Its not in the beta, its in the live game
#lore-discussion
wise wadi
And I don’t play overwatch much
limpid agate
Is a line that plays when Hanzo spawns on Ilios
crisp hearth
How much did hanzo fuck up genji
limpid agate
Genji had to be amputated, his face and body is severely scarred, and he cant taste food the same as he used to
Hes missing around half his body
crisp hearth
Hes missing around half his body
Gawd damn did hanzo really have to do all that to his brother
Could of “killed” him more simpler
past copper
Someone did a diagram of what Genji’s look like
wise wadi
And why did hanzo do that 🤔
past copper
He did it because his clan forced him to
crisp hearth
He did it because his clan forced him to
Did he have to kill him that brutally
past copper
Hanzo was expected to become the head of the Shimada after his father died, but the clan demanded he straighten out Genji from his immature tendencies
Genji refused and Hanzo was ordered to kill him, which led to him abandoning the clan and forced to run and fight assassins hunting him down for the rest of his life
More or less, if Hanzo refused to kill his brother, the clan would’ve seen this as weakness and more than likely kill both him and Genji
worthy rose
i was joking 😛
jaunty pine
how is he any more of a joke character than any other hero
peak escarp
he came from the Jetpack Cat idea
tall sleet
is the fox in the trailer a hint for another new hero?
past copper
Uhh so what do we know about JunkerQueen ?
She was a fighter in the arena and as far as we know, looks like she also fought the Junker King who ruled for 13 years and took over Junkertown
Other than that, we don’t have much to go by aside from what we saw in Junkrat, Roadhog, and Hammond animated shorts/origins/comic
peak escarp
she became the Queen of the scrapyard, and used her fame there to become leader of all of Junkertown
worn island
How big is junkertown?
past copper
As big as the Omnium, in which they built Junkertown on the remains of
dark lichen
It's pretty much it's own society in the outback of Australia; and as you may imagine, there's not much else out there.
From voicelines and comics, we know it's doing... pretty well for itself, there's bars, food places, etc etc, so it's not complete anarchy.
I'm sure we'll get more light shed on it during the Junker Queen's cinematic, which I'm 100% certain is gonna be showed during the livestream later this week.
tulip granite
This is a serious discussion channel
fathom gazelle
Are the comics in order for release?
limpid agate
Yes
worthy rose
Yes
taiga question
how is fox girl related to hanzo and genji again ? isn’t she like their cousin or something ? i forgot the exact details
limpid agate
No.
Her mother, Asa Yamagami, was the swordmaster who trained them.
IF the fox girl is Asa's daughter
But she most likely is
thin veldt
nothing is set in stone yet iirc, just that during the dev update when the map came out, jeff did slightly hint at them being connected somehow
limpid agate
Her father is also a famed swordsmith in Tokyo
I think he might have made Genji's sword, but I'm not positive
Either way, it is likely that she has the same tattoo tech as Hanzo and Genji
thin veldt
tattoo tech?
limpid agate
The stuff that lets Genji and Hanzo summon spirit dragons
thin veldt
ahh i see
worthy rose
Genji's less so
that explains the fox powers.
worthy rose
Her mother, Asa Yamagami, was the swordmaster who trained them.
thank u for clearing this all up by the way <3.
thin veldt
Visibly we can see Hanzo's
yeah, can see the dragon coming out from hanzo's tattoo in the short, but where can we see genjis actually? never really noticed his
limpid agate
We dont
worthy rose
so either way she’s from the shimada universe in oferwatch
limpid agate
Its never been explicitly confirmed if Genji has a tattoo
But it is likely given his upbringing and the case of him having a dragon as well
worthy rose
genji probably has a dragon tattoo but he’s a cyborg so we can’t exactly see it.
i’d say it’s most likely in his back
since when he summons the dragon the sword is in his back.
and you can see the dragon coming out of his back
limpid agate
Only catch is that this is the only backshot we have seen, so its not a full back tattoo
worthy rose
it could be either his right arm or his back
i say his right arm because hanzo’s right arm has the dragon i believe
oh no wait it’s his left arm
still would make sense
genji right arm hanzo left arm
south pebble
and you can see the dragon coming out of his back
If u look closely his sword has an on/off button
I’ll let u figure out what it does
worthy rose
did some research
so apparently the sword is a catalyst that helps genji summon the dragon
same with hanzo’s tattoo
nimble grotto
.
grand wedge
Don’t forget that Fox Girl Dad sent her a weapon custom made for her
sly kettle
do you guys think we'll get more animated shorts?
worthy rose
Don’t forget that Fox Girl Dad sent her a weapon custom made for her
it’s her dad
that applies the catalyst
so, i’m guessing the weapon is the catalyst for her too.
worthy rose
do you guys think we'll get more animated shorts?
definitely
there’s always more when there’s a new hero
remember zero hour
it included brig and echo
there will probably be one including junkerqueen
and another one including fox girl since they’re from different places.
and have no ties to each other ( as far as we know )
peak escarp
do you guys think we'll get more animated shorts?
we're confirmed to get two more at least - one featuring Junker Queen called "The Wastelander", and one featuring Sojourn
sly kettle
ah can't wait! I'm already in love with Junker Queen
limpid burrow
Soo I am feeling. Ashe and junker queen could be besties
fringe thistle
what makes you say that
ashe seems like the kind of person to not like anyone she can't control or have as a lackey
peak escarp
Ashe would see her as an equal
past osprey
anyone know the thing taiga posted about new heroes?
junker queen and some oher heroes
peak escarp
the announcement?
past copper
Am I the only one loving Orisa’s new look
opaque tundra
I like the little hair
peak escarp
reminds me of Lucio
limpid burrow
reminds me of Lucio
might be lucio inspires wasent effie a fan of him
limpid burrow
Ashe would see her as an equal
OH GOD THE FAN FICS
peak escarp
might be lucio inspires wasent effie a fan of him
yep
limpid burrow
makes sence
past copper
Gotta say, love Orisa with hair
Kinda looks inspired between Lúcio and the Null Sector Leader
Also, looks like Moira’s been experimenting on herself again
I’m both creeped out, but curious
fringe thistle
also she’s going grey now lol
peak escarp
she is almost 50
past copper
Really, all we need now is a clearer look at Soldier: 76 and Ana, we don’t see their faces
And to see Junkrat and see if Echo has a new look yet or not and we’ll be all set for the current heroes
young acorn
we have seen a good look of soldiers face already, but the not the 3d model
(i cant send images so here a tweet that shows it)
fringe thistle
bro finally got a haircut
peak escarp
quiet vine
we kinda see soldier's new look when Doomfist punches Soldier and Roadhog in the recent video
new clothing and no mask, like that image above
peak escarp
the only ones we haven't seen are Junkrat and Echo
and it's unknown if Echo will get a redesign
quiet vine
Doc, could I send you this image? I don't have image perms and I think it'll interest people, even if its somewhat low quality
peak escarp
upload it somewhere and post the link
quiet vine
peak escarp
that's pretty good actually
more black in his design than before
represent his darker turn?
