#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 640

peak escarp May 10, 2022, 8:23 PM

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he said so himself

grand nimbus May 10, 2022, 8:26 PM

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Does anyone know where I can legitimate sources for OW lore?

tardy summit May 10, 2022, 8:26 PM

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!!lorehelp is the command I think?

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Shit

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!!loreguide

twilit nacelleBOT May 10, 2022, 8:27 PM

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This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

tardy summit May 10, 2022, 8:27 PM

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There

grand nimbus May 10, 2022, 8:29 PM

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Thank you @tardy summit !

limpid agate May 10, 2022, 8:29 PM

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grand nimbus Thank you <@723095912544469045> !

You can also use the !!lorelist command in #bot-commands

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Also, I havent updated loreguide in a while. There is one more important one

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!!NewBlood

twilit nacelleBOT May 10, 2022, 8:29 PM

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Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

grand nimbus May 10, 2022, 8:31 PM

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limpid agate You can also use the !!lorelist command in <#850378029339246692>

Thanks!!

tardy summit May 10, 2022, 8:32 PM

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grand nimbus Thank you <@723095912544469045> !

No problem:D

worthy rose May 10, 2022, 10:13 PM

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Still a girls name

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/ref

limpid agate May 10, 2022, 10:17 PM

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It's a surname

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His name is Cole

dim oracle May 11, 2022, 1:24 AM

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How do pharah and rein know eachother

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Pharah grew up around the Overwatch team

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Reinhardt and Ana were close friends

unkempt field May 11, 2022, 4:42 PM

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You act like a mod 💀

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 4:44 PM

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Im not. But that doesn't excuse misuse of the channel

worthy rose May 11, 2022, 5:33 PM

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^

high light May 11, 2022, 5:49 PM

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BROO

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i just found out there were multiple doomfist wielders

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or like

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multiple dooms

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whatever

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what was the other 2 mentality?

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the doomfist in game everyone knows (from what i heard at least) wants to make a war so humanity can evolve

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 5:52 PM

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the first Doomfist, Adhabu Ngumi "the Savior" was a hero during the omnic crisis
the second Doomfist, Akinjide Adeyemi "the Scourge" was a criminal and a member of Talon
the third and current Doomfist, Akande Ogundimu "the Successor" was mentored by Adeyemi and killed him to take the title

high light May 11, 2022, 5:53 PM

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peak escarp the first Doomfist, Adhabu Ngumi "the Savior" was a hero during the omnic crisis...

why did they kill each other though

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 5:54 PM

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we don't know what happened to the Savior

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the Successor killed the Scourge because he wanted to move up in ranks

high light May 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

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peak escarp the Successor killed the Scourge because he wanted to move up in ranks

but was it a conflict or it's their mentality

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i mean like

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were they just

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"kill me so you can take the honour and title"

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

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it was more "you lack vision, I'm going to kill you and take your place and do better than you"

high light May 11, 2022, 5:56 PM

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ah, so a conflict

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cause the succesor thought the job was poorly done

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is that the reason?

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

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we don't have a lot of info on it, but that's what I understand

high light May 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

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what was their objective though

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we know succesors objective

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what was the others 2

peak escarp May 11, 2022, 5:59 PM

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we don't know much about them

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 5:59 PM

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The Scourge seemed to be just a generic villain without motivation

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Which is part of why he was killed

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The Savior was a hero of Numbani

dim oracle May 11, 2022, 7:48 PM

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!lore

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!loreguide

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!!lore

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!!loreguide

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Bro what's the command

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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That is the command. You need to be in #bot-commands

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!!loreguide

twilit nacelleBOT May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

dim oracle May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Oh okay

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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You can also use the !!lorelist command in #bot-commands

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For a list of everything

dim oracle May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Ty

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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I'm gonna update the loreguide too, but before I do

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!!newblood

twilit nacelleBOT May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

limpid agate May 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

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You will want to read these

neon aurora May 12, 2022, 10:31 PM

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twilit nacelle Cassidy - New Blood: #1: <https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL> #2: <https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0> #...

#5 is the best 😉

kind plume May 13, 2022, 2:29 PM

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whats like the cronological order for all these comics?

karmic turret May 13, 2022, 2:45 PM

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neon aurora #5 is the best 😉

always

grand wedge May 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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kind plume whats like the cronological order for all these comics?

The only official thing we have is this (from 2017)

GDC_2017_-_FINAL_TIMELINE_plus_COMICS_ANIMATED_SHORTS.PNG

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If you ask for the Tracer comics, it happens before and after Alive - and the Cassidy comics happens after Reunion, and finish after Zero Hour.

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idk if some more fans have made their own chronology with the shorts/comics and cinematics

elder wasp May 13, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Was Winston born on the moon or on Earth?

kind plume May 13, 2022, 3:13 PM

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elder wasp Was Winston born on the moon or on Earth?

eartth prob idk

tardy summit May 13, 2022, 4:23 PM

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Is Ana's "you will fear me" elim voice line specific to widow?

past salmon May 13, 2022, 9:02 PM

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@karmic turret

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 9:14 PM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

karmic turret May 13, 2022, 9:43 PM

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past salmon <@324257600894009345>

yo

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:34 PM

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kind plume eartth prob idk

winston was made in space as well as hammond

kind plume May 13, 2022, 10:35 PM

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bitter elbow winston was made in space as well as hammond

oh

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:36 PM

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bitter elbow winston was made in space as well as hammond

No, they weren't.

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Do not answer questions you dont know the answer to.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:37 PM

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limpid agate Do not answer questions you dont know the answer to.

dont cry i just missed something

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:37 PM

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@kind plume@elder wasp Presumably they were born on Earth. Most of what is written about or on the map suggests that they were brought to the colony rather than born on it.

kind plume May 13, 2022, 10:37 PM

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ah

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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limpid agate <@578361968042180610><@184450952953069568> Presumably they were born on Earth. M...

i feel like ur either a discord kitten or you have one Xd

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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bitter elbow i feel like ur either a discord kitten or you have one Xd

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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limpid agate !!shitposting

i have a question for you

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Is it related to the lore of Overwatch?

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If not, don't ask it.

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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT May 13, 2022, 10:38 PM

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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:42 PM

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limpid agate !!shitposting

in OverWatch anthology Volume 1 Page 9 Part 1 After Someone Sent Train Bandits What were They Trying To steal?

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bet u cant answer that

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hehehe

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:42 PM

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u got this Taiga 🙏

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:43 PM

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There is no such thing as "The Onix"

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Please dont troll this channel.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:43 PM

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fine

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there

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read it again

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:43 PM

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We dont know. They never told us what the cube was.

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Its just a mcguffin

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Please dont troll this channel.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:44 PM

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i wasnt

mellow lily May 13, 2022, 10:44 PM

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This channel is exclusively for lore discussion.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:44 PM

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just asking a simple question

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how about this one

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same book

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page 20

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what is the name of the mans supposed daughter?

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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I dont own the book. Is this about the girl from Dragon Slayer?

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Her name was Hanna

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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what about her fathers name

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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what's with this gatekeeping

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Probably wasnt given.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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it was

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so

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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!!lorecomics

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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u dk?

twilit nacelleBOT May 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Comics Series 1:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG

Tracer - London Calling:
#1: https://bit.ly/3mknXBx
#2: https://bit.ly/318GEix
#3: https://bit.ly/3lorayj
#4: https://bit.ly/2MTe3JM
#5: https://bit.ly/3bD4dVi

Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:47 PM

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It wasn't given.

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:47 PM

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cove being sus ngl

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:48 PM

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yeah it was

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what was he

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:48 PM

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Can you be more specific about "X character on Y page"

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Are you talking about Brig?

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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no

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Or are you talking about the little girl

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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the man with the goggles

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Thats an unnamed bandit, not the girl's dad.

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The guy was using her as a fucking hostage.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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and how about this

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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@mellow lily They're not stopping.

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Can you please just get rid of the troll.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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just asking questions wow

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im interested

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you see

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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you're asking trivia that you can easily find the answer to yourself

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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no

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i cant

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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You are also trying to gaslight false info.

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Knock it off

iron plume May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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What is the actual point of those questions

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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just to find an answer 🙂

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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limpid agate You are also trying to gaslight false info.

hdyk

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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looool

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:51 PM

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limpid agate Knock it off

are u implying my thoughts

iron plume May 13, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Stop.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:52 PM

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in a court case this would be perfectly fitting of the objection "hearsay"

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anyways

iron plume May 13, 2022, 10:52 PM

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This isn't a court case.

