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Hanzo always had a beard. But much like Cassidy, his grew out
It also looks like Hanzo has more graying in his hair now, really showing his age in the new game
I hope they soon add them to the website so you can direct compare with the same pose
They probably are now, because the new looks part of the site is acting up
Don’t know if it’s just me or not having that issue
Nope. It’s the site in general for Overwatch 2. They must be updating a few things as we speak.
Soldier also has a beard
Almost all the men in OW2 have beards huh
In Overwatch 1:
- Baptiste, Cassidy, Hanzo, Lucio, Reinhardt, Torbjorn have beards
- Doomfist, Junkrat, Sigma, Soldier are clean shaven
In Overwatch 2:
- Baptiste, Cassidy, Hanzo, Lucio, Reinhardt, Soldier, and Torbjorn have beards
- Sigma is clean shaven
- We haven't seen Doomfist or Junkrat
I excluded Genji, Reaper, and Roadhog for obvious reasons
Sigma looks so good
He got shoes now
Yeah I really dig his new look aswell
same
is the code of violence story the first time we hear of reaper's wife and son?
i dont think her name was mentioned anywhere before
doom with a beard 💀
Yes
It was implied he was straight, and we knew he was married
Plus we saw some people he was stalking in Reclections and guessed it was his family
Now we know for sure, and she now has a name
Was Moira working in Overwatch and then kicked out, then recruited into Blackwatch?
Or was she just recruited by Reyes after publishing her paper
the second one
aight thx
does cass and echo go way back
ohhh
@umbral zephyr ask here
I have a serious question.
If there is any body who can explanation or translate what is the voices in speakers in Numbani in the airport.
Don’t mind if I spelt it wrong
Lol
Prob cause they are
Yeah everything else is in there so wouldn't be surprised
Why is this scaring me
Aww dw haha
Wait, he was?
I thought he meant to guard Echo specifically
Didn't Liao get killed?
Its glitchy right now, but its just generic airport sounds. Like, calling flights
Do we know how he or Echo feels about him failing that?
Idr anything about them mentioning it at all
He hasn't talked about it explicitly, but he does show a lot of general self loathing prior to New Blood.
Yeah i feel like that'd be a major discussion point if he actually brought it up
it will probably come up in the dialogue during missions in OW2
guys since OW2 is almost here i want to get into the lore
where do i start motherfrickers?
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
is there like a site where i can watch everything in chronological order?
i know the shorts ive seen them all
do you mean, like chronological in the story, or chronological by release order
chronological by release
i want to watch everything in a chronological release orer
I have a list

im so pumped for ow2
FINALLY THIS GAME GETS REVIVED
and it gets the love it deserves
mmmmmmmmm juicy lore
if you have any questions, the regulars here are very knowledgable
lore question whos the most evil in overwatch?
also in ur list the unclickable links is stuff thats not out yet right?
yes
most evil... that's hard to say
depends what you consider evil
probably Reaper
then Reaper
doing evil shit just for the sake of evil
shel'd feel alive for a second
I'd say Moira tbh
I see evil as intent to cause harm
Moira doesn't intend to cause harm, she just doesn't care if she does
Now that we have Code of Violence
I would say its Widowmaker
Followed by Reaper
But if you define evil as intent to cause harm, Roadhog is a strong contender
He is probably the hero whose motivation is led by spite
Widow just wants to feel alive, and Reaper has his own twisted sense of justice.
Moira has no regard for humans. Her experiments could most definitely be worse than just death.
if saving a life benefited science, she would do it
in fact she did
she saved Reyes's life
That doesn’t make sense though, like why would they still call flights?
So no one knows what it’s saying cause like it’s broken and stuff
We can probably go look at launch footage to find out
The airport broke when Orisa released
But it shouldnt be anything too significant
We witnessed it first hand in Hero of Numbani through Efi
the airport is supposed to represent a moment in the story - when Doomfist attacked
they wouldn't leave the airport like that and keep using it - it would get fixed
Does anyone besides Ana and Jack from old Overwatch know that Moira is part of Talon now?
And only them + Mercy know Reyes is Reaper?
Something like that yes
god i love this channel
Though the devs said Cassidy would recognize Reaper if they met, but they haven't yet
Doomfist knows that Reaper is Reyes too
I imagine all of the Talon overseers know
daaaamn
i gotta say the alive cinematic
kicks so much ass
it has to be my fav
who was that omnic that widow killed?
