#lore-discussion | Overwatch | Page 582

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I mean, they are a terrorist organisation

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Its feels like a given lol

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Hm

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Do you think reaper could've been working as a double agent for talon and blackwatch with moria??

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:05 AM

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no

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:06 AM

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But the whole killing of that one dude in retribution

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:06 AM

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it wasn't premeditated

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they went in to kidnap him

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Mcree was the only one super upset

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

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and why would killing a Talon leader mean he is a Talon double agent?

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Because the infighting

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

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McCree was upset because it was very out of character for Reyes

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and because Reyes told him they were just going to kidnap him

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

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And also, just cause someone isn't visibly upset doesn't mean they actually arent

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Genji didn't really know what was going on

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Moria dosent necessarily care much bout anything

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

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It just means that Reyes kept his cool better than McCree, that's all

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I mean, after the killing

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Moira wasn't bothered - she was more curious to see the results of her work on Reyes

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Also I know blackwatch operatives were limited but sending a scienceist in?

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:11 AM

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she was monitoring Reyes

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and was the team medic

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 7:11 AM

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^

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Oh yeah teams need those

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Just strange

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Because if moria was a double agent then

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To me reaper being one dosen't seem that far fetched

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I don't follow

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McCree wasn't a double agent, so Reyes not being one isnt that far fetched

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Well do you think reaper could've climbed to counsel so fast with already having a history of killing talon leaders if that talon leader wasn't already needed to he killed

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:17 AM

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he was able to get on the council because Doomfist and Moira knows who he is

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probably

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:18 AM

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And moria saw reaper kill a big talon operative

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And she has little reaction or concern

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And she's in counsel

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:19 AM

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why would she be concerned?

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she didn't care about Antonio

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:20 AM

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If tracer walked in and killed doomfist I feel like she'd have some concern

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:20 AM

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what

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Moira doesn't care about other people, she just cares about science

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Antino I'm sure was still a valuable asset bringing in funding

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Unless antonio was bothering her research I feel like she wouldn't be happy about her funding being shot in the face

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Antonio didn't fund her, Talon did

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there's other Talon leaders

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:23 AM

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He funded talon

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Like Doc said, that's not her problem

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She was getting money from Talon, not from him

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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But talon got money from him

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Maximilien was the money guy

last inlet Dec 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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He wasn't paying her directly

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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I'm sure antiono still brought in some money

last inlet Dec 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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He was paying Talon, who then paid everyone who works for them, including Moira

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He can't have been the only one giving them money

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Well yeah max was the main source of money

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Antonio was just a smuggler

last inlet Dec 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

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I'm always a bit unsure of how long Moira's been in Talon. During her whole stint in Overwatch/Blackwatch, just during BW, or what

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

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it's unclear

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some people suspect she was already on their payroll when Reyes recruited her

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

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I'm assuming however long talon has had wraith tech is how long she's been in

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

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others think she didn't join Talon until after Overwatch kicked her out

covert echo Dec 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

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probably right?

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

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When was widow "recruited"

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:29 AM

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some time between Retribution and Uprising

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so between 8 and 7 years ago

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Hm

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Why didn't widow get wraith tech

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Other talon snipers did

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:30 AM

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maybe because they needed her to appear "normal"

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or maybe it didn't work on everyone

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Yeah

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Maybe with the slowed heart it wouldn't work

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What tech does the talom assassins have

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:33 AM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/21704590/

Overwatch

[ARCHIVE] VENICE MEMORANDUM DECLASSIFICATION

More details have been uncovered from the Venice mission.

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📎 7AAJWFVBBD7Y1524505818466.png

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I wonder if some talon abilities are similar to overwatch members is because info was given to talon

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:40 AM

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well the "genetic enhancement" listed for several of them does point to Moira, but it could be by someone else (someone unknown)

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:40 AM

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But take assassin

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Abilities similar to genji

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And the heavy

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With abilities similar to rein

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I think genji even has a note about the assassin after killing one

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Assassin has abilities that Genji had in pre-beta of game development

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but the team decided they weren't fun to play against

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Yeah but still wall climbing isn't seen a whole lot

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:43 AM

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other abilities are because the dev team had to repurpose parts of hero kits to build them

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there isn't a lore reason for them to be similar

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I suppose

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I wonder what they will do with malgma though

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Two charge abilities that are that similar would be werid

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I think he should get the swipe that the Heavy has

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the charge would be redundant with Rein

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Yeah

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What I'm imagining he'd be like seems neat

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I'm hoping his guns overheat

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Like the heavy

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Making him venerable if not managed correctly

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:47 AM

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vulnerable

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venerable means old

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Sorry

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Its like 2 where I'm at

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Lore talking is just great

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:48 AM

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yeah

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Oh yeah did we ever figure out which that person at the end of storm rising is

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That df is talking to

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:49 AM

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not yet

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he's likely a leader of Null sector (or the leader)

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and will be important in OW2

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Yeah

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So Baptist and malgma used to be on a team right

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:50 AM

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yes

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Baptist was a trooper and malgma a heavy

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Baptiste and Mauga were on a team, and Nguyen was their handler

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:51 AM

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What about like the rest of there team

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Like the assassin or enforcer

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:52 AM

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several members of Baptiste's former squad went after him

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Neat

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:53 AM

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https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/22905586/

Overwatch

SUBJECT: CUERVA STRIKE TEAM - LOG RECOVERED

New information has surfaced about Captain Cuerva’s missing strike team. My agents have recovered Cuerva’s personal log. The last entry is dated 27 August, at 0430 hours, from Ti Ôtel Lanbi in Port-de-Paix. Transcript below.

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Captain Cuerva, Pacanowsky, Doubleday and Mazzei

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Oh

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Do we know there roles?

