#lore-discussion

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fathom tartan
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Looks are often deceiving

swift mason
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If hardlight can turn into a colour other than blue, then it might be possible

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which it is

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since we see it turn yellow

proud pike
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The main thing is that his shield is invisible

fathom tartan
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Wait who we talking about

swift mason
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DF shield

fathom tartan
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Doom fist?

swift mason
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yeah we're debating whether his invisible shield is hardlight

fathom tartan
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Oh well

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What's stopping light form being not seen

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I mean its light c'mon

cerulean ice
swift mason
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It hasn't been confirmed however, thats why we're determining possibilities

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Who knows, it might not be hardlight

fathom tartan
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I mean if light can be turned solid I never understood why it would be blue anyway light is spectrum

peak escarp
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for the aesthetics

fathom tartan
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Having the light be unseeable doesn't seem really that out if the picture

swift mason
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Not everything in the OW universe would make sense

proud pike
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by the way... if they confirm that HL can change color, is it wrong to say that Zenyatta's yellow hands are Canon?

fathom tartan
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And also haveing your team see a shield sounds smart

proud pike
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Like... Sym gave him HL technology or smth?

swift mason
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I've made a theory like that a few weeks ago

fathom tartan
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Tbh I'm thinking hard light already existed in ow but it was just more industrialized more recent in ow

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Like the dragons seem like hl

swift mason
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I posted it on reddit, but im not sure if i can post links here

fathom tartan
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HL is a headache and a half tbh

peak escarp
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it's just part of soft sci-fi

fathom tartan
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Like is it just making light more dense until its solid?

peak escarp
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it's something theoretical physicists have been working on

proud pike
peak escarp
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Solid light, often referred to in media as "hard light" or "hard-light", is a hypothetical material, made of light in a solidified state. Theoretically, it is possible to make such a material, and there are claims this material was already made, including claims from MIT and Harvard. the material it self is hard to make because when photons come...

proud pike
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But... Technically

fathom tartan
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No

proud pike
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Hard light is still a light?

fathom tartan
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Light no be hard

proud pike
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light can change colors, in theory, hard l can also

fathom tartan
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Too many contradicts of my understanding of the universe for me

proud pike
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Hmmm...

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Shimada dragons

peak escarp
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fiction often requires the suspension of disbelief

fathom tartan
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Liquid light

proud pike
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So.... HL can change colours?

fathom tartan
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Yes

proud pike
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So.... Zeny's yellow hands are real?

peak escarp
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possibly

proud pike
peak escarp
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they could just be a representation of Aurora's transcendance

fathom tartan
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I mean the iris is supposedly a real thing in ow

peak escarp
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well

fathom tartan
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Listen all I know is the eye is like the center in sombra web

proud pike
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its like a group-bug

peak escarp
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it's as real as any faith

proud pike
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yea

fathom tartan
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Can I get a pic of sombra's web in here please

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That web is nice

proud pike
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we can't send pics

fathom tartan
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Six can I think

peak escarp
fathom tartan
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She's accomplished unlike us

proud pike
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Eye is just something like her symbol, am I right?

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I don't remember any organizations with this logo

peak escarp
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the eye represents the entity that spied on Sombra

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the one that made her panic and erase her identity

proud pike
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oh

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thanks

fathom tartan
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I thought that was the eye of the iris

peak escarp
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there's a theory that Sombra's eye and the iris are the same entity

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and it's just a passive observer

swift mason
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Fun trivia about the eye: That design was similar to the OW symbol's original first design

fathom tartan
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The iris could be like one of the god a.i

peak escarp
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not likely

proud pike
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something that unites them

fathom tartan
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Idk a God a.i hidden in Nepal doesn't seem too stretchy

peak escarp
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it's not that

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it's just that "god programs" aren't what people think they are

fathom tartan
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They haven't been explained too in depth on lore though

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*in

cerulean ice
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its stretchy because theres no evidence whatsoever

last inlet
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I'm not sure there's a whole lot to explain at this point

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by which I mean

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It may have been intended to be a bigger deal before, but the writers kinda just left it alone

peak escarp
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"God program" is more of a colloquial term describing Anubis than a designation for a class of AIs.

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it's a term specific to Anubis

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not anything/anyone else

fathom tartan
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Lame

cerulean ice
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its not specific to anubis

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there are several

peak escarp
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that quote comes from Michael Chu

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there are not several "god programs"

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there is Anubis

cerulean ice
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the term specifically then

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the device itself

peak escarp
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the device itself?

cerulean ice
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err the program

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or whatever it is

fathom tartan
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Where else has it been used

cerulean ice
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just in the omnic crisis

peak escarp
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it hasn't been used anywhere else

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this is the only place "god programs" appears in the lore

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after this comic came out, Chu clarified that the term was exclusive to Anubis

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Pharah said "one of the", but she's not exactly an expert on it and probably heard about them second hand from her mother

cerulean ice
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yes, the term, so theres more

peak escarp
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if there are more, then they're also in quarantine and wouldn't be a concern

fathom tartan
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Well

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What if they didn't know about them all

cerulean ice
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about what

fathom tartan
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All the god programs

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Like if 1 was hidden to avoid quarantine

peak escarp
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what would be the point of that?

fathom tartan
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Omnic stuff

peak escarp
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we have Word of God saying "god programs" means "Anubis"

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until we have proof of anything else, that's it

grand wedge
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There is the rule that if the writter specify something different from an old canon piece - the newer lore bit is the accurate one.

worthy rose
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the talon symbol looks like the mandalorians from Star Wars

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i just realised that

proud pike
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And OW symbol looks like two hands that give each other a high five

sand barn
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Quick question

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In which comic was it said that Jack is gay

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Please ping me if u have the answer

spice eagle
sand barn
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Oh

cerulean ice
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bastet yes

sand barn
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Alr thanks.

finite mango
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guys

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do you think that Mei's friends will back as champs in ov 2?

iron plume
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you mean the other Ecopoint scientists?
no, they're dead

finite mango
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oh..

