Last we heard anything bout him was first issue of New Blood wasn’t it
#lore-discussion
past copper
peak escarp
he was alluded to, but not mentioned by name
past copper
Hmm. I guess the two went their separate ways
peak escarp
opal nexus
jack is such a bad boy that he went to hell with the mask and decided to show off his raggedy ass beard
peak escarp
hard to wear a mask when you have a beard
past copper
hard to wear a mask when you have a beard
Speaking from experience. You’re 100% correct
opal nexus
good point
past copper
Looks like he also has a buzz cut now
opal nexus
i wonder if every redesign will get some sort of lore explanation
past copper
I personally love Junkrat’s new look. Even if some people jokingly say he looks like a YouTuber
peak escarp
he looks saner
past copper
True. He does look like he’s got his head on straight
peak escarp
he's pretty intelligent, he knows how to make things
past copper
But I bet he’s still got a big mouth
peak escarp
I wonder if he made his arm and/or leg
past copper
I’d imagine Junkertown has shops that make prosthetics
peak escarp
probably
past copper
Though. Low quality compared to most others
opal nexus
junkers just go with ork logic
believe in it so hard it just starts doing stuff
peak escarp
opal nexus
rat bastard (endearing)
past copper
I’ll say this. Junkrat looks less like a character from Mad Max and more like a character from Book of Eli
opal nexus
did they add new voice lines this patch?
heard junkrat say "got me a mine like a trap" when he placed down his bear trap (i forgot what he said verbatim)
ive also heard a bunch of other lines but im not sure if theyre just rare or actually new
wait replays are a thing i can probably use that
"i've got a mine like a steel trap"
thats the line
jovial wolf
When is overwatch league going to use junker queen next week?
iron plume
"i've got a mine like a steel trap"
It's "mind", meaning you don't forget anything
though the altered version was used for his achievement because mine pun
I don't think I've ever heard it though
iron plume
When is overwatch league going to use junker queen next week?
That's a question better suited to #esports-discussion
jovial wolf
Oops I thought I clicked that one sorry
worthy rose
do you think that we will have the wastelands as a pve map?
fringe thistle
absolutely
worthy rose
i hope so
fringe thistle
they did go out of their way to showcase pve weather effects
worthy rose
based on the trailers idk if there will be maps in the pve that are exclusively for the story mode
and not just maps for other game modes that are altered
peak escarp
they did say the Story missions would have custom maps
peak escarp
Hero Missions would be on PvP maps
peak escarp
yes
fringe thistle
there might be specific locations not featured in pvp
peak escarp
Story Missions are the campaign, with specific heroes per mission
worthy rose
oh cool
fringe thistle
it’s not really a “story” for hero missions
peak escarp
Hero Missions are like the quick play of PvE, and you can use any hero
fringe thistle
more like challenges
peak escarp
it seems some of them did
when she gets hit during the fight you can see a brief flash of her and her mother standing in front of some graves
worthy rose
I wanna know the interactions between Junker Queen and other group leaders (Doomfist, Ashe, Shimada Brothers)
worthy rose
when she gets hit during the fight you can see a brief flash of her and her moth...
ohh yeah
fringe thistle
she’s probably heard of talon
i doubt she’d know the shimadas or deadlock gang
maybe she might have heard of genji in passing since he was in overwatch
worthy rose
i hope we get sprays of Geiger and Meri
worthy rose
i doubt she’d know the shimadas or deadlock gang
yeah idk how isolated junker town is to the rest of the world since it seems like a place no one would wanna really go to
fringe thistle
australia is just like that in general
i just don’t think she would have heard of an american biker gang and a japanese yakuza family unless they were world famous
worthy rose
true
I thought Zarya was extreme with her views on omnics, but it seems like shes slowly being more open
compared to Junker Queen who wears omnic body parts ._ .
fringe thistle
i mean yeah you can pretty much guess how she feels about omnics lmao
peak escarp
Zarya has been shown that there's other omnics than the ones she's at war with
fringe thistle
zarya is slowly learning
peak escarp
Junker Queen probably doesn't have that exposure
worthy rose
true
fringe thistle
it sounds like omnics were hunted for sport in junkertown so they probably just see them as robots
worthy rose
it would be cool to see how Junker Queen feels about Ashe and Bob
fringe thistle
a lot of people in the overwatch universe still don’t think of omnics as people
peak escarp
a lot of Overwatch players don't think of omnics as people
karmic turret
it would be cool to see how Junker Queen feels about Ashe and Bob
JQ is gonna be racist towards Zen
past copper
Bet she hates Orisa
Remember, they adding voice lines for when a hero eliminates specific enemies
worthy rose
shes def gonna trash talk the omnics
fringe thistle
junk alr does lol
worthy rose
i thought he had fun banter with bastion
fringe thistle
he softened up his stance on omnics a bit in 2
worthy rose
yay
hmm ig its fairly easy to leave the wastelands
didnt junk and road get kicked out
but managed to like go around the globe stealing stuff?
fringe thistle
not easy at all lol
worthy rose
oh
worthy rose
true but i thought junk and road left and did a crime spree
worthy rose
if i were kicked out id just try to get out of austrailia
worthy rose
oh true
past copper
I can’t wait to experience weather phenomena. It will be cool to feel the game come to life even if it’s only PvE hero missions
worthy rose
yeah!
i wonder if itll impact gameplay outside of visually
like if high winds makes it harder to move
sturdy sparrow
projectiles could be thrown around a little
past copper
Player movement might not be affected, but maybe something a little more realistic. Like objects used as cover could move depending on the weather or certain storms affect player aim
I do wonder on one phenomenon though. Earthquakes
peak escarp
what about them
past copper
Would they add earthquakes? I’d imagine 1 or 2 of the maps are in earthquakes areas
worthy rose
I do wonder on one phenomenon though. Earthquakes
ooo
peak escarp
they're not weather, so probably not
past copper
I guess. But a natural disaster is just as common as weather, but I guess it wouldn’t be wise to add them
peak escarp
just as common as weather
past copper
It would probably depend on the map regardless. I would’ve said tsunami, but I don’t think any map is capable of getting that
worthy rose
>just as common as weather
todays forecast: some tornadoes in the early morning coupled with earthquakes in the evening
worthy rose
It would probably depend on the map regardless. I would’ve said tsunami, but I d...
water based hero!
peak escarp
I live in an earthquake-prone area... we get hundreds of earthquakes a year and I've only ever felt 2 of them
worthy rose
scary
peak escarp
they were pretty mild
past copper
Well. Some weather/natural disasters can create others
A volcanic eruption can cause earthquakes and likely tsunamis
peak escarp
my point being, they're definitely not "as common as weather"
past copper
A hurricane can cause severe storms, tornadoes, and flooding
worthy rose
Who will speak on the mic in junker town now that the Queen is playable?
