#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 609

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Who is that to the right of genji?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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it might be a temporary alliance, to deal with the Null Sector threat

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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worthy rose Who is that to the right of genji?

Baptiste

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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I see now

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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we don't know if it's a permanent join

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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peak escarp it might be a temporary alliance, to deal with the Null Sector threat

Yeah, a neutral agreemenet

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I'm sure Zarya would like to stay as far away from OW as possible

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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We don't know the semantics of joining Overwatch or not.

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BUT

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There is one thing worth mentioning

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Searching happened.

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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I don't think she would

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Yeah if she had a choice she wouldn't join

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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As bad as it was, Searching did still happen.

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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slender crypt I'm sure Zarya would like to stay as far away from OW as possible

she would have her reservations about them, but she could change her mind once she sees them in action

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Zarya isn't really against overwatch

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Bastion's joining Overwatch, correct?

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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She just thinks Russia doesn't need them

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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there was a small clip of bastion and rein meeting, almost tearing eachother apart but pausing to look at one another. i found that pretty interesting

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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So Zarya in the present:

Trusts exactly Lynx (not totally xenophobic)
Distrusts Volskaya (the face and hero of the Russians against the Omnics)

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:02 AM

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worn island May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Bastions chilling with Torb yes?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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worthy rose there was a small clip of bastion and rein meeting, almost tearing eachother apa...

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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that one!

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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By the extension of that, Zarya in the present (which is also after that voiceline posted by Doc) may doubt the anti-Overwatch sentiments of Russia as well.

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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worn island Bastions chilling with Torb yes?

He was the one that upgraded his armor

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basically upgrading everything in his kit

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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and gave him the hat :)

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or bastion liked it and took it

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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bastion cap bastion cap

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:03 AM

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worn island Bastions chilling with Torb yes?

Yes. If I'm not mistaken, we were told that Bastion would be joining Overwatch in Torb's place, and the concept art from Blizzconline supported that.

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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interesting

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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tbh that's pretty much how I expected Reinhardt and Bastion's first meeting to go

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Reinhardt going on the attack, Bastion being afraid

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Zarya would probably work with Overwatch in two scenarios that I see

Something happens in Russia that makes them need OW (possibly disgrace and/or defeat of Volskaya
Zarya seeing that the new crisis is bigger than her country and so the solution must be too

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Does Reinhardt suffer from PTSD? I'm assuming that's why he'd go after him at the start

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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what kind of mission thingy was that thing where Brig and torb were at ilios?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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slender crypt Does Reinhardt suffer from PTSD? I'm assuming that's why he'd go after him at th...

he's definitely traumatized

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:04 AM

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rein did spend a long time fighting bastion units and the like but maybe he notices that this one is different

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, Bastion didn't immediately shoot him

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he was trying to defend himself

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and that's what stopped Rein

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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worn island what kind of mission thingy was that thing where Brig and torb were at ilios?

That was a hero mission. Not story related.

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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"PTSD" is thrown around a bit liberally, and I'd say it's not why Rein did that

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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kk

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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we saw a little more of that scene in storyboard format - Torbjorn shows up and (I assume) explains everything

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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That's just PvE quick play

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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iron plume "PTSD" is thrown around a bit liberally, and I'd say it's not why Rein did that

I could only guess from what happened during that cutscene

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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Reinhardt has never seen Bastion units that didn't start pummeling lead into him or his friends

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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someone with PTSD is more likely to run away from their trigger than run towards it

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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So he assumes this one would too

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That's pretty much all there is to it

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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think Tony Stark in IM3

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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I mean Rein does have some kind of mental something going on right? with the dragons and stuff

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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As soon as Rein saw Bastion wasn't going to immediately shoot him, he stopped in his tracks

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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do you think rein would notice that Orisa is different to the OR-15 bots?

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:06 AM

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worthy rose do you think rein would notice that Orisa is different to the OR-15 bots?

Probably

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Orisa's pretty famous at this point so yes

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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or similar encounter to bastion

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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I think Orisa looks different enough from the OR14s that it wouldn't even provoke a reaction from Reinhardt

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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and that too

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Orisa is just built different

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literally

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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similar shape, one took his eye

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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People around the world know about the OR-15 looking friendly Numbani robot

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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would Rein actually know about them?

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:07 AM

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No one but Torb knows about the friendly bastion

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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worn island would Rein actually know about them?

Yes, he fought them before I believe

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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no he fought or14s not or15s

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Yeah he fought 14s
Though they look pretty similar

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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in uprising (?)

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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in both uprising and the Crisis

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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I'm sure he would've crossed an or15 at some point with his time in Overwatch

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Im sure he would be wary of fourlegged shooty robots

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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OR15s were just in Numbani, afaik

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:08 AM

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They're featured in Honor and Glory

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They were just in numbani and post-overwatch

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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peak escarp OR15s were just in Numbani, afaik

Ah, makes things more clear, considering Efi built them

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well... some of them

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Efi didn't build the 15s

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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how long were the or15s protecting numbani?

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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She just built the orisa

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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just Orisa

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I'd assume she'd build more Orisa's, or atleast similiar to defend Numbani while she joins OW

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I thought Efi only built orisa from scraps of what Doomfist did the the area's bots

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Originally put into service before the Omnic Crisis, the OR14 "Idina" line of security robots was built in Nigeria's massive manufacturing omnium. After the war, they were taken out of production, along with many of the other models used during the crisis. Twenty years later, Numbani revived and recommissioned the OR14 program to protect the city from external threats. These new OR15s were deployed for a short time before they were destroyed in an attack by Doomfist.

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Efi hasn't joined yet

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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ooo interesting

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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iron plume Efi hasn't joined yet

Isn't it confirmed that she will be tho?

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or is she just gonna stay in Numbani

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Orisa is built specifically from the OR15 that Doomfist smashed into the wall

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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So the or15s probably weren't around long enough that reinhardt was aware of them?

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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slender crypt or is she just gonna stay in Numbani

We don't know

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:10 AM

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this one

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:11 AM

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I want her to join OW though, she could be the Torbjorn replacement

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:11 AM

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But I don't think she'll make multiple Orisas either way

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Orisa is the "person" as much as the model

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Even if there's similar designs they won't be "orisa"

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Efi ran behind the omnic, following on his heels as he took them to a storage room. In the corner, there were several battered OR15s stripped down to their chassis with all of the weaponry removed. If Efi wanted a challenge, that’s what she was getting. One of the robots caught her eyes. The missing front legs, the way the arms were broken off … Efi was sure that it was the robot Doomfist had slammed into the wall at the airport. She bit her lip. It was in worse shape than the others, but something gripped her as she stared at all that mangled metal. This robot. This was the one she wanted.

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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worn island So the or15s probably weren't around long enough that reinhardt was aware of the...

Not around long enough to fight alongside or against them anyway

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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so the concept of a friendly four legged horse looking omnic is new to him

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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He might be aware of them, the news of the attacks made world headlines after all

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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I've noticed that a lot of payload maps (if not all) have a lore-based item on the payload like an EMP for king's row and the gold/bombs in junkertown.. whats the Numbani item?

worn island May 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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probably actually

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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doomfist gauntlet or orisa bongo? i forget

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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And so did the news of Orisa

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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I think it's the Gauntlet

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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it was the Doomfist gauntlet, before Orisa was released

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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I'd be surprised if Rein doesn't know at all

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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now it's just a generic container

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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ooh it was updated after orisa

iron plume May 15, 2021, 2:13 AM

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The Echo pod on 66 is empty now too

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I liked that changed

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change*

hazy kiln May 15, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Numbani was originally Doomfist gauntlet until his release.

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Route 66 was originally Echos chamber until her release.

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:15 AM

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that reminds me - there are some small statue things laying down of what looks to be Echo in the Temple of Anubis map.. were they always there?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:15 AM

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yes

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:15 AM

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interesting

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:16 AM

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worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:16 AM

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mhm those

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:16 AM

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remember, Echo (known as Iris early on) has been in concept art since the beginning

slender crypt May 15, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Echo was an original design I believe

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:17 AM

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was there a line of this type of bot or is echo unique from dr liao?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:17 AM

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also Lenora Bortuvio has the same body type, so it may just be a different chassis design that you can buy for building robots

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worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:18 AM

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that pic above of roster concept art has sparked a question which has always been a mystery to me

hazy kiln May 15, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I definitely think it’s a chassis design. You can see the dark robot with similar design behind Winston

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Roadhog. Pig-man hybrid thing or just a nickname junkrat gives him?

