Someone needs to enforce the Petras act.
#lore-discussion
timid eagle
Another thing to point out is, while they served as a replacement for Overwatch and are known as a peacemaking force, they often show disregard for collateral damage.
limpid agate
Yes
timid eagle
So that would be a factor for Pharah to leave them.
hasty basalt
Helix is often called also just a bunch of mercenaries with high payment badges on the shoulders 
finite urchin
You dont play overwatch or you’re 10
iron plume
don’t feed the trolls
finite urchin
Good point
median frigate
Yeah
peak escarp
I'd like Pharah, Zarya or D.va to be featured in the next short/story
to show us how they get to teaming up with Overwatch
or just show us Pharah's response to her mother's letter
dull temple
If hes the leader then why wouldnt he be the final boss
finite urchin
If hes the leader then why wouldnt he be the final boss
because sigma's probably the strongest
he controls gravity
anyway it's not confirmed, but to me it seems like he's by far the strongest
so he's the final boss to me
the null sector leader idk, probably as powerful as doomfist
limpid agate
"Strongest"
There are 5 contenders for that
Winston - Mary sue. Probably the strongest because the plot demands it. Beat Doomfist in a fist fight, did other stupidly strong feats like casually pick up or drag cars.
Orisa - Is extremely powerful physically. Casually stops speeding cars, has some silly durability feats in Hero of Numbani. She is probably the only thing in all of Overwatch that can take a punch from Winston. And she has versatile hard light attatchments.
Reaper - Cannot be killed by traditional means. Can't be killed by bullets, by electrocution, and is totally immune to poison. A significant majority of heroes literally can't do anything to him. Other than Winston. Again, Winston overpowered.
Sigma - We don't know the extent of his power, but by definition, gravity manipulation is stronger than pretty much everyone. It could be weaker, and there are holes (such as Reaper)
Symmetra - Hard Light OP. She is the Indian Green Lantern. We just don't know the limits of hard light bending, but we do know that it is physics defying in multiple ways. Creating matter from nothing, building city infrastructure "in the blink of an eye." It can be literally anything, and she is the best architech in the world. Extremely high potential.
chilly perch
Indian Green Lantern way to make me fond of a character that I hate
dull temple
I think even sym isnt sure how far Hard Light can go
In terms of potential
And orisa is still learning some stuff so shell be even better then what she already is
silver oriole
I'd like a story on maybe when he drove Vishkar out of his favella(probably butchered that word's spelling).
peak escarp
Sigma's strength depends on how much control he has over his power
and even if he has perfect control, he's not a violent person so he's not much of a threat
median frigate
Couldn’t talon do what they do to widow to him to make him more violent
median frigate
Ooo ok
finite urchin
it's so annoying how winston has jojo level plot armor
finite urchin
Winston - Mary sue. Probably the strongest because the plot demands it. Beat Doo...
thanks but where does it say she can tank a punch from winston?
finite urchin
okay...so we can assume that she can stop winston's punch too you mean
wait but wasnt doomfist taken out by winston's punch?
finite urchin
Winston - Mary sue. Probably the strongest because the plot demands it. Beat Doo...
well, you might wanna add a bit with reaper
although it's true that he can't be killed by everything we've seen so far
he can be incapacitated by all of them
so it's probably a case of revival instead of immunity
in other words, not as powerful as you make it sound
plus moira's probably stronger
than reaper
her invulnerability makes her invisible
limpid agate
Source
finite urchin
and she doesnt need weapons to steal health
winston electrocute dissembled him and brought him to his knees
russian mech hurt him when it slapped him away
he was punched away by winston in the reveal trailer
peak escarp
and she doesnt need weapons to steal health
she has her biotic grasp
that's a weapon
limpid agate
He destroyed the mech.
And you are not answering what I asked for, maybe I should be more specific
limpid agate
her invulnerability makes her invisible
Source
finite urchin
hm
limpid agate
In game, Reaper can teleport arbitrarily, and Zarya, a normal human, can survive having an arrow piercing her skull.
Also Reaper is not immune to poison in game
And Mercy can't rez corpses in the lore
finite urchin
whatever, then moira's probably stronger for another reason
limpid agate
His necrotic muntions have a latent anti-heal effect absent in game.
finite urchin
she gave reaper his powers a long time ago
limpid agate
Omnics cannot be healed by the same healing as humans
finite urchin
while she was still in blackwatch
finite urchin
ok ok i get it
finite urchin
game =/= canon
limpid agate
her invulnerability makes her invisible
Source
finite urchin
no source my mistake
limpid agate
Then you have no case.
finite urchin
but she's probably stronger for another reason
limpid agate
Based on what
finite urchin
she gave reaper his powers a long time ago
limpid agate
So
finite urchin
while she was still in blackwatch
limpid agate
So
finite urchin
now that she's funded by talon she most likely improved on her inventions
i dont think she gave reaper a boost to his ability though
limpid agate
Dr Harold Winston gave Winston his "powers." Dr Harold Winston is not nearly as powerful as Winston.
Efi built Orisa. Efi is not as powerful as Orisa.
finite urchin
but we see moira with that tank on her back
limpid agate
Ok.
finite urchin
meaning that she fights with her powers
limpid agate
So
finite urchin
i mean
peak escarp
the tank is her powers
finite urchin
her inventions
limpid agate
Based on what
finite urchin
based on the fact that she was given more time to research
limpid agate
That doesn't make sense.
finite urchin
i mean, she gave reaper his powers during blackwatch right?
limpid agate
Not entirely
finite urchin
she's funded by talon now, and was given more time since reaper got his powers to research
she probably did something with all that time
i mean it's a few years since then, she can't have done nothing
she definitely upgraded her creations
plus her succ is canon
her involvement in blackwatch proves that she can fight, she doesn't just research and stay in a base all day contributing to talon's science department
peak escarp
I still don't see how that would make her more powerful
finite urchin
what part don't you get?
ok lemme see how to explain this
reaper got his powers during blackwatch
peak escarp
Reaper isn't all that powerful anyway
peak escarp
he's just nigh unkillable
finite urchin
doesn't matter jewvia still considers him one of the candidates for the strongest
and i dont see how reaper could get upgrades to his ability
while moira, after blackwatch, was funded by talon
which allowed her to continue to improve on her creations
limpid agate
Your problem is you keep pointing at Reaper's powers as something that he "got" at a specific time
That's not correct.
peak escarp
which allowed her to continue to improve on her creations
you assume she would focus on improving her weapon to become more powerful
I doubt she cares about that sort of power
finite urchin
it's not all about her weapon
her weapon was developed using her research
bc she gave reaper powers using the same research a long time ago
reaper is only as strong as her "research" was back then
limpid agate
-
He was first part of the Soldier Enhancement Program >30 years ago. One of the known effects of this is natural cellular regeneration (Bastet)
-
He hired Moira to take a look at his genetics. She experimented on him at a time that was implied to be before Retribution. (Retribution, Moira Origins, Michael Chu)
-
Reaper should have died at the Swiss HQ explosion. He didn't. He is still under Moira's eye and care. (Quotes, Blog Posts)
finite urchin
now that talon funded her long after, her
limpid agate
The only reason Moira experimented on herself was because it was unethical to experiment on others.