crisp hearth
I wonder what was the music like in the 2020’s and 30’s because Reinhardt calls them “classical”
iron plume
Reinhardt's mention of "classics" refers to Hasselhoff
Which is a joke about Germans loving him
Hasselhoff was most popular in 80s/90s
opal nexus
reinhardt was one of those i was born in the wrong generation kids huh
fringe thistle
damn he’s literally me
clear kestrel
it's weird to think that Rein, Gabe and Jack all grew up with present memes
like can you imagine Rein just going
"YES, ZAT VAS POGGERS!"
and Hana looking at him like she just discovered a fossil
sharp trench
“youuu lookin kinda suuus” - reaper
digital forum
19 dollar fortnite card, who wants it? - soldier 76
peak escarp
the older heroes (Sigma, Ana, Reinhardt, Jack, Gabe, Torbjorn) would all be Gen Alpha kids
topaz steppe
the older heroes (Sigma, Ana, Reinhardt, Jack, Gabe, Torbjorn) would all be Gen ...
i- IM OLDER THAB THEM?!
fringe thistle
yes you’re even older than rein and sigma
rein was born in 2015
so he’d be like, 7 years old right now lmao
limpid agate
Assuming present day is 2076
desert yacht
i- IM OLDER THAB THEM?!
not you but everybody else here
karmic turret
Its always been funny how everyone is older than the oldest overwatch character
iron plume
that happens with things set in the future
peak escarp
I prefer to think of relative age
storm gate
I find it funny that someone's older than Rein in the cast. Sigma doesn't really feel like the oldest character. His age feels distant from his overall essence. Is that another effect of the black hole? Time and space playing in a different tempo we cannot fathom?
cosmic crest
I agree actually
I feel like it'd be more thematically aproriate for Rein to be the oldest hero
His age is a major part of his character and story
That's not really the case for Sigma
timid minnow
Wasn’t sigma also at horizon lunar colony?
grand wedge
He went there - but we don't know how long/how many times
past copper
Certainly looking forward to something from the Founders Pack. Jester Sombra
She finally gets a skin based on the costume she wore in Doomfist’s comic
past copper
True. They didn’t bother adding the frilly collar or skirt
But I’d imagine it probably doesn’t matter in the long run
Given OW2 drops in October and talk bout OW1 being shut down sometime after (don’t know if that’s true and don’t know how to feel)
peak escarp
they couldn't add those because epic skins don't change the body model of the hero
peak escarp
Given OW2 drops in October and talk bout OW1 being shut down sometime after (don...
OW1 is being replaced by OW2 on October 4
they will not exist at the same time
past copper
Hence why I said shut down. Though, I guess unplayable would’ve worked best
limpid agate
If that is your definition of shut down
Overwatch 1 shutdown around 6 years ago when Ana came out
And got replaced with Overwatch 1.2
Overwatch 2 is just a 2.0 update from our current version of 1.72
worn island
oh wow are we really at 1.72?
karmic turret
Overwatch 1 shutdown around 6 years ago when Ana came out
Ow1 shut down in the beta when they added skins
peak escarp
guess
tall sleet
hammond
peak escarp
Reaper and Mei
tall sleet
reapers lore is so good
past copper
Junkrat and Hanzo. One’s a explosive psycho comic relief and the other is a kickass marksman ninja
digital forum
Winston, Mercy, and Moira
opal nexus
reinhardt and genji
tall sleet
who got the worst lore in the game though? 🤔
peak escarp
the worst or the least?
peak escarp
I don't think anyone lore is bad
Hammond's is weird but it makes sense within the universe
tall sleet
I like hammond's lore actually LOL i think its quite cute and funny
desert yacht
Hammond origin story is my favorite atm
peak escarp
the heroes with the least amount of lore appearances are Hanzo, Lucio, Hammond and Zenyatta
they all have one major appearance and a few cameos
if origin trailers aren't included, then Hammond hasn't appeared anywhere aside from cameos in The Wastelander
clear kestrel
is Gabriel canonically spanish? I see it a lot in fics
peak escarp
he's Mexican-American
night siren
I understand “Alive” is basically widow’s short but I still hold hope that widow gets another proper cinematic that shows the history of her at chateau guillard and her husband dying while as a normal person prior to the heart slowing down then we see how it all happens
peak escarp
I'd love to see what she was like before she was kidnapped
molten shore
Does genji have balls
night siren
I'd love to see what she was like before she was kidnapped
IKR
clear kestrel
do we actually know the extent of Genjis injuries after his fight with Hanzo?
I've read some fics where Hanzo basically cuts him in half and he's only barely kept alive by his weird mystical dragon voodoo shit
limpid agate
Mostly but not specifically
@peak escarp Has a picture floating around
nvm I found it
Genji injuries
peak escarp
you beat me to it
limpid agate
I thought the scroll bisection was on this too
peak escarp
we don't know how much of that damage is from the fight and how much was removed to make way for the cybernetics
all we know is that the fight left him unable to walk
molten shore
Genji injuries
Wait so he has new eyes
fringe thistle
probably bionic enhancements at the very least
i don’t think his eyes were damaged, it was probably just to make him a better assassin
molten shore
Didn't mercy also ask Ana about a replacement eye
fringe thistle
ana already had a bionic eye to begin with
the eye that amelie shot was bionic, thats why she was such a good sniper
ana was already a good sniper, so the egyptian military outfitted her with a bionic eye to make her an even better shot during the omnic crisis
fringe thistle
yup
worn island
they all have one major appearance and a few cameos
Wait what's Lucio's major appearance?
fringe thistle
the lucio-oh’s commercial lol
limpid agate
Wait what's Lucio's major appearance?
Lucio had a major role in Orisa's novel Hero of Numbani
limpid agate
A large amount of the story was tied directly to him
peak escarp
It was a fairly major appearance in the novel
sick kayak
I understand “Alive” is basically widow’s short but I still hold hope that widow...
That would actually be so beautiful, seeing her "normal" self with the sinking feeling you know something terrible is about to happen
night siren
Yes! And if they actually showed her vulnerable with emotions it would make us feel bad for her; who is made out to be the villain.
night siren
That would actually be so beautiful, seeing her "normal" self with the sinking f...
