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#lore-discussion
worthy rose
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worthy rose
hmmm
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hmmm
worthy rose
hiii
finite urchin
Hi
half token
hallo
limpid agate
!!loreonly
twilit nacelleBOT
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
finite urchin
? I literally answered ur question
finite urchin
between him and some1 abt his lights
Bro
limpid agate
!!wiki Genji/Quotes
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Genji/Quotes
limpid agate
Lúcio: Hey Genji, how bout I hook up your lights to my music?
Genji: That is not what they are for.
Okay so the lights have a purpose?
iron plume
no
finite urchin
Nah it’s just genji being edgy
iron plume
It's a joke interaction
finite urchin
Yes, the lights are for looking cool @worthy rose
But for practicality he can turn them off
limpid agate
If they have a purpose, its unknown, but not a big deal
finite urchin
Yeah i was kinda confused there too
worthy rose
lemme search it up rq
oh
Some speculate its related to the dragons, which are commonly speculated to be made from Hard Light. Some speculate that it helps him see in the dark. ... Some speculate that it helps him see in the dark. Genji needs to eat more carrots```so nobody knows
yet
finite urchin
Whatever bro let’s stop stressing over something this small
ashen oriole
what's junkrat's treasure?
peak escarp
what's junkrat's treasure?
we don't know
its probably not something tangible, since his bio calls it "a valuable secret"
ashen oriole
okay
peak escarp
probably the answer to why/how the omniums woke back up after being shut down
hazy kiln
Junk and Hogs treasure are pachimaris.
frozen vine
Junk and Hogs treasure are pachimaris.
Wouldn’t put it past them, would make sense
Though Hanzo does say “You couldn’t have it on your person”
muted quarry
Junk and Hogs treasure are pachimaris.
Would be funny, but not likely
peak escarp
Hanzo assumes it's treasure, just like everyone else
misty portal
guys do u got something new about overwatch2
analog cargo
what is a nano
orchid wasp
dusky verge
what if the only reason Roadhog has the secret friend pachimari is because he smuggles/hides drugs in it...?
peak escarp
ehh
limpid agate
That doesn't make sense
He isn't a smuggler
He works in chaos and theft, not drugs
sinful cobalt
What's the story between Angela and Genji? From what I know, Genji was the second youngest son of Sojiro Shimada. The Shimada clan was a criminal empire. While Hanzo was prepared to take on the responsibilities of running a criminal organization, Genji was not and sought to pursue another path. Compelled by duty, Hanzo slayed his brother. Theories suggest that Hanzo was initially a swordsman and the weapon he is bowing before in the cinematic is the very blade he used against Genji, but I digress.
Hanzo leaves his brother for dead and abandons the empire, ashamed and sad. What's happening from then on? Genji somehow survives, perhaps stumbling out of the complex with sheer determination before what, coming into the care of Doctor Ziegler? Does anyone have more info on this?
limpid agate
Genji didn't take his studies seriously and was instead a playboy
Hanzo went to straighten him out
peak escarp
Overwatch already had surveillance on the Shimada clan - they had agents on the ground who could get Genji out quickly enough to save his life
sinful cobalt
Overwatch already had surveillance on the Shimada clan - they had agents on the ...
How do we know this?
peak escarp
they brought him to Dr. Zeigler so she could save his life
limpid agate
Hanzo then did end up "killing"him because of pressure from the elders. And it was with the sword, according to sources and implication
sinful cobalt
Hanzo then did end up "killing"him because of pressure from the elders. And it ...
Thought so.
peak escarp
How do we know this?
from Genji's bio: "The global security force saw Genji as a potential asset in its ongoing operations to combat the Shimada clan. "
ongoing operations is the important part here
sinful cobalt
I see, I see. So Overwatch had people surveilling or even on the grounds as miles and extracted Genji from the Shimada residence. He is brought to Doctor Ziegler who saves him from his grievous wounds. Was there anything mentioned why he decided to go full robot?
limpid agate
He was dismembered
peak escarp
dialogue during Retribution reveals that he was left unable to walk after his encounter with Hanzo
and he agreed to Overwatch's terms because he wanted to walk again
As Genji's injuries left him clinging to life, Overwatch offered to rebuild his body in exchange for his help.
limpid agate
He's missing an arm, and the ability to walk
sinful cobalt
He works with Overwatch for a couple years in the Blackwatch sub division until it's shut down, where he wanders until somehow coming into contact with Zenyatta. I'd like to imagine he was still quite impulsive and struggling with his emotions during this time and prior as evident by his behavior during retribution. Zenyatta assists Genj in finding inner peace. They eventually go there own ways. What happens next?
limpid agate
He was on the OW strike team between Retribution and him leaving
sinful cobalt
He works with Overwatch for a couple years in the Blackwatch sub division until ...
Presuming he helped break apart the Shimada empire as intended before being given other assignments and a change of scenery.
sinful cobalt
He was on the OW strike team between Retribution and him leaving
Strike team? Thought he was Blackwatch throughout his time.
limpid agate
He was on the strike team in Storm Rising and Doomfist Origins
He was also evidently on it for other missions too
peak escarp
Presuming he helped break apart the Shimada empire as intended before being give...
yes - there's evidence that Blackwatch took down the Shimada family around the time of Uprising
sinful cobalt
He was on the strike team in Storm Rising and Doomfist Origins
Isn't that after Retribution?
sinful cobalt
Gotcha, think I got his story. Any details on what happened to him after he left Zenyatta, if he even did?
peak escarp
he was with Zenyatta until he left to answer Winston's recall, as far as we know
limpid agate
- "Killed" by Hanzo
- Cyberized into Blackwatch
- Retribution
- Shimada take down (implied around here)
- Storm Rising
- Doomfist
- Quits OW
- Meets Zen
- At peace
- Dragons
- Reflections
- Zero Hour
sinful cobalt
Another question. Reaper. Need more clarification on his story. From what I gathered...
