lore-discussion

[hasty basalt]

so little chance theres one more hero for OW1

OR...deep theory here......they bring a new hero with OW 2 beta...

[peak escarp]

it makes sense that new heroes would be tested in the OW2 beta

[hasty basalt]

well i expected maybe a beta next month the game with a big MAYBe end of the year but personaly i say OW 2 is 2022

[terse oar]

I think OW2 will release in November, beta at BlizzConline

[proud pike]

i don't think we'll see ow2 in 2021

[peak escarp]

2022 is unlikely imo

[terse oar]

^

[peak escarp]

I can't see why it would take another year

[terse oar]

They know the community is being antsy

[peak escarp]

they're not building the game from scratch

[terse oar]

Only reasoning I can see for it being delayed that much, other than COVID, is that it’s a new engine

But considering how long this has been in production, the engine shouldn’t be a problem

[peak escarp]

it's not a new engine, it's a reworked engine made from the old one

[cosmic crest]

I think it's logical to assume OW 2 won't be in development longer than OW 1 was, since the first game had to be built from the ground up.

[terse oar]

Exactly

[hasty basalt]

guys ow was annoucned 2014 was aimed for end of 2015 for release and came may 2016

and that was without any worldwide pandemic

[terse oar]

But that had to be made completely from scratch

[cosmic crest]

Yeah, OW 2 was announced in 2019 and is expected to come out in 2021

[proud pike]

I think it's the same like with SC2

[hasty basalt]

not here to destroy hopes but i dont see a release this year....they moved so much people in home office had to manage that etc...they are for sure behind schedule in some ways

[cosmic crest]

That's the same amount of time from announce to release as OW 1

[peak escarp]

so if OW2 follows the same pattern, it will be announced in 2019 and released May 2021

[terse oar]

I think November at BlizzCon 2021

[proud pike]

Although its much better to play good game year later, than bad game, but now

[hasty basalt]

there is no blizzcon 2021 announced so far...only blizzconline for february

not sure if they would do 2 big events in one year

[terse oar]

It’s hard to say

[peak escarp]

Blizzconline won't be as big as an in-person Blizzcon

but the bigger question is whether they'll be allowed to have an in-person event in November

Covid in the US is still really bad and it's still uncertain whether they'll get it under control by the end of the year

[terse oar]

Honestly, probably not

[peak escarp]

so even if they wanted to have Blizzcon next November, they probably won't be able to

although with the framework from Blizzconline, they could do another virtual event in November, rather than delaying it until next year and continuing the cycle

[terse oar]

Have they released the schedule for BlizzConline?

Like specific times and showings

[peak escarp]

not yet

[hasty basalt]

not yet

[peak escarp]

probably next week

[terse oar]

It’s crazy to think it’s only in about a month

[arctic loom]

for me dont makes sense be a whole year

without content

a hero or more maps

[peak escarp]

yeah

[arctic loom]

the same events with just new cosmetics

is not new content

to me

[terse oar]

They know we’re being antsy about it, so I don’t think it’ll go into 2022 without a statement

[peak escarp]

so either OW2 comes out this year, or we get new heroes/maps to hold us over until it does come out

tbh I'd be happy with either, because new heroes/maps means new lore

[hasty basalt]

we already had a year with almost no content ^^

[arctic loom]

2020 had the same events but

with new modes

well archives with challenges

[terse oar]

And a bunch of people complained about said year

[arctic loom]

lucio with a new lucio ball map

halloween challengs too and winter a new mode

[opaque tundra]

Honestly, I’m more worried about the new hero looks than release dates and content. I just don’t want any heroes to look like clowns

[terse oar]

I think they’re using that for OW2 missions honestly, gives more replay ability

Also I just realized: interactions are probably going to be updated with OW2

[arctic loom]

im predict the lunar year

going be the same thing

from 2020

jsut only with new cosmetics

[terse oar]

Most likely

[arctic loom]

no new mode

this time

[terse oar]

Most likely

[opaque tundra]

Definitely. The newer heroes barely have any interactions

[arctic loom]

well

[terse oar]

Some interactions are also outdated

[arctic loom]

bap got so many

recently

[terse oar]

Ex: Zen/Sym

[arctic loom]

and heroes still impressed

ana is alive

years later

[terse oar]

That alone got me a little excited lol, new interactions

[peak escarp]

I don't think they'll get rid of "inaccurate" interactions

they're not supposed to be strictly canon anyway

[cosmic crest]

It's confusing though.

And it just seems strange to keep them.

That Sym one is kind of silly anyway.

[terse oar]

I think they will remove them only if they add ones that are updated

[opaque tundra]

Yeah they’re not canon but aren’t they supposed to reflect the characters and their relationships with one another? Imagine hearing an interaction with zen and sym being friendly and then the next match, hear an interaction of sym being sassy

[peak escarp]

we have known that Torbjorn has been looking after Bastion since 2017

but still, he rages at omnics

[cosmic crest]

She snarks about how a machine is lecturing her about order, even though that makes perfect sense. Machines are orderly by design.

[peak escarp]

Reinhardt doesn't know Ana is alive, yet they have interactions talking about it

[arctic loom]

yep

[opaque tundra]

Fair

[gusty sluice]

torbjorn and bastion are in good terms in canon right now, but he still rages against omnics at random times? i think overwatch interactions should be in line with the current events in the lore to be consistent

[peak escarp]

that will be easier to do in OW2 where they'll actually have current events

OW1 wasn't really set at a specific point in the timeline

[terse oar]

That’s what I was saying lol

They’ll finally be updated to current time in OW2

[gusty sluice]

i see. overwatch 2 is basically lore centric at its design which is a good thing.

[arctic loom]

well what im want from the story mode is

use all characters

each hero need at least appear on one mission

[peak escarp]

they won't

not every hero will be in the story missions

[arctic loom]

yeah maybe not

[peak escarp]

the plot is Null Sector and Talon waging war on humanity, and Overwatch trying to stop them

heroes who aren't part of those groups - like Hanzo, Roadhog, Junkrat, Wrecking Ball, Zarya, D.Va and Symmetra - will not be involved

[gusty sluice]

Reaper and Mccree, Ana and Soldier? i guess pretty much

[arctic loom]

i hope efi appear

at least

on cutscene

with orisa

[peak escarp]

Ana, Soldier and Reaper have their own side-plot going on

they probably won't get missions, but they'll get attention in the lore

McCree has his "business"

which we will learn about

[proud pike]

I'm not sure about reaper

Technically we can say that thing about all Talon agents

[arctic loom]

so people still hates omnics

together

with persons?

[limpid agate]

What do you mean by that

[last inlet]

Couples?

[arctic loom]

yes

that couples with human

and omnic

[limpid agate]

Can you rephrase the question

[arctic loom]

if people accept now

omnics living

together

[limpid agate]

Can you rephrase the question in one line.

