#lore-discussion

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fringe thistle
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dude i wanna know so bad

opal nexus
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make him robot moses or smth

fringe thistle
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that plot thread has just been dangling for years

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like bro i gotta know what happened next

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it really makes me think they had plans to do more story missions before it got scrapped

opal nexus
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"damn doomfist got his ass beat time to hide"

peak escarp
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if Null Sector had the power/resources to attack humanity on their own, they wouldn't have gone to Talon/Doomfist

fringe thistle
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for sure they probably hate all humans anyway

digital forum
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New animated short it looks like

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Cant wait

worthy rose
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I still remember this

limpid agate
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Yes.

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It seems the hero has similar tech to Hanzo and Genji

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Not some literal magical Kitsune like people kept saying

karmic turret
limpid agate
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There is no magic in Overwatch

karmic turret
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Hanzo and Genji literally form dragons

limpid agate
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Yes, that is tech. It was explicitly deconfirmed as magic

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The dragons behave near identically to Symmetra's hard light energies.

worthy rose
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Maybe the fox is a a pet hologram of some sort

limpid agate
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Could be.

peak escarp
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it is visually consistent with Hanzo's dragons

worthy rose
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I would say it’s likely considering the colour

limpid agate
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Asa Yamagami was the swordmaster for Genji and Hanzo

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So she may have access to the same tech

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Her husband likely made Genji's sword as well, which he uses to help channel his dragon

karmic turret
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Aren't they spirit dragons?

limpid agate
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That's the name of it.

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They're not literally spirit dragons

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Just like how your magic marker is not literally a magic marker

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Mr Clean's Magic Eraser does not dispell dirt from this plane of existence.

karmic turret
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Man it makes them a lot less cool now

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Ah okay so it's nanotech in hanzos tattoo and then it's embedded in genjis sword

past copper
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More or less yes

karmic turret
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I'd assume that the new fox hero shares that

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Possibly stealing it from the shimadas?

past copper
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It’s similar to Zenyatta. He’s not magic, he just has hover tech in his torso

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Actually, seems the fox hero is a support

karmic turret
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Yes

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I know

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I've theorised the ult being a sort of speed boost thingy

past copper
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Whoever they are, seem to be using what looks to be a mix of Baptiste’s and/or Lúcio’s ult and Hanzo’s ult

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But, we’ll see. I’m sure someone will bring this mysterious hero up during the event

karmic turret
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especially since she's from kanezaka

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Which is directly next to hanamura

past copper
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Well, it’s official. I’m in love with Junker Queen. I want her in the game right now lol

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She’s a total badass all around

past copper
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12 is too long a wait. She’s even more awesome than I thought. And I love she can use her knife instead of a punch melee

opaque tundra
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||I have a feeling we might see Mason Howl again. The shot of them throwing them out into the wasteland was ominous||

digital forum
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I think 22:13 with bastion has a new hero in the side bar

digital forum
past copper
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If anyone ever watched RWBY, is her axe and gauntlet giving weapon vibes

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||Also love Junkrat was the first to announce her as Junker Queen||

digital forum
opaque tundra
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It's definitely Brigitte's face

digital forum
opaque tundra
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I wanna talk about 22:23. That null sector was hunting the poor omnic guy and the omnic guy starts FLOATING

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Also the freaking giant turrets and the titan guy again. I'm so sad it was legit only 2 minutes of PvE ZenyattaCry

past copper
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Bro. There’s gonna be an actual Null Sector Titan like from Zero Hour. I’m both scared and hyped

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I actually thought to myself, would they bring that back as an enemy and they did

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It does make sense to bring it back. No way Null Sector only had one of those things

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||You know what be cool. If that giant magnet was fixed and activated on Junkertown ||

peak escarp
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that sounds like it would be annoying

past copper
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I meant for a PvE, but given the circumstances, it might only be in Hero Missons

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They did say they wanted to add like a hundred different kinds of Hero Missions, so after seeing that in action, it’s a possibility on that map

opaque tundra
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It's been a year and they only showed 3 minutes of PvE. I wanna see more talents and clips of the completed cinematics

past copper
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Also, looks like I was wrong and Hammond was in Junkertown longer than expected

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At least before Wastelander

peak escarp
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at least there was confirmation that PvE is still coming

opaque tundra
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Yeah didn't Hammond hide his identity in Junkertown?

peak escarp
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which should shut up some of the deniers

past copper
opaque tundra
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No like I swear they just retconned the secret identity part. I gotta reread his bio on the site

past copper
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I don’t think he ever actually hid his identity. Because it looks like they wouldn’t have accepted him if he was a machine (his mech)

peak escarp
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Hammond modified his escape pod to enter the lucrative mech battle arena of the Scrapyard. Working his way up the ranks, "Wrecking Ball" went from contender to champion, though the pilot's identity remained a mystery to all. Gathering his winnings, Hammond was able to upgrade his mech enough to survive the dangerous trek out of the Junker-controlled Outback.

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looks like his identity didn't stay a secret from everyone

past copper
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The Queen certainly found out. She’s much smarter than you thought

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Still, seems Hammond can act a little big headed. I’d imagine he’d reveal who he is just to make the fighters feel ashamed to have lost to a hamster lol

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But it would also probably make them wanna try harder at beating him

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Also, seems Junker Queen is gonna have two designs already, because you can actually see her appearance change over the course of her rule

grizzled root
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Winston has a new voice actor so - is overwatch 1 taking place earlier? he sounds much younger

peak escarp
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he doesn't have a new voice actor

grizzled root
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whaaaa

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sounds completely different

peak escarp
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where?

grizzled root
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the OW2 release date trailer

opal nexus
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thats not him talking

peak escarp
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Winston didn't speak in the trailer

grizzled root
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lmao

opal nexus
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thats his father figure harold winston

peak escarp
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did you mean Zenyatta?

past copper
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That’s not them talking. Those are characters from different animated shorts

grizzled root
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OH

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It's Harold Winston, not Winston

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his human daddy scientist

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my bad

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oopsie

crisp hearth
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Was Hammond in the cinematic?

grizzled root
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the subtitles have a [Harold Winston]

past copper
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As a cameo

crisp hearth
limpid grail
past copper
crisp hearth
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Such a tease they didn’t reveal soldiers badass beard

peak escarp
grizzled root
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oh wow, hammond is australian?

past copper
past copper
grizzled root
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from space?

past copper
crisp hearth
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Hamster that fell from space into an apocalyptic Australia

grizzled root
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he must've thought the whole earth is just this

past copper
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He know there’s more to Earth, but willingly lives in Junkertown as one of the champions in the arena

grizzled root
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but he can't speak due to vocal cords?