Now she is allowed to unethically experiment on others
Whether they are Reyes, Talon troops, or people in Oasis.
Why would she experiment on herself
She has no reason to
finite urchin
she isn't gonna give herself powers
limpid agate
She doesnt care about power
finite urchin
but she'll probably use it to make talon weaponry and stuff
bc that's what talon hired her to do
peak escarp
it's implied she enhanced the assassin, sniper and heavy
finite urchin
uh...i only know about the sniper
limpid agate
Enforcers too
finite urchin
plus i dont think the assassin is
she kinda teleports
so i think it's tech based
hazy kiln
I have a question about Orisa. I know she was created by Efi from an OR15. I’ve heard her name represents OR15-A.
Has there been any hint about Efi creating OR15-B or an OR16 being created via Efi or another source?
limpid agate
They're not talking about the teleportation
They're talking about how the assassin was enhanced, as a side effect, they lost their sanity.
limpid agate
I have a question about Orisa. I know she was created by Efi from an OR15. I’ve ...
The OR15-A thing is more just an in universe coincidence. I think it might have been what Blizzard had in mind when they were naming her, but its not something that exists in the story
Like how Soldier 24 and Soldier 76 are the two important ones
And 24 + 76 = 100
Its just in universe coincidence for something that the devs thought about
peak escarp
I have a question about Orisa. I know she was created by Efi from an OR15. I’ve ...
mass-produced versions of Orisa haven't happened yet, but Efi did want to build a replacement for the Numbani public defenders, so it's something that could happen in the future
hazy kiln
The OR15-A thing is more just an in universe coincidence. I think it might have ...
Gotcha. I wasn’t sure if OR15-A was canon or not.
limpid agate
It isn't. Hero of Numbani shut that down.
hazy kiln
Ngl, I kinda miss the pre-doom fist airport in numbani.
cursive arrow
funny how OR14's and 15's have those gun things on the sides of their heads
yet we never see them used
cursive arrow
what about the OR14?
cursive arrow
ok
peak escarp
Doomfist raised his left hand, and cannons blasted bright yellow bursts from the cybernetic implants, knocking a spatial sensor off the side of the OR15. The robot stumbled in circles, trying to compensate for the sudden change in its sensory input.
they're spatial sensors
“Those are her spatial sensors. She needs those to get around.”
“Okay!” Hassana said. “Well, then maybe we can make them a little less blocky and a lot more stylized. Sloped, like warthog tusks. And we could give the whole chassis a paint job. This bone white and mold green aren’t doing anything for me.”```that novel gave a lot of good worldbuilding
limpid agate
It was pretty good for a kids book
Better than I was expecting
I would recommend the read if you're interested in Overwatch
peak escarp
yes
he can also speak to Hammond
because animals understand each other
they're the only ones who left
the other apes are still up there
hushed lagoon
so has the horizon base been abandoned?
peak escarp
all the humans there were killed
hushed lagoon
i wonder if anyone will end up returning to deal with the situation
hushed lagoon
i assume it wouldn’t be a priority for them though
or would it be considering Winston is from the base?
finite urchin
!!shitposting
sharp pebble
Lol
fluid glen
so hol up, is sigma like a bad guy? Ik he is in talon now, but he seems like such a chiller
iron plume
well, we don't know really
he might be in talon against his will, he might still be confused and unaware of where he is
from what we've seen he's not like
on board with what talon is doing
cosmic arch
so hol up, is sigma like a bad guy? Ik he is in talon now, but he seems like suc...
I think he’s supposed to have gone mad and is unaware that talon is using him and his research
pale loom
And 24 + 76 = 100
i've thought this since like forever
pale loom
he has brain damage
yep
peak escarp
making Reyes' soldier number the counterpart to Jack's is yet another way they've made them as complete opposites
silver oriole
I'm disappointed I hadn't noticed this.
I would love to see a fight between Gabe and Jack, like, not physical(I mean, that could be part of it, but I don't really care), I just want to see them interact.
They were best friends, and now they're each other's greatest enemies.
peak escarp
I'm confident that their final confrontation will get covered in a novel or a short at some point
pale loom
plot twist: ending to ow2
worthy rose
Really hope It does but I don't think Soldier can beat Reaper
Unless he has plot armor
chilly perch
Reaper's condition leaves alot of opportunities for writers to decide semi random weaknesses so I wouldn't call it off
sharp pebble
plot twist: ending to ow2
Double plot twist: meis behind it all
peak escarp
that wouldn't make any sense
limpid agate
!!shitposting @sharp pebble
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silver oriole
I'm confident that their final confrontation will get covered in a novel or a sh...
I'd be quite disappointed if it didn't.
Actually, speaking of novels, wouldn't it be interesting to get one focused on some character during the Omnic Crisis?
peak escarp
I'd love that
solar bridge
An actual backstory on bastion would be nice
peak escarp
what do you mean? we have Bastion's backstory
solar bridge
like more in detail
we know he was in Eichenwalde
but was he in a different battle?
or only in that one?
peak escarp
Bastion was dropped in the Black Forest, its capsule failed to open, so it stayed dormant for 15 years until Ganymede woke it up
solar bridge
so it didnt do anything then
peak escarp
Bastion never saw battle during the crisis
sharp pebble
That got deleted too
sage valve
That’s really interesting
ashen oriole
what is the comic after london calling or do we not know?
peak escarp
we don't know what the next comic will be
the next thing we know about is the novel Deadlock Rebels, coming June 1st
ashen oriole
okay
sage valve
Sounds good
fresh yarrow
Do we know how zen flys or is it just magic lmao
cosmic crest
Hovering cars are common place so it's not really out of the question that he has some sort of anti-grav tech.
limpid agate
Do we know how zen flys or is it just magic lmao
Its not magic
Tech floating in Overwatch isn't that special
fresh yarrow
Its not magic
I know I was making a joke about that but he doesn’t have any little boosters or thrusters or anything
Well maybe under his trousers
real kettle
peak escarp
he was an astrophysicist who tried to control a black hole, failed, and ended up with gravity powers and mild brain damage
dapper kayak
so magic does exist in the ow universe to some extent
peak escarp
no
iron plume
It's handwavium-based science, but it is science
cursive arrow
so, sigma can basically turn projectiles (matter) into shields, but shields are just energy, so he can turn matter directly into energy, is that why he was trying to harness the power of black holes in the first place?
wait, how did talon find out about sigma and his location?
cursive arrow
that would make sense
rugged carbon
There was a dev commentary where they said that Winston was based off of the scientist guy from Despicable Me.