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that sucks

worldly elbow
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I really want more Zenyatta lore, I feel like he doesn’t have enough story

desert yarrow
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he got some like 2 weeks ago

worldly elbow
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He did?

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I didn’t se that

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Send to me

cerulean ice
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yall keep wanting zen lore yet not even updated on the lore itself

worldly elbow
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Yes

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I know the lore

proud pike
worldly elbow
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Just zen doesn’t have enough

proud pike
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Stone by stone as i remember

worldly elbow
proud pike
worldly elbow
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I didn’t read a word of that

cerulean ice
worldly elbow
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I know the old lore

proud pike
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So.... why just dont read the new one?

sudden herald
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I love stone by stone

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Symmetra is SymmetraGiggle

fathom tartan
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Sym is a lame character

sudden herald
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Lies

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Heresy

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All of it

cerulean ice
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she has a really interesting character considering her spectrum

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and that shes also getting a development

opaque tundra
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Stone By Stone actually made me like Sym more

sudden herald
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I've always liked sym

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But stone by stone was so interesting

cinder plover
sudden herald
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^^

fathom tartan
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But volkska sus

cerulean ice
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huh?

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sym is from vishkar

worthy hull
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Winston fucked reaper

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And torb watched

cerulean ice
worthy hull
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Y

rain star
worthy hull
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It is apart of the lore

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I saw on reddit

rain star
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my minds explosion just exploded

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pfft zen lore

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impossible!

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okey dokey

cerulean ice
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shes autistic yes

rain star
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sym x zen?

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idk tho...

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why sym x handzoo

loud plume
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Nah m8

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Echo x Bastion

fathom tartan
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Nah

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Tracer and emily is the best ship ever

iron plume
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that's about enough shitposting for this channel

fathom tartan
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Emily is nice

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I wonder what she does at home though

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Especially now sense overwatch is back up

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I want a small animated short about emily just going about her day

errant basin
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when is new patch?

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Patch!!

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!!Patch

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!!patch

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patch!!

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bruh i give up

worthy rose
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@worthy hull Winston never f-ed Reaper you dirty minded buffoon

rain star
candid juniper
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This isn’t the place for ships

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And most of these messages aren’t lore-relevant anyway

rain star
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sticks tounge out i think it is the place for ships, but if not where

opaque tundra
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General discussion

valid terrace
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This is the place for canon ships, or for discussing theories with officially sourced evidence

fathom tartan
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Tracer and emily seems like the kind of partners to have a pet

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Why dont they

peak escarp
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Tracer seems too busy

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always running around

fathom tartan
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Maybe but like a cat

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Cat's are pretty low maintenance

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And I'm sure Emily gets lonely

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I want more info on emily

valid terrace
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Pet Gorilla TracerHappy

fathom tartan
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But I'm also scared to because then she'll probably get kidnapped

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Or 360°ed by widow

peak escarp
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not likely

fathom tartan
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I hope emily is getting like lots of security in a ow base

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Because being in a apartment in London doesn't sound safe when A your parenter is a outlaw B your partner is making people like talon angy

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And I mean killing emily to strengthen tracer would fall under doomfist's pain=strength ideology

peak escarp
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I still don't think they would do that

valid terrace
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Also I don't think Doomfist is meant to be right in the end

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At least not the best answer

frail flame
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I just hope we see more of Emily in OW2 tbh

jaunty nebula
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Might be a new character?

peak escarp
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not likely

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Emily is a civilian

rain star
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what do they taste like?

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emily = sojourn?

peak escarp
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Emily is not Sojourn

rain star
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ok

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we have little to no info on sjourn so i was theorizing

peak escarp
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we know what she looks like

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clearly not the same person

rain star
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im probably wrong, but just wanna point out that this is a world where time travelers and gravity people and war hampsters and giant apes with tasers do battle for this one random spot on the map

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i imagine she could change her look

peak escarp
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they're literally not the same person

rain star
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⬆️

limpid agate
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We know more about Sojourn than we do about Emily.

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Sojourn was part of Overwatch for >20 years.

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She is a cyborg who is cyberized to the point that she has brain implants.

rain star
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she in that 1 pic of the ow team?

limpid agate
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She took over Ana's job as Captain after she "died" in Poland.

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Yes

rain star
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hmm

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who else in the pic we missing

limpid agate
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Crouching guy

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All we know is he is not Liao.

rain star
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ok

limpid agate
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Actually that's a useless comment now

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Because we know who Liao is

rain star
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doesnt some guy show up in a titan class omnic in a torb comic? just an idea

limpid agate
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Sven is not the crouching guy.

rain star
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😦

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i feel like the lore is kinda closed in ow

limpid agate
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Closed how

rain star
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like not much room left for us to fill in with what we know, but alot out there that we simply dont have the info to fill in'

limpid agate
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I think the crouching guy is the recurring background character with the bionic pecs.

rain star
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everytime i come here with a theory there is someone who can straight up tell me

rain star
limpid agate
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What

rain star
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well how do we know hes crouching if we cant see his legs

limpid agate
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Pecs

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Pectorals

peak escarp
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because he's literally crouching

rain star
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o my bad

limpid agate
rain star
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whos the man in the yellow suit?

