lore-discussion

[sharp orbit]

Pretty cool that we know who trained Genji and Hanzo in sword fighting now

[peak escarp]

they're the ones living in Shimada castle

[sharp orbit]

I guess her daughter might be the new hero?

[peak escarp]

probably

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp I of all people vulgar!?Rest assured I find stuff like this deplorable.I was just curious

[terse oar]

“Perhaps most boldly of all, messages painted in bright, conspicuous colors have started to appear, though they are quickly painted over.”

Jeff had said that the graffiti on Kanezaka was particularly something to look at. Other than the small symbols people have been able to pick out of it, is there maybe a hidden message?

[peak escarp]

it says yokai

[arctic loom]

weird the map didnt come

for ow yet

[terse oar]

It’s probably coming tomorrow

[peak escarp]

yeah

content updates are usually Tuesday

[terse oar]

^^

[limpid agate]

And it will be tomorrow

We will probably get sprays with some landmarks too

Not any characters from the letter, though

[terse oar]

With the announcement of the Kanezaka challenge, we can also now say that the Lunar New Year will start Jan 26

[peak escarp]

Feb 9 is more likely

[terse oar]

That’s way to late, the real Lunar New Year is on Feb 12

[peak escarp]

yeah, and the LNY event typically starts the week before

so Feb 9 or 4

[terse oar]

And every event this past (Overwatch) year has followed a mini event (Summer - Maestro, Halloween - OWL All Star and London Calling, Winter - Restoration)

[limpid agate]

With this, that source saying no events in January is officially bullshit

So I will say January 28th

That way, it ends just before Blizzconline, just like Halloween

So there is no overlap

[terse oar]

Probably

[peak escarp]

they didn't start the day it ended though

there was always at least a week between them

[terse oar]

Hmmm, you got me there

But I do agree with Taiga that they wouldn’t want it to overlap with BlizzConline

[peak escarp]

why not?

Halloween Terror overlapped with Blizzcon in 2019

Halloween Terror 2019 started on 15 October, 2019, and ended on 4 November, 2019. Blizzcon 2019 was Nov. 1, 2019 – Nov. 2, 2019

[arctic loom]

lunar year 26?

doctor you who are expert about lore what skin you think is missing

on archives event

[peak escarp]

we have lore skins for everyone who would need them

Tracer's training leotard from the uprising comic would be nice though

or her outfit from London Calling

[cosmic crest]

Yes please.

She looked gorgeous in her London Calling outfit.

[scarlet apex]

YO

did you guys see the new piece of lore in the subreddit

[peak escarp]

yes

[arctic loom]

wait what?

we got new lore today?

[limpid agate]

Yes

[peak escarp]

there was a letter from Asa Yamagami to her husband Toshiro

Asa was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster

[limpid agate]

!!loreText

[twilit nacelle]

Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

News Reports:
Fading Glory; Jack Morrison: http://bit.ly/2f9TPq4
Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumériCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumériCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX

Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Yamagami: https://bit.ly/2XJC9Jr

Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

[limpid agate]

Its at the bototm of the list. Documets - Yamagami

[upper pilot]

Ok so I think that the new hero (the girl with fox) we are getting is a support

the whole fortune thing sounds like could be used as a team buff (maybe an ult?)

and she has a big shuriken as a weaopn (or ability) and I do not think that Blizzard would want to have 2 shuriken-based DPS

[peak escarp]

a Damage hero could have a team buff ult

[upper pilot]

yeah but we already have Genji with shurikens

also if they release 5-6 heroes and Sojourn is most likely to take a DPS role, then there is probably 2 tanks, 2 suppots and 1 more DPS released and I doubt they would reveal two DPS heroes first

[peak escarp]

we don't know how many heroes they're releasing with OW2

[upper pilot]

yeah we dont

but still

she probably isnt dps because there would be 2nd shurikenbased character, the fortune thing sounds like a teambuff which would be a ult probably and picture of girl with a fox looks more a friendly than agressive one

[peak escarp]

what picture?

[upper pilot]

also I dont think the fox would be used as a turret/choose who the fox should target, as from DPS we already have turrets and bob for that

[peak escarp]

we don't know what she looks like

[upper pilot]

but this could be used if the hero is a support

yeah we dont but I mean

[peak escarp]

foxes can be aggressive

[upper pilot]

like it is known that it is a girl with short hair and fox

it would be messy to go with the fox all around imo

unless the fox wont be in the game itself

[peak escarp]

it might not be

Ganymede isn't

[upper pilot]

like maybe its like Ganymade (idk how to spell) with bastion

yeah

but then idk still sounds support to me

also hanzo and genji are alredy a dps and having a third one that come from the same place?

nah

I'm pretty sure the girl with fox hero is a support

[peak escarp]

like how we have 4 American dps?

[upper pilot]

fair point

I still think this will be a support

from dps only symmetra has a team-supporting abilities and they plan to rework her again anyways

ok soildier has a healing station but it is used more for himself

so I would not count on getting a DPS with teambuffs

[limpid agate]

You cannot assume role based on what we know

Assuming it is Asa:

• She is a swordmaster
  Assuming it is her daughter:
• She is very likely also skilled in kenjutsu (swordsmanship)
• Her father gave her a gift (implied to be a sword)

Its most likely her daughter

[upper pilot]

theoriticially yeah we know to less to guess now but then why would blizzard place the fortune/kitsune thingy at the end, kitsune is a fox and we know that the hero shilouette is with a fox

[peak escarp]

it could have nothing to do with the hero, and just be there for flavor

[upper pilot]

yes but even if it is for flavor then the hero must be connected to the fox

[peak escarp]

we already know she is

[upper pilot]

yep

so thats what im saying

maybe there wont be an actual fox in game but the fact that they mentioned the kitsune=fortune at the end

and the girl is connected to a fox

[peak escarp]

we know it's a fox-themed hero, but there's no reason to assume fox = support

[upper pilot]

not that fox=support but

fox=fortune as lore says

[peak escarp]

foxes in mythology are often tricksters

[upper pilot]

and fortune=luck

which seems like a support

oh well yeah

but then what does not compute is how she is a swordmaster but has a big shuriken-thingey

[limpid agate]

fox=fortune
The gambler is a dps

[peak escarp]

it's likely not the swordmaster

[limpid agate]

The gamer is a tank

The hacker is a dps

That's not a rule

[peak escarp]

it's the swordmaster's daughter

[upper pilot]

yes but

the girl is also skilled in swordsmanship

[limpid agate]

Lets look at another more obvious one

[upper pilot]

would not consider it is a gambler

[limpid agate]

What role is the sniper

[upper pilot]

like luck=/=gambling

what sniper has to do about it owo

[limpid agate]

What role is the sniper

[upper pilot]

DPS

but also

ana is a support

[limpid agate]

Yes

What role is the mech pilot

[upper pilot]

we may get one more in future but for now we have only dva who is a takn

tank

[limpid agate]

And Wrecking Ball is a tank

And Pharah is a dps

[upper pilot]

point?