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"pig-face"

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his wanted poster looks very pig-like and you'd assume mask would be off for that photo

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:20 AM

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hazy kiln May 15, 2021, 2:21 AM

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I’d wager it was a name given based upon his design and a throwback to mad max.

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:21 AM

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worthy rose his wanted poster looks very pig-like and you'd assume mask would be off for tha...

not if he threatened violence when they asked/told him to take it off

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the pig-face thing is based on bad descriptions of his mask

hazy kiln May 15, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I think that image is off a bit.

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I guess he runs along with it? "Say bacon one more time." as if offended

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:22 AM

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hazy kiln I think that image is off a bit.

which one?

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:23 AM

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the Rein looks a lot like the Heavy from talon soldiers

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:23 AM

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the proto-Reinhardt is called Wildebeest

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worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:24 AM

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oohh i need to get that art book

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:24 AM

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the concept of a heavily-armored shield carrier became Reinhardt
the concept of a hero designed based on African iconography became Orisa
the concept of a hero who weilds a mace became Brigitte

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so Wildebeest has been reused several times

hazy kiln May 15, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Rein, Pharah, widow. There’s certainly inspirations for future heroes but I wouldn’t call it canon.

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Just IMO

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:26 AM

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is there reason the talon assassin can blink similar to tracer?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Reinhardt

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Pharah

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Widowmaker

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all confirmed concept designs from the artbook

worthy rose May 15, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I see the pointy-head has been to many characters

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finalised on echo

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:52 AM

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so what is difference between a omnic and a robot

topaz ledge May 15, 2021, 9:23 AM

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broken imp so what is difference between a omnic and a robot

i think an omnic has A.I and a robot doesn't

broken imp May 15, 2021, 9:36 AM

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but echo seems to have personality

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she talks and can respond on her own so she most have an ai

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 9:36 AM

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kagurapointL

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Immediately below the message you mentioned

covert echo May 15, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Could 'Omnic' be an encapsulating term like 'Xerox', 'Ziploc', or 'Google it' in the real world where they have brand names but really mean anything like it?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 3:00 PM

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covert echo Could 'Omnic' be an encapsulating term like 'Xerox', 'Ziploc', or 'Google it' in...

that's exactly it

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Omnic is a brand name robot

lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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peak escarp

could the person with the green and purple wings in the backround be junker queen

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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that's Recluse

lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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oh

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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who is recluse

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ohhhhh

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was she changed into anybody

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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like how wildebeest became rein

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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she appeared in some early concept art and had cool spider legs and a mouth laser

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not that we know of

lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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whoa

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maybe could be junker queen mech in furutre?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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but a few of us here hope she does get used (possibly for Junker Queen)

lyric sluice May 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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ya i wanna be a spider + mouth lasers

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also it totally fits the junkertown asthetic

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 6:33 PM

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JQ was a mech champion - she could have had a spider legs mech

arctic loom May 15, 2021, 6:42 PM

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well we will see new maps on day 20 probably only it

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not anymore about lore

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of ow 2

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but i hope we see more about new york map

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 7:17 PM

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I hope they show Rome and talk about it being the Talon HQ

tribal plume May 15, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Same. That's also probably my favorite map they showed off.

broken imp May 15, 2021, 7:53 PM

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peak escarp I hope they show Rome and talk about it being the Talon HQ

isnt Monaco talons HQ

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i might be wrong

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Monaco is where Max is based

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Talon HQ is Rome

broken imp May 15, 2021, 7:57 PM

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ahh

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 7:58 PM

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@peak escarp @broken imp Blackwatch HQ was Rome. Talon HQ is Venice.

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:01 PM

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i tought it was monnaco cause of big mansion but i was wrong

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 8:01 PM

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That's Casino Monaco

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Which is Max's base of operations.

hushed jetty May 15, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Isn't there A Talon Base in rome though

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Not that we've seen.

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:02 PM

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limpid agate <@!207741110838231042> <@!271259290415792129> Blackwatch HQ was Rome. Talon HQ i...

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Mauga mentioned it once though.

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Yeah

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:02 PM

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he says Talon HQ is Rome

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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i wonder if it stays there cause wasnt bap commic along time before recall?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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also it was mentioned during the Rome map reveal

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Was it mentioned in the reveal?

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I have forgotten that.

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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ohh then it is still there

hushed jetty May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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the bap comic takes place right after recall i think

limpid agate May 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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It was at Recall

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Like, days after.

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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i find the ow2 time line so confusing

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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it's 3 days after Recall

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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ow in general i mean

hushed jetty May 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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the ow timeline is a little scuffed yeah

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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for the longest time i tought storm rising was after the recall

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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and that doom assualt on numbadi was after talon broke him out

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so bap is most likely gonna join ow?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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broken imp and that doom assualt on numbadi was after talon broke him out

it was after

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unless you mean Doomfist's origin trailer - that was Singapore, not Numbani

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and that was 6 years ago

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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okay im realy confused now TracerShy

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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the OW timeline is fairly straightforward

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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i probley just mixed it up in my head i should look up the time line

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Doomfist fighting Tracer, Genji and Winston in Singapore was 6 years ago
Doomfist attacking Numbani to get his gauntlet back is present day, after Talon breaks him out of prison

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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and that is before recall right?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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after Recall

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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oh so orisa is made after recalll

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how much time is there between recall and zero hour?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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about a year

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that's not an official timeline, just one I made as best I could - some things might be off

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and it doesn't include everything, just the bits relevant to recall/Talon

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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thank you

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Alive happens before Recall, I just haven't updated it

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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so one last question does hero of numbani have any indication that orisa might join ow?

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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it's hinted at

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at the end ||Orisa mentions going on "a brief sojourn"||

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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cool

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all this lore talk makes me hyped for ow2

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:25 PM

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there will be a lot more to talk about when OW2 gets here

tribal plume May 15, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Yeah, I wonder what this channel will look like then.

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:27 PM

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probably a little busier, but still the same answers

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:29 PM

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I do hope there will be a spoiler policy for the server otherwise I wont look here for a while

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:30 PM

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there probably will be

tribal plume May 15, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Oh, that's true.

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:30 PM

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I marked that Hero of Numbani spoiler, but I probably didnt need to

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it's almost a year old

broken imp May 15, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I think it is always better to spoiler tag something better to be sure then sorry

peak escarp May 15, 2021, 8:37 PM

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yeah

worthy rose May 16, 2021, 1:13 AM

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I remember there being a spreadsheet filled with lore stuff. is that still around to the public? i'd love to look into it

civic tapir May 16, 2021, 1:15 AM

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the pins has a lotta info, might not be exactly what you're looking for, but has some links to stuff

limpid agate May 16, 2021, 1:50 AM

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!!lorelist @worthy rose

twilit nacelleBOT May 16, 2021, 1:50 AM

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loreComics -> List of comics
LondonCalling -> List of Tracer - London Calling issues
loreShorts -> List of shorts
loreTweets -> List of lore related Twitter teasers
loreText -> List of lore text articles
loreHeroes [heroName] -> List of hero bios [Or a specific hero bio]
loreWiki [pageName] -> Link to Overwatch Wiki [or a specific page]
loreOnly [userName] -> A warning so you don't NEED to ping staff

limpid agate May 16, 2021, 1:50 AM

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If there is something you are interested in, its probably in the pins.

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If not, its on the wiki

twilit nacelleBOT May 16, 2021, 1:51 AM

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For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 2:10 AM

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worthy rose I remember there being a spreadsheet filled with lore stuff. is that still aroun...

did you mean this? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BFYjC78shFuhpu4Fm0l99qKQznIc7lPouQaikD5YvkY/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Overwatch Lore Database

Overwatch Lore Database Title Release Date Type Overwatch Cinematic Trailer November 7, 2014 Animated Short Tracer Origin Story November 7, 2014 Origin Story [BREAKING] Strange lights sighted over decommissioned Watchpoint February 16, 2015 Map Teaser [EXCLUSIVE] What caused ...

worthy rose May 16, 2021, 4:14 AM

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yes ty

sullen raptor May 16, 2021, 5:26 AM

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So winston named after his mentor..teacher..lab guy researcher dude?