quiet vine
Zarya is shown too, looks just like she did in New Blood #4
i could send my capture of her too if ya want
hanzo, sigma, zenyatta... a lot of new looks shown
i wonder what the reasoning behind them are - like their story between overwatch and overwatch 2
fringe thistle
him and soldier have the same barber
i really dig ponytail zar, she looks so much better than her previous hairstyle
past copper
Bro. We did get a glimpse of Echo, but she looked the same.
fringe thistle
they said echo wont change
past copper
And the only thing we saw new bout Junkrat was his riptire
It now looks as though it’s composed of serrated blades instead of spikes
young acorn
they said echo may not change, just not a guaraente
so she could get a new look still
past copper
Makes sense Junkrat would upgrade his precious riptire
She’s still relatively new. It’s very unlikely to give her a redesign any time soon
drowsy tangle
mm well echo's final artwork was revealed in ashe's animated short Nov 2018. Baptiste and Sigma were introduced in 2019 and they both got redesigns. so i can see them giving her an OW2 skin
you could even stretch to say echo's main design was in 2014 during the reveal trailer
peak escarp
the devs said it was a maybe
past copper
You know. I’d think Soldier:76 and Ana would make an appearance in the story
Either cross paths with the new Overwatch or make like an end credits thing
Whichever’s clever
peak escarp
they're off doing their own thing
past copper
True. But if Overwatch begins dealing with Talon and they’re also dealing with Talon, it’s unlikely to assume they wouldn’t cross paths eventually
peak escarp
maybe
opaque tundra
Everyone has a redesign in the recent trailer except Echo. It's safe to say she doesn't get one
cosmic crest
Junkrat dosen't have one either
little rock
d
mystic citrus
possible
modest wolf
People discuss lore here? Dope
peak escarp
yep
worthy rose
people discuss here? dope
wooden sleet
There is a lack of discussion today
quiet vine
not much to discuss atm - i expect more on the 16th
also its mostly people asking questions to learn more
peak escarp
there will be a lot to discuss tomorrow
past copper
Yep. I’m more interested in seeing how console players deem the next beta. Me included
Also, is it me or did Mei freeze two people in that trailer with Torb ult? I don’t know if she used ult too or not
past copper
Nope. Never mind. That was Mei’s ult
pliant rock
past copper
Well, pretty sure the second is exclusive for console this time
Easier to have the first beta tested on PC then have the 2nd tested on console
peak escarp
it's for console and PC
limpid agate
The second beta is absolutely not exclusive to console
That would be an even worse PR suicide than everything they have done thusfar
young roost
In the story of overwatch I think personally the 5 most likely to join back with winston and the others will be Soldier, Ana, Sombra, Symmetra, and Hammond.
Regarding where each of these characters lores have been going I could easily see them joining, and lets be honest Sombra is more than just playing for both sides and is just using talon to get information on who exactly runs the world.
Least likely to join would of course be doomfist. Even if Talon pushes him aside he’ll probably never join overwatch. He has too much pride, and in Orisa’s own words he is a coward.
It be cute to see hammond and winston working together. Symmetra will find out what Viskar and specifically Sanjay has been doing behind the scenes, and I’m pretty sure Ana and Soldier are the reason Mercy came back at all to the team.
Sigma I’m a bit iffy on…cuz Talon IS using his research behind his back.
fringe thistle
i dont think ana and jack are joining any time soon
young roost
i dont think ana and jack are joining any time soon
It’ll probably take someone else to fully convince them
fringe thistle
both of them literally said “no thanks” to winston’s recall
jack said something like “you can go play hero by yourselves” or something
young roost
That’s Jack but I’m pretty sure Ana was the one who really pushed for Mercy to come back.
fringe thistle
and ana is literally a criminal rn
young roost
True
fringe thistle
altho ana amari isnt wanted it’s “Shrike”
young roost
Yeah and as long as nothing gives her away she won’t be apprehended…hopefully
fringe thistle
hopefully
young roost
I also doubt Ashe would ever join unless the payout for her is worth it.
fringe thistle
also because thats the same org that cass betrayed her for
young roost
Being around Cole to her is already a sad existence to be in. Literally saying she was sorry Echo has to deal with him now.
fringe thistle
i really wonder if it was cass joining ow that soured her opinion of cass
young roost
But there would probably be friction between her and widow for who’s the better shot.
fringe thistle
like i can’t think of any other reason but him leaving but idk
she must’ve known cass was either joining ow or going to jail
young roost
i really wonder if it was cass joining ow that soured her opinion of cass
See what I think is that cass is taking ashe with him somewhere.
Where? Idk
All he said was that he had unfinished business
fringe thistle
i feel like they might make up tho
tbh
i mean like havent they been through a lot together
peak escarp
truth.” The fervor that crept into his voice sounded like obsession.
“The truth,” I said flatly.
“The truth about what happened to Overwatch. About Talon. Switzerland.
About everything. That’s my new mission.”
“It doesn’t seem that new. Other than the masks.”
“What would you have me do, then?” Jack snapped. “Fly to Gibraltar and join
up with Winston? You think the same people who brought down Overwatch won’t
take him down, too?”```If they do then they’d definitely join in ow. Maybe that’s the “unfinished business” that he was talking about? Reconciling with an old friend
peak escarp
Reyes, Ogundimu, Maximilien, Vialli, Sombra, O’Deorain, and the rest of them. They’ll be dealt with.”```and she totally still secretly likes him i feel like
peak escarp
Jack won't go back
fringe thistle
```“Let Winston play hero,” Jack said dismissively. “I’ll do what needs to be do...
yeah i thought he said something like that
peak escarp
not until he gets vengeance for Overwatch
fringe thistle
jack is done with ow, he’s done playing nice
peak escarp
he's more likely to die in the attempt
young roost
I don’t believe that. I refuse to. I feel like in an attempt to try and take one of talons members down the others in OW will appear to help or save him. Whether he’ll be grateful for that is up for debate…
fringe thistle
i really want to believe gabe is a double agent
fringe thistle
but him and jack really did have rising tension so idk
fringe thistle
that would be dumb
because it seems strange he would join the terrorist org he spent so many years fighting against
to me anyway
young roost
Sombra is the double agent here. And I think she is most likely to join ow to get to her goal than Jack is. Still the possibility cannot be ruled out
peak escarp
did you read Code of Violence?
fringe thistle
i have not yet no
i probably should
i heard CoV gives some good insight to his backstory
peak escarp
true villains never see the inside of a cell,” Akande said. “You’ve been a police
officer and a soldier. Spent a great deal of your life in the pursuit of justice. Only
to see justice so easily bought and sold.”```difference? As a police officer? As a soldier? As an Overwatch agent? Have your
actions tipped the scales of justice?”```words from escaping. As a cop, Reyes had locked away hundreds of criminals, and
it had done nothing to stem the flow of street crime. As a soldier, he had helped
to topple cruel authoritarian regimes only to watch a megacorporation take
control and continue the same abuses under the auspices of maximizing profits.
