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like say he could take his hand of and pop a gun on it
yeah something like that
the guns on the heavy assaults in the game are so big and unwieldy, i imagine it being some kind of thing along his arms that attaches instead of replacing
plus makes it more unique compared to some of the other enhancements
Mauga has orisa style gun
No shit
But hopefully his gameplay will be different from other tanks
Can't wait to see
Its not a no shit comment
If anything, its incorrect
In all respects, story, gameplay, and physically
Orisa uses a Fusion Driver that is an attachment to her arm that replaces her hand, and gameplay wise it is a rapid fire projectile cannon.
Mauga uses a pair of held miniguns that are attached to what appears to be some kind of tank for its ammunition or energy, and gameplay wise it is a pair of rapid fire hitscan weapons.
firing those things must be so satisfying
maybe more like hammonds guns?
Yeah, closer to those perhaps
Actually, I think Orisa can remove her gun given this image
probably
most likely gonna be, considering that
and the bap sombra interaction implying that hes alive
which interaction?
Baptiste: Sombra... how is he? Sombra: Eager to see you again. Be careful.
is it implied or stated that Sombra helped Baptiste escape Talon?
no iirc
We don't know that specifically but it's likely
Since they're still friends after he left and he rings her up to find Mercy at the end of his short story
i do hope we get mauga as a hero
he could play like the heavy in tf2
with a minigun

heavy but with a charge and deflect shield
Someone say tf2?
yes my friend
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this game has lore?
stop repeating it
did you claim the alpha?
nah
orisa believes in blcak lives matter
less than
dont care about the age
an age doesnt devote to when u should educate urself
I would hope that 60 years in the future movements like BLM would be unnecessary since the world is a better place
but if Orisa knew about it, she would definitely support it
If she knew about it and there was a reason to support it
But she dosen't. And there isn't
It's an egalitarian future. People don't really care about race
They are more concerned about Omnic rights
In Storm Rising, when they caught Maximilien and Mercy asked for an introduction.
Did Maximilien sell Doomfist out? I'm not sure about the timeline on when he was imprisoned, and what Maximilien's part in that might be
yes
so Akande knows that and Max is still on the council?
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thank you
Instead of Black lives matter it's Omnic Lives Matter
I don’t know. The only race issue is between humans and Omnics
Akande definitely knows Maximilien snitched on him
but like with Sombra, he's more useful as an ally than an enemy
is there anyone who can be considered completely loyal to Talon's cause yet? besides Widow and Sigma, everyone who seems to have a choice like Max, Moira, and Sombra seem ready to go against Talon as soon as it suits their needs
There isn't really a "Talon's cause"
there's "Doomfist's cause" and the others either fall in line or as you said go along with it because it suits their needs
Though most of them seem to believe it in some form at least
Moira definitely wouldn't be against a massive war that lets her pump people full of her genetic juice
like Reyes says (thinks?) in Code of Violence:
people aren't loyal to Talon, they just have aligned objectives
Whole point of talon is they're a bunch of people that have different ideals, but fall under "Conflict makes people stronger".
They don't really fall under that though
They're all more than fine with conflict but for different reasons
True
So why does talon fight alongside overwatch in game
that's just gameplay
example, torb eliminates brig
he wouldn't kill his own daughter
the game isn't canon
@peak escarp Sorry for pinging you, but you know everything about lore. Haha, you have any idea when the printed versions of 'New Blood' will be out? I can't find any info on Dark Horse Comics' website.
They didn’t say anything yet
But maybe you can compare with when the printed version of London Calling was available last year
Hmm, good point!
Thanks!
August 2
wait
wrong one
the New Blood hardcover hasn't been announced
What about normal... Comic book format? I don't remember the proper term.
I haven't found any listings for physical copies
Okay, thanks again! ^^
I love this sentence so much. It's Accurate but funny
Hahaha
I agree
Gameplay is not canon to lore, so echo cant duplicate the shimada's spirit dragons in lore but does so ingame
She replicates skills
We don't anything to suggest she can replicate forms or technology
Example: Echo is basically Taskmaster from Marvel
we still dont know the extent of it as far as we know
but it has been said that her duplication is a big part to her lore
being adaptable is a big part of her lore
duplication is never mentioned
What she created was a multirole, adaptive robot that could be programmed to learn different functions: anything from medical support to construction:
oops
It's probably cannon
It's one of the most interesting things about her
It's what makes her so dangerous, and is likely the reason she was put into hibernation
did doomfist dodge lightning in his origin story
cause in the animation I watched him dodge winston's tesla cannon
that would make him faster than lightning
canon*
we can see that she can manifest objects
with some kind of blue enrgy thats not hardlight
how do you know it's not hard light?
it 100% is
she usese hardlight to look like other heroes
echo can be made to do anything
if they were to rework her kit it might take a lot of time
she was a pilot in the first ow2 cinematic

oh i just assumed it wasnt cause it didnt have the notable wall of hexagons
but ig the possibility is there
her face resembles hard light more than anything else
but can someone answer my question?