[last inlet]

He's asking if people still hate human/omnic couples I think

[terse oar]

^^

[limpid agate]

Are they?

[arctic loom]

since mondatta died

he was trying to do it

[limpid agate]

Or are they just asking if people accept Omnics living in human society?

[arctic loom]

yes

that one

[limpid agate]

See

And its complicated

[last inlet]

Well yeah, I guess so

[arctic loom]

since widow killed mondatta

[limpid agate]

Some places accept it, some do not

[arctic loom]

something changed?

or still the same?

[limpid agate]

Mondatta's death didn't change that

It just made it harder to achieve

People in London were already segregated and hostile

His assassination just made it worse

That's the whole plot of the London Calling graphic novels

[peak escarp]

Japan is pretty cool with Omnics

[limpid agate]

Russia will never accept them

[last inlet]

depends on where you go, basically

[peak escarp]

in Numbani, omnics are entirely integrated and equal to humans

in Britain, they're sub-human

[arctic loom]

still zarya dont trust on genji

who is half machine

[last inlet]

They seem to be accepted in Mexico, based off of Soldier's short

wait no

I think I meant the comic where Zarya looks for Sombra

Or the animated Sombra trailer.

[limpid agate]

Also, for about what heroes will be in OW2's story, who won't be, and who I personally speculate will be absent or featured:

Confirmed - Bastion, Brigitte, Doomfist, Echo, Genji, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Orisa, Reinhardt, Sojourn, Torbjorn, Tracer, Winston, Zenyatta

Likely - Baptiste, D.Va, Hanzo, Moira, Reaper, Sombra, Symmetra, Widowmaker

Unlikely - Ana, Ashe, McCree, Pharah^, Roadhog, Sigma, Soldier 76, Hammond, Zarya

Deconfirmed - Junkrat

[arctic loom]

oh yes junkrat dont likes numbani and even dont like omnics

either

but what about roadhog? he just a thief?

[last inlet]

They said Junkrat won't factor in the story?

[limpid agate]

Yes

[arctic loom]

unlikely sigma?

[limpid agate]

Roadhog is Junkrat's bodyguard

[arctic loom]

sigma is from talon

reaper had release sigma

[limpid agate]

Sigma is from Talon. Sigma is not an important member.

[arctic loom]

from that prison

[untold schooner]

is omnic a race?

[proud pike]

actually nope, but technically - yes

Like, they are robots

And I dont think that robot, even with AI can be called a ''race''

Although, it all depends on opinions.

[gusty sluice]

in our real life definitions they are classified as robots

[dense cave]

okay you know what that is actually pretty interesting
I guess compared to humans they might even be classified as a different species even
but that makes me wonder, are different models of omnics classified as different races? or some equivalent to that? like is bastion technically a different race compared to Orisa? I wonder how that works

[peak escarp]

probably not

we haven't seen any discrimination between different models of omnics, or even any evidence that they acknowledge their models

[dense cave]

true

[swift mason]

Although, we see that null sector: a different model of omnics, don’t care if they shoot at another omnic (the one with the French cop in zero hour)

Clearly some omnics are against others

But it’s complicated

[peak escarp]

yeah but that's not because of their model

it's because of their affiliation

omnics who side with humans are their enemies

[limpid agate]

@peak escarp iirc, in the Orisa novel, there were some omnics that were not as open to the OR15s or Orisa

If I am not mistaken, I would consider that descrimination

[dense cave]

wow didnt actually know that

[hasty basalt]

well so far i remember its widely different where you are...in africa alias numbani etc omnics are relatively accepted and having own rights (?) while in london after the riots of null sector everything went south for the omnics again...

its kinda the plot like Detroit Become human but different...in OW the Omnics are the first who tend to be aggressive against humans....

i would really love the reason why they decided to attack humanity.....is it like skynet doing the math and finding out humans are a thread to any evolution by machines etc?

[pliant sparrow]

Something something omniums

[coarse summit]

lol

[peak escarp]

it's a mystery even in-universe

the omniums were shut down and Omnica Corporation was charged with fraud and corruption . . . then one day the omniums woke back up (seemingly on their own) and started pumping out omnics that attacked people

[hasty basalt]

maybe someone was toxic and pushed the button who knows..thats something we probably never find out

[valid terrace]

That's my theory actually

[lyric sluice]

i just noticed when you pick sombra sometimes the screen she looks at all white you can sometimes see whats she looking at and its lucios frog symbol

....

science

[wheat orbit]

I'll look at it. Thanks.

[bright birch]

Can someone tell me all the members of I think they're called the Serpents

[proud pike]

Serpent?

[cerulean ice]

theres no such thing

[valid terrace]

Shimada?

[bright birch]

Reaper is the head of it

I forgot what it's called

[worthy rose]

Talon

And Doomfist is its head not Reaper

[bright birch]

Woops

I'm bad at remembering things

[worthy rose]

Ok I have a question

Torb is a small man

But brig

Is so tall

What happened

[bright birch]

Genetics

[peak escarp]

people with dwarfism can have normal sized children

[worthy rose]

Oh word?

[peak escarp]

both parents have dwarfism, 3 children born normal

[worthy rose]

Oh cool

Didn’t know that

For the longest I thought there was some cheating

[peak escarp]

in that image, the man on the left (in the jean jacket) and the man wearing all black are twins

so if Torb has dwarfism it's not guaranteed to pass on to his children

people usually have more of a problem with Brig's hair colour than with her height

but that's easily explained too

[pliant sparrow]

Basically

Genetics is really really wacky

[hasty basalt]

people really questioning genetics and its outcome in a game....what a time to live in

peter dinklage has a daughter which is 6 or something and alreayd mostly bigger as him so...yes theres nothing strange on that

[cosmic crest]

Discussing details is kind of the entire point of the channel.

[wide berry]

ㆍ

[hasty basalt]

not talking about here but that people coming up with something like that xD

i mean good people are deep into the games lore

[peak escarp]

most people here are deep into the game's lore

[peak escarp]

https://twitter.com/AndreaToyias/status/1350874938475831296?s=19

Andrea Toyias (@AndreaToyias)

Hey all you amazing Overwatch players....question: if you could ask any OW actor/character anything...what would it be? Lemme hear what you got! Sending tons of love. xx

Twitter · Jan 17, 2021, 6:37 PM

Overwatch's voice director is gathering questions for the VAs, probably for a Blizzcon panel

[covert echo]

Is Mcree's deadeye something to do with his cybernetics, or is the ability interface just an interpretation of his skills?

[cosmic crest]

It's just him aiming really well.

He doesn't even shoot with his cybernetic arm.

[peak escarp]

yeah

you can see a more realistic depiction of it in Reunion when he faces off against the Deadlock gang

[covert echo]

ah, I was wondering.

[stiff pagoda]

I have a question about Genji and Hanzo's lore:

Did Hanzo cut up Genji with a sword or shoot him with a bow?