This guy.
cursive arrow
given his power and being unstable in the head
covert echo
Are humans multi-planetary, or is the moon the farthest they got in universe?
peak escarp
as far as we know, just the moon
cosmic crest
I'd imagine there have been maned missions to Mars and such by the time the game takes place, but as far as colonisation goes, almost certainly not further than the moon.
muted quarry
Well, after the gorillas taking over the moon, wouldn't humanity as a whole be a little nervous about that?
Space exploration, I mean
median frigate
Just don’t take monke next time
cosmic crest
I don't see how the gorillas taking over Horizon would make people nervous about space exploration.
You'd think it would make them nervous about genetic alteration if anything.
muted quarry
What if people think that space exploration is "cursed?" That's the real thing. What if they take something elsewhere and they take over
cosmic crest
That'd be silly.
muted quarry
Yea, but then again, there are silly beliefs in the world today...
tulip tulip
Overwatch has lore?? 😂😂😂
muted quarry
BRUH
peak escarp
!!shitposting @tulip tulip
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broken oyster
his toes so stinky it makes him float
That is disgusting!
tulip tulip
I-
limpid agate
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limpid agate
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snow star
wasn't Sigma on the moon as well?
There is a voiceline between (or was when sigma came out) him and Winston where they talk about Dr. Winston
limpid agate
Maybe not the moon
But he was on a space station when he was mind broken
And did know Dr. Winston
Its possible they both know eachother from Lucheng
The company that is responsible for both interstellar prospects, the Moon and the space station
lapis ermine
doesn't he have a line on horizon lunar colony saying something like "I never thought i'd be back here"
limpid agate
In space, yes
snow star
or he was at that space station and after the incident he got shipped to the moon for further transportation?
muted quarry
He was at mun
iron plume
He wasn't at the moon
oblique juniper
so after looking at hanzo's page on the overwatch wiki, it says in the trivia that the dragons are not magical like people believe so what are they? has that been properly explained anywhere?
sharp comet
It hasn't been officially explained yet but the common theory is that they might be a form of hardlight tech
oblique juniper
It hasn't been officially explained yet but the common theory is that they might...
okay thank you very much. i hope there is more lore soon :3
iron plume
We're pretty unlikely to get an explanation
oblique juniper
one can always hope i guess 😅
nimble lagoon
so wait if Hanzo's dragons are said too be hard light tech wouldn't genji make it more likely since hes a literal cyborg who probably has access too things like that?
and if it is just hard light tech/holographic the dragons don't hurt you the arrow does
so
the shimada brothers have fake dragons?
cursive arrow
wait,if their hardlight, then why can they pass through walls?
finite urchin
wait,if their hardlight, then why can they pass through walls?
Bc overwatch is the future bruh
We have no idea, it’s some science fuckery going on
spark parcel
Shields and stuff can also go through walls, so it probably works the same way they do
young knoll
I would assume the idea behind the science fuckery is that slow moving objects pass through and high velocity objects do not
hence why you can walk through a shield but bullets and lasers and shit don't go through
the shield can work through walls because the walls aren't moving pretty much, if I had to hazard a guess, but that may just be the gameplay, I don't recall if the hardlight ignores walls in the canon material
uneven plover
the dragons are hardlight tech? didnt hanzo say something like "only a shimada can control the dragons"?
limpid agate
Hanzo says lots of things
They are most likely hard light tech given their appearance and behaviour
But it never has been officially confirmed
uneven plover
thats true. it wouldn't make any sense for him to say that if they are hardlight. but as you said, hanzo talks a lot i guess
limpid agate
He always talks about the dragons as if they are alive.
To contrast, Genji doesn't really.
He is very much a traditionalist kinda guy
uneven plover
yeah thats a good point
lyric sluice
isnt echo for canon just like skill related
like she learns how to pilot, be medical etc.
she can't like actually transform right
peak escarp
correct
timid eagle
Sometimes it stinks that the in-game abilities don't always line up to their other media counterparts.
But it is what it is, unfortunately.
blissful elm
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median frigate
Thanks
blissful elm
No prob
nimble lagoon
just look at Symmetra's photon projector
now i see ok
spark parcel
What if the power for hanzo’s dragons (assuming they are hard light projections) comes from tech in the bow, and the words he says are voice authentication? Then he would be telling the truth when he says only a shimada can control the dragons because it would only take voice commands from them.
dreamy yacht
hhnkhhhhnk
silver oriole
What if the power for hanzo’s dragons (assuming they are hard light projections)...
That actually makes a lot of sense...
gentle thicket
where does it says that the dragons are hard light?
silver oriole
Yeah, lots of the stuff about how abilities work is mostly theories.
gentle thicket
i main hanzo but i do believe its magic
or is that busted?
silver oriole
i main hanzo but i do believe its magic
It's confirmed to not be magic.
worthy rose
F
gentle thicket
oh ok
worthy rose
It's confirmed to not be magic.
where and how
silver oriole
There is no magic in Overwatch, according to the devs.
gentle thicket
but i mean not magic
worthy rose
ah
silver oriole
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle thicket
gentle thicket
not really
like if theyre real like hanzos and genjis dragon
theyre not magic
also theres the prophecy of the dragons
peak escarp
what
peak escarp
no
gentle thicket
like the story between the 2 dragons
peak escarp
it's a fairytail their father told them
peak escarp
it's a narrative parallel, not a prophecy
gentle thicket
yeah
idk
didnt mean prophecy
but i mean even its a fairy tale
it was true i guess
gentle thicket
but do u think genji and hanzo know the dragons are light?
peak escarp
it's a metaphor
gentle thicket
but do u think genji and hanzo know the dragons are light?
what about this
peak escarp
I don't think they know how it works
but they're smart enough to know it isn't magic
silver oriole
but do u think genji and hanzo know the dragons are light?