cause doomfist literally dodged electricity
that would make him lightning+ in terms of speed
which is absurd
it's a cartoon
so is most animated films
and they use proper speed scaling
I just find it ridiculous that doomfist can dodge lightning and somehow lost to someone with sound tech
lightning is so much faster than sound too
they dodge electric attacks in pokemon all the time
fictional lightning doesn't have to follow real world physics
but winston's tesla cannon shoots electricity, does it not?
that's why it would be called a tesla cannon, no?
yes
my point stands
Doomfist dodged it because that animation was showing how powerful he seemed
in Hero of Numbani, he retreats against Lucio and Orisa because Lucio and Orisa are supposed to win
so they nerfed him due to plot
yep
I mean, we all knew it was coming
Plot Armor
but looking at it now, it's just completely ridiculous from an analysis standpoint
and inverse plot armor, I guess
also a little bit of Rule of Cool
that's why we don't get any concrete numbers for power levels - they can be as weak or as strong as the plot needs them to be
worth noting that winston's telsa cannon seems to work differently in the lore to the game, it charges up and releases a burst forwards instead of just being on or off
looks more like his new ability in ow2 sometimes
It works both ways.
It did the in game application in other material we have seen.
Most noteably Recall
It's just gameplay bruh
If one team wasn't allowed to pick any character other than Talon members in pvp, then it just defeats the entire purpose of this game.
Lool
Talon's comp is 4-1-1
But either way yes that's not how they built it
They could have but they didn't
for PvE missions, it seems like the only requirement is (at least) one support
unless we get another Talon-aligned support
ye
at least Overwatch has Mercy, Baptiste and Brigitte to share the work
and Lucio, once he joins
well OW's got a lot more heroes in general
What about Zen? I doubt he'd "join" but maybe assist
it looks like the main story will cross paths with Zen
so he'll probably team up with Overwatch for a few missions at least
which heroes are "free agents", aka not aligned to either Overwatch or Talon?
Ashe, Junkrat, Roadhog, Hanzo, WB,...
Orisa (so far)
Symmetra
Bastion, although we know it joins up with Overwatch in OW2
so there's not many
For the better I'd say. It'd be lame if too many of the heroes were just roped into one group. I think of the hereos we currently suspect of joining Neo Overwatch plus its current members it has plenty.
Exactly bro
You get it
Variety is the spice of life
I just hope they dont get forced onto one side or the other
ye
Zarya being OW is kinda weird still but New Blood made it believable enough
I haven't seen D.va chapter yet but that's kinda weird too yeah?

it made sense the way they did it
she's not really joining OW, she's just being loaned out
Sorry meant 2 tanks now
Talon doesn't have 2 tanks
Technically speaking, they will soon enough. Given Doomfist getting moved to Tank
But I guess that doesn’t count right now
True
Tanks: Doomfist Sigma
Damage: Reaper, Sombra, Widowmaker
Supports: Moira
Just need another Talon support and you’d have a perfect team
or they can go 2-3-1
baptiste
Baptiste doesn’t really count anymore
That’s a terrible idea. Too much work for supports and most support players aren’t going to actually focus healing
wym keeping the team alive is top priority as support
playable hero with the least amount of lore.. Hanzo, right?
Wrecking Ball
ball probably
yeah Ball has the least number of appearances
Hanzo has gone the longest without new lore
It top priority, but you seem to forget players don’t always do their job in Overwatch.
youre joking right i cant tell
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve seen players act like DPS Ana, Moira, and Lúcio
Let's leave the gameplay conversations elsewhere
lowkey hanzo seems to show distaste in talon but isnt too eager to join overwatch so… maybe he stays neutral and just helps genji with any tough missions
hes not interested in either and will stay neutral for the most part
and will (inevitably) cross paths with genji during the crisis cause plot
im interested in where wrecking ball goes
the only motivation towards any side he has is
being friends with winston
or acquaintances rather
im not sure if theyre confirmed friends
they seem close enough for winston to remember his name
So is anyone else hoping Moria does her damage balm thing but they make it so she does a rasengan movement while making it because speaking of heir mechanics her spout things only put forth some mist stuff while making a ball you would need a outside so it doesn’t spill (like the balloon Naruto had to make one inside) and the actual gas stuff (the chakra or whatever) inside the outside bubble type thing
ratio
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Is this not about me wanting to see her using her abilities in a comic/ video type scenario contributing to the lore
no
it doesnt
how tall is D. va's mech? i had some people say 97ft then 87ft then 10ft then 9'8 and then between 7-9ft tall, so which is it???
we don't have an official height for it
hmmm
3 feet
let me ask this then would you say its taller than 8'6?
I have no idea
I'm not good at guessing heights
theres bo fucking way in holy hell its 3ft tall so hop off m8
Do not shitpost misinformation
We don't have official sized, but its not significantly larger than Reinhardt.
If anything, Rein might be the same height
idk if she was just joking, if she was then my bad it is funny but if not then f u
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Toki's only lore appearances are in New Blood and Shooting Star
Shooting Star only has D.Va, who is also an unknown height
New Blood has...
so how tall is rein again?
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Rein is 7'4
is he?
Yes
oof 😦
The first 18 heroes all have confirmed heights
yes its official
And Hammond is approximately Pikachu sized
maybe compare them, that could give you a rough estimate
all the launch heroes have reference documents, some of which include approximate heights
Here we have Zarya in comparison to the largest of the mechs, Beast.