[limpid agate]

You cannot assume role based of things that are even more arbitrary than "sniper" or "Mech pilot"

Basing role entirely off the fact that it is a fox motif is absurd

[upper pilot]

im not basing the role on the thing that the hero is tied to a fox but that it is mentioned in the teaser "May she flick all nine of them and send some much-needed good fortune our way" which is in reference to kitsune which is shown with the hero at least on the shilouette

[peak escarp]

why would "good fortune" mean a support hero

[upper pilot]

good fortune = luck

[peak escarp]

supercharger is a team buff on a tank

[upper pilot]

our way

[peak escarp]

infrasight is a team buff on a dps

[upper pilot]

but this is something else

we dont know what luck would do in OV

[peak escarp]

I don't think you can work luck into a hero ability

too much random chance

[upper pilot]

an ult maube

[peak escarp]

"good fortune" is usually meant to mean wealth and happiness

[upper pilot]

maybe lower cooldowns

owo

or faster ult building

[peak escarp]

that would be broken

[upper pilot]

if this happens only for 5-6 seconds

[opaque tundra]

i imagine balancing a luck based ability would be really difficult

[upper pilot]

and if only in aoe to the hero with a fox

which would be easily killable?

[peak escarp]

it's also not really worth discussing, since this is the lore discussion channel

[upper pilot]

well fai

r

sucks that there is no speculation channel

[opaque tundra]

i think that the daughter mentioned in the letter will most likely be the new hero

im interested in what kind of character they'll be, in terms of personality and background

[white cobalt]

You can speculate here but based properly in the hero lore.

[peak escarp]

she might be the vigilante that's protecting Kanezaka and hassling the Hashimoto

[white cobalt]

Or the universe itself

[peak escarp]

nicknamed Yokai, from the graffiti seen on Kanezaka

we do have quite a few vigilantes on the roster

McCree, Soldier, Ana, Hanzo

[white cobalt]

One thing I'm wondering the letter is maybe when hanzo/genji are kids right? If anything makes me think can be the daughter the new hero or just another connection.

Like Liao was to Echo.

[peak escarp]

there's nothing to suggest it isn't present day

[upper pilot]

aw what really sucks is how we just get to know that anything like Hashimoto exists. I hope we would get to know a certain character that belongs to that clan, would be fun to have such hero released but even as a NPC

[peak escarp]

the Shimada clan is gone, the Hashimoto have taken their place

[upper pilot]

yeah also Hanzo has a (Halloween I think?) event voiceline “Shimada will strike again” so the letter seems to be a present day

[white cobalt]

What

[upper pilot]

wouldn’t call it gone, it still exists but is not ‘ruling’

[peak escarp]

the Hashimoto moved in 12 years ago, which lines up with when Genji might have been "killed"

[upper pilot]

sorry “The Shimada Empire Will Rise Again”*

that’s a voiceline of hanzo which was release on Halloween Terror 2020

[peak escarp]

yes

[upper pilot]

yeah but moved in doesn’t mean that they have already taken control

but we don’t know how old Asa is

and how old their daughter is

but yeah such teasers used to be from past I will give you that

so it could be not present day

[peak escarp]

again, there's nothing to suggest it isn't present day

[upper pilot]

yep

but the Hanzo voiceline implies that present day there is still Hashimoto

[peak escarp]

yes

that Hashimoto have taken over Shimada castle

[upper pilot]

yup

and it’s still a thing presentday

and was at the time of the letter

[peak escarp]

because the letter is present day

[upper pilot]

we don’t know that

[peak escarp]

why wouldn't it be?

[upper pilot]

why would it be

[peak escarp]

nothing in the letter hints at it being in the past

[upper pilot]

neither at being in the present

[peak escarp]

when they give us things from the past, they make sure it's obvious

[upper pilot]

hmm

[peak escarp]

they'll say "x years ago" or reference things we know the relative dates for

at the time of the letter, the Shimada are gone and the Hashimoto have taken over

this is how things are currently

the letter also mentions that it's cherry blossom season, which lines up with the approximate time of year that I think Zero Hour/OW2 takes place

[upper pilot]

fair point

[rugged raptor]

is the new character gonna be genji two: electric boogaloo

[limpid agate]

No

[worthy rose]

No fan would take such a name or the hero seriously

So no they would never do it

[limpid agate]

I wonder

!!loreTweets

[twilit nacelle]

Hero Teasers:
Zarya: https://bit.ly/2LQVQbX
McCree: https://bit.ly/2XgY6Pi
Soldier 1: https://bit.ly/2XdfGUl
Soldier 2: https://bit.ly/2Tr2TMR
Junkers 1: https://bit.ly/36lCrcW
Junkers 2: https://bit.ly/36hFdj5
Ana: https://bit.ly/3cRvRgx
Sombra: https://bit.ly/2LHZIw7
Orisa 1: https://bit.ly/2ANoCbq
Orisa 2: https://bit.ly/2WOJE1S
Brigitte 1: https://bit.ly/3cQok1E
Brigitte 2: https://bit.ly/3bOU1af
Brigitte 3: https://bit.ly/36hPmfH
Echo 1: https://bit.ly/3bR3JbY
Echo 2: https://bit.ly/3e8msl9
Echo 3: https://bit.ly/2zgjM66

Map Teasers:
Gibraltar: https://bit.ly/2Xix8Xh
Numbani: https://bit.ly/2WN0ZYY
Volskaya: https://bit.ly/2WLQvcq
Hollywood: https://bit.ly/2WNMxzP

Archives Logs:
Retribution Reyes: https://bit.ly/2WNN0lz
Retribution McCree: https://bit.ly/2WP3U3y
Retribution Genji: https://bit.ly/2Triyf5
Retribution Moira: https://bit.ly/2ykYO5F
Storm Rising Sojourn: https://bit.ly/2ToIqbn
Storm Rising Max: https://bit.ly/36fjxUY

[limpid agate]

No heroes appear to be in past map teasers

Hammond was in HLC though

[terse oar]

I still find it crazy that a person on Reddit managed to predict Hammond (that he was a hamster) about two weeks before his reveal

[peak escarp]

in retrospect it's kinda obvious

the clues were all there, most people were just too focused on apes

[limpid agate]

I was arguing he was a small harmless non-monkey animal for over a year. But I harped more on cat than hamster as the example.

[last inlet]

Yeah, I mean, we didn't have a reason to believe hamster, especially when jetpack cat was a thing they'd talked about before. Albeit as a piece of trivia more than anything

Non-monkey made enough sense, it's just the specific animal that would've been harder to get right

[peak escarp]

I thought it would be a lemur or something, ape-like but smaller

[naive vault]

great, there are 2 of 'em now. RIP to all supports main out there

[peak escarp]

we don't know what she'll be

[last glacier]

who is Hanna Song?

[proud pike]

D.Va

[iron plume]

Hana Song is d.va's real name

[slender vine]

for real?