Unlike many of his cohorts, Reyes believed the root causes of injustice had to
be ripped out at the source. What good was arresting drug dealers if the cartels
weren’t dismantled? Why save a nation from a despot without first determining
who elevated and kept them in power?```Doomfist pointed out that the true criminals were getting away free and Reyes knew he was right
the law wasn't working
that's the reason he went rogue
the reason he joined Talon is because that's where Moira was, and Moira was the one who saved his life after the explosion
young roost
Thought their methods are more brutal because of it and I feel like the personal tension is also why Ow is against them.
Though one has to ask
Who is behind Null Sector?
Why is there suddenly a new uprising again?
peak escarp
Reyes believed the ends justified the means
peak escarp
Why is there suddenly a new uprising again?
because Doomfist is out of prison
young roost
because Doomfist is out of prison
That’s the reason Null Sector is running rampant?
peak escarp
at the end of Storm Rising we see Doomfist make a partnership with an omnic (assumed to be a Null Sector leader)
peak escarp
that plan had to be put on hold because 3 weeks later, Overwatch arrests Doomfist and puts him in jail
now that he's escaped, that plan can be put into action
opal nexus
helix arent too great at their jobs are they
opal nexus
oh right that conspiracy thing
peak escarp
it's implied that Helix has some Talon moles
young roost
If anyone is gonna uncover the truth of the whole conflict it’s probably gonna be her.
That’s why I also believe at some point she’s gonna realize what Talon’s figure heads are trying to do and how they’re connected to this.
And that’s when she’d probably “help” overwatch.
peak escarp
Sombra would "help" Overwatch so that whoever wins, she'll have friends on the winning side
young roost
Most likely.
She’s been after the one or collective who managed to find her out in her early days of hacking for how long?
She’d use any means necessary to try and gain information about them.
peak escarp
it's not clear how long - in the origin trailer she seems to be in her late teens/early 20s when she gets hacked
timid minnow
I could see sombra giving information about “shrike” to the authorities.
young roost
It’s a big what if but what if she does that to kind of clear ana’s name? I see her betraying Talon soon.
She’d probably identify “shrike” as a talon member. She also could literally expose the truth about what’s happening in egypt and the other companies just as easily so they’d have to take her word for it
young roost
And that my friend is called lying. Sombra can fabricate a lie under the guise of legitimate information.
peak escarp
why would she do that
young roost
Meanwhile I still don’t know what she has planned with Katya.
young roost
why would she do that
It’s a big what if but it could be apart of a plan to eventually betray Talon. Talon will have something to do with who she is looking for.
Also will Zarya even join overwatch?
peak escarp
she already has
timid minnow
She did in new blood
opal nexus
i feel like he'll just be an ally
especially in that uhhh
temple mission sneak peek
think that was india?
peak escarp
young roost
think that was india?
It seemed to be another temple in Nepal
I also feel like that will be when Genji reunites with Zenyatta again
young roost
Link pls 👀
peak escarp
there was a Story missionn in India seen in the Blizzconline panel
young roost
I haven’t read it in a while so my memory is fried
peak escarp
timid minnow
I could also see sombra giving info to soldier about the targets he’s hunting
young roost
I could also see sombra giving info to soldier about the targets he’s hunting
That could be a thing too.
She had her own agenda but I feel like she’s more of an ally than people think.
peak escarp
she might already be giving Soldier info
been using it earlier, and the screen was cluttered with articles
about Reaper’s movements and appearances. Ana wondered
who had been supplying Jack with some of this information,
but that was a puzzle for another time. She browsed through
the reports and remembered the ruined face she had seen
behind the mask.
Gabriel… what happened to you?
One of the articles indicated that casualties in one of
Reaper’s attacks had suffered the same sort of wounds
as Jack.```Oh
fringe thistle
are the story challenge costumes canon
young roost
```After Jack left, Ana switched on her computer. Jack had
been using it earlier...
Oh shit-
fringe thistle
like is dusk reaper some kind of prototype reaper armor
opal nexus
yeah he wears it on his first mission with talon iirc
peak escarp
on the computer in the Necropolis map, you can see images from the security cameras at Volskaya Industries... it's possible those came from Sombra
fringe thistle
is that one yellow sym costume what she wears in between ow1 and 2
young roost
I still am predicting that Symmetra cinematic…
fringe thistle
i haven’t read her short story yet but im wondering when she wears that outfit
peak escarp
she wears it in the story
young roost
I would hate if the big revelation about Vishkar and Sanjay was just saved for a comic or a short story…
fringe thistle
she wears it in the story
when does that take place tho
fringe thistle
is it current like the valkryie story
peak escarp
young roost
Her character arc is leading up to this
peak escarp
when does that take place tho
it's not really clear, but probably present day, after "A Better World"
young roost
Zenyatta meeting her is also why I think he’ll be apart of Overwatch somewhat.