Mondatta, an omnic who spoke about humans and omnics equality and peace and stuff, someone can explain better since I dont really remember the full context
Reaper in the infiltration cinematic kicked more a$$. Defeating multiple soldiers with ease before proceeding to destroy a mech which was suppose to be one if Russia's most powerful weapons and defeated it in a few minutes
So yeah Reaper is badass
Reaper is a cartoon villain who monologues too much
still cool though
? weren't u the one who said CoV helped him a lot though?
Darth Vader monologues too and he is still considered to be a badass villain
I did
but he's still overdramatic
It's fiiine
So... any interesting correlations between Sigma and Winston?
Did they say when new blood 5 is coming out?
It's worth noting those interactions above currently don't play
They were one sided
what's new blood 5?
!!newblood
If the bot will load...
It's the 5th and final issue of the Cassidy comic series
We got one for the first issue already
Its unlikely we will get a second
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible however. There isnt any other event happening, and a few heroes do have some unique designs from the series that don't exist as skins yet
Mainly Baptiste and Zarya. D.Va might get one too.
And those designs we saw are not their new looks.
Or at least Baptiste's wasn't, but based on that, I would assume the same holds true for Zarya and potentially D.Va
Technically, Archives is the next coming event. However, considering the circumstances, it’s possible that the event will be skipped this time around
Possibly, if we’re lucky, for Overwatch 2 since something is coming in April for it
It’s a closed beta, but hearing the words alpha for the game has me wondering if the game is coming either in April or the following month
Though, still think we won’t see OW2 until November. Black Friday and other holiday shopping, ya know
Alpha comes before Beta
there will be several rounds of beta testing before OW2 is ready
it definitely won't be out in April
That’s why I also said November. October, November, and December are the best months to drop a new game
They seperated the PvP and PvE
There is nothing to drop
Nonetheless, Archives is in early April. The beta is set to start after Archives ends
I dont see why they would cancel the event
Depends on whether or not they really have anything for it
New skins are fine and dandy, but really I feel they were kinda scrapping the bottom of the barrel last year
But whatever the case, this might be the last we see of the same old dull Archives until OW2 drops
Which might then open up new Archive missions
I don't think we will get new Archives missions
That's the point of the campaign
And hero missions
Especially since the design space for archives is incredibly limited
True. But I feel there could be something new from Archives
Sojourn is a prime example of characters who could get an archive mission
archives is before the beta
The problem with archives is that it gets monotonous with the area and scope
If you want something from 10-5 years ago, your choices are:
Support: Ana, Mercy, Moira (BW only)
Tank: Rein, Winston
DPS: Cassidy, Genji, Reyes, Jack, Torb, Tracer
You can throw in Sojourn to that last section
But at the end of it, you're still just repeating a lot of heroes for old events with a limited capacity
Plus if you do Talon... You have a lot of the same problems
You can either do:
Support: Moira, Baptiste
Tank: Sigma (???), Doomfist (???)
DPS: Reaper, Sombra, Widow
And of those, Reaper and Doomfist are mutually exclusive
They cannot share a mission
Likewise, Baptiste is too small time to be on any mission from what we know
He was just a medic from a squad
He wasn't an elite yet
Archives just isn't feasible in the future of OW2
??? Last years halloween skins were good, same with the winter ones
They're talking about the unpopular history theme from last Archives
How are the 2 overwatch novels ?
They're good.
Ah fair enough
The Orisa novel is mostly about Efi. It is a kids book, but its fine for what it is. It was written to appeal to kids but explores some interesting stuff about the world. Doomfist is also a fantastic villain.
The Ashe novel is about Ashe and McCree starting the Deadlock Gang. Its a young adults book as well, but its written to more high school rather than middle school imo. Semantics either way, but I prefer that one.
I meant the history theme skins from last year’s Archives Event. I mean, they just seemed to be scraping the barrel with those ones
I’m not saying all skins are bad, just that they seem to be out of good ideas for Archives is all
ah by this trend we can expect an adult book
also can someone pin this? this is really helpful if u want to get into the lore
ayo? :p
I liked the historical skins
and I'm pretty sure people have been asking for a "Soldier: 1776" skin since launch
Does the deadlock novel tell how mcree lost his arm ?