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:52 PM

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why not

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oh righttt

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u guys are treating this like its the most serious thing ever

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correct

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Can you just get rid of the troll please so we can move on.

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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^

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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what troll

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again im asking questions

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not

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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True

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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gaslighting

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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worthy rose True

exactly

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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@bitter elbow In paragrah 2 of page 2 in the 4th box of New Blood pt. 5 what is Cass' real thoughts that the writer intended when writing him after eating their sandwich

iron plume May 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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@worthy rose Don't make this worse

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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😔

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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ok give me a minute

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:55 PM

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oh god dont fact check lmao

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:55 PM

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i will

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cass as in the name Casino?

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or cassidy

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:58 PM

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worthy rose oh god dont fact check lmao

?

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 10:58 PM

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oh no

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I meant Cassidy 😔

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 10:58 PM

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ok

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clarify which page

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does the cover count

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is this what you are mentioning

limpid agate May 13, 2022, 11:00 PM

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No, its a shitpost question, he isnt in the first half of that chapter

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Knock it off

bitter elbow May 13, 2022, 11:01 PM

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yes cause i was going to say that cassidy wasnt located in that first section you provided

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:16 PM

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anyway

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I hope Blizz has something great in store story-wise for Talon

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I really love the characters but, like, it's annoying seeing them taking Ls all the time?

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Like I get they can't win but still aa

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:17 PM

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I want to find out what's up with Maximilien

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we saw a tiny clip of him having doubts in the 2019 trailer

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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do u think we're going to get Magua in the beta warlord

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not really lore related but

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The shortlist is Magua and Junkerqueen right

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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I think Mauga is likely to be a hero

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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both most likely Tanks

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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whether at launch, or later...

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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then again I could see Magua being DPS

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like big doesn't = tank does it

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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typically

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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hm, we'll see

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I coulda sworn there was a third hero on my shortlist

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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there is the hypothetical Kanezaka Girl

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:20 PM

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oh fox chick right

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I think I was thinking of MEKA too

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:20 PM

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I don't think MEKA has a high chance

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:20 PM

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One Pilot hero is so wasted

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give us another Blizz plss

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I love the concept

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and since OW2 has only one tank i really think another could be added

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since it wouldn't be D.va + ___

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:21 PM

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the biggest reason is that D.Va herself is a programming nightmare, and another mech hero with the same pilot mode would be just as much trouble

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:21 PM

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oh TRUE

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:21 PM

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and having a MEKA pilot without their mech wouldn't make sense

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:21 PM

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I remember Jeff saying that Echo's Duplicate not allowing for hero switching for a bit was like

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unsurmountable

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:22 PM

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peak escarp and having a MEKA pilot without their mech wouldn't make sense

yeah true

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eh, maybe one day

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ill hold out hope for it

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:22 PM

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maybe eventually

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:22 PM

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I wonder if Echo would've had Duplicate as a Support?

peak escarp May 13, 2022, 11:23 PM

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that's why she was made a Damage hero

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they didn't want the team lose a Support hero every time she ulted

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tbh her appearance in Zero Hour didn't scream support to me, so the decision was probably made before that

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:24 PM

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No yeah I think so too

worthy rose May 13, 2022, 11:25 PM

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peak escarp they didn't want the team lose a Support hero every time she ulted

Huh, that does make sense to me

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I wonder if a Support!Echo player would feel more inclined to duplicate a support hero

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or go for a tank like they do in OW1 (i assume)

limpid agate May 14, 2022, 1:11 AM

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In a world without role lock, it wouldnt matter

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In the meantime, we have to see what happens with the Queen

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 1:12 AM

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based solely on her lore, the Queen won't be a support

limpid agate May 14, 2022, 1:12 AM

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I mean about the whole mech part

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Gladitorial Mech Champion and all

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 1:14 AM

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I'll be disappointed if that isn't incorporated into her kit in some way

limpid agate May 14, 2022, 1:15 AM

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Its a big part of why I am discounting existing leaks

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That, and they keep talking about a sword

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Instead of the axe we've literally seen already

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Plus other leaks keep acting as though Blizz will literally call her "Junkerqueen"

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Which is a fan nickname

elder wasp May 14, 2022, 7:57 AM

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limpid agate <@578361968042180610><@184450952953069568> Presumably they were born on Earth. M...

Thank you

elder wasp May 14, 2022, 8:01 AM

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peak escarp based solely on her lore, the Queen won't be a support

Weren't everyone 100% sure Echo would be a support based on her lore?

sonic smelt May 14, 2022, 8:04 AM

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what's ana's story?

limpid agate May 14, 2022, 8:55 AM

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elder wasp Weren't everyone 100% sure Echo would be a support based on her lore?

It was based on Jeff implying she was on stream

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That was around a year before role queue

elder wasp May 14, 2022, 8:56 AM

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Ah, ok, I misremember it then

sullen ingot May 14, 2022, 3:45 PM

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why is name cassidy when actual name mccree

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Cole Cassidy is his real name

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Jesse McCree was his fake name

worthy rose May 14, 2022, 4:45 PM

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sullen ingot why is name cassidy when actual name mccree

The guy the hero was named after did some messed up shit so the company thought up a new story and name to clear the hero’s name and not have it associated with a evil person

pseudo grove May 14, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Tell me some facts about Mercy. :)

remote magnet May 14, 2022, 5:11 PM

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she has had some beef with moria about science

pseudo grove May 14, 2022, 5:11 PM

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remote magnet she has had some beef with moria about science

Really? How so.

remote magnet May 14, 2022, 5:12 PM

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im not fully sure i just remember that conversation before match

pseudo grove May 14, 2022, 5:12 PM

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Ah okay! :)

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Mercy thinks Moira is unethical

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and she is

karmic turret May 14, 2022, 7:18 PM

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i like the ying and yang moira and mercy have together

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

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yeah

past copper May 14, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Yeah. Probably why someone in devs made this spray to represent that Yin Yang

karmic turret May 14, 2022, 11:29 PM

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past copper Yeah. Probably why someone in devs made this spray to represent that Yin Yang

i love the mercy moira sprays

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i wish they did some for jack and gabriel

peak escarp May 14, 2022, 11:30 PM

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they have a few

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these two go together

timid eagle May 15, 2022, 12:18 AM

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peak escarp these two go together

Also a pretty funny Contra reference, to boot!

worthy rose May 15, 2022, 12:29 AM

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Someone can tell me what happened after retribution?

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Because Reyes and yeah, the killing thing

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 12:43 AM

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worthy rose Someone can tell me what happened after retribution?

Moira was forced out, Blackwatch was suspended, and Jack lost trust in Reyes

worthy rose May 15, 2022, 12:47 AM

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peak escarp Moira was forced out, Blackwatch was suspended, and Jack lost trust in Reyes

So basically, when Moira and Reyes go out, they get into Talon?

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 12:48 AM

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Moira first

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Reyes doesn't go for a few more years, when he and Jack start a fight that leads to the Swiss HQ exploding

worthy rose May 15, 2022, 12:49 AM

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peak escarp Reyes doesn't go for a few more years, when he and Jack start a fight that leads...

Oh okay, tysm

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 12:53 AM

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Reyes is nearly killed in the explosion, but Moira is able to save his life with a concentrated dose of the serum that gave him wraith powers

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we don't know what happened to Jack in the explosion, but he survived somehow

worthy rose May 15, 2022, 12:58 AM

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peak escarp we don't know what happened to Jack in the explosion, but he survived somehow

Are the scars on Jack's face from that explosion?

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 1:01 AM

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worthy rose Are the scars on Jack's face from that explosion?

probably

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there's yet another parallel between Mercy and Moira

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Mercy saved Genji's life
Moira saved Reyes's life

silk frost May 15, 2022, 3:04 AM

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btw might seem trivial but do we know how exactly widowmaker killed her husband

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was it literally just by shooting him or some other method

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 3:05 AM

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she killed him in his sleep

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she wasn't a sniper yet

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she probably just smothered him with a pillow, or stabbed him

silk frost May 15, 2022, 3:06 AM

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so she suffocated/strangled him?

