This is verging on shitposting
#lore-discussion
iron plume
worthy rose
Yeah, and I'm all about that. But sometimes, great discoveries have been made by scientists outside of their chosen fields while investigating their chosen fields.
peak escarp
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
and so far you have provided none
worthy rose
I'm not shitposting and I resent that. Frankly, I'm not sure why you're being so hostile, Party Magician.
worthy rose
and so far you have provided none
I have, many times, but you're always just like, "Nah, bro. Because nah."
peak escarp
peak escarp
I have, many times, but you're always just like, "Nah, bro. Because nah."
I mean sources
actual lore sources
iron plume
Things you came up with are not evidence.
worthy rose
I mean sources
I think we all know what we're talking about, I've alluded to Sombra's Infiltration cinematic, her other lore cinematic, Sigma's, etc.
peak escarp
you keep saying "Sigma discovered something" except he didn't
worthy rose
And several locations on various maps.
iron plume
All of which are explained without aliens
worthy rose
He claims to have made extraordinary discoveries, he's obsessed. Obsessed with the melody he discovered.
peak escarp
Sombra was seen by something/someone, that does not conclusively mean aliens
iron plume
He's obsessed with the melody because it keeps playing in his head
peak escarp
it could be a lot of things
worthy rose
You've had melodies keep playing in your head, too, Party Magician, but it didn't inspire you to weaponize cosmic forces.
peak escarp
And several locations on various maps.
several locations that reference aliens that are part of fiction within the OW universe
worthy rose
There's something special about the melody he discovered.
iron plume
He tried to utilize the cosmic force before he got the melody stuck in his head
That's how he got it stuck
worthy rose
several locations that reference aliens that are part of fiction within the OW u...
Right, and I connected that fact to another point I made about a possible cover up and the popularization of a bastardized version of the truth of alien life in OW.
peak escarp
which has no evidence
iron plume
He can control gravity because he was successful in his research
It just came with side effects
peak escarp
it's a conspiracy theory
worthy rose
And that's perfectly in-keeping with Blizzard's past methods of foreshadowing and it would be brilliantly thematic, they're one-eyed and tentacular but they definitely look different from the caricatures seen in-universe. It most probably goes back to the days when Overwatch was being developed as an MMO. And I don't mean Crossworlds, I mean the Overwatch universe MMO.
peak escarp
how are aliens thematic to Overwatch?
frosty shell
Project Titan? Yeah
worthy rose
Here's a snippet from an older Kotaku article that's always stuck out to me.
"Elements from Titan were repurposed in Overwatch's earliest content. According to a Kotaku article, Titan was meant to be an MMO set in near-future Earth after fighting off an alien invasion. Players would do mundane jobs during the day and wage clandestine warfare against other factions at night."
frosty shell
But that's not Overwatch
peak escarp
Project Titan also had classes instead of heroes and bunch of other concepts that got dropped
worthy rose
It is. Among the other scrapped projects from Blizzard's attempts at creating a new sci-fi MMO, going from Star Craft to Crossworlds to Titan, the Overwatch lore we know today existed.
worthy rose
Project Titan also had classes instead of heroes and bunch of other concepts tha...
But many others that didn't get dropped, and others that were not seen at launch but eventually made an appearance.
iron plume
The role of the aliens in Titan has been taken over by Omnics in Overwatch
worthy rose
Most probably not.
iron plume
Quite literally yes
Instead of an alien invasion, the "big crisis before" is an Omnic uprising
worthy rose
Just like World of Warcraft has, not just the Burning Legion, but Old Gods and Hordes and many enemy factions threatening the world, Titan would most assuredly have had a similar ecosystem of villains.
It makes sense.
peak escarp
Overwatch isn't Titan
iron plume
Titan would
Overwatch is not that
If your point is there could be aliens at some point in overwatch, then there's nothing anyone can say to dissuade you
worthy rose
It's the same world, we've just been served slices of it, not the whole cake.
iron plume
You can't prove a negative
worthy rose
I'm not saying 'could.'
worthy rose
I'm saying aliens have been in Overwatch, and they are now in the form of hints, and most probably will be more than that in the future.
iron plume
Titan's world had an alien invasion. Overwatch's didn't
peak escarp
it would be terrible writing for aliens to show up out of nowhere with no hints
worthy rose
I'm not saying that Overwatch's world has been overtly invaded by aliens, but when the Omnic threat has been dealt with, there will be a vacuum for a big bad villain faction.
worthy rose
it would be terrible writing for aliens to show up out of nowhere with no hints
Oh we'll get a ton more hints before they drop, for sure.
peak escarp
and no, there have not been any hints at the existence of aliens in Overwatch
nothing you have brought up is a hint at aliens
worthy rose
We've already gone over how there are, though.
iron plume
If you're saying they will reveal them, you can't prove a negative either
peak escarp
they have other explanations
iron plume
This is a pointless discussion.
ornate gust
i concur
peak escarp
I'm not saying that Overwatch's world has been overtly invaded by aliens, but wh...
the big bad will be Talon
worthy rose
There's precedents.
ornate gust
I'm not saying that Overwatch's world has been overtly invaded by aliens, but wh...
Talon
iron plume
Talon and Null Sector are the villains.
worthy rose
So you think it'll be Talon after Omnics? I guess that could fit, but afterwards it should be Aliens.
iron plume
What there "should" be is your personal opinion
worthy rose
You're right, I ought to have said, 'Probably will be' not 'should be.'
long temple
aliens are stupid
peak escarp
"probably" requires evidence
iron plume
That would be wrong instead, then.
worthy rose
We've gone over tons of evidences.
iron plume
No
worthy rose
I can go over them again but I think you'll just disregard them.
I think this is some kind of 'ego' trip on y'all's part.
iron plume
You've gone over them enough.
long temple
this is like watching an alex jones video in real time
twilit nacelleBOT
Moving swiftly onwards
iron plume
Doubt it
ornate gust
sounds unlikely
long temple
i think it would be really funny
worthy rose
They sell oil products like whiskeys so they probably do have some form of perception for the quality of the products they take into themselves.
long temple
i wanna see bastion with a robot tongue hanging off like a gizzard
peak escarp
"Sigma discovered an alien intelligence" no, Sigma got brain damage and started hallucinating music
"Sombra was witnessed by aliens" no, Sombra was witnessed by an unknown observer
"Hollywood and Route 66 are cover-ups to hide the existence of aliens" do you know how insane that sounds?
iron plume
doc pls
worthy rose
I'd love to continue this discussion
iron plume
Please don't.
long temple
to be fair if sig didn't go insane we wouldn't have his banger schizo music
worthy rose
And I think the fact that you would point it out as sounding 'insane' is very rude and illustrates the bad faith I've been detecting from you very clearly.
