as doom

You can’t add sigma as ai either

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Weird

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 5:35 AM

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huh

opal nexus Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 AM

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yeah sigma and doomfist are probably a bit too complex to program simple ai for them

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gonna need multiple people to get interactions

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 AM

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opal nexus yeah sigma and doomfist are probably a bit too complex to program simple ai for ...

But they had AI in ow1

opal nexus Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 AM

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really

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EmotiPerplexed

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 AM

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Did they not?

opal nexus Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 AM

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let me check
they havent added new AI heroes to ow1 in ages

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yeah theres no doom or sigma ai in ow1

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stops at sombra lol

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 AM

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in OW1 there were very few heroes with AI

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 AM

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opal nexus let me check they havent added new AI heroes to ow1 in ages

Sojourn and junkerqueen has AI

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Weird

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 AM

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not even all the launch heroes

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in OW2, 27 heroes have AI

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the ones that don't have movement abilities that are too complex for the AI (Echo, Pharah, D.Va, Doomfist)

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or Sigma, because of his shield

limpid agate Jul 5, 2022, 5:38 AM

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They had Workshop dummy bots for every hero

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We dont have Workshop yet in OW2

crisp hearth Jul 5, 2022, 5:38 AM

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peak escarp or Sigma, because of his shield

Speaking of his shield I swear it was shadow buffed in ow2 cause it moves much faster to me

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:09 AM

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I'm so fucking excited for the story mode
goddamn it 2023 can't come fast enough

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huh
that's interesting
I'm reading new blood and apparently baps amp matrix is a canon ability he has

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:20 AM

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how many ultimates have appeared in comics or anything except the game anyways?

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:21 AM

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quite a few

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:22 AM

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dragonblade, dragon-arrow, pulse bomb, self-destruct are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:22 AM

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baps amp matrix as I mentioned

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 AM

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Pharah’s barrage

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 AM

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tac visor and death blossom

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primal rage

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 AM

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This is what I get for never reading the comics

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 AM

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Mercy’s “res”

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 AM

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I guess we saw earth shatter in zero hour?

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:24 AM

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We saw earth shatter a few times. If you count Honor and Glory

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:24 AM

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graviton surge too

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:24 AM

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Rip balderich still.
I wanna see rein dual-wield hammers to this day

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Doomfist’s meteor strike

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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when did we ever see meteor strike outside the game?

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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was it the anime doomfist thing?

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Technically in his animated short

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Heroes with ults seen in the lore: Ashe, Baptiste, Bastion, Cassidy, D.Va, Doomfist, Genji, Hanzo, Lucio, Orisa, Pharah, Reaper, Reinhardt, Soldier 76, Tracer, Widowmaker, Winston, Zarya

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:25 AM

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oh we also see tank bastions in honor and glory

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:26 AM

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Remember when Doomfist punched the ground? That was his ult

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:26 AM

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he did it in Hero of Numbani

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:26 AM

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clear kestrel oh we also see tank bastions in honor and glory

Ooh thats true, but we haven't seen actual bastion do it yet. They might not even have him in tank form cause of the new ult he has

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:26 AM

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I get the feeling that bastion having a tank configuration as well as a turret form is non-canon
I think bastion units can only be one or the other at any give ntime

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:27 AM

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He kneeled for a couple seconds, channeling an enormous amount of potential energy, then jumped high into the air, yelling “Meteor strike!”—gauntlet aimed right at Lúcio.

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:27 AM

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Too bad lucio can just wall ride out of it in the actual game

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:27 AM

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We also see Soldier’s ult

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:27 AM

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tank Bastions seem to be different models than other Bastions - we've never seen one transform into the other

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:28 AM

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And technically we see Ashe’s ult. I guess that counts

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:28 AM

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peak escarp tank Bastions seem to be different models than other Bastions - we've never seen...

yea so either our bastion is an anomaly or the tank form/mortar form is just a gameplay thing

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:28 AM

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like with many things, it's probably just gameplay

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:28 AM

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Idk if Cole can be counted or not. Depends on what you think of Reunion

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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that was definitely a representation of Deadeye

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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the tumbleweed passed by so yeah, I'd say so.

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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I mean dead eye probably isn't an actual ability
he's just a good shot

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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it had everything except the glow

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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The glow is also probably just a gameplay thing

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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Probably. It’s a gameplay warning to the enemy team

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:29 AM

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but it had the audio cues (guitar riff, hawk, bell toll, ticking clock)

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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wonder where the guitar riff came from in that short anyways

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think he has a speaker in his robot arm for it?

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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I can't tell if yall are being serious or just doing a bit

past copper Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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I don’t know bout this. But the Mei and Tracer combo in Zero Hour might be both ults

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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it's not diagetic

clear kestrel Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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you don't think he just actively summons shit from the fucking aether do you?

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:30 AM

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it's part of the soundtrack

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:31 AM

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clear kestrel you don't think he just actively summons shit from the fucking aether do you?

was a joke, will stop now.

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:34 AM

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Was it ever explained how / why cass got his robot arm

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:34 AM

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past copper I don’t know bout this. But the Mei and Tracer combo in Zero Hour might be both ...

pulse bomb definitely, the cryogenic canister could be considered part of mei's ult because snowball is always in that canister in-game,

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:35 AM

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He had a human arm during blackwatch right? Or am I mis remembering

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:35 AM

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tall sleet Was it ever explained how / why cass got his robot arm

nope - "that's a story for another time"

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:35 AM

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😧

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:35 AM

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all we know is that he lost it after leaving Overwatch

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:35 AM

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doesn't he always have some odd excuse for it or was that torb

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:36 AM

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I want more Moira lore

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Me need in depth examination of her corrupted arm

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:37 AM

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tall sleet Me need in depth examination of her corrupted arm

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:37 AM

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Can her primary attack canonically harm omnics?
She talked about how she likes to mess with maxmilian, and says she doesn't experiment on omnics yet, but can her purple arm hurt them?

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:38 AM

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we don't know

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:38 AM

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shame

peak escarp Jul 5, 2022, 6:38 AM

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we haven't seen her use it on any omnics

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:38 AM

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I’ve already seen that pic

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I want examination of progression * of her corrupted arm

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I wanna know how she feels about it! If the corruption is spreading elsewhere etc

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:39 AM

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I do not want to see a fully corrupted moira

tall sleet Jul 5, 2022, 6:39 AM

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I do 😍

patent fable Jul 5, 2022, 6:39 AM

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good halloween skin ig