Here is another comparison piece. Those forklifts exist on the map.
zarya is 6'5
if i wanna add heights i do it like this-> 5'6+3'0=8'6 right? or am i dumb af
ight cool
I've always wondered if hard light had a limited or unlimited source of energy since sym wall is map wide so maybe echo is able to duplicate the colossal null sector robots in a costless manner
It seems to be multi-purpose as well
Like teleporting matter and acting as furniture not just weapons
well that might be the difference between "common" hard light and The Vishkar Special
vishkar hardlight seems to be refined specifically for construction
Almost 2 meter tall isnt she
ah yes the infamous victory pose
lol
oh wow
where do you find these, is there a document somewhere?
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Uh huh. Don't be rude to other members
he already is
but he's married to his work and hasn't had a relationship since
I hope they expand upon things like this
their past relationships and lifestyles before who we know them as now
we get more of it in novels/short stories than in comics, so we need more of those
Do you know what solider is actively doing doing currently. Is he still trying to take out overwatch or what.
he's going after Reaper and Talon for their part in destroying Overwatch
no, he wasn't an Overwatch member
huh wouldn't that be better for reaper?
They both kinda want justice, but the limit between justice and revenge is kinda blurry. And how the goals justify the means too is questionable with them
So in code of violence, how exactly is sigma taken away? Is he just walked out? Is he that suggestible?
He is kinda oblivous of everything surrounding him
he doesn't even acknowledge them coming in
So how would he react to being actively engaged with in the form of being taken and put on a ship
Does he need to be like properly shoved on do they like put him in a trolley or smth
Or is he perfectly capable of acknowledging but just doesn't really care
it isn't mentioned how he gets put onto the dropship, so he must not have resisted
I feel like he was just like "oh we're doing this now? Ok"
Same feeling
I think they "fixed" him by putting some brain implant - as you can see on his default skin - so he isn't lost in his own mind anymore
And can conduct his experiments and Talon can use it for themselves
sigma sure is an interesting character
I'm curious to see if/how he is incorporated into the storyline of OW2
most likely just as a talon weapon
Remember that one quote where Sigma asks out Widowmaker? Mans playing the game in his 60s lmaoooo
I didn't understand this can someone explain me please
A lot of people found Moira weird until Sigmas crazy ass came to light
there's an interaction where sigma asks widowmaker about visiting cabaret luna (first attackers spawn room on paris)
this specific conversation has probably not actually happened though
I remember in game conversation thanks alot bro
is Lucio's father alive?
We don't know
aight ty
there's a few lines that mention Lucio's father, but it's unclear from those
some use past tense, some use present tense
Do we know how old Rein is in the animated short?
in the flashback parts of Honor and Glory?
it's during the omnic crisis, which started 30 years ago
so around 30 years old
we don't know how long into the crisis before Overwatch was formed
or how long the crisis lasted
Yes the Honor ant Glory animated short and thank you
Are there any Lucio comics If so can someone send a link
There are not
He's featured pretty prominently in Hero of Numbani, the orisa story
But that's a book and also paid
Ok thanks
question: who got the best lore? (opinion)
best is pretty subjective... I really like Reaper's lore, and Ashe's
my favourite is Cassidy obviously, but I don't think it's the best
nice
Reaper imo
There isn’t much to bastions lore but what he does have is pretty solid
hes a robot with PTSD
its.. solid. but yh just dont like the idea of a robot having ptsd
as for my favorite, it would be symm
stone by stone was rlly good
id rlly like to see her character expand more
Bastion was literally based off the Iron Giant
A robot with AI, PTSD, and treated as something greater than a weapon. A friend and hero. That’s Bastion in a nutshell
It’s gotta be PTSD. I live next to a man who was in the Vietnam War and I’ve seen his reaction to fireworks on the 4th of July
but Bastion hasn't seen combat
it would have no trauma to develop that response to
it just has its programming
Baptiste is more likely to have PTSD
Well, we don’t know exactly what Bastion went through before waking up. But based on the memory he saw, the landscape was much different back then
Bastion was reading the memory of another unit
Bastion woke up in the forest still in its droppod
Well, like I said, the landscape was different. The surrounding areas looked like they were on fire as armies of robots flanked the German forces from all sides. Bastion might’ve seen or heard something before shutting down
Probably heard since he didn’t understand the sound he heard from the woodpecker, but knew it reminded him of something
He only really understood the reason why that sound triggered him after looking into a destroyed Bastion’s memory banks
i hate to say it but the bottom left pick ☠️
i cant unsee
what it looks like

How much harm did Genji take when Hanzo sliced him
Like did he lose his legs or was there more
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Do we know why Hanzo doesn’t go back to the blade now knowing his brother is still alive?
He put it down out of respect right, but he didn’t kill genji though
He still tried to kill him and the only reason he survived was because Mercy saved him
The fact that he is alive now dosen't undo that
Knowing genji is alive doesn't cancel out the consequences from thinking he'd killed him
He still tried to do it lol
theres still emotional scarring due to the fact he was able to get him on the brink of death
Here’s a question when genji got murdered and his body was turned into a cyborg, did he retain his important reproductive bits??
uhh
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so is it a court session around when overwatchs been disbanded?
sounds like it
yeah, part of the UN inquiry
I loved the origin story it’s been too long
Hell. It's about damn time.