(before Genji joined Overwatch)

[terse oar]

Hanzo “murdered” Genji with a sword

[stiff pagoda]

ok

[terse oar]

He felt guilty about it and decided to never use a sword again, leading to the bow

[stiff pagoda]

oh

Do any of you know how Genji's father died?

Or is he still alive?

[opaque tundra]

Sojiro is dead dead

[terse oar]

We don’t know concretely how, but he was assassinated I think

[stiff pagoda]

Wait is his name Sojiro?

[terse oar]

Yes

He’s also the one narrating the “Dragons” cinematic short

[stiff pagoda]

oh

cool

[terse oar]

I think

[stiff pagoda]

If he was narrating "Dragons" then why did he protect Genji if he knew Genji would be good while the Shimada clan is evil?

[terse oar]

?

[stiff pagoda]

Lets say Sojiro knew about the future of Genji and Hanzo...

why was he protecting Genji?

He was/is evil

[terse oar]

Genji’s not evil

[stiff pagoda]

i know

but Sojiro is evil(?)

[terse oar]

Sojiro was narrating the story of the two dragons

[stiff pagoda]

Yea

[terse oar]

I’m confused what you’re asking

[stiff pagoda]

Its hard to explain so I'll try to figure it out by myself

thanks anyways

also

Do any of you know if Overwatch 2 came out

I thought is was supposed to come out last year

[terse oar]

We have no release date, but it’s probably coming out this year

We’re getting more news next month with BlizzConline (Feb 19)

[sick siren]

I have a question y'all

If Moira ever did have children - would her children be born with powers too?

Because of her genetic experimentations?

[limpid agate]

Possibly. Possibly not. If they do inherit it, they might not even survive childbirth.

[sick siren]

Because Moira, as thorough as an experimenter as she is, surely would think to experiment on embryos?

She has 0 ethics so I can't imagine that being a problem for her.

[unreal tartan]

@stiff pagoda Hanzo and Genji’s fight takes place after Sojiro’s death. The narration he does is most likely Hanzo and Genji remembering being told that story by their father as a kid.

[slow tartan]

I doubt Moira of all people would have kids, she'd probably just make clones or something like that

Or just adopt someone and modify them

Or just not bother since she's Moira and does she really have time for things other than science and not playing the objective

[bright birch]

Blizzard made a short film once right? And some other cinematics, where can I watch all of those

[terse oar]

They’re just on the YouTube channel

[bright birch]

Okee!

[opaque tundra]

Most links to lore stuff is in pinned messages

[terse oar]

Just look up “Overwatch cinematics” and it’ll pop up

[terse oar]

Idk the command lol

!!loreguide

[twilit nacelle]

This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

[terse oar]

Nope

[bright birch]

I'll look into that tonight

[valid terrace]

!!loreshorts

[twilit nacelle]

Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
The Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
Zero Hour: https://bit.ly/2JGfNBP

Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE
Echo: https://bit.ly/2IYIwRq

Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2EI9RCZ
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2VOkcXh

[valid terrace]

These are the cinematics for your viewing pleasure

Shorts are on top

[terse oar]

I need to make a command list ._.

[proud pike]

A command to find the command list

!!help or something like that

[limpid agate]

The command is

!!lorelist

[twilit nacelle]

loreComics -> List of comics
LondonCalling -> List of Tracer - London Calling issues
loreShorts -> List of shorts
loreTweets -> List of lore related Twitter teasers
loreText -> List of lore text articles
loreHeroes [heroName] -> List of hero bios [Or a specific hero bio]
loreWiki [pageName] -> Link to Overwatch Wiki [or a specific page]
loreOnly [userName] -> A warning so you don't NEED to ping staff

[steady gazelle]

Oh god. I'm watching the uhh museum one, the trailer? And I just. These NERDS. Winston is literally getting shot at, and he still asks "enjoying the exhibit?" And Tracer is just giggling the whole time she's annoying Widowmaker. Absolute nerds. I love them.

More seriously, though, I know Zenyatta and Mondatta have the same surname, Tekhartha. Are they related, or is that just because they were both Shambali monks?

[peak escarp]

it's not a surname

it's a title

[steady gazelle]

Not surname, no. I used the wrong word.

Yes that one

[peak escarp]

they're both high ranking members of the Shambali

Zenyatta calls Mondatta "brother" in the monastic sense, not because they're actually family

[steady gazelle]

Okay. Shambali, then. Ty

[frozen path]

How mercy’s height will be without high heels? (Idk if it’s lore)

[worthy rose]

wouldn’t really count that as lore

but mercy is 5’7

and the average stilleto heel is

1 inch - 10 inches

i’m assuming hers are 3 inches

so do the math

[regal wadi]

hey all!
I think we where wrong about "Dorado" being inspired by Manarola.
I'm doing a series of posts talkinga bout flora/fauna/culture about all maps in overwatch..
And therewas something bothering me a lot about this "dorado/Manarola" thing.

And then I found about Guanajuato

and it's almost the perfect fit

there are even some places that are pretty close to overwatch game

[rain star]

does anyone know why sometimes when a character respawns they make a reference to their lore that makes no sense. i.e "hope i didnt naff things up down here!"-tracer

[cerulean ice]

its just a small reference to her comic, whats the deal with it?

its nothing special

[rain star]

ik its a small reference, but there is literally no reason for her to be referencing her comic in say, hanamura. it just doesnt belong

also, why is moira like 6ft tall without the hunch?

[cerulean ice]

so?

[cerulean ice]

why curious?

shes just tall

[cosmic crest]

Believe it or not, tall women exist.

[rain star]

they do, in fact exist, and i support it, but shes definitly an outlier and i wonder if she did some basic tests on herself to end up that way

[cosmic crest]

No...

That's silly.

Tall women aren't that rare.

[terse oar]

She’s just tall, nothing to it

[cerulean ice]

she could have, considering her profession but who knows

[fringe hazel]

So do to Winston and hammond's genetic mutations

Is it possible that they're related?

Since if I'm not mistaken they implanted the same genetic mutation

[peak escarp]

similar mutations, yes

but that wouldn't make them genetically related

one is a Gorilla gorilla and one is a Mesocricetus auratus

[arctic loom]

more i be afraid about it

[terse oar]

There will at least be a beta this year, most likely next month, so I wouldn’t worry about it

[peak escarp]

we don't have any conclusive proof that it is delayed until 2022

youtubers are just scaremongering for clicks

[terse oar]

Tbf to them, they have to make content on OW somehow

[peak escarp]

they should try learning the lore

[terse oar]

Touché

[thin roost]

@rain star @cerulean ice irish people r small tho

[peak escarp]

The average Irish person is 172.02cm (5 feet 7.72 inches) tall. The average Irishman is 178.92cm (5 feet 10.44 inches) tall. The average Irishwoman is 165.11cm (5 feet 5 inches) tall.