It’s always so blissful when main villains get story arcs that make the audience feel bad for them and that they’re misunderstood
peak escarp
she's already a tragic villain because of her backstory
but she's still a remorseless killer
beyond redemption
clear kestrel
I mean
widow is
not amelie
if they can break the conditioning I think she can easily be redeemed
clear kestrel
I wonder if bastion basically having PTSD will ever be brought up again
fringe thistle
it was already in a storyboard
peak escarp
maybe it gets triggered during a mission
fringe thistle
when reinhardt meets bastion
it probably triggered rein’s ptsd too and that’s why he attacked bastion
peak escarp
that wasn't Bastion responding to a trigger - that was Bastion defending itself from Reinhardt
fringe thistle
fair
peak escarp
Reinhardt doesn't have PTSD
fringe thistle
im more surprised rein has nothing to say about orisa
peak escarp
he's got a very good reason to attack Bastion
fringe thistle
considering he literally lost an eye and a mentor to an or-14
peak escarp
I think Orisa would look different enough that Reinhardt wouldn't mind
fringe thistle
idk
peak escarp
I'm tired of people saying that any hero with trauma has PTSD
fringe thistle
i mean with reinhardt it’s very reasonable
peak escarp
but has he shown any signs of having it?
Reinhardt doesn't have it
D.Va doesn't have it
Soldier doesn't have it
fringe thistle
i guess he seemed fine in uprising
peak escarp
Baptiste might have it, since he has shown symptoms (nightmares, avoidance)
fringe thistle
which it would have messed him up seeing bastion and or-15s during uprising
peak escarp
Bastion doesn't even technically have it, it's just following old programming
fringe thistle
i was kinda just headcanoning since eichenwalde was such a traumatic experience for him
sharp trench
which comic did rein attack bastion
peak escarp
which comic did rein attack bastion
it was in the OW2 storyboards seen at Blizzconline
fringe thistle
in an upcoming ow2 cutscene
we saw the storyboards for it yup
it’s presumably when rein and brig go back to gothenburg to meet up with torb and see bastion for the first time
fringe thistle
Baptiste might have it, since he has shown symptoms (nightmares, avoidance)
his time in talon really messed him up huh
aren’t they still hunting him down, i’d be terrified too
he says “stop coming after me” when you kill a talon member in game so
night siren
if anyone needs a redemption arc it's Hanzo
For what lmao
Also where’s the Moira/reaper backstory of him becoming reaper itself!!
sick kayak
if anyone needs a redemption arc it's Hanzo
limpid agate
I used to say that Hanzo and Symmetra were the only two who could get a redemption arc, feasibly
But I do wonder if it is in the cards for Sombra to get a heroic arc now too.
Reaper, Widowmaker, Moira, Doomfist, Ashe, and the Junkers are definitely still villains.
Well, Junkrat/Roadhog
Not sure about Junker Queen
clear kestrel
ehh
I could see the junkers being more anti-heroes really
they're just in it for the money
limpid agate
Roadhog is in it to make the world suffer
Junkrat is in it for the money and explosions
fringe thistle
i don’t think sombra even qualifies for a “redemption arc”
she’s already like a robin hood sorta character, she’s only even involved with talon to use their resources for good
limpid agate
Right
But she is still a villain
Not an anti-hero like Robin Hood
She straight up murders people and mindfucks omnics for Talon
She was responsible for fading in Numbani that was causing Omnics to lose their memories
And in some cases, free will
clear kestrel
what about ashe? how's she a villain?
iron plume
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sharp trench
who is the most evil or sinister character in overwatch
digital forum
Widow technically even though she was brainwashed to be so evil
She is remorseless, cold, and enjoys killing
peak escarp
who is the most evil or sinister character in overwatch
Reaper
peak escarp
For what lmao
for killing his brother? Hanzo needs to forgive himself and move on
worthy rose
for killing his brother? Hanzo needs to forgive himself and move on
He didn't kill his brother tho, he gravely wounded him but didn't kill him
worthy rose
who is the most evil or sinister character in overwatch
If you ask me, it's probably Reaper
definitely not biased
worthy rose
Plus, he is out to get and kill the other Overwatch agents
so yeah, he's the most evil/sinister character in OW
fringe thistle
whoa wtf
https://vxtwitter.com/BobaRatBlast/status/1541860075417001990?s=20&t=U0xo9WLNwlqmP6MThw6Utw
i wonder if they're gonna explain what happened to his tooth and finger after ow1 lmao
glad valley
How strong is genji lore wise?
molten shore
Idk where to ask about this but lore wise who would win in a fight Jetstream Sam or Genji
limpid agate
Jetstream Sam
Genji is not that powerful
Overwatch power levels in general are fairly low
molten shore
Sam in the dlc is kinda slow
No moving but attacking
So I feel if genji won it would be off speed
molten shore
I find it ridiculous that people think Genji has a chance against Jack
limpid agate
He doesnt
molten shore
Have you seen the death battle episode
limpid agate
Death Battle takes gameplay feats too ltierally
molten shore
Wait what about genji vs pathfinder
limpid agate
Who
limpid agate
I dont know anything about Apex
sharp trench
genji would get obliterated against any competent opponent that is relatively modern
limpid agate
I wouldnt say that.
He is on the higher level of the power scale for Overwatch
Its just Overwatch's power level isnt that high to begin with, compared to most series
past copper
These two lookin sick and I love it
opal nexus
sorry yellow
red is my best friend now
past copper
Hmm. Guess Junkrat’s hair doesn’t smoke anymore. Too bad, I thought that was a cool detail, but oh well
molten shore
These two lookin sick and I love it
Are these redesigns
past copper
Are these redesigns
Yes. As far as the guy who posted them showed. I’d imagine they got them from the beta
molten shore
Roadhog is alright but Junkrat really good
past copper
No. You can tell the goggle can open up
opal nexus
oooh
past copper
Definitely love Orisa’s new look. She’s come along way from being a regular security robot to the hero of Numbani
dawn tusk
personally i think that winston created his weapon to help him deal with constant racism
past copper
That makes no sense. Nobody has been racist towards Winston and inventing his weapon has nothing to do with anything like that
cerulean bridge
do you guys think any of the villains will turn good?
For example
If the ow team manages to capture widow, they can reverse the brainwashing
hearty perch
hanzo's new look is amazing
worthy rose
do you guys think any of the villains will turn good?
Maybe reaper will become himself again
worthy rose
If he didn't already after stormbreaker
molten shore
Definitely love Orisa’s new look. She’s come along way from being a regular secu...
This one's really good
past copper
Love how Efi added Lúcio style dreads to Orisa. It makes her stand out compared to her original design
molten shore
Love how Efi added Lúcio style dreads to Orisa. It makes her stand out compared ...
She is a fan of her music right
His
worthy rose
Is cass a villain?
An anti hero more fittingly
worthy rose
Don't forget the omnics
worthy rose
Bastion, Ashe, Sym, Talon?
No, bastion and symmetry aren't villains
limpid agate
So who are all the villains in total?
