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and how did he lose all of that?
hanzo or someone else?
hanzo
wtf
Ah yes, gotta remember the Mercy Manglers™
of course
Hanzo is his only brother, I think
He was told by the gang that Genji needed to take a leadership position and actually work
Genji didn't want to, ergo, Hanzo was told Genji needed to die
the gang being the shimada clan?
Yes
damn
basically genji didnt care about the family business
Genji was "young and crazy"
does he even have 2 robot legs i cant tell
ah
Real question y'all
If only a Shimada can control the Spirit Dragons, how can Echo do it if she transforms?
o thats good question
her duplication in the lore is not as exactly as it is interpreted in the game
also can every shimada control the dragons or are the 2 brothers special
which means she doesnt have hardlight tech shit, gravity powers, and etc
its more of imitating apperances
but we dont know much about the strength of her duplication
Okay
It was confirmed that Hanzo does not have cybernetic legs.
shimada
its some sort of technology that makes up the dragons
logical explanation for now would be hardlight
When in doubt: LiGHt dOIn' sUmtIN' wEEiIrD
Pretty much
They haven’t confirmed anything about how the dragons work yet
If I’m correct
Smh, I never said magic, I said they are Spirit Dragons.
ah right
Yeah, this guy gets me!
hi everyone i love overwatch but only know the base lore like where they live or what there origin story is could someone tell me the complete overwatch lore
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oh ok thx

Hahaha, complete Overwatch lore, like that exists
lol
But seriously, all you really need to do is binge the animations, maybe read the comics and short stories
The animations are short, so I recommend starting there, and if you want, the play Overwatch website lets you read the comics for free as they're released.
thanks ive watched the animations since i started the game in 2019 and ive played on the websites i need to read the comics and the origin stories
It was November iirc
They didn't release 4 still
You should read the bios after that
I think it is something that was put in their blood like a long time ago, so maybe there is some specific trait that ALL Shimadas can control them but maybe not as great as Hanzo and Genji.
It's probably an implant of some kind rather than blood based
Either through the tattoo or something else
i always thought it wasnt technology its like some magic that allows one to control dragons
Overwatch is all based on science that can somehow be explained
Granted, we don’t have a lot of explanations on some things 
his lower torso is intact; his genitals were never mentioned (and probably never will be)
that was the heavy implication
Chu was asked about using the toilet
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maybe its some sort of genetic mutation, or implant that was illegal/lost. im thinking not an implant or else you know soldier 76 would be popping dragonstrike every couple minutes
Just because the implant exists, doesn't mean everyone can use it/has access to it
It's the same as saying since Soldier is a superhuman why isn't everyone
It's a technology only the Shimadas had/wanted to use
When do you guys think we will get to see any cinematics for the story of overwatch in 2021?
When is Blizzcon? The online thing they're going to do
That'll probably be when we see anything
Sometime in spring, April maybe?
I thought it was going to be in like February or something or January.
what's it like to be a lore regular
it's nice having people respect your opinions and treat you as an authority
cool cool
the next cinematic will probably be at Blizzconline, since they have given us an Overwatch short at every Blizzcon since launch
plus we'll get intro/outro cutscenes with all the story missions
a cinematic would be cool on this blizzonline
another cinematic from ow 2
showing more about the plot
the game going have
more about null sector
Well, actually, maybe both
yeah, he's pretty likely
Greetings! There's something I'd like to ask regarding the lore of Overwatch and a particular character
Why is Junkrat (and Roadhog) a playable character?
I mean, I love both him and his chunky friend, both to play as and against, but why are they in the Overwatch team? Are they hired by WInston? Are they antagonists, like Reaper? I have been playing OW since near launch and I've never understood. Some help would be appreciated ^^
They're not in the OW team. The playable heroes are from many different backgrounds
they're comedic relief, for the moment
Including some villains
although Junkrat's secret may bring him into the main plotline eventually
Roadhog is just along for the ride
There's a few characters who don't necessarily get involved with the ongoing plot who are playable right now.