I wouldn't call that short

Moira is above average, but there's always people above and below average

[rain echo]

woah

[pliant sparrow]

Hey we ain't that small

U seen our rugby team

[cerulean ice]

lmao

[proud pike]

[rain star]

hey i didnt intend this.

i was just pointing out... nvm ima offend someone

[broken latch]

do it

[rain star]

moira is like 6,5, is she just big or like did she modify her genes?

[terse oar]

She’s just tall

[broken latch]

hmmmm

modify prob

[rain star]

well never know. it might be better nutrition because its the 2070s, like how in the 1800s 6ft was rlly tall for a man

[opaque tundra]

Why is it so unbelievable that Moira is tall

[rain star]

ree im not a regular but can somebody do !!shitposting for this guy?

[terse oar]

He’s already muted, no point

[iron plume]

I've got a better solution

good

[rain star]

oh

[slow tartan]

I think Moira is just tall

Pretty much everyone in the game looks like they're straight out of a comic book I think it's safe to say she's just tall

[peak escarp]

they all have heroic proportions

[slow tartan]

Also she may look taller because she stands more upright than some others

That may have a slight effect on it

[peak escarp]

Junkrat is also super tall but you can't tell because he hunches over

[rain star]

aight

[rain star]

she has a hunch, actually

[rain star]

torbjorn.exe

[peak escarp]

he's still exaggerated

and extremely muscular

[rain star]

fact

ok well i feel like a shitpost so moving on

[slow tartan]

I wonder how international relations changed following the omnic crisis

Like wouldn't some countries still have some beef?

Or did they get all that stuff sorted out by 2070

[peak escarp]

there's probably still international conflict

people will always hate each other

[slow tartan]

Fair enough

I guess they just don't bring it up due to potential controversy

[peak escarp]

yeah

it's easier to just show the conflict with a fictional group like the omnics

[slow tartan]

Just imagine an overwatch comic with Kashmir even mentioned

Actually wait that makes me wonder, how does the ingame map portray those disputed boundaries?

[peak escarp]

we haven't been shown a world map with the political boundaries

[worthy rose]

Wait was genji trained in Kanazaka or just hanzo because zenyatta sent genji to train but i can’t remember where

[peak escarp]

so I would guess they'll just avoid mentioning it

[peak escarp]

Genji was trained in Nepal

both Genji and Hanzo were trained by Asa Yamagami in their youth in Hanamura

[worthy rose]

Oh yeah because kanazaka was right next to hanamura

Yeah I remember that

Oh k that makes more sense

Thanks

[slow tartan]

So some of the skins seem to represent canon things, right?

[terse oar]

Yes, only certain ones though

[slow tartan]

Commando 76 is S76's military service, that kinda stuff

[terse oar]

Yes

[slow tartan]

Alright, just double checking

If it doesn't have an info thing is it safe to assume it doesn't really mean much?

[terse oar]

Most cases, I think it’s safe to say yes

[peak escarp]

some that do have descriptions aren't canon though

[wispy basalt]

Whats Talon

[rain star]

talon is basiaccly bad guys. thats how their portrayed anyway

i suggest you read the comics

[terse oar]

Talon are the main antagonists, although the OW2 campaign will focus on Null Sector

Heroes in Talon include Reaper, Widowmaker, Sombra, Doomfist, Moira, and Sigma

[wispy basalt]

Why are people under talon called heroes

in game

[rain star]

would you count bap as a talon hero? i know he has left them, but he hasnt seemed to affiliate himself with anything else

*he knows mercy tho

[rain star]

heroes are just playable charachters.

[wispy basalt]

ok

[terse oar]

"Heroes" sounds cooler than just "Characters"

[terse oar]

He left on his own accord and doesn't approve of them anymore, so I'd say no

[rain star]

ah. i want bap to affiliate himself, the closest thing rn is the "knows mercy gang"

[terse oar]

He's an outcast rn, but he'll probably join Neo-OW

[rain star]

i hope

[worthy rose]

is genji x mercy canon

[cosmic crest]

It's not officially cannon. But it's unofficially officially cannon.

They have given us numerous hints that the two have been or are currently romantically involved.

[night dune]

Didn't they have a voice line between them?

For chocolates

[cosmic crest]

Yes

[peak escarp]

they've had a lot of interactions

if there is any relationship between heroes, it's that one

[charred jewel]

Mei and Moira 🥴

[worthy rose]

no.

[mystic salmon]

One of the Hanzo sprays is a girl of some kind.

Do you think he has an ex girlfriend?

[terse oar]

The one for the Kanezaka challenge?

[mystic salmon]

yeah

[terse oar]

That’s a model on the map for a store

[mystic salmon]

Oh

My question still stands. Do you think he has an ex girlfriend(s)? Genji was supposedly the playboy of the two according to lore but I can see hanzo having a few hook ups to. He's just as handsome as his brother after all.

No doubt with how famous their family title was many girls and probably a few dudes trying to gold dig.

[terse oar]

I feel like he’d be to busy

[cosmic crest]

The sprays from the challenge are for all heroes.

Even the one of Hanzo.

As for Tato (the girl on the poster and the spray) I think she is very cute, but she is almost certainly of no significance.

[peak escarp]

I think it's possible Hanzo has had love interests, but unlikely that they'll ever be mentioned

[limpid agate]

That goes for most heroes

[edgy rock]

Honestly yea i agree on that

Both of them seem like busy people

[hasty basalt]

good and bad is always a point of view.....in real as in games....yes talons methods are.....rough nicely said but i wouldnt say they see themselves as bad...they want humanity to evolve and causing wars is the fastest way to evolve humanity and tech....theres a sad truth in that look at medicine making big jumps after WW1 and 2...

[iron plume]

It's questionable that that's the truth in the first place, but that aside

Even if you take it as fact that WWII caused a jump in technology and "development" that humanity wouldn't have otherwise
It doesn't make people who started it not the bad guys

[hasty basalt]

thats not my point?

the point is technology and sciene has a big high in wars and conflicts because people need to adapt and overcome stuff...

and every bad person doesnt sees himself as bad

no warlord you ask will say "sure im absolute evil"

thats what im saying

[iron plume]

They won't admit to it
But it's not "always a point of view"

The fact that they don't see it as evil doesn't mean it's not

[hasty basalt]

ok tell me when you find a person whos seen bad by others calling himself that

in the end i just say good and bad is not as easy people make it sometimes

[iron plume]

Have you... actually read what I wrote? I’m not saying they consider themselves bad

But in case of Talon it’s not a complicated question

[celest zinc]

why👏does👏Hanzo👏still👏hold👏his👏scatter👏arrow👏

[peak escarp]

because he still has it

just not in the game

[celest zinc]

Oh-

[worthy rose]

is winston genetically modified?

also does winston actually grow genetically modified banana's?

is Tracer gay?

is hanzo stupid?