Reaper, Doomfist, Moira, Widowmaker, and Sombra make up Talon. Sigma is part of it too, but he doesn't know it.
Ashe is the leader of the Deadlock Gang.
Junkrat and Roadhog are international terrorists.
Those are the villains
exotic lion
aren't there more?
i mean, I'm not the smartest one when it comes to OW lore
but doesn't null sector count?
limpid agate
Yes, but they're not playable.
If you include non-playable characters, there are a few one note characters
And then Null Sector
And more Talon characters, Sanjay, Max, and Mauga
worthy rose
also if you consider it, Hanzo does run a drug empire, so he can also be classified as a villain to some extent
he also nearly killed his brother, Genji
sharp trench
Maybe reaper will become himself again
reaper seems more the type of character who's going to die in a sort of last-stand, doesnt seem like the type of person who'd let himself be captured or switch sides
worthy rose
reaper seems more the type of character who's going to die in a sort of last-sta...
That's what I am thinking, if he ends up switching sides, he will probably die trying to save the others
sharp trench
exactly; he seems like the type of person to either go big or go home on his death
fight to the death for talon probably
though, i would like to see him go rogue and kill moira
maybe an expanded list of those who has wronged him
sharp trench
cause she's a bitch
peak escarp
rude
sharp trench
i'm right though
cerulean bridge
Wait a new voice line just confirmed pharah and cassidy are joining overwatch
cerulean bridge
oh i don’t read ow comics, i thought this was new
can you get me up to date on what happens?
peak escarp
well maybe you should
Cassidy went around the world recruiting people for Overwatch
Pharah, Baptiste, Zarya and D.Va
peak escarp
yep
limpid agate
Winston, Tracer, Mei, Genji, Rein, Brig, Mercy, Echo, Sojourn, Cassidy, Pharah, Baptiste, Zarya, D.Va, Lucio, and Bastion look to be the new Overwatch team.
sharp trench
zarya in overwatch kit would be pretty cool
imagine zarya wielding the heaviest of advanced weaponry overwatch has to offer
probably doomfist-level shit
past copper
Realistically. She doesn’t need new tech. Her laser can already cut through anything as far as we’ve seen. It based on the one from Infiltration
worthy rose
though, i would like to see him go rogue and kill moira
Good chance of something similar happening
he does hate Sombra
So he might kill Sombra instead of Moira
worthy rose
fight to the death for talon probably
Thing is, he isn't loyal to Talon
he only joined it because he shares a similar interest with Doomfist in a "new world order"
sharp trench
Realistically. She doesn’t need new tech. Her laser can already cut through anyt...
yeah but like an overwatch-kitted out version or new whole weapon altogether maybe more explosive oriented could probably clear entire buildings
tall sleet
I could definitely see reaper wanting to kill sombra but i think she is far too smart to get herself in a situation where he could murder her and get away with it
Can't see him killing or wanting to kill moira
clear kestrel
yea if anything I think he'd want mercy dead more than her
peak escarp
he'd want any Overwatch agent dead
clear kestrel
yea but I'm talking in the personal grudge sense
peak escarp
why would he have a personal grudge against Mercy?
clear kestrel
isn't she the one who unintentionally made him all fucked up or is that fanon?
peak escarp
Moira O’Deorain—the mad geneticist whom he’d recruited into Blackwatch. A
choice that would prove to deliver an endless array of unintended consequences.
As Reyes drifted in and out of consciousness, Moira explained how she’d
overloaded his body with a cocktail of experimental chemicals—a juiced-up
version of the substance that had first given him the ability to manipulate his
form. She claimed he’d been close to death and she’d had no other option.
Though the scientist cloaked her motivations in the cool logic of her field, Reyes
knew she enjoyed her work more when playing with helpless test subjects.```oh
peak escarp
from Code of Violence
clear kestrel
so what the fuck did he mean by "you tell me doc" when mercy asks him what happened to him?
clear kestrel
so it was more of a sarcastic "you're smart, shouldn't you know?"
peak escarp
pretty much
clear kestrel
huh
peak escarp
and the community thought it was him accusing her of being involved
clear kestrel
do you think that might have been the intent originally?
peak escarp
no
iron plume
It was always a very weak theory
peak escarp
the writers have been pretty clear from the start that Mercy wasn't involved
iron plume
It relied on a supposedly existing second voice line that never actually existed
Something like "This isn't what I invented for you, Gabriel"
Which people claim to be removed but apparently didn't leave a trace in any game recording at the time
clear kestrel
this is some FNAF community level hoax-ery
peak escarp
both the writer and Mercy's VA don't remember that line ever existing
iron plume
yep
peak escarp
and Reaper's response was "you knew exactly what you were doing" or something
clear kestrel
even if it's fake that'd make for a pretty cool reaper/moira interaction ngl
peak escarp
it would work for them
iron plume
Moira would absolutely not say this isn't what she intended
because firstly it sure seems like she did intend it
and secondly she would never admit it if she didn't
clear kestrel
what if it's just a false platitude
peak escarp
Moira: No need to thank me. I only saved your life.```see now that's Moira
peak escarp
Moira treats him like an experiment
her upkeep of his condition is probably why he stays with Talon rather than just going off on his own
sharp trench
what i want to know is if reaper will succeed on eliminating main overwatch agents heavily established in lore
peak escarp
probably not any playable heroes
sharp trench
reaper's had to have some success, right? considering he's one of the founding members of the organization and with that comes experience, skill, knowledge and tactics, etc
would a sort of anxiety among overwatch agents about if they were next on his hitlist or whoever is next in overwatch to be killed might be a driving thing in part of expanded lore regarding reaper and his list
peak escarp
if he wasn't successful then the Overwatch agents would have no reason to fear him
sharp trench
in that case, then a sort of anxiety among overwatch agents could be a driving factor in part of the lore
peak escarp
that anxiety was what led Baptiste to seek out Mercy... except he missed her and found Cassidy instead
sharp trench
was it
peak escarp
he discovered that Talon had files on Overwatch agents, so he wanted to find Mercy to warn her
sharp trench
has baptiste even done any "evil" things
tall sleet
wasn't this also one of the points of one of the winston cinematics
peak escarp
has baptiste even done any "evil" things
he participated in Talon's terrorist attacks
tall sleet
reaper comes to kill him and gain info on overwatch agents and he does the recall
peak escarp
yeah
sharp trench
was there any other info though available to him; like did he have prior information or limited information on only some people
limpid agate
He was friends with Sombra
So
Yes
Also in the short story, he learned that Talon had files on Overwatch agents
From someone whose life he saved
peak escarp
he went for Mercy specifically because he had worked with her on a humanitarian mission in Venezuela before, so he recognized her (and hoped she would recognize him)
mighty sierra
Was there any new lore in the beta? Or are we still looking?
peak escarp
there's bits and pieces
mighty sierra
Anything juicy?
peak escarp
Sojourn's dog (as seen in the preview for the upcoming Sojourn cinematic) is a female dog named Murphy
mighty sierra
Murphy is my second favorite ow character now
peak escarp
mighty sierra
Murphy is a good boy
peak escarp
she's got cybernetic hind legs
tall sleet
that is a massive dog
peak escarp
it's perspective
mighty sierra
It looks to be wip
peak escarp
the dog is at the top of the stairs, closer to the camera
mighty sierra
So they perspective and model size is prob off
tall sleet
i prefer to believe it is just a giant dog
mighty sierra
This^
tall sleet
also this might be a dumb question but
mighty sierra
Still waiting on more ball lore
worthy rose
reaper's *had* to have some success, right? considering he's one of the founding...