Vivian 'Soujourn' CHase
Nice to see her finally. Its not really much new stuff to talk about, but we've been waiting two and a half years for this
i love her name
About the Chase surname, yeah
Vivian was wholly unpredictable though. I don't think anything existed to tease that yet.
This is an interesting shot here. It seems to be Sojourn collecting her own armory, as opposed to it being repossessed by the government like many other Overwatch assetts
That's quite the collection
maybe they are her personal belongings? a bit weird to own heavy weaponry like that though
imagine them taking her legs
Hm
We don't actually know what happened to other OW agents' personal weapons though
The pulse rifle was Soldiers but he was presumed dead
And no one "owned" the biotic rifle
They shouldn't belong to them really
Mercy clearly kept her staff
I appreciate the attention to detail - Sojourn was a member of the Canadian Special Forces (Canada's actual anti-terrorism unit) and wears the appropriate white winter CADPAT camo
Tracer lost her pulse pistols until Winston sent her new ones in London Calling
the pusle rifle was an experimental weapon
right
especially so then
forgot about the pistols however
Guerra has confirmed that similar items were taken from Watchpoint: Grand Mesa, including a prototype for a heavy pulse rifle.
It looks like she was cybernetic during the Omnic Crisis too
Her arms here have the same joints
At the very minimum, her arms were cybernetic
hopefully her written bio will shed more light on that
Previously we knew her robot arms stretched back ~20 years
This goes further
Her eyes too
Her natural eye colour seems to be brown
In that shot from 30 years ago, she has blue eyes, like these digital ones
Also, of the weapons here, these seem to be the only relevant ones
The small things are insider her arm
THe big gun is her railgun
This one is blue instead of red. There is likely going to be a skin with this gun, and the outfit on the left
This may also become a skin at some point too. The gun will probably be thickened, but her primary weapon does have that same split that is at the front of this assault rifle, and the rest of her silhouette seems to match (waist up)
I'd love to see that as a skin
SHe has no tan beret or helmet though
Maybe they just used the word Canadian Special Forces and didn't mean the literal CANSOFCOM
or there are legal rights involving the design?
Could be
Both of the JTF2 operators in Siege wear toques instead of tan too
For reference
Either way
Since this origin short dropped well before Blizzard time
We will likely get more news in half an hour
Hopefully the full bio
This schedule matches other early hero reveals in the past, like Hammond
Also notable is the lack of any OW2 Branding within the video itself
I do wonder whats up with that
didn't they drop the 2 from the logo?
maybe they're saving that branding for when the PvE releases
Maybe not.
maybe tomorrow
they have posted something every thursday since the beta was announced
That was one of the worst origin stories they've ever done.
why?
Learned very little about the character and the personality seems generic and boring.
It felt like filler.
we barely learned anything about Echo from her origin story
Wdym befofe Echo's origin story we just assumed she was just a robot
Then it was revealed she's the "echo" of Mina Liao who was already a preestablished character
we learned a lot about Dr. Mina Liao
And we were already invested in Echo from Reunion
Echo is the echo of Liao
what does that even mean?
Mina's personality is imprinted into Echo's
"My echo."
the origin trailer doesn't tell us that "my echo" means Dr. Liao's personality is imprinted on Echo
We don't have to be spoonfed everything. I like it when creators trust the audience or reader to be intelligent enough to figure stuff out.
then why is it a problem that Sojourn's origin doesn't tell us much?
Because there's nothing to go off of.
it gave us her personality
And I found that personality to be boring and generic.
This is only the origin story. Wait for the bio to come out and the beta to form your full opinion
My first impression: interesting, we'll see what happens next
My opinion was about the origin story.
It is still very lacking, Laxus is right
Previous origin stories of known characters like Ana and Brig still explored their motivations for becoming fighters in the present, explained unknown major details, or developed them beyond their last appearance.
And Echo's origin story was less of an Echo story, and more of one that finally explained everything about Liao 4 years later.
This one didnt really tell us much of anything new
Her first name being Vivian and her history during the crisis are really the only new details, and neither of which are major considering we already had speculation of her surname Chase and we knew about her being a long time member of Overwatch for 2 decades
Do you guys remember the old overwatch photo that was in Ana's origin video iirc
From soujorn origin story does that mean the lady on the far right was her?
We already knew that was her
Yes, that's her. We've known that for years though.
Wait did y’all know Sojourn was a girl???
Please tell me y’all just finding that out like me
It was something about the OW2 trailer… the story one that came a long time ago
When they showed her, I thought it was a guy for some reason
But yes that picture looks like a girl lol
there was this picture with two unknown characters on the far sides, one is now known to be sojourn and the other is some unknown dude, maybe you confused them in your head?
Did you play Storm Rising?
yeahh
I mean
I could see someone mistaking her for a guy
really?
In my opinion, Sojourn clearly has a female voice (just listening). And then you go and look up her VA: https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Cherise-Boothe/
(BTVA hasn't added Sojourn to Overwatch yet, even though she appears in Storm Rising.)
is she even in the credits? might be why
What credits? I looked at the in-game credits, and the voice actors are nowhere to be seen.
And I hate it.