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do we know?

limpid agate
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Doesn't matter

rain star
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why not?

limpid agate
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Because that image is not canon.

rain star
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o

peak escarp
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it's an early concept that didn't get used

limpid agate
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It did get used

rain star
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dang

limpid agate
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In the first cinematic

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But it got retconned.

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Zenyatta, Lucio, and Bastion with no minigun are all present there as members of Overwatch

peak escarp
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I mean the design of the character in the hazmat suit

limpid agate
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But none are members of Overwatch

peak escarp
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or did they become someone else?

limpid agate
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Torb wore a hazmat suit, and people speculated it was supposed to be the Alchemist that became Ana

peak escarp
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ah

rain star
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i wonder about the ex-OW agent in bap lore. hes prolly a side character tho

peak escarp
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Sainclair probably won't be important

limpid agate
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He wasn't an agent

rain star
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hes ex ow tho?

limpid agate
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Yes

rain star
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how?

limpid agate
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Overwatch is more than just agents

peak escarp
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he's just there to show that some former Overwatch employees weren't too happy

rain star
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he do the trash or something?

limpid agate
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Mei was not an agent when she was part of Overwatch either.

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Neither was Winston for the first 5 years he was in the organization

rain star
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👍

limpid agate
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No, he was a handler.

peak escarp
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could see that it was slowly rotting from the inside out.”```
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he was the guy who would manage teams in the field remotely

rain star
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yo ngl i thot of winston as OW leader even though 76/reyes are canonically leader

peak escarp
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Winston is leading the new Overwatch

limpid agate
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Winston is the de facto leader of new Overwatch

rain star
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ha HA

frosty shell
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I thought the character in the Hazmat suit in that picture was an early Junkrat

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it's supposed to be a bomb-disposal suit

dusty sentinel
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Is widows numb thing wearing off?

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Its pretty sad seeing her emotionless psychopath

tacit oak
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Does mercy and baby diva use the same gun

dusty sentinel
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No

limpid agate
dusty sentinel
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Aww

tacit oak
final ore
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Hello everyone merry xmas!!

sacred pine
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Question why exactly is widow maker purple and if y’all have an answer please tag me

peak escarp
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@sacred pine because she has been genetically altered to have a slower heart rate

worthy rose
limpid agate
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It doesn't.

worthy rose
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to me it does

limpid agate
worthy rose
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ofc hanzo has better hair

limpid agate
worthy rose
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would have been cool to maybe have been a early concept

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OH NVM that looks way better and nope nvm i was wrong

sacred pine
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Thanks @peak escarp

proud pike
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khm

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rude...

limpid agate
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Moving swiftly onwards.

proud pike
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well

hushed jetty
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Some have said there is a new Bap/Sombra interaction where he mentions Mauga- is this true?

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Or at least refers to Mauga

proud pike
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On PTR maybe? (I really don't know, sry)

swift mason
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Yes, there are many interactions between sombra and baptiste

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one mentioning mauga

limpid agate
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There are 4 Sombra/Baptiste interactions

fathom tartan
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What if we didn't move swiftly onwards what if we moved like a sliver comp payload

limpid agate
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

fathom tartan
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😐

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Anyway didn't they say we we're gonna get junker queen sometime

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I feel like we have no info on her

peak escarp
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they said she would be an important character

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or rather, they have plans for her

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not necessarily that they're going to add her

fathom tartan
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It seems like an interesting charter

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All we really know is that she is queen of junker town

limpid agate
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She became the queen by using her influence as the champion of the Scrapyard.

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So we know she is the former gladitorial mech champion of the Scrapyard.

peak escarp
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and she has some history with Roadhog (unknown exactly what)

fathom tartan
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Roadhog and junkrat duo is strange to me

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Like roadhog is his freind but also guard

proud pike
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RH is just a mercenary

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for life, but still a mercenary

peak escarp
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I wouldn't really consider them friends

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Junkrat thinks he's a friend, but it's not mutual

fathom tartan
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But I don't think hog is even really paid apart from take in jobs

valid terrace
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He get's a 50% cut of Junk's treasure

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Which we don't know the nature of

rain star
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i dont think junk succeds in getting said treasure

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thats how i interpreted his cutscene anyways

valid terrace
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He has the treasure hidden somewhere is our current knowledge

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It could also not be something physical so there's nothing to steal

rain star
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maybe its some new limbs 😂

odd saffron
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lol

quiet bone
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its sad that zens lore.

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he has less lore then my shoe lace

peak escarp
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he just got featured in a short story

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your meme is out of date

quiet bone
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really i didnt know that

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oh in the comics nvm

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i think sigma has the most lore

peak escarp
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not even close

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Sigma barely has any

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Reaper, Ana, Soldier and Tracer have the most lore

worthy rose
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sigma has some of the best lore in my opinion but it's a fact he has way less lore than a lot of other heros

hushed jetty
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sigma is an interesting character but he doesn't have that much lore

mortal isle
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y is sigma beeg

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???

peak escarp
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a bed bug?

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I don't

mortal isle
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you didn't answer my question

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y is sigma beeg

peak escarp
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what is beeg?

mortal isle
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beeeeeege

peak escarp
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beige?

mortal isle
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nope

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beeg

valid terrace
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He's dutch

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They are quite tall

mortal isle
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beeg

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oh

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thank you

peak escarp
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oh big

mortal isle
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no

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beeg

valid terrace
mortal isle
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beeg is beeg

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not big

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get it right

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beeg is very beeg; an example of something beeg would be beeg yoshi or normal roadpiggy

peak escarp
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this is an English speaking server

mortal isle
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yes it is

peak escarp
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beeg is not an English word

mortal isle
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oui il est

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tu peux parle Francis?