[hushed adder]

lol

yeah

[gloomy rune]

Just a remainder that in the overwatch 2 campaign we will most likely see a character ||pass away||

[cerulean ice]

well thats not surprising

its just likely, not most likely

[languid vapor]

||please let brig or mei die||

[cerulean ice]

well in seriousness, i dont think brig would

i can see mei dying though, not because i dislike her

[proud pike]

Lets be honest

Brig is a... side character a bit

[cerulean ice]

shes cliched

[proud pike]

No, that's not what I meant.

It's just that her role isn't very big.

As I can see

[cerulean ice]

yes

[upper pilot]

I think Reinhardt will die

or Ana

which would bring Pharah's lore a bit ;3

[proud pike]

I bet for S76

Death

[upper pilot]

maybe tracey

oh wait no she could recall

[cerulean ice]

she can be outsmarted

[proud pike]

Like DF

[cerulean ice]

which isnt difficult

[upper pilot]

well yeah but mmmmmm

shes main hero of ov

i mean cover hero

[cerulean ice]

no shes just a poster girl

not a main character

[upper pilot]

so shes iconic ✨✨

yeah

I dont think they would want to change that

BUT WHAT I KNOW IS THAT LUCIO WONT DIE AT LEAST NOT AT THE END OF RIO CINEMATIC

wanna know why?

[proud pike]

tbh, not so

[upper pilot]

we see lucio in gibraltar (I think?) with mei, reinhardt and sojourn

and they wouldnt be able to meet before getting to know each other in rio

[cerulean ice]

its not like theyre hiding it

lol

[upper pilot]

mmm

[proud pike]

[upper pilot]

then why would they end the cinematic like that

with the 'OMG whots gonna happen will lucio make it thru'

[cerulean ice]

thats basically that

but its obvious as to what will happen to him

otherwise, its stupid and pointless

[upper pilot]

yes we know that he survives lol

[golden jasper]

Wait really?

[last glacier]

how do i ddo spoiler thing

[gloomy rune]

There is loads of characters someone is most likely getting ||unalived||. Also all the old charcters

[gloomy rune]

|| on both sides

[proud pike]

So... u think that Reyes/S76 will die?

[gloomy rune]

Or Anna

[proud pike]

one "N"

[gloomy rune]

And most of talon

I think doom fist will be

[proud pike]

neh

Pls, no

No DF's death

[last glacier]

do stars work?

¦f¦

[gloomy rune]

• these?

[last glacier]

yes

[gloomy rune]

• makes it like this

[swift mason]

Rein would make the most sense to be the one who dies in the main cast of characters, but a side character like Maxmillien would be way more likely

[last glacier]

agrees

agreed

[proud pike]

New LC tomorrow, yeah?

[swift mason]

It would be thursday for us raf

Tomorrow is the Kanezaka challenge

[silver oriole]

The funny thing about Kanezaka challenge, is last night my friend's mic wasn't working, so she got offline or whatever. So I get on Youtube and in my recommended is Bro You Whack yelling about a female ninja supposedly being the reason Genji uses a sword and shuriken insteand of a bow like his brother, because Hanzo doesn't use a sword. I was shaking my head so much

But seriously, has anyone read the Kanezaka letter? From the wife to her husband/the swordsmith?

[shy jackal]

i dont trust bro you wack ever since he ranked Hammond over winsston cuz he thought overwatch didnt have that type of character then porceeded to follow it up with " like, there is no talking monkey or anything"

And i have holy shit

its a lot to take in

[cerulean ice]

@shy jackal wrong channel

[shy jackal]

oh sorry ;-;
i was just kina responding to what was being said earlier

[iron plume]

Most regulars have read the letter

It's been discussed as it was released

[silver oriole]

It seems interesting

[iron plume]

And the reason Hanzo doesn't use a sword is because he gave it up after killing Genji

Originally they both used them

[silver oriole]

I realize that, in fact, there's an in-game interaction that says Hanzo was always the better swordsman.

[shy jackal]

wait really?

Theres an interaction like that

[shy jackal]

I new hero in overwatch2 maybe? theres a very good chance that its this asa figure or maybe her daughter

i know they wouldnt add a new character to current overwatch so most likely a hero for overwtach 2

[silver oriole]

^Gremlin is most likely correct

However, since we know it's probably some ninja, I'm scared that they'll be a dps

[shy jackal]

i dont know. Im thinking if its the daughter, its gonna be a dps

but i think if its asa (the mother) it has a good chance of being a support

or a dps we never know

i was thinking dps would make sense since she was teh one to teach the shimadas how to use the sword but i would love to see strong japanese healer mom

[silver oriole]

Ana, but Japanese

[shy jackal]

BASICALLY

ANA ASA COMBO

THAT WOULD BE GREAT

[silver oriole]

Plot twist; it's a tank

[shy jackal]

UAGHDFISHA ISUTHAT WOULD BE KINDA BADASS THO

[slow tartan]

She throws katanas at people

She doesn't give enough of a shit anymore to actually swordfight so she just throws katanas and impales people with them

[shy jackal]

this tbh

god i would love for that to ahppen

[silver oriole]

Smexy

[peak escarp]

that's stupid

she comes from a family of swordmakers, no way she would disrespect swords like that

!!shitposting @rain star

[twilit nacelle]

@rain star Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[shy jackal]

it may be stupid but its a funny lil idea

and i think sword wielding tank would be teh funnest thing ever

in all seriousness tho, i do think shes gonna be a dps but she has a good chance of being support

[worthy rose]

I would love another support rn

The only way I see the throwing sword thing work is if they make it like a boomerang or something

[worthy rose]

A boomerang would be sick

[shy jackal]

this tbh

BOOMERANG SUPPORT

[worthy rose]

BOOMERANG SUPPORT

[shy jackal]

SPREAD THE WORD

[worthy rose]

Y E S

How would she heal tho if she's support. Is it gonna be like ana where she just hits people with it

[peak escarp]

reminder that this is the lore discussion channel

[worthy rose]

Ik

[shy jackal]

bonk on the head with the boomerang

[worthy rose]

That'd be awesome

[shy jackal]

In a realness asa would NOT be the boomerang support considering the lore we have on her already but maybe a junker boomerang support

[peak escarp]

you can discuss lore reasons why she might have abilities, but the actual mechanics are best discussed in #general-discussion or #overwatch

[worthy rose]

I'm just gonna switch to general discuss

[peak escarp]

besides, we already know this hero will have a 4-sided giant shuriken-like weapon

[worthy rose]

So greninja from Pokemon

Lmao

[peak escarp]

the person who saw it compared it to Yuffie

[shy jackal]

that would be so cool for her ;-;

is that confirmed/

[worthy rose]

Ooooooooo

That'd be cool

[peak escarp]

however they only saw a silhouette (no detail) so he could have been mistaken

[worthy rose]

Yeah. Either way, NEW HERO

[peak escarp]

we probably won't get her until OW2

[worthy rose]

Yeah, they said their done until then. I don't see where she would fit into the lore of Genji and Hanzo

Tho of course there is always a way

[shy jackal]

who asa? asa is team shimada clan against the hashimotos

[peak escarp]

yes

[shy jackal]

to put it loosely

[peak escarp]

Asa Yamagami is the swordmaster who trained Hanzo and Genji

[worthy rose]