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(i wonder what would his name be if the guy didnt passed away tho)

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Winston was named after Dr. Harold Winston before he died

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I assume the other specimens were named after other researchers

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jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:38 AM

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what happened to the horizon lunar colony after it was over run by monkeys

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besides them trashing the place

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:39 AM

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the apes are still there

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:39 AM

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dont they have a limited food supply

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and oxygen supply

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:40 AM

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there's potatoes and bananas growing on the base

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and the oxygen is probably recycled

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:40 AM

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oh

sullen raptor May 16, 2021, 5:41 AM

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But man..arent they gonna evacuate the gorillas at least

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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why?

sullen raptor May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Like..they stuck on moon

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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the monkeys are completely fine

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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the apes are happy there

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they hated the scientists

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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and any human that arrives inside the colony will be slaughtered

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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and the tests

sullen raptor May 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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WidowOk

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:50 AM

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are there any crusaders left that are still stationed in germany

slender crypt May 16, 2021, 5:50 AM

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jaunty crown are there any crusaders left that are still stationed in germany

I think they either all got moved or retired, I know a lot of them died during the invasion though

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:53 AM

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so what happened to all the crusader armour that was not damaged during the war

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:54 AM

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put in museums or melted down for scrap

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 5:59 AM

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is reinhardts armour from the ow2 reskin just a modified version of his original crusader armour or is it completely new

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 6:07 AM

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it's rebuilt armor

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you can see 09 on his armor

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his previous armor has 08

topaz ledge May 16, 2021, 8:30 AM

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the numbers represent the amount of designs for Reinhardt there were 7 designs before the one we see in ow 1, and because he gets a new designs in ow 2 the number becomes a 09.

jaunty crown May 16, 2021, 10:10 AM

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how about the lieutenant wilhelm skin (the uprising one)

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and the one from honor and glory

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was the uprising one 07 and the honor and glory one 06?

hollow flax May 16, 2021, 12:04 PM

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Are there Koreans here?

trail sail May 16, 2021, 12:30 PM

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What happened to the other shimada?

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 12:34 PM

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trail sail What happened to the other shimada?

Like...Their dad? He died.

trail sail May 16, 2021, 12:36 PM

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No the one that overwatch sent a tweet on

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 12:37 PM

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trail sail No the one that overwatch sent a tweet on

Could you link me the tweet? I’m confused.

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OH. The Kanezaka fox girl?

trail sail May 16, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Yes

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 12:37 PM

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She isn’t a Shimada.

trail sail May 16, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Oh

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She isnt?

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 12:38 PM

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No, you should read the letter. It gives a lot of information I can’t really site right now.

trail sail May 16, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Oh

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Rip

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Oops

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/correspondence-post-for-toshiro-yamagami/

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Okay there we go

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I believe they were a part of the clan but they aren’t a Shimada as in part of the family/related to Genji and Hanzo.

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:11 PM

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They (meaning this mom most likely) was a swordswoman who trained both Genji and Hanzo in the way of the sword. The dad seems to be a blacksmith that creates said swords

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I believe

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:12 PM

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yes

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:12 PM

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trail sail What happened to the other shimada?

The dad after the fall of the shimada clan (not sojiro, hes gone) was picked up by the hashimotos and now makes blades from them. But it seema to be forced

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:13 PM

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they used to willingly work for the Shimada family, but were pressed into service for the Hashimoto when the Shimada clan was dismantled

trail sail May 16, 2021, 5:13 PM

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So no shimada related characters coming?

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:13 PM

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not blood related, no

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but Asa Yamagami was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:14 PM

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We might get Yamagami content with OW2 tho

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Fox hero and asa

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Asa might be the fox hero

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:15 PM

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I REALLY HOPE SO NGL

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:15 PM

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I hope she is, because I'd like more older female heroes

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and she's probably 40+

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Id put money on her being 50+ even, but who knows

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:16 PM

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hard to say based on what little we know

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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trail sail So no shimada related characters coming?

No shimada content for a while i dont think. Its hard to say cuz they said hammond and Hanzo have no directiona nd Genji seems to be a part of the OW timeline at this point

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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we only have 2 female heroes who are 40+

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Ana and.... mei???

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Moira is 48

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Oh i forgot about moria

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Mei is 31/40

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Smaller detail but i really hope Asa has a different build from the reat of the females as well. Id like another stronger built female in game

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Not quite Zarya but still

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:18 PM

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compared to 7 male heroes who are 40+

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Doomfist, Roadhog, Reaper, Soldier, Torbjorn, Reinhardt and Sigma

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Blizzard has a habit of putting more variety into the males then the females which is kinda disapointing. Like, the abilities and personalities are relatively unique but the ages and body types/model types/face shapes/ etc you get the point
Are all relatively similar

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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it's better than most games, but it could still be better

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Yea true

cosmic crest May 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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I don't really know what you mean.

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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even heroes who look superficially similar (Mercy, Ashe, Widowmaker, Brigitte) do have subtle differences if you compare them closely

cosmic crest May 16, 2021, 5:22 PM

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I wouldn't say they look similar at all.

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Im mostly referring to body and face shapes

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The designs are unique but how theyre built could be varied a lil more

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Theres so much potential for that area

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And i know its so obscure hut i would love to see it

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:23 PM

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they could play with proportions more

cosmic crest May 16, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Zarya, D.Va, Tracer and Mercy all have wildly different body types.

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:23 PM

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peak escarp they could play with proportions more

Exactly

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:23 PM

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yes the art style overall has Heroic Proportions, but there's more variation in the male heroes' proportions than in the female heroes

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:24 PM

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EXACTLY

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And you can twll by both character models and how theyre drawn in comics/scenes

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Theres so much fanart of people like Brig and Pharah have a body closer to zarya and is byilt to be very strong and i lOVE IT but blizzard had their models closer to everyone elses
Brig in the animations arent bad tho

peak escarp May 16, 2021, 5:27 PM

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but there is a good spread of body types and builds

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I just think they could exaggerate more

shy jackal May 16, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Thata true. Its hard to see but its definatly there

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But i agree

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Exaggerated maybe like they did mei zarya? But even then idk if that was exaggerated or just a good job getting the idea across

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Dude this is an SFW sever. Also a lore channel, probably shouldn't shitpost.

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:35 PM

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I want zen to have more lore

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 7:37 PM

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paper halo I want zen to have more lore

Same. Have you read the Stone by Stone short story?

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:43 PM

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No I tried but it wouldn't load on my pc

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 7:44 PM

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paper halo No I tried but it wouldn't load on my pc

Oh, I see. That's annoying.

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Ya

broken imp May 16, 2021, 7:51 PM

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paper halo I want zen to have more lore

he probley gonna have more lore in ow2

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Let's hope so

broken imp May 16, 2021, 7:51 PM

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it already shown he has a story mission related to him

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so im pretty sure he getting more lore

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:53 PM

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That's good

tribal plume May 16, 2021, 7:54 PM

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He's 100% getting more lore. How much, though? Nobody knows.

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Hopefully they don't do the bare minimum

broken imp May 16, 2021, 7:57 PM

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i read that lucio fought doom along side orisa

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is this true

paper halo May 16, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Idk if it's canon, but there was an actual book in which the author told about that fight, yes

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Like a chapter book

iron plume May 16, 2021, 7:59 PM

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It is canon

hushed jetty May 16, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Heroes of Numbani?

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yeah that's canon

iron plume May 16, 2021, 7:59 PM

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the novel is called The Hero of Numbani

broken imp May 16, 2021, 7:59 PM

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ahh

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cool

unreal tartan May 17, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Is the McCree-Ashe novel out yet?

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 4:08 AM

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nope

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June 1st

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there's a preview out of the first chapter

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it's pinned

feral musk May 17, 2021, 4:45 AM

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I wonder if we'll get an Ashe skin for it

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 4:46 AM

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probably not

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there wasn't a skin for the previous novel

feral musk May 17, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I'm guessing it will tackle how Ashe and Jesse met?