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:56 AM

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nope

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probably just generic grunts, not specialized

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and Baptiste was a medic

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Baptist is quite slippery though

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It seems even sombra has sone issue getting ahold of him

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:57 AM

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escaping Talon isn't easy

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Well yeah

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I wonder his role in ow2

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If we'll neet up with him

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 8:00 AM

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probably

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I wonder who's the best shot in ow

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I auto assume mcree

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 8:01 AM

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probably Ana

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although it depends on the weapon

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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But that files shows Baptist to be a pretty good shot and d.va has good aim too

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Idk mcree seemed to easily hit like three grenades mid air

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 9:19 AM

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It depends on what the weapon is

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Ana is undeniably the best with a sniper in OW

worthy rose Dec 25, 2020, 9:32 AM

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I’d say widow is better tho

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Given how she shot her eye

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 9:33 AM

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She did because Ana hesitated

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I mean, currently, Widow is probably the better sniper

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 9:34 AM

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but Widow is better now

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 9:34 AM

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In her prime, it can be argued for both

worthy rose Dec 25, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Well technically she’s still better now

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But they could have same accuracy and stuff

fringe blade Dec 25, 2020, 10:32 AM

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I don't think Ana's better now

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Without her eye, with her age, and with all of Widow's modifications + training, it doesnt seem very just

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Who has the worst accuracy

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I'm thinking tracer

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Not necessarily her fault

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But her weapons are just inaccurate

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Maybe sombra though we've seen her miss quite a bit

cosmic crest Dec 25, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Not really lore relevant.

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Sombra and Tracer are both shooting with one hand

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In Sombra's case, it's speculated she may be left handed

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It would probably be someone untrained in the use of firearms, inexperienced, and young

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Like Brigitte or Mei.

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Well mei seemed to be pretty handy with that gun when trying to repair the tower

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And I suppose it could be brig but she uses a mace

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But she's trained by rein

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Raised by torb

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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That wasn't exactly a precision job

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Trained by Rein
Rein doesn't use firearms or any projectile based weapons

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

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They were featured in a lineup of PvE enemies. Everything in that picture was a PvE enemy

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That was the whole context of the image

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

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limpid agate > Trained by Rein Rein doesn't use firearms or any projectile based weapons

Fire strike is cannon

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Ok. And

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Projectile much

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Rein doesn't use firearms or any projectile based weapons

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Fire strike is a projectile the hammer makes fire strike happen

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It's a projectile based weapon

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Rein isnt just a fire bender and makes fire out of no where

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

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There is a difference between a projectile based weapon, and just throwing a projectile while using a weapon

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A big stick is not a projectile based weapon. If I use it to hit a golf ball into someone's throat, its still not a projectile based weapon.

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Well not just rein does it his whole squad uses it implying they were trained to

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It's a feature of the hammer

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A hammer isn't projectile based but a hammer where the handle is a gun is

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

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And the handle isn't a gun

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

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No the whole hammer is used to launch an attack

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

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And the whole stick is used to launch the golf ball

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:33 PM

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But I can use that stick to hit anything i cant make a stuck launch a fire strike

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The hammer is simingly designed to do this

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So that it can be used for more than close range

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Replace Stick with Golf CLub

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A Golf Club is designed to hit a Golf Ball

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A Golf Club is not a projectile based weapon

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Yes but the golf club dosent make the ball

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:35 PM

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A hammer doesn't make the debris that fills a fire strike

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:35 PM

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It creates the fire strike

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Know what

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@peak escarp

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:35 PM

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They're probably not gonna reply, its 6AM

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On Christmas

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I trust docs opion on the subject more than yours

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 2:36 PM

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RyobiDunno

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Just wait a few hours, and you'll probably hear the same thing.

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Your just slow

keen peak Dec 25, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Ok “fightingfox1204”

cosmic crest Dec 25, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I think it goes without saying that a hammer is not a projectile weapon.

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 3:08 PM

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not unless you throw it

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Or if the hammer projects fire

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 3:13 PM

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If adding a bayonet to a rifle makes it a melee weapon, having a ranged attack on any weapon should classify as a projectile weapon

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But that doesn't change the fact his aim is probably lousy compared to most other heroes

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And Brig's

unreal tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Whip shot takes considerable hand eye coordination, but it doesn’t translate 1-1 into firearm aim

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Ew

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I just imagined rein

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But with a gun

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Its like a cursed image

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@fathom tartan what

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Would reins hammer technically count as a projectile weapons because of fire strike

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:26 PM

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no

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I'll just remove my flame thrower hammer gun off the shelve of projectile weapons

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:32 PM

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it's a hammer

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hammers are melee weapons

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Hammers that launch out projectiles are projectile weapons

cosmic crest Dec 25, 2020, 3:35 PM

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That's not a thing.

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Outside of OW

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I sure theres some sort of nail gun hammer combo somewhere

cosmic crest Dec 25, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Why would there be.

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:36 PM

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why does it matter?

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Because via likes to argue off the main topic

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:37 PM

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what

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:38 PM

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We were debating on who has the worst accuracy after who has the best accuracy

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:39 PM

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probably Mei

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since she's inexperienced

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:39 PM

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She seemed to be handy fixing that tower though

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:39 PM

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but compared to trained soldiers

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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We haven't seen too much of lucio

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He isnt trained is he

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But then again he plays sports

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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he seems to be pretty good with his sonic amplifier

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Maybe sigma

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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we've seen Lucio stand his own against Doomfist, so it's a safe bet he's at least competent

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either that or the amplifier doesn't need all that much accuracy, which is also an option

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Woah

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When did lucio face off against doom fist

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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The ending of Hero of Numbani

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Dang

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Pretty impressive for a lil sonic gun

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I think sigma may have the worst aim

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Insanity isnt good on hand eye coordination

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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that's
not really how insanity works

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but the real answer is likely Mercy either way

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Mercy?

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She has combat experience and training

iron plume Dec 25, 2020, 3:44 PM

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She has combat medic experience

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Sigma was a scientist and never touched a battle field before talon

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I think Mercy would have been given basic firearms training for self defense

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but that doesn't mean she'd be a particularly good shot

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she just knows how to shoot a gun

lament prawn Dec 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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i think mercy's training is a good place to put the canon-inity of her gun existing, i believe she has it and has used it for training, but makes a point about never using it or barely using it in actual combat

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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But sigma never held a gun

cosmic crest Dec 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Mercy is a combat medic, she certainly has some weapons experience.