All of the confirmations come from social media. VA's websites or Twitter responses from individuals at Blizzard.
Couldn't be bothered to include actual, authoritative voice credits in game.
it's such a strange thing to not include out of all the people credited that i almost feel like it must be on purpose
I think someone at Blizzard, whoever has control over the in-game credits, just doesn't care?
But I don't know.
There are still characters in various gameplay or animated shorts contexts that we don't know who voiced them.
i can't check in-game but on this website i found the voice cast is credited https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/overwatch/credits
just heroes though
maybe it's wrong
I'll list them: Omnic waiter (either Retribution or on Oasis), Fio (the pilot from Retribution), Talon Soldiers, the unnamed Omnic at the end of Storm Rising, Brian (the older brother in the cinematic trailer), and Efi (in Orisa's origin story). https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_actor
The voice director, Andrea Toyias, has answered some credit questions on Twitter. Michael Chu answered some others.
And the rest were all from personal websites or social media bios of the VAs themselves.
Screenshots of the verifications can be seen by clicking on the green checkmarks here: https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Overwatch/
(BTVA is still missing a lot, though. Currently, I think the Overwatch wiki "Voice actor" article is the most complete. IMDb is also fairly complete, except for the missing ones I listed.)
there are - in the actual credits
I watched the credits and didn't see any voice actors. Which year are they in?
And I bet it's just a list of names without connections to characters. (Which is another pet peeve of mine.)
it is just a list of names
It also sucks you can't fast forward or rewind the credits. Them's Fightin' Herds lets you do that (to make searching for Indiegogo backer names easier).
So you have to sit through the whole thing and it takes forever.
Are they listed in 2017?
I got an inactivity warning trying to find them
Inactivity? On the main menu not queueing for any game?
well, I didn't read what the popup said
I don't suggest watching the credits while you're queuing for a game, or actually in a game.
obviously
Well, that's how you avoid an inactivity warning.
I was just on the title screen
but I know they're in the credits somewhere because others have mentioned them
In the latest patch, the Overwatch Game Client has updated their credits from the 2017 version. There are of course several new voice actors, but many of which are not pinned to a specific character known to exist in Overwatch. Some of which we may have already heard, but some I feel may very well be new voices that we can speculate on. Here is ...
except they guessed wrong on Echo's VA
she's had three of them and Erika Lindbeck isn't one of them
I guess I wasn't looking hard enough when I attempted to watch the credits.
And based on what you said, I guess the majority of the VAs are in 2017, and then as new characters get added over the years, their VAs appear in the corresponding years.
I wonder if someone were to compare names in the credits with known credits on the wiki or IMDb, and then see if there are any voice actor names in the credits that we don't know who they voiced, if process of elimination could be used to guess at which NPCs they voiced? Chances are, they wouldn't even bother to list and voice actors if they don't voice a playable hero.
But if Travis Willingham, Siho Ellsmore, or Stephane Cornicard are listed, then there's a chance there are other NPC VAs listed.
Efi's voice is only heard in Orisa's origin trailer
Antonio is indeed Eduardo Costa? Like, the credits actually list that name with that character, connected? Not just the VA name?
And who's Luna?
no, it just lists the name - the community suspects he's the voice of Antonio, based on similarities in their voices
The only Luna I see is Circe Luna, the Latin American Spanish voice of Mercy.
Luna was the omnic in the attacker's spawn of Paris
Oh right.
best guess is Tatiana Matre
In the face of no conflicting information, I'd go with that.
And Matthew Waterson as the triplets in Reunion.
Echo's three VAs are Lauren Tom, Hojo Shin and Jeannie Bolet
credits from Reunion
credits from Zero Hour
I KNEW HER VOICE SOUNDED DIFFERENT IN ZERO HOUR
BRUH
i knewwwwwwwww it
i feel so validated
Zhang Yu is Elise Zhang (Mei)
Matilda Sanborgh is Matilda Smedius (Brigitte)
bruhh
that "hello winston" in zero hour was different from the "monkey" in reunion
i fuckin knew it
yep
i prefer her OG one
Lauren Tom was in Reunion
Hojo Shin was in Zero Hour and the Rio demo
the one in Zero Hour sounds too high imo
Where are those film poster-style credits? This is revelatory.
they made posters for the shorts
those are the two I have saved, there's probably others
If those are online somewhere, I can cite them.
That's brilliant, thank you.
At any rate, I updated the wiki: https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_actor Thank you.
I have Mei's on my computer as well
were there any information on Genji's relationships with his blackwatch teammates prior to Rialto?
what about reaper and moira?
they don't talk much
I don't know about "neutral"
Considering she literally asks him why he's more talkative than the Genji she knew and he says it's because he actually likes the people better
Genji and Cass probably bonded over their disdain for Moira
can be interpreted both ways
Had a question, the girl in the soldier 76 short, is she supposed to be pharah?
No
The soldier short is set in present day
The girl is still a girl, and in mexico
(her name is Alexandra)
for some reason I'd always thought that was Sombra but the ages and time never made sense so I was always unsure of it
because some youtuber or streamers probably made assumptions and people just rolled with it
Nah, a lot of people didn't, trust me
yeah the age and the timeframe never made sense
it wouldn't make any sense for the character inspired by a hero to grow up to work with talon anyway
No. Ana (Pharah's mother) is about the age of s76. Also there is a picture with pharah as child and active overwatch (ana,s76,rein,torb,mercy), here Pharah is older as the girl, while s76 is younger than he is in the animation.