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 4:50 AM

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seems like it

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it starts on the morning of Ashe's high school graduation

feral musk May 17, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Wow

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It's hard to believe that Overwatch characters went to school

limpid agate May 17, 2021, 6:46 AM

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Most of them did

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Some even did post-secondary studies

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Mei, Mercy, Moira and Sigma all have Doctorates

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Torbjorn probably has one too (or something similar)

topaz ledge May 17, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Symmetra would probably have gotten a degree in architecture

jaunty crown May 17, 2021, 1:19 PM

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dva is probably a drop out with all does championships going on

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wait did hanzo and genji have an education?

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 1:24 PM

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jaunty crown wait did hanzo and genji have an education?

I don’t see why they wouldn’t have.

jaunty crown May 17, 2021, 1:25 PM

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i mean they have all this ninja training and shit

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and they’re in a clan

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 1:26 PM

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I don’t really think that means they couldn’t have gone to school, but maybe they didn’t. jay3Shrug

jaunty crown May 17, 2021, 1:27 PM

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same with doomfist

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i don’t think he went to school either

faint plover May 17, 2021, 3:02 PM

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im really curious as to how widowmaker is in her 30s when she looked about the same age as jack, ana, and gabriel during when they were around in overwatch. did she possibly use the same method as mei did or is the overwatch lore messing up people’s ages

spark parcel May 17, 2021, 3:04 PM

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It’s probably related to what talon did to her like slowing her heart and all that stuff.

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But she wasn’t frozen

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 3:05 PM

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jaunty crown wait did hanzo and genji have an education?

probably private tutors

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 3:06 PM

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faint plover im really curious as to how widowmaker is in her 30s when she looked about the s...

what do you mean?

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Widowmaker during Legacy (~27 years old)

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Ana during Legacy (~54 years old)

faint plover May 17, 2021, 3:11 PM

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peak escarp Widowmaker during Legacy (~27 years old)

but widow was here during the time when gerard was working with overwatch and when jack, gabriel, and ana were all approximately in their 30s.

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i could be wrong idk.

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 3:11 PM

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they were in their 40s/50s, Amelie was in her 20s

faint plover May 17, 2021, 3:12 PM

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ohh that makes sense then.

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 3:12 PM

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we don't know how old Gerard was when he was murdered

faint plover May 17, 2021, 3:12 PM

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possibly same age as amelie/older than amelie.

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he looks about a good 30 to me.

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Reyes is 50 here

forest drum May 17, 2021, 7:24 PM

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The thing I find interesting about this game is that Reaper and Moira can be on the same team without an argument

cosmic crest May 17, 2021, 7:25 PM

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What would they have to argue about?

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They're allies in lore.

forest drum May 17, 2021, 7:26 PM

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I thought Moira experimented on him which caused the disfunction of his dna

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But I think they were apart of blackwatch during some point

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 7:37 PM

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forest drum The thing I find interesting about this game is that Reaper and Moira can be on ...

Moira and Reaper are allies, but eve if they weren't the game isn't canon - enemies can be on the same team without issue

forest drum May 17, 2021, 7:37 PM

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What about in game voice lines?

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They're just random...

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 7:40 PM

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In game voicelines aren’t canon.

peak escarp May 17, 2021, 7:40 PM

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they're "what if"s

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what if these heroes met, what would they say?

iron plume May 17, 2021, 8:18 PM

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They accurately represent the heroes' characters, but not the situation

fiery gate May 17, 2021, 9:14 PM

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forest drum I thought Moira experimented on him which caused the disfunction of his dna

that was viper from valorant i thought

hushed jetty May 17, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Do you guys have any NPC lore you'd like more of?
Personally I'd just like to hear what Gerard and Mauga actually sound like

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 11:40 PM

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hushed jetty Do you guys have any NPC lore you'd like more of? Personally I'd just like to he...

I'd really like more lore on Sanjay and Sainclair

limpid agate May 17, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Mauga won't always be an NPC

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 11:41 PM

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I don't even think Sainclair has a canon appearance so I'd like to see what he looks like.

limpid agate May 17, 2021, 11:42 PM

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Mauga is someone Blizz has voiced interested in making into a hero

hushed jetty May 17, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Well, yes, But Still

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 11:52 PM

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I think Gerard's position was really interesting and I think touching on his character is bound to happen (as I'm sure it affected everyone who was in Overwatch).

hushed jetty May 17, 2021, 11:53 PM

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Mauga will be a hero eventually but Gerard? Dead. Dead as hell. So I think a few lore tidbits on him would be nice

tribal plume May 17, 2021, 11:54 PM

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hushed jetty Mauga will be a hero eventually but Gerard? Dead. Dead as hell. So I think a few...

Agreed.

hushed jetty May 17, 2021, 11:54 PM

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I just wanna hear his voice, at least. Maybe I'm biased

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 12:08 AM

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hushed jetty I just wanna hear his voice, at least. Maybe I'm biased

I honestly wouldn’t mind if they gave us a few of the NPC’s voices (even the dead ones).

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Alright, what's with Roadhog's face? I mean what is he hiding underneath his "Pig Gas Mask"

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In the wanted poster, it seems Roadhog's visage looks like of a pig's? Is it based on theory from the Police Department's POV?

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Also, about the Overwatch comics, should I buy them? Or is the cinematic trailers all I need without wasting money.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:07 AM

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hushed jetty Do you guys have any NPC lore you'd like more of? Personally I'd just like to he...

Hamid Faisal

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I want to know about him

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:08 AM

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drowsy violet Also, about the Overwatch comics, should I buy them? Or is the cinematic traile...

you can read the comics online for free

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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peak escarp Hamid Faisal

the petra archaeologist dude?

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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!!loreComics

twilit nacelleBOT May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Comics Series 1:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG

Tracer - London Calling:
#1: https://bit.ly/3mknXBx
#2: https://bit.ly/318GEix
#3: https://bit.ly/3lorayj
#4: https://bit.ly/2MTe3JM
#5: https://bit.ly/3bD4dVi

Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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worthy rose the petra archaeologist dude?

Yes.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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yeah

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Ana knows him

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I'd like to know how/why

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Ana and Soldier.

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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does winston how to do anything w petra btw?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:09 AM

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is there an Overwatch connection?

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ive always assumed that he was there for a while

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Winston has nothing to do with Petra

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 1:10 AM

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oh

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:10 AM

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No known heroes have been there

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 1:10 AM

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hmmm

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:11 AM

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I'd also like to learn about Sam, and his relationship with Ana and Fareeha

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and about Reyes's family

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and the other heroes's families

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:13 AM

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peak escarp and about Reyes's family

Question- In that one Christmas comic where Reaper was stalking that one family, were those people his family?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:14 AM

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most likely

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Got it 👍

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:15 AM

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the writer confirmed that they're not "some random family", and that they have significance to Reyes

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Interesting.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:17 AM

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my guess is it's his daughter and her husband and son

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Yeah I would guess that, too. They look too young to be his spouse.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:18 AM

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but it could be his ex-wife, or it's his son

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we don't have a current father-son relationship

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:19 AM

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That is also true.

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Hope they talk about it in Ow2.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:19 AM

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yeah

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 1:24 AM

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twilit nacelle Comics Series 1: Train Hopper: <https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I> Dragon Slayer: <https://...

do these go in order?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 1:26 AM

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they are in order of release

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there isnt really a chronological order

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I made a simple timeline with the important ones, the rest are "around Recall" (except for Legacy, Retribution and Uprising)

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:46 AM

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drowsy violet do these go in order?

There are a few there that do have a proper order

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But they're mostly detatched stories listed in release order

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!!loreguide

twilit nacelleBOT May 18, 2021, 1:49 AM

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This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 1:49 AM

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These are the important ones or ordered ones

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The rest can be read in any order really

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And even then, the Roadhog/Junkrat stuff is any order too

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Its just the Soldier/Ana arc that needs to be read sequentially

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Well, and London Calling.