Did u enjoy the novels ?
he lost his arm a long time after the events of that novel
yes, they're very good
I especially liked the audio book versions
The Hero of Numbani is read by Cherelle Skeete (Orisa)
Deadlock Rebels is read by Jen Hale (Ashe)
That's fantastic
Jen Hale is particularly fun to listen to - I love her McCree impression
I'm familiar with them since I like vox machina
I can't wait for overwatch to have a proper single player campaign
Or well coop
single player is unlikely
Ye it will be coop, but it's still gonna be fun !
Who knows where the story will go
I'm still going through that list of yours
I like co-op games
more or less
Cassidy, Reaper, Mercy, Soldier and Mei
tbh all the heroes have interesting lore
but those 5 are the most interesting to me
Whos Cassidy
McCree's real name is Cole Cassidy
Wasn't it Jesse McCree
that was an alias
a lot of criminals/outlaws have aliases
Cassidy ain't no criminal, he's a dispenser of justice
unfortunately the law doesn't see it that way
killing bad guys still makes you a killer
stealing from the rich still makes you a thief
and mccree just went "screw the law"
hmm dvas lore is kinda uhh dumb
maybe i dont get it or i need more context
after watching the shooting star video
doesnt korea have a military to deal with the omnics?
why call pro gamers to pilot mechs?
who made that call roflmao
imagine ur country goes to war and u are drafterd cuz u are pro at call of duty
like wtf
As the omnic continued to adapt, it eventually disrupted MEKA's drone-control networks, forcing the military to place pilots in the mechs. Scrambling to find suitable candidates, the government turned to the country's professional gamers, who possessed the necessary reflexes and instincts to operate the mechs' advanced weapons systems. Top stars were drafted, including reigning world champion Hana Song, also known as "D.Va." Famous for her elite skills, D.Va was a fierce competitor who played to win at all costs, and she had a well-earned reputation for showing no mercy to her opponents.
ok fair enough i guess
i still have to like make myself believe it
i dont really buy it XD
but its fine
its fiction
it is a bit of a wild idea
I assume they were going to draft people anyway, so it made sense to draft people with semi-relevant experience.
It's still kinda wild though
???? wtf i didnt know this
are any of the comics or anything voiced as well?
wait no
not in English
Hero and Rebels are the only short stories right
but there is a reading of Valkyrie on YouTube done by the Japanese VA of Mercy
only novels, yes
interesting
Im personally a reader/LN reader or w/e myself so I prefer novels to the comics, as wonderful as their art is
howdy
the dream is to get a Soldier or Moira novel or smth cause then we'd get more of best VAs~
i want a moira novel
if their VA did a reading of it ofc
Sigma's VA doing an audiobook...
hoo boy
that'd be awesome
Ashe's VA is def one of the top choices for one too so I'm glad it exists
damn I gotta buy those two asap
I heard he has lore in stone by stone but I didn't read the book
I think he has quite a bit, but still a lot to work on
ye it's a decent aside that he had a former bf far before OW was created
I very much would like to listen to these audiobooks now, even if I just get samples.
they're on Audible
why is there the commercial for lucio ohs on this
why not?
is it official lore?
it's in the non-canon section
Didn't know baptise knew Sombra
Yeah it's something I hope they remember going forward
Hes criminal
Cassidy crimal
CASSIDY SOAP DISPENSER CONFIRMED
cole cassidy is a bad name and i hate it XD
Horrid
Cassidy name good
NOOO HANZO
Finally you guys fixed everything
@summer hollow @worthy rose
Guys why Cassidy was invaded
Isn't Cassidy toxic
invaded?
Not you omnic Austin and teddy i asked
This is a public channel.
But i used the tag above nvm
PM knows about more about it than me lol
I mean not in this case cause I have no idea what the question is
Wtf is goin on

Yeah wtf is the question I dont get it
What the fuck are you talking about
IDK. I’m just wondering how long until the shitposting ends
anyone know if it's possible to get high quality (lossless/flac) versions of the soundtracks here: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/media/
im not sure where on the link you're referring to but the overwatch youtube released a bunch of their soundtracks not too long ago
@mint sedge
yeah I'm listening via youtube to those (Heroes and Villains, etc.), but was looking for a download link for flacs. At some point, Synaesthesia Auditiva was offered in flac and I downloaded those, but would like the others.
I also have the CE soundtrack which I ripped myself from the CD
I dont know if its lossless, but they can also be found on Spotify
if it's on spotify then it's definitely not lossless
.