[limpid agate]

Yes
No
Yes
That is a stupid question

Why would Hanzo be stupid

[finite urchin]

In-game, yes. Lore-wise, no.

[worthy rose]

can i not ask about communism

[cosmic crest]

Why would you want to ask about that?

[keen folio]

i think hanzo's iq is lower than average

[cosmic crest]

How is it relevant?

[worthy rose]

i wanted to know if zarya was communism

for lore

[cosmic crest]

She is not.

[worthy rose]

good to know

so anyways im grounded cya

[untold schooner]

cya

[limpid agate]

@keen folio Based on what

[peak escarp]

why?

[calm bloom]

I would say his IQ is at least average because he has the voiceline "Simple geometry"

[keen folio]

thats the thing

he only knows simple geometry

he has no feats demonstrating knowledge of complex geometry

[peak escarp]

do any of the heroes?

[keen folio]

winston is a scientist

[calm bloom]

Oh thats true

[peak escarp]

so everyone who isn't a scientist is an idiot?

[calm bloom]

what about scatter arrow?

[peak escarp]

Hanzo likely has average intelligence

[keen folio]

mercy says she doesnt understand how zens healing works

implying she understands how her OWN healing works

which must take quite the iq

[calm bloom]

She has a doctorate

a PHD

she is actually one of the smartest heroes

[keen folio]

zens also smart because in his reply he implies he understands his own healing methods

[calm bloom]

Wouldnt necessarily mean smart

[keen folio]

torb is an engineer which is super difficult

[calm bloom]

Just spiritually intelligent

[limpid agate]

You still didn't answer the first question

[calm bloom]

Zen's healing is spiritual

[keen folio]

i assumed it was a high tech gadget

[limpid agate]

Unless your meme is your response

[keen folio]

cuz there's no magic in overwatch im assuming

[calm bloom]

He heals people through the Iris

[limpid agate]

There is no magic in Overwatch

[terse oar]

Zenyatta’s healing isn’t canon

[keen folio]

it's supposed to all be based in futuristic science

[peak escarp]

he heals with "omnic energy" and psychological therapy

[keen folio]

no feats

[limpid agate]

@terse oar Zenyatta is capable of some form of healing. We do not know what it is.

@keen folio That's not sufficient reasoning to say someone has "below average IQ"

[terse oar]

I meant Harmony Orb

I probably should’ve been specific

[calm bloom]

considering his ultimate is Transcendence i'd say most of his abilities are spiritually influenced

[keen folio]

the rest is just a hunch 🤷‍♂️

[limpid agate]

Don't answer someone's question based on a hunch.

There is nothing to suggest he has below average iq

[calm bloom]

wouldnt scatter arrow count as more advanced geometry?

[keen folio]

he says its simple

[calm bloom]

oh steven you didnt play when scatter arrow existed

[keen folio]

i did

[peak escarp]

people tend to call things simple if they understand it

[keen folio]

i started s4

[calm bloom]

wait true

[peak escarp]

so it could be advanced geometry that Hanzo finds simple

[calm bloom]

in saying "simple geometry" in that tone it kinda implies it's "simple to him"

omg

[keen folio]

actually yeah the tone does have a lilt of derision in it

[calm bloom]

like he kinda scoffs when he says it

[keen folio]

so it might be a relative thing rather than an absolute categorization

[calm bloom]

👍

[keen folio]

ok hanzo must be relatively good at geometry.

[dusty sentinel]

what if the hanzo has bad aim

[peak escarp]

you should approach this from the other angle

[calm bloom]

nice pun

[peak escarp]

there's nothing that indicates he's an idiot

[calm bloom]

[peak escarp]

unlike Junkrat, who is constantly idiotic

[keen folio]

junkrat made his own grenade launcher did he not?

[terse oar]

But at the same time, he made his own grenade launcher

[calm bloom]

you can make any character idiotic if you play them badly ingame

[keen folio]

and knows how to evade australian and international cops

could YOU figure out how to make a grenade launcher? i doubt it

[peak escarp]

Junkrat fills the trope known as the "idiot savant"

[calm bloom]

factual

[keen folio]

i think he just has a quirky sense of humor

[calm bloom]

a dumbass who knows how to do really complicated things

[peak escarp]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdiotSavant

[keen folio]

he could probably fit in society if he wanted to

but doesnt find it fun

lore wise id say the hero with the smoothest brain is ashe

she gets regularly outsmarted by mccree so

but they're all pretty smart in general

[limpid agate]

There is nothing to suggest Ashe has a "smooth brain"

Can you please not speak in memes

[calm bloom]

ashe does seem kinda simple imo

maybe it's just the accent

wait when does she get outsmarted by mccree

[limpid agate]

Yeah, that's not an appropriate comment to be making

[iron plume]

You could argue Reunion was him outsmarting her with tactics as much as superior aim/whatever

but mccree is pretty damn good at this whole fighting thing

[hexed crypt]

He IS a gunslinger after all

[peak escarp]

plenty of intelligent people speak with southern accents

[iron plume]

You don’t build and then rebuild a large crime empire if you’re an idiot

[calm bloom]

i have a southern accent and i am far from intelligent

no not her accent

more like the words she uses

her vocabulary is simple

[peak escarp]

it doesn't seem simple to me

it seems average

[iron plume]

Everyone’s vocabulary is relatively simple in-game

unless it’s a line deliberately made to show off a hero’s science knowledge

because it’s a snippy bark in game that you’re not supposed to think for long about

[peak escarp]

why the obsession with the heroes' intelligence? like strength, it's impossible to judge without empirical testing

[iron plume]

and it’s also much more multifaceted unlike strength

[calm bloom]

doomfist is ripped but i think winston beats him

just because hes a gorilla

[limpid agate]

The reason why "Winston beats him"

Is because Winston did beat him

In Singapore 6 years ago, Winston defeated Doomfist in a fist fight

[calm bloom]

thats crazy

i didnt know that

thanks jewvia

[cosmic crest]

Neither

He's a gorilla that's been genetically modified.

[arctic loom]

hammond still are winston friend?

well they still separated

didnt meet officialy again

after left the moon

[limpid agate]

They were friends on the moon

If they were to meet on Earth, they would be friends too

[terse oar]

Which trailer?

[peak escarp]

you can post a link to the picture

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose Upload the picture to imgur

Then post a link

Or use a timestamp

[minor onyx]

Were they though? To my knowledge all we ever saw was hammond hooking his escape pod to Winston's.

[terse oar]

In the developer update for Hammond, Kaplan said they were friends

[arctic loom]

they might meet again on earth

no one knows where hammond is now

since he left junkertown

[terse oar]

If they’re trying to focus on inclusion for the OW2 campaign, that definitely will happen

[minor onyx]

Oh, alright. Thanks for informing me!

[calm bloom]

ashe wears a lot of eyeliner for a country girl

[peak escarp]

she's a rich country girl

[desert yarrow]

ashe is very pretty

[arctic loom]

ashe have a love interest for mccree or she just really hates him

?