Ahhhhh makes sense

I miss things often

[shy jackal]

do you know if Asa or her daughter is going in the game

im assuming asa

[peak escarp]

her husband Toshiro probably made their weapons

[worthy rose]

Yeah

[peak escarp]

the daughter is more likely

due to the weapon we discussed above

[shy jackal]

ah ok

[peak escarp]

we know Asa uses a sword

[shy jackal]

do you think theyd consider adding both to the roster cuz id lve to see asa in the roser

i doubt they would

[peak escarp]

possibly

we do have Ana and Pharah

[worthy rose]

You think she has like an all-powerful dragon? This is a stretch but she like split it into two to give to the shimada bros. I mean, Hanzo and Genji did start as one person. They could bring back that Idea but in a different way

[peak escarp]

she doesn't have a dragon

[worthy rose]

Aight

[peak escarp]

that's a Shimada thing

[shy jackal]

they have a kitsune i believe

nine tailed fox

[worthy rose]

That'd also be cool

[peak escarp]

Kanezaka is more associated with foxes

[shy jackal]

or is that teh hashimotos

[worthy rose]

Idk, I'm just listing the random thoughts that go through my mind

[peak escarp]

the Hashimoto have the Tiger's Den bar as a hideout

[worthy rose]

That's cool

[peak escarp]

so maybe they're tiger-themed

[shy jackal]

Is it asa with the fox or the hashimotos

Im assuming asa

[worthy rose]

Yeah

I wanna know where she fits into Overwatch itself tho. Because if she's in the second game, when Overwatch is being reassembled

What if she makes them all updated weapons

[peak escarp]

Asa

[shy jackal]

if you look at some japanese culture, you can find dragon and toger themed stories. i dont remember what it was cuz this was a while back, but i remember teh dragon ruling the sky and teh tiger ruling the ground type of thing

so youmight be onto something there

[peak escarp]

yeah

[shy jackal]

its her husband who makes the weapons. so maybe he might be picked up by overwatch ONLY IF hr can escape the hashimotos

[worthy rose]

Nice

Yeah

I'm excited to see this character

I want the bunny that Moira has to be a hero

[shy jackal]

same. i think this is where the shimada lore is gonna pick up. its so complicated compared to the overwatch lore (besides zen lore, in which we dont have any)

[worthy rose]

Yeah

It's alot of just "you have betrayed me" and "I forgive you"

[shy jackal]

i think if they played this right, and maybe followed it up with a short story or comic or hell even a novel if we're llucky, tehy could open up a bunch of opperatunities and at the same time tie off some loose ends and give us answers that we want

[worthy rose]

Yeah. Maybe a cinimatic. Or maybe even having her become a part of talon would be cool

[shy jackal]

although seeing her become a part of talon would be interesting, i highly doubt she would join considering how dirty the hashimotos are doing her

and her family

[worthy rose]

Yeah

Just an idea

[shy jackal]

But again, the daughter is going to be th eone becoming a part of the ow2 roster, so i think we're going to be following her viewpoint mostly. she could go her own way

[worthy rose]

But saying shes from that clan. She's definitely not gonna not be all "puppies and rainbows"

[shy jackal]

That could be true

lets also consider age for asecond. How old is she? and hwo much has she seen? those are both possible facotrs

[worthy rose]

Yeah. Maybe like an Artemis sorta character. Goddess of the hunt

She could have her animal sidekick

[shy jackal]

and what does she actually do for the clan? We can safely assume her father is making weapons (which i think is what he does, confirmed). is she a assassinor just an affiliate. a buisness type deal runnin ghte inside opperations

Artemis woth a shuriken thing

[worthy rose]

Yeah

Artemis was associated with protection of women too

[peak escarp]

the Yamagami family are swordmakers, not a crime family

[shy jackal]

im talking about her and the hashimotos. her father makes weapons but what does the daughter do, if she is old enough to do something

[peak escarp]

she doesn't do anything for them

she lives in the village with her mother

[shy jackal]

oh she does? i though she was with her dad

my bad

[peak escarp]

he sent her a blade

[shy jackal]

thats right.

you right

my bad

[worthy rose]

I still like the idea of a goddess sorta character. Like mercy but more violent

[shy jackal]

mercy but there is no healing

just blades

no mercy

[worthy rose]

Lmao

Artemis-like is still cool to me

She could have her animal sidekick

[peak escarp]

I don't think an animal sidekick in the game would be a good idea

I don't want to shoot them

[worthy rose]

Like her ult

Like snowball and mei

[arctic loom]

btw

we got the update?

or not yet?

[worthy rose]

No

[peak escarp]

in about an hour

[worthy rose]

WAIT WHAT UPDATE

[arctic loom]

the new map

[worthy rose]

I DIDN'T ON

[peak escarp]

usually they hit at 11am pst

[worthy rose]

KNOW

[arctic loom]

the new map with the challenge skin

[worthy rose]

Oh, that update

[peak escarp]

for Kanezaka and the Hanzo challenge

[worthy rose]

I'm not gonna do that one lol. Finals are currently my top priority

[shy jackal]

hazno challenge

im so excited its been 4 years ;-;

[worthy rose]

Lol

[arctic loom]

yeah the skin look cool

but i wonder if we going get some lore like how we got with sym skin

[worthy rose]

Yeah

I'm looking through all of my Overwatch books now seeing if I can find anything on Asa

[shy jackal]

thats what i was saying before. give us a comic or short story or even a novel if we're lucky

[peak escarp]

this isn't a lore-based skin

[shy jackal]

asa is relatively new but if you manage to find her youd be a god

[worthy rose]

Yeah

Atleast some lore on their weapons or clan

[peak escarp]

and we already got Asa's letter

[arctic loom]

now people saying about we get that new fox hero

before ow 2

but they said echo was the last

just if they changed of idea

[peak escarp]

when they release lore with a challenge, it always comes before

[arctic loom]

to delay ow 2 more

[shy jackal]

the fox hero is coming in ow2

[peak escarp]

there's no evidence this will be a hero release before OW2

the letter was lore for Kanezaka, not a hero teaser

[shy jackal]

i dont think theyd adda nything else after kanezaka

just more skins

[worthy rose]

I forgot one of the photos in this book is Genji and Mercy writing each other letters, awwww

[peak escarp]

(well it's both, but it was meant as a Kanezaka teaser)

[worthy rose]

I MIGHT'VE FOUND SOMETHING

[shy jackal]

OH?

[worthy rose]

In one of the images in this book. If it's gonna be Asas daughter. Then she'd be around Jack Morrison and Ana's age. There's this photo jack is holding of a women who looks kinda like how the shimada bros look. She's got black hair that's up in a ponytail and has bangs. It's not the of anna either.

Ana*

[peak escarp]

which book?

[worthy rose]

Anthology pt.1

I might be trippin but I don't recognize her

[peak escarp]

I mean which comic?

[worthy rose]

The Christmas one

[peak escarp]

this?

