#lore-discussion

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peak escarp
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I'd like to know more about Junkrat, personally

arctic loom
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doctor you cant deny you want to play the missions again

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on archives this year

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right?

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i always get hyped for that event

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even being the same missions

peak escarp
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of course

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I love the Archives missions

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Retribution is the best thing they've ever made

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I would play nothing but Archives missions if I had the choice

arctic loom
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well with a hundred of missions on ow 2

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you will have fun

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for the rest

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of your life playing it

peak escarp
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exactly

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OW2 can't come soon enough

arctic loom
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i probably going forget pvp on ow 2 because im going be focusing to upgrade all skill trees

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on each character

peak escarp
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I'm tired of playing against people, give me PvE

arctic loom
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in my opinion the best skins always come on archives event

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im just want the junk skin too bad

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that gun is really awesome

hushed jetty
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Archives is the nextevent, right?,

peak escarp
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yes

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should be here in April

arctic loom
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yep

hushed jetty
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Very cool
Who do you think is getting a skin this year?

arctic loom
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hm...

peak escarp
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hard to say

arctic loom
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ashe

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that ashe from deadlock

peak escarp
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we've gotten pretty much every lore-based skin idea I can think of

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maybe Zen in some formal Shambali robes?

arctic loom
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maybe a echo skin...

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nah we already got one

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recently

hushed jetty
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A zen archives skin would be so good

peak escarp
dire zodiac
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Im not sure what echo could get anyway unless it was like half built one?

peak escarp
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heroes have gotten back to back skins before

dire zodiac
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Maybe a prototype echo or something

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Echo’s echo

hushed jetty
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I've been lowkey hoping for a bap archives skin that's based on concept art mercy, but that may be a stretch

arctic loom
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can you imagine we fighthing robots like echo who

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copy you

peak escarp
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unlikely

arctic loom
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in a mission

dire zodiac
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Ooh that would be cool

peak escarp
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I hope they have a better solution to Echo's ult in PvE

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just copying allies is kinda boring

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I'd like to be able to copy elite units

young knoll
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coding that would be a bit difficult, especially if the elite units have multiple attacks that can be construed as abilities

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though it would also be awesome, so I hope they do

dire zodiac
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Itd be cool since theyre so powerful

worthy rose
peak escarp
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it's PvE

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they can make her as powerful as they want

austere pelican
young knoll
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pve is not that simple. too powerful and it stops being a challenge. not sure if they plan of having difficulty modes or whatever, but having her just be able to copy anything and clear the whole stage is unlikely to be a good design philosophy

cosmic crest
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They do still need to balance for PvE.

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But yes, they can make the heroes much stronger.

iron plume
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They don’t need to be balanced against the enemies, but having a hero that absolutely stands out in terms of strength is still bad

void gazelle
peak escarp
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let them

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nobody cares about Null Sector's objections

limpid agate
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THe problem with copying echo ult ins't balance.

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Its hard to just make the ability work

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There does still need to be balance though. You can't just give Torbjorn instagib turrets for example.

peak escarp
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it still has to be fun

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and feel rewarding

austere pelican
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yeah

cosmic crest
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Echo has overtaken D.Va as Overwatch's new problem child.

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She is a very technically strenuous hero.

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When Echo is duplicating you hero switch is temporarily unavailable, this isn't a balancing thing, the game cannot handle you switching heroes while she duplicates you.

peak escarp
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it's a compilation of all the comics so far

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they already released an anthology with the first 12 comics

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this is that plus the rest

worthy rose
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Listen to know the lore on spotify. It's a podcast. He does all of the lore updates, I've been listening to him for awhile.

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It's by Nerd Sloth

peak escarp
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well this is the place to ask

worthy rose
worthy rose
tawdry bay
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Who would win in a fight? Dva or wrecking ball? I know they'll never meet but who has the better mek

limpid agate
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D.Va has a top-of-the-line military grade piloted mech with a fusion reactor.

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Hammond's mech is scrap metal built around an escape pod.

peak escarp
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if it's just the mechs fighting, Wrecking Ball would win, because it is autonomous and Tokki isn't

rain star
rain star
peak escarp
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my point was Wrecking Ball, a mech with AI, could beat Tokki, a mech with no AI

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because Tokki wouldnt be able to fight back

rain star
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oh

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i assumed d.va would pilot tokki

peak escarp
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if it was pilot vs pilot with no mechs, Hana would win

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just punt the hamster

wet valve
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hammond is super smart probably smarter then dva could pretend to die dva goes back to her life then he eat her toes while she sleeps

valid terrace
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He's also a small punt-able rodent

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Even for a small gamer girl

wet valve
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also hammond is probbly fast since he has a need for speed he probbly trains on a hamster wheel

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baby dva as a gamer

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would get winded walking 5 feet

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also hammond is not that small or light they have said before he is acttuly pikachu sized so about 1 foot

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thats kinda big

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for a hamster

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also do you want to see a person killing a hamster or a hamster eating a girl alive

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they should make a comic tho of rein meeting bastion since he has pstd after fighting them maybe this will fight or torb shows that bastion has changed

peak escarp
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nothing indicates she is out of shape

wet valve
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why do you want to see a girl kill a hamster so bad?

peak escarp
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who said anything about killing?

wet valve
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still beating up

peak escarp
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someone asked who would win in a fight

wet valve
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if they fight someones getting hurt unless you mean a online argumeant

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Hammond cusses at dva for 5 hours for playing dps moria the comic

peak escarp
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

wet valve
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man ok i will stop

limpid agate
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D.Va (pilot) would beat Hammond (pilot) in a fight.
D.Va (in mech) would beat Hammond (in mech) in a fight.
Tokki (without pilot) would beat Wrecking Ball (without pilot) in a fight.