[desert yarrow]

probs hates him

[peak escarp]

it's complicated

she seems to like him (despite what she says), but Ashe isn't his type

[worn island]

well then what is his type

blue/white shapeshifting robots?

[peak escarp]

maybe

it's not really important though

[proud pike]

[calm bloom]

debateable

[peak escarp]

why would McCree's type be important?

this isn't a dating sim

[proud pike]

He just was a Liao's friend

[calm bloom]

maybe it should be

[peak escarp]

no

[proud pike]

and some kind of ''guard'' of echo project

[proud pike]

so... bruh, he's not echo lover, or what u said?

[worn island]

Idk man, he said "welcome back, partner" when he resurrected her or whatever it was that he did

[peak escarp]

because he had worked with her before

After thousands of hours in the scientist’s presence, much of Liao’s behaviors (including her speech), were adopted by the Echo robot. This secret that was known by very few, including Blackwatch agent Jesse McCree, who had, at times, been assigned to guard the scientist.

[worn island]

Yeah, I know that, but it's still possible I reckon

[proud pike]

[peak escarp]

it's possible

[worn island]

you are right tho, not very relevant

[peak escarp]

but it's irrelevant

[worn island]

aha

[ripe garnet]

Can anyone explain to me what the lore is behind why widowmaker is so dam THICC

[worthy rose]

I mean she is a ballerina so she has to stay fit

[fervent talon]

needed to sell copies

[worthy rose]

Highly doubt they would buy a game just because they a find a character attractive

[mystic salmon]

Echo/mccree is a fun rare pair to think of ideas for.

Sorry, I forgot this box didn't allow fanon fanfic stuff.

[proud pike]

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I like McCree as a lone character. It's just his style.

It's like "I work alone" or something like that.

It just suits him to be in his current position.

But as I said before, this is just a guess

[swift mason]

Well at least we will get to know more about him and Ashe in the new novel coming out later this year

[proud pike]

btw, about McCree, is he had good relationship with Bob?

As I recall, he even called him "buddy"

[cerulean ice]

i think chu confirmed theyre on good terms

idk what it exactly said

[proud pike]

And it didn't sound like sarcasm.

aha

Thanks

[cerulean ice]

eh?

[proud pike]

?

I mean, when he said "buddy" or smth like that

[cerulean ice]

nvm

[proud pike]

[proud pike]

Maybe a bit bad question, but as I understand it LC#5 will be released on Blizzconline?

Or before BCO?

[swift mason]

It would probably be before

Maybe a few days before, in the same week

[hasty basalt]

well very professional ballerinas have a very special body form if i can call it that way....widow is a bit over the top bootywise but a bit less would be accurate...and of course based on your own genom you can totaly have a very thicc butt as a ballerina....i wouldnt say widow was a sellpoint design...its quite accurate

[timid eagle]

My guess is Bob and McCree are on good terms, but the same can't be said with Ashe and McCree. If she had her way, she'd have McCree's head stuffed & mounted on a wall.

[proud pike]

Well... But He didn't do it.

Although he was able to

[timid eagle]

Ouch!

[proud pike]

I think she's just pretending to be mad at him. I don't think she really wants to kill him.

It is possible to maim, but not to kill.

Just, neh

[timid eagle]

Hmmm, I don't know. She really wanted to kill him, but it's not like he's easy to track down.

Their meeting/reunion was more of a coincidence in that animated short, if anything.

[proud pike]

I won't say - McCree knew about this train and knew about the gang's plans.

He was informed by past allies

He needed to awaken the echo.

[timid eagle]

Yes, but she wasn't expecting McCree and his homeless cowboy butt to show up.

[proud pike]

She - no

McCree - yes

[timid eagle]

In either case, the game has hammered the point that Ashe really doesn't like McCree after ditching the gang and joining Overwatch.

And that will continue to be the case with OW2.

[proud pike]

Well, I don't think she's very angry anymore. It's more of a simulation of anger.

Like....

I dont know

How to explain it

[timid eagle]

** Ashe:** "Brave of you to show your face around here, Jesse."
** McCree: **"Well, I know how much you missed me. Still have a picture of me at the hide-out, I hear."
Ashe: ** (irritated) "On the dartboard."
** McCree: "Bet you look at it every day. Flattering, really."

There's also the fact that McCree stated Ashe isn't his type.

[proud pike]

yes

I'm not talking about a love relationship, no. I mean, she's not really mad at him.

if she was really angry, she would have shot him right away.

[timid eagle]

They are both walking caricatures of 1970's Western Cinema. In a world where where one of the main characters is a hyper-intelligent gorilla, born and raised on the moon.

Realism doesn't really apply here.

[proud pike]

Of crs

We have Robo-monk, mutant gorilla/hamster from moon, hard light, biotic healing, lost in time pilot

and so on and so on

[timid eagle]

And a woman-out-of-time climatologist who's the sweetest cinnamon roll.

[proud pike]

Still, if she really wanted to kill him , she would have killed him long ago.

[timid eagle]

McCree's lucky then, that her men are incompetent to a 'T'.

[proud pike]

huh?

I dont understand

[timid eagle]

Remember the whole shootout, where most of her men couldn't hit the broadside of a barn or couldn't land a shot on McCree, due to one mishap after the next?

[proud pike]

Well... This is stm. Just add epicness, no more.

stm - shot to miss

Sometimes you have to sacrifice realism for coolness - otherwise it would be very boring

For example Genji's katana

[hasty basalt]

she likes him but doesnt want to admit/show it.....for someone that really hates a person shes to soft in arguments with him...dont know why people always go the way she is really hating him shes obviously not.

same as everbody thinks widow has no feelings but you have certain gerard voicelines who show otherwise

[proud pike]

He pulls it out from behind his back. However, this is not possible. But it looks cool.

[timid eagle]

I'll be generous enough and say their dynamic is compared to ex-lovers sniping/throwing shade at each other.

[proud pike]

Also her "Reflections"

[hasty basalt]

yeah its that kind of i like you but i pretend i dont relation

[proud pike]

She came to her husband's grave.

[hasty basalt]

yep

[proud pike]

With a flower(!)

Although she "has no feelings"

[unreal tartan]

Her conditioning appears to be wearing off

[hasty basalt]

wonder what talon would do finding out her brainwash is broken to a small degree

thats makes widow a very interesting character....she could be go in a war within herself some day....

[proud pike]

Reyes in Reflections looks the same way

Like

He's sorry for what he did.

A bit

A really bit

But still

[hasty basalt]

looked for me like he watched some fam members or something

[proud pike]

Even Michael said it wasn't a random family he was following.

[timid eagle]

I do like that Sombra and Baptiste have a fun dynamic. It's neat she genuinely warns Baptiste about his former "friend" being very sore after their last encounter.

[proud pike]

Well, he and Sombra are friends.