Should I also mention, Reaper was basically the first main leader of Overwatch before Morrison, Sojourn and Winston
tall sleet
heroes and their overwatch 2 new base looks : are they gonna update skins to be in line with their new looks [like the cheaper recolour skins, etc] or are the cheap skins gonna keep their old base looks
peak escarp
none of the old skins will get changed
new skins in the future will use the Classic II skins as their base
mighty sierra
I find it weird Ana managed to change her biotic rifle so much
Iirc she stole it from mercy
limpid agate
She didnt steal it from Mercy
peak escarp
she stole it from Overwatch
mighty sierra
I thought mercy was livid over it because it was some prototype she was working on
limpid agate
She was livid it was made
peak escarp
Mercy was angry because the rifle used her tech - she didn't want her tech being weaponized
mighty sierra
Ohhhh
sharp trench
my question is would reaper have the audacity to walk into an overwatch facility and go shoot up the place
peak escarp
peak escarp
my question is would reaper have the audacity to walk into an overwatch facility...
he already did
mighty sierra
That’s interesting
limpid agate
There are no operating ones
sharp trench
if in the future there are
mighty sierra
I wonder what makes the anti happen then?
limpid agate
Gameplay
worthy rose
I thought mercy was livid over it because it was some prototype she was working ...
She is livid about it
sharp trench
I want a cool explanation <:HuTaoPepehands:792324507255439381>
some IFF thing maybe
sharp trench
sniper’s optic automatically designates friendly from foe by identification panels or something and switches the bullet mode as such
mighty sierra
Grandma is fast
sharp trench
evidently
tall sleet
years of practice
peak escarp
She manually changes the darts
tall sleet
ana is iconic
sharp trench
He is immortal after all
To be fair he did walk into a heavily guarded factory in Russia and shoot up the place
mighty sierra
Now that I think about how DID Moria get let into Blackwatch?
She seemed shady even then
worthy rose
To be fair he *did* walk into a heavily guarded factory in Russia and shoot up t...
I mean, he can't die
peak escarp
Reyes recruited her
worthy rose
he is immortal
tall sleet
reaper let her in secretly im pretty sure
sharp trench
it was under reyes’ authorization pretty sure
mighty sierra
That’s fitting
sharp trench
tbh i dont get why we see more armored tracked/wheeled units in overwatch, you’d think only fifty years into the future they would keep artillery and tanks around
peak escarp
peak escarp
tbh i dont get why we see more armored tracked/wheeled units in overwatch, you’d...
but those aren't as cool as lev-rims
mighty sierra
Levitating is cooler
limpid agate
We've seen mechs being used in 4 different armies
Well, 3 armies and Junkertown
No I was right the first time
4 and Junkertown
mighty sierra
US Russia Korea Japan…?
mighty sierra
Ohhh
worthy rose
China also uses the Bastion type mechs
sharp trench
personally I think heavy artillery would’ve been incredibly useful in the omnic crisis
limpid agate
China also uses the Bastion type mechs
Source
mighty sierra
It’s heavily implied I think
limpid agate
It literally isnt
mighty sierra
In the Meka background
limpid agate
Thats not China
sharp trench
tbf though overwatch would be less cool if they took a more efficient competent route with artillery and tanks
mighty sierra
I know
sharp trench
In the Meka background
Yeah, I’m pretty sure Overwatch is in a state of world peace
which brings me to another question
where are navies at
limpid agate
There is 0 suggestion that China had any type of mechs
All we have seen for China was science
Not military
And it was all interstellar science
Space Stations and Moon Bases
worthy rose
If you look at the Gwishin skin for Bastion, it talks about the lore a bit but now that I re-read it, it probably has nothing to do with China
peak escarp
they ran Horizon
mighty sierra
Ohhh
limpid agate
If you look at the Gwishin skin for Bastion, it talks about the lore a bit but n...
The Gwisin are the force of Omnics that come from the East China Sea
peak escarp
Lucheng Interstellar (who ran the Horizon Lunar Colony) is a China-based company
limpid agate
They have nothing to do with China, the country
And those Bastions were designed by Torbjorn, a Swede
worthy rose
Makes sense
mighty sierra
Btw do we know everyone that responded to the ow recall?
limpid agate
More or less
worthy rose
Most probably did
mighty sierra
Why not Torb Jack and Ana?
mighty sierra
Old man
sharp trench
would reaper receive a recall since of probably leftover overwatch technology in possession
worthy rose
Well, Gabriel and Moira are in Talon
peak escarp
would reaper receive a recall since of probably leftover overwatch technology in...
Overwatch thinks he's dead
sharp trench
I’d imagine Reaper would know about a recall
peak escarp
dead people wouldn't recieve the Recall
worthy rose
Torb is retired
Aren't all agents technically retired?
mighty sierra
That’s a stretch
sharp trench
Overwatch thinks he's dead
the message went out to everyone didnt it
worthy rose
Before the recall of course
peak escarp
Talon got the recall because there are former Overwatch agents in Talon
sharp trench
so they would
mighty sierra
Wait did Winston act shocked in the first ow2 trailer?
peak escarp
See: Mei
the recall wasn't sent to her specifically, it was just broadcast on the emergency frequency
limpid agate
It wasnt a broadcast sent to specific people
It was broadcast on an Overwatch frequency
So anyone who had access to that frequency had access to it
sharp trench
It’s a broadcast to everyone, not a phone call
worthy rose
Wait did Winston act shocked in the first ow2 trailer?
I don't think so
mighty sierra
So there is a chance Reaper could of seen the recall
sharp trench
he probably did
sharp trench
he has overwatch tech and now he knows there is a recall
mighty sierra
Also the whole Winston stuff
sharp trench
in fact id like to know if he has any insiders in the future that are ever revealed in overwatch
worthy rose
and Cassidy, I dunno about Cassidy to be honest
worthy rose
in fact id like to know if he has any insiders in the future that are ever revea...
