Question: Is Sombra the same girl that Solider 76 saved in his animated video?
#lore-discussion
worthy rose
swift mason
Nope
worthy rose
How so?
worthy rose
Makes sense
iron plume
Hero is set in the present time
The little girl is a little girl
Sombra is 30
we also see both of them in Searching
worthy rose
Cool
zenith prawn
Isn't the girl named like Alexandria or something?
peak escarp
Alejandra
cosmic crest
Same name, different language.
peak escarp
Zarya (Aleksandra) bonds with Alejandra over having the same name
dusky dagger
Can someone give me a TL;DR of the Symmetra story?
worthy rose
It’s as doctor six said, Vishkar accidentally destroys an important statue, they send Symmetra to find the best way to make reparations, she lives in the temple with Zenyatta for a week learning their way of life and what is important to the omnics, she ends up repairing the statue beautifully and being accepted by the village
peak escarp
you really should read it, it's a wonderful story
dusky dagger
Let me guess. Symmetra is a robosexual?
peak escarp
no
worthy rose
lol
peak escarp
Symmetra makes friends with Zenyatta and learns that omnics are more than just machines
worthy rose
i'm half way through it now and i gotta say
this is pretty fucking good.
and it makes me wonder if, considering OW2 will have a story, sym will leave vishkar finally. the part where she lists what she's done to help but then her inner monologue says like, luxury condomoniums/resorts and shit
she seems pretty aware in this that vishkar isn't for the greater good
and i think having her and zenyatta communicate like this is a pretty good move on the writers part
this makes me a smidge more hopeful for the future of OW lore
peak escarp
she knows Vishkar is a corporation and their primary interest is capitalism, but she's trying to make a better world
and part of what Vishkar does does make the world a better place
but it's a side effect, not the main goal
terse oar
So a lot of people have noticed that there’s a new map on the menu screen for the Sym challenge...
Is it possible that we could get India as a map now rather than OW2?
valid terrace
Unlikely
limpid agate
Now? No
limpid agate
Its most likely the unnamed India map they showed off at Blizzcon 2019
timid eagle
peak escarp
it also seems to be where Genji is fighting Talon grunts in the gameplay trailer
peak escarp
it was shown during one of the panels at Blizzcon last year
cerulean ice
coolio
last inlet
Yeah right now it's only used for the title screen while the challenge is up. Same with the music
oh wait you said menu screen
I thought you meant the trailer, oops lol
zenith prawn
Do we know or suspect what the giant floating ring ship is supposed to be?
limpid agate
I think its related to Vishkar
jolly nova
possible avengers infinity war collab
cerulean ice
never.
unreal tartan
Is that sym and zen lore I see?
worthy rose
yes
candid sundial
I have a question about the lore. So why do teams do 6v6s? Like friends like tracer and Winston try to kill eachother.
young knoll
gameplay is not lore relevant
young knoll
no, that is just the response
lavish elm
gusty sluice
did the new story reveal that symm was truly a good person?
cerulean ice
symm always had good intentions, its just that vishkar is keeping her doing that way
tame nest
I mean, it's also them not so subtly saying she's on the spectrum.
peak escarp
that was already confirmed a while ago
tame nest
Yeah, but it's nice to see it represented "officially"
stoic sail
last inlet
Yeah, and afterwards I think someone wrote to the OW team to see if her talking about being "on the spectrum" meant she was autistic, and they sent a letter reply saying it did
peak escarp
violet kayak
How to get things signed by Jeff Kaplan for free Step 1: send Overwatch and letter Step 2: hope they find it and answer
thick jetty
I have a question, why did they give the doomfist to the bad guys like the scourge of numbani and present doomfist
why did they allow the next owners to be them
terse oar
They didn’t really allow the next owners to be them, they took it
The present Doomfist literally killed the Scourge and took it
gusty rock
lucio gets hit by car : D
last inlet
I don't think the first Doomfist had anything to do with the second. At the least, the gauntlet isn't even the same
terse oar
The gauntlet is the same, but has been modified over the years
We don’t know how the Scourge had gotten it though
last inlet
Weren't there 3?
limpid agate
Yes
limpid agate
Its implied the same happened between the Scourge and the Savior
limpid agate
Probably
peak escarp
it has evolved and been added to over the years
worthy rose
ping me if u have zen lore
limpid agate
@worthy rose Read the short story
worthy rose
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hollow harbor
does anyone have recommendation on what is the best overwatch anthology book to buy?
im trying to catch up on lore and really only know the lore of the last year and half
also is hero of numbani a good read?
swift mason
Hero of numbani is a nice read, I’d recommend it. Also, all the comics are free on the OW website, so you dont really have to pay for anything (other than HoN)
hollow harbor
okay, that's great news then, I'll give it a go! 🙂 thank u
thorn wadi
Genji vs Hanzo. I did research and genji can deflect hanzs ult
terse oar
Yes. It was shown in the “Dragons” cinematic
terse oar
!!Shitposting
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
limpid agate
Hanzo's dragons behave identically to her orbs in the lore, and look visually similar too.