No spoilers, but I just read New Blood #5. What can I say except this? IT WAS AWESOME 🤩
Sadly, D.Va does not have a new look revealed in the comic, but it’s fine
We can wait a bit longer since we already got new looks revealed for Sigma, Hanzo, Brigitte, and Zenyatta

any news on new blood 5
A question: on relationships scheme Shimada clan is connected with two other icons (rivalry and former). Those are Hashimoto and Yamagami?
correct
ty
yamagami
Hashimoto
both emblems can be found on the Kanezaka map - the Yamagami emblem is on the Yamagami sword shop, and the Hashimoto emblem is on the Tiger's Den bar
(I'm kinda assuming that's the Hashimoto emblem, but it makes sense)
Ah, i see. Thanks again
I was actually wondering a lot where does Hashimoto emblem come from
thx doc
a question about the hero of numbani novel
when will it get better?
ive read half of it
The parts with Doomfist
It gets better when Doomfist is a focus
He is easily the best part of that novel
his speech/monologue was my favourite part
I'd love to hear that spoken by Sahr Ngaujah
he actually gets to be a pov?
he makes a speech when he attacks Numbani
yes
ok that could be interesting
the first half of the book was boring for me
its very uhh slice of lifey
New Blood part 5 officially out yet?
what is new blood about?
Cassidy going around the world getting people who weren't in the original Overwatch to join the new one
oh thats pretty cool
ive read the baptiste short story
so he is a pretty good choice
so is pharah since her mother is in it
dunno about zarya and dva tho
ana isn't in the new overwatch
All of them are good choices because they're strong assets to the new one
||zarya's new look isn't that bad||
Pharah's mother being in the old one isn't why she's accepted
not why she is accepted but why she would want to join
i dont think overwatch suffers from nepotism xD
the old one was the opposite in fact
Ana didn't want her to follow her steps so Pharah was never invited
didnt pharah change her mind in that comic
where her group got attacked by robots
and she learned the value of camaraderie
Not about overwatch she didn't
hmm
i have to read these comics but i have to finish hero of numbani 😭
yoooo
omfg that ART
zarya and bap <3333333
I always forget how "old" Bap is
he always seemed like a very early 30 or late 20s
would've thought zarya to be older.. huh
new blood spoilers ||I knew it meka squad will join overwatch||
Honestly I’m loving this comic
I suspect it’ll be and ally relationship when an ow story mission comes to Korea
New hero potentials
we might have a mission in Korea where the MEKA squad backs us up (as NPCs)
so they're headed to Gibraltar, what for? Null Sector attacking?
cass and bap feel younger than they are
must be their personalities lol
to meet up with Winston
how old was cass when he and reaper first met?
ik they that archives mission too
Ooh right it was his recall
Cassidy and the Deadlock Gang was busted by Overwatch when he was 17
god im so happy this channel is so active again
17 huh
damn way younger than i thought
hi
The moment ||Overwatch arrived to assist the MEKA Sqaud was amazing||
are u joking?
if a player is really good, and getting hackuzated, it is an ironic voice line
She's being sarcastic because her accuracy is good enough that it looks like she is using an aimbot.
soldier:76 should have a line similar
but he has the line that goes why are there children or whatever
New Blood #5 is the finale of Cassidy's lead-in story to OW2, featuring D.va and the MEKA squad!
Read it here:
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/media/stories/new-blood-5/
Very true. He has aimbot ult so it’ll be funny lol
He's in his 50s. D.Va is 30+ years younger than him. Even Tracer is ~30 years younger.
but he doesnt say that to tracer?
Again, gameplay != lore.
His ult doesn't actually exist like how it works in game
Its just a HUD, it doesn't actually aim for him
ah ok
But that button doesn't exist on a keyboard.
Ikr! I would personally enjoy it
Also, we finally see how ||Baptiste’s Immortality Field works! It really does put up a barrier ||
More or less, yeah. ||The short story was a bit more vague about it.||
New Blood #5 is the finale of Cassidy's lead-in story to OW2, featuring D.va and the MEKA squad!
Read it here:
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/media/stories/new-blood-5/
I always knew that’s how it worked after the explosion that blew Baptiste and Mauga away
Or I guess only blew Mauga away
The fact that it still knocked Baptiste back some implied that it wasn't a barrier
prototype device hummed in the air, emitting a protective field of energy around him. It was the only thing that
had kept him alive```
I kinda think it might be a type of barrier. Just not in the same sense as Reinhardt’d or Brigitte’s shields
Or Orisa’s or Sigma’s barriers
Then again, it could’ve been due to the disk being a prototype that Baptiste was still affected by the force of the explosion
So does Magua have a shot at being one of the new heroes?