[shy jackal]

thats his ex boyfriend

vincent

[peak escarp]

yeah, its Vincent

[worthy rose]

Ooooohhhhhh k. I forgot that. Sorry lol

[shy jackal]

no youre good! The onein the comic isnt the best example and a bit confusing without context

[worthy rose]

Yeah

[shy jackal]

but i appriciate the attempt

[peak escarp]

the art in the Christmas comic is pretty bad anyway

[arctic loom]

he still with vincent?

or not?

[shy jackal]

no

[worthy rose]

I'm closely inspecting the photo of Hanzo in the shop lol

[peak escarp]

no, they broke up before the crisis

[shy jackal]

they broke up before teh swiss incident

[worthy rose]

These things were in my closet and they are d u s t y

[shy jackal]

oh i thought they wee still together in overwatch lol

im dumb

[peak escarp]

nope

[shy jackal]

that makes a lot more sense now

[peak escarp]

Jack was married to his job and couldn't make time for a relationship

[shy jackal]

yea i assumed it had soemthing to do with that

thanks for that

[peak escarp]

Reyes and Ana did have families

although we dont know much about Reyes's

[shy jackal]

wait when did reyes have a family

[worthy rose]

If Asa taught them. She could be the Artemis sorta like I said. Because it said here they were closely trained in Archery. But that's a stretch

[shy jackal]

is that the chirstmas comic thing

[peak escarp]

it was mentioned in Bastet

[shy jackal]

oh

i havent read that in forever

ill reread it

[peak escarp]

Asa is a swordmaster, not an archer

[worthy rose]

She could be both. I'm reading the anthropology 1. And the updated world guide. Which I found in a goodwill for some reason.

[peak escarp]

she taught both Genji and Hanzo how to use the sword

[shy jackal]

hanzo only took up the bow after he killed genji, swearing not to pick up a sword after what he had done

she could be able to use both but i think theyre focused on teh sword aspect

[worthy rose]

He could have gone to asa to better train him

In bow and arrow

[peak escarp]

the letter doesn't say anything about archery

Asa is a student of kenjutsu, which is swordfighting

[worthy rose]

If she helped train them tho. And If her husband made the bow. She could've been able to use it

[peak escarp]

Hanzo would have learned archery from someone else

her husband is a swordsmith

not a bowyer

[worthy rose]

I wanna know who trained him in bow and arrow

[peak escarp]

they are very different skillsets

[shy jackal]

most likely one of the clan elders or Sojiro himsel fwhen he was really young

[worthy rose]

As someone who does swordfighting and Archery. It's not hard to learn both

[peak escarp]

sure

but Asa is only listed as a swordmaster

[worthy rose]

It doesn't mean she doesn't have other interests

They wouldn't have her as a bow or sword in the game tho because they don't like copies

[peak escarp]

we can't assume something if it isn't mentioned

[worthy rose]

Its just an idea

Ehhhhhh, how bout we wait till this update to see

[shy jackal]

its a valid idea but it unlikely

[worthy rose]

If we get story with it

Yeah

[shy jackal]

or if theres map clues

i see why youd wanna wiat

to see if that gets confirmed

[worthy rose]

It's gonna be like sombra. Where on dorado there were files that were signed with her name

But on her corresponding map

[peak escarp]

that's like assuming Mercy was the one who made Genji's body

[shy jackal]

theres graffiti in hanamura signed by hanzo that might help further your ideas

wait wasnt mercy the one who made genjis body?

[worthy rose]

Sorta

[shy jackal]

or did she jsut save hiom

[worthy rose]

We don't know

It could've been Moira as far as we know

They haven't given us a approved answer

[shy jackal]

wait i mightve been told lies didnt mercy make the body or just save him

[worthy rose]

We don't know still. They never added onto the story

It could've been mercy or someone else

I'm with the mercy idea tho

[peak escarp]

Mercy is a surgeon, not a cyberneticist

[worthy rose]

She is a scientist who does some engineering

[peak escarp]

she would have helped attach the body, but she didn't make/design it

Torbjorn built her Valkyrie suit based on her ideas

[shy jackal]

ok thast where i got confused

[cosmic crest]

I imagined Genji's cybernetics where a joint effort between Mercy and Torbjorn.

[shy jackal]

thanks for that

[shy jackal]

this makes the most sense

[cosmic crest]

Torb did create his own prosthetic arm.

[shy jackal]

thanks im an idiot

[worthy rose]

Torb

It says in this book, torb adapts her biotic research to create weapons and aids for Overwatch

[shy jackal]

i thought that was ana

[cosmic crest]

Did you mean Mercy?

@worthy rose

[peak escarp]

Torb used Mercy's tech to make a gun for Ana

[worthy rose]

Torb takes her ideas to build stuff But mercy didn't want weapons made with it

[peak escarp]

against her wishes

[worthy rose]

It could easily mean he builds stuff on her ideas

[cosmic crest]

I didn't know it was Torb that made the biotic rifle.

[worthy rose]

I'm reading the updated guide book so I think it's right lol

[shy jackal]

I knew ana used mercy's tech but i dint knwo how it came to be

[worthy rose]

Yeah

[shy jackal]

i am making a lot of typing mistakes i am so sorry

[worthy rose]

It's like Lucio took syms weapons to make his own sorta

[shy jackal]

he took back his own father's wprl

[peak escarp]

Lucio's weapon was designed by his father

[shy jackal]

that was being stolen by vishkar

[worthy rose]

True. But some other stuffs too

[peak escarp]

while working for Vishkar

Lucio stole it from them

[worthy rose]

He took alot of stuff with him that wasn't his father. He wanted to protect his people so it's valid

[shy jackal]

i thought he only took his father's stuff and thats it

[peak escarp]

only his father's stuff is mentioned

[shy jackal]

if you want to be technical, yes, the stuff is Vishkars cuz its owned and patinted under their name, but it was lucio's father who initially created the stuff

[peak escarp]

he probably already had the hard light skates

[worthy rose]

Yeah. But he also stole info from them and some other tech

I'm pretty sure it was discussed on a panel

[shy jackal]

going back to an earlier thing mentioned, do you know what page Reye's fmaily was mentioned? in bastet

[worthy rose]

He was watching a family. Let me check the page

There's not page numbers. It's in the photo collage on the back of "reflections"

[peak escarp]

from Bastet

[worthy rose]

True

There's that theory that Pharah is one of their daughters. Idk tho

[shy jackal]

thank you!

Pharah's dad lives in canada and his name is sam

i believe

[peak escarp]

yes

[shy jackal]

id have to double check

oh i was right? bet

[peak escarp]

he's from Vancouver the Pacific northwest

[worthy rose]

I want lore on him now too

[peak escarp]

and is of First Nations ancestry

tribe unknown, but probably Haida

or Coast Salish

[worthy rose]

Or Inuit. I know that is spelled incorrect so don't come at me

I don't remember how to spell it

Actually, I think that's right

[peak escarp]

Inuit are mostly from the north

[worthy rose]

Not really. One of my friends dad's was one of the important dudes in the Inuit culture and they were all over Canada

[peak escarp]

compare Pharah's Thunderbird skin to Haida art

[worthy rose]

True

I shall walk away now

[peak escarp]

Inuit have a different art style completely

I live in Vancouver so I see Haida and Coast Salish art everywhere

it's distinct to the Pacific northwest

[iron plume]

touchdown seahawks

[silver oriole]

Actually, he stole Vishkar owned tech that was developed by his father

[worthy rose]

He took some other stuff too that didn't belong to his father. We had an entire conversation earlier on jt

It*

[worthy rose]

Read the entire conversation we had earlier

[silver oriole]

Time to scroll back up

Yeah, I don't get your point. I was correcting you on the Lucio weapon situation, I understand y'all were also talking about the other pieces of his equipment. I was talking about the actual sonic amplifier.