I'd guess they do.
I mean, it makes sense that they would know how it works?
gentle thicket
but do the know it IS hard light?
gentle thicket
I'd guess they do.
I mean, it makes sense that they would know how it works?
yeah
but wow
that changes some things
how did they got the tech?
silver oriole
We don't know.
It's pretty mysterious.
Maybe if they get a novel or a short story or sumn in the future, we'll find out.
gentle thicket
i hope we do
tribal plume
I don't really know if this classifies as lore (so I will delete this if it isn't) but do we know if there will be Talon missions in Ow2 yet?
peak escarp
I don't really know if this classifies as lore (so I will delete this if it isn'...
I believe one of the devs confirmed there would be, but I'm not sure of the source
peak escarp
how did they got the tech?
from the Shimada family, who probably has engineers/scientists working for them
tribal plume
I believe one of the devs confirmed there would be, but I'm not sure of the sour...
Yeah I thought I saw something on it that wasn't in English but I couldn't remember. Thank you. :)
peak escarp
I believe it came from Renaud Galand in a stream he did in French
near smelt
oooooh that's exciting, I can't wait for that
peak escarp
I don't understand French, so I can't verify
finite urchin
there isn't literally a dragon who became a human
mc cock means that the plot of the story is basically what happens
peak escarp
excuse me?
tribal plume
How do Bap and Mercy know each other? From before the recall n stuff.
peak escarp
they met during a humanitarian mission in Venezuela
the Overwatch agents. Their real names, their call signs, their vital stats. He turned the globe with one finger, reading the files. He spotted a familiar face hovering over the Middle East: a blonde woman he had met at a humanitarian aid site in Venezuela. They had worked together for almost a week before he’d had to move on.
There was something about her calm, steady demeanor and self-assurance that reminded him of Roseline.```is soldier 76 really gay?
peak escarp
is soldier 76 really gay?
yes
peak escarp
can i see proof??
Twitter
worthy rose
do they kiss? muah 😫 🥶
peak escarp
that is what lovers tend to do
worthy rose
xD im just joshing, but hmm, interesting.
peak escarp
it's mostly irrelevant - it was just to show that Jack was so committed to his job that he didn't have time for personal relationships
while Ana had Sam, and Gabe had his family
peak escarp
it was mentioned in passing in Bastet
and we see Reaper creeping on a family in Retribution (and the family is confirmed to be "not some random family")
near smelt
I see, thank you
peak escarp
they're likely his son or daughter with their spouse and child
or possibly his ex-wife with her new husband and son, but I'd expect her to be older
broken oyster
Dude...
trim ruin
is soldier 76 really gay?
Yeah, but i wish overwatch established it at the beginning, instead of later on just for fan service
peak escarp
we don't know every single detail about every hero right at launch
cosmic crest
Why would they need to establish it?
peak escarp
some of it gets revealed naturally through the story
we didn't know Brigitte was Torbjorn's daughter when she first appeared in Dragon Slayer
trim ruin
Damn, i must’ve triggered a nerve, huh
peak escarp
I'm just tired of people giving those complaints
trim ruin
Not everything said is directed to you
peak escarp
then reply to the person you're talking to
peak escarp
you spoke after me, therefore I assumed you were talking about me
trim ruin
just go look at my first comment, and we can be done with this
peak escarp
I'm not referring to that
urban sundial
hey everyone settle down okay?
finite urchin
^ yall just move on now
peak escarp
we have
worn heart
Is this Soldier 76’s Ex? Or is this man a completely different person?
hushed jetty
worn heart
True, I kinda think she looks similar to Reaper (Before the experiments)
Either way, Overwatch 2 will probably expand on everything and everyone in the comic.
peak escarp
maybe
limpid agate
!!shitposting @sour raven
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worthy rose
so guys i bought the anthology
so basically symmetra was an asshole
canonically
with the whole vishkar/calado thing
peak escarp
it wasn't her fault, it was her boss's
worthy rose
mh
you are right
does symmetra fight against her boss or nah after it? i need to know but i cannot read the anthology right now
peak escarp
no
she still thinks they're doing the right thing, but her faith will probably be trusted in the future
peak escarp
she also doesn't know her boss secretly works for Talon
when she finds that out, she'd probably quit
runic sigil
The seeds of doubt have been planted and she's shown different ways of doing things. Keep in mind that she's been told that what they are doing is the right thing from a young age. It can be hard to let go of that idea, certainly if your brain is wired to like the idea of order in the world.
What I don't get is, if they work for Talon. Shouldn't they be more in favour of chaos instead of order? I thought Talon's whole deal was to create chaos.
limpid agate
Sanjay is on the Talon council
We do not know how far up the ladder Sanjay is
Just that he is her direct superior
cosmic crest
I still want to know if the higher ups at Vishkar are knowingly working with Talon or if they are unaware that Talon is corrupting their company from the inside.
tribal plume
Same, I think it would be interesting to know what their motivation would be if they are. It is possible Sanjay is doing this by himself, though.
Still, I wonder what his motivation would be.
tribal plume
Doomfist, who leads Talon, wants to start a war because he thinks conflict makes people evolve.
I’m pretty sure he’s teamed up with Null Sector.
Not sure if that’s confirmed but it was at the end of Storm Rising.
tribal plume
Like yeah "talon bad" but why do they do what they do
So, mass destruction basically.
gentle thicket
it could be the woman who is important
excuse me, what woman?
spark parcel
The woman in the picture
runic sigil
So, mass destruction basically.
I doubt they wants mass destruction, for an example take Doomfist, he wants constant conflict and a certain amount of destruction all the time. But since he does want to use that conflict to make people grow stronger, he surely doesn't want the scale of the destruction be on the scale where everything gets destroyed.
Also not sure, but are we certain Doomfist is in charge of Talon, I thought he was just someone really high up.
cosmic crest
Talon doesn't have a single leader, they have an overseer council, of which Doomfist, Reaper and Moira are all a part of.
tribal plume
Yeah, but Doomfist has a very fixed philosophy, which is why I was focusing on him alone.