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MEKA was originally a fleet of unmanned drones

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Before the Gwisin adapted interference required pilots.

wet valve
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i feel like ball could win against dva in his mech at least he is the mech fighting champ in junkertown

limpid agate
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D.Va is essentially the mech fighting champ of Busan. Just replace the enemy mechs with mech-sized omnics, and fighting with warring.

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And mech-sized omnics are the small ones

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The Gwisin Kaiju lives up to its fan nickname

wet valve
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ok but ball probbly has a speed advantge over dvas mech

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and speed is important in a fight

limpid agate
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Wrecking Ball has awful armor, awful weapons, and cannot fly.

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Tokki has military grade armor, missiles AND fusion cannons, and can fly.

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Wrecking Ball is the champion of Junkertown, a city made of garbage where garbage fights garbage.

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Tokki is a literal war machine whose pilot is the star of the Korean army in repelling the Gwisin.

wet valve
limpid agate
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The escape pod is inside the mech

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Its not the mech itself

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The mech is built around the escape pod

wet valve
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it still would need tough amour to survive high drops reach high speeds survive other mech attacks and be able to make a adaptive shield basically a barrier

limpid agate
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This battle is basically asking "What would in in a fight, a car from mad max or a futuristic fighter jet?"

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I don't care how many cars this thing can brush off. A fighter jet is a fuckin fighter jet.

wet valve
peak escarp
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DVa's age is irrelevant in this scenario

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Hammond is 5 years younger than her

limpid agate
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People have lots of misconceptions about D.Va being young

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People forget that South Korea literally has conscription.

wet valve
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also hammond mech is not made out of trash he does have one made out of junk

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in his junkertown version

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his mech he uses now could be made of wolverine skeleton for all we know

peak escarp
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it was built before he left Junkertown

limpid agate
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Tracer was actually younger than D.Va when she joined Overwatch as a test pilot, but no one seems to care about that. And the UK doesn't even have conscription.

wet valve
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anways i feel like saying hes from junkertown or makes his mech of trash is dumb like he has a soundboard and you cant make one of those out some trash and scrap metal

limpid agate
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Like, all of those South Korean Overwatch pros in our real world, the ones who play in the Overwatch League? They have to serve a compusory tour in the military if they haven't already.

peak escarp
wet valve
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anyways he is super smart he probably would not choose trash to make his mech he probably melts down the junk to a stronger material

peak escarp
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he bought it

limpid agate
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Wrecking Ball is the champion of Junkertown, the town that lives up to its name of being Junk.

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D.Va is flying one of the most advanced mechs in the world.

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If not the most advanced.

wet valve
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like would you even go into battle knowing your using a mech made out of trash

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or junk no

limpid agate
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The opponents are also made of trash

wet valve
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yeah and hammond beat all of them

limpid agate
wet valve
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does that look like his mech

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no its all plastic rusted and trash

limpid agate
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That looks like the stuff his mech defeated

wet valve
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does his mech even have rust

limpid agate
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Yes

wet valve
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where

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why cant i copy and paste images

slender prairie
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Well, technically speaking if D. Va ever destroyed Hammond’s suit he could scatter away and crawl into her power suit and cause it to malfunction or something

wet valve
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that too he is smart way smarter then we know he was with winston one of the smartest minds of overwatch

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growing up he could be just as smart

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if not smarter

wet valve
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that is not rusted

slender prairie
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D. Va would probably beat him one on one with their battle suits but Hammond could “outplay” her in that sense

limpid agate
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@slender prairie Hammond doesn't have wings.

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Tokki can fly.

wet valve
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who need to fly when you go like mach 3

limpid agate
# wet valve that is not rusted

This is Wrecking Ball's introduction video on the Overwatch website. Not only is it immediately presented as falling apart, the inner legs are visibly damaged with what look like painted-over rust stains, and the guns are literally barely holding together. They look like they can fall apart in their standard animations in game too.

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And Hammond cannot go Mach 3.

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His mech can't even go mach 1

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I don't think you know how fast that is

wet valve
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fine jesus he can lose ok is that what you wanted me to say

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its just weird saying he doesn't stand a chance

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if he could even fight or mess with overwacth heros

limpid agate
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Its a curbstomp battle.

wet valve
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he has to have some power

limpid agate
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Its like saying Mei can defeat Widowmaker in a ranged duel.

wet valve
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also we have never seen Hammond's full potential for all we know he can make a way better more powerful mech

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he just chooses not too

limpid agate
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That wasn't the discussion.

wet valve
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i hope we get more hammond lore

limpid agate
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The discussion was Wrecking Ball.

wet valve
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wrecking ball is hammond

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if your talking about his mech

limpid agate
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If Hammond had access to Overwatch resources like Winston did instead of Junkertown's, maybe he ccould make a better mech than the ball.