Probably
peak escarp
Baptiste kept his gun trained on Sainclair, tracking his movements. Sainclair glanced at the revolver once, but he didn’t try to grab it from Nguyen. Instead, he activated the data pad and tapped on a file. A golden hologram of the earth popped up, rotating gently in the air. Then, a series of bright points of light began to glitter across the globe. As the earth turned, photo portraits popped up over the points of light.
No, Baptiste realized. Not portraits. Those were dossiers.
An unfamiliar voice came online. “Agents, Overwatch needs you. The world needs us now, more than ever.
Are you with me?”
“I got this message three days ago,” Sainclair said. The hologram painted his face in golden light. “It’s a recall sent to every former Overwatch agent. Someone’s trying to get the organization back together.”```Yeah Cassidy doesn’t seem like the guy to immediately jump back in
peak escarp
from What You Left Behind
sharp trench
what i want to know is why was zarya specifically sought out
mighty sierra
So that’s how bap knows
sharp trench
strong woman cool and all but what past does she have related to overwatch
peak escarp
we already know Cassidy goes back to Overwatch
mighty sierra
She’s a freedom fighter iirc
sharp trench
she’s with the russian army IIRC
peak escarp
you really should just read New Blood
sharp trench
she works for volskaya thats for sure
peak escarp
it explains everything
worthy rose
strong woman cool and all but what past does she have related to overwatch
Well, at the beginning they did fight Omnics so she went there to fight against the Omnics as well
mighty sierra
I just came back to ow
worthy rose
she works for volskaya thats for sure
She does posses tech from Volskaya
sharp trench
another thing i wanna know
mighty sierra
I don’t see Sombra ever getting caught by her
sharp trench
will overwatch ever investigate the big corporations like volskaya or the one symmetra works for
sharp trench
I don’t see Sombra ever getting caught by her
Sombra is too elusive
mighty sierra
Vishkar I could see
peak escarp
will overwatch ever investigate the big corporations like volskaya or the one sy...
maybe after they deal with Null Sector
mighty sierra
But I don’t think they know since Sym doesn’t have anything to do with Overwatch
sharp trench
I wonder what will happen to volskaya if their CEO is exposed for dealing with the omnics by sombra
sharp trench
more than that though
volskaya in map is close to the heart of the Kremlin is it not in moscow
mighty sierra
I think Volskaya are zombies fans those mechs look like Orgins robots
sharp trench
to be that close you probably have to have ties with the government closely
really closely
peak escarp
volskaya in map is close to the heart of the Kremlin is it not in moscow
it's in St. Petersburg
sharp trench
in that case nevermind
regardless though being such a huge organization
its most likely in heavy ties with the russian government being a prominent defense company
mighty sierra
I don’t think they’re to interesting
sharp trench
If it happens, will russia need to request help from overwatch if volskaya gets shut down?
mighty sierra
They’re probably just a company that gives the Russian army weapons
sharp trench
They’re probably just a company that gives the Russian army weapons
which is incredibly important to keep an army going
mighty sierra
I think Overwatch just helps out whenever tbh
peak escarp
close enough ties that Volskaya could get Sergeant Zaryanova as her personal attack dog
sharp trench
then russia will have a lot of problems if other defense companies were shut down
mighty sierra
I mean they weren’t even supposed to help out at Kings Row
So they most likely just show up whenever something happens
worthy rose
If it happens, will russia need to request help from overwatch if volskaya gets ...
Well, they can't really request help from Overwatch because it's disbanded officially
sharp trench
in the future this is saying
peak escarp
maybe after they save the world
sharp trench
Another question is how far Volskaya would go to cover up her tracks
worthy rose
even still, there would be a lot of controversy surrounding it
worthy rose
Another question is how far Volskaya would go to cover up her tracks
Considering it's a Russian organization
probably to high lengths
sharp trench
was the government even disclosed of it
worthy rose
Probably not
sharp trench
Considering it's a Russian organization
more like since its a huge corporation
worthy rose
as they would most likely shut down Volskaya if they found out they worked with omnics
worthy rose
more like since its a huge corporation
that too
sharp trench
issue is they may not be able to
unless they have other defense companies still running like UVZ
worthy rose
issue is they may not be able to
Probably not, considering that Volskaya is supplying Russia with supplies to fight he Omnics
sharp trench
can always open up old factories and crank out heavy artillery and tanks to do the work like chads
worthy rose
Yeah, you could just do that
sharp trench
why didnt anyone just use heavy artillery in the first place
did they get rid of all of it because of their peaceful humanitarian agenda or something
peak escarp
we don't have much info about what was tried against the omnics before Overwatch was made
all we know is that only Russia was successful in shutting down an omnium without Overwatch's help
sharp trench
must’ve been one clusterfuck
there has to be one really good excuse on why nobody used mechanized ground vehicles instead of mechs and dudes in armor and stuff
was the floor lava?!
peak escarp
maybe they did and it didn't work
sharp trench
no but how would it not work, the bastions had the same general facilities
machine gun/rotary cannon and other bastion artillery/tank units
peak escarp
the omnics could have outnumbered them, to the point where heavy ground artillery wasn't effective
omnics don't tire, and are highly replacable
sharp trench
at that point why mechs when you’re just taking resources out of replicating sheer necessary number
not much makes sense but it’s a video game so its just unnecessary nitpicking
peak escarp
the Sojourn novel coming out later this year will give us our first real glimpse into what the omnic crisis was like
jade root
hushed bough
Crunchy fs
If in the future, humanity comes to build robotic bodies that can feel touch and differentiate temperature, emulating the functions of a nerve terminal, technically, Genji can feel cold and that is why he needs a jacket.
Crazy theory
And it contradicts one of the comics, in which he is in Nepal and is not wearing any clothes.
opaque tundra
Genji didn't wear clothes in Nepal bc he wasn't comfortable enough in his body to consider it a body. Poor dude probably almost froze to death or his body has an internal heater. His OW2 look is more metaphoric anyway
balmy imp
there's a new interaction in OW2 beta between Reaper and Moira
Moira: "Don't die on me now, you're one of my finest experiments."
Reaper: "Flattery will get you the grave."
is this just Reaper expressing some resentment over his condition?
because he seemed kind of upset about it during Code of Violence to me. but his feelings about it and Moira might've changed over time. What do you guys think?
hidden patio
One thing that bothered me about Junker Queen was in the short she acknowledged, "going into the wasteland made me stronger than you. Therefore, as punishment, I am going to, throw you into the wasteland and thus make you, Junker King, stronger". Like I get it was symbolic and eye-for-an-eye revenge, but it just seems silly to do something that, in her mind, strengthens someone.
fringe thistle
it's still a punishment
just because you survived out in the wilderness doesnt mean some pampered city guy will
grand wedge
because he seemed kind of upset about it during Code of Violence to me. but his ...