Also I worded that incorrectly, I meant more along the lines of “global destruction”, not necessarily leaving a certain area in ruins or anything.
peak escarp
excuse me, what woman?
the woman in the picture - she could be Reyes' daughter
or ex-wife
worthy rose
Unless Reaper is gay
hazy ibex
i think its confirmed that reyes had a wife
worthy rose
If we’re going by the theory that the way they look is their sexuality
Yeah
Reaper could be bisexual
peak escarp
we're not
Reyes is likely to be straight because Morrison is gay
and they're made to be opposites
worthy rose
You do have a point
runic sigil
And now he has a Widowmaker. Appropriate
I am curious if they'll do more with the lore of talon in general though
Like Widow and Sombra to me seem to be the most interesting storylines
peak escarp
they do appear in the OW2 story
runic sigil
I don't think they made it clear what Sombra is after at all
peak escarp
peak escarp
I don't think they made it clear what Sombra is after at all
Sombra wants to find out who runs the world (and probably take their place)
iron plume
once more, don't feed the trolls
slim heron
In reaper's ultimate, the animation shows more than two arms at some points
do you guys think this is just a regular old blur frame or is reaper forming several new arms to maximize damage?
raven sequoia
Most probably the second one
chilly perch
I always thought he was just doing the whole spinning and shooting really fast so it looks blurry
dire zephyr
Mcree tho
peak escarp
In reaper's ultimate, the animation shows more than two arms at some points
do y...
it's just blur frames
worthy rose
I think he's creating afterimages because he's moving so fast
hazy kiln
it's just blur frames
Agreed. If you watch the first animated short, it’s very clear he’s only firing two guns.
hazy kiln
But the first short also has him throwing grenades similar to junk rat.
fluid glen
hol up, was junkrat raised by roadhog? or did they just like randomly meet
iron plume
No, he wasn't raised by him
muted quarry
Nope
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iron plume
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dire zephyr
HOW THE HECK DOES SOMBRA HACK PEOPLE?
cosmic crest
She has a device on her hand as well as cybernetic implants that let her interact with and hack technology
cosmic crest
They are using technology aren't they?
As for abilities like McCree's roll and Soldier's sprint, you can write that off as just gameplay.
median frigate
How does orisa’s gun work exactly
Like you suck green stuff outa the air and boom machine gun
cosmic crest
It's not explained.
But I assume it's taking in air from the atmosphere when it reloads.
And the name "Fusion Driver" makes me think it uses nuclear fusion in some way.
Actually, it might of been talked about in more detail in Hero of Numbani, but I haven't read it myself.
median frigate
Ohh ok thank you
dire zephyr
Well does tracers gun do that aswel?
cosmic crest
I always assumed Tracer's guns do the opposite, they vent heat out into the atmosphere.
I think it was mentioned in the visual source book that they are "linked to the chronal accelerator"
Implying she is recalling the energy back into them.
But that doesn't really make much sense to me since Tracer hasn't really been shown to be able to manipulate the time of other objects before, only herself.
I also question how she is able to recall energy that has already been spent, but I suppose Tracer as a whole is a slap to the face of physics anyway.
cursive arrow
can someone explain to me how orisa's reloading works, like, is there just green energy smoke floating around in the air, just waiting to be sucked up.
peak escarp
I don't think there is an explanation
cursive arrow
we might not get an answer due to it being not really an important question
iron plume
Since it’s a “fusion driver”, it might not actually be reloading
Just cooling down whatever powers it
worthy rose
Hey hey all, come I ask? What exactly happened in the storm rising even in the game event? And who was the robot in the end ?
iron plume
The robot is Maximillien, one of the Talon leaders
What happened is the strike team came after him so they could get information on Doomfist
oh at the end nbm
that's almost definitely the null sector leader, though that's unconfirmed
jaunty crown
can someone explain to me how orisa's reloading works, like, is there just green...
might as well ask how doom's or echo's reloading works too
all of them are energy pellets so they work differently from regular bullets
but i guess its for gameplay purposes
worthy rose
Now I have to ask... null sector isn’t a different organisation than taking ?
Tho it seems that the colours the final robot has are similar to null sector which is interesting
But how could those two factions work together ? One wants robot supremacy and the other just wants chaos... kinda the opposite goals 😅
tribal plume
Now I have to ask... null sector isn’t a different organisation than taking ?
I'm guessing you meant to say Talon? I'm sure Doomfist struck some sort of a deal with the Null Sector at the end of Storm Rising (for simplicity I'm gonna call him Null Hector). As we can see in Ow2 Null Sectors are the main enemies for the story modes, so we can assume some sort of deal has been made.
Doomfist believes that "Only through conflict do we evolve", so if he allows Null Hector and his forces to do their thing, he's basically getting what he wants.
worthy rose
True that.... also I wanted to say talon earlier but autocorrect killed me haha. I can’t wait for ow2 since null sector is actually a great evil organisation
Tho I want to see the evil Korean robots as well in ow2 , maybe in events ?
iron plume
From what we know, you can't say NS wants robot supremacy, exactly
They definitely want to take over somewhere, but that doesn't go against the Talon plans
Essentially, even if their end goals are not the same, they align for now
worthy rose
Oh I see...
tribal plume
Tho I want to see the evil Korean robots as well in ow2 , maybe in events ?
I actually really like those as well, I find them interesting. I want them to touch on it more but because we see D.va join the Overwatch 2 cast I doubt they will play a part.
worthy rose
In ow2 if the world comes into chaos because new sector and talon union, the Korean robots shouldn’t use the opportunity and attack as well ? I personally believe they will match in events, like the kaiju movies
tribal plume
I don't specifically remember if the Gwishin omnics have any sort of motivation to what they're doing, so it's hard to say. Without D.va (which seems to be the best of her team) I think they definitely will wreak havoc without her in Busan.
worthy rose
I think their goal is just to destroy and kill all humans. They are like the extreme version of null sector
So because we don’t know much about them, I believe they will be the biggest threat
tribal plume
I mean, obviously that's what they're doing, but I don't know if they have a reason for that or if they simply just do it because of some other force.
Also, I don't think they've attacked anywhere else but Busan. So I don't know if they would necessarily be a threat to any place but Busan. You'd think if they just wanted to kill they'd go somewhere else that didn't have these defenders, right?
worthy rose
True... I didn’t think of this, maybe they have a base under the sea?
tribal plume
That sounds right, but I can't remember if something like that is confirmed. I don't remember much about D.va lore compared to other characters.
worthy rose
So taking over busan would be the best geographically and strategically ? That means that the mind of the bee hive will be an intellectual one
tribal plume
That is a fair point.
worthy rose
That sounds right, but I can't remember if something like that is confirmed. I d...