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But he doesn't, and he didn't.

wet valve
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we dont even know the full capabilities of that

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mabey he does in overwatch 2

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mabey he has a reunion with winston

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it said he liked to travel wreaking ball seeking adventure mabey her heard of the havoc going on in rio

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and came to help

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to have a little adventure and maybe wrecking ball joins just for the fun of it

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we dont know alot about about ball we dont even know most of his cappilties or feats

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for all we know he could even be part of talon

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heh that would be funny Hammond as a talon agent with a little black suit

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what if we got a comic of a au where all the talon agents formed overwatch and all the over watch agents formed talon or road hog and junkrat became kings of junkertown

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null sector is a good guy made to stop

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talon

lyric sluice
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lol

wet valve
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yeah i want hammond to be part of talon anybody else

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it could be intresting

lyric sluice
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hammond honeslty i dont think he has the level of emotional thiking and hostile caring of the world to join talon

wet valve
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we only know he likes adventure we never know if he is truly on the good or bad side or if he's neutral like hanzo

peak escarp
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I don't think Talon would want him

wet valve
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yeah i guess like they have a man with a fist that could level skyscrapers why do they need a hamster but heh they need a engineer maybe they will find his mech impressive

limpid agate
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A man that they say can level skyscrapers

lyric sluice
wet valve
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and he almost took on 3 members of the overwatch team by himself and almost won too

limpid agate
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Who said it was "just some toy"

wet valve
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he just got monke slapped and lost

wet valve
peak escarp
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he punched his way out of prison without the gauntlet

wet valve
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and he knows tons of martial arts

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he could be one of the most powerful people lore wise

peak escarp
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one of the strongest, sure

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and politically powerful/influential too

wet valve
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wait some have theroy that null sector is made by talon but they dont have a engineer for what we know

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what if ball does become

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there engineer

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and ball is behind null sector

peak escarp
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why would Null Sector be made by Talon?

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that doesn't make any sense

wet valve
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talon trying to destroy the world

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or take control of it

peak escarp
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the Null Sector leader went to Doomfist asking for help - why would he need to do that if they were already working together?

wet valve
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and by doomfist words he says chaos is the way to have balance starting a second war could cause tons of chaos

peak escarp
wet valve
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restricted on the school computer

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welp nevermind

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i get the memo

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did he say yes tho

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or do we not know yet

peak escarp
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that's why Null Sector is attacking in Zero Hour

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they had to put their plans on hold because Doomfist got arrested

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but now that he's out, they can launch their war

wet valve
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so if he did say yes wow over watch is in some deep trouble they got to go against talon and

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null sector

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this sequel's story already sounds like it will be interesting

trim sluice
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hey doc

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do you think maximilien will play an important role in ow2's story

peak escarp
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definitely

limpid agate
arctic loom
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yeah but not probably

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a hero of him

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him not a fighter

peak escarp
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no, Max isn't likely to be a hero

arctic loom
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he is a business partner

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of talon

peak escarp
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he's a member of the Talon council

fast dragon
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Interesting

cosmic arch
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Will there be playable null sector characters in ow2?

agile quartz
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hello

proud pike
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Hello

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Any questions/ideas?

dire zodiac
cosmic arch
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Well, surely some of them do, like the omnics that organise everything, or does max just control it all?

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And also, doesn't Widowmaker not have much free will either?

tawdry bay
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But playing as that lady who brings people in will be sick

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Can you copy them with echo ult?

tawdry bay
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No you know in the behind the scenes

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That boss lady with orbs for eyes

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That pulls you in

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The omnic

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Enemy

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Person

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Probably should have elaborated

iron plume
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Null sector wraith?

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we don't know how echo will work in OW2 yet

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in archives she can copy friendlies, and also enemies who are already heroes

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but it would be a bit of a missed opportunity if there's nothing else

proud pike
lyric sluice
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its called the "puller"

tawdry bay
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Ye that

iron plume
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The in-game name is wraith

iron plume
proud pike
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huh

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echo?

iron plume
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yes

proud pike
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Echo.... Dr. Liao's?

iron plume
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She can copy the NS Bastions and Orisas

proud pike
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In.... Archives?

iron plume
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but no one else in Uprising, and no talon units

proud pike
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Again

iron plume
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would be interesting to see her copy some enemy elites in 2

proud pike
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Echo. In archives?

iron plume
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yes

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you know archives have an all heroes mode right

proud pike
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But its not canon, right?

iron plume
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no

proud pike
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?

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Wdym?

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Archives with all heroes are canon?

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Huh?

iron plume
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It's not canon
But we're not talking about canon

proud pike
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Actually its gameplay so

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idk

iron plume
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Canon echo likely doesn't have the "direct copy" kind of ability at all

wet valve
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sadly her copying null sector units might happen beacuse then they need to make a special model of each enemy for that and if enemy's had multiple attacks they would have to put attacks in category's such as primary and secondary's and a ult and some may not even have more then 1 attack and then what would you do if you copy the breacher just blow up like it would be cool but moist likely it would be a lot of work to implement it

iron plume
wet valve
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what if a ex overwatch member that refused to join back together is behind it

iron plume
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We don't know how much free will the rest of them have but by itself it wouldn't preclude them from becoming playable

wet valve
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who had a change of heart

iron plume
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t. Reaper, Moira

wet valve
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there talon angets now

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that would make sense

iron plume
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We already have ex-Overwatch who are now Talon

wet valve
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did we see ana at all in zero hour

iron plume
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no

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Ana and Soldier don't join up

proud pike
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they're "dead"

wet valve
proud pike
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And want to keep this status

iron plume
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well, that too

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Soldier is not a villain

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They still fight against Talon and "for good"
They just don't agree with Overwatch on how to do it

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and potentially also feel like them joining overwatch would make things worse

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Since they both have doubts and regrets about how OW went last time, and they don't want new-OW to repeat the mistakes they've made

wet valve
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sad i feel like soldier could of been a interesting villain

iron plume
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we already have "soldier as a villain"

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he's just called reaper

wet valve
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but reaper dark edgey soldier is like the cool grandpa we all wish we had in our family

iron plume
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comes with the villain territory

wet valve
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that makes me think if you were to hang out with one ow hero for a week who would it be

iron plume
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It doesn't make sense for "the cool grandpa" to decide to be a terrorist out of nowhere