Bad faith, disingenuousness and callous contrarianism.
worthy rose
For lore speculation? That's ludicrous.
long temple
orange name dude said stop
iron plume
There is no more to be gleaned from this discussion.
worthy rose
I was tryna talk about omnic tongues and whiskey oil.
iron plume
It's gone on for half an hour and all it amounted to was "yes" "no"
long temple
do you think omnics take oil baths or something
that would be funny
zenyatta bathtub emote
ornate gust
It's gone on for half an hour and all it amounted to was "yes" "no"
lored summed up
iron plume
If you want to waste each other's time, feel free to do so in DMs, but don't waste anyone else's
iron plume
lored summed up
eh it's usually alright
worthy rose
They bottle the oil like whiskey
long temple
i want an entire comic that just follows the daily life of some random omnic with the most basic white dude name ever
like
jake the omnic
worthy rose
I think they probably do consume it the same way then
iron plume
Hah
ornate gust
i want an entire comic that just follows the daily life of some random omnic wit...
twoud be humorous
iron plume
This would actually be an interesting implication
long temple
ooh wait
iron plume
Cause in London Calling there's been omnics who like
Took their names from things that inspired them
long temple
yea
iron plume
In those cases being British rockers
long temple
omnic university or something
i'm betting they would exist
on the grounds of discrimation at regular colleges
iron plume
I'm imagining an Omnic who saw an accountant and was like
"Hell yeah"
ornate gust
doc why do you just have every single ow voice line saved
long temple
I'm imagining an Omnic who saw an accountant and was like
"Hell yeah"
omnic was used to carry drinks at a frat party and got inspired by head frat guy
wears khaki shorts and pink polos exclusively
peak escarp
doc why do you just have every single ow voice line saved
I datamined the voice files
for research
iron plume
Because in places where Omnics are persecuted, they wouldn't have the resources to build their own university
ornate gust
for research
alright
iron plume
And in places where they aren't they can go to human ones
long temple
do you think omnics can be punished under streaking laws
like
we see them wear clothes
but idk if that's a like
feeling human thing
or if it would be legally required
imagine an omnic streaking at a football game
iron plume
Genji doesn't until OW2 and his armor reveals about as much
peak escarp
we've also seen them not wear clothes
iron plume
A dynamic where Omnics would feel pressured to wear clothes in "human" spaces would actually be interesting
iron plume
we've also seen them not wear clothes
where was that
long temple
you can't shank the mfs
ornate gust
A dynamic where Omnics would feel pressured to wear clothes in "human" spaces wo...
that sounds like a very plausible thing
iron plume
If there's omnics in prisons they definitely have their own ones
or at least their own wings
With like
Faraday cages and whatnot
long temple
instead of batons the police just carry hoses in case of riots
spray it like a misbehaving dog
iron plume
ah
peak escarp
Tracer gets jumped by a bunch of naked omnics at the end of LC1
iron plume
well, would fit with my theory
long temple
omnic beards when
iron plume
Since they're in an exclusively omnic space and are the type to resent human customs
peak escarp
yeah it does make sense they'd wear clothes around humans
although Kace's people are a mix - some wear clothes, some don't
long temple
imagine how much cheaper omnic "healthcare" is
peak escarp
it might be harder to find someone to give them a tune-up
depending on where they are
worthy rose
Hey Doctor_Six
I drew a picture of what Overwatch is gonna be like when the Aliens come
worthy rose
Do mcree and sombra hate each other. I know voice lines aren't cannon but in a game yesterday they were arguing about mcrees real name. He just said "my name ain't Joel, remember that "
peak escarp
it's a reference to his codename during development being Joel
limpid agate
Also this in universe: https://bit.ly/2XgY6Pi
desert yacht
Do mcree and sombra hate each other. I know voice lines aren't cannon but in a ...
I can’t imagine a lot of people like her, but I don’t think there’s any confirmed bad blood between them as of yet
austere steeple
has sombra met anyone in overwatch yet? seems like the only things ive seen are her doing stuff solo or with talon against politicians and randoms
im guessing shes met zarya after that extortion stunt she pulled
desert yacht
zarya and talon members are the only ones immediately coming to mind yeah
she and zarya had a confrontation in the searching comic
desert yacht
look at the comic yourself
desert yacht
comics are free
austere steeple
oh shit where are they posted
desert yacht
the only ones you need to pay for are the novels, hero of numbani and deadlock rebels or whatever
look in pins
^(link to the pinned message with the comics)
austere steeple
damn zarya is kind of a jerk
desert yacht
she inherently hates and distrusts all omnics
after seeing what the war did and is doing to her country I don’t blame her too much for seeing things the way she does at the moment
she hasn’t fully seen the potential for good in omnics, she’s only seen what has happened to her country
I think all the comics are great
going legit reminds me a bit of Calvin and Hobbes
austere steeple
lol thats a junkrat and roadhog comic iirc
sounds about right then
never trust a suit
good moral
worthy rose
I believe Sombra and Baptiste are good friends
she checks in on him ever since he left Talon
pastel dust
Really? That's really cool
peak escarp
was dead, but maybe it wasn’t. If Talon was coming for Dr. Ziegler, then she had a right to know. He’d need help tracking her down, but luckily, he knew just who to ask.
Baptiste opened an encrypted app on his phone, entered the password, and hit the call button on the
bottom of the screen. It only rang twice before a familiar voice came through the speaker. “Hey, mijo. It’s been a while.”
“Hey, Sombra,” he said, looking at Dr. Ziegler’s profile. “Can you do me a favor?”```still funny that she calls him "mijo"
she's younger than him
pastel dust
It's great to know Sombra's got an actual friend that isn't blackmailed
limpid agate
Its her only friend, more or less
finite urchin
only friend that we know about
worthy rose
So mcree loves ashe
pastel dust
I like to think that their flirting is purely playful banter but I honestly don't mind if they get together
peak escarp
I think the opportunity for that has passed
Ashe won't forgive him for betraying the gang
pastel dust
That makes sense. Still up for more interactions between them in OW2
crisp dew
says who tf
pastel dust
Were they? I don't believe that at all
teal swallow
??
frosty shell
omnic university or something
I feel like robots could just download information from the Internet
pastel dust
Possibly, but who knows, maybe they would rather be more human and go to school now that they're sentient
I don't even know if most Omnics are connected to the internet directly
frosty shell
probably not 100% directly due to hacking but I bet they can access it
I think in Hero of Numbani this might be somewhat brought up since (minor spoiler) ||Sombra hacks the Omnics in it||
pastel dust
Oh that's interesting
I haven't read the books but I don't mind spoilers
But now that you mention it maybe Omnic schools might just be so Omnics get experience rather than knowlege, since they can just look that up
limpid agate
No, they were not. Do not shitpost false lore.
visual gust
I think in Hero of Numbani this might be somewhat brought up since (minor spoile...