Same here... I don’t remember much either about dva‘s lore.. tho I did notice those robots especially the small ones are like brainless armies, all they did in their battle with dva was to attack without end
So they are the pieces and not actually soldiers
tribal plume
Yeah, and their main goal was to get to the mainland.
worthy rose
It is interesting tho...
tribal plume
Yeah, Overwatch does a great job and making things just vague enough.
worthy rose
What other organisations exist out there? So far we have talon, null sector, korean robots and the shimada clan
At least those are the ones I know
tribal plume
Vishkar is another one,
worthy rose
What are those ?
tribal plume
Vishkar is an organization based in India. It's where Sym and her immediate supervisor (it seems) Sanjay work.
worthy rose
Do they have something special? Null sector is full of nazi robots for example, talon just wants conflict so they have both humans and robots
tribal plume
LumériCo and Oasis are some other ones.
Uh, I mean Vishkar is more of a corporation. They would make "self-sustaining cities" after the Omnic Crisis for India.
worthy rose
So I see... that is interesting ngl. I truly like that concept
tribal plume
Yeah, you can read more about it in the Sym comics/short stories.
worthy rose
I will xD overwatch has some amazing lore !
Also when it comes to shimada clan, who is the current leader ?
worthy rose
Could the two brothers have another sibling? Because personally I would like as a story to have a younger half-sister
Like azula from avatar
tribal plume
As we know from the note about the Kanezaka Kitsune Girl, I believe some of it or all of it was taken over by another clan.
tribal plume
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23608156/correspondence-post-for-toshiro-yamagami/
When the new map Kanezaka launched, Overwatch released this.
worthy rose
Since blizzard cares about representation, having a girl from Japan would be a smart move
When did this got released ?
iron plume
If we're going solely by representation, we've got a lot of places to go through before getting a third Japanese hero
tribal plume
It's very long, but here's an exert-
But where the Shimada gave, the Hashimoto take. After all, when one has many homes, one has none—and the Hashimoto clan claws at nearly every city in this nation. We are nothing special to them; one day they will drink us dry and move on, leaving us empty and broken. Even now, some twelve years on, I see the mark they have left on our city.
iron plume
But that aside, she might be an intereting character
Asa even more so, but still
tribal plume
Agreed.
tribal plume
When did this got released ?
A few months ago
worthy rose
Then it could be a potential threat
iron plume
And yeah, basically no one leads the Shimadas, they've been dispersed/taken over
iron plume
What other organisations exist out there? So far we have talon, null sector, kor...
Helix Security is the big other one
worthy rose
So shimadas are no more.. a new organisation takes over many cities... and the kitsune girl
Yeah we have a new villain getting teased xD
tribal plume
Oh true, I forgot about Helix Security.
iron plume
It's the private military company Pharah works for that handles peacekeeping tasks after Overwatch was disbanded
They're... not great, at least if you believe Mercy
iron plume
Yeah we have a new villain getting teased xD
why would it be a villain
worthy rose
It’s like... the new organisation takes cities and shimada got wrecked by them..
I don’t think they will be a good one
tribal plume
I mean, I don't really think they're "evil", I think that's just how it goes for them.
worthy rose
Also genji and hanzo don’t have any enemies
iron plume
As the organization in general? alright
And yeah, "just how it goes" doesn't mean they're not evil
worthy rose
If the Kitsune girl was something like a heir... she would want the heads of the potential leaders of the shimada clan
iron plume
The kitsune is not an heir
worthy rose
It’s like evil organisations in Japan... all fall under the name yakuza but are different
worthy rose
The kitsune is not an heir
Then what is she? 😅
iron plume
She's... not a heir, there's not really a replacement
Her mother was not part of the clan's bloodline
She just worked for them
worthy rose
Oh I see...
worthy rose
It’s like the honour...
iron plume
If anything, I can see the Kitsune girl working with Hanzo to bring down the Hashimotos
The honor of killing your kin?
iron plume
She's not. I was responding to your hypothetical
tribal plume
Couldn't the kitsune person be the mother or daughter? I just wanted to double check.
worthy rose
Interesting 🤔...
iron plume
But we don't know, like
how much she's actually tied to it
tribal plume
True
iron plume
She might be a fox handler, she might have some magic totally scientific spirit powers
Might just be something spiritual for her
worthy rose
If she is a fox bender (yes it is a thing 😂)... it means she belongs to a different family
Like hanzo and genji have the shimada blood and the dragons? Idk... seems weird if we try to decode this
tribal plume
I don't think they're related at all, the kitsune girl and the two brothers.
worthy rose
Could the kitsune girl be a part of the new Japanese organisation
worthy rose
I don't think they're related at all, the kitsune girl and the two brothers.
They surely aren’t related
Different animals
worthy rose
The brothers have dragons and that was the symbol of their clan..
Could the new clan is focused around the fox ? The one who took over many cities ?
iron plume
The girl is not a Hashimoto
Read the post linked above if you plan to speculate further
tribal plume
You should read the entire letter, it details a lot.
iron plume
Her daughter might be in the ranks because they've taken over the entire city
But she's not part of the clan
And the fox spirit thing comes from her mother, who was there before them
tribal plume
Thanks for all the help so far xD
You're good, I've got nothing better to do in my life other than talk about Overwatch lore.
worthy rose
I am so sorry to hear 🥺... at least you are truly helpful xD
tribal plume
Lmao, yeah. I find Overwatch lore really interesting for no reason.
worthy rose
Same with me. I generally love game lores and blizzard has been one of the best
Ow is best more around a futuristic reality which makes it interesting
peak escarp
the Fox Hero could be Asa Yamagami, the woman who wrote the letter to her husband (and was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster), or it could be her daughter, who we know nothing about
jaunty crown
she could be from a opposing clan for the shimada clan
peak escarp
if the letter was meant to be a teaser for a future hero, then it would make sense to be one of them
jaunty crown
what else could the letter be if it wasnt a new hero
they did it for echo,ana,sombra
probably more that i forgot about
peak escarp
it was also a teaser for the Kanezaka map
like the teasers we got for Paris and Horizon
hero teasers are released days before the hero is revealed - we didn't get a hero reveal after the Kanezaka letter
but we did get the map the next day
jaunty crown
was the letter the only teaser for kanezaka
peak escarp
yes
runic sigil
The map wasn't a planned thing so it is possible that the lore bits were a bit rushed for the teaser to come out. Would make sense to tie it to some future heroes though. But can also see it entirely possible that they just made up some characters with the thought of figuring out heroes for them later if they need to. They do that a lot where they introduce characters and if the community likes them they'll tie in a hero they're working on to that character.
peak escarp
there were some character silhouettes shown to Game Informer at Blizzcon 2019 which included a female character with a fox and a bladed weapon
this teaser contains a female character with a bladed weapon and a connection to foxes
definitely an intentional hint towards that character
near smelt
Apologies if this isn't the right place but the shoulder on Junkrats "King Jamison" has a bunch of letters on it, do they stand for anything meaningful?
near smelt
Ohhh I see, thank you!
trim ruin
what does BAMF mean?
worthy rose
what does BAMF mean?