Gabriel Reyes from Los Angeles. Enlisted in the military during or before the Omnic Crisis around the same time Jack Morrison did. Became a decorated officer within the military of the exact rank I'm hazy on. Selected for the experimental Super Soldier Program with an unspoken amount of candidates, injected with chemicals that, from what we know: Greatly increase strength, durability and stamina. Granted SS's the ability to immediately begin healing from wounds (not sure if the speed varies on age, likely true) and improve reaction time. After spending time in the American military, he's offered to join the newly forming Overwatch, of which he was initially appointed strike commander of. The rank was eventually given to Morrison, he having a more positive effect on the organization. Gabriel is put in charge of Blackwatch,
peak escarp
he enlisted before Morrison - we don't know his rank, but he was a "senior officer"
limpid agate
Senior Officer is a rank
peak escarp
Overwatch's short list of prospective agents included two members of the soldier enhancement program: Morrison and Gabriel Reyes, a senior officer.
not capitalized
sinful cobalt
With takes part in multiple operations, including taking down the Shimada clan and combatting the Deadlock Gang, from which he recruits both Genji and McCree. He recruits Moira after she is expelled from a facility for her lack of morals. He is subjected to a series of experiments by Moira, of which promise abilities none other have. These include the ability to dematerialize, partially dematerialize and materialize at any given moment. Not sure about the Siphoning ability. I'm unsure whether its Reyes himself who's actually Siphoning life from enemies as a product from the experiments or the unique ammo he utilizes. Why does he go to odds with Morrison?
peak escarp
something of note about the Soldier Enhancement Program's enhancements - they are done through genetic therapy
sinful cobalt
Ik the change of leadership, but what else contributed?
peak escarp
this will come into play later when Reyes has "genetic issues" that he asks Moira to help with
sinful cobalt
Aah, I see, I see. Not confirmed what specifically these issues are but we know we had them. The whole wraith thing. Was it a either a fix or an addition?
peak escarp
it seems like their friendship breaks down because of a lack of trust - Reyes did go behind Morrison's back to hire Moira, and it cost Overwatch a huge hit to their reputation
as of Uprising, we can see signs that the trust between them is eroding
sinful cobalt
as of Uprising, we can see signs that the trust between them is eroding
Like what?
peak escarp
one second
arctic loom
why exactly reaper blame overwatch for what happened to him?
peak escarp
Gabe sent McCree in to investigate an active hostage situation without telling either Morrison or Amari, and when Jack asks, he evades
peak escarp
things seem tense here, but Ana is able to diffuse the situation
she goes MIA the following year (seen in "Legacy")
and then Reyes and Morrison don't have anyone to mediate between them
in "Old Soldiers", Reaper accuses Ana of "always taking his side"
sinful cobalt
Alright. He went behind the Strike Commanders back and brought onboard an renowned unethical doctor. With no mediator between the two of them, things get more intense. They inevitably clash at the Swedish facility, which explodes. From what?
limpid agate
Moira was before the tension
peak escarp
we don't know the details of the explosion
in-universe, it's believed to be caused by Morrison and Reyes fighting
limpid agate
The picture there is from 7 years ago. Moira was known to Jack before that
peak escarp
Morrison believes it was sabotage by Talon moles
sinful cobalt
Also, fun fact, apparently Reaper was going to die from the genetic problems the Super Soldier Program brought on, likely because he was an earlier candidate for the program. By the time of 76 they likely have ironed out some of the flaws.
limpid agate
Nah
You're gonna need a source on that fun fact, because I think you might be confused.
sinful cobalt
I.e, voice lines from Moira. "No need to thank me I only saved your life."
sinful cobalt
Wym?
peak escarp
that line could refer to her experiments on him, which allowed him to survive the explosion
limpid agate
Where Moira's prior experimentation is the only thing keeping him alive
sinful cobalt
As far as we know Moira wasn't in Swiss HQ.
limpid agate
So
sinful cobalt
that line could refer to her experiments on him, which allowed him to survive th...
I can rock with that.
limpid agate
Who said she was
sinful cobalt
Where Moira's prior experimentation is the only thing keeping him alive
I can Rock with that.
I still find it likely that the genetic problems he was talking about were life threatening. Ultimately a theory.
After the explosion, Gabe and Jack are presumed dead.
peak escarp
it's possible, but there isn't conclusive evidence for it
sinful cobalt
Gabe reappears as Reaper some time after, not sure how long after. Its said he is a mercenary so I presume he worked with other organizations before Talon. He blames Overwatch for what happened to him, or at the very least, has something out for everyone who was in Overwatch instead of Jack. Why?
peak escarp
we don't know his motivation, aside from what he says in Old Soldiers
he blames Overwatch for his condition somehow
but we don't have any more detail than that
sinful cobalt
Interesting. Perhaps its because no one was looking for him after the bombing and it was more focused on Jack. Theory.
peak escarp
I feel like this is something that will be developed more when they continue the Old Soldiers storyline
sinful cobalt
Its confirmed he's already killed Overwatch members, picking them off one by one. He's using Talon to get revenge against Overwatch, as their influence and resources are vast. Reaper is possibly immortal?
Immortal as in, he was zapped to nothing during his fight with Winston unless my memory is playing a goof, but we know he's alive.
peak escarp
Interesting. Perhaps its because no one was looking for him after the bombing a...
this seems likely, considering the line "They left you to die. They left me to suffer."
sinful cobalt
Immortal Reaper, likely a byproduct of Moira. Fights Jack in old soldiers, what happens after that to present day? I'm also unsure where Doomfist comes in during this time and when the attempt to reclaim his gauntlet was.
Man I wanna RP rn so bad talking about this lmfao.
peak escarp
after Old Soldiers, Jack and Ana stay in Cairo and take down a local crimelord (see Bastet), then go visit Mercy in her aid camp in Cairo (see Valkyrie) before following Reaper to "somewhere in Europe" (based on the timeline, Reaper is probably heading to spring Doomfist out of prison)
sinful cobalt
I dont think I've read Valkyrie
Missing out on a chunk of knowledge there. Knew about Cairo.
arctic loom
btw that boy on first cinematic said the members of overwatch became mercenaries but all of they
became or just some
like soldier?
peak escarp
the ones who became mercenaries are probably ones we haven't heard of
sinful cobalt
I cant recall any who became mercs that we know, I can name two that are vigilantes.
worthy rose
mercynary
peak escarp
since the public doesn't know that Soldier: 76 and Shrike are Jack Morrison and Ana Amari
peak escarp
well, the public suspects that Soldier: 76 is Jack Morrison, but they don't know for sure
sinful cobalt
What's her name now? Her alter ego?
sinful cobalt
Bastet
peak escarp
she used Bastet while taking down Hakim, but she left that alias behind too
sinful cobalt
Dont think torb went Merc.
peak escarp
Torb retired and went back to his family
worthy rose
torb wasnt a merc
sinful cobalt
Probably still working in Ironclad.
arctic loom
now with a bastion
sinful cobalt
Torb was an engineer that was apart of a well known engineering company named Ironclad. Bastion went off and did his own thing after their encounter.
sinful cobalt
Yes, the best.
peak escarp
Torb was an engineer that was apart of a well known engineering company named Ir...