[worthy rose]

Well yeah, I get it there. But he also drops hints he stole some info and some other equipment from them to try to get them to leave his home

Which is valid

He was protecting what he loved

[pliant notch]

Anyone know who this Tato person is in the new spray?

[shy jackal]

no but she appears to be some sort of a blogger or something

[pliant notch]

Mmk thanks, just wondering since I couldn't find anything on Google

[worthy rose]

We asked for lore. Not sure if this is the lore we were looking for lol

Is there any lore in the update? I haven't gotten on yet

[harsh bloom]

If the shimada empire still doesn't exist, why does hanzo have the "shimada empire will rise again" voiceline

I heard it wasn't existing anymore

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose Do not post random tick tocks

[limpid agate]

That's what that line means

The Shimada Clan was destroyed. Hanzo is saying it will rise again.

[harsh bloom]

[limpid agate]

The letter we have only cements that further. The clan is gone and the Hashimoto have taken over.

[harsh bloom]

I want a new dps that also acts like a support tbh

But yeah I can't wait to hear the backstory to a new hero

[lyric sluice]

umm they arent support i guess but uhhh brigette, zenyatta, baptiste?

they sloid on healin and dps

[harsh bloom]

more

[lyric sluice]

although zenyatta has huge hitbox

ahh i see

you said more

[silver oriole]

I thought Hashimoto meant something like plague?

And it was the Shimada clan?

[shy jackal]

I do not know what Hashimoto means but all there is so far is that The Hashimoto clan (represented by tigers i believe) are not good people. They undo everything The Shimada clan has done for kanezaka (the shimada clan doing good for Kanezaka)

[terse oar]

I don’t know the direct translation of Hashimoto, but there is a thyroid disease named it

[rain star]

so hows lucio a worldwide celebrity if he steals from vishkar? regardless on your opinion abt it, hes still stealing

[rain star]

wate but the shimadas are a crime family, assasins, and maybe the drug cartel

*were

[odd imp]

Does Reaper have a base? Im getting some serious evil shit vibes from him?

it would be cool if he did....

[rain star]

he works for talon, so im guessing his base is talon hq

so like an evil base apartment

[odd imp]

Yeah thats in havana inst it?

[rain star]

instead of an evil base

[odd imp]

cool!

[rain star]

i hav no idea. ithink its a talon safehouse, but not hq since otherwise that omnic dude + security for talon is dumb

[odd imp]

posibly

who do u main?

[rain star]

ithink they mention it, but its been awhile since the last archives

[rain star]

ima dm since this is lore

[odd imp]

by omnic dude do you mean that creepy maximillian guy?

[odd imp]

k

[rain star]

yes i forgot his name

[limpid agate]

橋元

Hashi uses the character for bridge. Moto uses the character for origin.

Its just a surname

Its a different Hashimoto than the disease (橋本)

[rain star]

bridge orgin...

[limpid agate]

Its just a surname

Despite having a name that starts with Shima, Genji and Hanzo have nothing to do with islands.

And Tracer isn't from a family of ox farmers

Maybe they were 500 years ago

But its the 21st century. Most names are just names

[rain star]

🤷‍♂️ fair. are they in 22nd century? not out of the question to be in like 2101

[limpid agate]

21st century

Its approx the 2070s

[rain star]

ah
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[slow tartan]

Lucio became popular with his people in Brazil, and probably other communities dealing with the same problems from Vishkar, although he's definitely somewhat controversial, a lot of celebrities are anyways

Especially in a world spiraling into like, what, world war 4?

I read that the omnic crisis was essentially another world war so would a second crisis/whatever talon is starting begin basically a 4th world war?

[cosmic crest]

I guess you could essentially say that.

The omnic crisis was as impactful, if not more so, than both the world wars.

[slow tartan]

Also, on the topic of talon, I don't really get them

Like, sure, they're trying to start a war because doomfist wants humanity to get stronger via war

But if that's their goal why would anyone else support them when the other guys have agendas of their own?

Like take omnic militants, why would they support doomfist if doomfist has gone out and told the humans in numbani that he wants humanity to not fall behind omnics

Wouldn't that run counter to what a bunch of omnic militants want

Is null sector even aligned with talon or are they their own thing

[proud pike]

Second omnic crisis is like local conflicts

not WW4

[cosmic crest]

Local conflicts across the entire world all caused by one group, Null Sector.

I think you are under selling it a bit.

[slow tartan]

also, why did null sector abandon the purple/black color scheme and go with white and black in the overwatch 2 thing

[proud pike]

seconds omnic crisis in Russia only

for now

[cosmic crest]

Purple is still Null Sector's main colour wdym?

[slow tartan]

In the overwatch 2 cinematic they're white

Unless I missed something

That may just be because it's their french units?

And the UK guys, being the original, bear the actual colors

[cosmic crest]

Oh, they are mostly white.

[slow tartan]

Or maybe every region has a unique paint scheme?

[cosmic crest]

Their gun blasts are purple though.

[slow tartan]

I see

[cosmic crest]

I think the new NS units look a lot more threatening.

[slow tartan]

Eh, the color scheme is generic imo

Although the designs are cooler

Purple and black just feels more unique and defining

Talon is white and red, overwatch was white and blue, null sector being purple and black just feels better

[waxen summit]

Any idea who Tato is?

[limpid agate]

Nobody important

Just the girl on an advertisement

[proud pike]

Ehh. D.va's pistol exists in lore?

[peak escarp]

yes

[proud pike]

Where?

I dont remember it...

[limpid agate]

Shooting Star

Her only lore appearance

[proud pike]

Wait, on what moment?

[limpid agate]

She uses it multiple times

[proud pike]

Hm..

Okay

Thanks

[finite urchin]

I only saw her use it to shoot the core

[limpid agate]

She also shoots the Gwisin omnic with it

[last glacier]

I don't like DVA s lore

Even if she is a ||gamer||

Oops

[golden jasper]

Two lines on each side for the spoiler to work.

[last glacier]

oh

¦¦thanks¦¦

[golden jasper]

This --> || goes on both sides, not just one.

[last glacier]

||thanks||

[golden jasper]

There, you got it.

[cerulean ice]

idk why u covered that but sure

its not much of a spoiler anyways

[silver oriole]

Omg, D.va is a gamer! :0 SPOILER

[peak escarp]

being a gamer is almost the entirety of D.Va's lore

[fair jolt]

yeah and shes also a mech pilot for the government

best match up

[lyric sluice]

wrecking balls lore........