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Baptiste

wet valve
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i think i would hang with sombra

iron plume
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Sombra would just try her best to ignore you and go on with her business

wet valve
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i was saying that if the would hang out with you

iron plume
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well, depends on your definitions of 'hang out'

wet valve
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i feel like sombra would more use me for a prank on reaper that a ow agent snuck into the base

iron plume
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i'd watch the hell out of Mei's blog/science youtube channel that's for sure

wet valve
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then he just sees me

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i would go to a lucio concert

iron plume
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and then you have a shotgun hole through your head

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cause reaper is paranoid and doesn't fuck around

wet valve
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and threten that if i told anyone

wet valve
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maybe i would hang with wrecking ball instead

iron plume
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I don't think reaper would be particularly concerned with stealth while killing someone in their base

wet valve
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wreaking ball would be cool maybe he could make me my own wreaking ball mech

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why do you need a car when you can just roll on the streets

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i wonder what being in dva's mech would be like

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unlike in game its probably not controlled with like 5 buttons so i dont even think i could use it

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could you imagine if you get in the mech and theres just a ps4 remote on the dashboard

iron plume
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we see the control panel in game

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it's got two flight sticks

wet valve
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oh then it would be pretty easy to use

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probbly would need a bit of traning

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i hope we get more lore of wreaking ball we dont know alot about him

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we basically know his origin story

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and that he likes adventure

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not to much else

dire zodiac
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i don't think he's going to be super relevant to the main story

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unless we get a junkertown thing?

iron plume
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well, he's not even in junkertown anymore, so not then

wet valve
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he could have a reunion with winston and join overwatch

iron plume
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I wouldn't say we definitely won't see him but the chances are low

wet valve
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like it would be like 2 long lost child hood friends meeting together again

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beacuse there basically are or at least grew up together

cosmic arch
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Does anything say who was the person that mercy wanted to meet at the end of overwatch storm rising?

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When max wanted to negotiate with her?

worthy rose
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you can send invitations here

wary crow
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I have a question about the lore

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How did MCree lose his arm?

wet valve
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he joked that he liked torbs so he got one for himslef

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we dont really know

wary crow
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k

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I was wondering, ive seen many theories on it

summer hollow
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guys who is sojourn/

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it says she is a captain of overwatch?

wet valve
summer hollow
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whats her part in all that happened

wet valve
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she could a former overwatch agent

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a new recruit

wary crow
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I think she may appear in OW2

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maybe

wet valve
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do we even know of sojourns real name

summer hollow
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btw so how many are overwatch members in the current roster?

wet valve
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32

summer hollow
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lucio is overwatch member?

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dva as well?

wet valve
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oh you meant overwatch members not playable heros

summer hollow
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yaya

wet valve
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um i dont know i dont want to go count lol

wary crow
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I think its a 3rd of the roster?

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Maybe?

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idk

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I think lucio is associated with overwatch, but not an AGENT of overwatch because of his mission with the recalled overwatch agents against null sector

iron plume
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Her surname is most likely Chase

wet valve
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oh

iron plume
iron plume
# summer hollow btw so how many are overwatch members in the current roster?

Confirmed in new Overwatch as of Zero hour: Winston, Tracer, Mei, Genji, Mercy, Reinhardt, Brigitte, Echo
Confirmed to join during OW2: Bastion, Sojourn
People we've seen in OW2 mission previews, will/may join up with Overwatch in some capacity but not necessarily sign up: McCree, Pharah, Lucio, Zarya, Baptiste, Zenyatta

wet valve
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mabey mcree does it to see if he can finally get his name cleared

hazy ibex
wary crow
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Ah

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K

iron plume
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This isn't true

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We don't know what happened to his arm, but it's not that
Ashe screaming about his "other arm" is just in regard to him having lost it

wet valve
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you know what i would want to hang with bob for a week

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he seems preety cool

surreal root
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After watching videos on the lore it appears Overwatch is just bootleg Avengers.

wary crow
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900iq thought there

valid terrace
cosmic arch
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oh, thnx

agile quartz
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hello

wet valve
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if Winston could beat doomfist a man said to level skyscrapers and broke out of prison by punching a wall without the fist how powerful is Winston when he is rage filled what if he is like the hulk

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who can just keep getting stronger and stronger

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like there no limit

worthy rose
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Doomfist can't actually destroy a skyscraper

wet valve
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i know

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i said a man said

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to

summer hollow
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doomfist can fist really well

austere pelican
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no granny is a better fister

wet valve
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i get called out for shitposting for saying
Hammond cusses at dva for 5 hours for playing dps moria the comic,
but you guys can talk about fisting and nothing man

summer hollow
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i mean

pliant sparrow
lapis mantle
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i like how tanks compliment eachother, theres 2 soldiers that faught against omnics, Reinhardt and Zarya, who have trained almost their entire lives. and then theres a korean gamer and science monkey

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and it works

summer hollow
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i dont like most tanks

wet valve
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tanks are cool

wet valve
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does ash have red

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eyes

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mabey shes albino

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white hair red eyes

peak escarp
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she could be a designer baby

wet valve
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that too

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lore wise who do you think is the most powerful hero in overwatch

peak escarp
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Symmetra

wet valve
#

i guess she bassicly can bend reality so not to far off

summer hollow
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why can she do that

worthy rose
#

I'd say Symmetra and Reaper and primal rage Winston are both seconds since they're equal

misty roost
#

Lucio is obviously the strongest lore wise

cosmic crest
#

Why?

iron plume
#

power of friendship

misty roost
#

so i was partially joking there when i said that, but the more i thought about it. he is capable with saving lives with just sound waves alone. and then again you are talking about power level and not strength as a whole. i cant really go more in detail with that though lol.

peak escarp
#

"power" is a subjective thing

iron plume
#

well, lorewise the "saving lives" is a bit of a stretch

summer hollow
#

who is the most evil of the heroes

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who did the most fucked up stuff

iron plume
#

Moira

summer hollow
#

what did he do/

iron plume
#

For the latter question, anyway
Former is too vague

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She

summer hollow
#

he

iron plume
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

summer hollow
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im not shitposting

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he/she is trans

iron plume
#

Yes you are.