There is this rumor of sombra being that girl (Alexandra), but that doesnt work in timeline either.
I wonder if there is a los muertos character, that appears in both, the animated short and sombra's story. Never though to search something like that.
Zarya did have a conversation with Alexandra about Sombra in a comic
And Alexandra told her where Sombra is
radom lore statement:
we all know why Mercy helped revive Genji 😏
because she's a doctor and it's her duty to save lives
exactly
Anybody know how they found genji?
I get that they were trying to recruit warriors but why not just take hanzo or others from the shimada clan instead
They were looking to shut the Shimada clan down
guess they picked him off the streets and were like "oh he looks about as good as any"
and were monitoring their activity, presumably closely enough that they could grab Genji in time
there's also a theory that Genji had been their informant in the first place but it's not supported
either that or they saw him getting chucked out of the streets after dueling hanzo
Overwatch probably had moles among the Shimada clan
yep
and they weren't looking for warriors
I believe Overwatch must of been in the area at the time of Genji's attempted murder. Given the injuries he had sustained, he should of been dead within minutes if he didn't get immediate medical attention.
His injuries were also incredibly brutal, a sign Hanzo was enraged during their fight. I believe discovering that Genji was a mole for Overwatch could have been what set him off and convinced him to commit the act.
Hanzo seems like he has anger issues - it's probably not hard to set him off
Even still, I would think it'd take a lot to convince him to kill his brother considering how he immediately regretted it afterwards
that was always what I asked
was Genji that bad?
I know he didn't live up to standards but jeez
he was a slacker who didn't want any part of the family business
for someone like Hanzo, who is all about tradition and honor, that must have been infuriating
Genji was chill and probably had a stronger moral compass
The "family business" here was illegal stuff. Drug dealing, arms dealing etc.
So basically they just picked him up and torb said, "welp this looks like a potential cyborg to me"
they saved his life and said "you look like a valuable asset in our fight against the Shimada clan, why dont you help us? We'll give you a cyborg body if you do."
and Genji said yes
I don't think Torb was involved
I don't think he was in the proper state to answer to anything when the fight ended
they didn't ask him when he was on deaths door
they saved his life, let him recover, then asked
so it's more like "hey I know you're already half cyborg cause you have like 5 missing body parts but do you wanna be a cyborg anyways and fight your brother"
But it sounds like something what torb would say and do
we don't know what state his body was in when they asked him, only that he was unable to walk
his limbs might have just been replaced as part of the cyberization process
So according to the lore they did ask him?
yes
From where comic?
from his bio
and from dialogue in Retribution
"Overwatch offered to rebuild his body in exchange for his help."
so, he became a tool
Sojourn novel is confirmed to drop this year.
we see a fair amount of new looks in Sojourn's gameplay trailer, i wonder if there's meaning behind some of them
like why sigma is in full white now when he's supposedly a talon weapon? and hammond has similar changes
zen, moira, ashe and bob were also shown
echo was shown but i doubt she'd get a new look, being the most recent new hero
Moira is also in white
as are the OW2 Talon troopers
Ooh okay
I've always thought the talon troopers looked like the heroes we know of and share similar abilities and traits
from a gameplay point, anyway
some of them basically are
Widowmaker is a Talon Sniper
Baptiste was similar to a Trooper
Mauga is a Heavy Assault
the assassin shares similar ability to tracer's blink
Could be similar tech
Honestly, given the looks that were shown, I think it’s safe to say they aren’t showing off story looks only anymore. They’re gonna show all the new looks
And gotta say, they all looking very refreshing
Though, still think that while is was wrong about Brig not getting a change, I still stand by the idea Echo will not get a new look
She’s still pretty new and I don’t think there is much you can change about her look aside from the color scheme
Brig has a new look
giving echo a new look would be useless
Why?
About as 'useless' as anyone else
I could definitely see things to change if they wanted to, just look at her concept art
It would be annoyingly inconsistent if she was the only one to not get one
It doesn’t have to be a massive change either
That’s why I said the only possible look she could get is a new color scheme. Like that of Pharah
Pharah's new look is more than just a recolour
There are subtle improvements to her amrour, and her visor is see through now
I hope the audiobook is read/narrated by Cherise Boothe. I love it when the character's VA reads their book, and it's unfortunate they only did it twice (with Orisa and Ashe).
Oh, for some reason I thought there were more.
it's likely they'll get her to read the audiobook
has there been any information on what Ashe's parents think of her starting a gang?
“You were out of control,” her father continued. “You needed to be taught a lesson. Yes, it was a drastic step to make you think we were going to cut you off, but something needed to be done to convince you to clean up your act!”