Banging A Mother Fucker
trim ruin
Ah yes, as it should
timid eagle
Ah yes, as it should
It also varies from McCree's other skins, as SAMF (for his Lifeguard skin) means Sexy Mass Mother Trucker or Safety Mass Mother Trucker.
peak escarp
what does BAMF mean?
Bad Ass Mother Fucker
trim ruin
Im gonna assume that its lore
finite urchin
what does BAMF mean?
Bears Ate My Food
peak escarp
!!shitposting @finite urchin
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peak escarp
theirs was close enough to the actual answer that I assume they were giving a legit answer
peak escarp
that's still wrong and you know it
finite urchin
but! but close enough
peak escarp
no
finite urchin
:(
peak escarp
it's unclear
finite urchin
i see, so the unclear stuff go there
peak escarp
I put it after because Lucio says he's working with some "new friends" and I'm assuming those new friends are Overwatch
but I could be wrong
finite urchin
okay but wasn't it implied that he stole it
i thought those friends meant his ppl back in rio
who stole from vishkar
or something like that
peak escarp
Lúcio shrugged, then shoved the supercharger components back into the case. There were still several parts left over, but he didn’t seem concerned. “I’ve been hanging with a new crowd lately, one looking to do something to help fix our world. I’m honestly not sure where they got it, but I know Katya Volskaya’s tech doesn’t usually come cheap or easy. And Orisa, if anyone asks—”
now that we know Zarya is also working with them, Lucio having access to a tobelstein reactor through them isn't that unlikely
peak escarp
that timeline is subject to change if we get new information that helps clarify things
limpid agate
but I could be wrong
Pretty sure that's wrong
Based on the timelining in Hero of Numbani
It sounds like that it takes place before Zero Hour
peak escarp
why?
the Hero of Numbani timeline, as near as I can figure
Lucio's visit happens around late April/early May
I estimate Zero Hour happens in late March, based on when Echo is rescued (assuming she goes straight to Paris)
limpid agate
How much time passed between the concert and the epilogue
Because that implies that:
- Lucio leaves the current Null Sector battle to go throw a concert in Numbani
- Then has Orisa come back months later to help
And also, the Null Sector conflict is completely unmentioned
peak escarp
hmm
limpid agate
Your theory suggests that the Overwatch 2 campaign would last months upon months with Lucio actively leaving to do nothing, but also Doomfist actively leaving to just fuck with Numbani.
peak escarp
I just copied out the timeline as the book presents it - every few chapters the number of passing weeks are mentioned
the author might have gotten the timeline wrong
or didn't know the greater timeline
limpid agate
I think those friends aren't Overwatch
peak escarp
that's possible
then the Rio attack would happen after the events of Hero of Numbani
limpid agate
Which I think is more likely.
peak escarp
the OW2 campaign could last months
and in the Behind the Scenes panel they talked about rearranging the order of events, so nothing in the timeline related to OW2 has been finalized
that does leave the question of who his new friends are
and if they'll show up in the game
trim ruin
Is there a reason Sigma doesnt wear shoes (if so, its probably because it makes him feel free)
peak escarp
because he was quarantined in a facility where they took away his shoes
(design-wise it is to give him a more deranged look)
trim ruin
Hey i like it, and im also gonna go with what i said because shoes, like gravity, is just a harness
runic sigil
Could Lucio hang out in the same friend group as Sombra? We still don't know Sombra's true allegiance at this point and she would have access to Volskaya’s tech. If the new crowd would be Overwatch, I wonder how they'd get their hands on the technology. I didn't get the feeling Volskaya is in the habit of giving stuff away.
feral musk
Yeah
peak escarp
Could Lucio hang out in the same friend group as Sombra? We still don't know Som...
I thought that since Zarya works with Overwatch in OW2, they could access the tech through her
lyric sluice
the Hero of Numbani timeline, as near as I can figure
why does orisa hurt one of her classmates
were they bulling her
also when was echos first mission
it sounds like she had helped b4
peak escarp
they were doing a play about Numbani, and one of the students was playing Doomfist in the play
lyric sluice
ohhhhhh
peak escarp
Orisa thought it was the real Doomfist and attacked
lmao
peak escarp
you mean Uprising?
we don't know when Echo's first mission was, or when she was deactivated
lyric sluice
idk any mission kinda dissapointed when no new archives was out just wondering if she could have been in any of the current ones
and oh rip
also RIP THE CINEMATIC APRIL PASSED
THEY LIED TO US DOC
well almost passed
peak escarp
what
they didn't say there would be a cinematic
Jeff said there might be some OW2 news in March/April
but with his sudden departure, I think that plan has changed
peak escarp
why would it be delayed?
if anything, a change in leadership could accelerate the release
peak escarp
OW2 is not coming out this year
peak escarp
I have no idea
lyric sluice
oh lol
lyric sluice
same
also remember how they said during blizzcon theres like an intro and an outro for each mission for ow2 are they going to be like archives -quality or closer to cinematic quality
peak escarp
at least we have another novel to look forward to
peak escarp
also remember how they said during blizzcon theres like an intro and an outro fo...
archives quality
peak escarp
whats it abt
it's called Deadlock Rebels, and it's about Ashe and McCree starting the Deadlock Gang
lyric sluice
it's called Deadlock Rebels, and it's about Ashe and McCree starting the Deadloc...
oh nice
more lore yay'
peak escarp
Archives-quality cutscenes are still pretty good
peak escarp
and they've improved a lot since the first ones
lyric sluice
oh yeahhh they said something abt a new engine
wait
dsoes that have anything to do with the quality
pastel dust
Oooo I haven't seen Mcree's new look in OW2, he looks good
Same as Rein
I gotta say, my favorite part about Overwatch is the lore
Not a lot of video games do that
And I know it's supposed to promote the game, but they could have made it terrible.
