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Yeah, thats how he got the name “wrecking ball” they dont know he’s a hamster (maybe)
he's a former experiment, former Junkertown champion
she was also kind of an experiment, Mccree was supposed to protect the lady who made Echo, he failed and she died and i think (this is my assumption) he lost his arm in the process
Or maybe im wrong
she's an adaptive robot made by Dr. Liao
McCree lost his arm after that
he lost it after Overwatch fell
i thought he lost it the same way junkrat did
Probably not
i heard junk and mcree were cuffed together so they cut their arms off
but thats what i heard
no
Yo that seems cool, and i feel like that would be a cool duo together, but like Australia and America are pretty far
¯_(ツ)_/¯
that was bad fanfiction
huh
Idk, but god i love Mccree
so is reaper how he is because of moira
You’re pretty quick to shut us down, how do you think he lost his arm?
Yeah mostly
so what is reaper
well if anything i doubt it would be due to something with junkrat
is he ded or alive
Yesn’t
i would assume not, there's no magic or things like that in the ow universe
well he could use wraith when he was in Blackwatch, because of Moira
no michael chu confirmed that didnt happen
Nah, because they havnt seen each other since deadlock
hmm
then how abt junk
did junk lose his left side due to an experiment of his ult
specifics are always nice
i'd assume it got blown off but it's not confirmed
also any reason y australia is a junk town
Nuclear shit and war maybe
not all of australia is junkertown, junkertown is just in australia
an omnium blew up, causing radiation to decimate the entire place
y did mei survive
no clue
Cryostasis
the other crew?
the others in her group all died to to their cryostasis machines malfunctioning at some point
Hers was the only one that didnt fail
hers just didn't, i suppose
dang
i wish it did
did torb fix bastion
Yeah
orisa quotes to bastion
And probably gave him his hat
what is null sector
there is a comic about it
Null Sector is an omnic terrorist organization that fights for omnic rights
but, like, violently
they've been around since overwatch's golden age, so at least 8 years or so
Sorry i didnt notice the null sector question, there is a comic for torb
Mainly Torb, i think
null sector manufactures some omnics
but in the end the first omnics were made by humans
Like torb?
Torbjorn designed the bastion units
torbjorn helped design them
Dr. Liao worked for Omnica and designed the omnic's AI
Well then im not entirely wrong
he was part of the ironclad guild, which designed bastions
torb left
I think so
oh very cool
Doomfist is Talon's de facto leader
i think that's proof
what are they doing nowadays, then?
Didnt Torb swear to destroy what he made?
also does doomfist have a prosthetic arm
Yes
yes
yes
no idea
he lost it after the crisis
is he wearing a gauntlent
Yes
he has both a prosthetic and a gauntlet
Yes
he lost his arm in the omnic crisis
in his talon skin does he have prosthetics on both and legs?
Does it say who created the first omnic?
unfortunately, that meant he couldnt pursue his martial arts career
the omnics were made by Omnica Corp, not just one person
well, anyway he got the gauntlet from his teacher, and wore it over his right arm, his prosthetic
and the ironclad guild made the bastion units
He killed his teacher?
sombra with talon?
yes
So was torb apart of the creation of the omnic war?
yes, but she may go rouge
wait does genji still have half of his body like the blackwatch skin in his default skin
well, kinda. he helped design the bastion units which were a large part of the war, but he didn't help START it
Yeah
o
So he’s the reason those damn bastions keep killing my team while they just stand still
gameplay and lore are separate but yes
Mercy revived him, overwatch rebuilt him
and if hanzos dragons killed genji how come in the cinematic genji could control the dragons
he didn't die, and it wasn't due to the dragons
Yeah, i was joking
hanzo sliced him with a sword
he made the bastion units for peacekeeping, just like the or14s were made to do the same
ouch
unfortunately, bad omnics stole the design
yeah
and used it for their own purposes
Shimadas (and damn echo) can only control dragons
what are dragons
no clue
The spirit dragons
not a single idea
we know it's not magic but that's about it
ow isnt a fantasy game either
This is gonna sound crazy- magic ha ha
its sci fi
Comes from his aura, perhaps
Yes. And it’ll team wipe or kill no one
some speculate that the tattoo has some kind of tech in it, i like to think that maybe they're made of hard light
then i want a spirit doom fist arm
but we don't know
you know what sym uses to make her creations?