He is still in physical pain from her experiment. He has anger issues too. I think he has no other choice than to stay in Moira’s good grace or she could still f*ck him up pretty badly. But that doesn’t mean he has to like her.
hidden patio
just because you survived out in the wilderness doesnt mean some pampered city g...
yeah.... yeah deep down I know you're right; I just took her wording really literally for some reason. Now that I think about it she did also say a Wastelander never made it the Reckoning, which would imply she's made of some tougher stuff anyway.
iron plume
I wouldn't exactly call anyone in Junkertown "pampered"
But yes the implication was that JQ was an exception rather than the rule and she didn't expect him to survive, much less come back
clear kestrel
One thing that bothered me about Junker Queen was in the short she acknowledged,...
I think it was her way of calling him weak
like, she made it out of the wasteland and took his throne
and now he's going to die out there
even IF he survives and comes back she strikes me as the type that wants that kind of challenge
fringe thistle
I wouldn't exactly call anyone in Junkertown "pampered"
But yes the implication ...
i mean he looks like he got weak from doing nothing but sit on his throne
i thought that was the implication
he’s a tyrant, he stopped getting his hands dirty when he took over
arctic field
@worthy rose can we talk about it?
past copper
You can’t deny Doomfist looks like a great villain. He’s the definition of dangerous in Overwatch
tall sleet
Yeah just by looking at his design you can tell he’s an absolute menace
Idk why I didn’t know he was a villain or part of talon before I actually took a good look at his design LOL I also just didn’t process his name doomfist
opal nexus
new doomfist lookin like a KING
past copper
Yep. I love the new look. Fitting for the man who wishes to destroy and rebuild the world
Also, I’m sure some don’t think B.O.B. got much attention, but he did. Probably rebuilt by Ashe as she said she’d do
fringe thistle
doom’s new voice is so much better
he’s a lot quieter and deeper now
he sounds really calm and intimidating
fringe thistle
they had sahr do a completely different direction
he sounds completely different
for the better
widow also has a much deeper voice now
past copper
Definitely love Soldier’s new look. He looks like a real badass now
I like how there’s more armor on his clothing. Makes sense since their world has another global outbreak because of Null Sector
teal meadow
https://twitter.com/stiickypalms/status/1541854632376471552?t=oia9biBSbTqs3kD_cmZKxA&s=19
Is Martina reaper's wife?
fringe thistle
he looks grizzled af
worthy rose
are they slowly releasing all the skins for ow2, i logged on for the first time and my noir skin is nowhere to be found
worthy rose
Hello, I'm creating this passage to inform you of why we need a Winston in a Bikini skin as of this moment. So please sit tight for the ride! During this ride i will talk about how adding a Bikini skin for Winston in OW 1 and 2 can help the community, the Discord server, and help people find themselves.
Firstly, we need to get as much content into OW 1 and 2 so that we can make the franchise more relevant and highly likeable by its community by giving them what they want. Also, We would like to increase the reliability of the Devs and the franchise.
Secondly, I would like to talk about the community revolving around the Discord server. If the Devs were to bring a Winston in a Bikini skin, this would help their reliability around the discord server and help people navigate towards the server for help incase they need assistance or want something within the game, like a fan idea.
Lastly, I would like to talk about Winston's sexuality. Creating a Winston in a bikini skin would help people find themselves by looking at one of their favorite and most unique characters within the franchise and seeing their sexualities changed. I believe this would be especially helpful for Winston since he is one of the franchise's most unique and popular character. Almost a poster child for the Franchise. Creating the Winston in a Bikini can help people find that being gay and open about what they wear can help them.
Thank you, Winston Lover.
And before any staff deletes this, I just want you to know that this is something serious. I'm yearning for a Bikini Monkey ;]
old meadow
man on a mission
peak escarp
wtf did I just read
fringe thistle
really wish people would stop trolling in here
somber yarrow
really wish people would stop trolling in here
I don't think he is trolling
worthy rose
really wish people would stop trolling in here
I'm not, this is something I'm really serious about
fringe thistle
!!shitposting
worthy rose
this could potentially add onto lore as well
sharp trench
Hello, I'm creating this passage to inform you of why we need a Winston in a Bik...
i sincerely agree
peak escarp
why on earth would Winston wear a bikini 
fringe thistle
old meadow
🧐
worthy rose
why on earth would Winston wear a bikini <:MoiraFacepalm:710408867833577562>
It would help people find themselves and add onto discord reliability since people will be more likely to turn to discord in order to find help regarding OW
fringe thistle
please just stop talking.
old meadow
dont fall for the bait
peak escarp
what
old meadow
obvious troll
peak escarp
good
past copper
Hello, I'm creating this passage to inform you of why we need a Winston in a Bik...
!!shitposting
fringe thistle
cmd is broken rn
peak escarp
there's a good reason Devs don't take fan suggestions
past copper
I see. Well, I stand by what I said regardless
past copper
there's a good reason Devs don't take fan suggestions
Bingo. Exactly
fringe thistle
why are people like this
somber yarrow
Is too.
peak escarp
it also has nothing to do with lore
fringe thistle
cringe.
past copper
Word of advice people. Don’t complain when the devs don’t listen to 99% of the community. Because people either act childish over getting beaten by other players or because they have terrible ideas.
Stop shitposting. Right now
Not all ideas are good
peak escarp
if you want it to be serious, at least pick a hero who would logically wear a bikini
past copper
Winston’s a male. A bikini is not something he would wear. END OF DISCUSSION
fickle flame
if you want it to be serious, at least pick a hero who would logically wear a bi...