Though that number is decreasing with newer plot
and some who have their own unrelated subplots, like Ana and Soldier, McCree, Hanzo
sombra
My thought exactly
Well then, thank you very much!! ^^
Need some more Bastion lore
Really excited to see how he gets redesigned for Overwatch 2
Maybe a rework 😳 😳
well mostly or all characters
going get new skills
you unlock them by level up
on hero missions
Yeah, skills for the campaign mode
I wouldn't be surprised to see lots of things get reworked, but that's more gameplay than lore
I thought they had a new skin for Bastion already
im really curious about that new skills
and it was him but with a hat
yes have
yeah
torb too
Bastion has a rounder chassis and Torb's hat
Is this real???
yeah it's from Blizzcon 2019
I have never seen this
well on blizzcon they showed four
He's so fucking cute
they only showed those silhouettes to the reporter from Game Informer
That's amazing
nobody else has seen them
a image with those silhouettes
yes, that was a mockup made by the community
it uses the silhouettes of existing characters
That second one looks WoW-like
yeah
yeah
the descriptions come from here
so that yuffie is the fox one
the article has no image, so youtubers wanting to report on it made up their own image
most likely
during the Dev Update where Kanezaka was announced, Jeff said the map had some connection to a character associated with the Shimada family
one that we haven't met yet
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here's where the lineup of OW2 designs with Torb and Bastion comes from
Kanezaka should be going live this week. Probably
YOOOOOO
probably
The only redesign i dont like is torbjorn
Now he just looks like he’s part of a bike gang
finally someone agrees with me on torb's redesign
Love bastions cap tho

after 2 years of the overwatch 2 trailer i reallyhope they are almost done with it
Bastion is looking cuter than normal because he has Papa Torb's hat
i wonder if they will let us change the color of genjis lines
u mean like his voicelines being green?
huh?
They mean his lights
oh yes. there should be an easter egg that genji lets lucio hook up his lights to his music
despite "that is not what they are for"
And you use the Lucio OWL emote to do a rave
You have line dancing mccree's and ashe's
frik yeah
The emote or the in-game ability?
ingame ability
idk how emote would change colors
because it would look cool. it would take devs like 5 minutes to code, so i think worth it
that would make it harder to recognize
Changing ability colors wouldn’t be a good thing since colors typically represent an abilities function (yellow - healing, purple - debuff, etc)
If they didn’t follow that, I’m sure many skins would have color changing effects like Symmetra’s challenge skin
nng ok
If it stays consistent for the enemy team, it shouldn't be an issue
It needs to be consistent for yours as well
Heyo! Idk if I'm in the correct chanel, but I need help identifying a song in blizzard world
I've got no idea, it's in the Inn in the spawn of the attacking team
next to the fire
And I also cant identify where the sound os coming from
I suppose it's coming from the hearthstone symbol
Or the speakers
Yeah more likely the speakers
Festive blizzard world
not in the normal one
Ill take a listen later, unless you have a video of it now?
Sadly I don't but if you go to the attacking spawn, you can hear it next to the fireplace or the bar
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does anybody here know how mcree lost his arm? got into the lore recently and cant find it anywhere
oh nvm found it
I don't know what you found, but its not correct
We don't know how McCree lost his arm
@rancid charm
ive checked reddit and different discussion websites and they do have slightly different stories
but they've all said something to do with a laser cutter
well, they are wrong
Sounds like you are reading fanfiction.
We don't know how it happened
All we know is Bob didn't do it, and a 7 year time span of when it could have happened
And most heroes that speak about it don't seem to know
We don't know the answer and likely won't know for a long time
Excuse me for bringing back a previous subject, but did we find anything in regards to this song?
Quick question, do we know the new look of every hero?
nope, just a few
Hmm, since it’s for the winter theme specifically, there’s a chance it could be original rather than from Hearthstone or WoW
guys when is the fat guy playing hearthstone coming to overwatch
he was teased like 6 years ago when is he coming
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whats a shitpost
When you talk about stuff unrelated to the lore and being off topic
hey
remember when everyone thought D.va was famous for being a pro Starcraft 2 player
eh Yes?
Actually she was. But then the story was changed
As far as I remember she even had a profile on an esports website
really thats so cool
Yeah they retconned it
My best guess for why is that she joined HotS, and that would probably raise some questions if she was fighting with StarCraft characters and being a StarCraft pro
tbh HotS is a big question at all
whats HotS
Heroes of the Storm, a MOBA (think of League of Legends) made up of Blizzard characters
wait isnt heros of the storm also the name of an anniversary(or archives i forget) event?