it's using hard light
hard light is a technology
ohj
used by vishkar
but the shimadas
shields are also made of hard light
just pull it out of their arses
no technology
Yeah
also
No
it's not that rare of a technology so i doubt it's a big stretch to say the dragons are hard light
some ppl are known to be able to utilize hard light in ways that others cant
does hanzo have cybernetics
no
no
is the shimadas a sym
no
no
lmao
yeah but they can do the same shit
how come hanzo has two dragons
no idea
why is it blue and green
Big brother powers, obviously
headcanon: genji could have one too, but he was injured so he wasnt able to use his full power
lmao
we don't know the real reason though
wow you guys ask a lot of questions
or injured before his full potential could devlop
we dont
that's why i said headcanon
u have not seen my full potential: smol dragon unleashed
yeah i know
...big brother powers
lol yeah
Blame call me t
also sym's lasers are hard light energy
Hanzo has two dragons because it needed to fill the hitbox of the ability
so maybe hanzo's dragons are lasers
also does mercy really res
there isn't a lore reason
her "res" is that part in zero hour when she heals mei
which is a little lame in my opinion but it's what we got
yeah
it clearly says "resurrect"- revives a fallen team mate
Dont even start on Baptiste’s immortality field
yeah also bap
gameplay is not the same as lore
...no
yes
r we livin off piss
it's still kind of intriguing that hanzo has 2 and genji has 1
is mercy always pissin
"resurrect" is just a name
Moira wants your location
it's biotic healing
Omg
majick science
The questions
nanobiotic particles
I love it
science shit
lmao
that we cant explain in our real world
scientific piss
also y can anna reload so fast
bc it's a game
Bolt action
Ana, Mercy, Moira and Baptiste all use nanobiotic healing
how abt zen
Zen uses "omnic energy"
Reaper’s healing is the worst to explain
Lucio and Brigitte's healing isn't canon
he doesnt actually steal life
he in canon, naturally regenerates
I know
the metal balls he has hovering around him are real
it's just harmony/discord that aren't
well yeah i mean the. healing ones
why didnt mondatta have them then?
L A M E
Zen's healing seems to be more . . . metaphysical
because he isn't Zenyatta? why would he have them?
because then ur implying that it's natural for omnics to have balls?
y cant everyone have a ball
why would zenyatta have them either? huh?
they're meditation orbs
they were described in Stone By Stone
sure, ig they look like medicine balls
but
okay
do they float around zen in stone by stone too?
also whats with tracers iron man chest
she has to wear that to stay alive
she didnt have it before right
that chronal accelerator
all around. The pilgrims broke their fast, then settled on pillows. When Satya first
followed their lead, she was anticipating the priests would ask her to meditate. It
was a practice she had attempted in the past but had found challenging. She was
surprised when they gave the pilgrims each a metallic sphere that fit in the palms of
their hands.
“These are the spheres we ourselves meditate upon,” Zenyatta told her.
“Like those in the bas-relief.”
He nodded. “I think for you…the Orb of Perception.”
“So that I might best perceive what you need.”```
bc she's glitched across time
if its destroyed shes dead right
she needs that chronal accelerator to control her own time and space
nah, it can be repaired
but she dissapears
but it's probably a helluva hassle to do it
she can also take it off, as long as she stays near it
yeah but she came back
so it's repariable
*repairable
Winston made her a new one
yeah either that or the obvious, that she made a new one
yes
is soldier american
yes
anyone else american
ashe
Soldier is from Indiana
reaper
reaper is american?