So hammond
Clearly
YIKES
past copper
Okay. Am I the only one who’s starting to think we should get a ban involved here? To get rid of trolls
fickle flame
Yes
old meadow
this chat is a mess
worthy rose
Reaper will betray talon if not him sombra mark my words
fickle flame
👍
peak escarp
Reaper will betray talon if not him sombra mark my words
Sombra has already betrayed Talon
worthy rose
When
peak escarp
the Volskaya mission
worthy rose
Oh yeah that
peak escarp
she set off the alarm to blow the mission and get closer to Volskaya
worthy rose
That isn't fully betrayal
peak escarp
it shows she isn't loyal to Talon
worthy rose
Yeah
She will betray them
Let's put it like that
Sombra told max doomfits location
She knows ow is up to something
She knew he'll fail and ow will ask him where he is
peak escarp
Sombra didn't tell Max Doomfist's location
he already knew it
Max is on the Talon council
peak escarp
if anyone is likely to betray Talon, it's Max
peak escarp
What was max doing in Havana anyway
Maximilien owns a brewery there
peak escarp
I'm most curious about his part in the story going forward
peak escarp
mostly 2023
fringe thistle
she set off the alarm to blow the mission and get closer to Volskaya
i wonder if they’re gonna revisit that in ow2
also i wonder who mercy wanted max to set up a meeting with
clear kestrel
probably someone influential within talon that had ties to doomfist
or fuck maybe doomfist himself, said meeting leading to his fight with tracer, genji and winston
limpid agate
It was not a wonder
We know it was Doomfist
We saw the aftermath
!!loretweets
God dammit
Storm Rising Max: https://bit.ly/36fjxUY
After this comes Doomfist Origin
peak escarp
also i wonder who mercy wanted max to set up a meeting with
Doomfist
the whole point of the Storm Rising mission was to get Max because he knew where to find Doomfist
tall sleet
how long was doom in prison for?
peak escarp
yep
clear kestrel
I'm not sure how I feel about Orisas personality change in OW2
it's cool
but eh
especially since she still has all her OW1 voice lines
peak escarp
apparently there's a time skip between Zero Hour and the OW2 story
that would explain how Orisa has had time to develop her personality
clear kestrel
maybe
she was so cute, now she's all serious and scary
like her interaction with Tracer and Moira
fringe thistle
it's only about a year later
yet all the characters seem to have aged a lot
like moira having grey streaks in her hair now and stuff
peak escarp
Zero Hour is about a year after Recall
clear kestrel
how much of OW1s gameplay is canon actually?
peak escarp
there's an unknown amount of time between Zero Hour and the OW2 story mission
peak escarp
how much of OW1s gameplay is canon actually?
just the Archives missions
clear kestrel
well the rio mission seems to happen directly after paris
so probably not THAT long
peak escarp
the Rio mission we get in OW2 will probably be different from the version seen in 2019
peak escarp
in the Blizzconline panel they talked about possibly moving Rio to the end
clear kestrel
that'd be weird
peak escarp
clear kestrel
I'm fine with that
I just hope they don't remove the cuter parts of her personality completely
I mean Moira straight up calls her a "domineering beast" and like
mmm
opal nexus
I'm fine with that
I just hope they don't remove the cuter parts of her personal...
doubt thatll happen
she just has to put up an assertive and boastful personality as hero of numbani
gotta put fear into the villains somehow
clear kestrel
I think that could be a cool idea for character development
her learning to cut loose a little when not on the field
clear kestrel
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to make roadhogs dance emote a haka
since he's an islander
ah well
there's always Mauga I guess, he's Samoan right?
desert yacht
like her interaction with Tracer and Moira
START RUNNING
clear kestrel
holy fuck I'm so excited for the PVE stuff
I didn't watch the 2021 blizzcon OW2 section until like
now
holy fuck this is gonna be nuts
hero missions look meh but that zenyatta cutscene
tall sleet
I need to do more research on what the pve is actually gonna be about
That’s mostly what I’m excited for yet I feel like I know nothing about it!!!
clear kestrel
watch the blizzconline 2021 behind the scenes of overwatch 2 video
it basically details all we know as of now
tall sleet
ooo okay thanks mate
Idk why but I’d really love to do some missions as talon, like a team of sombra doom widow Moira etc
clear kestrel
well we might
reaper is apparently playable in hero missions which are a seperate thing that level up your heroes
so we might get a talon mission here and there
digital forum
Who are the good and bad teams on each map (Example being attack is bad on kings row because they're escorting an EMP)
clear kestrel
attack is bad on eichenwalde I'm pretty sure
I don't think people would want balderichs armor being disturbed
quiet vine
Reinhardt says "I will reclaim my master's armour!" which can be taken either way
clear kestrel
mm
opal nexus
reaper is apparently playable in hero missions which are a seperate thing that l...
everyones playable in hero missions
clear kestrel
does he say that on attack and defense?
clear kestrel
everyones playable in hero missions
yea but I'm just saying
opal nexus
theyre like the QP of pve that u do to level up i reckon
clear kestrel
the fact that reaper even has a skill tree and can be leveled up makes me think he'll get a story mission
opal nexus
pve doomfist will be very epico
clear kestrel
the fact that reaper even has a skill tree and can be leveled up makes me think ...
at least I hope so
would suck if reaper and the other villains were just relegated to "hero missions"
clear kestrel
"all the available heroes get dialogue for a given mission"
also what's interesting is that there isn't a set 4 heroes per mission
it looks like you get a choice of heroes for each one
clear kestrel
"we have multiple hero choices"
yea that's really interesting
could give the story missions a ton of replay ability
opal nexus
yea already a lot more promising than the paltry 4 heroes for each archives mission
opaque tundra
so i found an interaction on reddit between rein, zen, and genji
idk if i can link it but basically rein asked zen what he did before the crisis and zen replied that he "massaged sheep on a free-range pasture". rein asks if its true and genji says that zen doesnt tell him if its actually true or not
if its true, zen having the most mundane and weirdest job is so funny to me
cursive steppe
opaque tundra
opaque tundra
oh yeah you're right
peak escarp
he's clearly trolling
opaque tundra
so either a retcon or zen is the master of comedy
now i wanna know what zen actually did before entering the monastery
peak escarp
that's a common question in the community
clear kestrel
I like to think he had a similar experience to bastion
he just
woke up one day and was like
"guess I'm alive now"
I kinda like the headcanon that Mondatta basically created zenyatta just so he could have someone to talk too
also holy shit interactions between more than 2 heroes at once that's so fucking cool
peak escarp
I kinda like the headcanon that Mondatta basically created zenyatta just so he c...
what
opaque tundra
I've never heard that head canon before?????
clear kestrel
it was in a fic I read once so I assumed it was common
peak escarp
Mondatta has a whole order of monks
clear kestrel
my mistake clearly
peak escarp
why would he need to create one specific omnic?
clear kestrel
no like
he wanted someone that wouldn't just follow along with him
someone he could bounce ideas off of that wouldn't be afraid to contest him
opaque tundra
I mean it's an interesting idea but there's no evidence to back it up unfortunately
clear kestrel
I mean you can say that about pretty much any interpretation of Zens origins
he just kinda exists
does mondatta have any fluff material that expands on his character or is the 5 minutes of screen time he has in alive all we have?
iron plume
There's some discussions between him and Tracer in London Calling
clear kestrel
has someone compiled all the unique hero interactions yet?
like the ones between more than 2 heroes or ones that play under super specific circumstances?
opaque tundra
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/vngv77/some_ow2_voicelines_will_only...
I linked a rein Zen genji one