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  1. Moira is not trans
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  1. Even if she was, trans women are women, not "he/she"
summer hollow
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i said he/she cuz u cant decide

peak escarp
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Moira is female

summer hollow
#

thats subjective

peak escarp
#

there has been no evidence to the contrary

iron plume
#

I'm not the one who can't decide here

peak escarp
#

everything identifies her as female

iron plume
#

She's a woman.

summer hollow
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a trans woman

iron plume
#

almost certainly a cis woman, but a woman regardless

summer hollow
#

cis/

#

?

peak escarp
#

she was born a woman

iron plume
#

context clues, figure it out

summer hollow
#

she was born a woman yes

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but she is clearly trans

peak escarp
#

no she isn't

summer hollow
#

have u seen her

iron plume
#

...do you think all vaguely androgynous-looking women are trans?

summer hollow
#

you say that as if all women are androgynous looking

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xd

peak escarp
#

she looks like Tilda Swinton

iron plume
#

No I do not

peak escarp
#

are you saying Tilda Swinton is trans?

summer hollow
#

dunno who tilda swinton is

peak escarp
#

just because someone doesn't look conventionally feminine doesn't mean they're trans

summer hollow
#

she said she is queer

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lmao

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3 second google search told me that

peak escarp
#

queer isn't the same as trans

summer hollow
#

its a broader term

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includes trans people also

iron plume
#

She's not trans.

summer hollow
#

ok sure

peak escarp
#

a square is a shape but not all shapes are squares

summer hollow
#

she didnt say exactly what shape she is

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she said she is a shape

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she might be trans for all i know or she might not

peak escarp
#

well nothing says Moira is queer

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at all

summer hollow
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thats why i asked here

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to see if she was

peak escarp
#

and then you ignored our answer

iron plume
#

You didn't ask, you claimed a wrong thing and then refused to listen to corrections

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while also calling trans women men

summer hollow
#

?

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isnt that what trans women want to become

iron plume
#

no

summer hollow
#

??????

iron plume
#

trans women identify as women
while being genetically male

summer hollow
#

aaaaaa ok so trans women are born male

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ok i got that mixed up

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my bad

iron plume
#

well, now that we've cleared that up
Moira isn't a trans man either

summer hollow
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hmmmm

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im not 100% sure

peak escarp
#

she identifies as a woman, and she was born a woman

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her Archives spray shows her as a girl

vernal smelt
#

Pretty sure dr six is secretly Jeff himself

misty roost
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wait, isn't jeff wanted or something?

peak escarp
#

unfortunately no, I'm not Jeff

tawdry bay
#

Jeffs personal doctor

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He knows way too much

peak escarp
#

nah I'm just a girl who likes the lore way too much

unborn heart
#

what the fuk is this chat?

peak escarp
#

this is lore discussion

faint basin
#

however u can not be a woman without being a man, hence the ´man´. therefore scientifically speaking a woman is really a man, just with a ´wo´, which in consequence, distinguishes the gender

peak escarp
#

the "man" of woman refers to humans

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not males

woeful trout
#

wtf

peak escarp
#

woman means "wife of human"

faint basin
#

bruv r u takin the mickey out me fam

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fam mans got like 12 mandem posted unno

peak escarp
faint basin
#

origins are social constructs, words are not real, thus your point has no relevancy

peak escarp
#

okay

#

Moira is still a woman though

faint basin
#

who dat

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ah yeh the healer ting

proud pike
#

huh?

lyric sluice
#

all ik is that its a misson to screw all dps moira

peak escarp
#

!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
#

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

faint basin
#

aight bet

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man like tracer ye, plane stuff man need the particle accelator in da chest, like iron man, ya gets?

proud pike
#

sorry but... da hell is going on?

faint basin
#

lore stuff innit

cerulean ice
#

uh

peak escarp
#

it's on her chest

void gazelle
#

she wears it

peak escarp
#

she can take it off

void gazelle
#

it has to be near her

faint basin
#

ye but man gets sent to parallel universive when she take the ting off, y´know

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cease to exist type ting

peak escarp
#

she can take it off

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she just needs to be near it

faint basin
#

kinda thicc tho

limpid agate
#

She disappears out of time

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Not to another universe

faint basin
#

shiii

void gazelle
#

one of the overwatch team people say that she needs to be near it, not wearing it

limpid agate
#

It was Michael Chu, then lead writer.

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He also wrote that comic.

peak escarp
#

wait not that one

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ah, the source is from the old forums

#

In certain locations, including Emily's apartment and Winston's lab in Watchpoint: Gibraltar, the rules are a little different because she is being anchored using a different method, which is why she doesn't have it on her in those scenes in Reflections.
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that "different method" is probably through the charging dock emitting a field that keeps her anchored

wet valve
#

its all fun and game till a power outage and she doesn't have it on

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specially since they said like what it takes months to pin her down and get her back

faint summit
#

I looked this up before believing it and all of my google searches and age differences are saying Reaper is Mcree’s Dad, is this true?