Magua, Junkerqueen, and Sojourn are like most likel;y yeah?
Sojourn obv
Also, I’m digging ||Zarya’s new look. Much better than her current look||
ponytails are always GOAT
Mauga is hinted at being a new hero
Sojourn has been confirmed
Junker Queen is hinted at
Btw how much time passes between Winston recalling the squad and them actually coming back
Essentially what I'm asking is how much time has passed after the recall cinematic until the zero hour one
I assume a lot since characters have changed looks
Only like a year at best
I dont think torbjorn will explicitly send bastion, I think bastions interest in joining would be the more influential factor
or perhaps reinhardts opinion
dates are mostly speculative, based on the few concrete dates we have
Have you updated that with newer comics?
new blood is there, but not the reaper one
the reaper one wouldve been ages before though
and stone by stone?
Stone By Stone would be somewhere on here, but we don't have any reference to when it happens
I’m pretty sure it’s happening some time during aug blue but that’s a guess?
same with Shooting Star, Hero, Dragons, Dragonslayer, A New World, Going Legit, Destroyer, Binary, Trainhopper, and Mission Statement
they all happen somewhere in that year
Was reunion meant to be Cassidy making his return to "doing stuff"
Which lead into new blood?
Think so
Reunion was Cassidy rescuing Echo
Tbh it’s a really great chart gj on making it though
Oh wait when did train hopper happen
So reunion is like the first issue of new blood in a way
pretty much
Swag
Is the new India map the same as the temple in Suravasa
And Suravasa is in or near Varanasi right?
If Varanasi is the name of the map, yes
Correct
read Code of Violence
no
rude
lmao
Reaper hates Sombra because she's disobedient, undisciplined and deliberately tries to provoke him to anger
Also I think Reaper generally doesn't trust Sombra. It was said either in Widow-Reaper or Moira-Reaper interaction.
Do you think Satya eventually will join Overwatch?
maybe
Is Torb’s hammer a universal level weapon
it's a hammer
Is Reinhardt on steroids?
No.
lmfao
wait how is rein so much younger seeming in honor & glory if it's that close to overwatch's "current" time?
The modern part of Honor and Glory is
where he's talking to Brigitte and pays respects to Balderich
Honor and Glory is set in the present and the past.
The young Rein parts are 30 years ago
^
The old Rein parts are post Recall
Honor and Glory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfk5HykiEk
Explore the origin story of Overwatch’s rocket-hammer wielding knight in our latest animated short: Honor and Glory! Then begin your watch on PC, PlayStation 4, or Xbox One: http://www.buyoverwatch.com
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Where's my embed...
Oh right I forgot H&G also has the modern part
shortened links don't embed
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Anyone here has a place to watch Overwatch comics?
!!loreComics
Comics Series 1:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG
Tracer - London Calling:
#1: https://bit.ly/3mknXBx
#2: https://bit.ly/318GEix
#3: https://bit.ly/3lorayj
#4: https://bit.ly/2MTe3JM
#5: https://bit.ly/3bD4dVi
Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI
You can read them all here
Oh dam thank you
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Can anyone give me a summary of the reaper short story
The plot is minor. Its one of Reaper's first missions in Talon, around 5 years ago, where he and Sombra go to retrieve Sigma.
What is more important is how it reveals a lot of Reaper's character and motivations.
Its a short story, I'd recommend just giving it a read
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL
alright
Because it’s twitter
That's mostly because Twitter wanted Overwatch 2 news, and got the final piece of Overwatch 1 story instead
so what exactly is overwatch 1
like archive of what overwatch used to be?
and overwatch 2 is finally focusing on the present?
kinda
for OW1, the game isn't canon aside from the Archives missions
OW2 will have a story campaign in the PvE
updated my lore appearances list
I KNEW i was missing so much shit from Hanzo
he feels so empty to me despite how amazing Dragons is
....Moira only appears twice?
wtf
also ur amazing this is a cool image
I like making lists
oh I need to update Baptiste for New Blood
there we go
Hanzo, Junkrat, Roadhog, Bastion, Torbjorn, Moira and Wrecking Ball haven't been seen in the lore in 4 years
Bastion and Torbjorn are confirmed to be part of the OW2 story, and Moira is likely
i really struggle with hero of numbani
im almost done with it and i cant wait to finish xD
its such a boring read
i get that its a kids book and that doesnt help it at all
If you want a fun book read Reaper's code of violence
is it a short story or a full novel?