past copper
crisp hearth
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I really hope genji and hanzo has some moments in PVE

past copper
grizzled root
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Did the Shimada clan have any other living members?

crisp hearth
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Maybe they find out genji is still alive or something

young roost
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Where is Hammond now?

peak escarp
past copper
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I think

young roost
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uh

limpid grail
peak escarp
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last we saw of him was leaving Junkertown at the end of his origin trailer

young roost
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Well then where will he end up? Cuz I have reason to believe he’s on the search for winston

peak escarp
past copper
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Well, this is a super smart hamster with a battle mech. Where would he go in the world

crisp hearth
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I hope sigma gets lore

balmy imp
peak escarp
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yep

young roost
crisp hearth
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Mfw they make one of the most interesting characters and never expand it

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Hope he gets a comic some time at least

young roost
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I mean hopefully

past copper
grizzled root
peak escarp
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what does that even mean

young roost
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I mean yeah true but it seems that he was okay with being alongside winston since winston was the only one like him in intellect and the only one not revolting against the colony.

past copper
young roost
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He just couldn’t because the cable broke off connecting their pods

crisp hearth
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I feel like mauga is probably the new tank dropping in December

young roost
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Listen there’s two people who like sigma in this world:
The ones who like him barefoot or the ones who don’t

crisp hearth
past copper
young roost
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Well either way, he will probably reunite with winston at some point

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It be real cute too.

past copper
limpid grail
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i think hammond will fit into overwatch by maybe wanting to help winston as he helped him escape, i dunno tho just my theory

past copper
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Which leads me to think they never really knew each other on Horizon

peak escarp
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    Wrecking Ball: *Squeaks*
    Winston: What?! Well that explains the drag when I lifted off! I was sure that my calculations were correct.```
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    Wrecking Ball: *Squeaks*
    Winston: You're right, that would be much worse.```
young roost
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See? They’re friendly for the most part in game

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In canon I’m pretty sure winston would be happy to see hammond again

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Not to mention Hammond can provide a lot for the team.

frank siren
young roost
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That web dude…I hope one day we see how big it actually is

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I also love the interactions with baptiste

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The fact that Sombra actively warns Bap about Mauga coming for him shows she is good inside.

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I know for a fact all hell will break lose when he shows up to get back at him…

peak escarp
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She values her friends

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what few she has

young roost
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It also seems like she’s more than willing to be friends with ashe

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In return..for embarrassing stories about mcree

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Fair trade honestly.

cosmic crest
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The implication is that she is friends with, or at least knows Cassidy

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Not Ashe

young roost
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The interaction with moira and sombra is a bit unnerving since Moira seems more than willing to experiment on omnics

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God moira is such a great villain

past copper
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Anyone else think Geiger and Meri would make good heroes?

peak escarp
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maybe

fringe thistle
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i do think it’s hilarious Sombra, of all people, doesn’t know who Sam or Sojiro are

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“Pharah’s father or sibling”
“Shimada leader”

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lmao

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now this right here though…this is interesting. how is reinhardt connected to the iris…

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very strange

peak escarp
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that's not the Iris

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we don't know what that omnic is

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whoever labeled this chart guessed wrong

cosmic crest
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It was edited on

fringe thistle
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ohh no wonder it looks so sloppy

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still very curious that reinhardt is linked to the iris though

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if indirectly

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or whatever that eye is supposed to represent

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i wonder why rein is linked to that omnic

opaque tundra
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I think if there's any symbol that symbolizes the Iris the shambali symbol would be used

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Unless we're talking about a different iris bc I have no idea where you guys are going with this conversation. We don't know what the eye net conspiracy is and we might never find out. Who knows

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I might as well throw this all out there but I personally believe that the Iris or more specifically Aurora's sacrifice and omnic sentience is connected to the beginning of the omnic crisis and null sector and all that. The tidbit in deadlock rebels about bob leaving during the omnic crisis and coming back with sentience is a huge hint towards it all and the fact that talon wants Zen for something can't be a simple "create conflict blah blah blah"

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Like I REALLY wanna know what the omnics leaving is all about

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I'm considering developing an actual theory if we get more lore before pve comes out lol

timid eagle
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In the Junker Queen cinematic, it's interesting that Wrecking Ball/Hammond was part of her army in that montage.

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I thought that only her and Bruce knew about Hammond's true identity, as wasn't it a secret that Wrecking Ball is piloted by a hamster for the citizens of Junkertown?

peak escarp
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it only said that nobody knew his identity before becoming champion

timid eagle
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Oh.

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So they're just cool with a teddy bear-sized hamster among their clan?

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Man, I feel like a stupid dummy.

fringe thistle
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junkertown only hates omnics tbh

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because their omnium exploded and all they’ve ever known is omnic wars

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they probably think an intelligent hamster is hilarious

opaque tundra
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It's probably also just for comedic effect

limpid agate
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Yes, it will. And this is the wrong channel to ask that.

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This is Lore Discussion

hexed ether
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It's canon

limpid agate
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No, it's not

hexed ether
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pshh we all know he does

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It's also canon

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Anytime Star with smile

karmic turret
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What's this then?

peak escarp
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the Iris is also the thing the Shambali believe in

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which is why Echo got renamed, to avoid confusion

karmic turret
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I'm not saying iris is the confirmed name

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Since most of the stuff on that image above was written on

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But it definitely looks somewhat like an early design of echo

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Just like how brig had used one of her comic designs

limpid agate
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@karmic turret Yes, its an early name for her.

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But its not relevant as an early name anymore either

karmic turret
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Yes

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I know

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I was purely talking about the design of the omnic looking similar to early echo concepts

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Most specifically this one

limpid agate
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Yes

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That was her

trail furnace
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hi

night sable
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Hi

tall sleet
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in moiras new look for overwatch 2, it shows her whole damage arm looking absolutely busted

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i thought that it might have just been her hand but it looks like

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the whole arm was affected by whatever experiments she conducted on herself

edgy plank
tall sleet
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yerr

opaque scroll
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Those were shown to be in that Rio mission in that blizz event where they had xqc and some other people, werent they

So it'd be reasonable to think some of the missions will.