In one of Sombra's interactions with Orisa,she actually hacks her
cerulean ridge
Fun Fact, Sombra is the only character with 2 different colours in her hair
quiet gorge
Sombra really be counting to 3
1 - friend who didn't blackmail her
2 - hair colours
3 - accidental shots from a hanzo while invisible...
iron plume
They're not a couple so I don't see how they're couple goals
desert yacht
It’s obvious Dey like each other
besides the fact that macree betrayed their 'family' which by the 'family' rules is punishable by death
hushed heart
besides the fact that macree betrayed their 'family' which by the 'family' rules...
Don’t mean nun u can clearly see that Dey still like each other
desert yacht
i see a lot of evidence supporting the fact that ashe wants cree dead
iron plume
Ashe has a love-hate feeling for McCree
McCree is not interested in Ashe as he says in their interaction
next imp
Anyone so ships Ashe and Mcree is the type of person who says “she was asking for it”
Jokes
violet fractal
How does soldier 76’s tactical visor work? Does his mask have some sort of internal link with his gun that tells it to aim at specific targets? Or is it just something that relys on soldiers aim and it’s just something that guides him a little?
iron plume
It's a guidance/highlight system in his visor, we see the way it works in Hero
He still aims himself
finite urchin
It's a guidance/highlight system in his visor, we see the way it works in Hero
it's kinda shitty if it also can only run for 8 seconds
peak escarp
I would assume it can run for as long as he needs it
iron plume
The limitations are a gameplay feature
finite urchin
I would assume it can run for as long as he needs it
i dont think so...you can see the ult duration circle in the middle
during the cinematic
peak escarp
he also uses it in the comic Old Soldiers
finite urchin
he also uses it in the comic Old Soldiers
where...you can see the ult duration circle
so i think it does run for 8 sec only
iron plume
There's no telling for how long it goes in lore even if that circle is a "charge" indicator
finite urchin
There's no telling for how long it goes in lore even if that circle is a "charge...
either way, it doesn't last for long.
I just watched the cinematic in 0.25x speed.
The charge circle was full before he activated it.
iron plume
It lasted enough to take down anyone he needed
finite urchin
That has nothing to do with the point im arguing.
iron plume
It's not a relevant point
finite urchin
What?
What constitutes relevant...
it runs for around 8 seconds
his tactical visor
in canon
do you agree?
iron plume
It doesn't matter
which is why the point is irrelevant
It does what he needs it to do
Even if it runs for a short burst like in-game, it makes him take down enemies in one shot each
finite urchin
I never said it was relevant to the plot of overwatch
peak escarp
we don't see how long it runs for
finite urchin
i was just arguing for the sake of argument
iron plume
Yeah please don't do that
finite urchin
we don't see how long it runs for
not exactly, but we know it runs for 8 sec
around 8 sec
finite urchin
Yeah please don't do that
what? that's what ppl do all the time tho
they argue about stuff like what genji's lights do
iron plume
we don't, unless you make several assumptions
finite urchin
I'm allowed to do that
you guys have even joined in on these discussions yourself
meaningless discussions
iron plume
People argue because they have an actual point they want to make
If you want to start arguments just to start arguments, don't
finite urchin
im not starting an argument...i have an actual point to make
but you disagreed
ok my bad i shoulda rephrased that
iron plume
i was just arguing for the sake of argument
you disagreed
finite urchin
no, im the one who stated that his tactical visor lasts for around 8 sec
and you disagreed
dude just admit you were wrong about everything
ur a mod
jesus christ
finite urchin
i already apologized for that
for phrasing it poorly
his tactical visor lasts for around 8 seconds.
finite urchin
People argue because they have an actual point they want to make
If you want to ...
how is this different from arguing about what genji's lights do?
iron plume
I told you twice how
finite urchin
remember this
iron plume
Are you here just to start shit?
peak escarp
why does it matter how long tac visor lasts for
finite urchin
uh, i was just tryna prove that tactical visor lasts for around 8 seconds
peak escarp
if it ends he can just use it again
finite urchin
but am i correct though?
peak escarp
sure
finite urchin
part magician 2 am i correct?
finite urchin
why does it matter how long tac visor lasts for
it doesn't, i'll admit, but i just wanted to get the details right
iron plume
If you're not here to start shit, then don't
finite urchin
lmao
i was never planning on starting shit
im sorry if i offended you in any way
but i was legitimately tryna see if his visor lasts for around 8 sec or not
next imp
Just like Tracer can blink as much as she wants Soldier never misses
finite urchin
Just like Tracer can blink as much as she wants Soldier never misses
wym by that
iron plume
We don't have any canon evidence for how long it exactly lasts
But since one can't prove an "I don't know", then sure, believe what you will
finite urchin
We don't have any canon evidence for how long it exactly lasts
i just gave you canon evidence
iron plume
Soldier misses when plot demands it
next imp
Cooldowns and ultimates aren’t lore
finite urchin
the 2 times we've seen it in canon, it had an ult charge circle
finite urchin
Cooldowns and ultimates aren’t lore
it is, when it's literally displayed on his visor, in canon
and the ult charge circle lasted really short
if you see right when soldier activates it in heroes
it was fully charged
finite urchin
It's a guidance/highlight system in his visor, we see the way it works in Hero
but it turned to this after a bit
is that enough evidence for you?
peak escarp
we don't see the full duration of the circle
finite urchin
we don't see the full duration of the circle
we dont, but we can see that a quarter of the circle disappears after 2 seconds
so we can basically assume
that a full circle
would last for 8 seconds
is that reasonable to assume?
peak escarp
and then what? we don't know that it will end when the circle is full
you're making assumptions based on game logic
finite urchin
and then what? we don't know that it will end when the circle is full
didn't you just agree with me 5 min ago
ok
peak escarp
that was so you'd stop arguing
iron plume
Regardless
finite urchin
but, his visor turns off
iron plume
if your actual point is it's "shitty", then no
because he gets one shot kills with it during those however many seconds
finite urchin
if your actual point is it's "shitty", then no
my point wasn't that it's shitty
my point is that it lasts for 8 seconds
but i did state it was shitty
iron plume
it's kinda shitty if it also can only run for 8 seconds
Was it not
finite urchin
Was it not
was it not what
fine i rescind that it was shitty if that's what you meant
but my argument was never actually directed at that
and i tried to get you to agree that it lasted for around 8 sec
finite urchin
that was so you'd stop arguing
are you kidding me?
peak escarp
"sure" isn't agreeing with you, it's conceeding
finite urchin
what else would it be for
what else would that circle be for
nothing
holy shit
peak escarp
it's to make it look like it does in the game
finite urchin
then why would it be canon?