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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why does it matter who has the worst aim?

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Why does it matter that anything is anything

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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"worst aim" is somewhat subjective, and not something we can accurately tell because we haven't had anything to compare against

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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It's all just debate it's good to discuss

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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"best aim" we know because there are several heroes said to be exceptional marksmen

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Even that is subjective

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Mcree is able to easily shoot grenades in rapid succession mid air

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Widow has taken out ana's eye

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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we've seen McCree have exceptional aim, and Ana was a professional sniper said to be the best in the world

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and Widowmaker is also a highly skilled sniper

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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And Baptist has been said to be an excellent marksman

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Able to fend off several talon agents gunning for him

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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he could have ambushed them

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nothing says he beat them in a shootout

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:52 PM

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It's still said he's an impressive shot

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And d.va has spectacular coordination

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Most of the cast has exceptional aim, but the best probably comes down to Ana and Widow

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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fathom tartan It's still said he's an impressive shot

source?

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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The link you posted yesterday

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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that doesn't his aim at all

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I’ve never known a medic to be such a good shot

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That's a quote

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From the report

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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okay

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that still doesn't mean he had exceptional aim

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he just has good aim for a medic

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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It's from a talon agent that's impressed by his aiming

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Surely it's something

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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okay

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still not better than Ana, Widowmaker or McCree

finite urchin Dec 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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go celebrate christmas or smth guys

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Iv already done that

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I'm not sure what doc has in her personal life besides a job

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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rude

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Well no I'm just saying I don't know

pliant sparrow Dec 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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L

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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anyway, discussions of "who is best" get very repetitive

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Yeah

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I still think its mcree

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But it's hard to argue against ana

pliant sparrow Dec 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Can't know for certain unless they actually have a contest

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I'm always gonna think the scene in reunion is the single biggest feat of accuracy we've seen

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How old is brig again

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Ana taught McCree most of what he knows about marksmanship from the ground up, he's just a guy trained by the world's best shot, so I find it hard to say he's better than Ana, at least in her prime

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Well now I'm onto ages

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How old is brig

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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!!lorebios

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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And how does tracer's age even work

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Forgot the command

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She still ages normally

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The only thing that changes it is when she's actively using abilities

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Every time she recalls though she should be getting how every many seconds older

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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fathom tartan How old is brig again

23

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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But blink and recall cancel each other out

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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fathom tartan Every time she recalls though she should be getting how every many seconds older

Correct

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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But also did tracer age when she was in between time

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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We don't know how long she was in from her perspective

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But that would be my answer

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Whether it was years or weeks for her would probably be how much she aged

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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But she wasn't even like in time

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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she was only missing for a few weeks

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Oh okay

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Also we know that we caught up to her but we never followed up on the jet is there just a jet blinking in and out of time

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Didn't it explode or something?

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!!loreheroes tracer

twilit nacelleBOT Dec 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

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To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/tracer#story

Overwatch

Tracer - Overwatch

Tracer is a time-jumping adventurer and force for good.

valid terrace Dec 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Nah the thing just disappeared I guess

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So possibly

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Be funny to see it in a future misson

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"What in the world was that"
"Oi think that was the slipstream"
"What?!"

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I don't think we are gonna be seeing it anytime soon

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Maybe ow2

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Witch at this rate it's coming out 2040

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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it won't take that long

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2021 is most likely

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Ik I'm just being hyperbolic

terse oar Dec 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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It’s probably not coming this Anniversary as I had hoped...

arctic loom Dec 25, 2020, 8:23 PM

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no... is cant be november

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a whole year without new content dont makes sense

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Its not a whole year without new content

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We are getting Kanezaka in January.

arctic loom Dec 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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yeah i knwo about map

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i was meaning about a hero

terse oar Dec 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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My guess is they release a beta at BlizzConline

fathom tartan Dec 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Who knows

limpid agate Dec 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

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The last hero was Echo in April. There will undoubtably be hero news in February at Blizzconline.

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

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hopefully a few reveals

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maybe more details on Sojourn

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I feel like the Kanezaka hero is likely going to get revealed at Blizzcon

arctic loom Dec 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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two things i hope to have on that blizzcon be able to do pre order of ow 2

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or

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a beta of ow 2

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i really doubt... this both will happen

peak escarp Dec 25, 2020, 11:38 PM

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those are reasonable hopes to have

terse oar Dec 25, 2020, 11:50 PM

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A beta seems likely as they usually let attendees play the game at BlizzConline. Since BlizzConline is free to attend this year, it’d mean attendees still get to try the game

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I could see them having a release window announced as well

red root Dec 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

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👨‍🦲

scarlet apex Dec 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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fathom tartan But also did tracer age when she was in between time

I think she was just popping in and out of the timeline

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so she could've aged just a few hours/days in the months that she was initially missing

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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if there is any difference with her age, it's probably only a few weeks/months

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not like Mei, who lost 9 years

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I dont give a fuck about so jorn

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I want to hear about heavy assault mauga

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:42 AM

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wow so aggressive

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Lol idrc mate

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There’s legit no minigun character

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Bastion

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and Mauga probably still won't have one

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the Heavy Assault is pretty op, they're not going to make Mauga exactly the same

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Bastion is a turret

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He’s a pathetic fake

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He’s evil for filling the niche of minigun hero

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Zarya and orisa dont count either

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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what's so special about a minigun?

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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It’s fun?

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Like, for me at least, playing the minigun in an fps is the most fun

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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sounds boring

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no skill, just spray

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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There’s a special charm about laying down suppressive fire and seeming like a menace of the battlefield for me

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That’s why I mained heavy in tf2

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 12:52 AM

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peak escarp no skill, just spray

D.va works the same way, no?

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I dislike automatic weapons in general

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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||Sry for ping, that new reply system...||

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I prefer single shots that require precision

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I respect your opinion, but when the enemy needs to be suppressed and cut off from any area, and not killed, then automatic weapons here in the win

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This is purely psychological - a person at the level of instincts is more afraid to hear many small shots than one, but rare.