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Hahahaha nah dude thats probably gonna be somewhere in 2023

karmic turret
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I don't expect any pve till 2023

opaque scroll
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I mean that's kinda what they said in the reveal broadcast

opaque tundra
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Praying for pve in February and not in July or something. I wanna talk for hours and see discussions flying in here

karmic turret
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I think it'll be around April time.

balmy imp
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not sure if previous art can be considered canon

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but the earlier versions of her arm show that it went up to her elbow

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actually, after checking, I'm not sure. But if the Oasis skin is considered canon, then there weren't any visible changes to it yet

limpid agate
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Introducing Junker Queen

Watch her short, The Wastelander, here: https://youtu.be/8-nXN9ZMl8o

Discover the origin story of Junker Queen's rise to the throne of Junkertown in our animated short: The Wastelander!

Overwatch 2 arrives October 4 free to play on Windows® PC and Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, PlayStation®5, PlayStation®4, and Nintendo Switch™ consoles.

Can’t wait that long? Get a chance to play as Junker Queen in Overwatch 2 dur...

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opaque scroll
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Brig's or rein's, (whichever way you interpret) abilities on a character looking like S76 WinstonThink these concepts wildin

floral venture
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Are Bap and Sombra friends?

peak escarp
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they seem to be

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Baptiste has an app on his phone that's a direct line to her

floral venture
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Didn’t she help him find mercy too ?

peak escarp
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yep

timid minnow
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Bap and sombra have a ton of similarities, I am thinking Bap’s decision to join overwatch will influence sombra a lot.

neon aurora
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We stan Bap and Sombra

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I honestly think Sombra isn't even Evil.. and I can see her joining Overwatch or being on the sidelines helping them for her own personal gain.. but yeah

fringe thistle
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lmao he doesnt just have her number?

peak escarp
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it's an encrypted app

limpid agate
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Excluding Sigma for obvious reasons

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Sombra is the least antagonistic of Talon's members

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And also the least loyal

vestal stratus
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did u know that mei got ran over as a child

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read that somewhere

opaque scroll
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gonna need a source for that

peak escarp
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!!shitposting @vestal stratus

twilit nacelleBOT
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@vestal stratus Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

daring tree
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I reckon the lore is inaccurate tbh

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Not incorporating facts like that

past copper
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It’s not a fact

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Wherever they read that is clearly fiction

vestal stratus
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some guy told me that

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sounded believeable

past copper
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Anyone can make anything sound believable

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Doesn’t make it true

vestal stratus
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they were very convincing

past copper
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Do you believe everything you read from a label or tv commercial?

vestal stratus
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yes

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why wouldnt i

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whats the point in lying

past copper
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In the cases of those things. One word. Money. Nough said

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Regardless, if Mei was ran over as a “kid” she’d be dead

vestal stratus
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nah just put in hosbital

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hospital

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thats why she wanted to be good person

past copper
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Hospital can’t cure death

vestal stratus
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she didnt do die

daring tree
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I’m neutral but you don’t always die from being run over

fringe thistle
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why y’all shitposting in here

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can u dont

vestal stratus
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we are just discussing lore jeez

past copper
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Idk. They clearly think they’re comedians

vestal stratus
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why can i ask tho

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i thought thats what this channel was for :(

past copper
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Mei never got ran over. A kid surviving getting run over is 5%. These are facts

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This channel if for lore

vestal stratus
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lucky her

past copper
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Not ridiculous fan fiction

daring tree
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5% is not facts - it depends on variables such as speed of teh vehicle and weight

sharp trench
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you can get ran over by a 15 ton armored personnel carrier and come out mostly fine

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ran over being literally ran over by the wheels

daring tree
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Exactly

past copper
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Why are we even discussing this nonsense? Mei never got ran over as a kid and the guy who F8Lx heard this from clearly just told them that to make them sound silly

limpid agate
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!!shitposting @vestal stratus

twilit nacelleBOT
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@vestal stratus Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

vestal stratus
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what have i done now

past copper
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For claiming something false as truth in lore discussion

daring tree
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Maybe he was asking about it?

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It is a ‘discussion’

past copper
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Doesn’t sound like asking

daring tree
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They might be putting up for discussion

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You don’t know that

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Keep an open mind

vestal stratus
peak escarp
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she didn't get run over as a child

daring tree
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This is how communities die

limpid agate
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They were told, multiple times

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She wasnt run over

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Carrying it on how it was isn't discussion. its just shitposting

dire flame
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hello, can someone tell me how long rienhart is canonically

hasty merlin
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like height?

dire flame
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no

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length

past copper
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!!shitposting @raw ivy

twilit nacelleBOT
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@raw ivy Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

raw ivy
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i don’t get it

timid minnow
raw ivy
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ok

nova sphinx
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This channel is not meant for shit posting

cerulean pilot
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Only warning, this is for

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Ah

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😁

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As you were.

nova sphinx
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Haha hey Roup

worthy rose
inner marsh
fringe thistle
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just now realized that was a dick joke

fringe thistle
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@ mod scammer

limpid agate
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You have to DM Modmail

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Not make a useless @ mod message

floral venture
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Does anyone know what hanzo was doing during the events of Ow1 that made him so “depressed” in Ow2 because in some of his voice lines in Ow2 he seems really defeated

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I could be wrong though

quiet vine
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we havent had much, if literally any, lore of him since 'Dragons'

floral venture
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Dang

quiet vine
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genji is the favourite brother

floral venture
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Fan favorite you mean or is he actually

quiet vine
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fan favourite, dev favourite

floral venture
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Yeah i enjoy him a lot but cannot play him for my life

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Do you know how ashe and cassidy met ?

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all i know is Ashe picked him up from a farm

quiet vine
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in the novel Deadlock Rebels, iirc, they first met in a holding cell and then she picked him up at a farm
my memory could be wrong

floral venture
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Ohh thanks

quiet vine
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i recommend reading/listening to it

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the voice actor of Ashe reads it as an audio book and apparently does a good Cassidy impression

opal nexus
floral venture
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Oh

brave hedge
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hmmmmmmmm

quiet vine
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yeah finding out that your dead brother who you mourned for so long isnt actually dead and you didnt actuall kill him... that'd be a punch in the gut

unique spade
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junker queen's lore is so good

limpid agate
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The origin short introduced some interesting story about renegade outback omnics, and a group of 5 large omnics that she destroyed

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I wanna see more of that

limpid burrow
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Want larger faction groups we now have junkers and wastlanders

cosmic crest
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The junkers are at least a bit more significant now that they have 3 heroes to represent them

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I hope they do the same with Vishkar and Helix

quiet vine
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technically 4 if you count hammond

limpid agate
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Which... Should count now

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Previously we just thought he was a wanderer who became champ and not an actual Junker himself

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But the short really presents him as a major player and part of the Queen's inner circle

past copper
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You know, we seem to have a few groups divided in Junkertown

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Scrapers
Tinkers
Wastelanders

magic tide
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what are your guy's predictions for how the kanezka fox girl ties into the shimada brothers story?