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ohhh yeah figures

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but as far as i understand the ppl that discovered her husband's dead body didnt realise it was her that killed him right?

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since they then reckoned her absence was due to her being kidnapped again

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 3:07 AM

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nope, they thought she was kidnapped again

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and/or dead

silk frost May 15, 2022, 3:07 AM

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yeahhh thought so

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alright then

past copper May 15, 2022, 4:27 AM

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The only one who seemed to figure it out too little too late was Ana before or after her “death”

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At least, that’s how it looked

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When she learned the identity of the sniper taking out her fellow agents

tall sleet May 15, 2022, 4:40 AM

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why did moira leave overwatch/blackwatch?

peak escarp May 15, 2022, 4:40 AM

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because she wasn't supposed to be there in the first place

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Overwatch shut down her unethical research, then Reyes hired her into Blackwatch behind their backs

tall sleet May 15, 2022, 4:41 AM

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oooh

naive willow May 15, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Anyone know lore on reaper and junk?

worn island May 15, 2022, 10:28 AM

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junk doesnt have a whole lot, the main thing of interest is the "treasure" he found

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and reaper has a short story

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that gives good background

lofty oriole May 15, 2022, 12:21 PM

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so i have been rewatching the shorts and i would just like to say:

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"You DARE to lecture ME about honor? You are not WORTHY to SAY his NAME!
awesome musical riff plays

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RYU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU!!!!!!!!!!!

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damn that scene is so cool

cunning ledge May 15, 2022, 12:24 PM

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best cinematic

lofty oriole May 15, 2022, 12:29 PM

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also

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RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE!!!!!!!!!

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:26 AM

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i love dragons

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“only a shimada can control the dragons…who are you?”

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 12:31 AM

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I like Reunion best

cunning ledge May 16, 2022, 12:34 AM

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Reunion is probably my second favourite, and then Zero Hour third

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Kinda hard to rank them all when they are trying to do different things sometimes

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The Last Bastion is incredible but not the same kind of thing as Recall or whatever

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:38 AM

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mine’s a tie between dragons and zero hour

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i do love the shimada family theme tho its so badass

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https://youtu.be/NXlSsRrCe-I

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HOTS gets to have it but we don’t genjicry

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 12:42 AM

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The Last Bastion is my favourite

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an absolute masterpiece

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not a single word of dialogue, but so much emotion conveyed

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:44 AM

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its a pretty good silent short film

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 12:44 AM

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and the cinematography 😩

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soooooo good

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I could write a whole essay on why it is amazing

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:46 AM

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im sure people have in college classes

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i would totally choose ow to write my thesis on for animation or game design

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 12:48 AM

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for sure

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I used Overwatch as an example in a video essay about women in gaming and how they're typically underrepresented as playable characters (Overwatch being a rare exception)

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:49 AM

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oh no representation reminds me of that chart

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💀

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 12:50 AM

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you mean the one that means nothing and isnt used by the devs?

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:50 AM

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it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when i think of diversity in ow

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i know it has nothing to do with the devs but it feels gross

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 12:51 AM

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Overwatch was used as an example because it has good diversity

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:51 AM

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unironically ow has the best diversity of any video game

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when’s the last time we got a dutch or haitian creole speaker in a game

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or swedish

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i really like that there are so many fluent speaking vas that get to speak their language in game

peak escarp May 16, 2022, 1:01 AM

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the casting in this game is pretty great

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the majority of the heroes are voiced by a VA who shares their hero's nationality or ethnicity

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only 12 don't: Doomfist, Orisa, Reinhardt, Pharah, Mercy, Junkrat, Lucio, Roadhog, Sombra, Torbjorn, Zarya and Echo

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and of those 12, 3 (Mercy Sombra and Zarya) are at least speakers of their hero's native language

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 1:22 AM

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man when are we getting the ow animated series in this artstyle

https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI

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i want a netflix series so bad

serene badger May 16, 2022, 1:29 AM

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@nocturne elk

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hey

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i love lore

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its my life

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live laugh love

nocturne elk May 16, 2022, 1:32 AM

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i like mccree in the lore

worthy rose May 16, 2022, 1:55 AM

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Me too. I like him mostly for his style though

silk frost May 16, 2022, 3:29 AM

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fringe thistle man when are we getting the ow animated series in this artstyle https://youtu.b...

speaking of, is '88503' at the start just some sort of cell/prisoner number? or is there more significance to it?

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 3:31 AM

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The former

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But callbacks were made back to it later, such as in Hero of Numbani

silk frost May 16, 2022, 3:31 AM

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ok cool

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 3:54 AM

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yeah i didnt think it was significant iirc

nocturne sedge May 16, 2022, 4:33 AM

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fringe thistle man when are we getting the ow animated series in this artstyle https://youtu.b...

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL

lofty oriole May 16, 2022, 9:27 AM

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just in general we need an overwatch animated series

past copper May 16, 2022, 10:30 AM

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There was supposedly talks going on in Netflix back in 2019, but after that zip

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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after bone getting cancelled and NF animation tanking in general i dont have much hope

past copper May 16, 2022, 11:45 AM

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Firstly, I think you mean Bones. Second, Netflix doesn’t make the animations, they just produce the shows

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And that’s not true. Shows like Arcane and The Dragon Prince are great and I’d love to see an Overwatch series done in similar design

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:23 PM

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no? i said bone

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https://collider.com/bone-adaptation-cancelled-jeff-smith-netflix/#:~:text=Netflix will no longer be,was first announced in 2019.

Collider

'Bone': TV Adaptation of Jeff Smith Comic Series Cancelled by Netflix

The series was going to be based on the 1991-2004 graphic novel series.

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and they fired a bunch of their animation staff

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their animation department is not looking good rn

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 12:39 PM

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Netflix does have an animation department, yes. But they mostly work with existing studios rather than make stuff themselves.

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And most of the big things on Netflix are made by other studios, such as Fortiche (Arcane), Studio Mir (Witcher, Dota), Powerhouse (Castlevania) or Bardel (The Dragon Prince mentioned earlier) still... Make their own stuff outside netflix animation.

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Netflix Animation is 1 studio that doesn't fully develop much on their own.

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If Blizzard were to make an Overwatch show, I would imagine they would NOT go with Netflix Animation anyways, and instead either do it themselves or find a smaller studio to do it for them like Riot did with Fortiche.

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:45 PM

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id want them to use the same studio that did the DF short

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i dont think the in house CGI shorts are sustainable for a tv show lasting many seasons imo

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 12:45 PM

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When I said small studio, I didnt mean that small.

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:46 PM

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i think an ow show would be better in 2d than 3d

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because i think their standard for CGI is way too high quality so episodes would take forever

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 12:48 PM

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They would most likely outsource it.

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Probably not to that studio though.

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That studio is a bit too small, they only make trailers and short films (10 minutes)

fringe thistle May 16, 2022, 12:49 PM

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the studio that did the DF short?

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 12:49 PM

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Yes.

limpid agate May 16, 2022, 11:34 PM

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/incomplete-list-of-potential-heroes-year-7-edition/670250

Overwatch Forums

(In)Complete list of Potential Heroes - Year 7 Edition

Year 6 of Overwatch is coming to a close, and it looks to be the final full year of Overwatch 1. With the series of betas underway (I’m expecting beta 2 to drop June 7th,) we should finally start getting some new heroes and content. Its been two years since the last hero reveal, so this list has been growing without many additions, but it looks ...

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I've posted my annual hero speculation list.

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Hopefully this year I will be able to edit it more.

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The only things I did over the past year was add and remove Frankie, and remove Iggy.

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I might add that Roman gladiator Zephyrus once someone makes a post in his favour.

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 1:49 AM

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For a list of images from this, we have:

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The confirmed 2:

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Junkerqueen

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Mauga

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For the likely group:

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A Kanezaka hero. Either Asa Yamagami or her daughter. Possibly the rumoured hero with fox motifs

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The presumed leader of Null Sector. I liked to call them Predator based on their design.

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Hamid Faisal. No known face, just their logo.

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For the honourable mentions... I might reduce this list later. But for now:

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Sanjay Korpal, my personal most wanted hero

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Lynx-17. Their popularity has waned. I dont think they're as likely anymore, but they're still better than most characters.

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Kace. Probably the first to go once I prune my list

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Sven.

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The MEKA Pilots.