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:57 AM

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the scarier shot is the one you don't hear

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a single sniper shot is all it takes

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 12:58 AM

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also true, sound is slower than light, so you won't even hear what killed you...

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okay, I think we went to the wrong topic XD

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 12:59 AM

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fair

fringe blade Dec 26, 2020, 2:03 AM

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I think there should certainly be room for both, no?

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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this better be canon https://youtu.be/lcRkaouAP9U

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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what is it

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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reaper and tracer arguing over Christmas cookies

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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oh, no it's not canon

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it's just a cute animation they did for christmas

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I think when he states something like that, which obviously wouldnt be canon, it’s probably just them expressing their approval of it, @peak escarp , if you had a hard time telling

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:22 AM

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no I can tell

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but I treat everything said here as a serious question/statement

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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@finite urchin kinda mansplaining there

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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also yeah

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Hey that’s not fair

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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and you'd be surprised at the things people think are canon

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I didnt know what her gender was

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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What

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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my gender is irrelevant

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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U said mansplaining

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I didnt know what that was

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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You can mansplan to a man

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I searched it up

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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mansplaining is when you explain something to someone who clearly doesn't need explaining

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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It’s

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Kk

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Well online

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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WidowOk

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Ohhh

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It’s, “typically from a man to a woman”

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“Typically”

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:25 AM

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typically yes

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Yeah but anyone can do it do anyone

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Kk

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:26 AM

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anyway, yes I was aware that it was probably sarcasm/a sign of enjoyment

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Ok, i judt thought it was strange how u took it srsly

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:28 AM

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But back to the implantation of malgma into ow I think he could have mini guns but they overheated after a short period making the malga player have to manage there guns alot because itll probably have e wind up aswell

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I take things seriously here because this is a serious channel

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and it is easier to shut down jokes than to humor them

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malgma

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it's Mauga

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Sorry

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I thought there was a L

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:29 AM

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an overheat mechanic would be interesting, but that would just be the same as having to reload

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Not necessarily because you could avoid the overheating but it means you'd have to stop firing

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And if it overheats in assumed it'd be a little longer than a reload and make a loud noise

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Enemy would see your vulnerable at the time

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So if the heat of your gun isnt managed you can be taken out easily

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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so they'd have two reloads?

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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If they had to reload

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The spin up plus overheating may make reloading make him feel unusable

lament prawn Dec 26, 2020, 3:34 AM

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the way it works in most games is that you can avoid long down times by having good fire management but if you need to focus down a target and its worth the extra few shots, you can deliberately overheat and risk being caught in that cooldown time

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not the same as reloading

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:34 AM

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And if he had an ability like sweep it would pair well with trying fend anyone attempting to make use in your vaunrable state

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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this does veer away from lore and into gameplay though

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Idk we tall about implication of charters quite a bit

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I feel like it more lore based because were grabbing from lore and try to construct how itd work in the game

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I think they're going to go a different direction with Mauga

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blowing him up gave them the opportunity to start fresh

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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But I'd assume it'll be like Baptist because bap is like the foot soilders with some changes

arctic loom Dec 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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also one of things i want see on ow 2 story mode

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is ana and pharah reunion

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Like Baptist little geal burst ability is from the foot soilders in retabution they'll do it randomly and I think they just repurposed the ability Baptist

lament prawn Dec 26, 2020, 3:40 AM

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they can do whatever they want design-wise, he obviously wont be a perfect copy of the talon heavy even if he wasnt blown up (see: other talon heroes), but i personally think they’re sticking with at least the base “chunky intimidating heavy dual weilding miniguns”

arctic loom Dec 26, 2020, 3:40 AM

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because... pharah dont even know about her mother alive right?

lament prawn Dec 26, 2020, 3:40 AM

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she knows

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Ana wrote two letters

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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She had dinner with her dad didn't she

lament prawn Dec 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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the letter ana was writing in her origin story was sent to pharah, bastet told us that pharah never replied

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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one explaining why she faked her death, another telling her she was joining up with Jack

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Who dosent sombra know about

arctic loom Dec 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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hm...

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Sombra knows everything

arctic loom Dec 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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yeah

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she know all the secrets

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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What about stuff in junkertown

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No tech no info for sombra

opal berry Dec 26, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Who’s Mauga

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Um a talon heavy that was apart of a team with Baptist when he was in talon

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Mauga was Baptiste’s best friend in Talon

opal berry Dec 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Is he a hero leak for ow2?

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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kinda

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📎 mauga.png

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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He’s not confirmed, buts it’s very likely he’ll be a hero

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After all, Sigma was supposed to be Mauga

opal berry Dec 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I could see that

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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He’s also referred to in a Sombra/Baptiste interaction

opal berry Dec 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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So do you guys play ow2 or is that not a public thing yet

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It kinda got announced then pushed in the closet

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:46 AM

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It’s not public yet :/

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I expect a beta at BlizzConline in February though

arctic loom Dec 26, 2020, 3:46 AM

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so

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why Mina Liao helped to build the omnics

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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She was passionate about it, and they were pretty revolutionary

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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because she believed they would help humanity

cerulean ice Dec 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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it backfired instead

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then she created echo

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Tbf, that’s not really something they could’ve predicted

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 6:28 AM

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About mauga

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They stated that they first intended to give him dual rocket launchers, right?

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 6:29 AM

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no

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Ok, i dont know where i read that

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It just came into my mind

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All of a sudden

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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we don't know what kind of kit he was intended to have, aside from what is described in WYLB

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a shield, two miniguns

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hands that could crush a man's throat

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Ok so it’s confirmed in the lore that he’d have miniguns

terse oar Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 AM

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My guess is he wouldn’t have the charge like normal Heavy Assaults though since the Devs don’t really like ability overlap :/

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Yes definitely not

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Definitely not

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But since tanks are supposed to create distance, be the main pusher/defender, peel

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I think he may have a cc ability

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Like that minigun swing the heavy does when u get too close

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After all, mauga incapacitated one dude with his hands

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And it would really fit his character

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Maybe, like, a body slam?