You’re thinking of Storm Rising
That was an Archives event that introduced us to Havana and the presumed Null Sector leader
oh yes. i guess i am, if it was a havvana intro do we get to play it next archives? cuz i frikin liked it
Yes, they’ve always had past Archive missions available during the event
ok. welp im getting off topic so ima leave before someone types !!shitposting
I thought mercy was in her 60s
But looked young
Because of her tech
I looked it up; you're right
They swapped D.Va's backstory because it made more sense to be scouted from a mech fps than Starcraft for the Meka program
Real question is, why would Starcraft still be relevant in the 2070s
That's like being scouted to be a pro tennis player because you play Pong
You're right. My mom used to play that back in, like, 2010?
the only heroes who fought in the omnic crisis are Soldier, Reaper, Ana, Torbjorn and Reinhardt
the rest are either too young or were non-combatants
(the only other heroes old enough are Roadhog and Moira, who would have been 18 when it started)
starcraft will always be relevant
(and Sigma, who would have been 32, but he was a professor/scientist)
some of those images aren't accurate
bruh what
they were made before the team had a real idea for the lore
particularly this one
this image doesn't make sense
because Tracer joined when Ana was already grey
this image was just supposed to represent the idea of heroes
well
he was a hero at one point
before he went dark side
Reyes was the leader of Overwatch during the crisis
There’s a lot of age inconsistencies in the game :/
such as?
that was a joke by one of the devs that some people took seriously
if roadhog transformed junkertown into what it is by blowing up an omnium, does that mean he participated in the omnicrisis?
(rip junkertown)
that happened after the crisis
o
After the Omnic Crisis, government officials gifted the Australian omnium and the surrounding area to the omnics that had nearly destroyed their country, hoping to establish a long-term peace accord.
Furious over the loss of their homes, Mako and others turned to violent rebellion. They formed the Australian Liberation Front and struck against the omnium and its robot population to take back the lands that had been stolen. Events continued to escalate until the rebels sabotaged the omnium's fusion core, resulting in an explosion that destroyed the facility, irradiated the region, and littered the Outback with twisted metal and wreckage for kilometers around.
any age inconsistencies that exist are due to community misconceptions
anyone here know the whole winston origin story? just his time on horizon to how he arrived in earth? im really interested but i can only gather bits
im also betting the proffessor who took care of winston is deceased
Winston was one of the simian specimens on Horizon
the apes eventually revolted, killing all the scientists
Winston liked the scientists, so he didn't participate - instead, he outfitted a lander pod with rockets and left the lunar base (unknowingly bringing Hammond along with him)
after landing on Earth, Overwatch found him and brought him on as a scientist
(we don't have much detail on when or how that happened)
that's pretty much it
wow thank you
am i correct in assuming the apes still on the colony were never mentioned or seen again?
got it
It would be cool if in Overwatch 2 in the story part of the game we could play a level of when the monekys took over Horizon
That could maybe be a cutscene, but it’s unlikely it’d be a mission :/
Unless the new OW for some reason goes there
why would they want to go there?
so what i want to know is you just can choose one skill you cant try
the other one
unless you reset
your level?
thats how going work
?
We don’t quite know how the talent system will work
My guess is you pick your talents at the start of the mission
in the demo you picked the talents at the start each time
so they're not permanently chosen
you can try a different talent build each time
I wonder if they’ll add more talents per tier
Genji be like I NEED HEALING!I NEED HEALING!I NEED HEALING!I NEED HEALING!I NEED HEALING!
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Is there a confirmed release date for Ow2 yet?
yeah im really hope not be november
im would be ok with a beta
to play until november comes
but if really comes november well... i had no choice then just wait

November sounds too late
they wouldn't leave the game without new content for another 10 months
yeah
that makes no sense to me
im remember jeff said
echo would be the last character
on ow 1
a event just with new cosmetics... is not really... a new content
it's more of the same
people want something new than the old events
yes pog
idk maybe they could reowrk bastion for no reason
There probably will be at least one hero rework with OW2
the devs said they want to avoid reworking heroes
reworking heroes just kills a new hero concept
Not really
There are two heroes that need reworks
Bastion and Brig
And that won't be happening anytime soon or at all
Why?