fringe thistle
the valk short story is before ow1 right
opal nexus
its right before zero hour
peak escarp
I think Genji brings Zenyatta to Overwatch for protection
fringe thistle
man the confusing thing is that “ow1” isn’t really a frame of reference for anything
peak escarp
OW1 = Recall
fringe thistle
like nothing technically happens in ow1, it’s just the present
peak escarp
so use Recall as the time reference
fringe thistle
recall is a better way to put it
opal nexus
man this genji fanservice got me goin CRAZYYYYY
fringe thistle
bc its confusing that nothing in the game actually happens
but ow2 is gonna change that
fringe thistle
I think Genji brings Zenyatta to Overwatch for protection
also what is this from its hype
opal nexus
well yeah it just started as a hero shooter
and the lore was just there to give some nice background
but now its actually developing pretty nicely
as a proper story
fringe thistle
fr its really interesting
fringe thistle
i wouldn’t ever think zen would join ow directly but genji bringing him for protection makes sense
i feel like zen, being a monk, wouldn’t get involved in any conflict
opal nexus
he's gonna try and pull an anime protagonist speech on the big bad null sector boss and then sacrifice himself to protect humanity and robotkind
imprinting himself as a star on the celestial tapestry like aurora before him
fringe thistle
wait wtf did widow block that shuriken with her gun lmao
where did that middle shuriken go
opal nexus
i think she was just instinctively pulling her gun up in case a shuriken would hit her in the face
peak escarp
I think she shoots it out of the air
opal nexus
yeah
peak escarp
like she did to Tracer's pulse bomb in Alive
opal nexus
bro shes a master sniper
peak escarp
yeah that would be easy for her
fringe thistle
did they modify her eyes too
fringe thistle
i thought it was just her nerves and slowed heartbeat to reduce sway
opal nexus
she'd have gone through some hella extensive training too
fringe thistle
jesus christ shooting something that tiny and fast is insane
bc im thinking about actually trying to do that in game and like damn
thats crazy lmao
opal nexus
genji is simply built different i bet he could deflect a whole ass bullet back at her face
fringe thistle
both genji and widow are built different
but genji is literally built different
cuz hes a cyborg
opal nexus
fringe thistle
i think that might be a game cutscene
opal nexus
yeah it is
peak escarp
yep
opal nexus
probably the intro for the mission or smth
fringe thistle
yeah i can tell because there’s no particle hair, it’s sculpted
this looks awesome
peak escarp
maybe even mid-mission cutscenes too
fringe thistle
i love seeing maya animation tests
fringe thistle
nah i mean because these are the low poly game models
opal nexus
oh ya
fringe thistle
not the high poly cg models
opal nexus
even in-engine it's pretty nice
like that junkertown short
peak escarp
they might be the game models, but they still look really good
fringe thistle
which honestly me real excited for what this means for story cutscenes
this looks so dynamic for just a few seconds
fringe thistle
storm rising was what i was really impressed by
the first time i played it my jaw dropped
opal nexus
tracer do be throwin hands
fringe thistle
i was like HOLY SHIT IN ENGINE CUTSCENES
TRACER ON A BIKE
i hope she still has that bike because that was such a cool design
opal nexus
i dont think ill ever get over how funny lucio trying to wallride out of a crumbling mothership and then blowing the fuck up is
opal nexus
i hope she still has that bike because that was such a cool design
oh yeah she seems to be a bit of a motorbike enthusiast
fringe thistle
dude i cannot wait to see lucio in action in a cinematic
his action scenes are gonna be sick
opal nexus
bro i cant wait for HANZO
fringe thistle
omg hanzo
opal nexus
man is gonna be so graceful
opal nexus
TRUE
young roost
I read stone by stone
opal nexus
and every damn shot made by hanzo had so much impact
fringe thistle
hopefully hanzo has scatter as a talent
opal nexus
such a hefty bow
young roost
God damn it was good…
fringe thistle
also that curved arrow shot lmao imagine if he could do that in game
opal nexus
💀
fringe thistle
curve his arrows around corners like that
peak escarp
God damn it was good…
Stone by Stone is the best short story
young roost
I think Genji brings Zenyatta to Overwatch for protection
Most likely
peak escarp
so well written
young roost
And the art to go with it is beautiful
peak escarp
really does a good job portraying Symmetra's autistic traits
young roost
It makes you really appreciate the care that’s going into just one chatacters story
fringe thistle
Stone by Stone is the best short story
should i read them in release order?
starting with bap
peak escarp
release order works
fringe thistle
is that the actual order
fringe thistle
oh yeah theyre releasing a short story collection soon
oh snap ill buy that
oh yeah i forgot bastet was first since baps was so much later on
peak escarp
the short story collection comes out August 2
fringe thistle
yo thats only 2 months
opal nexus
pictured: my entire team focusing the symmetra
fringe thistle
man i hope the rio mission is playable next beta
peak escarp
the illustrations for Stone by Stone are done by Nesskain, who does the art for most of the origin trailers (since Moira)
and was also the lead artist on the series Arcane
opal nexus
ZAMN
young roost
With what Zenyatta taught Symmetra and the possibility of her learning the secrets Vishkar is hiding, I have absolute faith she will join in and even understand why Lucio fights for what he fights for.
peak escarp
I'm excited to see how Symmetra's character arc develops
young roost
And that to me is a beautiful arc for her with how she started out
fringe thistle
the dialogue was so good in retribution and storm rising, i cannot wait to hear the banter in ow2 missions
i think cass and gabe had my favorite dynamic, they were so fun to watch
opal nexus
i love how the new redesigns convey the passage of time and how characters have progressed
THESE MFS KNOW THEIR STUFF
WOOOOOOO
peak escarp
yep
fringe thistle
moira also was great
young roost
What I’m excited for are the missions they’ll add to continue the story after the first missions comes out with the game
fringe thistle
genji was just kinda there
opal nexus
gabe: y'know your brother wouldve made a great agent
genji: ...
gabe: wrong comment i know
young roost
Because with how much stuff will be input in like- the first 10+ missions I know they can even introduce more characters to the story in the future like Hammond and Hanzo.
fringe thistle
the comics did a better job of portraying bw genji than retribution imo
i was expecting him to be a lot more…angry
opal nexus
its funny to think 8 years ago hanzo is still mourning genji meanwhile
"WE'RE AT THE DROP POINT WHERE ARE YOU WE'RE PINNED DOWN HERE"
peak escarp
opal nexus
the comics did a better job of portraying bw genji than retribution imo
he seems to be holding in a lot of his angst to not compromise the mission and stuff
seems like the only way he could vent his feelings were to mercy and the other non-BW members
fringe thistle
i kinda hate that cass and genji never really had a relationship like gabe and cass did
peak escarp
Genji is happier/more outgoing in Storm Rising because his body is completed
they gave him the upgrades they promised him
fringe thistle
like genji doesn’t really seem to consider cass anything but someone he worked with a few times and thats kinda sad
peak escarp
...but then he gets wrecked by Doomfist in Singapore and that goes out the window
fringe thistle
i feel like they’d be great friends
fringe thistle
...but then he gets wrecked by Doomfist in Singapore and that goes out the windo...
im surprised they didn’t have to completely rebuild him with a new body lol
opal nexus
yeah but you can still genji still hasnt gone through that development of accepting his purpose in life
like when he was clenching his hand towards max
fringe thistle
like a brand new design
maybe watchpoint gibraltar just has spare genji parts lying around like iron man suits
opal nexus
hes happy to have friends but deep down hes probably still thinking "damn im gonna be a weapon for the rest of my life"
fringe thistle
he’s mostly gotten over it after leaving zen tho
opal nexus
ye
fringe thistle
i wish we had a short story of Bedouin Genji
opal nexus
speaking of which did genji leave overwatch behind before or after it was disbanded?