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non

peak escarp
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il n'est pas

mortal isle
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il est anglais

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anglais

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english dummy

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beeg is beeg

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beeg is god

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Jesus is beeg

peak escarp
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Jesus isn't lore

mortal isle
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good point

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no sigma is beeg not beeg jesus

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science is blasphemy

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you'll burn in beeg hell

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hell

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sigma mei and bastion are all beeg

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hellllllll

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is beeg

peak escarp
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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

mortal isle
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sorry

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is there a beeg section?

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lol

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cya

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remember beeg is watching

rain star
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lol beeg ftw

now i must run before doc 6 reports cuz hes tilted

peak escarp
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

rain star
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called it

peak escarp
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that's not a report

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that's a warning

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and I'm not a he

rain star
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o my bad on gender

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ik its no report

ancient holly
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has anyone found anything big on the new map? I've been looking around for a while and I can't make out the right side of the graffiti

peak escarp
ancient holly
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yeah that one

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I get that the left side is the fox

peak escarp
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I can never read grafitti

ancient holly
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which I'm guessing is related to the fox statues and the temple in the middle of the map

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I tried tying it to the tiger place cuz that place just sounds like an evil lair but I couldn't figure anything out with that so I gave up

drowsy zephyr
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the right side kinda looks like a squid

white cobalt
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Jeff said there are some Easter eggs

drowsy zephyr
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yeah i saw

terse oar
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There’s some new interactions OrisaHappy 🎉

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Mainly for Sombra

fathom tartan
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Is new Map pretty

peak escarp
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it's very pretty

fathom tartan
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Nice

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I'd like to know more about the shahada clan as a whole

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Like genji's and hanzo's father

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We know his father called him sparrow

worthy rose
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Isn’t he the head of the shimada

fathom tartan
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I think he died?

worthy rose
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No I don’t think so

terse oar
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Jeff hinted at a future character being linked to the Shimadas in the dev update

worthy rose
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Unless it was specified somewhere

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Really?

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What were his words?

terse oar
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Sojiro, Genji and Hanzo’s father, was assassinated

worthy rose
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Well yeah but about hero 33

peak escarp
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from the dev update:

terse oar
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“We’re gonna learn not only about the Shimada brothers [on this map] but possibly some other people that relate to that whole group”

peak escarp
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It's not just some random setting, there's a lot of contextual storytelling we're doing in this free for all map, with some easter eggs and some payoff that is going to come in Overwatch 2, but we're going to learn more, not only about our two favourite Shimada brothers, but possibly some other people as well that relate to that whole group. So it should be really interesting, there's a lot of easter eggs in the map, not only about future Overwatch lore, but some fun stuff in regards to the team that makes the game.

terse oar
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I don’t know how you do that lol

peak escarp
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I had it posted on another server

terse oar
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Ah

worthy rose
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That’s not hinting to another shimada character

terse oar
worthy rose
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That’s just saying we might learn more about them

terse oar
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I said linked to the Shimadas

worthy rose
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Oh

peak escarp
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it's hinting that the new map is connected to the Shimadas or someone related/associated with them

worthy rose
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I wonder who’s that be

terse oar
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Most likely someone we haven’t heard of directly

worthy rose
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I thought they said no new maps till OW2

terse oar
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I wonder if this could mean the Shimada Clan could be a small faction for the PvE WinstonThink

peak escarp
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they never said that

fathom tartan
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I just want to hear about hanzo and genji's father or possibly there mother

peak escarp
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they only said no new heroes

fathom tartan
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A childhood comic or short would be cool

terse oar
worthy rose
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Oh

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Well I’m glad they added this one

peak escarp
worthy rose
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Actually makes me want to play death match

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So when are we ever getting more mauga lore

last inlet
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Maybe when we get Mauga

peak escarp
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we kinda got some with the new Sombra/Baptiste interactions

terse oar
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^

worthy rose
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Oooo

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How and where and what

terse oar
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Baptiste: “So... how is he?”
Sombra: “He’s very excited to meet you. Be careful”

worthy rose
#

Ah yes I love that voiceline

peak escarp
#

they weren't planning on adding this new map, one of their new hires made it and they liked it so much it got added

opaque tundra
#

That guy is definitely keeping his job for a long time lol

#

Relating to lore, I also wanna point out that Rein didn't know how to operate a phone in the new interaction. Rein was most likely born in the 2010's, so he should've grown up with modern technology.

peak escarp
#

modern to us

worthy rose
#

Ah yes we finally have Dva mentioning Dae-Hyun

peak escarp
#

60 years from now, it would be outdated

fathom tartan
#

Voice lines are werid though

#

Because they exist in this werid state of cannon

cerulean ice
#

most of the voice lines anyways are an "if" situation

fathom tartan
#

Yeah

cerulean ice
#

its technically.. canon

fathom tartan
#

But like rein shouting traitor to reaper is werid because alot of people thought rein knew about reaper but he dosent

#

I guess in after zero dawn he would

#

Be that voice line was out for awhile

peak escarp
#

zero dawn?

fathom tartan
#

Uhhhhh

peak escarp
#

you mean Zero Hour?

fathom tartan
#

Yeah

peak escarp
#

why would Rein know who Reaper is because of Zero Hour?