Bastion's design is simply bad because stationary heroes just don't work at all in OW. Brig's kit is just a complete mess to balance
apparently the devs think nerfing the hell out of her will fix the problem
Widow the same, no?
ffs you can't even JUMP while scoped in
so... you're a bastion with one shot instead 100
better for #overwatch
We all get carried away sometimes lol
Can i get some on info and baptise and mercy workinh to
We don’t have much details on that sadly :/
We just know Baptiste went to look for Mercy after “What You Left Behind”
Brigitte was just blizzard cracking under the dive meta, but yeah, melee is something that doesnt integrate that well in fps games
But bastion’s ok, he’s supposed to be an obstacle
In his short story, it was mentioned that he worked with her before. Not personally, just at the same place where she was working, and recognized her
It was in Venezuela
That was i thinking about
And it would have been in the past 3 years, post-Talon
I personally just hate bastion bc he took up the niche of minigun hero, when they coulda just made a typical minigun holding human/omnic instead of a turret
@finite urchin #overwatch
Was she ever in talon beacause he was
No
This was after he left Talon
If you haven't yet, read What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
You could hold your finger on the text you typed and it will give you an option to edit it.
Mondatta? It was an order from Talon to assassinate him, right?
No, as far as I can remember, she just decided to?
we don't know if someone ordered her to or not, but Talon ordering the hit makes sense
they want to drive a wedge between humans and omnics and start another war
she technically missed tracer and hit him
she was aiming for Mondatta though
in the beggining but when she actually killed him she she was trying to shoot tracer
does it matter? the result is the same
She is the best sniper in the world, and had arranged the prefect shot for a win-win
Either she kills Tracer or she kills Mondatta, either winning outcome with the same trigger of her rifle
Technically... if Tracer not blinked, then Mondatta would have died anyway, because ballistics
Depends how strong the chronal accelerator is
Because ballistics, Mondatta would have survived
The bullet would have penetrated Tracer, but it would also be marginally off course
can anyone tell me why widowmakers skin is blue, i know she looked normal while she was married, but idk how her color had somehow changed to blue?
Because of the experiments, she has a slow blood circulation
She's literally breathing slower
experiments? from Talon right?
aha
The order to kill mondotta came from talon, they picked her up
well we don't know that for sure it's more than likely but there's no way to be 100% sure unless there's something cannon saying that
Imagine Bastion's turret form with the ability to walk. Do you understand how VERY overpowered that is?
yes, but still a wrong channel
Apologies
Anywho, since, as RafSai has pointed out, this is a lore channel; I'll ask a lore question. Does anyone know what is up with Roadhog? In the comic where he meets Junkrat(I'm bad at remembering names, forgive me) he seems to be normal-ish. However, in the game, he says some deeply disturbing things, and laughs after killing people. Is that the radiation poisoning? And on that not, does anyone know what he did/who he was before he was part of the militia?
RoadHog is okay. The only thing happened to him is radiation exposure
Do you know what Junkrat was before the omnium exploded?
scientist or engineer, i guess
But in general, he was a Junker until he completely lost his mind
Thanks
im not sure of junkrats age, but i thought he was born post-explosion.
speaking of, what do we know about junkrats parents?
His parents most likely died, but we know nothing
And, no. He wasn't born post-explosion
ok. i dont think hog is rats dad, but PLOT TWIST what if he is
😢
Junkrat sees him as a friend, sadly not the other way around lol
Well, RH sees him as an ally, not a friend. Although.... They kind of hung out pretty well on their tour.
So... 50/50 I think
so exploding crap together for years and roadhog still doesnt see him as a friend
dam
XD
I feel like Junkrat and I would be great friends
Like, I can vibe with him. Explosives? Check. Weird/dark sense of humor? Check. Not the cool kids? Check.
We don't know how long they've been working together
Wasted Land shows when they met, and they have their current appearances so it can't be that long ago
new to the lore here: how does junkrat and roadhog tie in to any other hero's story besides wrecking ball? I literally cant think of any character that interacts with the 2 of them in canon
they don't really
they're sorta just comic relief at the moment
Junkrat does have a secret and that might bring him into the main plotline
interesting
i thought for sure they would have encountered at least one hero during their worldwide crime spree
there's some hints that McCree might have been tracking them in Dorado/Castillo
lol it would be cool if sombra met up with junk and roadhog
lol hack the yellow heels
A fair handful of the characters aren’t related to the “main” plot/characters
At least, not yet
lol
i can see finding out they actually blew up one of zennys friends, like mondotta in the comic.
yeah
I think they'll be important in OW2 because of whatever treasure Junkrat found.