fringe thistle
like a story about his time at nepal
peak escarp
he left before it was disbanded
fringe thistle
bedouin genji wouldve made a good weekly challenge
apparently he had some adventures while he was traveling the world after leaving overwatch so
peak escarp
Bedouin Genji isn't a canon skin
fringe thistle
it has a unique description though
peak escarp
so does Sherlock Cassidy
peak escarp
having a description doesn't mean it's canon
fringe thistle
because it has a little lore tidbit about him being a wanderer after leaving ow
peak escarp
he did wander
fringe thistle
well that’s slightly disappointing
young roost
Honestly I wish there were more skins that changed like…particle effects or the way some visual stuff looks for how the weapons look while firing
fringe thistle
me too
young roost
I love those kinda skins dude
fringe thistle
the only one that does is pink mercy
peak escarp
D.Va's Junker/Scavenger skins have a description saying that mech battles are a common sport in Junkertown
fringe thistle
paladins has that for every legendary skin
fringe thistle
D.Va's Junker/Scavenger skins have a description saying that mech battles are a ...
i always saw that as an AU where dva lived in junkertown or something
instead of being meka squad she was a junker
fringe thistle
ngl AU skins are cool
peak escarp
But as time passed, Genji felt increasingly at war with himself. He was repulsed by the mechanical parts of his body and could not come to grips with what he had become. When his mission was complete, he abandoned Overwatch and wandered the world in search of meaning. He drifted for many years before crossing paths with the omnic monk Zenyatta. Though Genji initially rejected Zenyatta's wisdom, the benevolent omnic would not be deterred. In time, Zenyatta became his mentor, and under the monk's tutelage, Genji reconciled his dual existence as both man and machine. He learned to accept that although he had a cyborg body, his human soul was intact, and he came to see his new form as a gift and a unique strength.
young roost
😭😭😢
fringe thistle
isnt oni genji implied to be an AU skin because of his interaction with zen
young roost
I’ve been waiting for JQ to show up since Hammond was released
fringe thistle
he says “that was another life” on that skin only to zen
there’s other stuff too like wasteland ana
peak escarp
he says “that was another life” on that skin only to zen
that's not exclusive to the Oni skin
it's exclusive to the Hanamura map
fringe thistle
I’ve been waiting for JQ to show up since Hammond was released
oh i saw this tweet about one of the ow devs hinting why hammond copied junker queen’s blue mohawk
peak escarp
young roost
I’m also happy our next two heroes are tank and support respectively
young roost
oh i saw this tweet about one of the ow devs hinting why hammond copied junker q...
Makes sense she has an awesome mohak
peak escarp
maybe Junker Queen has a skin inspired by Wrecking Ball
young roost
Probably a sticker or an interaction
But please. I am begging blizz for this
Please just release another tank after the fox girl
Because I’m tired of 50% of the rooster still being attackers
😭
But there is luck on our side
opal nexus
MAUGA MAUGA MAUGA
young roost
If Mauga gets in he will be a tank as well with two rapid firing guns like bastion turrets
And a big shield
peak escarp
there's always going to be more Damage heroes than tanks and supports
young roost
I am interested to see how he’d react to Baptiste joining OW
opal nexus
im really hoping hes got some mean af close quarter moves
just like the heavy assaults
young roost
Idk if Mau would feel betrayed or if he’d be okay with it
Mau would still be apart of Talon though. I doubt he’d join Bap considering the last time they met…
fringe thistle
MAUGA MAUGA MAUGA
i hope hes the heavy weapons guy of ow
fringe thistle
give him 2 big ass chainguns like the heavies in retribution have
young roost
;-; im on mobile bro I can hear that
peak escarp
Baptiste: Sombra... how is he?
Sombra: Eager to see you again. Be careful.
there's only one person they could be talking about
fringe thistle
mauga?
young roost
Those are voice files?
peak escarp
yup
fringe thistle
so mauga wants to see bap again?
opal nexus
if mauga gets into the pve story he is gonna chew the scenery like a rabid beaver so hard
young roost
Lol…
peak escarp
Mauga wants revenge
opal nexus
so mauga wants to see bap again?
yeah he got blown up at the end of the bap short story
but bap correctly guessed he got out alive
young roost
In the story I see Mauga taking what Bap did and having a misunderstanding about it.
If Bap wanted Mauga dead why would he go out of his way to ask Sombra about him?
peak escarp
what's there to misunderstand?
Bap didn't want to kill Mauga, but he wasn't given much of a choice
it was either blow him up or get filled with bullets
fringe thistle
i wonder if mauga’s gonna be all scarred up like jack
young roost
I know 😦 but he still cares enough about him to know that A: he’s alive and B: he wants to see him again
Hm maybe ?
fringe thistle
i dont think mauga will look like he does in the spray
peak escarp
blowing him up is a good excuse to change his kit
fringe thistle
fr
peak escarp
since it would be a bad idea to give players dual miniguns and a shield
opal nexus
DOC TURN OFF MY PAIN INHIBITORS
fringe thistle
ow team is great at writing around gameplay stuff
young roost
since it would be a bad idea to give players dual miniguns and a shield
They think making Bastion mobile in his Turret form was a good idea.
And they still think moira is a balanced character
fringe thistle
giving bastion a total rework in ow2? well it’s obviously because torbjorn gave him some upgrades
peak escarp
we're veering off topic
fringe thistle
They think making Bastion mobile in his Turret form was a good idea.
it’s literally not as bad as you think
young roost
Trust me all they’d have to do is make Mauga extremely defensive
opal nexus
Yeah but turret bastion is kinda ass if you take him up close
young roost
Shield + an ult that helps teammates kill enemies
young roost
he’s adorable
I LOVE IT BRO
fringe thistle
he even gets all sad if he elims torb or brig
opal nexus
i think it'd be quite fun if mauga's ult took a page from baptiste and made him immortal by a tiny health threshold
opal nexus
bastion is the greatest boi
opal nexus
hmmm i wonder if theyll change it to his wheeled model now that he got the rework
young roost
This HAS to be when Bastion first arrives with Torb. It has to be.