finite urchin
it's to make it look like it does in the game
why would they put an in game affect as canon
peak escarp
idk
finite urchin
regardless
even if it was made to look like ingame
that confirms that it exists in canon
that confirms that the ingame stuff is canon
this ingame effect
peak escarp
why does it matter
finite urchin
why do genji's lights matter
peak escarp
they don't
finite urchin
so why are you bringing that up now
you didn't bring "it doesn't matter" up when ppl were arguing what the lights did
you went along with it
peak escarp
I don't remember that
finite urchin
I remember it clearly
in fact
i thought it was stupid that ppl were arguing about it
gritty remnant
so I was looking at the overwatch relationship web, and I know next to nothing about overwatch, I was hoping someone could explain some of the characters to me
peak escarp
why are you being so pedantic?
finite urchin
which is why i remember it clearly
iron plume
The person who brought up genji's lights didn't turn it into a half hour long shitfight
peak escarp
so I was looking at the overwatch relationship web, and I know next to nothing a...
what questions do you have?
iron plume
We went along with you at first too
finite urchin
why are you being so pedantic?
because you aren't agreeing with me bro
if you agreed with me i woulda stopped already
iron plume
Okay, this conversation isn't going anywhere good
Stop, now.
gritty remnant
I was wondering who those 2 people were (aside from roadhog) and why the top person has a dotted line connecting to hammond?
finite urchin
but im correct-
peak escarp
I'm not going to agree with you if I think you're wrong
iron plume
Sure. Stop.
peak escarp
I was wondering who those 2 people were (aside from roadhog) and why the top per...
left is Junkertown Queen, right is Bruce
there's a dotted line because it's theorized that Bruce knows Hammond - Hammond build his mech in Bruce's workshop
peak escarp
iron plume
The treasure is Junkrat and Roadhog's
finite urchin
you guys just won't admit you're wrong lmao it's honestly kinda sad
iron plume
but they're bringing it to the Queen
iron plume
The in-game Junkertown is basically reenacting the Plan
peak escarp
you guys just won't admit you're wrong lmao it's honestly kinda sad
maybe it's 8 seconds, maybe it's not - there's no conclusive evidence either way
gritty remnant
I see I see
iron plume
but, like, if it doesn't go completely wrong because Junkrat is a dumbass
gritty remnant
lol fair enough
finite urchin
maybe it's 8 seconds, maybe it's not - there's no conclusive evidence either way
you know what? you guys just keep saying no to the most obvious stuff because jeff kaplan himself didn't just explicity state, "yes, doctor six, this circle represents his ult duration". Soldier 76's tactical visor lasts for around 8 seconds, because you can see the ult circle in the both times it's shown canon. And in the hero cinematic, it decreases rapidly.
iron plume
I thought I told you to stop?
gritty remnant
oh also I forgot to ask but what is bruce's connection to roadhog?
iron plume
Hog buys his gas from him
gritty remnant
ah I see
iron plume
and as he does they talk like they're on friendly terms, with Bruce apparently being one of the few in the town Hog trusts
that interaction is in Wasted Land
iron plume
Yeah
gritty remnant
checks out
iron plume
He goes with him because he makes the 50/50 deal on their loot but he doesn't actually trust/get friendly
gritty remnant
ah kk, yeah makes sense
I do have more questions, but I'll ask em later
thanks, see ya guys
finite urchin
so I dont know if this was asked already, but does soldier's visor automatically aim for him?
iron plume
The dude was trying to say your question was "pointless"
violet fractal
In ALL of overwatch, not the organization but the whole game, which character would most likely have the best aim? I’m feeling like it’s Ana or mcree, prob wrong though.
peak escarp
Widowmaker
iron plume
Widowmaker is better than her at this point
peak escarp
Ana was a top sniper before she lost her eye
McCree is a crack shot with a handgun, but probably not as good with a rifle
violet fractal
I see.
azure locust
didn't ana teach mcree how to shoot?
azure locust
in one of the voice lines im pretty sure it says that ana taught mcree
peak escarp
finite urchin
i wasn't trying to say your question was "pointless"
austere steeple
junkrat is an explosives wizard but to do that he would need some general mechanical and possibly chemical skills. does he demonstrate that has these? Or can he only apply technical skills to things that explode?
iron plume
Well, he thinks he does at least, if his Oasis line is any indication
But so far we haven't sen any
This one I mean
cosmic crest
He's a savant when it comes to explosives, moronic in any other area.
finite urchin
It’s probably a lot easier to make explosives in the future
Plus that’s literally his job
Making explosives
I mean not really but
There’s really nothing more to his life than exploding shit
And yeah it’s probably a lot easier to make primitive explosives in the future ig
limpid agate
Nah, Junkrat is actually just smart.
Born somewhere else, he would probably be a scientist or chemist. Or professional bombsmith/demolitionist
But he was raised in Junkertown
finite urchin
Tbh that’s just kinda depressing
sullen raptor
Nah, Junkrat is actually just smart.
This is so true..if he werent so crazy or chaotic tho 
vapid zenith
how does the lore explain that the whole point of overwatch is to fight the robot things but for the whole game we just fighting clones of each other
finite urchin
If you want a game where in game is actually canon
Play valorant
Well at least the concept of fighting clones
limpid agate
!!lfg @hushed summit@outer basalt
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next imp
Hi I’m new here
I’m just wondering how long Soldier 76s tactical visor actually Lasts
Like In the lore
I think Soldier can probably hit headshots and never miss forever
Cause he’s like a super soldier and he probably doesn’t miss
And his tac visor is more of a targeting program that helps him
Cause like bullets that just hit their mark for 8 seconds (or whatever) sounds dumb
next imp
how does the lore explain that the whole point of overwatch is to fight the robo...
Naw that ain’t it
craggy goblet
Widowmaker is better than her at this point
ana was better than widow before she lost her eye right
it was just the fact that she hesitated
iron plume
yes
lyric sluice
did ana get the same serum thingy that soldier and reaper got or did she just get that eye thing
isnt she like 80
i dont think she joind ow from the us but idk maybe i forgot
cosmic crest
She's 60
And no, she isn't a super soldier.