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since she'll be apart of that thing .

karmic turret
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stolen and repurposed tech from the shimada clan

magic tide
cosmic crest
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She might be working with Hanzo

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Asa's letter mentioned multiple vigilantes

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Her daughter and Hanzo could be them

past copper
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Hanzo’s not a vigilante. He’s on the run from everyone his clan has sent to kill him

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As to the fox girl. I’m not sure what to think of her hardlight fox that we saw, but I can guess some weapons she may have. How they’re designed to fit Overwatch, one can only guess.

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I do hope maybe something like either a pair of tessen. Steel razor edged fans

peak escarp
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Hanzo is a mercenary, which is basically the same thing

magic tide
peak escarp
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Asa Yamagami, Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster

past copper
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I certainly like what I’m seeing with our mystery support’s ult, but I’m curious to know what else we can expect from them

merry bison
merry bison
storm gate
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Dunno if someone has already mentioned this, but Junker Queen's first name, Odessa, shares the same name as a Ukranian place which was called that cause the ruler at the time was heavily inspired by Homer's Odyssey. So with The Wastelander cinematic, I think it's a cool parallel how Odysseus and Dez both left their homes, went through several ordeals, and came back home several years later to rule over it.

peak escarp
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it's a great parallel

mighty sierra
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So is ball just vibing in junkertown right now? Or did he leave after a while ik theres orgins skins and he was seen in the story but he just kinda seems there lol

peak escarp
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he left

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we don't know where he is since leaving

mighty sierra
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I want my hamster

past copper
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So. Anyone got any ideas where Junkertown, Mason Howl, and Junker Queen all fit into the Overwatch timeline?

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We’ve got 13 years to work with there

peak escarp
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apparently there was a description of the short that says Junker Queen has ruled Junkertown for a decade

peak escarp
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"a decade" could be 10 years or it could be rounding

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her song also says "fought the world since seventeen"

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so maybe she was 17 during that fight, and is 27 now

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or was she 17 when she started fighting in general and was in her 20s when she fought Howl (making her 30-something now)

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we won't know until we get her age

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I wish she was older

past copper
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Well, you can at least see the difference between her age in Wastelander and how she looks in the game

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Honestly, doesn’t look like more than a couple of years have passed

peak escarp
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physical appearance isn't a very good indicator of how long has passed

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people dont visually age much between their 20s and 30s

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and Blizzard's art style makes everyone look younger than they should

past copper
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We’ll see, but I’m betting she’s at least in her late twenties. Maybe 28 give or take

grand wedge
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She says she fought since she's 17. Makes sense, the Outback seems Mad Max crazy wild. She was cast out roughly 13 years ago, because Mason threw her family out. Maybe when he became the King? She looks 10-12 on the screenshot :

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So when she defeat him, she is maybe 23-25 years old, top.

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And she rules Junkertown for 10 years, so now, she is 33-35 years old. Which kinda fit her look IMO

past copper
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You know, I just thought of this, but with environmental changes, I’d love to see Junkertown hit with a dust storm

opal nexus
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yooo radstorms from fallout

iron plume
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This isn't a radstorm, just a regular old desert sandstorm

opal nexus
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i know im just remarking on ryu's comment

sudden condor
opal nexus
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yeah theyre mainly gonna be a pve thing methinks

limpid agate
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They did acknowledge that Mutants exist

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For what its worth

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There is now the possibility Roadhog is one, since we have never seen them

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And also never seen him

past copper
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Well we can’t rule out the possibility of mutant animals either

limpid agate
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Probably more likely

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But Roadhog being a mutant is a nonzero possibility

past copper
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Feral Omnics, mutant animals, and wasteland raiders

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I can already see some fun hero missions using those things now

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It also sounded like she set up possible hero mission bosses

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Five Metal Demons of the Burning Lands

peak escarp
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doesn't the story say she defeated them?

past copper
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It does. But really, I think she might be exaggerating only a little to tell an epic story

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Regardless, I’m curious to know more about those feral Omnics

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You gotta wonder if they’re the remains from the Omnium they destroys years ago

peak escarp
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the remains of the omnium is Junkertown

past copper
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Maybe. But that doesn’t mean the Omnics couldn’t have been from there

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It was gifted to them after the crisis after all

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So it was probably supposed to be building normal Omnics until it was destroyed

peak escarp
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yes

past copper
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At the least, it probably managed to build hundreds of Omnics that escaped into the unforgiving outback and became feral

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Honestly makes me wonder, is there another Omnic group hiding in the Australian Outback?

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You got the Shambali, Null Sector, and the Gwishin. So another group of Omnics isn’t unlikely

limpid agate
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Is Bastion the first Omnic member of Overwatch?

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It's not Echo

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She's not an Omnic

peak escarp
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depends if Bastion officially joins or not

limpid agate
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We have disproportionately few omnic heroes

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The last one was Orisa, and she was 3rd

peak escarp
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still waiting for a villain omnic

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so far they've all been good-aligned

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fingers crossed for Null Hector

worn island
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Did masterian (the youtuber) come up with that nickname or were people already using it?

peak escarp
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it's been used among the community for a while

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I first saw it on twitter

sudden condor
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i mean he does not seem to have alot of attack moves

worn island
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All we've seen of him is putting down his hood wdym

sudden condor
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i'd like to see Meri from the junkerqueen animation tho

peak escarp
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Meri

sudden condor
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yeah

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she got a good moveset grapple, rocket launcher, charge and for primary attack claw

tight scarab
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Rip Mondatta😔

past copper
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I just noticed this. Hammond’s Junker mech is now canon

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Really, never actually noticed that

peak escarp
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it was already

past copper
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Well, we knew his mech there was. But now we also know it was the full skin too

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He really did dress like a Junker

distant bluff
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Wasn’t it confirmed that his pod broke off from winston’s and he landed in Junker town and joined junker queen?

peak escarp
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yep

distant bluff
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It’s one of the skins that have descriptions so it’s lore

peak escarp
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having a description on a skin doesn't make it a canon skin

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Junker D.Va has a description

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Sherlock Cassidy has a description

distant bluff
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True but there’s also that the skin was in his origin story

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On the topic of characters in origin stories, I wonder if geiger will become a hero at some point, and maybe even meri

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From the wastelander cinematic

peak escarp
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probably not

distant bluff
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Yeah, but there’s still hoping

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I’m wondering how the fox support is gonna work

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Or their lore

peak escarp
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this is connected to her

distant bluff
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It does mention a kitsune

mighty sierra
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Blizzard saw fallout and said they wanted that and made Australia radioactive

peak escarp
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I think Mad Max is a bigger influence

mighty sierra
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I think the designs came from mad max

past copper
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Literally more Mad Max than anything else

opal nexus
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so its just the outback thats like this right?
places like sydney are doing just fine?

peak escarp
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yes

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that's Sydney

past copper
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The size of the Outback

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Luckily, Junkertown is located in Central Australia, which is in the Northern Territory

worn juniper
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Hi Does anyone know the time period between overwatch going underground to being supported in the overwatch 2 short zero hour?