Reinhardt understandably has PTSD
opal nexus
im pretty sure this is reinhardt and brigitte visiting gothenburg
peak escarp
it seems like Reinhardt and Brigitte go to see Torbjorn to ask him to come back, and Bastion is there...
young roost
And Torb is probably the reason that Bastion doesn’t get smashed by him
opal nexus
yeah theres a storyboard of it too
fringe thistle
i love that torb gave bastion his old Ironclad ball cap, the exact same one he wears in the skin
peak escarp
Reinhardt's first reaction is to fight, but since Bastion doesn't fight back, he pauses
opal nexus
torbjorn jumping in between them
young roost
it seems like Reinhardt and Brigitte go to see Torbjorn to ask him to come back,...
That’s gonna be so good
I cannot wait for the 40+ minutes worth of cutscenes they’ve been working on
peak escarp
and then there's a mission you get to play with Torb, Rein, Brig and Bastion
young roost
You bet your ass I’m gonna experience that.
peak escarp
and then after the mission, Torb says he's retired and stays home, but sends Bastion with them
opal nexus
"what are you doing here?"
"it's happening again..."
"bwoop?"
"THEY'VE BREACHED OUR DEFENSES 
"
peak escarp
yup
young roost
I mean you have to think about it on Rein’s side
Like the actual game aside, bastion and rein are not compatible because of what Rein went through…
Which is more than understandable.
fringe thistle
anyone else notice this
opal nexus
peak character design
fringe thistle
i think its so cute lol
peak escarp
aha
fringe thistle
the tears on it are the exact same
opal nexus
wonder what happened to the ironclad guild
fringe thistle
wonder what happened to the ironclad guild
well we saw them on the gothenburg map
im sure they're still around
opal nexus
old ass instructor torb
fringe thistle
i wanna see torb retire and become like a master blacksmith at the ironclad guild
like instructing new apprentices
young roost
I think Genji brings Zenyatta to Overwatch for protection
I wanna know more about this btw
fringe thistle
best ending for him
young roost
Why is Sombra and Widow in paris trying to take Zenyatta.
opal nexus
man that ironclad mission is gonna be crazy
like straight out of a fantasy tale
the knight, the shieldmaiden, the viking and the reformed golem
peak escarp
Why is Sombra and Widow in paris trying to take Zenyatta.
they're in India, not Paris
peak escarp
there's what happens after
and then this
peak escarp
Why is Sombra and Widow in paris trying to take Zenyatta.
this seems to be the scene where they show up - Zenyatta is in a meditation room
young roost
Ey mcree’s there in that sojurn behind the scenes cutscene
peak escarp
this is rendered in engine
young roost
and then this
Omg that brig should be an emote
opal nexus
oof
gorgeous
young roost
That face
young roost
I love the story so I’m so glad they’re taking the story super seriously
Also
I gotta know what Sojurn and Rein are arguing about
peak escarp
aha - here's what I was looking for
Bastion with the Overwatch team
it will be interesting to see how Zarya reacts to it, considering her country is currently at war with omnics
young roost
I feel like much like Symmetra, Zarya is going to have an eye opening experience with the omnics of the team
Most likely because of Zenyatta
peak escarp
she already had a bit of an experience, with Lynx in "Searching"
young roost
Still she will definitely be apprehensive or dismissive
peak escarp
when she went back to the front she was much more aware of "these omnics we're fighting aren't the same as all omnics, not all omnics are my enemies"
peak escarp
Mercy will probably tell them that Jack and Ana are alive, but don't want to join
opal nexus
it'll probably be pretty difficult for zarya considering bastions are a symbol of terror in russia
im sure she'll mean well but will come off as insensitive at times
young roost
See this is what happens when you take a break from the game for 3 years…
opal nexus
im wondering if they'll do like
an in game adaptation of new blood
or they'll just be like "READ THE COMIC SERIES TO FIND OUT THIS BACKGROUND"
peak escarp
I do advise you to get caught up
young roost
im wondering if they'll do like
an in game adaptation of new blood
or they'll ju...
Probably
peak escarp
all the links are in the pins in this channel
young roost
Please send me the stuff I have missed in the past 3 years ;-;
peak escarp
or you can check my masterlist here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BFYjC78shFuhpu4Fm0l99qKQznIc7lPouQaikD5YvkY/edit?usp=sharing
young roost
Thx
opal nexus
thats fair
young roost
Oh there’s this really great interaction mcree has with Bap I think
About how high his bounty was compared to Ana’s
He gets told his was lower and his response is a quick “dammit”
It’s so funny
peak escarp
young roost
Also love the beard
fringe thistle
he looks more mature somehow
opal nexus
i like the implication behind it too
either "damn i'll never amount up to her" or "she's in far greater danger than me"
fringe thistle
isnt he in his 30’s now
young roost
Yeah
opal nexus
hes almost 40
young roost
I think he’s 36-37 now
peak escarp
he was 37 in OW1
opal nexus
keep in mind ow2 is probably a year or so after ow1
young roost
Shit fr?
peak escarp
OW2 is set a year later, so he'd be 38
fringe thistle
he was like a kid during his deadlock days huh
young roost
…Here I thought it too 5-10 years later
peak escarp
he was 15 when he started the gang with Ashe (she was 17)
opal nexus
yeah deadlock rebels has cass and ashe at like 16-17 respectively
ohhh
damm he was mad young
fringe thistle
damn he really WAS a kid
peak escarp
and he was 17 when he got busted by Overwatch and was given the option to join Deadlock
opal nexus
he was a runaway i believe
fringe thistle
i was thinking like 17-18
young roost
Jeez-
opal nexus
started working odd jobs at farms and shit
peak escarp
fringe thistle
and he was 17 when he got busted by Overwatch and was given the option to join D...
ahh yeah that sounds about right honestly
peak escarp
bunch of punk teenagers
fringe thistle
so hes like 18 in retribution
opal nexus
no hes 30 there
peak escarp
he's 30 in Retribution
young roost
I wonder then how Ashe will play into this story. I know for a fact it’ll probably take more than just reconciling with her past and with Cole that’ll convince her to be apart of OW
peak escarp
Retribution was 8 years before Recall
peak escarp
so he'd be 29
opal nexus
yeah this is way into him joining blackwatch
probably why hes such a pissy little baby
he has spent more than half his life with these brooding black ops guys
peak escarp
he was with Overwatch for 20 years
fringe thistle
hope bro gets a pension for his service
fringe thistle
…does overwatch count as military service? it is UN right
young roost
this photo is from 20 years before Recall
Still wondering where tf is that last dude in the photo. We pretty much have everyone who was apart of that photo except for the guy on the left
fringe thistle
i thought overwatch was like a NATO organization
peak escarp
there's some theories
opal nexus
yeah theyre UN
peak escarp
but nobody knows for sure
fringe thistle
this photo is from 20 years before Recall
i heard this photo was retconned
young roost
I have nagging feeling he’d be the next attack hero we get eventually
peak escarp
yep
fringe thistle
god damn rein is ridiculously wide in that pic wtf???
young roost
god damn rein is ridiculously wide in that pic wtf???