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Comparable to a one tap rocket punch without wall dmg that can hit multiple targets

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And his miniguns definitely will create distance

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And crush defenses/lay suppressive fire

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Unless they were to change the charge enough to its unique

limpid agate Dec 26, 2020, 8:06 AM

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The only important parts are "Heavy Assault Berzerker (with shield)"

sand barn Dec 26, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Quick question, Genji Mercy ship. Cannon or not?

cerulean ice Dec 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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no

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probably a crush towards mercy but idk

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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No, but with a big "maybe"

sand barn Dec 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Hmm ok

iron plume Dec 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

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they're canonically close, definitely friends
we've had some hints towards more, but no confirmation

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 2:26 PM

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where did that ship even start

proud pike Dec 26, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Interactions/"Reflections" comic

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 2:27 PM

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ahhhh right ty

limpid agate Dec 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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sand barn Quick question, Genji Mercy ship. Cannon or not?

No(t yet.)

If there is any interhero relationship, it will be that. Its the only one that gets teased. It is a big possibility, but the only one at this time worth acknowledging.

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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It’s mostly just headcanons about relationships

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Overwatch lacks lore about relationships and friendships between characters for the most part

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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it's not the sort of game/story that depends on romantic relationships between characters

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they are unneccessary

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Mhm

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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My favorite ship is emily and tracer

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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is it still a ship if it's canon?

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Um

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Yes?

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I think so

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Though I would love more info about Emily like iv said before

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Like how is emily paying for a small apartment in london

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I'm sure tracer's money from ow days wasn't little but an apartment in London isnt cheap

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I think she's a journalist or photographer

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you can see a lot of photos in her apartment

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I also wanna know what she does to cope with tracer going out all the time doing hero stuff what she does to fill her lonely days

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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And also I would like to see tracer write to emily especially sense ow is being rebooted

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I feel bad for emily I know she's okay with tracer going back into the field but still emily is a person too and she doesn't even have a pet or anything

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And I'm sure with a rebooting of ow she's going to have to go into some sort of protection

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 8:44 PM

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it's not like Tracer is going to live on base or something

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she'll probably still live with Emily between missions

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@fathom tartan OW is being rebooted?

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:05 PM

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they mean that Winston is reforming Overwatch

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Ah ok

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 9:35 PM

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peak escarp it's not like Tracer is going to live on base or something

Well there messing with talon widow has already made a debut in london and tracer certainly dosen't hide too much emily would be at risk of assassination

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I doubt it

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she's not important enough

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Emily is a nobody

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Thats a bit harsh lol

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:37 PM

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but in the big picture, it's true

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Though I guess it's true she's beneath even the fodder Talon soldiers

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:38 PM

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she's not a political figure, or anyone important to anyone other than Tracer

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killing her would just make Tracer angry

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the world would not notice

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Mondatta was a valuable assassination target because he meant something to a lot of people

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he was a political/religious figure

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his death will drive a wedge between humans and omnics, which is what Doomfist wants

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Also was important to overwatch although not directly

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:39 PM

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eh

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Emily's death would just add to the list of reasons for Overwatch to hate Talon

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they already have enough reasons

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Inspired their beliefs or at least backed them and made them more supportable by the public

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@graceful shadow Nah she's not important at all merely fodder

graceful shadow Dec 26, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I’m talking about Mondatta

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Then yeah your right

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I also don't think they'll kidnap Emily or try to use her as leverage against Tracer/Overwatch

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mostly because I hate seeing female characters used as pawns like that, but also it doesn't seem like Talon's style

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yes, they kidnapped Gerard's wife and used her against them, but that was under Vialli and the previous Doomfist and they only resorted to that after failing to kill him directly several times

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also, we don't need another Widowmaker situation

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Well it'd break logic in the universe to not put her in s facility safe from dangers like that

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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how so?

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people's loved ones aren't in constant threat from Talon

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even Overwatch members themselves aren't under threat from Talon at the moment

iron plume Dec 26, 2020, 10:03 PM

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and also what facility

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Overwatch is disbanded and then illegal

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Talon is a little busy starting a war

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Tracer has been an annoying threat to talon and widow has had a personal fight with tracer

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And watchpoint gabiralta would he fine

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:22 PM

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then just (try to) kill Tracer

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no need to go after Emily

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:22 PM

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That's not doomfist mo

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He wants to Strengthen humanity via trama

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Doomfist's MO certainly isn't going after civilians

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or kidnapping women

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

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The wants to strengthen humanity

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And itd make talon seem not a threat

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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he wants to strengthen humanity as a whole

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how would targeting one woman do that?

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Tracer has been a symbol of heroism and hope

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Break her

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And you break that

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:26 PM

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then attack Tracer directly

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no point in attacking Emily

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Tracer doesn't seem like the type to give up if Emily is killed/captured - it would only make her fight harder

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Killing tracer wouldn't sting as bad as seeing tracers hope being lost

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Tracer wouldn't lose hope

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she'd fight harder

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:31 PM

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So itd be strenthing her via trama

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:32 PM

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that would strengthen her, but it would do nothing for humanity

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Itd also be like showing talon isnt a threat in this world and there afraid to kill or kidnap when they aren't

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:32 PM

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and Doomfist wants to strengthen humanity

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the public already knows Talon is a threat

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they're terrorists

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So they'd put emily in somewhere safer than a london apartment when a revolt is already in the planning

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:33 PM

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why do you want Emily to be put in danger so bady? there are plenty of other ways to achieve the same result without using a "damsel in distress"

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I want them to put emily somewhere safe

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Because itd make sense

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:34 PM

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it would make sense if she was in danger, but she's not in danger

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:34 PM

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She would be thought

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Because of tracer

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:35 PM

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we haven't seen any evidence that Emily is in danger

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Tracer fails to keep herself private