Ashe is also from Texas
yes
reaper is american but i think he's also mexican
he's chicano
yeah he has mexican skins
whos the youngest hero in ow
orisa
Orisa
exclude omnics
she's 1 month old
exclude animals
then you have ur answer
dva
dva 19
her friend dayheon
people keep sayi its lover, simp, or brother
idk how to spell it
or just friend
dayum
The fanbase, on the other hand.....
nah he probably lost his dangler
the 5 youngest heroes are:
Orisa [1 month]
Wrecking Ball [14]
D.Va [19]
Zenyatta [20]
Junkrat [25]
he's not a playboy anymore for a different reason
no pp
it was his playboy life that led to him nearly being killed
no pp :(
why is everyone so obsessed with Genji's penis?
i always think of him as optimistic
cuz penises are important to men
really important
to have no pp is to have nothin
uh bc his lower body was mauled
well hanzo obviously did something to the other half of his body
well said
is genji naked technically
technically
"tech"
that's why he's wearing clothes in OW2
that's really cool honestly
the image
so basically
he lost his legs and one arm anakin style
he didn't see his cyborg body as part of himself before, but now he does
so blackwatch armor first before the default
what is his armor made of
metal
once he helped Overwatch take down the Shimada clan, they finished his body
he probably did
or thanks to new body its rgb
his eyes are likely augmented
wait a second
here, genji has a red black color scheme on blackwatch
imagine how weird his green aura looked with that
to the squad
yep
but to enemy its dope
lol weebs
yeah? what about em
they're just different arrows in his kit
how does hanzos scatter work
idk bro it's the future
like the Green Arrow, or Hawkeye
is it bouncy
yes you see it in the cinematic
it could also split up
yes
actually
lemme tell u smth interesting
hanzo's hero select still has the scatter arrow
ive seen the scatter montages
not the enemy though
it will likely be used as one of Hanzo's talents in OW2
like hog and dva
scatter was only like a way around shields
not helpin the team as much
since u had to wait after using a scatter
but idk how much damage it does
since i didnt play then
also y didnt brig get a change in overwatch 2
she will
they haven't revealed them all yet
all 32 heroes from the first game will be getting new looks
That all 32 includes Echo.
We do not know if it also includes Sojourn, but it probably won't.
by the time OW2 comes out Echo will have been in the game for 2 years
At least
its been 5 years that ive finally been able to discuss these with actually people familiar with the lore i thank you all
Sojourn's look might change before then - they're still working on the game, after all
she already looked different from the 2019 trailer
bruh remember those pixar mom thighs
lmao
i highly doubt that's her final design
but that's just texturing and shading
you cant call that an actual character design change
That's not the same
Also that's just the scene and lighting
It looks the same to me
yeah
That shot in particular makes it look like they added more braids to the side
But that's just the cameraangle
I think that's also partially the camera to blame
her hair might be different but that isn't a major design change
but still i do agree her design might change before that
Discord blocked my image
yeah
but honestly, her thighs, jokes aside
look ridiculous as fuck
she looks even goofier than roadhog
cyborg thighs
they still look horrible u gotta admit bro
Bot keep autodeleting my picture, thinks its NSFW.
So heres a screenshot of the screenshot
lmao
sojourn was like... the leader of ow?
No
The leader of Overwatch was Jack Morrison (Soldier 76).
Second in command was Ana Amari.
The leader of the strike team that became Overwatch was Gabriel Reyes (Reaper). He was also leader of Blackwatch.
Sojourn took over Ana's job as Captain after Ana "died"
She might have been the highest ranking member after Jack and Reyes "died" too.
and now currently is winston right?
To be fair, those clips were mostly set in Toronto
fair
well if pharah really going to overwatch i believe theres a chance to ana shows up too
to see her daughter again
I don't think Ana will be present in the story.
her mother wouldn't let her join Overwatch
there's probably some animosity over that
you can see it already
no i mean actually now
oh
based on Ana's reaction, he's disfigured but still recognizable
i couldnt find a good pic of it
but
this is what he looks like a while after his newfound ability
that's pretty much the same as the first picture you sent
no, he has scars
Thats 3 years before the incident
scars
he has scars on the skin too
Its literally the same skin in the first picture
Reaper in the present day is:
- Disfigured, but recognizeable
- Has pale white skin
A real picture doesn’t exist
That was the best I can do
If u wanna see the effects of his ability on him
His face
Sure but I thought he meant reaper’s face
That's 3 years before the incident [that disfigured him.]