worthy rose
#

No hes not lol

peak escarp
#

definitely not

worthy rose
#

Whatever source you found that said Reaper was his dad is fucking stupid

peak escarp
#

there's a lot of people who think Reyes adopted him, but that's just not true

worthy rose
#

He gave Mccree a choice to join him or rot in prison

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And Mccree chose the former

lyric sluice
#

wasnt there a comic panel with reaper watching this family from an ally like a total stalker

worthy rose
#

Yeah in the christmas issue

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Stalking his family because he cares and is a good person

lyric sluice
#

awwwwww

worthy rose
#

I love Reaper 😄

lyric sluice
#

lol

#

i c that

wet valve
#

welp if you saw your lost long person from your family with a black suit a skull on his face and basically being a mist now

#

chances are you would freak out

worthy rose
#

And now poor Reaper is isolated 😦

wet valve
#

he as just trying to make sure there ok with out scaring them

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its sad

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also since hes a criminal his family would try to have him turned in

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or somebody who isn't close to reaper

peak escarp
wet valve
#

without context it looks like reapers getting ready to kill them

peak escarp
#

context is important

wet valve
#

we need overwatch without context

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just random overwatch images with no context

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or parts of shorts

peak escarp
wet valve
#

does widow still have memories of her husband maybe she can backstab talon and fight for good

peak escarp
#

the context is everyone spending time with friends/family (for those who have them, anyway)

wet valve
#

unless thats a other grave

peak escarp
#

Widowmaker remembers her husband

wet valve
#

is she actually sad about it does she regret it?

peak escarp
#

she remembers but she has no emotion about it

wet valve
#

oh yeah forgot

#

they got rid of those

peak escarp
#

she remembers loving him, but currently feels nothing about it

#

maybe she's trying to feel again

wet valve
#

ok her remembering and maybe fighting for good could be a cool arc

#

also i think i have never seen hanzo smile

peak escarp
#

I don't know if she would fight for good

#

she might want revenge on Talon for what they did to her though

wet valve
#

widow kills doomfist

cosmic crest
#

I don't think Widow is going to turn, but I like the idea that she's only allied with Talon because they give her cool shit and missions to go on.

wet valve
#

did she even really join i thought they like kidnapped her or somthing

peak escarp
#

she's allied with Talon because they allow her to kill

#

also they're technically keeping her captive, even if she doesn't want to escape

wet valve
#

ahh

#

also who is that by mercy random green lady

#

unless thats her mom or somthing

peak escarp
#

it's just a nurse working in Cairo

#

Mercy's parents were killed during the omnic crisis

wet valve
#

also it makes me think what do the rest of the hero's do for Christmas like does talon do secret Santa

#

and yes thats a joke

peak escarp
#

same goes for Baptiste and Sombra

#

they're all orphans of the crisis

wet valve
#

does bob give a present to ashe does ashe give bob a present

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that would be wholesome

#

give him a mcree hat

#

can bob talk i know he usually doesn't but wouldn't most robots by that time would be made with some way to communicate

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even bastion can talk with other omnics

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oh thanks so bob cant talk

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or either can but never does

#

i have a headcannon that doomfist despise's Christmas and is like the Grinch

#

unless there real lore to counter that

peak escarp
#

we don't know if Bob can speak or not

#

I think the upcoming novel will answer that question

wet valve
#

how does bastion celebrate Christmas

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just sitting with his bird like hanging out

peak escarp
#

with the Lindholms

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Torbjorn adopted it

wet valve
#

i wonder does the rest of his family treats him nice

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or do they freak out whenever they see him

peak escarp
#

we'll see in OW2

wet valve
#

i could see bastion becoming beloved by kids if he joins overwatch

#

and if he no longer has ptsd

peak escarp
#

Reinhardt panics, but Torbjorn explains what's going on

wet valve
#

then rein gives him a huge hug

#

lol

peak escarp
#

Reinhardt meeting Bastion was one of the things I was hoping to see, so I'm happy

wet valve
#

also man bastion is tall

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almost as tall as rein

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kids could climb on him like a playground

peak escarp
#

Bastion is 7'3"

wet valve
#

JESUS

peak escarp
#

Reinhardt is 7'4" in armor

wet valve
#

i dont even think he would fit through my doorways

arctic loom
#

yeah but if zarya going be on story mode

peak escarp
#

so Torb in that shot should be smaller

arctic loom
#

i wonder if she going meet

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bastion

wet valve
#

unlike rein

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i dont think zar will trust

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bastion for a second

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at all

arctic loom
#

she dont even trust genji

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well i know is not

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canon lines

wet valve
#

wonder what zar skill trees would be like

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in story

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or what importance she would play in the story

arctic loom
#

well she appear on that mission

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with zen genji

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pharah

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on ow 2 video

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not sure if is the story mode mission

#

or is a hero mission

wet valve
#

no healer on that mission every mission should have one healer

arctic loom
#

so maybe is a hero mission?

wet valve
#

if they dont get healed at chekpoints in the story or somthing

peak escarp
#

looks like all these heroes will be teaming up

arctic loom
#

oh nvm

#

zarya is there

wet valve
#

i see like 2 charcters that look new

arctic loom
#

so no orisa?

peak escarp
#

Winston, Mei, Brigitte, Pharah, D.Va, Tracer, Zarya, Lucio, Genji, Baptiste, Mercy, Echo, Reinhardt and McCree

arctic loom
#

i expected her to help

peak escarp
#

plus Sojourn

arctic loom
#

overwatch

peak escarp
wet valve
#

oh it was brig i thought the giant orange thing was new

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and the blue guy with orange they dont look like themselves in sketch's

#

heck winston looks human almost

arctic loom
#

is have any moment showing

#

orisa on team?