Casino - Most interesting story potential
Overlord - Most interesting gameplay potential
King - Most interesting weapon
D.Mon - Is a girl

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And finally, Analyst Nguyen. He isn't very likely, but has good potential and I would love to see them revisist him.

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@atomic tree for the list of images.

atomic tree May 17, 2022, 2:23 AM

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limpid agate <@341572296290467841> for the list of images.

Thanks!

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:28 AM

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limpid agate The MEKA Pilots. - Casino - Most interesting story potential - Overlord - Most i...

LMAO “Is a girl”

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💀💀💀

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:33 AM

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that is a large part of why people like her

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:44 AM

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that sounds so shallow i can’t take it seriously lol

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“cool lore”
“cool gameplay”
“cool gun”
“the girl one”

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:45 AM

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it's a bit cliche

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but it's true

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people like her because they think she's D.Va's rival and/or love interest

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 3:53 AM

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Neither of which is true.

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She's the most popular of the 4, and its because she's a girl

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 4:17 AM

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New hero

tall sleet May 17, 2022, 7:23 AM

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limpid agate Sven.

who is this

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where he from

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 7:24 AM

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That is Sven

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He was in Torb's comic, Destroyer

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He was a member of the Ironclad Guild who took a lot of short cuts, and was more profit oriented

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The writers said that we havent seen the last of him quite a while ago, I would have to dig up that source

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 7:39 AM

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For kit potential, he is a member of the ironclad guild, so he could always be a builder. In the comic, he had drones, so he could be a more offensive builder than Torb. Likewise, he had a stun gun, which may be a part of his kit

tall sleet May 17, 2022, 8:21 AM

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derailing convo a bit but

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how many ppl are aware that reaper is gabriel reyes? do any of his talon mates besides sombra know

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 8:24 AM

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Yes.

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Moira obviously knows because she's responsible in part for his condition

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And Doomfist knows because he's the one who recruited him.

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Widowmaker probably doesn't know, and I don't think he ever met Baptiste or Sigma (at least not beyond the collection mission where they dont interact.)

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 8:52 AM

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the post overwatch people don’t know

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tho sombra knows because she’s sombra and knows everything

iron plume May 17, 2022, 8:52 AM

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Soldier and Ana know

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 8:53 AM

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it’s actually kinda funny that gabriel only seems mildly annoyed when sombra calls him gabe

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“What’s the plan today, Gabe? You don’t mind if I call you Gabe, do you?”
“…Stick to the mission.”

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i do think it’s interesting that both doomfist and reaper are somewhat aware of what sombra’s doing, they just don’t care

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https://youtu.be/79FBWAjpUOU&t=3m6s

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limpid agate May 17, 2022, 9:19 AM

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Mercy knows too

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I missed that half of the question

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The full list of people who know are Doomfist, Moira, Sombra, Soldier 76, Ana, and Mercy.

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Although Mercy presumably told the rest of Winston's Recalled Overwatch team

cosmic crest May 17, 2022, 9:44 AM

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She'd better have

viral hawk May 17, 2022, 9:49 AM

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Couldn't it be that mercy's too scared to tell teh others?

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 9:55 AM

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Why

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That makes no sense

silent pivot May 17, 2022, 9:57 AM

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genji father lore??

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 9:58 AM

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Sojiro. Talon tried to recruit him, but he never bought into their temptations.

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He died, and his death caused a power struggle that led to the clan elders forcing Hanzo into "killing" Genji.

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He was described as a pretty good leader and respected by the people of Tokyo.

silent pivot May 17, 2022, 10:00 AM

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o cool

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thanks

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 12:47 PM

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Man

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If OW never entered its shitty 3-4 year half-life we could have ALL these characters yall mentioned as heroes at this point

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Another MEKA Pilot
Sven
Hanzo's father
Magua
"Junkerqueen"
Fox Girl

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 1:38 PM

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sojiro is dead though

digital forum May 17, 2022, 2:11 PM

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fringe thistle sojiro is dead though

I wouldn't be surprised if it was another 76, Ana, or Reaper situation again though 😂

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:22 PM

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hmm

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:32 PM

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fringe thistle sojiro is dead though

They said characters can die and still be a playable hero

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Idk if they said anything about already-dead characters tho

cunning ledge May 17, 2022, 2:36 PM

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an already dead character would obviously not become a hero lol

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the only exception would be if the character is super important but has to die in the story, which i could only imagine happening to the null sector guy right now

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still unlikely

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:39 PM

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Sojiro suddenly being alive would invalidate Genji/Hanzo's entire story

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:44 PM

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^

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:45 PM

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same goes for Gerard, Dr. Harold Winston and Antonio

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and Mondatta

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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omg if gerard was alive lmfao

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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these characters deaths had huge impacts on the heroes

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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peak escarp and Mondatta

how do we tell em

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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there's also the issue of explaining where the hell they've been this whole time

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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fringe thistle how do we tell em

??

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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oh no

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they don’t know

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💀

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:47 PM

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oh you mean the "Mondatta Lives" grafitti on Toronto?

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:47 PM

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oh you do know

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ye

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:47 PM

#

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just because you say it and write slogans, doesn't make it true

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:48 PM

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guess_what

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im skeptical on it tbh

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:48 PM

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peak escarp Sojiro suddenly being alive would invalidate Genji/Hanzo's entire story

no i mean

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:48 PM

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Mondatta was a spiritual leader, of course his followers would believe that his soul lives on

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:48 PM

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just making him playable

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not in-story

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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ehh

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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like all his story could be additional lore and to give genji and hanzo more around em

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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its such a weird choice to have that mondatta lives thing

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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or smth

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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it would be weird playing a character that we know is canonically dead

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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nah

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^

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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you think so?

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hm

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Idk I don't cause OW1 (the gameplay)

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isn't canon

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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also you would you explain in game interactions

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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also we have enough heroes from that family

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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none of those are canon

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usually

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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is he just not going to talk to hanzo and genji

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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interactions are hypothetical

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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It'd be more like a what-if

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exactly

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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“father i thought you were dead”
“well actually i faked my death”

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its just odd

worthy rose May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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hmm i see that

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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considering he really is dead

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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also, we don't know enough about Sojiro to say that he would be a good hero candidate

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he could have been a pacifist

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:51 PM

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sojiro was probably more powerful than hanzo and genji

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at least human genji anyway

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idk about cyborg genji because cyborg genji is op

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:52 PM

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Sojiro was the head of a crime family

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politically powerful, sure

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:52 PM

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sojiro was the one who trained hanzo and genji

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:52 PM

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but not likely to be physically powerful

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:52 PM

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fringe thistle sojiro was the one who trained hanzo and genji

incorrect

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Hanzo and Genji were trained by Asa Yamagami

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:53 PM

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wait really

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who tf is that

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wtf

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:53 PM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/

Overwatch

[CORRESPONDENCE] Post for Toshiro Yamagami

As winter leads to spring, let me write a letter of lightness. Perhaps it will grant us both a little peace, even as I turn my blade to keeping the peace here from shattering altogether. -Asa

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But when it was clear my soul longed for the sword and I excelled at kenjutsu, the Shimada chose me over all others as their swordmaster.

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:54 PM

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well shit maybe asa is stronger than the shimada brothers

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:54 PM

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There are moments when I can scarce believe the world in which I walk now: You, making beautiful work for undeserving pigs. I, who trained the scions of Sojiro Shimada, forced to turn my swordmaster’s blade against my own.