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So, the treasure Junkrat found, is that the payload that you escort on the Junkertown map?
No
Okay
That's just random loot he and Roadhog stole from around the world
Mhm
Watch The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Nestled in the remains of the Australian omnium, Junkertown was once “home sweet home” to everyone’s favorite criminal masterminds, Junkrat and Roadhog. Sinc...
We don't know what the treasure is. It was something he discovered scavenging the ruins of the omnium (which Junkertown was built from)
it's probably not even something tangible
no? bastion just has way too much firepower for a single person and that's a problem in itself. It has like 525 dps, and maybe if we gave a mobile but incredibly slow character like 350 dps it would solve this elo problem. maybe also include a spinup warning mechanic. Legit the same thing as the heavy assault.
So basically, you want Bastion to be Heavy from tf2?
I do agree though, he does need a rev mechanic
Or a slower fire rate when he first opens fire
Are there more animations like this? I thought I'd seen all Overwatch animations
@finite urchin If you are going to keep derailling this channel to talk about Bastion's gameplay, you will be disposed of
Consider this your final warning
@silver oriole Yes, 1 second
!!loreShorts
Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
The Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
Zero Hour: https://bit.ly/2JGfNBP
Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE
Echo: https://bit.ly/2IYIwRq
Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2EI9RCZ
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2VOkcXh
Sweet, thanks!
i just realized the noise right before they get tossed out of the doors of junkertown at the beggining hes ulting
what ever the treasure is, im pretty sure its not gold or jewelry or anything youd expect
i mean they stole tons of that stuff on the tour
He came to notoriety when he discovered an extremely valuable secret in the bones of the omnium. Though few knew the nature of what he found, he was nonetheless pursued by bounty hunters, gangs, and opportunists wherever he went, until he made a deal with the Junker enforcer Roadhog, who grudgingly agreed to be his personal bodyguard in exchange for a fifty-fifty share of the spoils.
people just assume it's treasure, since that's what they value
true
but it's more likely information, probably to do with why the omniums woke back up or how omnics gained sapience
(which Jamieson could sell for a lot of money to the right buyer)
ok
this secret could be a big deal, since the cause of the Omnic Crisis is unknown in-universe
Its the second one
i wish it was just cause they were mad they couldn't eat stuf
like
they would never taste a pbj sandwich
or
soup
🙂
Its not
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its a theory
idk man ppl just keep replying to me
And where does it say you need to reply back? If you want to replay back, do so in the appropriate channel
Which is not this one
The comics aren't much to read in a day
There isn't that much
I say on the OW website that Lucio's synaesthesia auditiva album is real
So
Now I'm grooven
lol
is it good
the Lucio tracks are okay
if OW's OST is just the songs that play when a map is picked then eh
they’re expanded versions of those
some are pretty cool but overall you’re not missing much
I want a track for Reaper
Oh that sucks.A Reaper soundtrack would be awesome but I suppose I can do without it
What purpose would would a Reaper soundtrack serve?
Lucio has one because he's a musician.
I mean soundtracks have no purpose in the story but its still cool
Lucio's soundtrack is meant to be an in universe thing.
What about sigma
And i think soundtracks for individuals wouldnt have much of a purpose either no offense tho
I mean, where are they gonna use it in the game?
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You gotta have regular lol
Oh ok
lore regular also works
K
but I've already modmailed it
Moving swiftly onwards
anyway, I could see a place for hero themes
for example if they do end up filling the gaps on origin stories
Right, they may use the themes for their origins
but it's still unlikely
This isn't a fighting game. Characters generally don't have leitmotifs
Lucio does because he's a musician
Right
but in the dreamworld I can imagine an Avengers style musical sting
like if Echo has a theme
and its motif plays when she shows up for a big fight
Before, i was just saying the trakcs were bland in general: listen to the closing theme for bf1 verdun for instance
They make new musical pieces for the title screen when they add a new hero.
oh also
Lucio is not the only one
Sigma most definitely has a recurring theme
but again that's because The Melody is his Thing
so kinda same boat as lucio
Dreamworld wishes aside, I could see them eventually releasing an album with hero themes, even if they don't show up in game
I mean they've made a cookbook
Yes, and Sigma
Characters having unique musical themes does generally sound like a really good idea.