[peak escarp]

what about it?

[rain star]

wreking ball lore is:moon sneak mech champ hamster

[opaque tundra]

new london calling issue got released

[peak escarp]

yep

it was meh

[opaque tundra]

i feel like it was trying to do too much at the same time

it also felt kinda short

[terse oar]

The series as a whole has been pretty meh imo

[peak escarp]

yeah

[rain star]

late + meh 😠

[terse oar]

I’m starting to think this series isn’t going to reveal something as big as we’d hoped

[opaque tundra]

My problem with London Calling is that if feels like it doesn't know what it's doing. It wants to keep changing directions and throwing stuff in to keep it entertaining. I feel as if it doesn't have a clear focus, goal, or whatever you want to call it. I know it wants to be about omnic and human tensions but they throw things in there that are just...there? It's hard to explain. I'll give two examples. The Izzy conflict and chronal accelerator.

[peak escarp]

it's because they're trying to fit a new narrative into previously established events (Alive, Recall)

[terse oar]

~filler~

[opaque tundra]

Izzy is angery because of a misunderstanding, and the series is trying to build it up to something. I honestly thought that Tracer and Izzy would have a big ol' fight (not combat) and that Izzy would be angery at humans but it turns out that in issue #4 it's just kinda, ignored? I understand that Lady's death might've changed Izzy's mind, but I didn't get those vibes when Tracer left after the ceremony. Izzy just immediately sees right through Kace. The whole thing feels uncooked. It was just thrown in there, like what Agate said, for filler

The chronal accelerator thing feels useless too. It does keep her away for Izzy for a while, but that's all it does. Tracer could've used Winston's parts to fix it, and then after she's good, the omnics go cray cray. That would've been easier way to solve that broken accelerator from the end of Alive. Tracer taking time away to fix her accelerator also leaves room for potential interactions and some time to chill before everything goes cray cray. Those are just my thoughts and opinions

[limpid agate]

The pacing feels all over the place

[terse oar]

^

[limpid agate]

Plot threads feel like they're being abandonned or pushed in just for the sake of existing

The whole story is... Not good.

[opaque tundra]

yeah, it's a messy uncooked comic series

[terse oar]

Maybe Blizzard didn’t give Dark Horse enough direction? Idk, just seems odd to me

[opaque tundra]

that would make sense

if Dark Horse was just given Alive and blizzard said, "here, do something with this,", then the story's sloppiness makes sense

if they simply made an original story, it might not have as many sloppiness

[terse oar]

I feel like the big reveal of all of this is who the shooter is

[limpid agate]

They already told us

Its one of Kace's goons

[opaque tundra]

i feel bad that the shooter's character reveal is in a poorly written story. well, they might not be a super important character to overwatch's story but imma just wait and see what happens

[peak escarp]

I don't think the shooter will be relevant

[unreal tartan]

Does anyone have the link to the new comic? It hasn’t been pinned yet

[limpid agate]

1 sec

Tracer - London Calling:
#1: https://bit.ly/3mknXBx
#2: https://bit.ly/318GEix
#3: https://bit.ly/3lorayj
#4: https://bit.ly/2MTe3JM

@unreal tartan

[unreal tartan]

Ty!

[proud pike]

Bruh

Just read #4, why did they create this?

[peak escarp]

because they needed to put Recall in there somehow

[proud pike]

They just do some nonsense with the lines of the story.

It was a rhetorical question.

[pliant sparrow]

How obvious

[upper pilot]

LC#4, Page 16/17, isnt the man saying 'Prepare a team' Gabriel/Reaper?

[peak escarp]

no

that doesn't look anything like him

[proud pike]

Well, I thought the comic would be great, but I was so wrong.

[worthy rose]

No its not Reaper would not take his mask off and he should be deformed and ugly not look normal like that man

[proud pike]

Uh.... no, he's still normal

He wasn't disfigured, at least in Moira's origin he looked normal

[worthy rose]

If he wasn't disfigured why was Moira horrified when she looked at him?

[proud pike]

ehh? when?

[peak escarp]

you mean Ana

[cosmic crest]

That was when he received his genetic augmentations.

Presumably after the Swiss base was blown up he was put into the state he is in now.

[proud pike]

oh okay

[worthy rose]

Oh yeah sorry monkey brain moment lol

[limpid agate]

@proud pike That was 8+ years ago

London Calling #4 takes place shortly after Recall

So in the day with that picture, he would be disfigured

Either way, its not him. He was literally in Watchpoint Gibraltar 5 minutes prior

That's the opposite side of the continent

[peak escarp]

why

Zen is a good guy

he's a monk

[limpid agate]

!!shitposting @steel spire

[twilit nacelle]

@steel spire Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[torpid ibex]

who is excited about kanezaka lore

hanzo with the shades tho

[proud pike]

Not excited, but i like it

Although its much better than LC (imho)

[limpid agate]

That's because LC is not very good

[proud pike]

True

[gloomy kelp]

I think so that

[swift mason]

It’s all down to opinion really, if you like LC, you’re allowed to like it, if you don’t like it, you’re allowed to not like it. Yeah, I guess there are many reasons as to why it isn’t good, but if you enjoy it either way, than you do you. This is just a general statement, I don’t want anyone to think I’m attacking them

[calm bloom]

LC?

[swift mason]

London calling

The tracer comic series

[calm bloom]

oh

[kind spear]

I think they make a overwatch movie. The animation is literally on par with disney and pixar and the other one

Oh yes dreamworks

The characters and story will definitely appeal to people.

Am I the only one who thinks this ? Lol

[iron plume]

I'm sure plenty of people want it but it's a very long shot

Creative aspects aside, just the logistics issues:
Blizzard Animation does good shorts, but a feature length movie is a much wider scope that requires a lot more people and time, and a different structure
Even if they just "take the time" with the team they have, that means not doing shorts for Blizzard's other properties in the meantime
Blizzard also has no experience or connections publishing movies, which would mean they need a studio even if they make it themselves

So if this is going to happen, it's going to be made by an existing studio, not by Blizzard Animation
And mainstream studios are pretty wary of videogame properties, including Blizzard's own after Warcraft

[kind spear]

Yes I was thinking maybe blizzard can probably shop around for another company to produce it while blizzard themselves are directing and writing etc. I don't really understand why mainstream studios are so wary of video games though .

It seems like it been that way for a while.

[terse oar]

If Blizzard were to do it themselves, the animation and time costs would be huge

Most studios are probably weary of video games as well since most movies haven’t done that great

[valid terrace]

Video game movies usually bring in big groups as fans, but it's often hard to capture an interactive story as a 2 hour cinematic, as well as translate game mechanics and such. However, big fans will very loudly vocalize their complaints leading to subpar reviews, so a fresh universe is usually more stable in the long term.

[peak escarp]

a game like Overwatch with a large cast would be better suited to a series than to a single movie

[silver oriole]

Yes

[peak escarp]

there's no way you could fit 32 heroes into a 2-hour runtime and do them and their plotlines all justice

[rain star]

is there lore to any of the sprays other than the one we get from this weeks challenge anyone knows about?