Bastion didn't go off and do its own thing - Torbjorn took it in
we see Bastion living with Torbjorn in OW2
sinful cobalt
The best doctor, pioneered medical research of which Ana utilized.
worthy rose
we talking after the fall of ow
sinful cobalt
Rein is... not sure. Touring Europe with Brig, not sure why.
arctic loom
she left ow because was the best choice
sinful cobalt
Bastion didn't go off and do its own thing - Torbjorn took it in
Ty
peak escarp
Rein is... not sure. Touring Europe with Brig, not sure why.
searching for purpose, probably
sinful cobalt
we talking after the fall of ow
For Mercy? She was a great doc before Overwatch p sure.
peak escarp
Reinhardt felt lost when he was forced to retire
worthy rose
yo guys i have a quick question
peak escarp
Mercy was head of surgery at a Swiss hospital
worthy rose
mercy was just sitting at home in egypt doing god knows what
ig
is the recipe book canon? like there are some little stories in some recipes and idk they are funny
peak escarp
mercy was just sitting at home in egypt doing god knows what
she was working in a medical aid camp
sinful cobalt
is the recipe book canon? like there are some little stories in some recipes and...
Lol
peak escarp
is the recipe book canon? like there are some little stories in some recipes and...
I don't see why not
sinful cobalt
Dude if its canon ima laugh lmfao
worthy rose
reaper making churros is canon fuck yeah
sinful cobalt
I hope when they reveal the type of latino Reaper is, its puerto rican or dominican
peak escarp
the cookbook is the only source we have for Ingrid Lindholm being a chemical engineer
limpid agate
Its probably Mexican.
sinful cobalt
Likely, but I still got my hopes up.
peak escarp
based on his Mariachi skins, I'd say Mexican
sinful cobalt
Skin, name and where he grew up.
arctic loom
btw sombra have a objective, because she not really follow 100% the orders
sinful cobalt
North has more Puerto Ricans, southern NA has more Mexicans.
arctic loom
of reaper
peak escarp
btw sombra have a objective, because she not really follow 100% the orders
Sombra is using Talon just as much as they're using her
sinful cobalt
Sombra is merely using Talon for its resources and influence to further her own personal goal, which is finding out a conspiracy she stumbled upon when she was younger. Talon is aware of this, as Reaper conducted surveillance and reported his findings to Doomfist, of which he is fine with.
He says something along the lines of he has no problem with motivation in his people.
peak escarp
sinful cobalt
Odds are that Reaper, Sombra and Widowmaker aren't apart of a squad and deploy separately to handle missions themselves, only coming together for high priority missions.
worthy rose
guys in the pinned messages though are missing some maps, am i wrong?
sinful cobalt
The Volskaya thing was a rare partnering.
sinful cobalt
guys in the pinned messages though are missing some maps, am i wrong?
Not sure.
peak escarp
wats her gender
female
arctic loom
also looks like doomfist could escape from prison when he wanted
peak escarp
also looks like doomfist could escape from prison when he wanted
correct
worthy rose
tyty
peak escarp
Doomfist was biding his time, waiting for the right time to excape
worthy rose
no
sinful cobalt
Zarya is a female, just muscular because she lifted weights.
I'm not sure if Doom was taken down purposely. Here's why
peak escarp
you can see newspaper clippings in his cell about recent Overwatch activities and about the exhibit in Numbani that will feature his gauntlet
sinful cobalt
An interview with Jeff regarding the mystery omnic at the end of storm rising hints that it was something he necessarily wanted.
peak escarp
he wasn't captured on purpose, but he stayed in prison until he wanted to escape
arctic loom
oh yes i miss when maps used to change after a cinematic released
peak escarp
he had Talon moles in Helix giving him information
sinful cobalt
Have to reread Reinhardts comic, I think it references what he's really doing wandering.
peak escarp
he's very powerful
and very charismatic
if you haven't read The Hero of Numbani, you really should
he's written very well in that novel
sinful cobalt
Widowmaker. What alterations did they make to her in full?
Didn't know that was a novel, gotta read that too.
peak escarp
Widowmaker. What alterations did they make to her in full?
she was physiologically altered (via genetic therapy) to have a slower heart rate, which turned her skin blue
she was psychologically conditioned to not feel/express emotion and to only take pleasure from killing
(ignore the fact that slowing someone's heart wouldn't actually turn their skin blue or make them a better sniper)
sinful cobalt
The heart makes tremors throughout the body that aren't that noticeable until you're trying to hold yourself very still.
peak escarp
however, she does remember her life before Talon and remember her husband Gerard
and Talon does give her enough autonomy to take her own missions, visit her husband's grave and move into her own house and remodel it
so they must be confident in her conditioning
peak escarp
Château Guillard is located near Annecy in southeastern France. For hundreds of years, it was the estate of the influential Guillard family, until it gradually fell into disrepair after the family’s power waned in the decades after the French Revolution. Recently, the château has found a new owner: the Talon agent Widowmaker, who has returned to her family’s ancestral home.
sinful cobalt
Where'd you find that? Character profile?
peak escarp
the patch notes when Chateau Guillard was added to the game
sinful cobalt
Ah ok. Never knew that. Interesting...
peak escarp
fun fact: when she traveled to Monaco in the comic "Masquerade", she travelled under the pseudonym Danielle Guillard
sinful cobalt
Bwahaha nice.
peak escarp
sinful cobalt
Saved.
sinful cobalt
Nothing like buffing up knowledge. Now Doc, got a question for you.
worthy rose
tru
peak escarp
they even got the airport codes right - Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris to Nice Côte d'Azure Airport in Nice
sinful cobalt
What're your theories on the mystery omnic at the end of storm rising? I saw people were theorizing that he's the leader of Null Sector, which I find to be likely.
peak escarp
almost certainly the leader/a leader of Null Sector
sinful cobalt
I want to believe there's a God program involved.
peak escarp
also likely to be a playable hero at some point
sinful cobalt
But GPs are monitored by Helix, so I find it unlikely.
peak escarp
I don't think "god programs" will be relevant again
sinful cobalt
Hope they are. Lots of fun OW can have with it.
peak escarp
the community has made them into more than they are
sinful cobalt
How so?
peak escarp
A: "God program" is more of a colloquial term describing Anubis than a designation for a class of AIs.
this answer was given by former writer Michael Chu (the link is no longer available, since this was on the old forums)
limpid agate
God programs are not nearly as important as people think they are
sinful cobalt
Dude, that suuuuucks. If it was a class of AI the amount of fun writers could have...
peak escarp
I've seen people think Athena was a god program, even after we learned about her creation
limpid agate
It wouldnt be
sinful cobalt
Matter of opinion.
limpid agate
Okay, why do you think it would be cool
peak escarp
Athena is an AI made by Dr. Mina Liao
sinful cobalt
Its name is Athena like the Greek god and it's really smart.