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:54 PM

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id love to see asa in ow2

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:55 PM

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she could be the Kanezaka hero people keep talking about

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either her or her daugher, who is also mentioned in the letter

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 2:55 PM

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that’s exactly what i was thinking tbh

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it makes sense

iron plume May 17, 2022, 2:57 PM

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Mondatta lives is definitely a "followers believing in the spirit/keeping him alive through their faith" deal

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You can see "Цой жив" graffities on walls in most ex-Soviet countries to this day
I saw one across my house the whole time growing up

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 2:59 PM

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“Yes,” Zenyatta replied, seemingly untroubled by her blunt statement.
“Before that, I did not realize omnics could die. You are machines; I had assumed you could replace parts.”
“In theory, yes. But replacement parts have yet to be found for a soul, be it
human…or omnic.”```

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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i hope they finally explain the iris

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and what zen can actually do

iron plume May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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I hope they don't

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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we know zen can apparently heal so

iron plume May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Whatever it is it's better off as a mystery

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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I don't think the Iris needs to be explained

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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we basically know nothing about zen

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i just want some clarification on stuff

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what is his healing

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is transcendence an actual thing

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wb discord

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:01 PM

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discord and harmony orb are just gameplay things

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have you read Stone by Stone?

iron plume May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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well
there is mercy asking about it

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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iron plume well there *is* mercy asking about it

thats why i brought it up

iron plume May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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Which threw a bit of a wrench in that
but yes

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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and zen basically gives mercy a non answer

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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it's possible Zenyatta has ways of healing that aren't represented in the game

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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“well idk how do YOU heal”

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:02 PM

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or his healing is a psychological effect, not a physical one

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:03 PM

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we dont even know if lucio can heal

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:03 PM

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so far he hasn't in the lore

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:03 PM

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tho i imagine his music might like restore stamina

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like energize you

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:04 PM

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that's the idea

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:04 PM

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i cant see lucio literally healing wounds with his music lmao

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a u d i o m e d i c

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Brigitte is similar - she can do first aid (she does for Reinhardt), but her Inspire is supposed to represent her encouragement

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:06 PM

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yeah to me inspire was obvious

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but repair pack is def an actual thing

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:07 PM

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Mercy, Ana, Baptiste and Moira are the heroes that actually heal

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with nanobiotics

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:07 PM

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bap?

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:07 PM

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fixed

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:08 PM

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i was like im sure baps gun is not gameplay only lol

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he probably uses the same stuff as ana

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who stole it from mercy

iron plume May 17, 2022, 3:09 PM

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Ana didn't steal it

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or rather she did but not from Mercy

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:09 PM

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she didn’t get it from mercy?

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:09 PM

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Torbjorn made a rifle that shoots nanobiotics against Mercy's wishes

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that rifle was put in storage and Ana stole it later

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:10 PM

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ah that makes more sense

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:10 PM

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fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:10 PM

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i still think its kinda crazy ana was more of a “dps” before she got that rifle

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Angela didn't want her technology weaponized

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:11 PM

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it means captain amari and sniper ana are technically breaking lore rules lol

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:11 PM

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technically so is Reaper's Soldier: 24 skin, since he didn't have wraith powers back then

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:12 PM

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sparrow genji shouldnt double jump

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genjiweird

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:12 PM

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yeah there's a few skins that don't make sense lorewise

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:12 PM

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i never got how genji’s “human” skins work

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how are illidan and sparrow genji’s gauntlets supposed to work

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 3:13 PM

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the bracer contains a mechanism to dispense shurikens

fringe thistle May 17, 2022, 3:13 PM

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ok now im just overthinking it

quartz trellis May 17, 2022, 8:13 PM

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are the comics worth reading?

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havent read one since the tracer one that came with the event

somber scroll May 17, 2022, 8:38 PM

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I'd say so

limpid agate May 17, 2022, 8:44 PM

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Yes

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The Tracer one was not

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But most of them are

quartz trellis May 17, 2022, 9:19 PM

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i really really want an overwatch animated series

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like bad

past copper May 17, 2022, 9:38 PM

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We’ve already discussed the series thing, I wouldn’t get your hopes up

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Netflix supposedly leaked something about making shows for Overwatch and Diablo back in 2019

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But there’s never been anything else since then

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Even if there was a series in the works, that same leak also hinted at it being done by the creators of Skylanders Academy

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So now, I’m pretty skeptical. Of the show in general or the choice in creators, idk

peak escarp May 17, 2022, 10:28 PM

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considering Netflix closed their animation studio

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any series would have to be outsourced

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I'd prefer Blizzard to handle it themselves - their story department does amazing things

past copper May 18, 2022, 12:17 AM

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True. Now, I can’t speak for Skylanders Academy, but the animation seems a little too low budget

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At least compared to Overwatch animated shorts

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Though, some have said they’d want a series done in the same animated style as Arcane

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Which I agree with. That show is dope, so I’d bet the creators could do Overwatch the same kinda justice

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 12:21 AM

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the artist who did Arcane is the same guy who does Overwatch origin trailers

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Nesskain

past copper May 18, 2022, 12:32 AM

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Then that’s the one you want doing a series for Overwatch

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Though, considering they’re probably busy working on Arcane season 2 and OW2 doesn’t seem to be dropping until next year, I don’t think we’ll get a series any time soon

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I say that, bc between needing an era in OW to start a series in and needing to know every character, both current and coming

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We probably wouldn’t get a series at least until after OW2 comes out

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 12:36 AM

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i want more golden age ow flashbacks as well

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like that shit is cool af

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i wanna see young ana and jack in their prime kicking ass

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imo they would have a filler episode for most of the major characters showing their backstory

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 12:38 AM

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We'll get some of that with the Sojourn novel

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 12:38 AM

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how cole first joined the deadlock gang and then blackwatch

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jack and gabe’s days in the us military

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more of reinhardt’s crusader days

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like the brief glimpses we got make such interesting backstories

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 12:40 AM

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fringe thistle how cole first joined the deadlock gang and then blackwatch

Cole joining Deadlock is covered in Deadlock Rebels

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 12:40 AM

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or even stuff like how torbjorn and cassidy lost their arms

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yea but i mean like, animated

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 12:41 AM

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he started the gang with Ashe and a few others

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 12:42 AM

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they’ve been teasing how torb and cass lost their arms forever

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especially cass

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there’s like 4 conversations in game that are basically “cole how did you lose your arm”
“none of your business”

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 12:48 AM

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they probably won't animate things that are already covered by other media

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we already know how Torb lost his arm

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it was lost during Operation: White Dome

somber scroll May 18, 2022, 1:13 AM

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I'm still wonder who the omnic Doomfist was talking to at the end of Storm Rising was

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 1:14 AM

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somber scroll I'm still wonder who the omnic Doomfist was talking to at the end of Storm Risin...

he's implied to be the leader of Null Sector

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we'll definitely see more of him

silent pivot May 18, 2022, 2:25 AM

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another mcflurry

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(yes ik its a icecream(

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 2:26 AM

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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT May 18, 2022, 2:26 AM

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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

silent pivot May 18, 2022, 2:28 AM

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peak escarp !!loreonly

ok give lore about mcree

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 2:28 AM

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McCree

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he's implied to be a runaway teen, he started a gang with Ashe and a few others, they got busted by Overwatch and he was given the choice of jail or being recruited to Blackwatch

silent pivot May 18, 2022, 2:29 AM

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sry

silent pivot May 18, 2022, 2:30 AM

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peak escarp he's implied to be a runaway teen, he started a gang with Ashe and a few others,...

o

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Jesse McCree was the name he took when he left home - his real name is Cole Cassidy

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 3:07 AM

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didn’t he grow up on a farm

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i remember him and ashe talking and ashe says smth like “where would you be without me” and he says “probably still on a farm”

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 3:08 AM

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he did farm work, yeah

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 3:09 AM

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kinda crazy that ashe is the reason he ever joined blackwatch

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 3:09 AM

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in an indirect way

past copper May 18, 2022, 4:42 AM

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Anyone else think Cole is perfect leader material for the new Overwatch?