Short story
ah ok
Which is a shame cause it was pretty good
like the orisa novel could have easily been a short story
so much boring slice of life stuff
none of the characters really gripped me
Yeah I agree. I prefer action and story rather than slice of life stories
Which is why I like any cinematics with Reaper in it. He's such a boss
efi going to school meeting her friends, constructing robots
teaching orisa how to behave
and if u like that then great but its not for me
tbh it is
it certainly doesnt help that the main character is 11 years old so i have to put up with stubborn kidd stuff and not listening to parents and worrying about fitting in at school
cuz u are not cool enough
and all that shit
ye its boring
but it adds a lot of depth to Orisa's character
that it does
so I appreciate that
it made me appreciate orisa more
Yeah I hate those kinds of kids
it's not a book I'd read again for fun
i feel bad for destroying orisa ingame now
Deadlock Rebels on the other hand...
so much better
Is there any cool gun fights like in retribution?
a couple shootouts
they do break into a weapons factory
there's also a car chase
my biggest complaint about The Hero of Numbani is that so much of the dialogue (particuarly for Lucio) was just voice lines from the game
Deadlock Rebels avoids that
yeah he shows up near the end
cool
it wont make up for how boring the book is
but at least something exciting happens
but i will be really upset if for some reason orisa wins against doomfist
theres no way
orisa is more powerful than doomfist in lore
...I'll let you read it
oh god
it's not exactly a win, more like... Doomfist retreats
are u reffering to the musem scene
at the end of the novel
I really wish doomfist could be a super mega threatening enemy
like thanos levels
not with 6 infinity stones, just super powerful
has he actually done anything
oh wait yeah the airport
I want to do more, make him seem like someone that needs to be stopped
Nobody in the Overwatch unniverse is going to be a Thanos level threat
hmm maybe a bad comparison
but you know what i mean, more like ultron maybe
pick up a city type shit
Overwatch has a very low power level
Iron Man is more powerful than the strongest Overwatch character
:(
Honestly Spiderman can beat Doomfist and perhaps Reaper
I mean what is spiderman gonna do to reaper
very little in Overwatch is superhuman
The same thing he does to Sandman
Only Reaper and Soldier are
No
havent watched, doesnt he get shoved into a train or smth
Tracer and Sigma are super human
By real life standards they seem to be
I was disputing the only
Oh I see
what even is the definition for superhuman
And non humans like Winston and Orisa
beyond normal human capability
@worn island Sandman is like Reaper in that he can degenerate his body into smaller bits that can travel like a mist. Except it's sand instead of cells.
Except Sandman can also do much more
And can be the size of a building
I think the Overwatch verse is about as powerful as Mortal Kombat. Nothing too special like Marvel or Zelda
Reaper is much weaker than Sandman
how did spiderman even do anything to sandman then???