But yeah

I like it too

[timid eagle]

It's a good switch up, as almost EVERYONE hates her.

So it's cool she checks up on her old friend to see what he's been up to.

And you know.

[proud pike]

I also liked how he asked her about her Translocation

xD

A bit funny thing

Wait...

McCree is Sombra's friend too?

Or nope?

Cause in reflections they're sitting in the same bar

[timid eagle]

Eh, it's more of a coincidence.

[proud pike]

Maybe yes, maybe no

[timid eagle]

Also, something tells me Mauga is going to be less friendly with Baptiste.

[proud pike]

yes

Sombra warned Baptiste, no?

[timid eagle]

She did, and she sounded pretty terrified of the fact.

And this is Sombra.

The fact she is scared of a mountain of a sociopath like Mauga is telling.

[proud pike]

Yes, her voice definitely sounded without her eternal " irony"

She really worried

[timid eagle]

And Baptiste won't be able to talk him down like in the past.

inB4 someone creates a morbid rendition of "You're Welcome!" as Mauga guns down anything that breathes

[proud pike]

I don't think Mauga will start shooting or threatening Baptiste unless he's brainwashed.

Most likely, he just won't want to talk to him if he meets him

[timid eagle]

No, but Mauga won't be on friendly terms with him.

"Hey, Baptiste. Remember the time you tried to blow me up and left me to drown? Good times..."

[proud pike]

Wait, where did that phrase come from?

[cerulean ice]

its an example

[timid eagle]

I made it up on the spot, making a reference to their faithful encounter towards the end of "What We Left Behind."

[proud pike]

aha

okay

[timid eagle]

Yeah, when Mauga becomes a playable character, there will be interactions with him and Baptiste.

Most of them probably dropping the jolly, "big dumb brute" facade.

And him being pretty sore his now ex-friend tried to kill him.

[proud pike]

tru

i hope that we'll see

a little offtop but then again, the Widow's internal conflict would be quite interesting

I don't think it will get implemented, and Reflections just showed it to emphasize the"magic of Christmas"

But I still think it would be interesting, although not very necessary.

[cerulean ice]

seeing that page, widow isnt completely brainwashed

poor girl

[proud pike]

yea

Although as I said - it could have been done just to show this festive atmosphere

Who knows.... who knows....

[cerulean ice]

im pretty sure they wouldnt do that

a few voicelines suggests about this too

actually probably just 2

or 1

[proud pike]

yeah, ur right

[hasty basalt]

2 i thnk

one is "aaah gerard..."

the other one is ana mocking her about luring gerard to like her and shes very pissed answering " you dont know a thing about gerard " or something

the second one clearly shows bit more that shes still able to feel..because shes very angry in this situation

[worthy rose]

Is mercy from Heaven or Valhalla? (dont warn me for shitposting)

[iron plume]

Neither

[worthy rose]

?

then where is she from

[iron plume]

Switzerland

[worthy rose]

what the fu-

[clear totem]

lol

that's both

[cosmic crest]

Are you under the assumption she is a literal angel?

Because she isn't.

[clear totem]

pretty damn close tho

[peak escarp]

angels aren't real

[clear totem]

w h a t

[hasty basalt]

[peak escarp]

Angela Ziegler is a normal human - and not immortal either, like some people believe

[terse oar]

Nor can she canonically resurrect the dead

[peak escarp]

nor is she secretly evil

[worthy rose]

Why would anyone believe she's secretly evil?

so mercy isn't an angel??

wtf overwatch wiki

you lied AGAIN

[iron plume]

neither of the two overwatch wikis say she's an angel

[terse oar]

Because they see the Devil skins and don’t do research

[worthy rose]

well then maybe i can't read

Just because of a skin?lol

[peak escarp]

this has been a rumor since beta, because "she's too good"

[worthy rose]

probably because i can't read

[iron plume]

because they don't actually read anything about her, think that she's the standard "goody two shoes" and make up something "more interesting"

[peak escarp]

also they think she created Reaper, which is stupid

[worthy rose]

this is party magicians natural habitat

Its even worse than thinking Reaper is a double agent

[peak escarp]

she already has a nuanced character without having to be "secretly" anything

[terse oar]

People don’t read

[iron plume]

you don't even have to read shit

just listen to her voicelines

she's jaded as fuck

but they don't care about her actual character

[cosmic crest]

The idea of aseemingly caring character like Mercy secretly being sadistic isn't a bad one. However, Mercy is already a developed character and doesn't need a contrived reason to be made interesting.

[terse oar]

Side note: it really annoys me when people say “Sigma’s mentally ill”

[worthy rose]

He is insane though

[cosmic crest]

I mean... he is though.

I think saying he is "insane" or "crazy" is more inaccurate.

[worthy rose]

But they are kinda the same thing

[cosmic crest]

Mentally ill isn't a very strong term.

[cosmic crest]

No they are not.

Having depression or anxiety can be considered being mentally ill.

Like I said, not a strong term.

[iron plume]

I wouldn't say Sigma is mentally ill

[cosmic crest]

Sigma might not be crazy, but he is highly eccentric, is often distracted and has auditory hallucinations.

He doesn't seem well to me.

[iron plume]

well obviously not well

[winged dragon]

isn't sigma... insane?

[iron plume]

But mental illness is like
a different category from literally having your head messed up by a black hole

[peak escarp]

it's closer to brain damage than mental illness

[cosmic crest]

Okay, I'm not a psychologist so I don't know what the exact right term is. But it's clear he is not in a normal state of mind.

[fair jolt]

well hes aware of what he is doing so i think he's just a psycho

like he may have a little bit of brain damage

but i tihnk he's just crazy

[peak escarp]

he's coherent most of the time

he just hears/hallucinates music

[fair jolt]

oh

ok

[worthy rose]

is zarya russian

where does zarya get her bubble shield

is orisa a robot or a person in a robot?

does tracer sleep with a chrono-accelerator on all day?

[iron plume]

yes

[iron plume]

it’s tech from a Russian company

[iron plume]

robot

[iron plume]

no, she doesn’t have to wear it as long as she’s near it, she has a set-up in her home to hang it. we see it in Reflections

[worthy rose]

is echo from McCree

did McCree lose his limbs in a fight

in Zenyatta floating robot jesus, (did he replace the guy who got shot by widowmaker)

Where does Zenyatta get his powers

How does Mercy heal

Is bastion ok?

Does bastion have ptsd

Is widowmaker part spider?

where does she get her headgear?

am i asking too many questions?

[pliant sparrow]

No, we don't know, no, he doesn't have 'powers' but he does have a form of healing, she uses biotics afaik, probably not, no, from talon

[worthy rose]

ok

does tracer date zarya?

does winston love tracer?

is zarya's weapon powerful? and does it vomit out light?

if mercy isnt an angel how does she fly?

is blackwatch evil?

is overwatch an elite force of people?