It's not uh,
Very complex.
peak escarp
sinful cobalt
Would be fitting if they had made Athena a god program, fits into the god program thing they did. Anubis, Athena.
peak escarp
they're just names
sinful cobalt
Yeah.
peak escarp
an orisha is a Yoruban protector spirit, doesn't mean Orisa is a god
sinful cobalt
Alright, off to read and play Overwatch.
sinful cobalt
an orisha is a Yoruban protector spirit, doesn't mean Orisa is a god
Fair enough.
@peak escarp Oi,
any other books I should read? I'm gonna try to listen to Hero of Numbani, catch up on that Mercy one. Is there anything else?
peak escarp
there's 4 short stories:
Bastet
What You Left Behind
Valkyrie
Stone By Stone
sinful cobalt
Know that I want to learn everything about the lore. I love lore. I love stories.
peak escarp
in that case . . .
limpid agate
!!loreText
twilit nacelleBOT
Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX
Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Yamagami: https://bit.ly/2XJC9Jr
Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq
sinful cobalt
I read Bastet and Stone by Stone. What's What You Left Behind?
sinful cobalt
Gotcha, tyyy.
peak escarp
sinful cobalt
My man with the hook ups!
peak escarp
here's my database of all the lore articles, tweets, comics, shorts, short stories, etc.
sinful cobalt
The best way to do it.
Bound to forget/lose something if you don't organize your findings.
Oh, one more question before I'm actually off this time.
limpid agate
!!wiki
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/
limpid agate
Use this wiki
sinful cobalt
The sharpshooters. Hanzo, Widow, McCree, Ashe, anyone else I'm forgetting. Rank them from who you think is the #1 most accurate sharpshooter to least.
Just want opinions.
limpid agate
Ana
peak escarp
best to worst: Ana (at her peak), Widowmaker, Ana (currently), McCree, Ashe, Hanzo
sinful cobalt
Agreeable.
nimble furnace
I'm gonna say widow at best personally because we see her really strategic shot lineup (Collat) on tracer's accelerator and mondatta, while Ana in one of the comics just makes a shot between two walls and is like "Maybe the hardest shot I've ever made"
Tbf it looked very hard but for her long career for that to be the hardest shot she makes while widow has an equally difficult shot we can see being made, I just have to go with widow
silver oriole
I think it'd be cool in Deadlock Rebels to have a training session between McCree and Ashe and he's hitting more targets than her because he, "Always was the better shot."
sharp pebble
Reinhardt, Widow, Ana, mcree, Ashe, hanzo
peak escarp
I'm gonna say widow at best personally because we see her really strategic shot ...
she doesn't just make a shot between two walls, she ricochets it off the wall
peak escarp
because Ana hesitates
sharp pebble
So
sharp pebble
But that means She’s worse than widow because widow didn’t hesitate
sharp pebble
True
peak escarp
Ana still had better aim, she just chose not to use it
sharp pebble
I guess we just have to agree to disagree
brave ravine
I've watched all the shorts and a lot of the cool stuff I see discussed in this channel wasn't in them. I'm aware of the tracer comics. What else am I missing?
peak escarp
!!lore comics
hm
you can find the comics here
there's also 4 short stories and 1 novel
if you want to find everything, here's my database
brave ravine
whoa, awesome! thank you!
silver oriole
Doc is our Lore Link Dealer.
peak escarp
I like to keep lists and be a know it all
silver oriole
Hahaha.
sharp pebble
Lol
muted quarry
I like to keep lists ~~and be a know it all~~
Ha, nice. How do you no so much anyway, Doc?
That's what I wanna know. I spend all my spare time researching lore, and have for, like a month, yet you still know more lore! How?
peak escarp
I've been studying the lore since 2017
muted quarry
Dang.
peak escarp
I find it all very interesting and want to know all there is
muted quarry
Yea, me too
peak escarp
and I want to help others learn about it
but there's a lot of ignorance in the community, people who think the lore is a meme or full of retcons
muted quarry
Also, I just watched dragons and noticed genjis sword has a part that looks like a switch or button.
Yeah, true.
peak escarp
Also, I just watched dragons and noticed genjis sword has a part that looks like...
it's probably there to keep the sword locked in the sheath when he flips
silver oriole
Also, I just watched dragons and noticed genjis sword has a part that looks like...
It makes sense.
It appears to have some sort of tech in it.
muted quarry
I don't think it's a meme. I just think people made memes from it
silver oriole
it's probably there to keep the sword locked in the sheath when he flips
Or, yeah, this might be the answer too.
muted quarry
Yeah, possibly.
peak escarp
I don't think it's a meme. I just think people made memes from it
you'd be amazed at how many shitposters we get in here
muted quarry
Oh, I've seen it
peak escarp
if any of the regulars seem hostile, that's why
worthy rose
wait ppl meme abt lore?
muted quarry
YES
worthy rose
like the daddy 76 thing?
muted quarry
Yes
worthy rose
oh damn
peak escarp
wait ppl meme abt lore?
"lol overwatch has lore?"
peak escarp
and stuff like that
worthy rose
bruhHhHhH
worthy rose
i mean 76 has it as a voice line, father 76 is kind of lore at this point ngl
muted quarry
Eh, maybe.
worthy rose
found it while reading bout him
muted quarry
I mean, I'm not Doc, so I don't know for sure...
peak escarp
the Dad 76 thing is encouraged by the devs
muted quarry
Ah
silver oriole
I say I'm playing Daddy: 76 when I play Soldier and run around healing teammates.
silver oriole
i mean 76 has it as a voice line, father 76 is kind of lore at this point ngl
Wait, what does he say???
peak escarp
but that's not really the sort of thing I mean
people dont actually think Soldier is a dad
silver oriole
Eh, y'all were talking about Dad: 76
muted quarry
what do you guys mean by meming about lore?
Imma let doc handle that one
worthy rose
Wait, what does he say???
im not your father
silver oriole
Ah
muted quarry
I don't know enough
silver oriole
I don't know enough
Do you have any questions in particular?
peak escarp
I mean when some new lore comes out and the first few comments are usually
"ow has lore?"
"lol wait until this gets retconned"
muted quarry
Hm
worthy rose
just ignore them lmao
silver oriole
Yeah
worthy rose
does mercy valk have lore?
muted quarry
Ye, sorry abt that
worthy rose
valkyrie or sigrun
silver oriole
does mercy valk have lore?