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 1:51 AM

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ohhh roight, why didn't I think of that

hushed jetty May 18, 2021, 2:27 AM

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wait i thought alive happened right alongside london calling

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wait i just can't read

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nevermind sorry

hushed jetty May 18, 2021, 3:01 AM

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actually, question, does overwatch know that amelie was the one that killed gerard?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Overwatch, no

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Ana and Soldier do

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Overwatch thought Amelie was kidnapped/killed as well

covert echo May 18, 2021, 4:09 AM

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peak escarp Overwatch thought Amelie was kidnapped/killed as well

Didn't overwatch rescue her though?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:10 AM

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after the first kidnapping

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then she killed Gerard and they thought whoever killed Gerard must have kidnapped and killed her too

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uncut pelican May 18, 2021, 6:08 AM

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question- How did Ana lose one of her eyes?

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 6:09 AM

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she had a cybernetic eye voluntarily implanted to make her a better sniper

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then that cybernetic eye was destroyed when Widowmaker's shot hit the scope of Ana's rifle, sending shrapnel into her eye

uncut pelican May 18, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Ahh I see thank u

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 6:10 AM

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uncut pelican May 18, 2021, 6:30 AM

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now that gives me chills

topaz ledge May 18, 2021, 8:36 AM

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is there anything known about the retirement of reinhardt?

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because there is a conversation between him and sombra about it

limpid agate May 18, 2021, 8:38 AM

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No

worthy rose May 18, 2021, 10:18 AM

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hey guy's it's me Jeff

iron plume May 18, 2021, 10:50 AM

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!!loreonly @worthy rose

twilit nacelleBOT May 18, 2021, 10:50 AM

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@pale sage This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 10:57 AM

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topaz ledge because there is a conversation between him and sombra about it

Well,Sombra knows everything about everyone (I'm exaggerating).

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But Reinhardt's retirement, you can see it in the comics and cinematic videos

sullen raptor May 18, 2021, 11:12 AM

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People said rein retired because he was forced to

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But whats the reasoning is the question

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Old age?

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Did he retired even before OW disbanded?

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 11:20 AM

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sullen raptor Old age?

I'd say after the death of his mentor he didn't wanna be in anymore, and he took his mentor's invitation to Overwatch (I think)

iron plume May 18, 2021, 11:25 AM

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His whole overwatch career was after the death of his mentor, so that's not the reason he left

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We don't know what exactly happened, but judging by Mercy and Brigitte's comments it wasn't his decision
Most likely it was about his age/condition and prompted by the Prague mission that Ana brings up in Bastet

sullen raptor May 18, 2021, 12:46 PM

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I mean i kinda sided with brig tho..rein is old, he SHOULD be retiring

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Didn’t they have to let him go after they did the (first story mission of Archives) because Overwatch wasn’t permitted to help but they did it anyways?

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Am I remembering that wrong?

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Some people think thats why he didn’t look very happy with Sojourn in those few clips, she may have been the one (or one of the people) who had the say in it.

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Wait no wasn’t it the one with Torb?

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I forget.

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(The one where he saved Torb, then Torb let him name Brig as a gift or whatever.)

sour dock May 18, 2021, 12:54 PM

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i cool you not cool

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 12:56 PM

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sour dock i cool you not cool

Yeah, thats fair. No shitposting, though.

iron plume May 18, 2021, 12:57 PM

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tribal plume Didn’t they have to let him go after they did the (first story mission of Archiv...

It's possible that they scapegoated him but that hasn't been said

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I don't really see it

iron plume May 18, 2021, 12:57 PM

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tribal plume (The one where he saved Torb, then Torb let him name Brig as a gift or whatever....

That one was way earlier, just after the Crisis

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Ohh, okay. I have really bad memory, so I often forget things about Overwatch lore (even though I talk about it all the time) 😅

sullen raptor May 18, 2021, 1:38 PM

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I always thought OW founded by 76 but i guess not?

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I only know now OW lead by winston..since hes the one doing call for agents..?

pastel dust May 18, 2021, 1:42 PM

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I think OW was founded by 76, but Winston is bringing it back together

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Soldier and Ana aren't coming back to OW because they think OW is better off without them

jaunty crown May 18, 2021, 1:44 PM

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ow was founded my the united nations wasn't it

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if 76 founded it why was reyes appointed as the leader at first

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the united nations formed a team of elite soldiers from across the world to fight against the omnics in the crisis

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i could be completely wrong but thats just how i saw it

pastel dust May 18, 2021, 1:48 PM

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I mean, that sounds about right

jaunty crown May 18, 2021, 2:00 PM

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sullen raptor I only know now OW lead by winston..since hes the one doing call for agents..?

i don't think you should jump to that conclusion yet, winston only helped to recruit and reunite the former ow members, there is definitely more lore to come in ow2 considering soldier is probably going play a part in some of the lore going on but you could be right.

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 2:18 PM

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It was founded by the United Nations.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Overwatch was formed by the UN, and the founding members were Gabriel Reyes, Jack Morrison, Ana Amari, Reinhardt Wilhelm, Torbjorn Lindholm and Dr. Mina Liao

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Reyes was the leader of the initial strike team, but Morrison showed better leadership so when the crisis was over the UN made him Strike Commander

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Story behind Echo???

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 2:32 PM

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drowsy violet Story behind Echo???

she's an experimental adaptive robot made by Dr. Liao

static mountain May 18, 2021, 2:39 PM

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drowsy violet Story behind Echo???

Lady make robot and it go in egg and now its not anymore

drowsy violet May 18, 2021, 2:49 PM

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tbh I thought Echo was Dr. Liao for some reason, and Dr. Liao was dying, so she transferred her conciousness to the robots. THough it doesnt make sense so whateva

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 2:51 PM

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nope

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 3:44 PM

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!!shitposting @visual thicket

twilit nacelleBOT May 18, 2021, 3:44 PM

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@visual thicket Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

crystal rock May 18, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Wait is Dr. Mina Liao dead?

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From the OW explosion incident?

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Or her status is unknown?

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I know Echo sort of represents Dr Liao's will

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Like she REPRESENTS her, but I don't know if it implies that she's dead?

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Liao is dead.* Because Echo is an adaptive robot she learned a lot from Dr. Liao.

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So they seem a bit similar, yes.

crystal rock May 18, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Also, do we know who was there AT the blast in the OW HQ?

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Because atm, I can only recall Gabe and Jack?

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But the rest were elsewhere at the time?

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I don’t remember everyone.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:16 PM

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we don't have a list

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Genji and McCree had left Overwatch

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Reinhardt was forced to retire

crystal rock May 18, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Winston was at Gibraltor?

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Gibraltar*

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:17 PM

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others were still in Overwatch but probably not present for the battle

crystal rock May 18, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Must've been a Jack-Gabe-Ana situation

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Ana was MIA by then

crystal rock May 18, 2021, 4:18 PM

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oh

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:18 PM

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if Ana was there, I don't think they would have fought

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she seemed to be a mediator between them

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Agreed, she’s definitely a mediator.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:21 PM

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they'll tell us the full story of that fight someday

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hopefully in a novel

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I prefer novels over animation because you can get their internal thoughts and other exposition that can't be shared in a visual medium

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Thats true, it sucks they have so little novels atm.

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:34 PM

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they only started doing them last year

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they take time to produce

tribal plume May 18, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Oh, really? The Orisa one seems so much older.

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My perception of time 😬

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:40 PM

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nope, it came out June 2020

fiery gate May 18, 2021, 4:46 PM

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i want the archive event to finish dammit, what happens when they tal kto doomfist

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or whoever that is at the end

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 4:49 PM

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fiery gate i want the archive event to finish dammit, what happens when they tal kto doomfi...

https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI

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they go fight Doomfist in Singapore

fiery gate May 18, 2021, 4:53 PM

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ahh

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i didnt know those correlated

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i thought the storm rising thing was after doom escaped and shook up talon

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 5:01 PM

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nope - Storm Rising is 6 years ago, before Doomfist gets put in prison

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he breaks out after Recall in present day

raven ridge May 18, 2021, 5:20 PM

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so the lore amiright

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 5:29 PM

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what about it

junior mason May 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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What is written on Baptiste’s belt in his new skin?

static mountain May 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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isnt it grvy

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like 'groovy'

peak escarp May 18, 2021, 7:32 PM

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yeah

nocturne fog May 19, 2021, 4:50 AM

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peak escarp she seemed to be a mediator between them

I mean in her short story we saw that she was torn between them

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So it less of a seemed and more of a guarentee

grand wedge May 19, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Gabriel said that Ana always took Jack’s side

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(Can’t remember if it’s in the Old Soldier comic or IG interaction or both)

tropic badge May 19, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Reaper: I shouldn't be surprised you took his side.
Ana: You never gave me much choice.