fathom tartan
#

Because winston knows

peak escarp
#

Winston doesn't know

fathom tartan
#

Because winston was attacked by reaper

worthy rose
#

Wait what voiceline with rein and reaper

limpid agate
#

!!wiki Reaper/Quotes

twilit nacelleBOT
peak escarp
#

Winston doesn't know Reaper is Reyes

fathom tartan
#

He shoudl

worthy rose
#

Winston only knows reaper is reaper

peak escarp
#

but Mercy does

worthy rose
#

I think only soldier and Ana know, as well as probs his talon friends

limpid agate
#

Winston doesn't know Reaper is Reyes. Winston was attacked by the Reaper and know the Reaper exists.

worthy rose
#

And mercy

fathom tartan
#

Winston got attacked by reaper and I dont think there many wraith figers running around with shotguns

#

He's a pretty big brain ape I hope he can connect two and two

limpid agate
#

The people who know Reaper is Gabriel Reyes are:

  • Soldier 76 and Ana (Old Soldiers)
  • Doomfist (Masquerade)
  • Sombra (Interactions)
  • Mercy (Valkyrie)
  • Moira (She is partly responsible for his condition)
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Reyes was not a wraith figure running around with shotguns

worthy rose
#

I thought genji would know

#

Also I’m pretty sure Mcree knows

limpid agate
#

Reyes was a man running around with shotguns who is now dead, as far as Winston is concenred

worthy rose
#

There’s a voice line or something that implies it

limpid agate
#

McCree has no way of knowing unless Sombra told him.

#

He would know if he met Reaper

#

He has not met Reaper

#

They haven't crossed paths yet

fathom tartan
#

But reyes had wraith abilities when he was in blackwatch

peak escarp
#

McCree would also be able to tell if they met/fought, but so far they haven't met

peak escarp
limpid agate
#

Lots of people have wraith abilities too.

#

The Talon Snipers for example

#

Are heavily implied to posses them

#

But its never been explicit

worthy rose
#

Wait so are their interactions an if situation?

fathom tartan
#

But none sporting two shotguns

limpid agate
#

Yes, they are what-ifs

worthy rose
#

Sad

fathom tartan
#

Hmmmmmm

peak escarp
#

it's not impossible for other people to use 2 shotguns

#

and Winston wasn't closely familar with Reyes to begin with

fathom tartan
#

If moria knows how to use and enhance these abilities

#

And talon has had them for awhile

peak escarp
#

so he wouldn't recognize Reyes' fighting style the way McCree might

worthy rose
#

Talon has had them for a while

fathom tartan
#

Could this mean moria was in cahoots with talon when she was with blackwatch

limpid agate
#

The only reason Winston would know is if Mercy tells him

peak escarp
#

possibly

worthy rose
#

How far back was retribution

limpid agate
#

Retribution was 8 years ago

#

9 years before Zero Hour

fathom tartan
#

Before storm rising

limpid agate
#

8 before Recall

fathom tartan
#

Genji could've also told winston

worthy rose
#

So yeah they probs had that wraith tech for about 20+ years

#

Genji doesn’t know

peak escarp
#

Genji doesn't know either

limpid agate
#

They didnt have it for 20+ years

fathom tartan
#

Genji was in retribution

limpid agate
#

Moira was independent until <10 years ago

fathom tartan
#

Right

worthy rose
#

Wait Moira invented the wraith?

limpid agate
#

She has played a heavy hand in 100% of the known instances of it.

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

Can it be possible that she was working for talon in retribution

limpid agate
#

Yes

worthy rose
#

Considering the snipers had it

#

I feel like Sanjay is the reason why assasins can teleport

fathom tartan
#

I dont think she invented it but she's the only one we know to weaponize it

#

The one voice line with reaper and mercy is quite confusing though where she's curious about what happened he say she should know because she did it

peak escarp
#

Mercy didn't do anything to Reyes

worthy rose
#

I highly doubt mercy would give reaper powers

fathom tartan
#

I'm thinking her regnative tech maybe malfunctioned

peak escarp
#

why would she ask if she was involved?

#

this is how resurrect actually functions

fathom tartan
#

Yeah

peak escarp
#

it's just a burst heal

fathom tartan
#

I know

#

But it can still malfunction

worthy rose
#

Wait so she can’t actually resurrect people?

peak escarp
#

nope

worthy rose
#

I’ve been lied to for 3 years

fathom tartan
#

Like reaper is in constant state of cells dieing and regenerating

peak escarp
#

yes

fathom tartan
#

So it could be a glitch in the nano teach trying to heal something but being unable to because it's a constant

peak escarp
#

he has regeneration due to his SEP conditioning

#

same as Soldier

fathom tartan
#

Well idk

peak escarp
#

Mercy is not involved

fathom tartan
#

The voice line is just strange

worthy rose
#

So how does mercy know that reaper is Reyes

peak escarp
#

because she saw him in Valkyrie

fathom tartan
#

I mean you know what voice line I'm referring to right

peak escarp
#
“What is that?” I breathed.
“Gabriel.”
I winced from the intensity of Jack’s voice in my ear. A dozen questions tried to shoulder their way into my 
 attention, but right now, I had to push them away. “That’s not our concern, Morrison. We have people to save.”```
#

yes I know the line

#

why would Mercy ask what happened if she was in any way involved?