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I trying to make fanfic of a overwatch crossover so i trying to get a good timeline set.

opaque tundra
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Overwatch was disbanded 5 years ago and overwatch 2 begins a year after the present time so there's roughly 6ish years between overwatch 1 and 2 if that helps

worn juniper
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@opaque tundra Do you know where the shorts take place in the timeline?

opaque tundra
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I have no idea about recent shorts but I know there was an image of a timeline that was shown at an event or something but it's outdated

worn juniper
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@opaque tundra Thanks for help this lore is confusing

opaque tundra
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I believe it's in the bottom link in pinned messages

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Just check pinned messages it's very useful

worn juniper
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Thanks but is it from past to present ?

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Does anyone know what time each hero joined reborn overwatch in order?

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I check the pinned message it don't have what i was looking for

opaque tundra
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New blood shows how Cassidy recruits some heroes and then there's Zero Hour

grand wedge
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We know that Lucio and Sojourn are going to join but it’s going to be told in the PVE in 2023

brave ravine
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maybe that was only true at first?

limpid agate
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Still true for Junkrat

worn juniper
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@grand wedge What comic ? and what the time between zero hour and the comic?

worn juniper
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And is Overwatch still outlawed or they can still privately?

grand wedge
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Enjoy and have fun!

worn juniper
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@grand wedge Thanks i look into where i could get it

grand wedge
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In the link just above 🙂

worn juniper
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Thank You

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I just have one more question is overwatch still outlawed in world or they run privately?

grand wedge
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They didn't expand on that point really. It seems it's kinda run privately, but it's still not sure on the outlaw part of it

worn juniper
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Since it say i forgot where that goverment banned overwatch action and anyone from overwatch who still was active were outlawed?

grand wedge
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peak escarp
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hopefully they will address this in the story

worn juniper
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Thanks For the link and the help @peak escarp @grand wedge

past copper
peak escarp
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the Blizzconline panel indicated that it was still part of the story

past copper
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But the law can’t just turn a blind eye on something deemed illegal by the UN

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Even if Overwatch is saving the world

fringe thistle
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they'll probably revoke that because of null sector 2.0

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the world needs overwatch again

cosmic crest
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Not nececarily

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The UN will probably task Helix with handling Null Sector

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I think some individual nations might choose to support Neo Overwatch though, such as South Korea

fringe thistle
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i hope thats what its actually called

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or at least a new prefix/suffix

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just calling it Overwatch again doesnt feel right

cosmic crest
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I'm quite sure they'll just be called Overwatch
I only reffer to them as Neo Overwatch for ease of understanding when discussing the lore
That and the word Neo is fun to use

opal nexus
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the average old overwatch fan: CORRUPT, LOVES KILLING TIN CANS, TOO AMBITIOUS
the average neo overwatch enjoyer: saves the world because no one will, so charming and optimistic that they will literally ask anyone for help
LOVES KILLING TIN CANS

fringe thistle
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i just wanted them to be called something like that for ease of differentiation

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instead of saying "old overwatch"

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idk

peak escarp
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oldverwatch and newverwatch

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why would you need to differentiate them?

past copper
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Gotta say, D.Va looks great with her redesign

past copper
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Because what you’re reporting isn’t shitposting

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D.Va’s redesign is lore

worthy rose
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I can't tell if that's her new default or some new skin

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Because of the esports decals on her mech

past copper
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It’s her default new look

worthy rose
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So esports exists in the overwatch world

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I suppose its just a collective term for gaming sports

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I like that it says GREMLIN on her mech as well

past copper
#

Yes. E-sports exists in Overwatch

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Of which Hana has won several trophies from competitions

worthy rose
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Ik that much. Just assumed the esports decal was branding

past copper
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It is. Hana has several sponsorships so branding is normal

worthy rose
opal nexus
#

they were probably referring to like
RL branding

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then again this is the same universe that retconned starcraft from existence

grand wedge
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Dva played Starcraft with her dad.

opal nexus
#

oh true

honest berry
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And Dva is a police officer??

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And a bee?

opal nexus
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d.va will probably look like that in the actual story missions tho

honest berry
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Playing as B.Va in story would be funny

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Make it official lore

jovial spade
peak escarp
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some represent parts of the hero's backstory

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some are just silly costumes

quiet vine
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@peak escarp dunno if its been posted already yet, but with today's Junker Queen Gameplay Trailer, you can see new looks in more detail like Soldier, Ana, Roadhog, and Junkrat who we havent seen yet

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I can post image links

peak escarp
quiet vine
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aye there's a good one

peak escarp
#

we've seen Roadhog before

quiet vine
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we have, its good to get different angles though

fringe thistle
#

wtf junk looks like he’s been to rehab

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he actually looks so much healthier

peak escarp
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well, he did leave Junkertown...

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time out in the real world has been good for him

fringe thistle
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his hair is no longer singed and he’s not covered in soot anymore

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bro went to therapy and took his normal pills

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well ok his face still looks a little crazy but i like this character development

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his and roadhog’s gadgets no longer look scrapped together either, i wonder what that means in context of lore. his rip tire looks much more sophisticated and high tech than the pile of junk it was in ow1

light isle
fringe thistle
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i wonder if he found a place to pursue his inventing passion

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i always got the impression he was secretly a genius who just acts really dumb, like he did built fully functional weaponry out of pure junk

light isle
#

He could work for torbjorn

fringe thistle
#

id actually love to see him join the ironclad guild

light isle
#

Lol yeah

fringe thistle
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him wearing goggles on his head really makes me think he’s a serious blacksmith now

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his frag launcher looks the exact same as ow1 though, unsure if they just haven’t finished the new one or if that IS the new one

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since his rip tire is so upgraded i hope that’s just the ow1 launcher as placeholder

past copper
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Do that’s my boy’s Junkrat new look! I’m love it! He looks like an even bigger badass

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Also love the goggles and swept back hair

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A nice little touch too is that his goggle lenses are different colors.

past copper
#

I said D.Va’s OW2 redesign is lore

karmic turret
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theres lore skins