Many different ways
I searched it up and uhhh i dont think vacuum cleaner is the right answer
That's a comic
In comics he's turned him to glass, used water to congeal the sand, etc. Lots of ways
Generally, he finds a way to disable Sandmans ability to turn into sand
He's done the same in the movies
The principle is the same with Reaper
Contain him or disable the ability to use wraith form
Peter Parker is smarter than most if not all Overwatch heroes. The only competition is Winston, but I think Peter is smarter
He has reverse engineered super powers before
And invented tech just for specific villains
Batman would win
i was meaning for reaper
It doesn't matter if it is a easy as water. You're comparing Overwatch to Spiderman
Spiderman is just on a while different tier in every aspect
Against who? If your talking about Reaper I doubt it
Anyone
so what would be the proposed way to defeat reaper
Batman is also on a whole student tier
Neither should have any difficulty with any characters in Overwatch
i think batman would kick anyone of the characters in this game's ass
Spiderman's really strong so I suppose he could break Reaper's bones and leave him limp
thas true
With prep I agree. Without it Reaper or Doom would beat him imo
they wouldn't
^ on god
you know how many gadgets that man has
Literally invent something. He had removed the powers of multiple more powerful villains through invention. He is as smart as Reed Richards. He's invented multi dimensional tech
^ on god
bruh im talking about overwatch
Reaper is significantly weaker than what Spiderman deals with
OVERWATCH
how would overwatch characters defeat reaper
Have you watched any shorts
plus he has 30 billion spongebobs so he could defeat goku
Reaper had almost exclusively been defeated
Winston defeated him
yeah, but i mean like actually beat him
trap him
like contain or kill or something
Disintegration
counteract his regeneration somehow
You can contain him
Or disable his power
Or counteract or
Just fucking kill him
....would a vacuum bag work
but how, wouldnt he just turn to smoke
The short story reveals he is more mortal than we previously thought
No, he needs to actively do it
why doesnt he just stay smokey, does it take too much energy
Because then he can't shoot you
The smoke isn't what heals him
winston or "monkey" is my favorite character in the game :)
Well mine is Reaper and Mcree
dnc
I want to know what happens, not asking if it heals him
so would nothing change
Cole Cassidy *
Reyes' is accelerated and manipulated further by Moira
Oh yeah right
so being smokey does nothing for his health
how can a bunch of cells be injured
why cant he reassemble in a way that heals him
He's never been shown to be capable of doing so
well he hasnt really ever been actually hurt has he
Injuries he had sustained prior to wraithing remain after
He has
Such as in old soldiers and recall
His body is scarred and deformed
That doesn't heal
If your claim that he could heal himself by rearranging his cells
so wraith form really is as boring as it is in game
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kk, good to know I guess
i haven't followed it since like 2018
It doesn't matter if you like it or not. Use the channel for its intended purpose
Final warning. Use the channel for Overwatch Lore only
You are not.
are you suppressing my opinion?
anyway, Reaper is difficult to kill, but not impossible
And it's not too difficult to beat him either
The real powerhouses in Overwatch are like
Signa, Winston, Doomfist, maybe Symmetra
do we know when OW 2 takes place? like is it in the same year as OW1?
1 year later
They told us, but I can't find the source right now on account of I'm on mobile
@peak escarp Is it in your doc?
In pins
Ow2 being one year after OW1 was mentioned in an interview
Yes, but do you have the link to it
In this exclusive Game Informer interview, Andrew Reiner sits down with Jeff Kaplan from the Overwatch team to answer our burning questions about the future of the series. Head to gameinformer.com/blizzard for exclusive gameplay from Overwatch 2, Diablo IV and more.
Video edited by GI intern Alex Stadnik.
timestamped
we'll get a clearer timeline later this year with the Declassified book
so convenient, thx! this is really cool
just a question i had in the back of my mind earlier today. do you think there will be any interactions between jack and reyes? i mean in OW2 ofc ^^
probably
we wont know four sure until a bit later ofc. but i was just really curious
I dont think we'll see them in story missions, but there will still be lore outside the game
ooh i see
is there any chance one of the heroes might die in lore?
like they should still be playable ofc but in terms of story
;O
The old soldiers story line is something i realllly wanna see play out in game
but its seeming unlikely :(
maybe they cross paths with neo ow by chance
they'd need more heroes for it to be playable
which they could do
maybe they run into Hanzo, or there's new heroes introduced that help them out
I want more Hanzo lore
like what the fuck he really has only been in Dragons?
I'm sure Genji or possibly Zen have mentioned him maaaaaaaaybe in their lore but still
Hanzo hasn't been seen or mentioned in the lore since 2016
1 frame of a comic..
ye
the Shimada clan was dismantled
wasn't there a female "clan" hero named before?
the Hashimoto clan took over
her husband Toshiro is a swordmaker
If I had a personal pick on who I want in OW it'd prolly be uhh
Junkerqueen or a male member of D.va's group
another mech character would be fun dammit
and since we only have one tank u cant stack em ig
which is what Blizz wants to prevent
Iggy..
But would it make sense gameplay wise? Two completely similar characters....kinda boring
the title Junkerqueen alone is ripe with lots of gamemplay possibilities
You think so? I think another mech hero expanding on the idea would be more fun
Instead of another fucking healer-dps in Soldier
Bap
Zenyatta
Junker Queen rose to fame as a mech battle champion in the Scrapyard
love it.