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I took this from wiki

limpid agate May 19, 2021, 8:38 AM

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That's in refrence to Old Soldiers

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Ana took Soldier's side and fought against Reaper.

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Because Reaper is a terrorist.

tropic badge May 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Reaper: Just like old times.
Ana: Right. Except for the part where you became a homicidal murderer

lmao

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Which are the sides we know about other than Talon and the new Overwatch ?

iron plume May 19, 2021, 9:33 AM

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Null Sector is the big one

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But there's multiple other organizations, from local gangs like the Junkers to international PMCs like Helix

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:36 AM

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What did Helix do?

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Or what was it about

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:38 AM

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tropic badge Reaper: Just like old times. Ana: Right. Except for the part where you became a ...

I mean, he was tired of people of powerful people abusing their positions, honestly I would do the same

iron plume May 19, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Helix is a security company
They took over a lot of Overwatch's assets and posts after it was shut down
Among other things, they employ Pharah to contain the Anubis AI

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Oh ok

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So we have:
New Overwatch: Winston, Mercy, Mei, Tracer, Brigitte, Reinhardt, Genji, Echo (Zenyatta?, Torbjorn?, Bastion?)
Junkers: Junkrat, Roadhog
Helix: Pharah
Talon: Doomfist, Reaper, Sombra, Widowmaker, Moira, Sigma
Deadlock Gang: Ashe
"Soldier Vengence Group": Ana, Soldier 76
Russian Army: Zarya
Korean Army: D.va
Loners: Orisa, Hammond, Hanzo, Lucio, Baptiste,
Vishkar Corporation: Symmetra

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Lol no

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She's from Egypt

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Unless Ana gave birth in another state

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That doesn't mean anything lol

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I can be italian an cook something russian

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That explains

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:50 AM

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cold hatch So we have: New Overwatch: Winston, Mercy, Mei, Tracer, Brigitte, Reinhardt, Gen...

@iron plume can you confirm?

iron plume May 19, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Deadlock gang

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Oh yeah deadlock not hamlock

iron plume May 19, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Zarya and D.va aren't loners, they're with the Russian and Korean armies respectively

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and Zarya will be joining new OW if we believe the storyboards

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Ok gonna change that asap

iron plume May 19, 2021, 9:53 AM

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The actual enemy factions in-game will probably just be Talon and Null Sector

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possibly also Helix, if we get Talon missions

cosmic crest May 19, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Pharah is half Canadian.

tropic badge May 19, 2021, 12:53 PM

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hammond is a junker i believe

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 1:01 PM

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He was in the Lunar Colony but once he got to Earth he fought in the mech arenas at Junkertown, yes.

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

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hammond isnt a junker anymore

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we know he left the place

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:24 PM

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cold hatch So we have: New Overwatch: Winston, Mercy, Mei, Tracer, Brigitte, Reinhardt, Gen...

dont think zenyatta is part of overwatch lmao

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:24 PM

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compact cobalt dont think zenyatta is part of overwatch lmao

In fact I wrote "?" After his name

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We don't know

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 2:25 PM

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I think they were just where he lives, I don’t think it’s even a question.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:25 PM

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But he trained Genji

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 2:25 PM

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He wouldn’t align himself like that.

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

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cold hatch But he trained Genji

He trained Genji when Genji wasn't with overwatch

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That said, there's a possibility of him joining in 2, but it's not for sure

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Well

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He could be like a "Behind the scenes" kinda guy

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Like Sojorn

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Like, he's in OW but it doesn't fight

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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from the ow 2 cutscene we know that hes in an indian? temple

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Any possibile Asian temple

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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he probably will be involved with ow but highly unlikely as a member

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Or even Oriental in general

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:29 PM

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overwatch goes againts zenyattas ideals

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:29 PM

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But he is connected due to Genji

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So he might not join, but still be "a friend"

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:30 PM

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If i had to guess what happens

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widow comes to assasinate zenyatta but genji saves him

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zenyatta might come to overwatch for protection

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thats all i'd expect

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:32 PM

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cold hatch Like Sojorn

Sojourn is definitely going to fight in OW2

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:32 PM

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yeah

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

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And I can see Zen joining them for a mission or two

opaque tundra May 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I personally don't think Talon is trying to assassinate Zen. Why send Sombra and an army of grunts when Widow can easily one-shot him?

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

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the new overwatch doesn't really "go against his ideas"

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

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they want to solve violence with violence

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where zenyatta wants to solve violence with nonviolence

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

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He prefers it but he's not a pacifist

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:34 PM

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he'll fight in self defense

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:34 PM

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He'll fight in defense of others, too

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And one could easily argue that fighting a worldwide terrorist organisation unleashing waves of killing and destruction is in defense of others

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 2:35 PM

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thats why im saying he'll join it for protection because of genji

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if genjis in trouble I doubt zen would sit back

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 2:44 PM

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iron plume Sojourn is definitely going to fight in OW2

I didn't finish the sentence, "Like Sojorn in OW 1"

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Lorewise, she fought in the original overwatch too

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:52 PM

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i think blizzard gonna make a majority of heroes join the new overwatch, just so they are playable in the story mode

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there are a few i see not joining, junkers and talon mostly but besides that i expect most of the rest joining

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:55 PM

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we're not far from a majority with just the ones that are either confirmed or seen in storyboards

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15 out of 33 if you include the current roster + sojourn

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:56 PM

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i more meant i expect people like zen, pharah (who is already shown at blizzcon), dva, orisa to join

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Maybe

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Pharah is almost certainly in

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But they don't have to join the organisation to be playable in some missions

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D.va and Orisa could stay to defend their countries but team up with OW for a stretch

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so could Zen

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:57 PM

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well they way i undestand how they gonna do it, is that all heroes will be playble in all mission, but they might have some fixed heroes that need to played in a mission

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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All heroes will be playable in non-canon "hero missions"

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Only the story-relevant heroes will be playable in story missions

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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I meant all heroes who join ow

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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I doubt that

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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they said that

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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No they didn't

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There's a Toronto mission that's supposedly where they pick up Sojourn

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:58 PM

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let me grab it

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:59 PM

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It would either have to be the first or it wouldn't make sense to have her in the earlier ones

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And if it's the first then we run into the same situation with Lucio and Rio

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:59 PM

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well let me explain it better

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you can pick out of a group of heroes that are at that time in ow2

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Yes

broken imp May 19, 2021, 2:59 PM

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For example, Brig rein mein tracer

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Or mercy genji winston echo

iron plume May 19, 2021, 2:59 PM

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But "that time" might not be forever

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e.g. Sojourn and Lucio join for mission X and are available in all missions after

broken imp May 19, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Yes that is what i mean

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Sorry i am bad at explaining things xD

iron plume May 19, 2021, 3:00 PM

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but Orisa and D.va are only available for missions X and Y that are in/around Numbani and Korea

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We'll see, ultimately, but point stands that they don't have to join the organization to be in the story

broken imp May 19, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I think orisa and d.va are most likely candiate for joining the new ow anyways

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if you dont count torb bastion, pharah, zarya

iron plume May 19, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Well, depends on what you mean by most likely
Out of the ones that aren't straight up confirmed? I guess

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But that's a pretty short list after that

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Torb is retired so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t join.

iron plume May 19, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Well, some people have been "dead" and that didn't stop them, retirement is hardly anything

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But yes Torb is unlikely, it's pretty clear that Bastion is set up to take "his" place

broken imp May 19, 2021, 3:04 PM

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rein is also retired

iron plume May 19, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Rein isn't, he still goes around adventuring and defending people

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 3:05 PM

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iron plume But yes Torb is unlikely, it's pretty clear that Bastion is set up to take "his"...