Well dang

I did lose braincells

The first 2 killed me

[pliant sparrow]

No, in a familial sense, yes and we don't know, her suit allows her to fly, they are morally in a gray area, yes they were

[worthy rose]

i have more questions but i'll save them for later

Why does Zenyatta wear pants? Why can bastion not wear pants? Why is roadhog fat? Is junkrat ok? Why does he love explosives? Is ashe mc'cree's husband? Am I stupid? If bastion is a robot, and he can heal himself, why can't Zenyatta heal himself? Did Torb cause the omnic crisis because he created Bastion and stuff? Am i asking too many questions? Is Reaper evil? Why does Soldier 76 grab things out of his gluteus maximus? Where does Reaper get his guns from? Is Zenyatta part of the overwatch gang? Is tracer british? Why does tracer like saying the cavalry's here? Am i going to get muted for spam?

Oh gosh....

i think i killed him

@worthy rose i broke him

[pliant sparrow]

We don't know, we don't know, he either has a medical condition or ate too much, he seems like a maniac, no idea, no, you are in the r/ow server everyone is stupid, because bastion is designed to, he helped design them, no, he is an antagonist who desires to kill overwatch agents, I have no idea, no idea, no, yes, because she is pretty cheery, doubt it

Pls can I see my family now

[worthy rose]

sure

[terse oar]

Tracer says “the cavalry’s here” due to Torbjörn

In the Uprising comic, she gets to the jet and, being a newbie, Torbjörn mocks her

[worthy rose]

Ohhh

[terse oar]

Reading bits and pieces of your questions...

Torbjorn did not start the omnic crisis. While he is responsible for designing many types of omnics, they weaponized themselves and started the war on their own

[worthy rose]

huh

Does Torbjorn fire magma or lemonade? How did hitting the turret with a hammer make it more powerful? Is bastion Torb's child? If mercy just uses biotic shit then how can she fly down slowly while sniping dva's? Is d.va korean? Why doesn't d'va's home town have an actual law enforcement instead of relying on a teenager to save her? Where the fuck does d.va get her mech's from? Why does Tracer's chrono-accelerator de-activate when winston's down? Where does winston get his power from? IS genji a cyborg? How does he summon dragons? How does genji have so many ninja stars? Why does hanzo wear nothing? Does genji have a brother? Do my fingers hurt from typing? What company supplies Zarya with her amazing tech, how does Reinhart make shields? Who taught reinhart to be chunky and camp?

[terse oar]

Genji is a cyborg

Zarya pulled her weapon off of an omnic

Korea relies on the MEKA squad since AI defenses were rendered useless by the Gwishin, meaning they need piloted mechs

Reinhardt’s barrier is made of hard light

[worthy rose]

hard light? wha-

@pliant sparrow did i break you

[terse oar]

Hard light is what Symmetra mainly uses. Barriers in the game are made of it

[heavy pecan]

mhm yes

[worthy rose]

what do you mean

who's taiga

[heavy pecan]

forehead

you said to much

you need to go now

[worthy rose]

what

[terse oar]

Please move this conversation else where

[worthy rose]

sorry, didn't know i couldnt ask questions

[keen folio]

magma. by engineering it. no, but torb helped bastion. she's multi-skilled. yes. dva does have law enforcement, she's one of them. from her government. it doesnt. he gets his power from food, hes a biological being. yes. using his clan's skills taught to him. its in game. he doesnt wear nothing. yes, its hanzo. not sure, only you can answer that question. Russian government. Rein makes shields from the tech suit. Balderich taught rein.

there answered all your questions 🙂

[terse oar]

Winston gets his power (assuming your referring to primal rage) from genetic modification

[worthy rose]

in the cinematic winston went down and tracer's accelerator turned off

[terse oar]

That’s just due to her using it to fast

It’s for cinematic purposes it had to recharge as Winston went down

[worthy rose]

ohh

welp thats all my questions

see you tommorow

[terse oar]

Think of it like when you run out of Blinks

[worthy rose]

you need to recharge

[terse oar]

Yes

That’s what was happening

[worthy rose]

huh, the more you know

thanks for putting up with me!

[peak escarp]

questions are fine, but you should ask them one at a time so people have a chance to answer

[iron plume]

and also not call people "broken" or "dead" when they don't respond within minutes

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose Please read the hero bios before asking random questions like "Is D.Va Korean" or "Who is Genji's brother?"

[worthy rose]

sorry

[limpid agate]

Especially since some of your questions like "Does Torbjorn fire magma or lemonade?" makes the whole post read like a shitpost

[worthy rose]

idk, i didnt even know there was a hero bio

[limpid agate]

!!loreheroes

[twilit nacelle]

To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/#story

[worthy rose]

Huh

ooh my favorite guy is typing

[feral musk]

So were the shorts with like D.Va and Genji fighting a dragon and Hanzo and that one chick canon?

[worthy rose]

in the words of you

[limpid agate]

The Heroes of the Storm shorts are not canon.

[feral musk]

Oh didn't know they were for Heroes of The Storm

[worthy rose]

this lore place is deadly

[limpid agate]

D.Va and Genji did not fight Diablo. They've never met.

And Hanzo never met/fought Alexstraza

Diablo/Warcraft exist as games made by Blizzard in universe.

[feral musk]

Ah thanks

[nova sphinx]

Watching the animated shorts always gets me emotional

[worthy rose]

Yes like the museum and the recall short.It shows Reaper's awesomeness!

[proud pike]

Awesomeness?

[worthy rose]

Like Reaper knocking out Winston in a few shots

[proud pike]

(lets be honest he's screwed up on all these missions)

[worthy rose]

And Reaper using his death blossom

I mean he almost won all of them

[proud pike]

But monke has an angy shield

[worthy rose]

And failing to steal Doomfist gauntlet was Widow's fault

And he almost won in Infiltration but Sombra had to betray him

??

Thats sombra for u

[proud pike]

Don't forget about the database, which he also didn't download, and there was already purely his problem.

not problem, more like ''mistake''

although its just because monke can be angy

[worthy rose]

Ok tbf Reaper won in the end.He stole a part of the Overwatch data base and even killed a few OW agents

Whereas Winston gained nothing but forcing Reaper to escape

[proud pike]

Also, DF failed to monke too

Cause again, angy

cheat mode irl

[worthy rose]

Winston in rage mode is pretty op

I think a fight between primal Winston and Reaper can go either way

[limpid agate]

Reaper is a jobber

The only fights he has won were against non-heroes

[pliant sparrow]

Overwatch isn't really the type of story where reaper is going to beat down a hero

[peak escarp]

Reaper would have beaten Winston both times (and Soldier in Old Soldiers) if he hadn't stopped to monologue

[dim horizon]

Which is arguably the most 'Reaper' thing about him. He's fully embraced being a supervillain...and that includes the overcooked ego.

[peak escarp]

he's a drama queen