fathom tartan
#

No

peak escarp
#

Reaper says "you tell me" because she's a doctor and she should be able to figure out what happened

fathom tartan
#

I suppose

#

The line just seemed like he was putting blame to her

worthy rose
#

Wait so valkrie and old soldiers happened at the same time then

peak escarp
#

Old Soldiers, then Bastet, then Valkyrie

#

they happen over about a month or so, between December and January

worthy rose
#

Oh ok

fathom tartan
#

Why didn't mercy want ana to make her sniper again

peak escarp
#

Ana's eye serves as a reminder of her failure to act

fathom tartan
#

Huh

#

No I mean how ana built her sniper

#

Although mercy said dont

peak escarp
#

this?

fathom tartan
#

Uh its something next to a skin

fathom tartan
#

Who is running the shamda clan now

peak escarp
#

we don't know

fathom tartan
#

Sense genji is presumed dead and hanzo was banished

peak escarp
#

Hanzo left, he wasn't banished

fathom tartan
#

But we still know the shamda clan is up and running because hanzo has to kick ass every year to pay respects

peak escarp
#

or a different clan has moved into the castle

#

maybe a rival clan

fathom tartan
#

Or doomfist being a business man took it

peak escarp
#

not likely

fathom tartan
#

Yeah

#

But if it's a rival clan they didn't bother to remove shimada symbolism

peak escarp
#

idk

#

could be a branch family

fathom tartan
#

Maybe a uncle or something

#

I'm really interested in their father though

#

He is refreshed quite a bit

peak escarp
#

he's dead

#

possibly assassinated

fathom tartan
#

Yeah

#

But I just wanna know him as a charter better

#

He's referenced a bit by both hanzo and genji

#

Hanzo yelling at genji that real life isnt like father's stories

#

And the lore snip bit on the sparrow skin

#

I wanna know his impact in genji and hanzo

swift geode
#

Guys I found some huge holes in this Overwatch's story Mainly tracer's and widow's

fathom tartan
#

sigh

#

What is it

swift geode
#

You didnt get the joke did you

peak escarp
#

what joke?

fathom tartan
#

Ah

#

A shitpost

#

Wait

#

Six

#

How come you aren't accomplished anymore

peak escarp
#

must have ended

fathom tartan
#

Oh

#

"Moving swiftly onwards"

fathom tartan
#

Was there any story behind sigma's legacy event

peak escarp
#

nope

fathom tartan
#

Okay then

#

Hey off topic but dosent this server have 1 actual blizzard team member

cerulean ice
#

there are but i strictly recommend to not bother them

fathom tartan
#

I think they're like legally not post to tell us anything anyway

cerulean ice
#

depending on the context

#

but they dont have a reason to do so anyways

teal meadow
#

New sombra interactions and they teased mauga

#

I'm so happy

cerulean ice
#

this pretty much confirms hes alive (maybe)

#

but it has been heavily implied anyways

teal meadow
#

and that he is a real threat

limpid agate
#

We knew that already

rain star
limpid agate
#

We knew he wasn't dead.

  • He does not die on screen.
  • On the same page that Mauga disappears, Baptiste says he is pretty sure he survived.
  • The devs confirmed they plan on revisiting Mauga as a hero.
rain star
limpid agate
rain star
#

???????

peak escarp
#

that link is dead

rain star
#

ok

#

i just wanna know why its in lore discussion

peak escarp
#

it was a clip of when Jeff mentions they want to revisit Mauga as a hero

rain star
#

o

peak escarp
#

generally when a character is dead, they don't leave any possibility of them being alive (Sojiro Shimada, Mondatta, Antonio, Dr. Harold Winston, etc.)

#

with Mauga, the possibility was there immediately

peak escarp
#

Hanzo and Genji's father

rain star
#

o

#

he was bitch in my opinion

peak escarp
#

we don't know much about him

rain star
#

we know he raised one son to be a crime boss and the other was bassiacly neglected

#

good enough for me

peak escarp
#

well he was a crime boss himself

#

he was just training Hanzo to take his place

limpid agate
#

Genji was the neglectful one

#

Not the other way around

fathom tartan
#

His father also told some pretty cool stories from what we can hear

#

Is the dragons story 1 of his father's btw

#

Or is that just like a shamda story that just been vibing in the family

#

Also

#

Did other family members of the shamda clan have dragons too

#

Or are the same technically three passed down

rain star
#

another question , this one probably no answer

#

how much shimada blood=dragon or are they all inbreds with 100% shimada blood

fathom tartan
#

Uhhhh

#

Probably not 100% shamda

rain star
#

or is it like something you can learn and thats why echos says WHEE DRAGONS GO BRRRRR

fathom tartan
#

Okay echo cant actually do all that's stuff

rain star
#

echo ult as genji/hanzo

fathom tartan
#

That's a in game thing

#

The game is outside of lore

rain star
#

we've never seen her duplicate but weve also never seen her deny she can

fathom tartan
#

Echo is an enhanced mimicking ai

rain star
#

yes

fathom tartan
#

She adopts the personally and style of who see watches

rain star
#

but ingame she says she actually has designated parts for duplication

rain star
fathom tartan
#

Dragons arnt learned

rain star
#

echo does dragons tho

peak escarp
#

I think her duplication looks more like her sprays than an actual transformation

teal meadow
rain star
teal meadow
#

Was he?

rain star
#

ithink that was his elders

#

idk, im hoping to find out new things with latest map

fathom tartan
#

Well genji disrecepected the clan it was hanzo's "duty"to kill genji

rain star
#

yes yes it was. someone decided that tho

teal meadow
#

So it wasn't their father to order hanzo?

peak escarp
rain star
#

i mean hanzo doesnt go around killing every non-shimada

rain star
peak escarp
teal meadow
# peak escarp

Basically echo just copies the abilities and not the entire body structure, right?