What do you mean?
near smelt
that's weird, there's so much lore in voice lines n stuff and I'm surprised people are shocked by it
silver oriole
The skins?
muted quarry
The skin
muted quarry
Probably just a play on ult name
worthy rose
ah
peak escarp
her Valkyrie Suit is a combat she designed to allow her to actively heal on the battlefield
silver oriole
It's just a skin thing; same with Riverboat McCree or Daredevil: 76.
worthy rose
the valkyrie skin
silver oriole
her Valkyrie Suit is a combat she designed to allow her to actively heal on the ...
They mean the skin, not the armor.
muted quarry
Or Grill master 76
silver oriole
Yeah
muted quarry
Same thing. Just fun
worthy rose
wouldve been so cool ngl
peak escarp
the skins are a reference to the Norse valkyries, who select the fallen from the battlefield and take them to Valhalla
muted quarry
Yup.
worthy rose
does mercy have to do anything w that
muted quarry
But they also prob exist as a reference to ult name.
peak escarp
not all skins are canon, some (like those) are just for fun
muted quarry
Valkyrie suit
worthy rose
oh
peak escarp
she has a lot of angelic imagery, and valkyries are often depicted as angel-like
peak escarp
I have work now, so I wont be able to answer any more questions until later - the other regulars are pretty helpful though
muted quarry
So, if junkrat made his stuff, how come it doesn't explode in his face
worthy rose
have fun
muted quarry
Aight, doc
cosmic crest
So, if junkrat made his stuff, how come it doesn't explode in his face
Junkrat is a moron, but he's a savant when it comes to explosives.
muted quarry
Well, it did. He lost his leg, but now it doesn't. Hm
near smelt
sorry if it's a dumb question but how did he lose his arm and leg? is it known?
muted quarry
Leg: homemade explosive. Arm: unknown
near smelt
thanks mate
finite urchin
it's probably there to keep the sword locked in the sheath when he flips
It’s probably to activate his dragon power
finite urchin
I doubt it
Why?
I mean ig hanzo doesnt need a switch to summon his dragons
But real swords dont need a switch to keep them in their sheaths
I noticed the button a long time ago and it reminded me of those plastic sword toys that light up when you press a button on them LMAO
peak escarp
But real swords dont need a switch to keep them in their sheaths
real swords aren't being worn by ninjas who do backflips
they're normally held in by gravity
finite urchin
real swords aren't being worn by ninjas who do backflips
Actually further supporting my point his wakizashi doesnt have a button on it
I cant post pics tho
So i think genji doesnt need a button to keep his sword in place
It Probably just clicks right in or some future stuff
limpid agate
I have a replica of his sword where there is a button to open it.
Just his sword
Any other weapons don't have that button, be they replicas or actual sheaths.
finite urchin
dont katanas got buttons to tick open
I dont think they do tho...
finite urchin
I have a replica of his sword where there is a button to open it.
Wait how do you light his sword up?
limpid agate
You don't.
finite urchin
Oh...
limpid agate
There is a second button on it that is non-functional.
finite urchin
It always looked glowing to me, huh
peak escarp
the replica doesn't light up
finite urchin
the replica doesn't light up
It looked like it to me
See thumbnail of the advertisement
On youtube
Nvm ig i can do this
Cmon tell me that looks like it glows
golden tusk
It’s probably to activate his dragon power
I've always liked the idea that the Shimada dragons are made from hard-light or nano tech of some sort, and that they are activated through that switch on Genji's sword, or maybe a voice command in Hanzo's case.
finite urchin
I've always liked the idea that the Shimada dragons are made from hard-light or ...
Yes, it’s most likely hard light. Recall how it’s stated that some ppl can use hard light differently than others, sym being an example so maybe the shimadas are the same
finite urchin
Ok
finite urchin
There is a second button on it that is non-functional.
Jewvia you may wanna find somewhere on your sword that you can put batteries in
That button is definitely for something
muted quarry
Maybe it is hard light. Idk tho
peak escarp
hard light makes the most sense
sharp pebble
It’s magic
peak escarp
It’s magic
it's not magic
peak escarp
so does hard light
limpid agate
The dragons behave near identically to Symmetra's hard light orbs
peak escarp
dragons aren't real
worthy rose
but-
worthy rose
silver oriole
The dragons behave near identically to Symmetra's hard light orbs
Now that I think about it, they kind of do.
But I can also think of some differences.
The dragons are fluid, constantly moving.
And they also pass through walls and barriers; Sym's burst upon impact.
peak escarp
Now that I think about it, they kind of do.
But I can also think of some differe...
before the rework, they passed through enemies
worthy rose
so is reins barrier question mark?
peak escarp
shields are hard light too
fading coyote
which military range has sojourn in overwatch?
finite urchin
Now that I think about it, they kind of do.
But I can also think of some differe...
Barriers clip through walls, barriers are made of hard light
sharp pebble
dragons aren't real
Lies
sharp pebble
Dragons aren't real
Lies
limpid agate
@sharp pebble Do not ping me to shitpost
limpid agate
!!shitposting
twilit nacelleBOT
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
limpid agate
Consider this your final warning.
finite urchin
which military range has sojourn in overwatch?
Sry but What does this mean
Pls elaborate
median frigate
fading coyote
rank idk
waxen trout
Here's the thing though.
If it's hard light, Symmetra would be able to use them, right? But it says in the short "only a Shimada can control the dragons."
It can't be just hard light.
finite urchin
If it's hard light, Symmetra would be able to use them, right? But it says in th...
Some ppl can use hard light in ways that others cant
The dragons must be a special way of utilizing hard light as well
waxen trout
Hmm. Do you think it has something to do with the tattoos? Like. Connected to the tattoo somehow?
Injected nano tech?
Maybe the ink was infused with it?
Idk about Genji then though
peak escarp
If it's hard light, Symmetra would be able to use them, right? But it says in th...
nothing says Symmetra can manipulate all hard light
the dragons are probably just a family secret, closely guarded
or Hanzo was just being extra
muted quarry
or Hanzo was just being extra
Maybe he was extra. Altho both Shimadas seem to be very to the point.
Ha
peak escarp
Hanzo is so dramatic that he got an undercut and piercings for his midlife crisis at age 38
cursive arrow
I just realized that roadhog doesn't have a Australian accent
peak escarp
he has a very slight one
barely noticable because he doesn't talk much
but you can hear it on some of his slang lines, like "sweet as"
analog cargo
wot is a nano
cursive arrow
wot is a nano
nano boost, Ana's ult, not part of lore
finite urchin
Hmm. Do you think it has something to do with the tattoos? Like. Connected to th...
that's a very good guess
the hard light being connected to his tattoos, after all we see the dragons coming out of them
sand barn
Someone once said me that the dragons cant be hardlight coz they're solid, and not something that can pass through walls easily
limpid agate
They literally pass through Hanzo in Dragons
They're not solid
And even then, that argument makes no sense
We have seen hard light in the form of:
- Fluid beams
- Semi-solid barriers and orbs
- Solid Constructs and Buildings
muted quarry
True. The dragons may be hard light. Maybe not tho
muted quarry
Hanzo is so dramatic that he got an undercut and piercings for his midlife crisi...