peak escarp
#

the novel hinted at Orisa helping the team

#

but we didn't see her on the panel

wet valve
#

if orisa doesn't have a skill where a player can ride on her back in pve i aint playing

peak escarp
#

this is a cute moment

arctic loom
#

oh yes

#

so brig finally meeting

#

her father

#

again

wet valve
#

like could you imagine a crusader build themed around being rein while riding orisa

arctic loom
#

maybe she going convince

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torbjorn

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go back to overwatch

wet valve
#

or give her a jetpack for her cat

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the good ending

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jetpack cat in game

#

wait so solider 76 is gay does he have a boyfriend has he dated a boy before

peak escarp
#

he had a boyfriend during the crisis, but it didn't work out

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his name was Vincent

wet valve
#

hmmmm ok

wet valve
#

any topic you guys want to talk about

austere pelican
wet valve
#

rein

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hmmmmmm

void gazelle
#

no

wet valve
#

just kidding i dont know

#

probbly just some normal guy or a guy with a small army rank

austere pelican
#

we need a lore regular's help!

void gazelle
#

There is picture of pharrah having dinner with someone

#

that someone is her dad

wet valve
#

oh

#

so just a normal joe

#

thats cool

peak escarp
#

he's a Canadian First Nations man

austere pelican
#

is that all we know?

#

ooh

#

wait pharah canadian then

wet valve
peak escarp
#

he's a public servant of some kind

wet valve
#

hmmmm

#

who is junkrats family

peak escarp
#

Pharah was having dinner with him in Reflections

austere pelican
#

do we know anything about junkrat personal life

wet valve
peak escarp
#

fun fact - the hockey game you can see on the TV is the IIHF World Juniors tournament, which starts every year on Boxing Day

wet valve
#

thanks for the random info

austere pelican
#

thanks

void gazelle
#

I am the shitty doctor_six, i know stuff, but forget details

peak escarp
#

lol

wet valve
#

is junkrats family perfectly sane or are they looney like him

austere pelican
#

wdym junkrat is perfectly sane

peak escarp
#

we don't know anything about Junkrat's family

wet valve
#

what if he was his own mother

peak escarp
#

pretty sure that's not how reproduction works

wet valve
#

and he just popped into existence

austere pelican
#

asexual reproduction makes it possible

wet valve
#

but its a game pfffffft who needs logic

austere pelican
#

so you cant count it out doctor six

peak escarp
#

humans don't reproduce asexually

austere pelican
#

wait forgot im a genji main now must use genji emotes

#

junkrat isnt a human though?

#

it's of a different breed

peak escarp
#

he is human

austere pelican
#

wheres the proof

worthy rose
#

roadhog im pretty sure is human to obut i always think of him as an anthropomorphic pig

austere pelican
#

thats completely possible!

#

we do not have enough information!

peak escarp
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose
#

holy shit

austere pelican
#

fan theories in a nutshell

peak escarp
#

there's no evidence that Junkrat is anything but human

worthy rose
#

i desperately want a genji/hanzo adventure game about their backstory with the shimada clan

wet valve
#

how does rez work like in real cannon

worthy rose
#

at most parts u play as genji and others u play as hanzo

wet valve
#

can she actually just bring people back to life

worthy rose
#

i honestly dont know

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so uh

#

whats with sigma

austere pelican
#

how would rez work irl

worthy rose
#

he just randomly popped up out of nowhere

peak escarp
#

Mercy "resurrected" Mei in Zero Hour

wet valve
#

or is it more like a major heal to a person who is almost dead

peak escarp
#

it's essentially a burst heal to revive a severely injured person

austere pelican
#

like if u guys remember the scene from assassination classroom if u seen that

peak escarp
#

it doesn't bring back the dead

worthy rose
#

did sigma have any cameo with the overwatch lore before he was introduced

austere pelican
#

re builds the cells

worthy rose
#

or is he a whole new tie to the lore

wet valve
#

just rips them out of heaven

peak escarp
wet valve
#

hmm

worthy rose
peak escarp
worthy rose
#

but i would prefer mauga more

#

we have enough info for him to be a character

peak escarp
#

he will be

worthy rose
#

sigma is just there

#

i know

peak escarp
#

the devs said they want to use Mauga

worthy rose
#

its just that they released sigma instead

wet valve
#

well we dont need one but would be cool

worthy rose
#

well its a nice new tank type

wet valve
#

also more stuff to destroy bunker comps so cant complain there

worthy rose
#

anyway about my idea for a solo genji/hanzo game

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im honestly rlly down for one

#

kinda like ghost of tsushima style but genji and hanzo

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with the shimada clan

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we can explore their backstory more

austere pelican
#

yo i would be down for a shimada game

worthy rose
#

sameee

#

imagine playing as genji or hanzo in an adventure game

#

kinda like ghost of tsushima

austere pelican
#

damn that would be nice

arctic loom
#

mauga going be really interessing

#

him shooting by both arms

worthy rose
arctic loom
#

like dva

wet valve
#

yo could we get a doomfist game about him breaking out of prison then we steal the doomfist in a gta style game

#

get more doomfist lore

worthy rose
#

yeah

wet valve
#

doomfist stealing your car would be scary

worthy rose
#

there should be spin off games for every ow character that has a long or interesting backstory

#

maybe like sigma too

#

i wanna know more bout him

peak escarp
#

I'd settle for just more stories

austere pelican
#

wait

limpid agate
#

You can't realistically make 33+ spinoff games.

austere pelican
#

i hope they dont do that in ow 2

worthy rose
#

well even just more story gamemodes im fine with

austere pelican
#

but like each one is bad

#

or sub par

worthy rose
#

true

#

but i honestly want a genji/hanzo solo game

#

im fine with that

wet valve
austere pelican
#

i think most would rather for 1 or 2 most wanted hero get some like those spinoffs

limpid agate
#

As well as Hero of Numbani.