peak escarp
fathom tartan
#

We haven't seen much action of echo

rain star
#

dragons are most certainly an ability

fathom tartan
#

No you cant learn them

teal meadow
#

So, when she copies winston what would use? Giant arms made by hard light?

fathom tartan
#

I suppose

peak escarp
#

she has a spray for that too

fathom tartan
#

Or just hit like him

peak escarp
rain star
#

have the sparay but no pic

#

yes thx

teal meadow
#

Seems like she controls the hologram there

rain star
fathom tartan
#

We can say anything for certain till we see her use it in a cinematic

rain star
#

perhaps its like donning a costume

peak escarp
#

ignore the "hologram"

rain star
#

cinematic

peak escarp
#

it would just be Echo acting like Winston

teal meadow
#

If i ignore the hologram, i can't see how she would be able to go berserk to the enemy like winston

rain star
#

maybe, but one of echos voice lines for a normal meelee kill is that shes glad she watched winston

fathom tartan
#

Dont be dumb

rain star
peak escarp
#

she hasn't had one dedicated to herself yet

rain star
peak escarp
#

Widowmaker

teal meadow
#

Yeah, she's one of the few people that came back. Of course she's gonna appear again. Expecially in a story mission

peak escarp
#

Reaper, Winston

rain star
#

o nvm mei does that 2

teal meadow
#

And zero hour

peak escarp
#

a few have had multiple appearances

#

and Mei

rain star
#

idr widow being in 0 hour

teal meadow
#

I meant echo

peak escarp
#

Widow was in Alive and Infiltration

rain star
peak escarp
#

you don't have to ping me with every reply

rain star
#

sry

peak escarp
#

Reaper was in the cinematic trailer, Recall and Infiltration
Winston was in the cinematic trailer, Recall and Zero Hour

rain star
#

yes yes i get it

peak escarp
#

it's likely Echo will be seen in another cinematic

teal meadow
#

Reaper was in most animated short

rain star
#

0 hour is a trailer for ow2 does it count as a cinematic

peak escarp
#

yes

rain star
#

i should check out ow1 trailer

peak escarp
#

it's a bit outdated

rain star
#

hm

#

welp ima go on a diff. chat

terse oar
#

There have been speculations of an OW2 hero being teased in the Kanezaka graffiti WinstonThink

#

I wonder if it’ll be true

fathom tartan
#

Bro I saw that video and I was built for that character

teal meadow
#

You're a fox. So, obviously

safe drift
#

Question about roadhog

#

What's that yellow stuff he breathes

peak escarp
#

Hogdrogen

#

it's to treat his radiation poisoning

safe drift
#

Oh so he basically needs it to stay alive

#

No wonder there's so much in junkertown

arctic loom
#

so are the queen of junkertown a villain?

rain star
#

i thot hogdrogen was for his asthma, and surviving randon nuclear mech explosions

fading coyote
#

Which is the catch phrase of Reinhardt?

vocal nymph
#

I think the new map is hinting at a new fox girl character with connections to the Shimada clan. Maybe an assassin. My theory so far

proud pike
#

or wdym by ''catch phrase''?

fading coyote
#

I'm think the catch phrase it's one than he dont have in the voice lines

valid terrace
#

Live with honor, die with glory

limpid agate
#

For Kanezaka speculation, my top thoughts are:

  • Pottery Class
  • Brit
  • Dive bar
  • Weapon smith
  • Only as a last resort speculation, generic fox/cat imagery
#

For what is related to the teasing Jeff talked about

#

That being said... No one said it was a new hero

#

It could be that Hanzo is masquerading as the owner of a pottery class to hide from his assassin's

#

Or the weapon smith is someone who made The Dragonblade

#

Maybe Hanzo and Genji reunite again in the nightclub

fathom tartan
#

Well to that person that said maybe an assassin hanzo did say in dragons that multiple assassins we're sent on him

#

Wait

#

Who tf is the announcer in dragons

peak escarp
#

Sojiro Shimada

fathom tartan
#

Oh okay

#

Thank you

#

The shamda family really has some epic foreshadowing stories they didn't care to pay close attention to

maiden gorge
#

I want to say sojiro is hanz i and genji’s dad?

#

Hanzo*

cerulean ice
#

yes

peak escarp
#

yep

maiden gorge
#

Brit could be one of dva’s teamates

#

If she also pilots a mech

peak escarp
#

we've seen D.Va's teammates

maiden gorge
#

But like a lost one

peak escarp
cerulean ice
#

i was abt to send that pic

peak escarp
#

Brit is from here

maiden gorge
#

What the hell is that

peak escarp
#

it's a part of the original pitch for Overwatch

maiden gorge
#

Huh

peak escarp
#

the dev team put together hero concepts

#

some of them became heroes

#

most of them were just reused art from failed projects

fathom tartan
#

Nah I want mama Hong

maiden gorge
#

I know the hanzo story

#

He was originally both of the combined right

#

Them*

peak escarp
#

yes

cerulean ice
#

thats a hero concept origin

fathom tartan
#

Ow cinematics are soo nice

peak escarp
#

Hanzo and Genji was originally one character

fathom tartan
#

Their team for that is so good

maiden gorge
#

Mama Hong

peak escarp
#

but his kit felt overloaded so they split it

cerulean ice
maiden gorge
#

funne funne

fathom tartan
#

Tbh I'd like to have bastion's bird do something like ability wise maybe in ow2 story