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 4:43 AM

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lol no

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he's not a leader at all

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Winston, Reinhardt or Sojourn would be far better qualified

past copper May 18, 2022, 4:45 AM

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Winston and Sojourn. Maybe. Maybe even Mercy. But I highly doubt Reinhardt

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 4:45 AM

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Reinhardt was one of the original founders

past copper May 18, 2022, 4:46 AM

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True. But he seems less of a leader after the Crisis

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Also, here’s a thought. They might change Sojourn’s real name

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Reason being, Sojourn’s real name is Vivian Chase. And there was a Vivian Chase irl who was a gangster in the 1920s and 1930s

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Blizzard might have to tread carefully with Sojourn’s real name, least it turns into another McCree situation

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 4:58 AM

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that's not at all the same

tall sleet May 18, 2022, 4:58 AM

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Didn't ana want cassidy to be a leader for small little team

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of like pharah and dva or am i remembering wrong

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 4:59 AM

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the rule is to not name heroes after devs

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some historical person coincidentally having the same name doesn't matter

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:00 AM

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tall sleet Didn't ana want cassidy to be a leader for small little team

Ana sent him to recruit new blood to Overwatch

tall sleet May 18, 2022, 5:00 AM

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ooh

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:00 AM

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so they could join Winston's Overwatch

tall sleet May 18, 2022, 5:00 AM

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winston best leader

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we stan winston

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:05 AM

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past copper Reason being, Sojourn’s real name is Vivian Chase. And there was a Vivian Chase ...

if you search any hero's name you'll probably find some living person with the same name

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for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morrison_(wrestler)

John Morrison (wrestler)

John Randall Hennigan (born October 3, 1979) is an American professional wrestler and actor, better known by the ring name John Morrison. He is best known for his time in WWE, where he was a contracted performer from 2002 to 2011, and 2019 to 2021.Hennigan won Tough Enough III (a WWE reality TV competition show that awarded winners a wrestling c...

past copper May 18, 2022, 5:37 AM

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That’s different tho. Vivian Chase was an actual criminal and while I’m sure the devs won’t use the names of devs, it’s probably implied to not use the names of actual people

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We’ll just have to wait and see as the beta progresses and the actual game drops

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:39 AM

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Vivian Chase is an actual criminal

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so is Butch Cassidy

past copper May 18, 2022, 5:41 AM

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Yeah, and yet his name is Cole Cassidy. And for the record, people are mixed on Butch Cassidy being a criminal or western Robin Hood

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Keep this in mind though, Blizzard has made it an obligation to censor or remove anything having to do with real life people or, in Zarya’s case, current situations between two countries

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:43 AM

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they never said they were removing references to real life people

past copper May 18, 2022, 5:48 AM

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We’ll see. Because I’m willing to bet someone who looks up Sojourn’s real name is gonna get taken to Vivian Chase the gangster and make a big deal out of it

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People love to say negative stuff about Overwatch lately idk why

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 5:48 AM

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it's not going to change

foggy furnace May 18, 2022, 7:05 AM

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Someone enlighten me. When Ana survived her encounter with Widowmaker, did anyone from Overwatch other than Jack and “Cassidy” know about her survival? Lore wise, she went into hiding and later on down the line, Jack, Reyes, Cassidy, and Pharah knew she was still alive. However, there are interaction voice lines in both OW1 and OW2 that imply as if EVERYONE was long aware of her existence, kind of contradicting the fact that she led everyone believe she was dead.

tardy summit May 18, 2022, 7:19 AM

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Interaction voice lines are not canon.

iron plume May 18, 2022, 8:13 AM

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^ Interactions are a what-if
So we can judge character pretty well from them but not events/situations
Reinhardt would be surprised at her being alive if he knew
but he doesn't

high light May 18, 2022, 12:00 PM

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so, are zenyattas abilities built in him somehow or he achieved them at some point in the story?

tardy summit May 18, 2022, 12:22 PM

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Afaik they aren't canon

high light May 18, 2022, 12:28 PM

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so, he doesn't have any in the lore?

grand wedge May 18, 2022, 2:18 PM

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For now he doesn’t.

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 2:45 PM

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zen can heal

karmic turret May 18, 2022, 3:30 PM

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not all heals are physical

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all bar 3 have physical healing

limpid agate May 18, 2022, 4:35 PM

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To elaborate on that

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Mercy, Ana, Baptiste, and Moira all use Mercy's biotic tech, or adaptations of it (so does Soldier 76)

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Lucio is incapable of healing

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Brig is a mechanic that can do first aid. This is not relevant to either of her gameplay abilities.

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Zenyatta is capable of healing in a way Mercy doesn't understand. However, Discord orb is explicitly not canon, and Transcendence is implied to be based on Symmetra's hard light tech.

opaque scroll May 18, 2022, 8:14 PM

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peak escarp for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morrison_(wrestler)

why does he look like a mix of Nick Cage and Hulk Hogan to me

past copper May 18, 2022, 9:39 PM

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Anyone else like the new looks shown off in the Sojourn gameplay trailer?

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I think Ashe looks cooler with her new look

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Though, my fav is still Doomfist hands down. He looks like a real villain now

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:10 PM

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i like the new black gauntlet but it doesn’t really make sense from a lore standpoint

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i think hog is a massive improvement

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:33 PM

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fringe thistle i like the new black gauntlet but it doesn’t really make sense from a lore stand...

Why doesn’t it make sense?

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:34 PM

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because why would doom shelf his gauntlet thats an heirloom

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for an entirely new one

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:34 PM

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Bro, do know Akande has changed the gauntlet before, right?

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fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:36 PM

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thats the same gauntlet

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akande just has additional brass shoulder armor to go with it

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:37 PM

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Yes. But notice the gauntlet evolves with each one to wear it

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:37 PM

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idk why the first df doesn’t even have one

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bit of a design mistake imo

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:38 PM

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The Savior’s wasn’t as cybernetic at all. The Scourge was left handed and his was cybernetic. Akande upgraded it after killing the second

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He does have one. That on his right hand IS his gauntlet

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:40 PM

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this just looks completely different

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its cool but i wonder what the lore reasoning is

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it’s generally understood that the weapons in legendary skins are not canon and only there for design flair

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like formal doomfist would probably just use the default brass gauntlet and not that custom black one

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:41 PM

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The lore is obvious. Akande got his butt whooped by Winston, Genji, and Tracer and after that, decided to upgrade his gauntlet to improve his combat ability

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:42 PM

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or how in the comics blackwatch genji’s shurikens are the same as default genji’s tinted red, but in game they’re super diff

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past copper May 18, 2022, 11:43 PM

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Formal Doomfist isn’t even a canon skin until we see him in the Overwatch 2 trailer

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:45 PM

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formal df is canon wym?

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he wears that suit in storm rising

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and he wears it without a gauntlet

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:45 PM

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fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:45 PM

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ah thats true i forgot he was in this trailer

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so i guess he really does have multiple gauntlets then

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:46 PM

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fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:46 PM

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that’s a weird thing to think about

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so that means he canonically has that black gauntlet and his heirloom brass one

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:46 PM

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Well, last I checked. The first time we saw the gauntlet, it was completely different

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:46 PM

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or they just used the skin for that cutscene rather than the version without the gauntlet

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:47 PM

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fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:47 PM

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you could also be right

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:47 PM

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past copper

ngl i think this is a legit retcon

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:48 PM

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fringe thistle ngl i think this is a legit retcon

https://twitter.com/westofhouse/status/887402945423130625

Michael Chu (@westofhouse)

Akande is very big on upgrades and improvements. https://t.co/7WV7vgGcVf

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fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:48 PM

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it doesn’t match up

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:48 PM

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There’s many things possible. It could’ve been the fact it was an early trailer, it could’ve been a part in the story before he upgrades his arsenal, heck it could even be a flashback for all we know

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:48 PM

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the tweet he's responding to is gone, but iirc it was asking why his gauntlet looks different from the original trailer

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:48 PM

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in this poster the 2nd doomfist has the exact same gauntlet as akande

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in the ow trailer it’s completely different

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i think its legit a retcon because it’s too different

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:49 PM

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Early design by devs or lore wise each Doomfist upgrades the gauntlet

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Take your pick

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:50 PM

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early design

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lore wise it conflicts with that poster

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and i mean that trailer was weird anyway tbh, tracer had ridiculous hair in it

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:50 PM

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the trailer was made before the hero designs were finalized

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:51 PM

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ye thats what i meant

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because immediately after in alive short tracer’s hair matches the in game model

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:51 PM

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Doomfist wasn’t even really thought out just yet to be a hero

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:51 PM

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ye

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:51 PM

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Widowmaker looks noticably different

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:52 PM

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her visor is purple

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not red

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or that’s how it looks to me rn ig

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:52 PM

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Bare in mind, these characters have undergone changes throughout the course of Overwatch

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Between both the game and shorts

peak escarp May 18, 2022, 11:55 PM

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most of the shorts use high-poly versions of the game models

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those weren't finished yet when the cinematic trailer was being made, so the cinematic team had to make their own models

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:56 PM

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But, back to the Doomfist thing. The gauntlet at the time was really only a means to make Doomfist sound like a villain that was beaten by the heroes

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That is until he’s officially introduced into the game as much more then that

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:57 PM

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yeah

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atp i dont think akande existed

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i think it was just the scourge

past copper May 18, 2022, 11:58 PM

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Well, creation wise, everything about Doomfist was only a concept

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Including his gauntlet

fringe thistle May 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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…wait holy shit

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the heck????