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Endangering her close ones

valid terrace Dec 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Taking out Emily does nothing for their plans

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It doesn't stop their enemy

pliant sparrow Dec 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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What's the discussion revolving around

valid terrace Dec 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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It wastes their time

worthy rose Dec 26, 2020, 10:39 PM

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She is beneath their time

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:39 PM

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fathom tartan Tracer fails to keep herself private

but there's no evidence that Talon knows who Emily is or where she lives

pliant sparrow Dec 26, 2020, 10:39 PM

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If they wanted to involve Emily in danger, I'd say get her caught up in an attack on london from null sector

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Quick question though, is there any explanation to why the soldier from train hopper knew mccree?

pliant sparrow Dec 26, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I'd assume word of mouth/previous encounter

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Mccree seems to be a known figure

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:47 PM

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finite urchin Quick question though, is there any explanation to why the soldier from train ho...

it's implied that the Talon soldier is former Blackwatch

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since that Talon squad was using Blackwatch tactics

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I just thought it was because reaper and moira were former members

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That they used the tactics

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:51 PM

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we didn't know that when the comic came out

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and at the beginning of the comic, McCree mentions that they're using the Blackwatch playbook

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📎 unknown.png

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it's not impossible that the Talon soldier was a former Blackwatch agent - we've seen a few former Overwatch agents working for Talon

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not just Reaper and Moira, but Vernand Sainclair, from WYLB

finite urchin Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Man i really learned a lot from this channel

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I thought blackwatch was just 4 people

peak escarp Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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nah, it was a whole division

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they probably didn't have many people, but there was more than just Reyes' team

fathom tartan Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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It was like the black ops of overwatch

limpid agate Dec 26, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Given the context, the one that recognized him was probably ex-Overwatch

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Not that it matters, since he's dead now

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 2:02 AM

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dababy

proud pike Dec 27, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Ehh... what?

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TracerShy

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My friend, it's better not to spam here.

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If you have a question or an interesting theory , we will listen, but spamming and writing nonsense is not very good here.

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just saying

fringe blade Dec 27, 2020, 9:43 AM

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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT Dec 27, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

scarlet apex Dec 27, 2020, 12:13 PM

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fathom tartan It was like the black ops of overwatch

Not like

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It was

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black operations are defined as covert military or political operations that generally uses unauthorized (read: illegal) measures

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Reyes's Blackwatch team wasn't legally allowed by international law to be in Venice

proud pike Dec 27, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Perhaps this has already been said, but is Blizzard world an existing place in lore or not?

cosmic crest Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Most likely.

proud pike Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 PM

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okay

fathom tartan Dec 27, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Yes it is

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Blizzard is a real company in ow but in the ow universe they didn't make ow

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Wait does genji’s dragon have a name?

terse oar Dec 27, 2020, 6:08 PM

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worthy rose Wait does genji’s dragon have a name?

The dragon itself doesn’t, but the blade’s name is “Ryūichi moji”

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 6:09 PM

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:0

peak escarp Dec 27, 2020, 6:09 PM

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the dragons aren't real

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they're projections

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Some have given it the nickname soba apparently
Cuss of some fan art of the dragon and some noodles

peak escarp Dec 27, 2020, 6:14 PM

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that's dumb

terse oar Dec 27, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Lol

peak escarp Dec 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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noodle dragons are the worst idea this community has come up with

young knoll Dec 27, 2020, 6:54 PM

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the worst?

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are we talking about the same community that largely doesn't even know the dragons aren't magic

finite urchin Dec 27, 2020, 7:46 PM

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HRMMM?!?!!

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THE DRAGONS—— NOT MAGICCCC??????

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WTF UR HIGH

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NO WAY

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MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 8:12 PM

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And yes, the noodle dragons are a mistake

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But so entertaining

limpid agate Dec 27, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@finite urchin Watch the caps spam

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The dragons are not magic. There is no magic in Overwatch

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I don't know, Reinhardt doesn't get concussions when he charges, pretty magical

valid terrace Dec 27, 2020, 8:45 PM

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The smaller the brain, the less concussions you get ReinhardtSmile

limpid agate Dec 27, 2020, 9:17 PM

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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT Dec 27, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

valid terrace Dec 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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That is a fact though

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Concussions are caused by the brain's contact with the skull

sweet jetty Dec 27, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Dude i dont remember the shorts being so damn good ngl

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wait what exactly are the dragons ive always been curious but never actually looked into it

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yeah the shorts are great especially the ones where Reaper is involved

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Its cool to see Reaper just stomping on the mighty Winston like a child

proud pike Dec 27, 2020, 10:53 PM

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worthy rose Its cool to see Reaper just stomping on the mighty Winston like a child

did you see the rest of it?

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''I'm angy'' boom boom boom

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Thats all

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Winston is invincible

worthy rose Dec 27, 2020, 10:58 PM

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In the recall short Reaper stomped Winston

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Winston only won in the end because of PIS

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Even in the museum Reaper manhandeled base Winston and even when he became angry he fought evenly with him

terse oar Dec 27, 2020, 11:05 PM

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sweet jetty wait what exactly are the dragons ive always been curious but never actually loo...

It’s not been told, but speculation here makes us think it’s some sort of hard light

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We just know it’s not magic ReaperShrug

limpid agate Dec 27, 2020, 11:16 PM

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It's just speculation, but it behaves identically to Syms orbs

proud pike Dec 27, 2020, 11:16 PM

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if it's hard light, that explains a lot

stray zephyr Dec 27, 2020, 11:31 PM

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isnt it genetically bound to the shimadas or something too

limpid agate Dec 27, 2020, 11:33 PM

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We have nothing telling us that

stray zephyr Dec 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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very cool

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Ok then if it isnt magic, why does hanzo say only a true shimada can control the dragons like its some super special superpower

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:05 AM

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because Hanzo is dramatic

gusty sluice Dec 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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So how did the dragons work in real life physics when they are not supposedly magic?!