The Soldier Enhancement Program was America's response to the omnic crisis, and Ana is Egyptian.
craggy goblet
yeah ana is just an amazing sniper
the only confirmed super soldiers are reaper and soldier
limpid agate
@next imp Its just a targetting array, its nothing special.
finite urchin
I’m just wondering how long Soldier 76s tactical visor actually Lasts
I can tell you!!!
around 8 seconds
If you see clearly in the "heroes" cinematic
when he first activates tac visor, it's fully charged
but
you can see the ult duration circle in the middle of the tac visor in the cinematic
meaning that the ingame ult duration circle is actually canon
anyway
it's fully charged when he activates it the first time
but after 2 seconds of slow mo, you can see a quarter of the circle disappear
in the old soldiers comic, you can also see the ult duration circle
so that answers your question
@next imp
peak escarp
it lasts as long as the plot needs it to
finite urchin
it lasts as long as the plot needs it to
Ur right about that, soldier can pretty much clean everyone up in 8 seconds
peak escarp
finite urchin
<:pharaheyeroll:532411545133645844>
What’s the eyeroll for?
peak escarp
don't ping me, I'm right here
limpid agate
@finite urchin No not speead misinformation
finite urchin
No not speead
limpid agate
Your 8 seconds fact is not a fact
finite urchin
Why can you see the ult circle in the cinematic?
finite urchin
Your 8 seconds fact is not a fact
Never said exactly 8 seconds either, i acknowledged that, i said around 8 sec
Then answer me, why can you see the ult circle in the cinematic
limpid agate
Same reason you don't see it in the comic
finite urchin
You dont?
Lemme see
What, are you crapping me you do see it
That’s exactly why im arguing this point
If it didnt show up in the comics
I woulda conceded already
But it does show in the conics
Comics
The ult circle charge
limpid agate
And your reason to believe is a timer is what
finite urchin
What is it for then?
Isn’t it totally valid and human and logical to assume it’s a timer
That’s just pulling at strings now
limpid agate
No, because that would mean its a less than worthless piece of gear
A targetting matrix that works for only 8 seconds?
That's ridiculous
finite urchin
Like party magician said, that’s more than enough time for him
finite urchin
What does that have to do with anything
That means he doesn’t need more time
8 seconds is enough
limpid agate
The story development team takes the UI for these things from game so that the viewer can easily recognize what it is, visually
finite urchin
Still, i doubt theyd ever introduce anything that would actually effect the canon abilities of someone
limpid agate
So the notion that it's a timer is daft
Especially as the circle doesn't progress in the comic
finite urchin
But if we’re also arguing that they make it so that it’s recognizable to ppl playing the game
finite urchin
Then that means the circle is actually there to mimic the timer
limpid agate
Yes, it's mimicking what the players see as a timer
Look at high noon
McCree can't summon a tumbleweed
finite urchin
So you already have two conflicting sources for that theory
Actually ur wrong about that too
limpid agate
But they had one in the short
finite urchin
The timer isnt even static in rhe comic
It’s really, really hard to see
But when he activates it in the panel from the looming perspective
Overshadowing the guy he hit with a rifle
The timer is full
The next panel
Shows the timer half gone
limpid agate
Sigh, 1 sec
finite urchin
:)
limpid agate
Image number 1 - The circle appears to turn yellow from white as time passes, similar to in game. Each diamond is filled over ~1/8th of the circle's progressions.
Image number 2 - The circle has 0 fill at all from the rear side, its a pure white circle. There are also 0 diamonds visible in it.
Image number 3 - The circle is significantly larger, and is 3/4s white, 1/4 nothing.
Image number 4 - The circle is less than half white, with the rest as blank space.
Image number 5 - The circle is in the exact same position as before but mirrored, except now there is suddenly a diamond in sight, as well as a compass. There was not a 1/8th circle progression for the diamond to appear
Also on that 5th one, its the only one of the 5 pictures to feature the compass, something not even visible in game. It also has a line attatching the target to the core.
Through this, we can determine absolutely nothing about how the UI works
Its inconsistent even throughout the exact same piece of lore, let alone across different ones.
finite urchin
It’s inconsistent
limpid agate
There is just as much proof to say its a timer as there is to say its the battery.
finite urchin
Honestly, I think it’s insane to call it a battery, i think it’s more of a cooldown thing
limpid agate
Ive had a phone that, every time you turn it on, the battery starts at 100% then rapidly decreases until it gets to the actual %.
finite urchin
Where he can use it for 8 sec before waiting to use it again
That’s…a weird phine
Phone
What model
limpid agate
Not one of these sources support the theory you are proposing
That its a cooldown representation
Because its never visible when its off
finite urchin
That its a cooldown representation
Headcanon just adding on
You know what
I’ll get back to this
But i have to work on my chem honors homework
worthy rose
I don’t know why this didn’t get enough attention but it clearly hints at a new hero https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/correspondence-post-for-toshiro-yamagami/
It’s back from when Kanezaka came out
But wonder who it could be. there’s three different characters in this “teaser” that it could be hinting at
peak escarp
it got a lot of attention when it came out
it matches up with one of the four silhouettes Game Informer saw back in 2019 when OW2 was announced - there was a female hero with a 4-bladed weapon and a fox-like pet
now we get a hint about the Yamagami, a family of swordsmiths/sword masters who have ties to the fox shrine in Kanezaka
I think it's most likely to be Asa Yamagami, the woman who was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster
peak escarp
a support that uses a sword would be interesting
worthy rose
And hopefully the entire thing is explained better in the story mode
peak escarp
better explained?
worthy rose
Yeah, Hanzo’s storyline I mean
I’m a bit confused on the lore surrounding him and that town
peak escarp
the town is next to the castle where Hanzo lived
visual gust
I'm surprised Zenyatta and Widowmaker don't have any interactions together
limpid agate
@worthy rose Based on prior patterns, we probably went hear about that again until BlizzCon the earliest
These map based teasers usually only come to fruition about a year after their debut
Sombra, Moira, and Hammond are the best examples of this, debuting one year after they were first teased
austere steeple
its gonna be a dps because thats all blizzard wants to make
peak escarp
they've made the same number of supports as damage heroes since launch, and only one less tank
they've been making all classes of hero equally
limpid agate
Including Echo, we have gone from 6-7-5-3 to 9-8-8-7
They've added more support heroes than anything else
That's including the defence category that lasted up until they added the first defence hero in Ashe.
long temple
a support that uses a sword would be interesting
brig with dragonblade 
next imp
Woof
Think about it like food.
Tanks are salt
Dps protein
Healers are barely
Healthy
azure locust
how are tanks salt lmao
iron plume
This is definitely not a lore discussion
azure locust
sorry :c
austere steeple
so i know orb of discord and harmony are non canon, but is zenyatta flinging orbs into heads canon?
peak escarp
he does have metal orbs (they're for meditation), and he is known to defend himself if necessary
so it's plausible that he might use the orb as a weapon
worthy rose
its gonna be a dps because thats all blizzard wants to make
I expect only one DPS
Sojourn
I mean they’ll only be adding a couple of heroes to my understanding
compact cobalt
Hopefully blizzard only adds one or two dps because rn the support meta is stale asf
worthy rose
Sojourn is already confirmed as a DPS
So yeah I don’t expect more than her
If they do I’ll just be disappointed
peak escarp
!!shitposting @mighty vigil
twilit nacelleBOT
@mighty vigil Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
peak escarp
So yeah I don’t expect more than her
I expect an equal number of each role, but that's straying away from lore
limpid agate
Of the potential heroes so far
Junkerqueen is a gladitorial mech champion.