maiden gorge
#

HELL YEAH

#

Bird laxer

#

Laser

#

Laser

#

Laser

#

Not whatever the hell that was

cerulean ice
#

eh

fathom tartan
#

No like he pecks you till interrupted if health is below 20% or something

maiden gorge
#

Bird laxer is just massive bird shit lol

fathom tartan
#

All you have to do is melee to get him off

maiden gorge
#

That’s the ability

cerulean ice
#

not everything has to be an ability, also discuss about lore ZenDisappointed

fathom tartan
#

Uh

#

Birb

maiden gorge
#

Like subnautica leeches

fathom tartan
#

Bastion have birb

maiden gorge
#

Dbdbebbe

fathom tartan
#

Brig have cat

#

A really big cat

maiden gorge
#

YES

#

And she can throw it

#

And it attaches to face

fathom tartan
#

Like what wrong with that cat

maiden gorge
#

And can’t see

fathom tartan
#

It's so just chunky

peak escarp
#

it's just a large cat

fathom tartan
#

Must be from the same part if germay rein is from

#

Everything is just massive there

peak escarp
maiden gorge
#

HammondSqueak and this is just a large rat

fathom tartan
#

Wtf

#

Who's is that

#

It scary big

peak escarp
#

it's a Maine Coon

maiden gorge
#

kätt

peak escarp
#

the largest breed of domestic cat

maiden gorge
#

I wants me one o this

#

Those

peak escarp
#

just to show that cats absolutely can get that big

maiden gorge
#

Dog Kat

#

lütbøx

fathom tartan
#

Briggs cat is bigger than orisa puppy

maiden gorge
#

What no way

#

What are their names tho

peak escarp
#

I think Brigitte's cat is Mitzi (Chu mentioned that the Lindholm's white cat is named Mitzi)

maiden gorge
#

I was actually asking a question thank you for taking it seriously

#

Anyway gtg

peak escarp
#

I take every question seriously

maiden gorge
#

Have fun answering the community

fathom tartan
#

She does

terse oar
#

Brigitte’s cat is a Norwegian Forest cat I believe

peak escarp
#

those are also very large

fathom tartan
#

Its probably bigger than torb on its legs

terse oar
#

Honestly yeah

#

Probably about the same size

peak escarp
terse oar
#

That looks about right

peak escarp
#

majestic

terse oar
#

Indeed BrigitteSmile

fathom tartan
#

Except brigg's is full white

terse oar
#

It’s around the same size though

#

And it both originated and is popular in Northern Europe

fathom tartan
#

Yep

#

I'm sad ow2 gonna be longer wait

limpid agate
#

You will have all the important information you need at Blizzconline

fathom tartan
#

Oh hey its you

#

Can you put all the lines for genji and hanzo in

limpid agate
#

What

fathom tartan
#

I want you to put in the thing for all a hero's lines

cerulean ice
#

lines?

#

cant u just search for that

fathom tartan
#

But for hanzo and genji

limpid agate
#

!!wiki Hanzo/Quotes

twilit nacelleBOT
limpid agate
#

!!wiki Genji/Quotes

twilit nacelleBOT
fathom tartan
#

There we go

cerulean ice
#

exactly..?

#

..

terse oar
#

I didn’t even know that was a command ZenDisappointed

cerulean ice
#

!!wiki Its_a_command

twilit nacelleBOT
fathom tartan
#

When is ow2 coming my hunger for lore and cool cinematics is crippling

peak escarp
#

we'll learn more in 2 months

fathom tartan
#

Blizzcon better have a cinematic

terse oar
#

Feb 19

#

It probably will

peak escarp
#

there's also 2 more issues of the Tracer comic coming

fathom tartan
#

Oh yeah

#

I should really read those short stories

#

But like

#

There long

#

And plain text is so hard to read

peak escarp
#

well the comics are comics

terse oar
#

The short stories are about maybe 10-15 minutes each if you read slow

peak escarp
#

the short stories aren't that long

terse oar
#

I recommend either “Stone By Stone” or “What You Left Behind”

fathom tartan
#

My imagination is left to make the scean thought

#

And my imagination has plot holes

terse oar
#

They have a few pictures

#

If that helps

fathom tartan
#

Maybe I'll go it tomorrow

#

*do

terse oar
#

“What You Left Behind” is probably gonna be one you want anyway since Mauga is most likely going to be a new hero with OW2

fathom tartan
#

I know the main gist of all of them

terse oar
#

It’s nice to look at the details again ReaperShrug

fathom tartan
#

Except valkyrie was explained to me poorly

#

Also

#

I should try getting hero of numbani

#

How long is that btw

peak escarp
#

293 pages

fathom tartan
#

Fuck me

peak escarp
#

it's a proper novel

terse oar
#

Lol

fathom tartan
#

IS tHEre PictUreS?

peak escarp
#

not really

fathom tartan
#

Damn

peak escarp
#

each chapter ends with what is basically an Instagram post made by Efi

#

showing her progress

fathom tartan
#

Oh

#

Think I can find an audiobook to read along with

#

Oh

#

I definitely can

#

Tbh I want alot of extra overwatch media but ik that could be asking alot of voice actors

peak escarp
#

that's kinda their job

#

it's just up to Blizzard to pay them

fathom tartan
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Yeah

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But like imagine being asked to do stuff like shows

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On top of the game

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Especially once story is out

peak escarp
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again, that's their job

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they'd be happy to do more work

fathom tartan
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Probably

worthy rose
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So apparently there’s a lot of hidden lore to the new free-for-all map

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Below hanamura

peak escarp
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yep

worthy rose
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Any theories?