Rein is thay damn huge dude
opal nexus
yeah reinhardt's size was so inconsistent LMAO
fringe thistle
dude in that pic rein is as wide as 4 people what the FUCK
actually he’s like 7’3
peak escarp
he could also be this guy, seen in the images that flash by when Winston initiates the Recall
also seen in some early concept art
peak escarp
but again, it's hard to say until we get some kind of confirmation from the devs
fringe thistle
this photo is from 20 years before Recall
is that vivian on the right btw
peak escarp
Sojourn's appearance changed a lot from that photo to present day
peak escarp
is that vivian on the right btw
yes
young roost
Wb that roman tease? Zephyrus
fringe thistle
dude i want a sword melee hero so bad
peak escarp
Zephyrus seems more like worldbuilding/set design than a hero tease
young roost
I love the design of Zephrus and he’d definitely be melee
peak escarp
i wonder why her hair turned white like that
she is in her 50s
fringe thistle
yeah but it’s like white
like unnatural
i assume the blue eyes are because of cybernetics
peak escarp
people get white hair when they get old
fringe thistle
ig it just seems a little strange
she looks good for being in her 50s, must be all those cybernetic enhancements
i would’ve guessed early 30s
fringe thistle
i hate how dirty the models did their deadlock designs
cassidy does not look 17 in his deadlock skin lol
fringe thistle
on the in game model he looks like he’s in his 30s like his reg skin
the cover he looks like a teenager
fringe thistle
im ngl i really like this design so much better than the sojourn we’re getting
peak escarp
that'll likely be one of her launch skins
peak escarp
same with Junker Queen's appearance in her short
peak escarp
yeah
fringe thistle
especially like ana and cass
honestly i think its weird after the omnic crisis they stopped having uniforms
like how are tracer, genji, and mercy all part of the same org
storm rising felt so weird to me because nobody matches in their default skins lol
peak escarp
they had uniforms in Uprising
fringe thistle
yeah but not storm rising
peak escarp
but then Overwatch lost popularity, so they didn't want to be seen publicly
fringe thistle
oh so it was undercover
fringe thistle
or did they just completely stop with the branding after the rialto incident
no more ow logo or uniforms
peak escarp
but it does look like they're getting uniforms again, at least in-game
fringe thistle
yeah i like that a lot
i like them matching again
the blue ow uniforms were awesome
peak escarp
I'd love to see New Overwatch in classic blue skins
opal nexus
storm rising felt so weird to me because nobody matches in their default skins l...
winston running around with a horizon logo 
fringe thistle
i always wanted to see genji in that blue uniform
there was artwork of him wearing a black and orange uniform
i wonder when overwatch decided to change from blue to orange
seems like early overwatch was the blue and late-end overwatch was orange
opal nexus
ow2 designs be so clean and coherent with each other 😌
past copper
but it does look like they're getting uniforms again, at least in-game
Kinda look like new winter uniforms. Maybe archives?
peak escarp
Archives is dead
past copper
Or something replacing the archives
peak escarp
it'll be in battle passes
opal nexus
yeah i was assuming that or skin packs
past copper
it'll be in battle passes
Well, we’ll possibly find out tomorrow if someone brings it up
Because it also looks like a map behind them, but it’s probably not
Though, I also thought they were league team skins when I first saw them
peak escarp
they're winter/alpine variants of their OW2 classic looks
opal nexus
tracer with a hoodie and beanie bap clean af
past copper
Cool. I gotta say, I love Tracer’s, Sojourn’s, and Rein. Rein looking badass with the fur collar
We see these skins, along with Robin Hood Ashe and Little John BOB
I wonder what other skins will be dropped
Is it me, or do Robin Hood and Little John fit Ashe and BOB perfectly
fringe thistle
Kinda look like new winter uniforms. Maybe archives?
i assumed this would be from a winter pve mission
past copper
We’ll probably find out more tomorrow. IF someone brings it up
Which they probably won’t since there’s more important questions to ask
opal nexus
^
43 minutes long
past copper
Its not a Q and A
I mean if someone asked during the discussion. They always answer some questions they know the people would have
Like what new abilities will heroes have. What new maps to expect. What is there to know about new heroes. Etc
You know they’re gonna answer something on Junker Queen and at least bring up the hardlight fox everyone saw
Honestly, I’m curious to know if that was an ability or just a melee Junker Queen used to kill Orisa
opal nexus
what im most curious about junker queen is how her axe works
some shots its handle is short and in other shots its long
like does she have two axes or is the handle just telescopic 
fringe thistle
what im most curious about junker queen is how her axe works
some shots its hand...
she has multiple, as her ult shows
one is a hatchet
opal nexus
oh i thought that was just the effect of afterimages
fringe thistle
one is a full axe
opal nexus
fringe thistle
no, her ult is all her axes rotating around her magnetic gauntlet lol
opal nexus
damn thats pretty metal
peak escarp
she has one axe
past copper
It kinda look more like one axe
opal nexus
past copper
It can just turn into a hatchet
Pretty sure it is just supposed to be an after image thing with her ult
opal nexus
hmm taking a closer look at it yeah it looks like the handle can retract and extend
past copper
Honestly, as badass as that looks, I’m curious to know how effective it actually is
peak escarp
she carries the axe on her back - it has a telescoping handle
past copper
I’m hoping it’s not like Genji’s dragon blade
opal nexus
im hoping its a secondary weapon
we need more hammer torbs in this world
peak escarp
it appears as 3 axes to fill the space - similar to how Hanzo has 2 dragons to fill the space of the ult
past copper
im hoping its a secondary weapon
we need more hammer torbs in this world
I think she can use it as her melee attack
white cobalt
it appears as 3 axes to fill the space - similar to how Hanzo has 2 dragons to f...
It's like spinning fast effect with the electric stuff she have on her wrist
When she calls her weapon in the reveal.
peak escarp
yeah she's got an electromagnetic gauntlet
opal nexus
wonder if she made it herself
past copper
Heh. She’s like a mix between Thor and Jinx. She’s a total badass
peak escarp
maybe Bruce made it for her
past copper
What I’m curious about though, what are we to expect from her hatchet throw?