Mauga is a heavy assault unit
Asa Yamagami is a sword master, and her daughter presumably would have picked up her craft.
Based on existing heroes, I would guess those 3 are tank/tank/dps
If you want to talk about new heroes and their gameplay roles, at least keep it related to the lore.
For example: Mauga being based on the heavy assaults, the Talon Tank units, as well as originally being the concept for the first Talon Tank, make it extremely likely that he will be a tank.
peak escarp
my argument for Yamagami (mother or daughter) being support comes from their family being the caretakers of the Fox shrine (miko-type characters typically fill support roles)
and if the daughter is one of the vigilantes like the community speculates, she would have the same sort of protector role in her community that Lucio has
JunkerQueen's origin definitely jives with the "brawler" style of tanks they're leaning towards
and Mauga is literally a Talon Heavy
worthy rose
Based on existing heroes, I would guess those 3 are tank/tank/dps
Agree with the first two, but the Japanese hero should be a support based on the last part of the letter released with Kanezaka
“I will close on the lighter note that I promised and say that I know if you were here you would remind me, ‘The kitsune can change your luck with a flick of even one of her tails.’ May she flick all nine of them and send some much-needed good fortune our way.”
I assume the flick of the tail implies something to do with healing
And the flick of the 9 tails pretty clearly hints at it being an ultimate ability
Also, considering the order in which heroes have been released (Support-Tank-DPS) I assume her to be up next and I would go as far as saying she might be released before OW2
peak escarp
And the flick of the 9 tails pretty clearly hints at it being an ultimate abilit...
it could just be flavour text
worthy rose
Maybe
peak escarp
also there isn't a pattern in the roles released
support - [offense] - tank - [offense] - support - support - tank - [defense] - support - tank - damage
they have also confirmed that we will not be getting any more heroes before OW2
worthy rose
Sadge
peak escarp
anything being worked on now is being made using the new engine, and it would be a waste of resources to backport a new hero
limpid agate
miko-type characters typically fill support roles
I can think of more examples of the opposite
Than examples of supportive mikos
And the only supportive example I can think of is Fire Emblem
mighty vigil
tracer is lesbian
peak escarp
yes, and?
earnest gazelle
I'm honestly excited for a character like Mauga. Since there's usually an origin story released alongside a new character. Possibly some more insight into him.
peak escarp
I'm really curious about Yamagami
her background could give us more insight into what life was like for Genji and Hanzo growing up (if it's the mother, she was their teacher; if it's the daughter, she's probably around their age and might have been friends with them)
earnest gazelle
Yeah
Then possible in-game interactions between genji and hanzo
If they still have those in overwatch 2
Like with her with the two
worthy rose
@limpid agate Good observation but I still think that the luck line hints at some sort of ability
Beyond that, it’s anyone’s guess what it could be and what role she could belong to
It could very well be a team-based ability that doesn’t have anything to do with healing
limpid agate
<@!195671081065906176> Good observation but I still think that the luck line hin...
In case there is any confusion
The Kitsune isn't real
And even if it was, Yamagami isn't the Kitsune
austere steeple
mechanically, im going to guess either damage resistance or autocrit damage
to represent luck
mighty vigil
I'm honestly excited for a character like Mauga. Since there's usually an origin...
who tf is mauga? their adding a second character alongside sojourn with ow2 release?
peak escarp
Mauga is Baptiste's friend from "What You Left Behind"
mighty vigil
and who tf is yamataki
peak escarp
Yamagami is from the letter that came out as a teaser for Kanezaka
mighty vigil
oh
peak escarp
you can find all the lore in the pins
mighty vigil
genhis sister?
peak escarp
no
mighty vigil
genji*
amber fable
Light yagami?
mighty vigil
tracers brother?
peak escarp
Asa Yamagami was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster
amber fable
tats zenyarta
peak escarp
she taught them swordfighting when they were kids
amber fable
zenyata taught genjo
peak escarp
Zenyatta came much later
amber fable
Oh
peak escarp
after Genji left Overwatch
amber fable
who "killed" genji
peak escarp
Hanzo
mighty vigil
zenyatta walked in i think an ow2 development stream
peak escarp
why did they fight
Upon the death of his father, the clan elders instructed Hanzo to straighten out his wayward younger brother so that he, too, might help rule the Shimada empire. When his brother refused, Hanzo was forced to kill him. This act broke Hanzo's heart and drove him to reject his father's legacy, ultimately leading him to abandon the clan and all that he had worked so hard to attain.
peak escarp
Following the clan leader's untimely death, Genji's older brother, Hanzo, demanded that Genji take a more active role in their late father's empire. Genji refused, enraging Hanzo. The tension between the brothers built to a violent confrontation that left Genji on the verge of dying.
amber fable
dayum
mighty vigil
is there any hero who has kids other than ana since i know she had pharah and torb and brig
peak escarp
Ana has Pharah
Torb has Brig and other children
Reyes had a family (details unknown)
earnest gazelle
I don't think released along with sojourn, though it is a possibility
mighty vigil
anyone else think the ow storyline should be a movies series so heros origin story (before joining their group so like OW, talon, blackwatch etc and after (if they did) left ow) and then a main story line on how ow was formed and loads of story that we havent had yet
including their family life for certain heros
peak escarp
all of the post-launch heroes have origin trailers
plus Tracer and Soldier
it would be nice to get those for the other 19 heroes
mighty vigil
plus Tracer and Soldier
tracer was a pilot right and she tried making a teleporter or time travel thing for an aircraft but it went wrong and then winston made the thing on her titties right?
peak escarp
mighty vigil
wait so why tf is widow blue ive never actually asked this
peak escarp
She was given extensive training in the covert arts, and then her physiology was altered, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue and numbed her ability to experience human emotion. Amélie was gone.
mighty vigil
```She was given extensive training in the covert arts, and then her physiology ...
ooo
what about hammond im curious on how a hamster got himself an oversized ball
peak escarp
mighty vigil
ah
so thats where people got the name hammond from
what made widow obsessed with spiders? i think its in the story where she is fighting tracer while trying to kill zenyattas look alike (who is he btw)
peak escarp
the "Zenyatta look alike" is Mondatta, leader of the Shambali
mighty vigil
the "Zenyatta look alike" is Mondatta, leader of the Shambali
whats the shambali? is that a group of zenyatta look alikes?
peak escarp
they're a religious order that believes omnics have souls
mighty vigil
ah
peak escarp
Zenyatta was one of them, but he disagreed with their methods so he left on a pilgrimage
peak escarp
after he left is when he found Genji and helped him find inner peace
mighty vigil
how did genji meet zenyatta?