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Hard light

gusty sluice Dec 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Ok thanks, same stuff symmetra does regularly

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:08 AM

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This is only a guess, but most likely so

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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yeah

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it's probably a family secret or has a DNA key or something

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I would call it technology, not DNA. I doubt that Genji is able to summon a dragon without a sword, and Hanzo without a bow.

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I don't think it's related to their DNA

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I'm just guessing

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the dragon seemed to come out of Hanzo's tattoo in the short

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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hmm... okay, i'm confused a bit now

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Maybe it's a special tattoo DNA type thing that only shimdas know

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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and Hanzo used a sword when he fought and almost killed Genji

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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TracerShy

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Kinda did kill genji

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He had to get like 45% of his body replaced

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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peak escarp the dragon seemed to come out of Hanzo's tattoo in the short

damn, ur right

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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But it also wouldn't make much sense because any tattoo genji has would of been deleted

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Well, now I don't have any ideas at all.

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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fathom tartan But it also wouldn't make much sense because any tattoo genji has would of been ...

maybe, maybe not

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Genji's dragon seems to come from his back

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And I think his back is almost completely destroyed

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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maybe the tattoo isn't involved

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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fathom tartan Genji's dragon seems to come from his back

Cause his sword on his back

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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we don't know

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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That may be why he’s only able to summon one

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Instead of 2

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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By the way.... How does Genji wear a katana like that?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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magnets

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Maybe it's dna coded with there weapons

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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two-handed weapons were never hung on the back

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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but it looks cool

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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He just can't get it out of its scabbard

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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shhh

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rule of cool

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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well. well..

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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And it seems as if they have to say the select phrase

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Maybe dragons are a superpower but they’re just binding it’s power to the weapons

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:24 AM

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shhhh

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we can't break the rule of cool

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xD

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:25 AM

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And i dont think hanzo would be THAT dramatic about it, making tech seem like a superpower

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LOL

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I mean there are plenty of super natural stuff in the ow universe

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Right, so i think it’s reasonable, yeah?

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I think it could be a very long sequence of things you need

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Pls elaborate

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:27 AM

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But also the whole requirement of weapons is questionable because they've had different sowards and bows

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yeah, and hanzo used a sword before didnt he?

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Nothing supernatural in overwatch as far as we know

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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He has used one and is trained but mostly uses bow

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Yeah i think he picked up the bow afterwards

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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finite urchin And i dont think hanzo would be THAT dramatic about it, making tech seem like a ...

Hanzo is dramatic enough to break into Shimada castle every year to honour the brother he thought he murdered

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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pliant sparrow Nothing supernatural in overwatch as far as we know

Man who controls gravity? People able to turn into gas?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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yeah, he'd do that

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Time manipulation?

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Uhh ok, i guess you could say that nothing is supernatural, but loosely based off of science?

proud pike Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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fathom tartan Man who controls gravity? People able to turn into gas?

mutant gorilla from moon

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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That’s what he means ig

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Does it count as supernatural if it's considered extremely advanced technology?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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those are not supernatural

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they all have scientific explanations

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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I assumed supernatural meant things beyond explanation and reason

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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That’s what i said

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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All of those have explanations

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Well if I go get my mind spliced by a blackhole I'm telling you I'm not gonna be able to lift rocks

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Would send a screenshot of the definition of supernatural

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Ok, but it doesnt change the fact that they still have unexplained powers

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:30 AM

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The powers are explained in universe

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:30 AM

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fathom tartan Well if I go get my mind spliced by a blackhole I'm telling you I'm not gonna be...

having your heart slowed doesn't make you purple either

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Exactly

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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they make sense in universe, and that's all that matters

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I suppose

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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they are given an explanation

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Well super powers exist

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Ok? Well unusual things can exist, so why shouldnt the dragons??

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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'A manifestation or event attributed to some force beyond scientific reasoning or understanding or the laws of nature'

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I agree with fightingfox

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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finite urchin Ok? Well unusual things can exist, so why shouldnt the dragons??

???

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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because magic explicitly does not exist

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and dragons by definition are magical creatures

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Well if you strech cannon a bit it could

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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no

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Because of hero strom

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Or whatever its called

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Heroes of the storm is not canon

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I know

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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canonically, magic does not exist

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Well if it does we dont know yet

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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we have been told so by the writers

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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It’s unrealistic for time and space powers to exist tho

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Maybe the shimadas get like infused with dragon juice

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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This isn't our universe

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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they're not suddenly going to change their minds on that

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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This is overwatch's universe

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The abilities are explained with science in universe

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:34 AM

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See the weapons being the key dosent makes sense because they change weapons the tat dosent make sense because genji's body is practically gone

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:35 AM

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We don't know what it is

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But we know it isn't magic

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That's about it

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:35 AM

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The only thing we do know is they probably need to say the phrase

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Genji's seems to more closely related to his sword than anything else

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:37 AM

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You keep saying magic doesnt exist but that doesnt explain why only genji and hanzo can use dragons

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:37 AM

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??

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Maybe its voice recognition

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But what would be recognizing the voice

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:38 AM

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we dont know if it's a fact that only Genji and Hanzo can use them - Hanzo may have just been being dramatic

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:38 AM

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The technology might be fairly common, but it's tailored to the shimada 'style'

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I'd say it's safe to say it's only them

limpid agate Dec 28, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Its not

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:39 AM

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It is, i frankly believe hanzo wouldnt be that dramatic

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:39 AM

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but if it is Shimada exclusive, there's plenty of explanations - DNA locks, family secret, exclusive rights, etc

limpid agate Dec 28, 2020, 1:40 AM

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finite urchin You keep saying magic doesnt exist but that doesnt explain why only genji and ha...

We were told, explicitly, that the dragons are not magic.

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The dragons were the exact example used to say

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Magic does not exist.

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:40 AM

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again, this is Hanzo, the man who fights his way into a guarded castle on the same day every year to light some incense to honor the brother he thinks he murdered

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he is 100% dramatic enough

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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peak escarp again, this is Hanzo, the man who fights his way into a guarded castle on the sa...

Then explain why he was so shocked?