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bro how did i forget widow took a direct punch from the gauntlet LMAO

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how the hell did she get back up from that with no damage

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girl went flying through glass and everything jesus

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:01 AM

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Lore wise, we get this powerful man leading an entire organization with an iron fist with a plan to plunge the world into another global crisis to weed out the weak and allow the strong to rise

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:01 AM

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this guy

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so Doomfist as a hero concept existed at least since 2014

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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now i wanna know how they can explain widow tanking a punch from the gauntlet that can supposedly level a skyscraper

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:03 AM

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peak escarp this guy

holy shit this looks exactly like that symmetra challenge skin

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thats wild

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:03 AM

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Again. Early lore, which wasn’t completely put together at the time of that cinematic

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:03 AM

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one of Symmetra's rare skins is a reference to that concept art

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Technomancer

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fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:04 AM

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the headpiece on that epic even looks kinda similar to the concept art

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also concept sym looks metal, she has like a giant portal gun on her arm instead of a normal hand lol

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kind of crazy looking

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:07 AM

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Of course, what happened to Widow also included a punch that looked like massive blast

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Which we don’t get from Doomfist

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:07 AM

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i wonder how much stuff they’re still pulling from Titan that we don’t know about

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was Sojourn a class in Titan

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:08 AM

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peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:09 AM

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these were the original 8 classes

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basically, Tracer Reaper Zarya Pharah Symmetra Genji Mercy Sombra Torbjorn

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:10 AM

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That’s a lot of classes. Kinda reminds me of LoL

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:10 AM

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even echo was a Titan concept which is insane to think about

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Iris

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:11 AM

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Pharah was named Mercy

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Mercy was named Angelica

balmy imp May 19, 2022, 12:12 AM

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past copper

what trailer is this from?

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Winston, Tracer, Winston, Torbjorn, Symmetra and Echo basically haven't changed

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:12 AM

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balmy imp what trailer is this from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZl1yGUetjI

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peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Longshot became Widowmaker

balmy imp May 19, 2022, 12:13 AM

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past copper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZl1yGUetjI

thx

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:13 AM

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Hanzo became Hanzo and Genji

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:14 AM

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Iris became Echo

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whats crazy is i dont think we even have the full image of this

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you can see tracer cut off on the bottom as well as others

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:16 AM

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I see potential from that Rumble character

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Didn’t they mention a character called Sound Quake

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:17 AM

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i think brit became dva

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honestly kind of a shame because her design looks way cooler to me

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:17 AM

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Brit can be seen on Kanezaka

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:18 AM

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also that "mercy" (pharah) is metal looking

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i cant believe that turned into pharah

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:18 AM

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fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:18 AM

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peak escarp

wait wtf

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so they ARE still pulling from these concepts

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:18 AM

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they reused old concept art

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it's an ad for a virtual travel house

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:19 AM

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thats even like the exact same image

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so brit is a character that canonically exists

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 12:19 AM

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she exists as an advertisement

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:19 AM

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damn her mech looks so much cooler than dva's lol

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:20 AM

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Or she’s like Hatsune Miku

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:20 AM

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i feel stronger eva vibes with brit than dva gives off

past copper May 19, 2022, 12:20 AM

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That hologram pop star

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 12:20 AM

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i wonder if we'll get more concept art skins like equalizer lucio

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this would make a great sombra skin

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if not i hope they use this design for a future hero, because this design is too cool to just waste like that

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i can totally see this design being used for the "kanezaka fox girl" because her hair has that feudal japanese style and she's holding kunai

worthy rose May 19, 2022, 1:24 AM

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past copper

I wonder what that kid did after that whole situation

past copper May 19, 2022, 1:26 AM

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Probably went on to become a hero in his own right

lone osprey May 19, 2022, 1:26 AM

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he probably told his classmates

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 1:27 AM

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probably nothing

fringe thistle May 19, 2022, 1:54 AM

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thats gotta feel so cool

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punching with that gauntlet and telling ppl you stopped a talon operation

lone osprey May 19, 2022, 5:26 AM

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yeah

unkempt field May 19, 2022, 6:30 PM

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How did omnic invasion start

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Whos making the robots

peak escarp May 19, 2022, 6:31 PM

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the Omnica Corporation made the omnics, but they got shut down for failing to meet their production promises

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somehow, the factories woke up on their own (they were run by AI) and started mass producing omnics and waging war on humans

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nobody knows how or why they woke up and attacked

gilded grove May 19, 2022, 11:41 PM

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peak escarp she exists as an advertisement

worthy rose May 20, 2022, 1:50 AM

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fringe thistle

hanzo is genji 💀

mighty prism May 20, 2022, 7:37 AM

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worthy rose hanzo is genji 💀

Woah

frank siren May 20, 2022, 11:15 AM

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Any lore about sombra

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i want all the tea

desert linden May 20, 2022, 3:37 PM

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She hacks

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Like Really good

unkempt field May 20, 2022, 5:11 PM

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peak escarp nobody knows how or why they woke up and attacked

cant anybody go to the factory and turn it off or destroy it

peak escarp May 20, 2022, 5:11 PM

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the factories were defended

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 12:38 AM

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nuke the factories?

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 12:39 AM

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That's not a viable solution

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 12:39 AM

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Actually, I'm not sure if nuclear weapons were used or not in the OW universe. They might've been.

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Why wouldn't it be viable?

worthy rose May 21, 2022, 12:51 AM

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Make a giant pulse bomb

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 12:56 AM

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crisp dew Why wouldn't it be viable?

The omniums are mostly in places that should be habitable. For example, Detroit. A nuke is a good way to make that entire city and surrounding area unlivable for decades.

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Likewise, machines aren't as vulnerable to nukes as humans. Especially when the machines are built out of self-improving factories

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Or rather, adaptive factories

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 1:03 AM

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In a matter of a global conflict, a few cities are a small price to pay.

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Nuclear blasts generate EMPs which should disable any electronics within it's range.

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With modern satellite imaging you should be able to locate every omnium on the planet and ICBMs can reach anywhere from anywhere else.

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 1:06 AM

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They dont need modern satellite imaging to locate them

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They built them

peak escarp May 21, 2022, 1:08 AM

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you could just use an EMP without the nuke

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 1:08 AM

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limpid agate They dont need modern satellite imaging to locate them

They could have built more?

peak escarp May 21, 2022, 1:08 AM

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and the omniums probably had protections against EMPs

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Well if the EMP doesn't kill them, surely the immediate incineration from a nuclear fireball would.

peak escarp May 21, 2022, 1:09 AM

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but like Taiga said, it would also kill millions and make the region uninhabitable for generations

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the collateral damage is not worth it

past copper May 21, 2022, 1:27 AM

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Need I remind people of the Omnium in Australia’s Outback?

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The Australian Liberation Front (ALF) attacked the Omnium and sabotaged the fusion core

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This resulted in the destruction of the facility, irradiated the region, and littered the Outback with twisted metal and wreckage for kilometers around.

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So nuking an Omnium would’ve been like dropping an H-bomb, which would be much worse than you think it be

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This is what you’d expect if you use a nuke to destroy an Omnium

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So, doing the math on that. Destroying a factory with probably at least a hundred robots

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At the cost of millions of humans lives. A nuke isn’t viable

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 5:51 AM

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Why would millions of humans be living in the heart of enemy territory?

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Omniums is what they come out of, no?

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Cut their factories and you'll bleed their manpower dry.

peak escarp May 21, 2022, 5:53 AM

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omniums were built in major cities

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like Detroit, for example

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 5:58 AM

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Yeah but over the course of a war would those regions not be evacuated/depopulated?

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I'd reckon that a lot of people would be displaced.

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Besides, you don't ned to use the largest nuclear bomb ever designed by humans.

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Precision guided munitions nowadays are accurate to the metre, which should be more than plenty to destroy a factory without significant collateral damage.

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 6:04 AM

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If plain, non-nuclear missiles worked, they would have used missiles.

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And in the end

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The omniums were never destroyed. They were shutdown.

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The only Omnium that was destroyed, as far as we know, is the Australian one.

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And that fucked up the entire outback

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The omnium itself is a dangerous detonation

austere frigate May 21, 2022, 7:23 AM

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Does anyone know if you can get physical copies of the overwatch comics?