That's Reyes' normal face.
Reaper's power and his disfigured face are not from the same thing.
His power is the only reason why he isn't dead.
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Retribution/Quotes
Moira : How are you feeling, commander?
Reyes : Fine. No ill effects so far.
Moira : Let me know if that changes.
Moira: That could be an unforeseen side effect...
Reyes: I was making a joke.
More implied than explicit that the experiments began before Retribution
But its there.
But that is a long time since his ability from what I think you meant
Which shows the progress the ability had on his face
30+ years ago, Reaper was part of the Soldier Enhancement Program (same as Soldier 76)
~8 years ago, he hired Moira to look at a "genetic" problem for him. She helped him cultivate his powers
~6 years ago, him and Jack got into a fight at the Swiss HQ. People thought they were both dead.
~6 years ago is when he got disfigured.
Its not when he got his powers
btw killing antonio is what ruined overwatch to be banned?
Its one of things things.
There were a lot of problems
it didn't help
Those scars are not from his ability
Correct.
and the public was already getting frustrated with Overwatch
I didn’t mean they were
but that time omnic war was still going on?
So where did he get his abilities?
or was after the war?
This is what I meant, nothing really changed about him
The Omnic crisis was 30 years ago
Lots changed.
For starters, his body was disfigured ~5-6 years ago
"Reaper" today does not have the same face as Reyes 8 years ago
Because between 8 years ago, and today, Reyes nearly died
About his face omg I know he has smoky shit around him now
Older.
Rodrigo asked about his face
So what’s ur point
Reaper in the present day is:
- Disfigured, but recognizeable
- Has pale white skin
That's all we know
I provided the latest available pic
Wait is the new archives event canon? Did tracer go back in time
What
The archives events are things that happened years ago
Tracer didn't go back in time
I know i mean the new one
they mean the trailer
Which released 2 years ago
Tracer recalls and it reveals the new skins like she went back in time
Archives event rn
Tracer doesn't actually time travel
I thought she did tho
think of it more like rewinding and fastforwarding on the timeline of a video
you're limited to just the timeline of that video, and the rest of the world continues forward around it
that's Tracer
Okay, but didnt she dream about being this maid in the 19th century
Oh well ig thats a dream tho
that was a reference to the VA's appearance on the show Downton Abbey
not a canon dream
also it's from HotS, which shouldn't be taken as a canon source
Fair enough
a lot of tech in Overwatch doesn't work like people think it does
Didn’t torb build bastion
Torb designed the bastion model
Bastion was built by an omnium.
yeah so bastion was BUILT by omnium and DESIGNED by torb
U wanna know what archives needed
A mission from talons perspective
OH MY GOD I JUST REALISED UR NAME AND PFP IS JUVIA
u spelt her name wrong tho
since its juvia or jewvia anyone started eden zero?
eden zero?
didn’t know that
I thought he was still making fairy tail 100yr quest
umm why is happy in edens zero
im in a comp match atm:P
all good
done
fairy tail is done it ended last year they made eden zero and happy aint the only one in eden zero
theres rebecca aka lucy and nats and gray got mixed together basicly
sofar what i saw till now its dark and depressing af but try it
100 yr quest is still being made tho
unless Mashima is making both mangas at the same time
the anime is done tho
the manga isn’t
and no the anime isn’t done 100yr quest will receive an anime adaptation when it’s finished
they called the last released serie final series so thats the end now aint it:P?
hmmm hmm maybe
sort of like the naruto kai and shippuden
borutoXD
WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT
I swear tho if there is a sequel with Natsu and Lucy’s kids I wouldn’t be complainin
boruto is nice tho..
it’s decent but not naruto level
every show has there ups and downs i diddn't like boruto to start with but its growing on me
I stopped watching it so I don’t know if the newer episodes are better
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Ok thanks for the tip
I think there's a bit more to it than that lol
it's a valentine's tradition to give chocolates to the person you love
even in Japan
(these are not girichoco)
But...why only to mercy?