Lol. Hanzo the Drama King
sharp pebble
It is magic
iron plume
Overwatch has no magic
silver oriole
Clarke's third law states that, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
It may seem like magic to us, but it's actually just some really advanced tech.
muted quarry
No magic. All tech. A lot of ults look like magic, but definitely are not
Hey, doc, I've got a question for you. Where does reaper get new shotguns from?
dense crescent
reaper has a little rat on his back that hands him shotguns (joke)
that is a good question though,, never really thought about it too hard
iron plume
The short real answer is we don't know
The longer one is that he might be regenerating them the same way he does his body
and the ones he throws out disappear and get reabsorbed
hushed jetty
i assume he just has extras in his coat
i doubt he goes through as many as he does in game
sharp pebble
Still magic
iron plume
If you're not here to actually discuss lore I suggest going to a different channel
silver oriole
I have a theory for Reaper's shotguns.
I suggest that, as he's able to turn into a wraith(if I remember correctly, this isn't just in-game, but is also how he escapes Soldier and Ana).
He has a pocket dimension-type thing.
But not the same thing.
near smelt
I've heard the theory that he regenerates them as well, but wtf is he shooting then? Is anyone sure how that would work?
silver oriole
He also has a spray called, "Psst" where he's holding his cloak open and a few shotguns are visible, so that's another possible explanation.
near smelt
very true, but that's more of comedy than lore i think, can you see his guns hidden in his cloak at all?
silver oriole
Yeah, I figured that.
sinful cobalt
He also has a spray called, "Psst" where he's holding his cloak open and a few s...
Think it's more of a joke.
near smelt
still a possibility though
spark parcel
The guns probably generate from his smoke stuff, and turn back into smoke after he throws them on the ground
sinful cobalt
I have a theory for Reaper's shotguns.
I suggest that, as he's able to turn into...
It's suggested he can dematerialize/rematerialize himself. On the wiki, I'm pretty sure it says his body is in a constant state of decay and regen. I'll go take a look real quick
sharp pebble
He has a pocket dimension-type thing.
That’s magic
silver oriole
It's suggested he can dematerialize/rematerialize himself. On the wiki, I'm pret...
It does.
sharp pebble
Ye
silver oriole
It's due to Moira's experimentation on him.
sinful cobalt
He dematerializes a portion of his body which converts into black mist, that's how he got away. I feel like a pocket dimension is a little out there.
where's the meme roo
m
spark parcel
But if his guns generate from the smoke, and the smoke is a side effect of his body decaying and regenerating, would that mean his guns are part of his body?
sharp pebble
Ooo
silver oriole
His clothes also turn into smoke.
sinful cobalt
But if his guns generate from the smoke, and the smoke is a side effect of his b...
Yes, it's implied. The exact science of it is weird.
silver oriole
Perhaps they are modified?
sinful cobalt
His guns don't actually become smoke though, in game they just despawn.
spark parcel
In-game isn’t canon though
sinful cobalt
True enough, but we get plenty of lore friendly content,
silver oriole
In-game isn’t canon though
But doesn't he turn to smoke in the comic where he fights Ana and Soldier?
I need to go look.
sinful cobalt
like the archives events which are, to my opinion, canon.
spark parcel
About the thing where his clothes can turn into smoke; if the smoke is a part of him, and his clothes are made of it, would that make him naked?
sinful cobalt
If they wanted to include a despawn-in-smoke feature, I'm sure they would have. Maybe we can see that feature be implemented in OW2. Also, in the cinematics, I don't think his guns turn to smoke either.
sinful cobalt
About the thing where his clothes can turn into smoke; if the smoke is a part of...
Would it still count as naked if the body underneath dematerialized into smoke as well?
spark parcel
If his body disappears and the clothes disappear with it, the clothes must be a part of his body like the smoke and the guns, and if what we think of as his clothes are just a part of him, then he would be naked.
silver oriole
Am I able to post an image address?
sinful cobalt
If his body disappears and the clothes disappear with it, the clothes must be a ...
True enough.
spark parcel
If they wanted to include a despawn-in-smoke feature, I'm sure they would have. ...
Do we ever see the guns after he drops them in the cinematics, or does he just have new ones later
sinful cobalt
Do we ever see the guns after he drops them in the cinematics, or does he just h...
Not 100% sure. I know we see him drop them and remove completely new ones just like he does in game, but as for seeing the guns on the floor, not sure. Would have to rewatch, though I wouldn't count on seeing them.
Common theme in high class animations is discarding objects. Example, character in pixar movie drops his bag on the floor. Engages in conversation. Camera change in the next scene, the bag is no longer there or has been moved.
Shitty example but it's enough to get the point across.
spark parcel
We can really only guess about what happens to them, but I feel like it would fit with his abilities if they turned back into smoke when he was done with them
Also the guns are very large, and that coat doesn’t look like it would be big enough to hold any, let alone numerous copies
near smelt
would reapers new emote where he has different types of guns affect this at all?
sinful cobalt
Also the guns are very large, and that coat doesn’t look like it would be big en...
Agreed
sinful cobalt
We can really only guess about what happens to them, but I feel like it would fi...
Agreed
sinful cobalt
would reapers new emote where he has different types of guns affect this at all?
They're not different, they're just resized shotguns of his.
near smelt
ah my bad
spark parcel
The emote isn’t necessarily canon, but it seems to imply that he makes the guns on the spot, since it looks like he makes a mistake with the size the first few times
sinful cobalt
You're good
The emote almost looks likes he's looking for the correct sized gun
More of a goofy funny emote than anything canonical, just like when the cartoon villain is pulling out different items/weapons from behind him to find the right one.
He gets disappointed with each size until he finds those big (default sized) shotguns.
spark parcel
To me it looked more like he was trying to get the big ones, but he made them the wrong size. It kind of fits with the making them from smoke idea because he wouldn’t just carry multiple sizes of guns, but he might get small ones if he made a mistake while creating them.
near smelt
ah yeah, y'all are probably right. Just didn't know how it would fit into theories and if it even is canon
silver oriole
I hope we get a peek at how he gets/makes/stores them in a future comic, short story, or even a cutscene in Overwatch 2.
peak escarp
I still think it would have been funnier if he pulled out another hero's gun
silver oriole
Or maybe that grenade launcher we see in the announcement trailer and then never hear about again.
near smelt
grenade launcher??
silver oriole
He shoots Winston with a grenade launcher in the trailer where it's him and Widowmaker trying to steal the Doomfist Gauntlet.
near smelt
oh, I've never noticed that
well I guess that's just another excuse to watch it again 
ashen oriole
I still think it would have been funnier if he pulled out another hero's gun
lol imagine the look in everybody's face
sharp pebble
It’s like dvas or something
near smelt
that would have been great
silver oriole
It’s like dvas or something
That'd be really funny.