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 7:34 AM

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Yes

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There is an Anthology Collection

austere frigate May 21, 2022, 7:47 AM

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limpid agate There is an Anthology Collection

Oh, I did not know this. Thank you!

past copper May 21, 2022, 8:04 AM

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crisp dew Yeah but over the course of a war would those regions not be evacuated/depopulat...

Oh? Then good luck cleaning up hundreds of miles of radiation from the blast. Because that stuff doesn’t die off

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You can’t control the weather and all it would take is weather to spread the combined radiation from the blast/destroyed factory

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Not to mention the destruction from the use of a nuke all its own and someone having to pay for it

past copper May 21, 2022, 8:14 AM

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crisp dew Why would millions of humans be living in the heart of enemy territory?

The only Omnium we know of that wasn’t built within or near a city is the still active one in the East China Sea

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Which nobody has been able to get to for the fact it’s heavily guarded and under water

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 8:18 AM

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And the outback omnium

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Which is presumably why the omnics were allowed to keep it as a peace treaty.

crisp dew May 21, 2022, 8:32 AM

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limpid agate If plain, non-nuclear missiles worked, they would have used missiles.

Well yeah that's the question, was it ever explored in-universe?

limpid agate May 21, 2022, 8:33 AM

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They didnt even work on omnics

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Let alone the factories

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This is an entire army against 1 omnic

past copper May 21, 2022, 11:31 AM

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That’s one Omnic. A titan class. With an entire navy and air force hitting it with everything they have

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That’s just one of many machines they faced during the crisis

azure slate May 21, 2022, 2:40 PM

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Why is reaper evil

cunning ledge May 21, 2022, 2:42 PM

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I recommend reading Reaper's short story

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/media/stories/code-of-violence/

Overwatch

Overwatch Media

Overwatch Media: Videos, Comics, Screenshots, Artwork, and more.

worthy rose May 22, 2022, 6:00 AM

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Low of ow?

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Lore*

peak escarp May 22, 2022, 6:01 AM

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did you have any questions?

uneven copper May 22, 2022, 10:00 AM

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limpid agate There is an Anthology Collection

the anthology isnt all of them tho right

north zenith May 22, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Indeed

iron plume May 22, 2022, 2:02 PM

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uneven copper the anthology isnt all of them tho right

The “expanded edition” anthology is everything except for London Calling and New Blood which are supposed to have their own physical releases

rare sinew May 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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pls london calling was so bad

peak escarp May 22, 2022, 5:23 PM

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it was

versed spade May 22, 2022, 5:59 PM

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lore moment

twin hazel May 23, 2022, 1:40 AM

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So is like summoning the Dragons a superpower of the shimadas or smt?

peak escarp May 23, 2022, 1:45 AM

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it's not magic

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it's likely some kind of hard light technology

twin hazel May 23, 2022, 1:56 AM

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soka

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shanks

worthy rose May 23, 2022, 9:14 AM

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@peak escarp what would happen if a playable character died in lore

limpid agate May 23, 2022, 9:14 AM

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They said that they would still be playable

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But

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Realistically, they are not going to kill any playable characters

worthy rose May 23, 2022, 9:15 AM

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Ok

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How the fuck does mercy bring back people from the dead

limpid agate May 23, 2022, 9:23 AM

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She doesnt

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/180471683759472640/722991368875671622/mercyheal.gif

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This is what rez looks like

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Note that Mei isnt dead

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Its just a gameplay mechanic

worthy rose May 23, 2022, 9:31 AM

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Is mercy imortal

cunning ledge May 23, 2022, 9:33 AM

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No

worthy rose May 23, 2022, 9:35 AM

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Explain

cunning ledge May 23, 2022, 9:38 AM

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There is no evidence that she is immortal

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For once there's actually a Chu tweet for this

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https://twitter.com/westofhouse/status/949410245821964288?lang=en

Michael Chu (@westofhouse)

@ShioriShay She does age.

dark lichen May 23, 2022, 1:13 PM

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Seems like a very ambiguous tweet though. She may 'age', but in what way? The interaction between Mei and Mercy eludes to Mercy not aging in the same way Mei didn't when she was in cryostasis. Of course it could be simply Mei being sweet but how Mercy seems very interested in how Mei stayed young seems really suspicious to me.

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She just asks it out of no where.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

iron plume May 23, 2022, 1:19 PM

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It's Mei giving Mercy a compliment about her looks

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and why wouldn't Mercy be interested, she's a doctor who encountered a strange biological effect

azure slate May 23, 2022, 4:51 PM

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cunning ledge I recommend reading Reaper's short story

So he’s evil because he realized being violent actually got things done compared to playing the hero? That’s what I got from this

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Also who is Akande

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Doomfist?

peak escarp May 23, 2022, 4:55 PM

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yes

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Doomfist's name is Akande Ogundimu

tawdry patrol May 23, 2022, 5:49 PM

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Does God exist in OW?

peak escarp May 23, 2022, 5:50 PM

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if you believe

tawdry patrol May 23, 2022, 5:56 PM

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🙏

peak escarp May 23, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Soldier is Catholic, so people do believe in god in the OW universe

silk frost May 24, 2022, 1:44 AM

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who's the guy in the far left in the group pic in ana's cinematic?

grand wedge May 24, 2022, 1:59 AM

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Still a mystery

limpid agate May 24, 2022, 4:00 AM

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We don't know.

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I speculate its the same guy that has the mohawk and bionic pecs in Recall and the Cinematic Trailer, as well as concept art

tawdry patrol May 24, 2022, 6:59 AM

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peak escarp Soldier is Catholic, so people do believe in god in the OW universe

Has anyone in the overwatch universe acknowledged that zen transcended life and death

tardy summit May 24, 2022, 7:19 AM

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tawdry patrol Has anyone in the overwatch universe acknowledged that zen transcended life and ...

When did that happen?

limpid agate May 24, 2022, 8:08 AM

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tawdry patrol Has anyone in the overwatch universe acknowledged that zen transcended life and ...

He didn't.

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So no.

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No one is going to acknowledge something that hasn't happened.

digital forum May 24, 2022, 3:37 PM

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Did the overwatch team confirm that the Omnics are indeed sentient or is that like the Big Question that still needs to be answered?

opaque tundra May 24, 2022, 3:50 PM

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They're sentient, but how they became sentient still has some unanswered questions

limpid agate May 24, 2022, 4:12 PM

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No one is questioning that they are sentient

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They are questioning if they are deserving of human rights

peak escarp May 24, 2022, 4:16 PM

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it was Aurora who transcended, not Zen

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Zenyatta's ultimate is a reference to that

tawdry patrol May 24, 2022, 4:17 PM

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So has anyone acknowledged Aurora then

peak escarp May 24, 2022, 4:18 PM

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the Shambali have

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and there's enough information about her that Symmetra could do her research

limpid agate May 24, 2022, 4:18 PM

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And it's not as dramatic as "tramscended life and death"

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It's a part of Shambali faith, and has a link to why the omnics have their sentience

iron plume May 25, 2022, 8:35 AM

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@worthy rose No, but most of the existing material is in the pins

kind plume May 25, 2022, 4:44 PM

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wich ones are the rienheart comics

limpid agate May 25, 2022, 5:09 PM

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Dragon Slayer

safe raft May 25, 2022, 9:14 PM

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holy shit i havent opned this since 2016

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tf

worn island May 25, 2022, 10:16 PM

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welcome back I guess

worthy rose May 25, 2022, 10:41 PM

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ow lore channel lore

balmy imp May 26, 2022, 12:52 AM

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what is Tracer's physical age vs actual age?

peak escarp May 26, 2022, 12:54 AM

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physical age: 25
actual age: 25

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Tracer ages normally

pseudo ferry May 26, 2022, 12:57 AM

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Lol

balmy imp May 26, 2022, 1:13 AM

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oh lmao

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thanks

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so her chronal disassociation just caused her to phase in and out of the present?

peak escarp May 26, 2022, 1:22 AM

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yep

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at most she only disappeared for a few weeks

heady sleet May 26, 2022, 1:39 AM

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A

peak escarp May 26, 2022, 1:42 AM

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Mei's physical age and actual age are different, because of her cryostasis

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she's physically 31, but actually 40

balmy imp May 26, 2022, 2:43 AM

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thank you

past copper May 26, 2022, 3:51 AM

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You know people who played the beta were actually completely about Orisa’s new voice lines?