That’s what I meant to reference.

broken imp May 19, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Wasnt torb either or did he stop with that comeptely

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I remember him going around destroying omnics on his own

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and that is how he find bastion

iron plume May 19, 2021, 3:06 PM

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He found Bastion after the government specifically requested him to come out and deal with a rogue omnic as a one-time deal

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Reinhardt on the other hand continuously drives around the world with Brig helping people

broken imp May 19, 2021, 3:07 PM

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okay

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I cant post pictures

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F

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Bastion is shown to be in the a conecept for ow2 alongside pharah, zarya tracer and wisnton in their ship but cant post it

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Yeah, I’m sure most of us have seen it anyways.

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I’m excited to see Reinhardts reaction to bastion

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

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broken imp rein is also retired

Rein was retired from the first overwatch

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But that wasn’t by choice

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:21 PM

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compact cobalt I’m excited to see Reinhardts reaction to bastion

It showed a tiny bit of it at Blizzconline, I am also very excited.

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Really?

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When?

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Let me find the time-stamp hold on

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https://youtu.be/lRj-GotnNaQ 32:07

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 4:27 PM

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tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Thanks Doc jay3Heart

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:28 PM

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LMAO

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 4:28 PM

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(then Torbjorn shows up to explain everything, since this is happening in Torb's workshop)

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Bastion shows visable fear lmao

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Yeah I mean anyone would be terrified.

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I'd be scared too if Reinhardt came running at me

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:29 PM

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300 pound German man in full armor with a 2 meter long giant hammer charging at you

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But it shows that bastion can actually feel which is cool

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:30 PM

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True!

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Also I made my zenyatta prediction without knowing about that scene

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I’m kind of a genius

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Lmaooo

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I wonder why Talon is there.

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Thought it could be an assassination, but* why bring Sombra?

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:35 PM

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To kill zenyatta

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Or capture

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That’s a very early render

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It could change

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:36 PM

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That is true.

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Invisibility is certainly useful for capturing someone lmao

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Yeah, it is, lmao.

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We’ll have to see. I’m genuinely excited to see more about Talon.

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Like who the other people in the council are and why they are there. (Like Sanjay)

pastel dust May 19, 2021, 4:44 PM

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I feel bad for Rein in that circumstance. He's defenetly got some PTSD from the omnic rising and Eichenwalde, so it's a suprise that he stopped there instead of just killing bastion.

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 4:48 PM

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not PTSD

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but definitely trauma

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someone with PTSD would run away, not toward

sharp pebble May 19, 2021, 5:02 PM

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He has anger issues

cosmic crest May 19, 2021, 5:31 PM

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No. Not really.

fiery gate May 19, 2021, 5:32 PM

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ptsd doesnt mean you run lol

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it could be a violent reaction to something

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my uncle was in the military and freaks out when people walk behind him

pastel dust May 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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All in all, a lot of OW characters really need a hug

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Like those kinds that last for a solid minute, and it's real cozy

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Cause lots of the characters have some serious trauma

elder iris May 19, 2021, 6:05 PM

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true

hasty basalt May 19, 2021, 6:09 PM

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peak escarp someone with PTSD would run *away*, not toward

PTSD has very different outcomes from person to person.....PTSD can be very dangerous for yourself when you have it because depressions and drama and for other people when you panic from random things like a driller or streetworkers with tools.....your brain thinks fuck war dude survive and you go in kill mode if you have bad luck

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hell my buds and i started some firecrackers once in a street to our gym after new year and a old man on the other side jumped in the bushes at side and freaked out waas kinda sad 😦

broken imp May 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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So a voice lines between charecters canon
winston and sigma have a new one that goes like this:
Winston: "I remember you , you visted the doctor on the lunar colony
Sigma: "He was a good friendm and you were much smaller back then"

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So would it be conciderd canon that they know eachother and then sigma was friends with doctor winston

grand wedge May 19, 2021, 6:37 PM

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The fact that Sigma went on a visit on the moon and have met Winston is canon

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The interaction itself isn't - because the game we play is PVP and are like "what ifs" senario

broken imp May 19, 2021, 6:38 PM

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That makes sence, I wonder if this gonna be a thing in the ow2 story

grand wedge May 19, 2021, 6:39 PM

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It depends of how and if the characters would meet in OW 2

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The one with Tracer and Dva may become canon because we know that at some point, Dva will meet and team up with new Overwatch :

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so if she befriend Tracer, that interaction will make sense as canon

deft hedge May 19, 2021, 6:58 PM

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whos emily

trim sluice May 19, 2021, 7:00 PM

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tracer's girlfriend

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:27 PM

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grand wedge The fact that Sigma went on a visit on the moon and have met Winston is canon

He was on the moon with everyone else, once his failed experiment happened they got him back to Earth.

limpid agate May 19, 2021, 7:29 PM

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@tribal plume No

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That was on a space station

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Not on the moon

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:32 PM

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I would like a finale where everyone gets their stuff together, Talon separates and everyone becomes good

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But that's not gonna happen

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Cuz people don't like "Happily Ever After" finales

limpid agate May 19, 2021, 7:32 PM

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That's always a silly suggestion. The world has villains. Without villains, there is no reason for heroes

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I'd prefer a world without heroes and villains rather than a world where you have to fight

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But OW is not my world

worthy rose May 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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If Reaper becomes good and makes up with his former buddy.I would barf and then uninstall

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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So I can't decide

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:34 PM

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worthy rose If Reaper becomes good and makes up with his former buddy.I would barf and then ...

Agreed.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:34 PM

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worthy rose If Reaper becomes good and makes up with his former buddy.I would barf and then ...

You have a special place in hell, right in front of Reaper if he doesn't do that

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Jk jk

worthy rose May 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Lmao ok

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

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But I would still like a Widowmaker "unbrainwash", her story is so sad

worthy rose May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Shes not brainwashed shes conditioned

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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No

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Reaper brainwashed her

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To make her kill her husband

worthy rose May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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No he did not lol

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Yeah he did

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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cold hatch No

She isn’t brainwashed.

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She was reconditioned

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Two different things

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Still, they tortured her to make her kill

worthy rose May 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Even if she was brainwashed it was not Reaper who did it

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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It was Blackwatch

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Talon

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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So he is somehow involved

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Talon not Blackwatch...

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Gerard was working with Blackwatch

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Talon are the ones who killed him

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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I saw a video that narrated the story of OW, and it said that Blackwatch brainwashed her to kill her husband, who was a Blackwatch spy, but Reaper suspected him and ordered to kill him

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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cold hatch I saw a video that narrated the story of OW, and it said that Blackwatch brainwa...

that is incorrect

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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That is so incorrect 💀

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Talon kidnapped Amelie and made her a sleeper agent to kill her husband Gerard

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Then why did Reaper joined Talon?

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Reyes was not part of Talon until years later

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we don't know why he joined Talon

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Still

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Widow story is sad

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That is fact

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Yes, it is sad.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:42 PM

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peak escarp Talon kidnapped Amelie and made her a sleeper agent to kill her husband Gerard

Wait what's a sleeper agent?

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:43 PM

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think Winter Soldier

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they act like normal until they get triggered to kill their target

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Two weeks later she killed Gérard in his sleep.```

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Thank you for the explanation

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I have a question tho

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Why is she blue

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Doesn’t it have to do with her heartrate?

static mountain May 19, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Yeah

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I thought they slowed it down

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I forget what it had to do with the whole thing but I’m pretty sure it was the slowed heart rate.

static mountain May 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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is that realistic

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Considering its Overwatch, probably not.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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To make her more efficient, but if the heartbeat is lower, shouldn't her be like a vegetable? And not have all the incredible agility she has?

static mountain May 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Probably not i just think it would be cool if we could turn blue

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:49 PM

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that's the excuse they gave, but no, it's not realistic

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a lowered heart rate would make her pale and faint a lot from low blood pressure

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Exactly

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Also she wouldn't survive in cold climate

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Like in Russia when they went on that mission

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I don’t understand the technical reasons as to why they (Talon) slowed her heart rate but jay3Shrug

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:50 PM

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but it's sci-fi so it doesn't have to work according to the real world

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Yeah you're right

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 7:51 PM

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it just has to have internal logic

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Exactly, haha.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:51 PM

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But it would be cool if we got that far in technology

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I think its a cool touch, though. I like them having details like that.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Such a shame most of us won't see this kind of tacky future

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Yeah, too bad we can’t experience a robot civil war.

cosmic crest May 19, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Actually, if you artificially slowed someones heart rate they probably would turn blue. But they'd also get anemia and have no energy to do anything.