Ashe's father didn't seem very impressed
Her mother’s eyes narrowed. “How could you, Elizabeth? Stealing from your own family?”
her mother too
Ashe stopped fighting as the deputies dragged her across the lawn toward their vehicles. “I hope you remember this,” she called back to her parents, letting all the bitterness she felt leech into her voice. “Because I know I won’t forget.”
the scene ends with her being arrested, but she disowns them
for context, her parents said they would disown her when she turned 18, so Ashe took the initiative before that and started stealing from her family's company
her parents later tell her that it was an empty threat, but by then the damage had been done
damn
sad backstory 100
left her with Bob
and bob wasn't good at raising children?
while they were travelling around the world for work
Bob was fine
but he wasn't Ashe's parents
but Ashe didn't feel the love
so she kinda went rogue
and did things for attention?
Bob loves Ashe as much as a mute robot butler can love a person
but yeah
she wanted recognition from her parents
classic
what do yall think about sojourn's "lore"
canadian soldier does pewpew then she joined overwatch
there's more to it than "Canadian soldier goes pew pew then joins Overwatch"
we haven't gotten her bio yet
well true
and there's a whole novel about her coming later this year
so you can't dismiss her entire lore because her origin trailer was boring or whatever
Sigma's origin trailer was abstract and didn't tell us any actual information, but people love it because it's weird
yeah i like it
....people loved it?
i was just underwhelmed
but knowing the novel is coming makes me feel much better
Didn't nesskain was dropped from Blizz?
no? why would he be?
nice
So I saw a video that said sojourns cybernetics were originally necessary and eventually it became a choice to add more and more to make herself the best fighter she could be
That true?
Yes
It’s on this article https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23789252/
Sojourn has Orisa's dog. Nice
I can't remember what article it was but there was a Jeff Kaplan interview sometime after 2019 or 2021 blizzcon but he mentioned that a hero has a dog. I'm happy we finally get to see it. I guessed it would be Pharah's because they seem like a dog person lol
American soldier gets drugged up goes pew pew and leads overwatch
so far we know sojourn fought along side ow then joined in as a captain as seen in storm rising
then we also know she was a part of the UN's Shutdown of OW
The only things we don't know which are important is the cybernetics and how she got them
Ah makes total sense
she needed some cybernetics as a child, then kept volunteering for more so she could be a better soldier
She essentially wants to be the most advanced human she can be
she has a much more positive outlook on her cybernetics, compared to Genji or Cassidy
and since she had it since childhood she became more accustomed to the cybernetics
still waiting on that "story for another time", Blizzard
An advocate for transhumanism it would seem
because let's be honest, if you had cybernetics as a kid
You'd wanna advance upon it
in for a penny...
I feel she and Zarya might struggle to get along
what is Cassidy's outlook on it?
Idr him saying much
Wasn't it because he failed at smth?
he does have an interaction with Genji
we dont know why Cassidy lost his arm
but he seems neutral about it
ye sounds about right
huh I thought he was more, like
not bitter but
doesn't want to think about it type of thing
He was in Retribution
wasnt it bc of bob
no
oh
its cause in a trailer/cinematic ashe says sometihng about ripping his other arm off like bob did before
she threatened to have him rip off McCree's other arm
oh
she didnt say anything about ripping off the first one
why would you threaten to remove an arm that's already missing?
The people who say it's bob aren't saying she threatened to rip off the missing one
They read "I'll get bob to rip off your other arm" as "I had him rip off your first and now I'll do the same with the second"
We know it's not the case but it's a sensible reading of an unclear phrase
that's what I mean
Ashe threatened to rip off the other one because why would she threaten to rip off the missing one
she wouldn't
I'm saying she's not doing this, even if you read into it that ashe/bob did it
Yeah I didn't assume that Bob ripped off Cole's first arm.
Cause how should I know if he actually did it or not?
He didnt
i think blizzard denied that, idk
He lost his arm in the past 6 years
Between him leaving Overwatch, and the present day of Overwatch 1
maybe against new omnics?
What do you mean by that
werent there omnics OW fought
so maybe there?
at like the start of blackwatch
end actually
cassidy had his arm while in blackwatch
i forgot
The Omnic Crisis was 30 years ago
Cassidy didnt fight in that
And he had his arm after the King's Row Uprising 7 years ago
I mean like when overwatch and blacqatch started kings row for invaded by omnivore
Omnics
Overwatch fell
Yes
He still had his arm after that
Which means he didn't lose it during
They are framing it as if Overwatch 2 is Null Sector's big return after an 8 year absence
So its not that
Mercy probably dosen't aprove of her use of necrotic ammo. If Ana was only using biotic ammo to heal people Mercy wouldn't really have a reason to disaprove of it.
The biotic rifle was probably canned in the first place because Mercy knew it could easily be repurposed to use necrotic ammo
Ana’s also not the one who made the gun/bullets
It was made for Overwatch agents but shelved, then Ana stole it from a base much later, after the fall
same with the soldier rifle
Naturally
But I haven't seen anyone claiming Soldier made it
Look at this. Apparently, we get a slight look at another character redesign
Hog sporting a leather jacket and new hook
And a mohawk
that is awesome
I don’t see a mohawk. I don’t think we can see his head enough to say that
Though, I thought I saw tusks on what looked like bottom half of his mask
Also, yea. Looks more like a biker now. Even has some new colors to his gun and chain
You know what would be color? Making the lenses in his mask more transparent like they did with Pharah’s visor
It would match his artwork better
i don't really want them to show his face but some kind of effect on the eyes could be cool
Here's the upper view of the new Hog, you can see his Mohawk
... realising I cant post images
anyone with image perms I can dm this to for you to paste?