He just pulls out one of her mech's arms and shakes his head and rolls his eyes.
sharp pebble
Yes
muted quarry
That’s magic
No it's not! There is no magic
silver oriole
They're trolling, just leave it be.
silver oriole
That wouldn't happen but
We're saying it'd be more funny if he did that for the emote.
muted quarry
Doc started it.
silver oriole
Touche
spark parcel
It was related to the reaper lore we were talking about
muted quarry
At least the emote part
silver oriole
Doc started it.
That's a very childish argument.
sharp pebble
The point is being goofy, not legit
Like junkrats pachimari emote. Just funny
muted quarry
That's a very childish argument.
I k.
silver oriole
That reminds me.
Is Pachimari supposed to be an onion with octopus tentacles?
'Cause that's what it looks like to me.
muted quarry
Yes
silver oriole
Or is it a creature from some mythology?
muted quarry
It's an in-game fictional creature
silver oriole
Alrighty then, thanks!
muted quarry
Np
sharp pebble
Also did anyone else notice that the junk rat pachimari emote is a commen?
peak escarp
yes
sharp pebble
Did blizzard say why
fervent merlin
we should have more symmetra lore
peak escarp
I agree
fervent merlin
peak escarp
we need more lore for all heroes
peak escarp
Mercy has plenty of lore
Symmetra has a fair amount
Mercy has Valkyrie and was in Uprising and Storm Rising
Symmetra has A Better World and Stone By Stone
the hero with the least lore is Sigma
peak escarp
Zenyatta was in Stone By Stone
near smelt
I see I see
peak escarp
and will be featured in the OW2 story
peak escarp
sigma has alot of lore tho
Sigma hasn't appeared in anything outside of his origin trailer, which didn't tell us much
worthy rose
trutru
ashen oriole
will we get sigma lore in ow2?
peak escarp
maybe
muted quarry
Hopefully
still roost
what if they nerf bob and make him a character
or we got more bob backstory
either or
silver oriole
Bob's backstory is he's Ashe's butler/caretaker.
peak escarp
we'll get more Bob backstory in Deadlock Rebels
silver oriole
Also, we'll probably learn more about him in Deadlock Rebels.
Aaaaand Doc beat me to it.
raven sluice
we'll get more Bob backstory in Deadlock Rebels
okay so
ive been off the server and Overwatch for a while
mind explainin what that is?
raven sluice
pog
peak escarp
When Ashe is arrested yet again on the morning of her high school graduation, her aloof, old-money parents decide to disinherit her from the family fortune. To steal back what''s rightfully hers, Ashe teams up with her omnic butler, B.O.B., and local ruffian Jesse McCree for a series of heists, catapulting the trio into a game of fast money and dangerous alliances. Along the way, Ashe discovers that family isn''t just about blood. It''s about the people who''ve got your back when your back''s against the wall.
Full of high-octane chases and action-packed stand-offs, the second novel for Overwatch explores the founding of the Deadlock Gang and the origins of fan-favorite heroes Ashe and McCree. Don''t miss this incredible, original story straight from the Overwatch game team and critically acclaimed author Lyndsay Ely.```so what was the objective of mei and her team by freezing
themselves
what they exactly wanted doing it?
peak escarp
there was a storm and they had low supplies, so they were going to hibernate to wait out the storm and wait for new supplies to be delivered
but the storm didn't let up and the supplies never came, so they never got woken up
nimble furnace
So what happened to her colleagues then? Like, how did mei get woken up but not them? I've totally forgotten at this point lol
peak escarp
the cryochambers failed and they died
Mei's would have failed eventually, but Winston's recall woke her up before it did
they didn't all fail at the same time, they broke one by one
ashen oriole
is there a summary of the novels?
peak escarp
The Hero of Numbani, by Nicky Drayden
ashen oriole
oh ok
ashen oriole
thank you
muted quarry
Mei's would have failed eventually, but Winston's recall woke her up before it d...
So mei just got lucky?
peak escarp
pretty much
muted quarry
Waw
peak escarp
it could have been any one of them to survive, or none at all if every chamber failed before Winston sent his message
muted quarry
Hm
Winston saved a life with the are u with us msg. I don't think he saw that coming!
Where's McCree during Zero Hour?
I've wondered for a while
peak escarp
in the behind the scenes panel we saw that he heads to Toronto to find Sojourn
muted quarry
So will he be in the Toronto mission in ow2?
I also thought Mercy didn't approve of overwatch and the recall. Therefore why did she come to paris?
peak escarp
she got some words of encouragement from Ana in "Valkyrie"
worthy rose
last cliff
Theory: Winston is tracers son?
warm escarp
no her brodah
worthy rose
No her boyfriend
last cliff
Nah all the lore goes to show
warm escarp
worthy rose
silver oriole
Y'all, this is a serious discussion channel.
warm escarp
i am serious
worthy rose
warm escarp
worthy rose
peak escarp
!!shitposting @last cliff
twilit nacelleBOT
@last cliff Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
warm escarp
oh no!
worthy rose
last cliff
!!shitposting <@!774313389836992535>
😔
worthy rose
warm escarp
torb and briggitte?
peak escarp
Torbjorn is Brigitte's father
warm escarp
alabama?
last cliff
Torb and rein
warm escarp
YES
last cliff
K
peak escarp
because Reinhardt saved Torbjorn's life
last cliff
because Reinhardt saved Torbjorn's life
Naw you thinking of reaper and soldier
peak escarp
no
last cliff
oK
warm escarp
i saw on quickplay when i bastion monke save little man with turret lifee on car payload
peak escarp
You may have heard that Reinhardt is responsible for saving my life. I've heard the story at least four different times myself, already, each time more unbelievable than the last. Exaggerations, as you know how he can be. All the same, they've decided to award him a commendation for "conspicuous bravery." Could two words better describe the big oaf?
warm escarp
monke save little man with turret life!!!!!
worthy rose
🤠
peak escarp
this is not the place to discuss gameplay
this channel is for serious lore discussion
worthy rose
last cliff
Yeah guys
warm escarp
this channel is for serious lore discussion
ye but me get a kill as batiom
worthy rose
peak escarp
I don't care
worthy rose
warm escarp
I don't care
YES YOU DO!
worthy rose
worthy rose
warm escarp
they funnee
worthy rose
Gengi x Mercy was pretty much confirmed at Blizzcon Online. So that means other ships like Rein x Ana or Mei x Roadhog could be possible. But then again if they allowed them to ship Mercy x Pharah it would be pedophilia because Mercy changes her looks despite her real age. Same with Gengi he looks younger than he truly is. If you need more proof Mercy gave Gengi that thicc butt
iron plume
...what
last cliff
🤔
warm escarp
worthy rose
She doesn’t?
peak escarp
no
iron plume
Genji x Mercy wasn't confirmed, and even if it ends up true it was hinted at for years
worthy rose
Well frick
peak escarp
she's 37, he's 35
iron plume
Rein x Ana wasn't, and Mei never met Roadhog
last cliff
She doesn’t?