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:53 PM

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cosmic crest Actually, if you artificially slowed someones heart rate they probably would tur...

Thank you, I am not the science type 🙏

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Exactly, as I said they would be vegetables basically

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Btw who's thr girl in your pfp? She looks like the Team Rocket's girl (which I don't know the name of in english)

cosmic crest May 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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She's an obscure girl from Pokemon.

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Do we got to see her in any way canonically?

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Like in a game or episode?

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Offtopic

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Ok

peak escarp May 19, 2021, 8:00 PM

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a lot of the science in Overwatch is based off technology that is in it's very beginning phase now

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nanobiotics, sonic weapons, cybernetics, AI . . . even hard light is being seriously studied

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 8:04 PM

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It’s very interesting, I wish I had a good understanding of any of it 😅

cold hatch May 19, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Probably not even the scientists that study it have good knowledge of it for now lol

static mountain May 19, 2021, 8:13 PM

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is hard light symm's gun and stuff

lyric sluice May 19, 2021, 8:20 PM

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yes

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also sheilds

pastel dust May 19, 2021, 8:21 PM

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It's crazy to think that I will probably live to see that kind of stuff in action. I'm sure it's not gonna turn out like OW, but it'll probably feel like it at least a little bit

lyric sluice May 19, 2021, 8:21 PM

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maybe....... hard light seems pretty far off ngl

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maybe tho

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if we get another albert enstien to further develop his equation relating light to matter

pastel dust May 19, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Yeah hard light seems far off, but the other stuff would be pretty cool to see

lyric sluice May 19, 2021, 8:22 PM

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like hovering shit

pastel dust May 19, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Yeah I wanna drive a hovercar

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 9:10 PM

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The amount of times I’ve seen people say widow was brainwashed and then like 5 people correct them is insane

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 9:35 PM

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It happens so much.

limpid agate May 19, 2021, 9:57 PM

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compact cobalt The amount of times I’ve seen people say widow was brainwashed and then like 5 p...

Conditioned

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She was conditioned.

tribal plume May 19, 2021, 9:58 PM

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That's what they were talking about, people correcting the "brainwashing" thing to conditioned lmao

limpid agate May 19, 2021, 9:58 PM

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It happens because people keep doing it.

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They used a specific word that is different from another specific word

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Its like saying "Symmetra is a villain" vs "Symmetra is evil."

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They are two different statements entirely

compact cobalt May 19, 2021, 10:13 PM

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limpid agate Conditioned

I know lmao

sullen raptor May 19, 2021, 11:49 PM

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I dont think symm is evil tbh

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Shes just not know yet

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And kinda in denial based on her interaction with lucio

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I wonder what would she react when her boss actually stole lucio tech thingie

iron plume May 19, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Vishkar didn't steal it, Lucio's father was their employee

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Now he might not have liked the way they use it, and you could argue they use it for evil, but it's not stealing

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If she finds out that Sanjay works with Talon though, that might cause some pretty big doubts in her

sullen raptor May 19, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Ooh

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Sym is a weird character

limpid agate May 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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@sullen raptorThat was the point.

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Sym is not evil.

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She is a villain, but she is not evil.

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 1:33 AM

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She is bad guy, but does that mean she is bad guy?

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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not all villains are evil

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I’m tired of sympathetic villains and villains who are the protagonist!

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I...

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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I love sympathetic villains and villains who are protagonists!

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No but genuinely I do, I find them interesting.

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How they can be on the edge of good and bad but not really morally grey. (Or maybe they can be.)

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Facts...?

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Your status says it all

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Hmm?

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LMAO

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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No dialogue

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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But yeah, no hate to you for disliking them or anything, but I love a good villain protag.

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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Respectable

empty sail May 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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can someone explain to me the lore behind bap and talon

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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I would explain it but I'm worried I'll leave a detail out because it's kind of late so I'll let someone else do that, sorry I can't help.

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 1:55 AM

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empty sail can someone explain to me the lore behind bap and talon

Baptiste joined Talon because he needed the money, didn't realize how shady they were until they started looting during a mission, went AWOL and now Talon wants him back (or dead, they're not picky)

empty sail May 20, 2021, 1:59 AM

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so he's a field medic turned mercenary?

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Not exactly

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:00 AM

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pretty much actually

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Who remembers when we though Doomfist was gonna be the Thanos of overwatch?

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Yes

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:06 AM

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tulip tulip Who remembers when we though Doomfist was gonna be the Thanos of overwatch?

what does that even mean

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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He was supposed to be the big bad of overwatch!

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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he is

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Exactly. Transporting his gauntlet in Numbani was terrifying. Potentially getting Terry Crews to voice him as well! We thought he was going to be a big, menacing tank that every other hero cowers in fear over. Instead, he’s just some schmuck damage we don’t like as a character...

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Transporting the infinity gauntlet...

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Doomfist is still the biggest threat Overwatch has faced

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Terry Crews would have ruined the character

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he would not have had the gravitas or charisma of Sahr Ngaujah

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being tank or damage is irrelevant to the story

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Gameplay > story

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:15 AM

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incorrect

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this is the lore channel

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we don't care about gameplay

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Couldn’t have said it better myself.

sullen raptor May 20, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Cant Mondatta be repaired tho? I mean hes a machine

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Or bring back operated?

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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no

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Even IF they could, they probably aren’t allowed to.

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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My understanding is that omnics are made by omniums right? and those places aren't designed to repair - only to make

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i think

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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“Yes,” Zenyatta replied, seemingly untroubled by her blunt statement.
“Before that, I did not realize omnics could die. You are machines; I had
assumed you could replace parts.”
“In theory, yes. But replacement parts have yet to be found for a soul, be it
human…or omnic.”```

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Who is Sym

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Like I know what she does and shit

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Symmetra?

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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tribal plume Symmetra?

Yeah

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Like what does she do as a job

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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peak escarp ```“I know about Mondatta. He was killed,” Satya recalled. “Yes,” Zenyatta repli...

Is this from stone by stone?

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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worn island Is this from stone by stone?

yes

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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is satya symmetra?

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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worthy rose Like what does she do as a job

She works at Vishkar as a field agent.

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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worthy rose Like what does she do as a job

she's a hard light architech

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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worn island is satya symmetra?

Yes

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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she builds things out of hard light

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Oh

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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green latern basically

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Yeah basically

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 3:03 AM

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I don’t really watch DC

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:03 AM

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neither

worthy rose May 20, 2021, 3:03 AM

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But I know about Green Latern and stuff

worn island May 20, 2021, 3:03 AM

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I just remember he makes stuff out of light or smth

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:04 AM

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she's also the first playable video game character confirmed to be on the autism spectrum

tulip tulip May 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Me when people try to say I need to sit down and become informed on the lore: throws skateboard to the side “Dude, I could be gaming!”

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Too funny

hushed jetty May 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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if you dont wanna learn about the lore you dont have to

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oh also: opinions on the new anniversary interactions?

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I love them

broken oyster May 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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What are they

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Junkrat getting more interactions makes me happy

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https://youtu.be/LZLOAhhh2_o

YouTube

Overwatch Interactions

Overwatch - 20+ New Anniversary Interactions (2021)

Some new interactions from the Anniversary event! Junkrat in particular got a LOT! And it also seems we're getting three part interactions now!

▶ Play video

hushed jetty May 20, 2021, 3:08 AM

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i think the bap/reaper interactions are pretty funny

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:08 AM

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I've heard Sigma's for a while but it made me super happy he finally got them added to the game.

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:08 AM

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yeah

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there's still more that are missing

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Yeah, hopefully they get added soon!

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The Junkrat ones with Hanzo made me laugh, haha.

hushed jetty May 20, 2021, 3:09 AM

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also a meka pilot getting mentioned explicitly!!

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Casino, right?

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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that's the third MEKA member to get mentioned

hushed jetty May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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overlord

peak escarp May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Dae-hyun, King and now Overlord

tribal plume May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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damn it, my memory

hushed jetty May 20, 2021, 3:10 AM

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and some people suspect that the interaction between hana and hanzo is about king or dmon