Hero of Numbani and Stone By Stone also confirmed that Hard Light comes in different colours, like Green and Gold
And it is a common tech, its used for barriers, so its not exclusive to Vishkar.
raven sluice
Hard light?
It’s a spirit
Unless there is some kickass tattoos in the future that can summon dragons
raven sluice
And even then, only a shimada can control the dragons
peak escarp
family proprietary tech
raven sluice
So how did they get their hands on it
peak escarp
what does Vishkar have to do with it?
raven sluice
Vishkar invented the damn thing right
peak escarp
Vishkar didn't invent hard light
cerulean ice
they didnt
raven sluice
Then who did?
peak escarp
they just used it better
limpid agate
@raven sluice I feel like you ignored everything I wrote past the first line
peak escarp
it's like how Apple isn't the company that invented computers
limpid agate
It's 100% not magic. We were explicitly told it's not magic.
Fun fact, Xerox invented the PC
peak escarp
they didn't invent hard light, they just did unique things with it
other groups did other things
raven sluice
Ok then
raven sluice
I’m almost certain it’s spirits though
The only thing that would convince me is if echos form changing is revealed as canon
limpid agate
How is that relevant
cerulean ice
it most certainly is
its been said that her duplication is the "biggest part" of her character
raven sluice
Ok then
limpid agate
@cerulean ice Her adaptation and replication of skills
peak escarp
her duplication isn't literal
raven sluice
I still think it’s canon
peak escarp
she doesn't actually become people
cerulean ice
it isnt im aware
peak escarp
her duplication ability has nothing to do with the dragons
valid terrace
They mean that she could control them without being a Shimada 
They aren't spirits
We are explicitly told there is no magic in Overwatch
It's probably in the tattoos some form of hard light emitter that only Sojiro would be crazy enough to think was a good idea
When you can just buy hard light emitting shields or gauntlets
So no one but the Shimadas would even bother
And Genji controlling Hanzo's means it's the same tech for both of them that let's them control the dragons
cerulean ice
idk thats kinda lame considering this is one of the more weird mysteries
it being hardlight doesnt convince me but is the only logical reason
peak escarp
why does nobody get this hung up on how the chronal accelerator works?
that's not explained either
cerulean ice
the dragons are more obvious but yes thats weird too
peak escarp
we do have an explanation for why Widowmaker is blue . . . except that's not how biology works at all
slowing her heart would make her lethargic and dead, not void of emotions and good at sniping
cerulean ice
everyone just accepted that -- "oh shes blue because slow heart rate yes"
peak escarp
right
so Blizzard can make up whatever explanation they want
and so far their explanation for the dragons is "they aren't magic"
last inlet
Because the other stuff is at least "this is what it is", not "this is what it definitely isn't"
People wanna know what the Dragons are, not what it ain't. I guess.
peak escarp
why is "this is what it is" accepted but "this is what it isn't" not?
last inlet
That's how people's minds work I guess
peak escarp
but people refuse to accept that it isn't magic
last inlet
They can accept that "this exists in this universe, can't get into details tho" more than "its not magic but idk what it is, it might be this maybe but 🤷♂️"
People refuse to believe it's not magic when we've been told it's not though,
I have a feeling people don't know it's been stated that it's not magic
So when people who don't work with the game say it, it just seems like speculation
peak escarp
it should be obvious that it isn't magic, even without it being said
nothing else in the OW universe is magic
there has never been any evidence of magic existing
last inlet
And some people don't know that it's not magic, when it seemingly has no other explanation in the game and the lore that's easy to find
They're called dragon spirits aren't they?
peak escarp
when the setting is near future earth, it would be more logical to assume that magic doesn't exist until proven otherwise
rather than the other way around
last inlet
Something like the dragons kinda flies in the face of that, especially the way the Shimada themselves talk about it
I wouldn't be surprised if people didn't have any reason to consider magic in OW until they saw the Shimada with their dragons
At least on the surface.
worthy rose
Where can I read the Symmetra short story?
worthy rose
Thanks!
cobalt vortex
I think roadhog has a criminal record of child abuse
iron plume
And why do you think that?
frail oxide
Maybe that is why he likes the pachimaris.he wasn't allowed or was too poor to get one as a kid.
peak escarp
there's plenty of reasons he could like them
including no reason at all
he could just like them because he likes them
raven sluice
@frail oxide I like the way you think
limpid agate
Before making weird theories like that
Its worth noting that the Crisis happened when he was a teenager
proud pike
And I think that his love for pachimari is made in order to simply create an image of such a "big dude, with a little secret" for him
I mean, it is kinda cute
he's a hireling, but he's a human first and foremost
I don't think we should look for any deep meaning in this.