wet valve
peak escarp
limpid agate
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

peak escarp
#

we need more of those

wet valve
#

i want to see a overwatch themed tv show

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or moive

peak escarp
#

a show would be better

austere pelican
#

that would prob be rly good for marketing too

#

agree

peak escarp
#

I don't think they could tell a satisfying story in the length of a movie

austere pelican
#

yeah what would a show be about

wet valve
peak escarp
#

exactly

#

they'd have to focus on one specific event, which would end up leaving some heroes out

#

but with an episodic format, they could cover a different group each episode

wet valve
austere pelican
#

literaly i bet if blizzard put resources into making those cinematics cuz they get crazy amount of viewership the game would prob do good

wet valve
#

a bunch of stuff really

austere pelican
#

but now they come out like once a year

peak escarp
#

it would be a big investment

austere pelican
#

true but return might be good?

wet valve
#

yeah animators and voice actors would be way more busy

austere pelican
#

i think first a rework to their current economic system should come first

#

cuz lootboxes aint much

peak escarp
#

I think realistically, they'd have to partner with an animation studio

#

it would be difficult for Blizzard to produce a series like that in-house

#

the Doomfist origin story was outsourced, and it was fantastic

wet valve
austere pelican
#

yes!

worthy rose
#

Yeah cuz like those shorts prob costed a lot alone

wet valve
#

i don't want some weird sounding mcree

austere pelican
#

prob the world not ready for that investment in a gaming industry

peak escarp
#

the animated shorts take around a year to produce

#

and they're only around 10 minutes

worthy rose
#

I wished echo stayed as her iris form

#

It looks dope

peak escarp
#

a full series (12 episodes, 40 minutes each) would take a lot longer

worthy rose
#

It shouldn’t be 40 mins it should be like 20-25

austere pelican
#

i would be down for like 15, 10 minute shorts of just ow characters doing stuff

worthy rose
#

At least

peak escarp
#

either way, it would be a big investment

worthy rose
#

Or that

austere pelican
#

i think longer episodes would be too hard

#

maybe like short films

#

that have big meaning in short time, like they do in cinematic

#

but once again that'd be very resource intensive

worthy rose
#

OW team just gonna have to beg to WoW for some bucks lmao

#

ITS A JOKE BTW

#

don’t hurt me : (

wet valve
#

diablo is getting a netflix series in the style of a anime we could be next you never know

worthy rose
#

Damn

#

WoW already had a live action movie too

peak escarp
#

I don't want anything live action for OW

#

keep it animated

wet valve
#

specially since then we would need real actors and the only voice actor that looks like there hero is the mcree actor

peak escarp
#

the VAs care a lot for the game, I'd hate to see them replaced with some Hollywood actors

peak escarp
worthy rose
wet valve
#

who else

worthy rose
#

Plus the movie kinda sucked so

#

Oh god can't imagine live action Reaper 😫

#

Ew

austere pelican
worthy rose
#

well I mean

austere pelican
#

imagine bunch of random cosplayers acting out ow cinematics smh

wet valve
#

ew it would probbly sound like some teen trying to be edgy

opaque tundra
#

Video game movies have a reputation for being terrible so I would love it if Overwatch kept it up with shorts and other medium

worthy rose
#

Keanu Reeves live action reaper? ; )

austere pelican
#

yes i agree

peak escarp
austere pelican
worthy rose
wet valve
#

the castlevania series on Netflix wasnt bad

worthy rose
#

Also hes not really Reapers race

#

Tbh yeah

#

Just thought of him right when someone mentioned live action reaper

wet valve
worthy rose
#

If they live cast Reaper imma yeet myself off a cliff

peak escarp
#

I know, I just wanted to show off her cosplay

wet valve
peak escarp
#

but there are some that could play their characters

worthy rose
#

Tbh the lucio voice actor kind of fits for lucio himself

#

In some way

wet valve
#

yeah him too

#

i guess

worthy rose
#

Not entirely ofc

austere pelican
# peak escarp

yeah unless they start getting marvel like budgets they not going to be doing live action any time soon

worthy rose
#

Wait

#

They better not do it even with good budget lol

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Soldier 76 was gay?

opaque tundra
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Yes

peak escarp
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is

worthy rose
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He looks straight as hell to me lmao

peak escarp
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how does someone "look straight"?

austere pelican
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looks can be decieving

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ikr

worthy rose
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I guess gay people have more make up or something?

peak escarp
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he never talked about women

worthy rose
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No not that

peak escarp
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or hinted at liking women

worthy rose
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Am I gonna get Twitter bashed

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I hope not

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BLUE BIRD OF GOD PLEASE FORGIVE ME

peak escarp
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it's just heteronormative to assume someone is straight until proven otherwise

worthy rose
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Nah were not like those twitter idiots lol

austere pelican
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is it just cuz hes blonde lol

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is being heteronormative a bad thing?

worthy rose
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Ig

peak escarp
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making assumptions is a bad thing

worthy rose
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Anyway uh

austere pelican
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yea

worthy rose
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I just realized that Winston is a gorilla

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Damn

opaque tundra
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Wow

peak escarp
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. . .

austere pelican
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how do i even respond

worthy rose
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Like

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I barely even saw Winston at all

opaque tundra
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Uh so anyway I can't wait to see how chaotic this channel gets once OW2 comes out

austere pelican
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"sry winston i mistaked you for a hippo"

worthy rose
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He’s a literally monke

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Hammond looked like some sort of limited time April fools hero to me at first

austere pelican
worthy rose
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Turns out it was legit

peak escarp
worthy rose
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He wasn’t even released on April fools

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Well we already got some OW2 lore

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GENJI WITH THAT SICK HOODIE

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and rein with his bare face..