Next step: healer tank
I thought an interesting idea would've been an official cross-role hero
Like officially make uhh Baptise Damage-Support
that wouldn't work
oh true
it goes against the OW design philosophy
if would be bad if you had to guess whether Baptiste was taking the support role or the damage role
What if they just made skins of other mech characters on diva (but they'll have to change all the voice lines as well, which is too much work for a skin).
And brig across all boards
brig would be support-dps to me
def not tank material
i don't think we have any hero rn with tank-support capability
maybe uhh
Oh Zarya
possibly?
I'm just joking there (and according to brig bullying culture)
lol
one of them had a barrier in the newest new blood comic
I wanna see dva mech but with a barrier
kinda like rein-brig mix
still better than hog
stupid oversized reaper with a portable healthpack
Check wiki for at least some kind of answer its probably accurate
Someone correct me on this if im wrong
The wikis telling me he’s 5 foot 7 and i dont believe it
Sounds accurate
That's around the average horilla height
Winston's height was confirmed as well, as were all of the first 18 heroes
I just struggle to believe that im bigger than winstonoverwatch
Winston is 5’7” standing on all fours, and 7’3” on hind legs
That makes more sense
Winstonoverwatch
there are other winstons so
During Winston's Ultimate in-game shows him on his hind legs, and yeah, he's very tall.
so i think one of the first missions in ow 2 will be in Gibraltar
after rio or?
At the end of the New Blood comic, ||Cassidy and the rest of 'em head to Gibraltar to meetup with everyone I'm assuming after the events of Paris or Rio. ||
So yeah, it'd make sense Gibraltar will be one of the first locations in the campaign.
and i think its there that they will be ambushed by null sector or talon
I doubt they'd get ambushed that early on in the story, I have a feeling Gibraltar will be the home base you return to after a mission, perhaps a lead up to the final mission will begin with everyone getting attacked.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'd love to see that. Gibraltar got to be my favorite location lorewise.
But past Gibraltar tho
I have little hope, but it would be fantastic if some of the missions took place before recall, in the past.
Just like archives pves i suppose
i want to do talon missions
They are very likely to be there, since they had promised to include all heroes in the missions
did they promise all heroes in story/lore missions?
for example, the junkers, how would they fit into overwatch story
Just a separate line? Like a side story
comic relief
Or they'll squish them in somehow
while in a pickle they get saved by junkrat and roadhog who come riding in on a motorcycle
I'm pretty sure they straight up confirmed that some heroes wouldn't be in the story
Like the junkers and hammond
no reunion for hammond and winston? ):
In the storyyy, but does that mean they won't have skill tree and pve like all other characters which is the major point of ow2?
At least I hope it ain't so. Not even passionate about junkers, but that for sure would make me sad.
immagine if they make new new blood comics and cass recruits hammond
Then Cass gets kidnapped and is recruited in junkers instead
finished the hero of numbani novel
daamn
its kinda meh
5/10
also they nerfed doomfist so much in that novel
holy shit
|| he lost against lucio and orisa are u fucking shitting me? ||
but it is a kids novel i guess
i also hate how they used him as a cartoon villain at the end || well guss i lose so i have to uhh kill my own allies so i can run away like a coward XD ||
|| even lucios appearance felt weird, i dunno it just felt off for some reason, book is 80% about efi and slice of life stuff which bored me to tears||
the only good part of the book is orisa herself
it made me appreciate the hero much more
now ill even start to play her XD
Orisa does good damage if you can aim
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they said the opposite actually
not all heroes will be included in story missions
but they will all be playable in Hero Missions
Wow that sucks if that's true lol. Doomfist was a boss, destroying both Genji and Tracer and then he lost to a musician....
It smells like you’re overestimating a guy who’s human with nothing but fighting skills and cybernetic prosthetics
and u are overestimating a newly born robot that has little to no combat experience and a music star
oh and an 11 year old
An 11 year old who’s clearly smarter than him, a robot with a heart and enhancements, and a guy with sonic tech
Said guy dodged electricity and can send cars flying just by punching the ground
ah ye 11 year old smarter than doomfist
ofc
xd
it was a kids book so ofc he had to lose
but eh
it was just way too convenient
and he retreated cuz he was scared xD
like gtfo
basically so he could escape them doomfist had to throw a guy off a building
so he can escape freely
to create a distraction
xD
Yep pretty sad
No. Doomfist made the mistake of every villain. He underestimated his opponents and became certain of his victory. Thus leading to his defeat
Yeah typical cliche
was just nah
and somehow he didn't lose to tracer and genji
and winston