iron plume
that is almost certainly the real explanation
cosmic crest
Then why are you here?
proud pike
over watch sucks no lie
vague onyx
I was just kidding
also you can make fun of me all you want I justed started the game and I a gold in dps
peak escarp
nobody cares about rank here
or even playing the game
this is the lore discussion channel
worthy rose
Can someone explain sigmas lore?
terse oar
Sigma was a renowned astrophysicist, who was taken to a government facility after an experiment went wrong, giving him gravitational powers. After being locked in exile for a while, Talon freed him and is now manipulating him for their own gain. He is unaware of being used.
@worthy rose
limpid agate
!!Loreheroes sigma
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/sigma#story
hard sinew
I'm not 100% sure but I think that's the music they used to brainwash him
peak escarp
he wasn't brainwashed
the music is something only he can hear
probably caused by his brain damage, also probably a reference to the musica universalis
terse oar
The music is most likely a mental hallucination (although Sigma himself is not mentally ill)
cosmic crest
I thinking having auditory hallucinations very much classifies as being mentally ill.
hushed jetty
I believe Michael Chu, or someone, stated that Sigma is not supposed to have a mental illness, even though it seems like he does
terse oar
It was Michael Chu I believe
peak escarp
auditory hallucinations are a symptom commonly linked to mental illness
but they can be caused by other things
cosmic crest
I don't know why they would shut down the idea he has a mental illness since that would be a very unique character trait to have.
But perhaps they are open to the idea.
peak escarp
I think they didn't want the one hero with mental illness to be a bad guy
terse oar
^^
cosmic crest
He's not really a bad guy though.
terse oar
People outside of the game complain about anything either way
peak escarp
he's on the bad guy side, close enough
tbh people will complain about anything regardless
terse oar
Some media outlets had complained how he was a white male, or how Echo was too feminine
peak escarp
I think they also wanted to avoid assigning him any real-world conditions, to avoid making generalizations or getting it wrong - saying he was damaged by his accident avoids having to give it a name
worthy rose
meow
proud pike
?
trim haven
Some media outlets had complained how he was a white male, or how Echo was too f...
complaining about echo being too feminine?
have they seen widow lmao
terse oar
It’s even more ignorant when considering that it’s part of her lore
She’s supposed to be an echo of Dr. Liao
peak escarp
she was designed according to what Liao wanted her to look like, so we can conclude then that she liked feminine beauty?
idk it's hard to give characters agency when their choices were still written by others (usually men)
cosmic crest
Maybe she just wanted Echo to be pretty.
peak escarp
nothing wrong with that
worthy rose
limpid agate
!!shitposting @rose moon
twilit nacelleBOT
@rose moon Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
limpid agate
Tylenol is also a blood thinner. It would probably kill her.
Or am I thinking of Asprin?
peak escarp
yeah
unreal tartan
Is there a new comic coming this month?
grand wedge
left mulch
does anyone knows the story of roadhog?
peak escarp
he's a former ALF fighter turned enforcer who works for Junkrat
astral coral
"After the Omnic Crisis, government officials gifted the Australian omnium and the surrounding area to the omnics that had nearly destroyed their country, hoping to establish a long-term peace accord. This arrangement permanently displaced Mako Rutledge and a large number of the Outback's residents, a scattered collection of survivalists, solar farmers, and people who just wanted to be left alone.
Furious over the loss of their homes, Mako and the others turned to violent rebellion. They formed the Australian Liberation Front and struck against the omnium and its robot population to take back the lands that had been stolen. Events continued to escalate until the rebels sabotaged the omnium's fusion core, resulting in an explosion that destroyed the facility, irradiated the region, and littered the Outback with twisted metal and wreckage for kilometers around.
Mako watched as his home became an apocalyptic wasteland, and he was forever changed.
Adapting to his environment, he donned a mask and took to the broken highways of the Outback on his ramshackle chopper. Little by little, his humanity was forgotten. The last vestiges of Mako faded away and the ruthless killer Roadhog was born."
not sure if that's accurate but it's what i could find
peak escarp
you just pasted his whole bio
peak escarp
how
astral coral
what do you mean
astral coral
oh not sure, I just joined this server so if I don't talk for a while you know why
limpid agate
Looking at the publication dates for the comics
I think they were planning on releasing them after Blizzcon
London Calling 1 is printed in December, 2 in January, and 3 in Feb
But we are getting them digitally 3 months in advance
peak escarp
probably
misty haven
yo check out the pickable icons in your battlenet client and see some of the characters as icons you can pick. I noticed that icons get added when a new character is about to come out but there are icons of people I don't even know from overwatch....
arctic loom
wait we have new icons?
proud pike
yes
arctic loom
didnt saw that
proud pike
I think he is talking about Mauga
arctic loom
oh mauga is there
valid terrace
Liao
desert yarrow
O ok
arctic loom
yeah
limpid agate
The non-heroes are, in order:
Efi - Katya Volskaya - Liao
Bob - Maximilien - Timmy - Dr. Junkenstein - Mauga
proud pike
I really want* a pfp with that guy in the hoodie from the announcement cinematic.