Honmeichoco
if Genji was only buying her chocolates out of obligation, then he would have bought some for other people
since it's just Mercy, it's obviously a romantic gesture
Dude i just said that
I'm explaining for people who don't know what girichoco/honmeichoco mean
Okay sure
Yeah honmeichoco is basically buying chocolates for those you have romantic feelings for
Girichoco is doing it for acquaintances
Or even close friends
it's pretty clear that Mercy and Genji are meant to be in a romantic relationship
Who’s the one in the Hollywood payload?
Oh is it an omnic??
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Yes, the character in the limo is an omnic.
It is an omnic director named Hal-Fred Glitchbot
Which is a reference to Alfred Hitchcock i assume
Yeah, and HAL-9000
another bit of trivia - Hal-fred Glitchbot is voiced by Travis Willingham
Oh ok cool
Which Overwatch Ultimate do you think would be the most painful to experience?
a lot of them would kill you
What year were they made?
Imagine if in some years robots will have conciousness and look at Overwatch and ban it bc it's racist towards them
Hmm well it's not like overwatch makes robots look bad
we don't know exactly - Overwatch is set roughly 60 years in the future, and the omnic crisis happened 30 years before that
More like a historical game or something
so around the 2040s
Ew I'll be 40 tho
nothing bad about being 40
Not like you'll be 70 or more
Nothing good about it either 
rude

Is this server 18+?
anyway, the reason for the omnic crisis isn't known
hmm
the omnics never made any demands
hey guys
I guess Mccree really can smoke all he wants with the insane medical advancements of his age
Loool
mcree is wearing armor right
I bet his breathe smells terrible
i see pipes and stuff on his chest
yes
That doesn't protect from smoke damage
No
Zen wears pants
Mccree ult tumbleweed should have a hitbox that deals 1000 dmg
actually can omnics be classified as naked'
why are they called omnics
we do see some omnics wearing clothes
Bruh no, they don't have genitalia
They were made in Omniums, which were designed by Omnica.
Hence, they are called Omnics
they're brand name robots
whats the year of overwatch
60 years in the future
like where its set
~2076
2070-something
almost 2077
just a robot?
But she was made by the same person who is responsible for the Omniums
Oh yeah omnica is a company
surely echo is more than just a robot
Orisa was rebuilt from an OR15, which were made in omniums
Zen and Bastion were produced in an omnium
Echo was custom built by Dr. Mina Liao
look at her compared to a bastion unit and orisa
No.
no it's a mech
It isn't , and shouldn't be.
Bob is a robot
And yet no sign of ultra mega strip clubs like Vice City or whatever it's called 😂
Bob is an omnic
Oh
thats cyberpunk my guy
He was made by omnica?
Its a kids game
Yeah I know
Cyberpunk did bad first launch
They aren't going to put strip clubs in a game that is meant to be kid friendly
please remain on topic
Yeah even if they existed they're not topics that they can touch
Long story
An experiment that went wrong
It didn't "went wrong"
im here for the long stories
it's a combination of factors
I think Reaper back to when we was doing it wasn't actually happy about it
30+ years ago, Reaper was part of the Soldier Enhancement Program (same as Soldier 76) which did genetically enhance him.
~8 years ago, he hired Moira to look at a "genetic" problem for him. She helped him cultivate his powers.
~6 years ago, him and Jack got into a fight at the Swiss HQ. People thought they were both dead. This also nearly killed him.
if they r shotguns
A combination of these 3 things built up to the Reaper's current condition
how abt his shotguns
Same place as his coat and grenades, presumably.
are they shotguns
Yes
wait he holds grenades
He got an infinite amount of shotguns
i thought those were giant shells
That he doesn't use
so everyone uses energy weapons right?