Instead, they wrote full on novels, comics, cinamatic shorts, backstory shorts, all these voicelines and skins, it's amazing tbh
Mods, if you see this, do know that there is so many people who love what you're doing and what you have done, and will continue to do so. The hateful people on social media are always the loudest when it comes to comments, and all of that. I've loved all of these new skins, and I'm excited to see what comes next in the Aniversary event. Love what you do!
trim ruin
I think you’re confused
peak escarp
the mods here aren't devs
trim ruin
Yeah...
finite urchin
Mods, if you see this, do know that there is *so many people* who love what you'...
Might I suggest that you put this on the subreddit itself? Not the discord for it
finite urchin
holyyyy mccree's cape looks so bright
bronze folio
Hold up
If it's a new engine, how will cosmetics and rank crossover?
And will there be crossplay between games?
iron plume
It's an updated engine rather than a completely new one
and OW1 will be upgraded into it
bold plinth
I think Sojourn and Reinhardt will be arguing a lot in OW2, and she may be part of the people who kicked him out of Overwatch.
finite urchin
speaking of which, why was reinhardt fired again?
i heard he was the scapegoat for the null sector attacks in king's row
bold plinth
We don't know yet...
peak escarp
the public reason is that he was too old
but there's a different reason that the public doesn't know about - something went wrong on a mission involving Reinhardt
bold plinth
Probably because he didn't follow the orders during a mission? He let a target escape to save someone in danger or something like that maybe?
peak escarp
maybe
finite urchin
that...seems the most likely
after all, he looks up to baldreich whatever his name was
also it's definitely not bc he's too old since ana, jack, morrison, torbjorn, and he are around the same age after all
bold plinth
Balderich yeah
Yeah, and I think there's a voiceline between Sombra and Brig that hints the real reason
worthy rose
which one are you talking about?
peak escarp
whatever it is, everyone seemed sad about it
finite urchin
"reinhardt never told you the real reason he was fired" or smth right?
i remember a quote like that
peak escarp
yeah
finite urchin
ok
peak escarp
bold plinth
Sombra: you know, I've seen Reinhardt's overwatch file.
Brigitte: What are you getting at?
Sombra: I wonder if he's really told you the truth about his retirement...
Oh thanks lol
peak escarp
it seems likely that Reinhardt's actions led to someone (or Reinhardt himself) getting hurt, and that's why he was forced to retire
bold plinth
Probably
But I don't see him re-doing the same mistake as in Eichenwalde
Idk if I can post a screenshot from the Blizzconline here, but Reinhardt seems to argue with Sojourn
peak escarp
he does
they probably argue over what to do
they're the two most senior members of Overwatch, after all
worthy rose
she seems to be close to him despite arguing
bold plinth
Yes thanks
He must say that they should go and she's restraining him
Follow the order or jump in
peak escarp
it would make more sense for Sojourn to lead
since she was a captain, and that mission is in Toronto, her hometown
peak escarp
after Ana, yeah
bold plinth
Yeah, but Reinhardt was here before/same time as Sojourn
arctic loom
turns into a cannon
bold plinth
Yes her whole body I think
peak escarp
yes, she's a cyborg
peak escarp
Yeah, but Reinhardt was here before/same time as Sojourn
Reinhardt wasn't a captain though - he was only a lieutenant
bold plinth
Reinhardt wasn't a captain though - he was only a lieutenant
Yes but idk, feels weird for her to come back after Reinhardt and still give the orders, she probably didn't even joined back Overwatch in this scene
arctic loom
i thought winston was the leader
peak escarp
Winston launched the Recall, but he's not much of a leader
even Tracer has more experience than him
bold plinth
Yes but she was the leader of the squad in Stormrising
Soldier has an interaction with Winston where he says "think you can do my job, do you?!"
peak escarp
we'll have to wait and see how the new leadership of Overwatch plays out, but I still don't think Winston will be the new commander
bold plinth
Maybe Sojourn will take the lead when she'll be back yeah
arctic loom
i remember showed on blizzcon a scene on the metro
with a omnic hitting door
its maximilian?
or other omnic
peak escarp
not Max
arctic loom
oh so is a unknown omnic
bold plinth
Yes, a random omnic to save, probably just to show how civilians deal with this war, he won't be important
peak escarp
it was to show that they're adding NPCs to the game
ashen oriole
how old is sojourn anyways?
peak escarp
we don't know
but she was a member of Overwatch 20 years ago, so she's at least McCree's age
but she looks like she's in her 50s
finite urchin
what? i thought she looked young
peak escarp
she's in this group photo from 20 years ago - McCree and Mercy are 17 here, Fareeha is 12
near smelt
Who is that in the bottom left?
peak escarp
we don't know yet
near smelt
Oh, interesting
tardy glacier
im not sure if im hearing this right but i was playing retribution story and reyes mention someone, a talon member, dealing with business in Monaco. umm Does umn, anyone know about this person? And it isnt Max since his next line he talks about Max which wouldnt make sense to talk about someone dealing with business in Monaco and then talk about Max. And they mentioned a name about the business person in Monaco, does anyone know anything about this person?
peak escarp
Reyes: There's the one who will probably take over for him... Vialli. Don't know too much about him. Then Doomfist in Numbani. And an omnic who runs a casino in Monaco... Maximilien, or something.```he's talking about Maximilien
tardy glacier
oh, ugh.. im sorry, i got it mixed up. Vialli thats the person i was referring to
im sorry about that, do we know anything about this 'Vialli' person?
peak escarp
it is confirmed to be Vialli
tardy glacier
ah oki
i doubt you know the answer to this but i thought id just ask, is there a reason as to why Sanjay is in talon?
tardy glacier
ah oki i thought id just ask
he'd be a cool hero
along with umm.. that omnic guy in storm rising outro, they're really cool
peak escarp
yeah I want to learn more about him
tardy glacier
oh another question
peak escarp
tardy glacier
umm so, i dont know where this was or where i heard this and this couldve been a dream. But, i remember watching a video and, they said that that omnic person is Null Sector. Like, you know like how a gang or organization names itself after someone or something like.. the Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico which is named after the state Sinaloa. The same would apply to them, like there name is Null Sector and they named the group after them self. They have a voice at least, which is progress and possibly a model, although its unknown if that would be there character model tho
peak escarp
the community calls him Null Hector, but we don't know what his name is
peak escarp
they belonged to the same order of monks
tribal plume
Thanks!
hollow narwhal
I'm not sure if this is lore related or not, but ive been wondering, how did tracer and her girlfriend meet? is there a confirmed way that they met or was it not confirmed at all?
sly snow
How canon is transcendence?
peak escarp
it's a representation of Aurora's ascendance
I don't think it's something Zen can actually do
limpid agate
If it is, then its a likely application of hard light.