Will it do damage when it hits and when she calls it back?
peak escarp
we're getting off topic
past copper
Sorry. We all just love to finally see Junker Queen and I think we can all agree we wanna know everything about her
peak escarp
I want to know her lore
what's her real name? how old is she? how long has she been Queen?
opal nexus
some pre-wasteland lore would be quite neat
peak escarp
why doesn't she like Roadhog?
past copper
I kinda think she was queen for at least 2-3 years. We do see Junk and Hog in her short, which had to be before they actually knew each other as we saw from Hog’s comic
opal nexus
im guessing its a few years before ow1
since junkrat is still an adult there i think
past copper
We do have to add in some lore to try getting a read. This is just a rough timeline
Animated Short: The Wastelander
Roadhog Comic: Wasted Land
Animated Short: The Plan
Origin Short: Wrecking Ball
peak escarp
Wrecking Ball landed between 13 and 10 years ago (based on earliest known sighting of Winston on Earth), and became Champion after the Queen was already queen
Wasted Land is also after she became queen, and The Plan is after Wasted Land
Going Legit seems to be after they were exiled from Junkertown, so after The Plan
past copper
I wasn’t really counting Going Legit since I’m mostly looking at J. Queen’s timeline
And I really wasn’t sure where Hammond fit in between all that
opal nexus
yeah winston and hammond is a bit of a strange case
like theres just this unknown gray blob between winston landing on earth and then joining overwatch
past copper
I guess. Though, I would love to know what they’re reaction was to meeting a talking gorilla lol
opal nexus
like u know those mfs at overwatch saw a fucking intelligent gorilla fall from the sky in a pod and immediately went to try to examine him
HE LANDED IN GIBRALTAR?
"hmm yes this overwatch watchpoint in the middle of bumfuck nowhere will never be discovered by anyon- why is that thing in the sky getting closer?"
limpid agate
It wasnt really a secret base
past copper
Yea. None of the bases were secret
opal nexus
oh
past copper
The only thing secret about Overwatch was Blackwatch activity
limpid agate
No.
opal nexus
oh its right near spain
past copper
Isn’t Winston an intelligent scientist who built a makeshift rocket from a pod? Yes
Surely there’s a level of control on said pod to help land safely
quiet heart
Is Reinhardt a giant or is it just a big suit
opal nexus
reinhardt's pretty damn tall but the suit makes him way bigger
quiet heart
Ok thank you lol
past copper
Is Reinhardt a giant or is it just a big suit
It’s kinda a mix of both. The suit is big, but Rein is a large man
opal nexus
flashbacks to recall where they depict reinhardt as being a literal goliath in that winston graduation pic
that picture is so uncanny
old reinhardt and torb but young jack and ana
limpid agate
Yes.
fringe thistle
Is Reinhardt a giant or is it just a big suit
rein is 7'3
he is literally just built different
opal nexus
i swear gabe just doesnt age
fringe thistle
we have no clue what he looks like under the mask
peak escarp
this is what he looked like 5 years ago
if his face is that scarred, no wonder Ana was shocked
peak escarp
he was part of the same Soldier Enhancement Program as Soldier 76
they were close friends, until their friendship fell apart in the final years of Overwatch
quiet heart
Oh dam thanks
fringe thistle
they're old war buddies, iirc they both served in the us military
im not sure which branch either of them served in tho
jack went on to lead overwatch, a special organization formed by the UN in response to the omnic crisis, and gabe lead blackwatch, a covert black ops division
peak escarp
Reyes was the original leader of the Overwatch strike team during the crisis, but Jack proved to be a better leader, so after the crisis he was appointed Strike Commander
which Reyes was okay with - he didn't want all the red tape and bureaucracy
fringe thistle
jack is using his designation during his time in the us military, 76, when he becomes a vigilante
gabe's was 24
they probably had hundreds of soldiers in this program if it went all the way up to 76, so there are probably more out there
maybe even more in overwatch
peak escarp
how does 76 mean they had hundreds?
if they numbered them in order, it means they had at least 76 soldiers
fringe thistle
i meant there's probably a lot of them if it goes all the way up to 76 lol
opal nexus
safe to assume most of them died during the omnic crisis or whatever other conflicts there were
fringe thistle
or at least, jack was the 76th attempt. maybe there were a lot of failures
its clearly inspired by captain america
opal nexus
yeah they were pretty blatant about that sort of thing in the early days of OW hahaha
good ol metzen and his dreams of making a comic book universe
fringe thistle
honestly its actually crazy how this game's lore is so massive that we literally have 2 super soldiers with extensive backgrounds and that's... literally just a bullet point on their description
peak escarp
what do you mean "in the early days"
they're still pretty obvious with their references
fringe thistle
like, in any other franchise theyd make a full series about jack and gabe
opal nexus
ehhh good point
fringe thistle
but not ow lol
also yeah i thought sigma was a pretty clear magneto reference imo
opal nexus
just that statement from metzen saying "oh yeah pharah is like a captain america figure" just ringing in my head
fringe thistle
sigma is a reference to multiple comic villains
opal nexus
i wonder how long developing sigma took
considering they made the kit for mauga then shifted gears shortly after
fringe thistle
yeah they said sigma was slapped together unfortunately
peak escarp
the gameplay stuff came out of their ideas for Mauga
fringe thistle
because they were trying to do mauga but the thing they ended up creating didnt fit him
so they said ok lets just make this a new character
peak escarp
Nesskain said he had 6 weeks to do the illustrations for his origin trailer, which is why there's only 4 illustrations
fringe thistle
of all the characters in the game, sigma feels the most like a comic book character imo
i mean like he just straight up has gravity control
his design really invokes that as well
doomfist gives off killmonger and thanos vibes
stuff like that is what i really like, i love the comic feel this game goes for
opal nexus
he is such a gigachad
thank fuck this lore is a lot more coherent than most comic book lore
fringe thistle
honestly? its really surprising how well they pull it off
considering how much of an afterthought most of this was
you normally wouldnt expect deep lore from a game like this but im so glad its there
opal nexus
pve has to slap
fringe thistle
i think my favorite part of doomfist is he's brains AND brawn, and he's extremely charismatic and intimidating
opal nexus
love that archetype
fringe thistle
hes just a really cool villain
opal nexus
like bane from batman
they really have to play up talon as the intimidating puppet masters behind the uprising
fringe thistle
competent, powerful, highly intelligent, and scary to be up against
i hope we get some pve missions from the perspective of talon because i really wanna follow doom's pov
unfortunately i kinda doubt thatll happen but i have hope
opal nexus
the ultimate power fantasy would be solo doom wrecking an army of like helix soldiers or smth
fringe thistle
if we do get a talon pov i think it'll be from sombra's pov
overwatch usually likes to center on one character at a time to tell small scale stories so im interested to see how they handle a narrative this complex and big in scope
opal nexus
i hope they talk about the mysterious null sector guy from storm rising