you can see his mohawk and new jacket
his shoulder thing now looks like part of a bike chain with spikes on it?
yea it used to be a tire like in the image above
Its definitely a mohawk fromt he looks of it
And a full jacket rather than just a saddlebag vest
Damn. Hog actually got the drip
If he looks like this, then I can’t wait to see what my main looks like. Junkrat
Though, a mohawk. Kinda looking a little more boar than pig now. Wonder if he does have tusks on his mask after all
roadboar
I can’t wait to see the rest. We’ve just about seen all heroes new looks now
We didn't see Ana, Dva, Doomfist, Echo, Orisa, Junkrat... and Symmetra? We Saw 76 new profile pic but not the full redesign, and Zarya on the comic.
i mean a lot of pigs actually do grow tusks. hopefully the new mask does have them itd be super cool
Well, it might. But as I had also said earlier, it be cool if his lenses were transparent and actually showed his eyes
I really like this new design
There's no guarantee Zarya's look from the comic will be her new look in ow2 though, or has that been confirmed..?
Not guaranted indeed, but her hairstyle and outfist do look like a redesign. You can rule her out if you want, it's legit
This is her new look. Otherwise, it was pointless in using it if she was the only one among Cassidy, Fareeha, and Baptiste to not have her new look
Ive always wondered, is Roadhog a literal pig man? Is his "WANTED" spray canon?
^
It is a canon wanted poster. But that's not what he looks like. Its just how an artist drew him based on description.
Idr if he was a Project Titan thing
Or I'm talking out my A- oh cool
Off the top of my head Tracer, Reaper, and Mercy had explicit Titan stuff ywah?
Or was it all of the OG cast
Ewww I prefer his current look
It's not much different but
Tracer, Reaper, Widow, Rein, Genji/Hazno were based on classes
interesting
Roadhog, Pharah, and Torbjorn are based on existing assets presumably
Ig Soldier was more of an OW itself byproduct
Soldier is based on Chris Metzen's OC
So cool
Cassidy is based on a Starcraft character
He is? Huh hadn't heard that
Here is Chris Metzen's Soldier 76
Eugh
Here is the Starcraft design
Ooh good shit there
Surprised this isn't a skin
Could def work
Metzen 76
I'd love that as a skin
looks like normal casidy just more ruggid
@quick oracle ||The Leader of Null Sector||
Soujorn said "max is ready to take off" in storm rising implying that he was already on the helicopter but when the cutscene comes he's still running to it?
does it take that long for him to run to the copter?
that's what I found not making sense about the scene
That phrase means "to flee", as well
Or. His escape vehicle was ready to go while he wasn’t
Remember, he was forced to run on foot after his car was taken out
Then please just delete it.
Do you guys know if sigma know what talon is doing to him or if he is unaware and just manipulating him
He isn't aware that he is being used by the villains.
Or rather
By a terrorist organization
Sigma
Like who do we know the least about
Sigma.
Zen is the other argument, but its Sigma.
We also know little about Hammond as well.
Ok nice
But we know more than we do about Sigma
Part of the problem is that his own origin story was misleading
What do you mean
When his origin story first released, it presented the idea that he was more aware of his state and that he was harnessing the violence of gravity.
But his in game personality is mostly innocent and unaware of that
Even in combat
And that personality was also pretty much absent from his gameplay trailer too
Yeah I know what you mean his voice lines are very innocent and in the trailer it looked as though he wanted destruction
Soooo. Kinda like plastic surgery but make it futuristic lol
kinda
sure cybernetics are great to replace missing or injured limbs, but they're also an upgrade to healthy limbs for people with the money
I kinda took the change in personality to be out of order, that he's nice and naive rn but as time goes on he might become more violent and unhinged
So like the origin story is in the future
that wouldnt make sense
Sigma's origin trailer was very abstract because of the limited time they had to produce it
Nesskain had 6 weeks to do 4 illustrations
What stopped Genji from having cybernetics like Soujourn's?
what do you mean?
I think their talking about the slide boost and arm turning into a gun type stuff and why genji doesn't have stuff like that
because Genji's body was built to make him function like a human
not to make him more of a weapon
His cybernetics compliment his skill set
His arm dispenses shurikens
Sojourns is another gun
Doomfists allows him to use the Doomfist
Symmetras lets her use her glove and complements her hard light bending (presumably)
Torbjorn uses his in conjunction with his forge
The only heroes who don't really use complementary cybernetic are the ones with unwanted cybernetics thanks to amputations
Cassidy and Junkrat
Junkrat probably blew his limbs off
And Cassidy... Doesn't really use his arm too much
If Widow was hired to kill Cassidy what's the likelihood of her success
both of them are pretty skilled in combat and knowing of their surroundings - its hard to judge
I'm very much biased to Cassidy, and we've seen more of his combat than what we've seen of Widow's
depends on the environment
im leaning more on widow since she has access to mobility
Cassidy knows how people, especially criminals, think. Having his own experience being one himself and being trained by Blackwatch will do that
I’m more inclined to believe Cassidy would have the advantage over her given his own experience since his younger years and time in Overwatch.