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and then silly skins

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and esports skins

vestal stratus
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Idk what u mean pink spark Hammond is defo lore

past copper
vestal stratus
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Its called a joke man jesus

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Lighten up

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This community is dead because of this

past copper
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It’s not a dead community and this is serious discussion about lore

tall sleet
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would mayhem and junker hammond be cannon though

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"wrecking ball climbed the ranks to become the champion of the scrapyard, junkertown's mech combat arena"

vestal stratus
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People don't have any sense of humour these days, everyone's so serious and dry

tall sleet
#

lots of games would dream to have the playerbase overwatch currently has
that's not to say that overwatch is even nearly as active as it was, though

past copper
tall sleet
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but i agree i don't think a little joke needs to be immediately shut down even if this is a "serious" channel BLA BLA

vestal stratus
#

Its not called serious lore discussion

tall sleet
#

anyways pink mayhem hammond cannon or not methink it is

vestal stratus
#

Its lore discussion

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So chill out

tall sleet
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the channel description says [serious]

vestal stratus
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I stand corrected

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Never noticed that

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I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, but its not a crime to be a little light hearted mate

past copper
tall sleet
#

but would his junker skin be cannon?

past copper
#

His Junker skin is canon

tall sleet
#

in my heart mayhem is cannon then

past copper
fringe thistle
#

he was in the short

rough viper
#

I wonder if there will be a skin of junker Hammond

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I hope so

fringe thistle
#

wym?

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he’s already in the game lol

#

been there since he launched

rough viper
#

Wait really?

tall sleet
#

It is indeed

peak escarp
#

it's my favourite

tall sleet
#

thats why i brought it up LOL

fringe thistle
#

its been there forever lol

rough viper
#

I forgot there was one tbh

tall sleet
#

look at his little mohawk

fringe thistle
#

horizon hammond is also canon

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i think

tall sleet
#

what are some other canon skins in ow that aren't their like .. default skin

fringe thistle
#

all the archives skins

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like the pve skins

tall sleet
#

ngl i hate all of the "talon" skins except baptistes! sombra and widow don't look as good as usual

peak escarp
#

not all the archives skins

fringe thistle
#

uprising and retribution

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and the talon skins yea

fringe thistle
tall sleet
#

bastet and shrike ana cannon?

fringe thistle
#

both yup

peak escarp
#

yes

fringe thistle
#

both are aliases ana used in cairo

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tho im not sure if thats actually how they look in canon

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in canon “shrike” ana is default ana with a mask

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not the purple recolor

tall sleet
#

ik shrike ana was in one of sombras videos

fringe thistle
#

have no idea whats up with bastet

tall sleet
#

in her little uhhhh web of info

fringe thistle
#

im guessing the bastet skin we have in game is not accurate either

peak escarp
#

the skin was designed for the story

fringe thistle
#

so is it literally a recolored version of her default outfit

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like in canon

#

does she just have 2 versions of that gun and her coat

peak escarp
#

I guess

fringe thistle
#

thats why i think lore related epics are confusing lol

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but yeah this is what i meant by shrike ana not being accurate

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an accurate shrike would be her default outfit with a mask, which i think shouldve been her default anyway im ngl

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like how soldier has a mask

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would be cool if she was actually referred to in game as "Shrike" instead of "Ana" too tbh

tall sleet
#

until now i didnt realize anas coat had holes in it

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idk why that upsets me but it does

quaint shoal
#

I don’t know if this is classified as lore, but isn’t there going to be a campaign in overwatch 2?

peak escarp
#

yep

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the campaign is the big selling point of OW2

quaint shoal
#

But isn’t it free?

peak escarp
#

"selling" as in, reason to play it

quaint shoal
#

Ah I see

peak escarp
#

but it was taking longer than expected, so they decided to separate it from the PvP and launch that early

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the PvE will be out some time next year

tall sleet
#

o unrelated to this discussion

#

but why does mercy look so young compared to her other overwatch members? is it cause of her like

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knowledge of science and health etc etc

peak escarp
#

because she's only 37

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she is young

green wyvern
#

shes pretty young by overwatch standards

tall sleet
#

oh damn i thought she was a founding member of overwatch

peak escarp
#

she's not in the same generation as Ana and Reinhardt and Soldier

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she's in the middle generation, like Cassidy, Genji and Tracer

tall sleet
#

ooh okay that makes much more sense

fringe thistle
#

there are other inconsistencies with in game skins as well

#

im pretty sure blackwatch genji is supposed to have a prototype model of the shuriken he uses in the present day instead of what he has in game, but its just to spice up the in game skin ig

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also that took forever to send, wow discord

peak escarp
#

the skins aren't 100% lore accurate

fringe thistle
#

yeah

peak escarp
#

but many of them do reference the lore

green wyvern
#

i generally dont like to associate any of the skins with lore if i can since overwatch is fully noncanon

fringe thistle
#

im pretty sure cassidy had the same revolver he uses now when he was in the deadlock gang

#

but the deadlock skin has a diff pistol

#

i think deadlock ashe is probably the only skin thats like 100% lore accurate since it has the exact same rifle model, which is a family heirloom

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there are other ones that are clear references but not the exact appearance

#

i think crusader and balderich rein might be completely accurate though

peak escarp
#

the game version has to include the armor/shoulder pads for his silhouette

fringe thistle
#

yep

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they added all that extra junk to him to match the silhouette

#

highkey want this as a skin tho

#

the color palette on his outfit is so slick

#

maybe when they finally decide to go back to lore skins for archives lol

peak escarp
#

I think this is the closest you'll get

limpid agate
#

Thats not close

fringe thistle
#

i really hope not

peak escarp
#

Archives is dead anyway

fringe thistle
#

i know thats a very loose interpretation but thats barely even a reference

peak escarp
#

events as we knew them are pretty much dead, replaced by seasons

fringe thistle
#

like its not even the same color palette

peak escarp
#

his hair is the same, that's about it

fringe thistle
#

pretty much

#

well i hope they do lore skins still

peak escarp
#

they could still do lore-themed seasons

fringe thistle
#

they could keep doing the weekly challenges i wouldnt mind, just please dont make them exclusive

#

deadlock ashe being exclusive makes me lose my mind

tall sleet
#

I feel like a lot of the challenge skins will come back with the battlepasses

fringe thistle
#

...oh nah

#

there would be a riot if they brought back old stuff for a battle pass

#

not a great move

#

just add them to the shop imo

tall sleet
#

yerr that too

fringe thistle
#

wtf im shocked

#

symmetra's viskar skin is actually accurate to a T

#

now im trying to hunt for differences between the in game skin and the appearance in lore lol