Forgot about his melody
Y’know when that tracer comic event came out, I thought the menu music was tracer’s new theme, but later found out it was used in the museum cinematic. But i still think that theme fits her quite well
Winsoton is spin user jojos???
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@late vigil @tired jewel
Sorry
So is zenyatta just a chill robot dude
does he have a back story or something
or is he like the pope but for Nepal?
Or is he just the pope
I will choose to believe that he is the pope monk of Nepal
If blizz is leaving it up to imagination lol
no hes literally just another member of the shambali
Oh dang
But if he were the leader of the shambali then he'd basically be the pope
He is not
my favorite lore is hades x persophone
uh overwatch
ok
what if zenyatta lore could be when zenyatta used to be human monk until when omnic crisis occured he was badly injured but his brain was still active so they got an old omnic bot and transferred his conscience into the old omnic then he woke up in that body he wasnt used it yet until he learned harmony and peace and he got used to his body he meditated so long that he achieved transcendance and became one with his body he taught everyone the are of meditation and so as life followed he met genji
no thats what im thinking zenyatta lore could be coz their was a skin leaked that zen would have a human skin
that was fake
ik im just saying transferring consiences into minds wont make u a cyborg
that's also not possible
well im just saying if it happens then its ok
im still putting the lore together coz the lore of ow now looks crappy
you don't get to write the lore
do u think im a noob i watched every overwatch lore evn the entire story
then you would know that Zenyatta isn't a human in a robot body
ik im just thinking what if
im not saying thats the lore im saying what if dats his lore
well it's not
k boi dont get to angry

that’s literally what happened in apex legends lore
What even is the OW lore anymore?
do you know the lore at all or are you just saying that
I interpret the OW lore as a bunch of puzzle pieces laid out on a table slowly being put together
which is true
I think I’ve lost track of the lore. Like are the tracer comics important?
london calling talks about the events before and after of the short: "alive"
surely its important since they brought it up, and theres 2 more issues on the way
The next issue is running quite late
Most likely going to release next Wednesday
Then again, I said that last week, and nothing happened
theres a short story he shares with symettra its kinda new
If half the pieces didn’t exist yet
they're important to Tracer's character, and give us a view into what life is like for omnics in London
Zenyatta left the Shambali too
overwatch totally copied valorant
overwatch has been around much longer than valorant
valorant was created 5 years after overwatch
it was probably the other way around
yes lul
Valorant copied Overwatch.They made a garbage ripoff version of Reaper named Omen
what does this have to do with lore?
Talking to me?I'm just replying to someone
Well my idiotic friend does.Although yeah sorry this is off topic
Anyone know when is the 4th issue of London calling coming?
idk
I'm just disappointed that they said "monthly" and failed to deliver
im dissapointed they counldnt fix goats without forcing 222 but whatever
222 helps with minimizing chaos due to random teammates but that's for #overwatch
Maybe they'll release 4 and 5 at the same time
@fringe blade What?
The london calling
so why didnt mccree joined again deadlock after overwatch got disbanded
he had a reason?
or changed him side to good after the time he passed with overwatch?
because he betrayed them - I doubt they'd want him back
and he wanted to make up for the things he did in Blackwatch
not go back to being a criminal
why would he want to make up for what he did in blackwatch
he just wanted to make up for the wrong he did in deadlock, right?
idk
because they did bad things in Blackwatch
assassination, kidnapping, espionage, etc.
but wasn't it for the greater good
far worse than what he did in Deadlock
ok
maybe, but that doesn't make him feel any better
ok
he doesn't think Overwatch needs him
he felt bad about what repaer did
on that mission on archives
killing that man
antonio right?
among other things, yes
most of it is reyes fault
I'm sure McCree was responsible for his own share
we've only seen one Blackwatch mission, and they were active for about 15 years
Genji had to find a mentor to clear his conscience
McCree is doing that by being a vigilante
yeah genji used to not speak so much
and it was mccree
who recruit moira?