he had smoke grenades in the cinematic trailer
eg soldier and orisa
is it energy weapons
McCree's gun fires regular bullets
Energy bullets, you can see they're not normal
it works because it does
Normal bullets don't do anything to robots
lul
it's sci-fi, they don't need to explain everything
Well... Kinda
was interested to know if theres lore
their explanation is "pulse munitions"
yes they were part of the same experiment
they both escaped at the same time, although Winston is unaware that Hammond tagged along
is the glasses winston wears the guy who experimented on him
they're replicas
wait they escaped
he might have had the original glasses at one point, but they've been smashed
and overwatch was okay with that
In one of the voice interactions he talks with Hammond telling him "oh that's why the landing was turbulent" or something
Overwatch wasn't involved
the Horizon Lunar Colony was run by Lucheng Interstellar
voice lines don't represent canon conversations
is reaper part of talon
if he knew that's what he might say
yes, he's one of their leaders
and also doomfist?
and baptise?
Plz use the hero names I don't know their birth names
Neither of them are heroes
left to right: Sanjay, Doomfist, Maximilien, Reaper, Moira
Sanjay is Symmetra's boss and a negotiator for Vishkar
Maximilien is the money guy and owns the Casino Monaco
That's the mf in the Storm mission
yes
the Storm Rising mission is Overwatch trying to catch Maximilien so he can tell them where Doomfist is so Overwatch can go arrest Doomfist
is doom rich
his family runs a successful prosthetics company
and who is ashe
Doomfist was released after or before this mission?
like where does ashe go in the lore
Ashe is an outlaw from the American south who was a founder of the Deadlock Gang (along with McCree)
after
She's just a low tier gang member
he breaks out of prison after Winston's recall
she's their leader
what is the shimada clan
Yeah but it's still a member
a gang?
A clan
not low tier
Lol
real helpful
No longer having to focus her energies on squabbles with the other gangs, Ashe is now writing her name across the American Southwest with a string of audacious heists and operations that has put her at top of the authorities’ most-wanted lists and cemented her legacy as an outlaw legend.
Well they just steal and rob, they don't do international terrorism
that doesn't mean they're low tier
she united the gangs of the American south
she's a power player
Japanese family?
They were a Yakuza clan
that's the Shimada clan
Hanzo and Genji's family
Wait isn't Shimada also the family?
After the Genji/Hanzo thing, they were left without leadership and their hometown got taken over by a rival clan
yes i know its genjis and hanzo i asked abt the dragons yesterday
but is the clan like a gang
Then what other answer do you need
like what do they do
yes
I was confused - I thought you were saying the Deadlock Gang was a Japanese family
Crimes, they do crimes
Think mafia but japanese
this is the answer i wanted
Bribery, "protection", running guns and drugs
not oh its a clan
drugs, illegal weapons trade, assassinations
I think they didn't put the real mafia in the game to not be too realistic
The Shimada family was established centuries ago, a clan of assassins whose power grew over the years, enabling them to build a vast criminal empire that profited from lucrative trade in arms and illegal substances.
WHAT? FOR REAL?
and yes, Hanzo was ordered to kill Genji because Genji was a fuckboy bringing disrespect to the family
is overwatch outlaws now the team
lmao fuckboy
like is everyone in overwatch scattered
because of the fight between reaper and soldier
currently
no
they were, but the present-day plot is them getting back together
well, a lot of them anyway
up to what we know abt ov2
that's what the Recall is
ow2 is when most of them are, but some are already joined up by then
namely Winston, Tracer and Mei
-8 years ago: Retribution
-7 years ago: Uprising
-6 years ago: Storm Rising; Doomfist's defeat
-5 years ago: Overwatch falls
Recall
+1 year: Overwatch 2
Zero Hour is when everyone else rolls up
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Overwatch was already falling apart by then
wait his prosthetic all of his right arm?
or a part
also dam overwatch needs a anime
his arm is fully prosthetic, and the gauntlet goes over it
r u sure?
Someone is working on a series
i see black and then his skin tone
synthetic skin
:o
how abt his legs
wait he lost all of those limbs cause of omnic crisis right?
How much of Sojourn is mechanical?
And what do those pieces of metal on her face do?
the only heroes missing any legs are Genji (both) and Junkrat (right)