#

i wonder if reaper always had those dual shotguns or not

tall sleet
#

in soldiers origin story he's using two guns in the background

fringe thistle
#

omg lmao

#

im just thinking of how he reloads in canon

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like he just throws them on the ground and pulls out new ones in ow because cool, but i imagine he has to actually reload in actual canon stuff

#

theres an interesting bit there too because cass says "you weren't given those guns to toss around like trash" to him so i wonder what that actually means

cosmic crest
#

I was about to mention that

fringe thistle
#

seems like there's an actual story behind his guns there

cosmic crest
#

It's in reference to the fact that he throws his guns away and pulls out new ones

fringe thistle
#

idk

cosmic crest
#

Him doing that is cannon

#

It's mentioned in Code of Violence as well

fringe thistle
#

i mean it could be the in game dialogue pulling a funny but

#

given by who

green wyvern
#

i wouldnt be surprised if he carries like two sets of shotguns lmao

fringe thistle
#

wait so how does that work in lore then

#

does he actually just carry multiple shotguns everywhere

cosmic crest
#

Presumably

#

It's not an unheard of tactic

fringe thistle
#

w t f

#

so his shotguns literally cant reload or what

cosmic crest
#

Pirates and gunslingers irl would often carry multiple guns so they wouldn't have to relaoad

fringe thistle
#

im confused where the game logic ends and the real logic begins

cosmic crest
fringe thistle
#

his shotguns only carry 4 shells, so what does he do when he runs out of ammo

cosmic crest
#

What does any hero do when they run out of ammo?

fringe thistle
#

nah im talking like lore here lol

cosmic crest
#

Me too

peak escarp
#

when does he do that in Code of Violence?

#

I can't find it

fringe thistle
#

lots of the designs have ammo belts and spare shells/grenades on them

digital forum
cosmic crest
#

Replacing. Not reloading

fringe thistle
#

hell reaper's blackwatch outfit had lots of spare shells and grenades

peak escarp
#
stairs. Reyes landed hard on the lower level as Sombra emerged from her stealth
mode.
“Clear the area next time,” Reyes said, replacing his weapons.
“Tranquilo. People like me are the reason people like you have a job.”```
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replacing, as in reholstering

cosmic crest
#

Huh

fringe thistle
#

so he does just reload like a normal person

peak escarp
#

since just before this he pulls out his guns and jumps down the stairwell

fringe thistle
#

i was about to say does this mf really just carry multiple shotguns at once

cosmic crest
#

There is still the interaction with Cassidy

fringe thistle
#

wait where does he holster them

#

he doesnt have holsters

peak escarp
#

not on the player model

cosmic crest
#

And while I don't think we seem him pull out new ones, he does thow his guns away at the end of Infiltration

fringe thistle
#

how do you even holster shotguns that big

#

im just thinking like

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how does this work

peak escarp
#

it's just a game

#

not everything has to follow real world logic

fringe thistle
#

like they actually bothered to think of a way for tracer to get rid of her guns instead of them disappearing

#

same for genji and his shurikens

peak escarp
#

her OW2 design doesn't account for it

fringe thistle
#

seems like they thought of that too lol

#

like they do think about these things sometimes but not always i guess

peak escarp
#

how? they're in her hands

fringe thistle
#

they're holstered on her hip it looks like

#

i do like it when they pay attention to detail like this

#

makes it feel more immersive

peak escarp
#

you can see earlier in the shot that she's just holding them

fringe thistle
#

that code of violence example just stood out to me because it mentioned holstering his guns specifically and i was like where tho

#

ig his actual lore design has holsters that just arent on the in game model

#

or whatever that is

#

prolly just flashy vfx

limpid agate
#

I think that's just her sending them back in time into her gauntlets

fringe thistle
#

sometimes it feels like there's logic behind it and sometimes it doesn't

limpid agate
#

Or forward or whatever

fringe thistle
#

holy shit wait thats genius

#

thats probably exactly how it works lmao

limpid agate
#

Her reload animation is similar

fringe thistle
#

maybe she just sends the pulse pistols back in time for storage

#

and pulls them out whenever

#

and her learning how to do this is character development because she doesnt need physical holsters anymore

#

reach of the century lmao

#

massive brain

#

i like to overthink this kinda stuff its fun

opal nexus
#

they did change up tracers gauntlets ever since blizzcon 2019

#

maybe she actually has room for the guns now

tall sleet
#

Is there a list of all hero redesigns seen so far for overwatch 2?

#

There’s a lot of debate over people liking or hating junks new design but I like it actually but I’m wondering if there’s a compilation somewhere

peak escarp
#

we've seen all of the hero redesigns in various trailers

#

I made a graphic with most of them, but I haven't updated it for recent reveals

fringe thistle
#

i really wish they’d update that website

grand wedge
#

The website is down. I really hope we’ll have the updated biographies of the heroes up at some point, along with an official timeline of some sort, because a lot of people are confused about the lore and what happened when

opal nexus
#

bro the revelation of the last bastion happening before the null sector uprising just SMACKED me in the face when i first discovered it

past copper
#

Soldier: 76 and Junkrat look amazing

silent badge
#

how old is soldier 76 in overwatch 2

peak escarp
silent badge
#

damn

robust pelican
past copper
#

Junkrat and Roadhog do look cleaner. I guess being banished from Junkertown was a good thing for them

robust pelican
#

i still prefer their old desgins

#

they massacred my boys 😔

past copper
#

They look way better in Overwatch 2. It’s called character development

robust pelican
#

i disagree

past copper
#

I’m sure the two actually discovered soap and new clothes

#

Plus, all Junkrat really did was seem to brush his hair back, upgrade his riptire, and put on new goggles and pants

fringe thistle
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they look matured

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junk esp

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also hog’s new hook seems to have the same inner serrated edge that junk’s new tire does, which suggests junk made him new weapons

past copper
fringe thistle
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they gave junk rogaine lol

past copper
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They don’t look that different. Just new clothes and look like they bathed. With Hog sporting a new haircut and both upgrading their weapon

peak escarp
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his hairloss is probably from being in the radiated outback

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once he leaves, his hair grows in properly

fringe thistle
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i mean thats not how that works

past copper
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Yup. Plus, Junkrat still has the burning spots in his hair

fringe thistle
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hog looks like a biker now

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he’s more punk looking, i dig the nose ring on his mask

past copper
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They’ve had plenty of time to change their appearance after their plans blew up trying to get back into Junkertown

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I think the last place we ever actually saw them was in the Reflections comic when they were at Luna Park

fringe thistle
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i hope hog and jq still have interactions

past copper
fringe thistle
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like for open queue

peak escarp
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they probably will

past copper
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Honestly. I’m betting on new interactions between Junkrat, Roadhog, and Junker Queen

peak escarp
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and Wrecking Ball

peak escarp
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confirmation that Efi isn't dead

opal nexus
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orisa be like: efi it has been a year since my creation, i have unhappy meals now

opaque tundra
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Now I really wanna know what happens to Orisa's personality. It can't just be Efi getting rid of her nice personality to fight mercilessly Big Hero 6 style

opal nexus
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numbani probably got fucked up in some way or the both of them realise the horror of the world

arctic loom
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hello im back!