peak escarp
But as time passed, Genji felt increasingly at war with himself. He was repulsed by the mechanical parts of his body and could not come to grips with what he had become. When his mission was complete, he abandoned Overwatch and wandered the world in search of meaning. He drifted for many years before crossing paths with the omnic monk Zenyatta. Though Genji initially rejected Zenyatta's wisdom, the benevolent omnic would not be deterred. In time, Zenyatta became his mentor, and under the monk's tutelage, Genji reconciled his dual existence as both man and machine. He learned to accept that although he had a cyborg body, his human soul was intact, and he came to see his new form as a gift and a unique strength.
mighty vigil
ah
sorry if im asking alot of questions i want to learn more about the heros and their story line
peak escarp
the best way to learn is to read the hero bios and watch the shorts
you can find links to them in the pins
peak escarp
she might be
mighty vigil
ah
peak escarp
Alejandra (the little girl) is the one who gave Zarya Sombra's real name - it's speculated that Alejandra knew her name because Sombra is a friend
mighty vigil
where does this info come from?
peak escarp
(dotted lines on the relationship map represent theorized relationships)
peak escarp
there's a lot of flirting between them in voice lines
mighty vigil
ah
mighty vigil
ah
i get it
and did the woman that sombra, widow and reaper were trying to get in that one mission ask zarya to help her with sombra?
peak escarp
Reinhardt is Brigitte's godfather
compact cobalt
Zarya has already had character development, we will most likely see even more
If she joins overwatch in ow2
peak escarp
she was a white knight for Volskaya - Sombra's information changed Zarya's thoughts on her
compact cobalt
^
I’d imagine if she did join overwatch it would be because she doesn’t want to be a tool
peak escarp
but Moira being a major catalyst for the fall of Overwatch isn't because of her personality
it's because of her actions
upbeat pagoda
How do you guys think mcree lost his arm after blackwatch?
peak escarp
I used to think he ran afoul of another gang, but that's probably not it
knowing him, he was probably trying to save someone and ended up losing his arm
upbeat pagoda
There's some stuff I read on the internet which said junkrat and Cree got arrested together and junkrat used explosives to destroy their handcuffs which is why both of them are missing an arm
Seems unlikely tho
Also some stuff about genji cutting it off during blackwatch?
peak escarp
he lost it after Blackwatch, so that's not it
and McCree has never met Junkrat, that's just fanfiction
people like to make up answers for things - don't trust anything unless it comes from an official source
stuck oyster
So, which is more recent in the lore timeline? The Zero Hour animated short, or the prologue to Storm Rising?
peak escarp
Zero Hour
the prologue to Storm Rising happened 6 years ago
rough timeline of the last 15 years:
-15: Mercy joins Overwatch
-12: Hanzo almost kills Genji, Genji is saved by Overwatch
-9: Ecopoint Antarctica is hit by a polar storm, Mei's team goes into cryostasis
-8: Retribution
-7: Uprising
-6: Storm Rising/Ana goes MIA/Jack and Gabe fight and blow up the HQ
-5: Overwatch disbanded
0: Recall
+1: Zero Hour
limpid agate
The prologue to Storm Rising is implied to be 6 years ago
stuck oyster
Okay, but as far as the player base is concerned, we still don't know the events of what happened with Maximilian, his contact, as well as Doomfist and the mysterious Omnic?
Maximilian seems to be an opportunist, so I can assume he's still cooperating with his captors long after Overwatch has disbanded. I'm very curious as to what he's been up to since the Storm Rising prologue.
limpid agate
Why would that be any time soon
And it was not just implied. The devs stated as much later.
Okay, but as far as the player base is concerned, we still don't know the events of what happened with Maximilian, his contact, as well as Doomfist and the mysterious Omnic?
What do you mean by this?
Max and his contact?
The timeline is:
- Storm Rising
- Max gives up Doomfist
- Doomfist Origins flashback
- 6 years pass since he is in jail
- Masquerade
stuck oyster
So where in the timeline does Doomfist meeting with that mysterious Omnic in Anubis fit with the rest of the story?
peak escarp
three weeks later, Genji, Tracer and Winston fight and capture Doomfist
limpid agate
... 6 years ago
Wait
When you said prologue
Did you mean epilogue? Because that's what I meant
THe prologue was obviously 6 years ago. Its imemdiately before Storm RIsing, which was also 6 years ago
Like, minutes before
peak escarp
Doomfist meeting with the mysterious omnic happens at the same time Maximilien is captured by Overwatch
I would assume that Maximilien is released shortly after his interrogation
stuck oyster
I personally doubt that someone like Max would be released, especially after working with an organization like Talon
peak escarp
peak escarp
I personally doubt that someone like Max would be released, especially after wor...
he's free as of Masquerade, which is after Recall in the present day
stuck oyster
I assume even after Overwatch is gone, he would be taken custody by somebody other than OW.
peak escarp
he's operating his own casino
limpid agate
He was free 6 years ago too.
peak escarp
Maximilien isn't a high priority target
peak escarp
he's kinda just the money guy for Talon, not one of the decision makers
stuck oyster
Brings me back to when people theorized that Max would be a new hero
When there were such things as new heroes
stuck oyster
there will be new heroes in OW2
yeah, and ow2 will release, sure
compact cobalt
Will this dude be a hero?
stuck oyster
CHONKY shoulders
peak escarp
could be a brawler type
we'll definitely learn more about him though - he seems to represent Null Sector
limpid agate
> there will be new heroes in OW2
yeah, and ow2 will release, sure
Are you just snarking for the sake of snarking
Or do you have something constructive to add to the conversation?
compact cobalt
No no he’s got a point
limpid agate
No, he doesn't.
crisp hearth
Why does mei cry when Moira says she’s interesting In her work
limpid agate
Because that's not what Moira asks
Moira: Dr. Zhou. I'm interested in your colleagues' research into the long term effects of cryogenic freezing.
Mei: Well... yes... I'm sure... m-maybe... *soft crying*
How much of Genjis body is machine/ technology and how much of it is actually human? And would this ratio be the same for his black watch skin, as he seems to cover up much less in his black watch suit, revealing more human looking parts.
desert yacht
it would be nice to get those for the other 19 heroes
a zen origin story would be really cool yeah, all we know about his backstory is that he disagreed with the way the other shambali taught and went on a pilgrimmage to retrace the steps of aurora
probably the character we have the least backstory for
well maybe that's not true
limpid agate
How much of Genjis body is machine/ technology and how much of it is actually hu...