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Dont be so mean to hanzo

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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That someone else could use it?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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because he's also sheltered? idk

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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ive seen lizards now prove to me dragons dont exists

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Hmmm

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I don't care enough

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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checkmate atheists

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Your lizard dosent breath fire

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Or fly

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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You dont know that

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I just did some research, didnt sym say that there were some things she could do with hard light that others coudlnt?

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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maybe hes just cautious and prefers to be on the ground

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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that's not how evidence works

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I think

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I think maybe its the same case with shimadas

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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can you disprove it

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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maybe

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Now that i think of it

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:43 AM

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sweet jetty can you disprove it

can you prove it?

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I dont have to disprove anything

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:43 AM

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No cos he died

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but i saw him fly and breathe fire

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these are the facts

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:43 AM

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it's on you to prove your outlandish claims

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:43 AM

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TracerShy

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:43 AM

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i dont have to prove anything

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these are facts

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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facts need proof

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Okay Selena this is getting to shit post status

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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prove it

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lmao

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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!!shitposting @sweet jetty

twilit nacelleBOT Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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@sweet jetty Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:44 AM

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fine fine

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Lol it was a joke

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U lore channel lurkers gotta chill

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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this is a serious discussion channel

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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No funny aloud here

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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not the place for jokes

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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mans gettin bent outta shape cos his noodle dragons cant get explained

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Why are roads in OW so small

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And narrow

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Is that an acceptable lore question lol

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Sorry if it’s not

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Yeah since aymmetra could do some unique things with hard light im assuming that its the same case qith shimadas

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Uh that’s a good question

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But no answer

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Not sure maybe in the future people have smaller cars?

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Wait

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Maybe it’s just not canon

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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prime zephyr Why are roads in OW so small

artistic license

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Why is there no direct route to get to route 66?

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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How far into the future is overwatch set

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Like far

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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prime zephyr How far into the future is overwatch set

about 60 years

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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like theres no roads leading there

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Its set in 2079 or 2069

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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69

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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U can frankly find this online

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Lol

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69

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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No need to be rude

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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im a comedic genius

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Whoops sey

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Sry

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I don't like these people in lore

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I just meant that this info can be found with a quick search

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Lore has the nicest people

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The rest just has rude people

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Like they ignore u and everything

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I need to fill my glowing brain with Ow lore

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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finite urchin I just meant that this info can be found with a quick search

there's no harm in them asking here

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I wonder who has the best physical endurance of all heroes

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Tracer

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Echo

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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E.g. long distance running/swimming

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Bastion

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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prime zephyr Like they ignore u and everything

Well, its mostly because this channel doesnt allow trolls and there arent so many lore fanatics

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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She’s a robot tho

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So she shouldn’t really count

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True

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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No, its doomfist

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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What

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No

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Yeah

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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My initial guess was soldier

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Soldier is old

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So can’t be him

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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reaper might be immortal

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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He’s strong enough to smash the ground, he wouldnt get tired

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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He is also essentially captain america

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Wait hol up

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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god knows whats up with him

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Yeah i think reaper

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Well tracer runs track but soilder and reaper are slower soilders but there also old and died

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Reaper literally just doesnt have a physical form and can probably hands down out pace anyone

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Soldier and Reaper are genetically enhanced

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Tracer runs a lot

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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C’mon it’s obviously tracer

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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okay

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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But also soilder and reaper are really old

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I mean winston is a modified gorilla so

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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What about zarya

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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they might be old but they're still in peak condition

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Why didn’t we talk about her lmao

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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shes literally just a bodybuilder as far as im aware

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Zarya is more strength-based, not endurance-based

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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peak escarp they might be old but they're still in peak condition

I wouldn't say peak but close

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Hmmm

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I think doomfist has the most endurance?

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No?

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I mean he’s probably the strongest character

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Doomfist did punch a wall with his bare hands for awhile

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Doomfist is also a trained martial artist

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so he'd have good endurance

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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And he’s 7 foot 6

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I mean

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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doomfist probably has the highest gforce endurance

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Are we also counting genji

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Ew genji

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No

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Rude

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Lol

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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He’s 90% robot so no

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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More like 45%

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Well, let’s count all the heroes

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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what about roadhog?

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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No

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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man is pretty big

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Bc about all of them have enhancements

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Yes roadhog

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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could prolly be a sumo wrestler or somethin

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Let’s be honest

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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It wouldnt be fair just to count out the ones who used cybernetics

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Uhh hog?

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Hog ligit must take those inhalers ever now and then or he dies bc radiation

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I mean, he’s mutant

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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man is inhaling copious amounts of steroids

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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But he also runs out of breath easy

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So he dosent have good endurance

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Roadhog isn't a mutant, and doesn't inhale steroids

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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But i dont think he has the highest endurance

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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What does he inhale then?

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Counting all heroes, the robots would easily have the best endurance

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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he inhales Hogdrogen, which treats radiation poisoning

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Hogdrogen?

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Its probably tracer or doomfist

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Yeah

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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is the real lore?

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Its written on the can

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And yes

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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HAHAHAHA hogdrogen

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Wait

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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That is peak dumb

prime zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Serious?

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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You could actually learn A LOT from the channel

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For instance

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Do u know who mauga is?

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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man just breathes in a canister of hog juice brewed in his backyard

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Is mauga confirmed polynesian?

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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No

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He’s samoan

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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his name is of Polynesian origin

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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surely thats not healthy to breath in right

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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That is

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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being flamable and all

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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and he mentions Haiti reminding him of home

fathom tartan Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Mass destruction?

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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It’s probably like asthma gas or some shit

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Radiation treatments usually aren't healthy

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I mean

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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But much better than the alternative

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Idk i dont know what is in inhalers

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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then why does he gain health from it

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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But compare hogdrogen to an inhaler

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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if its just there to treat radiation?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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sweet jetty then why does he gain health from it

because it heals him

sweet jetty Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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But why?

peak escarp Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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in the lore, it heals his radiation poisoning

pliant sparrow Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Because gameplay mechanics

finite urchin Dec 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Bc that’s not canon