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after a while

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i guess doctor remember me

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so wow we got lot lore coming up huh?

peak escarp
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lots

arctic loom
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you must be so happy, i remember you being the lover of this lore

karmic turret
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im glad junkrat and roadhog have sorted their life out

arctic loom
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so

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are junk and roadhog

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still banned of junkertown?

karmic turret
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as long as junkerqueen lives

arctic loom
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also doctor six do you think pve

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will be free?

karmic turret
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No

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Pve will definitely be a fully priced game

worthy rose
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no lore

young acorn
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there seems to be a crap ton of new interactions coming as well

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dont know if anyone can see this cuz i have no image perms

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including between tanks, cant wait for more hamster interactions

peak escarp
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I'd be surprised if it cost extra

worn island
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So it will be released at the start of one of the new seasons in 2023?

limpid agate
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One of

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Yes

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There will be 6 seasons next year

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So it will start sometime between season 3 and 8

fringe thistle
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ow2 has over 25,000 new voice lines so

past copper
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Well. We’ve seen all redesigns for everyone except for Echo

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Safest to say she might be left outta the loop when the game drops

sturdy sparrow
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we might not get one since her cinematic was her getting introduced into overwatch 2

past copper
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But she could get a new look in later updates or something

sturdy sparrow
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cassidy gave her his medal i think and then said for her to do it instead of him,

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so since she is the most recent in the story line (other then the cinematic trailer for ow 2) she prolly wont get a redesign

past copper
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I mean, there’s plenty of time though. The story mode and other PvE won’t drop with the PvP after all

sturdy sparrow
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yes but echo will still be in the pvp and the beta and there is barley anyone really working on the game in the first place

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50-ish people

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so they dont have the time now to do another redesign in time

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for the beta

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but they also just might not have released it yet

karmic turret
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Because echo is our most recent hero, she isn't getting a new design

worthy rose
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well its said all 33 got a redesign, so

karmic turret
peak escarp
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33 heroes would include Sojourn

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who isn't an OW1 hero

clear kestrel
opaque tundra
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Thank you very much for your professional input

worthy rose
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@opaque tundra

peak escarp
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!!shitposting @worthy rose

twilit nacelleBOT
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@rapid ingot Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

peak escarp
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this is a serious channel for discussing the lore

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if you're not going to do that, please leave

vestal stratus
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Scary stuff

past copper
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And someone actually questioned why not everyone can report shitposting

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I think that situation answered that question clearly

limpid agate
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So realistically

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The first map we will get with hero teasers in it is going to be Portugal

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Of these 6

peak escarp
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one of the support heroes could be linked to the Portugal map

opal nexus
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god we're gonna have to wait till beta 3 to see those portugal hero hints huh Cuckumo

peak escarp
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if that's when we see the Portugal map

opal nexus
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analysing rio will have to do i guess

peak escarp
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we'll get to see Lucio's home

past copper
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I kinda think Portugal might have something to do with Ana

opal nexus
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because of the reveal trailer?

past copper
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Just a theory, but seemed the devs subtly hinted at the maps they showed with heroes looking over them being connected

opal nexus
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could have to do with mohawk guy but we're just shooting at the dark at this point

past copper
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It’s just an assumption. It may be something personal to them either from the past or to be revealed in the story

Tracer in Kings Row (likely her past with the Uprising and Alive)
Soldier: 76 in Monte Carlo (possibly hunting down Talon)
Zenyatta in India Temple (I think that’s the map)
Winston in Toronto (reuniting with Sojourn and the rest of Overwatch)
Lúcio in Rio (Null Sector invasion)
Ana in Portugal (possibly hunting Talon)

opal nexus
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portugal could have some sort of resistance movement against organisations like talon

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cause as far as we know talon just seems to do whatever with little consequence

opal nexus
past copper
opal nexus
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ja
although i am a tad confused on genji calling the temple his home when zenyatta left it behind and met genji along his travels unless zenyatta decided to leave after taking in genji and genji was still content in hanging out with the other monks?

peak escarp
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they lived in a village below the temple

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not in the temple itself

opal nexus
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ohhhh

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OH RIGHT that section of the map

past copper
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Or Genji could be referring to any Shambali temple as his home

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Or even Zenyatta being his master as his “home”

peak escarp
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wait when does Genji call the temple his home?

past copper
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In the first trailer for Overwatch 2

opal nexus
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errrr i was referring to the line genji says in nepal
"this is my home, as much as any other" iirc

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then again i probably interpreted that line wrong

peak escarp
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you mean the 2019 trailer?

past copper
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Yes. I remember hearing Genji say that in the trailer as he approaches a meditating Zenyatta

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At least I think he did. Been some time since watching that

peak escarp
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he doesn't

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Zenyatta says "I knew you would return some day"

opal nexus
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💀

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wow my memory is terrible

peak escarp
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Genji does say "this is my home now" on Nepal Village

opal nexus
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just nepal village specifically?

peak escarp
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I think? it's been a while since I've heard it

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but you can literally see his room on the map

opal nexus
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if so that clears it up a lot for me

peak escarp
past copper
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Still, think the maps with heroes there has something to do with them personally

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Which we will have to wait and see whenever we get the story mode

opal nexus
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ya i knew about that room
genji has quite a lot of swords huh

past copper
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Unless we get voice lines based on the maps

opal nexus
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portugal voice lines could be a pretty big hint

peak escarp
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the dev said that there's clues on the the Portugal map that relate to a new faction

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and that new faction is connected to a future hero

past copper
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Maybe. But doesn’t mean Ana is unrelated

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She does seem to have been busy besides working with Jack

peak escarp
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not maybe

opal nexus
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ana is still in egypt yeah?
did they say anything about jack recently?

peak escarp
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we haven't seen Jack since Valkyrie

opal nexus
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woew

past copper
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We don’t know what Jack’s been up too