Check your facts before posting smh
worthy rose
WELL FRICK
peak escarp
and Pharah is 32
worthy rose
Check your facts before posting smh
I have several questions
warm escarp
Genji x Mercy wasn't confirmed, and even if it ends up true it was hinted at for...
its just some people wanting it to happen
last cliff
she's 37, he's 35
oK boomer
iron plume
I have several questions
Theories are backed up by facts
peak escarp
that's not what that means
warm escarp
oK moomer
last cliff
🤡
worthy rose
[Insert Jester Junkrat here]
warm escarp
i have thet lol
iron plume
No he's not
warm escarp
and roadhog barier reefish
peak escarp
Junkrat is New Zealandish smh
Junkrat is Australian
worthy rose
junk is australian
iron plume
!!shitposting
twilit nacelleBOT
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
peak escarp
Zarya is Russian
worthy rose
zarya is russian
warm escarp
no winston is aussiestarilian
worthy rose
winston is moonian
warm escarp
lol
last cliff
Moonian
warm escarp
marzian
worthy rose
yosh
hazy kiln
I don’t think Winston was born on the moon. I may be wrong though.
last cliff
Tracer is Spanish?
warm escarp
i think waliugi if not in smash should be in overwatch /vortnighte
last cliff
i think waliugi if not in smash should be in overwatch /vortnighte
Smh over watch
iron plume
I don’t think Winston was born on the moon. I may be wrong though.
He most likely was
warm escarp
he was trained thgere
peak escarp
Tracer is Spanish?
do you even play this game? She's British
last cliff
do you even play this game? She's British
No I stopped when they removed scatter arrow
It was e best thing in Th e game
warm escarp
i stopped when nerf bastion as maae nerf was elreedy bad:(
peak escarp
that's still no excuse
last cliff
that's still no excuse
Wym? You asked if I played...
warm escarp
mai*
worthy rose
mei*
warm escarp
mee*
last cliff
no it’s april
warm escarp
sadge
guys this for lore dicussion now back tommatter at hand
i think widowmaker from west poil
pole*
last cliff
Zeus in the sky and that?
worthy rose
is hanzos father alive? do we know anything about him? his parents?
iron plume
He's dead
last cliff
is hanzos father alive? do we know anything about him? his parents?
I am not sure ask in #lore-discussion
iron plume
we know his name was Sojiro, and he narrated Dragons
worthy rose
oh damn
last cliff
🧢
worthy rose
we know his name was Sojiro, and he narrated Dragons
Oooo
iron plume
His death is what ultimately caused the clan's downfall
worthy rose
wb his mother
iron plume
Since after that the other elders told Hanzo to kill Genji
we don't know much about the mother
tribal basalt
So Hanzo's father is dead and his mother is unknown for now?
tribal basalt
Oh
limpid agate
His father's death was what led to the conflict between the brothers
muted quarry
So is there a why as to the slipstream malfunction?
peak escarp
we don't know
muted quarry
Oh
peak escarp
it was an experimental prototype, they probably hadn't figured out all the bugs yet
finite urchin
Just gameplay, actually idk probably has to charge bc tracer isnt abusing it as much as possible
peak escarp
it does require charging
muted quarry
Ok
muted quarry
And it keeps her in the right time as long as it's near rite?
finite urchin
Do you mean charge like a phone or charge as in cooldowns between usage
muted quarry
Both
peak escarp
muted quarry
Ok thanks
finite urchin
Do you know if it has to cooldown though
peak escarp
based on the guage with 3 sections, I would think that it needs 1 section full to blink, 2 sections full to recall, but that's just a guess
peak escarp
muted quarry
How's that supposed to work
peak escarp
she has a dock for it in places she stays regularly, like Emily's apartment and Watchpoint Gibraltar
muted quarry
Ah, ok.
peak escarp
I would guess that the dock boosts the range to cover the whole living space
finite urchin
Wait im actually kinda curious, does tracer have to wait for cooldowns between blinking?
muted quarry
Yes, according to doc's theory
peak escarp
she doesn't seem to
muted quarry
At least for a charge
peak escarp
in Alive she blinks several times without waiting between them
finite urchin
Okay
muted quarry
True
But it does do a closeup on the accelerator doing something when she gets mad at widow. What's that about
finite urchin
If tracer doesnt need to move herself but is automatically teleported by her accelerator why doesnt she just equip super heavy weaponry :/
finite urchin
So she gets tired herself?
peak escarp
I would assume
muted quarry
She's not a machine
peak escarp
but she's probably in really good shape from running around a lot
finite urchin
That...kinda sucks
muted quarry
She is human
peak escarp
she's a sprinter
finite urchin
Well then what’s the point of blinking in the streets of london then
Nvm probably to get home quicker
muted quarry
She is a SPRINTER. Short distance runner
peak escarp
in Reflections, she was trying to get to the shops before they closed
and trying to stop a thief
muted quarry
But that begs the question: why use a hoverbike in storm rising
finite urchin
She is a SPRINTER. Short distance runner
That...didn’t answer my question
finite urchin
But that begs the question: why use a hoverbike in storm rising
Good point why did she
muted quarry
Sprinters are not made for stamina or running long distances.
Actually, somewhere it says she got a bike and wanted to go faster, right doc
finite urchin
Sprinters are not made for stamina or running long distances.
I was asking why she was blinking in her casual life, when she still gets exhausted normally
peak escarp
But that begs the question: why use a hoverbike in storm rising
blinking would have taken too much energy
she's fast but not that fast
muted quarry
Ah, ok
finite urchin
Prevent exhaustion?
What?
peak escarp
with blinks, she'd get exhausted at the same speed but is able to cover far more distance than running normally
muted quarry
That's what I mean^