right?
moira was hired to help reyes' condition but she took it too far and gave him wraith powers

So no, it was not McCree
genji merely became more and more disgusted about his robot body
he wasn't seeking the same as mccree
Genji's issues are probably not related to what he did with Blackwatch
is said when genji lost your full body?
he still has some of his body
his torso, thighs, head and one arm are still flesh
While voice lines aren't actual cannon genji does say (paraphrasing) "I think you made the right choice" to Reyes in the blackwatch event when mccree and reyes were arguing. And in mccree's flashback of the event genji doesn't seem mad about his choice like mccree (unrelated but his reaction is quite funny where he looks confused as he unsheathes his sword in a "guess I fight now?" way)
Genji is used to doing shady things, he's from a crime family
Yea so I agree Genji's need for Zen was probably about his new body than anything he did in Blackwatch
yeah
Genji got pretty hurt in the fight against Doomfist, that might have been what prompted him to leave Overwatch
@charred panther I think she lost it in her fight with widow. She hesitated when she saw that Widow was actually Gerard's wife, but Widow shot her
!!shitposting @icy plover
@icy plover Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
do you think genji is lgbtq?
And hasn't shown interest in anyone else
Well, he was enjoying a playboy lifestyle until Hanzo injured him.
Playboy doesnt say anything about sexuality
True, just based it off what the wiki entry for "Playboy lifestyle," there's really nothing solid other than that.
??? until proven otherwise, ig
Yeah Genji pretty clearly has a thing for Mercy. Which doesn't rule him out of being attracted to other people too, but that's clearly who he has his eye on.
Interestingly, Mercy's own interactions/voicelines/etc with him seem a lot less clear as to whether she sees him as "just a friend" or something more.
And are fairly open to interpretation either way.
they seem pretty conclusive to me
Genji: Thanks for helping me out earlier, Angela.
Mercy: I do seem to be making a habit of saving you. It's a good thing I like you. Buy me dinner when this is over.
Genji: It would be my pleasure.
and that letter writing
Don't forget the chocolates!
i just realized sojourn looks a lot like a talon agent
also she has something going on about doomfist
Both of them are highly cyberized
Doomfist's family runs a prosthetics company, which he has thoroughly used to upgrade himself
And Sojourn has gone as far as having cybernetic brain implants.
maybe it's because of her red color scheme

My guy got friendzoned? Damn
Lmao even a fricking cyborg can get friendzoned
hello
Genji was not friendzoned.
well his genitals were probably wrecked so it makes sense
TRUE
Nope
Michael Chu said that his khem is okay
Hi
so my homie got everything wrecked except the peen
that's not what he said
?
Michael Chu only said his lower body was intact
Nevertheless, it was an answer to the question about genitals. Just veiled, lol.
I'm not vulgar, but its true
I don't understand your correction, the essence of the question is still the same.
asking if Genji can still use the toilet sounds more like a question about his guts/plumbing than about his dick

since the article doesn't exist anymore I can't look up the exact wording
I have only Russian translation, but I know that he used ''lower body'' with ''
so?
my point is that Chu didn't say "Genji still has his dick"
he gave a vague answer that people have interpreted how they choose to
and of course he still has it, why wouldn't he? it's not like Hanzo chopped him into pieces
That's what I was talking about
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm really just tired of people bringing it up and saying "confirmed" when it wasn't
but it was
no, confirmed means it was said outright, with no room for interpretation or debate
implied is when something is said indirectly
I'm not going to argue with you because it won't change our minds anyway, lol.
Words have synonyms. Everyone understands this differently.
Did you really have a conversation whether Genji had a penis or not
Uh apparently yes
But anyways Im pretty he still has his uh sausage.No reason to assume Hanzo just chopped it off
whether it was completely confirmed or not
^
I doubt Blizzard would let such a disturbing detail be canon
it will probably never be confirmed be cause it's irrelevant to the story
how did hanzo even kill genji anyway
i imagine it was a duel between their dragons
we don't really know, but based on the damage seen on Hanamura, it was probably a sword fight
It was a sword fight. Hanzo abandoned the sword following it.
Hanamura and Blackwatch Genji imply that he nearly chopped him in half
is confirmed mercy saved him?
yes
i have the higher ground, genji!