Blackwatch skin more or less gives the answer.
desert yacht
i don't think we have that much for sym
desert yacht
i haven't looked at her lore in years so maybe i'm just missing something
limpid agate
The exact same piece of Zen lore you mentioned is one
desert yacht
we have a lot about sym's past?
i more meant what she was doing before she got where she is
because every other hero has basically a summary of most of their life
limpid agate
There's also her comic, and her bio is more thorough than most
violet fractal
Where does sym stand for in the overwatch world? She doesn’t seem to be a full protagonist with overwatch, but not a straight antagonist like with Talon members.
desert yacht
she seems open minded
desert yacht
in her interaction with sombra she shows that she doesn't have blind faith in vishkar
desert yacht
good person in a bad situation
being taken advantage of and all that stuff
alright nevermind we do have a lot for sym's backstory
grew up in poverty, danced to take her mind off of her situation, picked straight from poverty by vishkar when they saw her potential
desert yacht
Where does sym stand for in the overwatch world? She doesn’t seem to be a full p...
good person being used by a bad person
weird how there's no lore for how sym lost her arm
like it's almost never even mentioned
at least mccree's is recognized by some characters
actually i don't know that for sure as i haven't read sym's comic in a while
worn island
No Sym has both arms
oop wait maybe she doesnt
are her vishkar skins meant to represent her at a younger age? or are they her normal uniform outside of battle?
lilac ibex
Idk one of her skins has her normal arm
Instead of the robot one
But we def need more sym lore
peak escarp
Symmetra does have a prosthetic arm
peak escarp
heroes with prosthetics are Doomfist, Genji, Junkrat, McCree, Symmetra and Torbjorn
Ana used to have a cybernetic eye but it was destroyed when Widowmaker shot her, and Sombra has a computer implanted into her spine
toxic sinew
Ana used to have a cybernetic eye but it was destroyed when Widowmaker shot her,...
if she used to have a cyber eye why didnt she replace it
peak escarp
because it's a reminder of what she lost
toxic sinew
Ana used to have a cybernetic eye but it was destroyed when Widowmaker shot her,...
? sombra had a computer implanted in who?
toxic sinew
why
peak escarp
so she can't be hacked
toxic sinew
how does the hacking thing work
peak escarp
and to take herself off the internet
toxic sinew
what does hacking do and how
peak escarp
I don't know how hacking works
but she can take control of computer systems
and access restricted information
in Hero of Numbani she uses it to access omnics' private networks and corrupt their programming
violet fractal
How did mcree leave the deadlock gang? Was he caught in some sort of illegal activity with them and joined blackwatch as bail, or did he just willingly walk away from their organization?
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/mccree#story
limpid agate
when he and his associates were busted in an Overwatch sting operation. With his expert marksmanship and resourcefulness, he was given the choice between rotting in a maximum-security lockup and joining Blackwatch, Overwatch's covert ops division. He chose the latter.
toxic sinew
```when he and his associates were busted in an Overwatch sting operation. With ...
Was Ashe caught
iron plume
We don't know but it's unlikely
before the book came out some theorized that she was and her parents bailed her out, but now it's... probably not that
pliant sparrow
What caused doom to lose his arm?
limpid agate
He lost it in the aftermath of the omnic crisis.
cosmic crest
He lost it in the aftermath of the omnic crisis.
Uh... not really, he still had both arms during Uprising.
limpid agate
No, he didn't.
limpid agate
But when he lost his right arm in the aftermath of the Omnic Crisis, it seemed his martial arts career was finished before he had reached his prime.
This is from his bio
cosmic crest
idk then
limpid agate
Also, what do you mean you're looking at his panel in that comic
cosmic crest
Maybe it's an error? Or when they say "aftermath" they are being incredibly vague and mean years after the crisis ended
iron plume
Which panel do you mean
limpid agate
Doomfist isnt in that comic
iron plume
that's why I asked
cosmic crest
I'm stupid
limpid agate
Yeah I asked too
limpid agate
McCree lost his arm after leaving Overwatch
iron plume
okay that explains it
cosmic crest
I'm more used to seeing people ask about McCree's arm over Doomfist's and I made a wrongful assumption without scrolling up.
severe folio
i really want more info abt ashe and mccree in the future
cosmic crest
Have you read the novel?
peak escarp
we'll definitely get more about McCree in the future
peak escarp
Ashe, maybe not
austere steeple
when is zenyatta going to do anything in the story?
crisp hearth
What does talon want with zen
peak escarp
we don't know yet
craggy goblet
What does talon want with zen
maybe it's the same situation as in king's row with mondatta
toxic sinew
What made mondatta so important
peak escarp
he was the leader of the Shambali
and was pushing for equality between humans and omnics
Talon killed him to spark conflict between them
peak escarp
the Shambali are a religious order that believes omnics have a soul
Zenyatta was one of their members until he left to travel the world
toxic sinew
Zenyatta was one of their members until he left to travel the world
Why
peak escarp
But one monk, Zenyatta, disagreed with this new direction. He believed that the way to repair the problems between humans and omnics was not through dogmatic teaching but through interpersonal connection and engagement.```Ultimately, Zenyatta followed his own path. He chose to leave the monastery and wander the world, helping those he meets to overcome their personal struggles and find inner peace. But, when necessary, he will fight to protect the innocent, be they omnic or human.
toxic sinew
So he mentored people ?
peak escarp
yes
toxic sinew
Who has he mentored other than genji
toxic sinew
Hm ok
paper gust
Is there any bastion lore
peak escarp
!!loreheroes Bastion
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/Bastion#story
visual gust
He's got robot PTSD
austere steeple
and hes homies with torbjorn
peak escarp
more people need to read the hero bios
there's a lot of basic information there that should be common knowledge
the hero bios should be in the game, in the hero gallery
compact cobalt
So can zenyatta actually stand?
Or is it just because the cutscene isn’t finished
compact cobalt
100%
compact cobalt
I wonder how long story mode will be
If I had to guess prob 8-10 hours on a normal play through
Just judging from other campaigns I’ve played
crisp hearth
It would be cool if there is dlc side missions of hero’s who didn’t appear in the main story mode
toxic sinew
Same
peak escarp
it's likely there will be additional content post-launch
pastel dust
My guess is that OW2 is going to become the main game, like TF2, and they'll just stick with that forever, adding content updates and DLC stuff and they won't make anymore sequels.
limpid agate
My guess is that OW2 is going to become the main game, like TF2, and they'll jus...
This isnt even remotely similar to TF2 vs TFC
crisp hearth
My guess is that OW2 is going to become the main game, like TF2, and they'll jus...
OW1 won’t exist anymore when OW2 drops
pastel dust
That's not what I meant. I meant that the sequel will continue on as basically the main game. That's the only comparison I was making.
crisp hearth
Yea but you made it sound like there was another game blizzard won’t update anymore
limpid agate
TF2 isn't a sequel
Team Fortress was a Quake mod
TFC was that Quake mod ported to the half-life engine
TF2 was a different game they made like 11 years later
pastel dust
Was it? I just assumed because there was a 2 there was a first game
limpid agate
Yes