[peak escarp]

they're things seen in Kanezaka

the dog from the pottery school, Tato from the Pugtato as, the fox shrine

[rain star]

so beyond the one graffiti spray there cannonically unimportant?

[terse oar]

Pretty much, the Twitch sprays are typically just nice little bonuses

[hidden sundial]

GuYs wHAt DoES LOre MeAN?//?/?/

[iron plume]

That would be one of the creative questions

I think it could work if it was set in the omnic crisis
as that's a bit more of a straightforward story, as well as a tighter cast

[peak escarp]

a movie would work if they limited it to a specific event, like the omnic crisis or the Swiss Base explosion

but then only certain heroes would appear

and people would complain that their favourite hero was "cut"

[iron plume]

fair

I was gonna say it would make sense if it's in crisis
but yea

[sinful hemlock]

wait...

There is LORE in ow???

[peak escarp]

Avengers had a main cast of what, six characters? and they still struggled to give each hero a moment in the spotlight

[iron plume]

hilarious

[peak escarp]

it was mostly Cap and Ironman

[iron plume]

well, that's less to do with there being six and more to do with one being Hawkeye

[peak escarp]

every franchise has their Hawkeye

[iron plume]

first avengers had a decent amount of everyone else
sans him

Overwatch's is Junkrat

[peak escarp]

we've got D.Va, Zarya, Lucio and Symmetra

[iron plume]

well, Lucio's being brought in

I'd say Hammond is more Hawkeye even if he has a connection

the Junkers in general

[peak escarp]

oh yeah

I always forget him

[iron plume]

D.Va and Zarya aren't personally connected but they're still fighting Omnics

In the wars that are a precursor to the big new Crisis

the junkers are off doing their own thing on the side

[peak escarp]

we have a lot of fringe characters who would be hard to fit into an ensemble movie without it feeling forced (like how everyone just shows up for the fight in Endgame)

[iron plume]

well, it at least makes sense for the fight in endgame

in overwatch they're also on different sides

[peak escarp]

that too

a series would be far better

it could be a series of isolated stories - like the animated shorts, but full episode length

maybe have a thread that ties them all together, but that's not necessary

[iron plume]

on one hand yes

on the other it would just make people bitch about "not developing the main story" more

[peak escarp]

that's what the game is for

side stories can be explored in external media

[iron plume]

well, yes
but when has that stopped anyone

[peak escarp]

they're going to complain regardless

[fair jolt]

ngl a overwatch series would be great

[slow tartan]

saturday morning cartoon, but it's overwatch

But yeah a series would be a lot better than a movie

Since a series can have episodes dedicated to individual characters

[worthy rose]

I heard tracer died 🥴

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose She didn't.

[limpid agate]

Fun fact, that exists in universe. Efi grew up watching the cartoons.

[fair jolt]

lol

[slow tartan]

huh

that makes sense actually

optimus morrison vs megareyes

[sand barn]

Lmao

[rain star]

hanzo

[peak escarp]

sure

[serene hedge]

This new fox character is giving me serious KDA Akali vibes

I got confused when hanzo got the Kanezaka skin instead of Genji, but then I realized it would make sense if he became fox girl’s mentor

[arctic loom]

my fear on this blizzcon is they say going be on november

or not even announce a date

[proud pike]

nope, they said that OW2 will be on BCO

[limpid agate]

Its the other way around

The letter introduced Asa, who trained Genji and Hanzo

She also has a daughter, who she presumably also trained

The new hero is mostly likely either Asa or her daughter, with most speculation leaning into her daughter

Rather than someone Hanzo trained

[worthy rose]

Wait so is Asa just a mentor

[peak escarp]

Asa was Genji and Hanzo's swordmaster

[worthy rose]

Ok, so no biological relationship

[peak escarp]

correct

[drifting rain]

is it confirmed that were getting a new character?

[peak escarp]

it's confirmed that we're getting new heroes with OW2

probably not before

[honest grove]

I have hope we will

[swift mason]

We definitely are, it literally says we are in the gameplay trailer

[unreal tartan]

We already have a guaranteed new hero in sojourn

[hasty basalt]

new ones in OW 2 yes...new ones in OW ? well rumors say given to corona delays of OW2............who knows

im pretty sure that OW 2 will not release 2021

[torpid ibex]

overwatch the movie would be sick

[proud pike]

yes, but too expensive

[torpid ibex]

ye

[proud pike]

and it would take a very long time to make it

[torpid ibex]

they have made animated shorts so they could make 20 of those up to ow2

[hasty basalt]

sadly i doubt that will happen...activision has more and more grip on them and they are on a kick people make money course

[peak escarp]

OW2 has been in development since 2017, I really don't think it will take that much longer to finish

[hasty basalt]

well they had to shift devs to homeoffice etc....i wont say not possible but i doubt it

[peak escarp]

I would be very shocked if it doesn't come out this year

[rain star]

lol imean its either coming out in 2021 or 3030

[hasty basalt]

but 3030 is star citizen

[rain star]

what?

[hasty basalt]

[iron plume]

this is getting off topic but lmao

[wheat orbit]

It would be nice if they (Overwatch) could have indigenous characters in addition to Pharah have Refaluwasch, Samoan, Chamorro, and Native Hawaiian to better reflect America sense they are an American made game.

They don’t have to but it would be nice to see. The characters can be good and bad guys.

[limpid agate]

Samoa isn't anywhere near America

That being said

Its suggested Mauga is Samoan

Roadhog is also suggested to be Maori

[worthy rose]

...What is that melody...?

[last inlet]

There's American Samoa which is a different territory. But yeah, when they figure out how to make Mauga fit into the game, we'd find out where he's from for sure

[hasty basalt]

i think before thats happening they do countrys we dont have at all right now

[wheat orbit]

I don't know who Mauga is. @limpid agate

[limpid agate]

Read What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz

[limpid agate]

Whatever hero is related to Kanezaka will almost certainly be a third Japanese hero.

As in Japanese, not Ainu or Ryukyuan.

[hasty basalt]

is it sure theres a new hero? so far i think its only a little lore drop....or a hint for new hero in OW2

would be nice to have more in OW tho....

and i think could happen because game needs more time...

[limpid agate]

Its for OW2

Not OW1

The teaser was for Kanezaka, but it also set up a future hero

[peak escarp]

we got something similar with the Horizon teaser back in 2017

it teased the map, but also set up Hammond for later

[arctic loom]

well just played on new map and yeah is cool so different

for deathmatch

is bigger than that last one

the fox statues must mean the new hero

for sure

[worthy rose]

Kinda late to join the discussion but I agree. It would fit perfectly

if junkettown queen is the next revealed ill be a happy chap

She will be 100/100 in ow2 so I don’t think she will be the next one 😅

[limpid agate]

The next hero will be in OW2

There are no more OW1 heroes

[hasty basalt]

well as i said it could be they changed plans for the new map and another hero because they need more time for OW 2