HotS, although non-canon, actually makes that joke when poking Genji (“I should have listened to Hanzo when he said he had the high ground.”)
No way really
non canon so really
damn poggers
mercy saved genji bc he had a nice but
!!shitposting @wanton spindle
@wanton spindle Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
huh
what is it ?
a correspondence, related with hanamura/kanezaka
oh ok
More specifically
Its related to the bladesmith on Kanezaka
You and I know well enough, we two who make and wield the sword
The bladesmith's wife fights with the sword.
A rival clan 
I’m going to be thinking about this the rest of the day 
I’m thinking that this kitsune hero will be revealed at BlizzConline
Although that may be an easy guess
kitsune = fox
Yes
specifically the nine tails fox
I, who trained the scions of Sojiro Shimada, forced to turn my swordmaster’s blade against my own.
Yes
Scratch that, the author trained Genji and Hanzo
She was also the swordmaster of the Shimada clan
It’s nice that the Shimadas were a respectful criminal empire
This particular post is just a Kanezaka lore teaser
But the hero it is teasing is either Asa or her daughter.
We will find out for sure next month
She isnt a shimada
She is a part of this new clan that seems to settle in kanezaka
(a yagami, she holds the death note)
And she taught the shimadas how to use the sword or something right
yes
k just making sure i got that part right
I wonder if we’ll be getting more teasers 
basically gengo and hanjo master
i am hoping we do
Theres supposed to be a new animation next month for blizzconline so im wondering if that will have anything to do with it
It’ll probably focus on a new hero
i doubt it will since the shimadas already have an animation but its worth hoping for
thats what im thinking
like echo build up or sojourn maybe
most likely sojourn
I could see it maybe being around Sojourn rejoining Overwatch (unless they want to show that in the campaign)
Im thinking its gonna be sojourn content but it would also be cool to see them pull some crazy shit our of their ass and make it about bap/mauga or this new asu character
Animating What You Left Behind, although not new, would be great to see 
Dwayne Johnson voices mauga or something
that i would love to see
And her husband is a sword smith
Im wondeing if we'll get any crime dad shimada content with this
i doubt it but its still something to hope for
I know but still
it would be something interesting to go about
The letter is about the rival clan, the Hashimoto, that are ruling the area and have her husband under their control
And by extention, her
thats why they supporting the Shimadas
I was jokeing but ok
The Shimadas aren't really a thing to support anymore
Which is why the Hashimoto have so much control
May i make some batshit crazy theory here? It says the Shimada clan gave to Kanezaka and hashimoto took it away. so what if the shimada clan wasnt as bad as we initally made it out to be. But that would also raise the question, why force hanzo to kill his own brother if they seem to be this goodish clan. i get that genji didnt want to join hanzo's side in ruling the clan, but why not let him go about his merry way. again, this is assuming the Shimada clan isnt a bringer of evil adn actually did some good
and again, this is just some crazy theory that makes little sense as of right now but throwing the idea out thre
They're "goodish" in the sense that they have the code of honor and support their community
That doesn't prevent them from "taking care" of their own that go against their rules
plus, there was a very short period of time between Sojiro's death and the clan's dismantling
So Sojiro might well have been the last 'honorable' ruler of the clan, and the new masters who ordered Genji's kill weren't much better than the Hashimotos
"Better than the Hashimotos" isn't exactly a high bar in the first place
that makes a lot of sense. i also now wonder, now that you mention that, if the Hashimotos and teh new Shimada masters had any realtion before the clan fell
i doubt that they would, since they are rival clans, but just another thought
Mercy and roadhog are married. It's cannon.
it is not
@wispy bear Dear God no its not canon and we should be thankful that such a ludcrious ship is not Canon
this isn't the place for jokes
How would that ship even work?How would his uh sausage even fit?So yeah never going to happen
it doesnt
don't be vulgar
I don't understand why people think this is the place to shitpost
Like, out of all the channels
why this one
In any case i wonder if the Hashimoto are big or equal to the Shimadas or if they were whiped. If not they could introduce a new faction to OW
Hashimoto seem like another crime family, one with interests all over Japan
yep, the only thing i dont know is if they were crushed by the rising Shimadas or they just their rival with around the same power and stuff
the Hashimoto are still around