I dunno his name
limpid agate
Brian
proud pike
yeah
limpid agate
Mauga is popular
arctic loom
no doubt he going be the next tank
limpid agate
They already more or less confirmed him.
misty haven
yeah only one i dont know is "mauga" I dont know where he fits in but prob something with bap lore
looks like him
cerulean ice
thats because he is in bap's lore.
misty haven
next tank you think eh?
cerulean ice
supposedly but didnt fit and sigma was made instead
misty haven
i think next character or soon to be character will be the omnic at the end of short that is talking to doomfist
cerulean ice
hes likely a tank though if he ever becomes a hero that is
misty haven
the one played on brewery map
what is that called
the dom rumbotico event
the omnic with dreads that talks to doom at the very end im thinking is next hero which will be from talon
peak escarp
Storm Rising
misty haven
yeah
boutta find a pic
cant link it apparently
welp
this is the end cutscene tho
peak escarp
we know the one
he's probably going to be the main villain for the story missions of OW2
hushed jetty
Why did they make a dr. Junkenstein pfp
peak escarp
because halloween
untold rapids
Dr. Junkenstein is cool too
worthy rose
How many of those tracer comics we got
swift mason
possibly this wednesday, or thursday if ur in a different timezone
worthy rose
Mk just wondering
night zephyr
ahh what was the worst lore
peak escarp
the worst lore is that the scientists on Horizon Lunar Colony decided to test out their genetic enhancements on a hamster
swift mason
I guess they got bored of the apes and wanted to spice things up in the lab
by using a hamster instead
peak escarp
it's still stupid
swift mason
Yeah
peak escarp
I hate that it makes sense
if Dr. Harold Winston weren't dead I'd be very mad at him
swift mason
I think everyone was expecting hammond to be an ape when he was teased, but once it was revealed
worthy rose
Why would you be mad at Harold?
worthy rose
Oh
swift mason
I'd kinda be more mad if Harold actually survived the ape uprising since his suit isn't there, that would be stupid
peak escarp
that would be stupid
proud pike
trim scroll
Guys I have some top secret zen lore
proud pike
?
proud pike
And?
trim scroll
Did you know that zen can heal his teammates
proud pike
trim scroll
Nope
trim scroll
Wait do people actually get mad ???
hard sinew
not mad but people will warn u
swift mason
Yeah I'd refrain from shitposting here. So, u got any lore questions you want to know?
Quite a bit of us here know the ins & outs of the lore
patent cargo
even if your pfp is star platinum
drowsy matrix
I love Mark Twain
drowsy matrix
Mark Twain
peak escarp
!!loreonly @drowsy matrix
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spice eagle
who tf is that
peak escarp
because he's never mentioned anywhere in the lore
peak escarp
no
trim scroll
What is zennyata
peak escarp
he's an omnic monk
peak escarp
omnics are robots
trim scroll
Oh ok
peak escarp
monks are followers of a certain faith
trim scroll
I know what a monk is 😂
Why does Reinhardt dress like he’s from the 1200s
Is he from the 1200s and time travelled or something
trim scroll
Oh
peak escarp
it looks like that because the Crusaders like the "knight in shining armor" aesthetic
peak escarp
what do you mean?
peak escarp
I knew a kid in elementary school who was huge like that
cosmic crest
I think he is overweight in addition to being naturally very large.
peak escarp
he likes cute things
trim scroll
Cute
peak escarp
like pigs and pachimari
peak escarp
no
trim scroll
Why can she fly tho
peak escarp
she has a suit with wings that lets her fly
trim scroll
Oh
peak escarp
called the Valkyrie swift response suit
cosmic crest
Roadhog strikes me as the kind of guy that likes animals more than people.
peak escarp
Reaper kinda does
trim scroll
Oh yeah
peak escarp
76 is a supersoldier
trim scroll
Yes
peak escarp
Sigma can manipulate gravity
trim scroll
Oh
peak escarp
but most of the abilities come from weapons or gadgets or tech
trim scroll
Oh ok thanks
cosmic crest
Does Tracer count? Her chronal disassociation is a part of her but she needs her chronal accelerator to use it effectively.
trim scroll
What’s that disassociate thing
cosmic crest
A part of her backstory. She was a test pilot for a teleporting jet named the Slipstream. There was an accident of some sort and she was trapped in time.
peak escarp
she's disconnected from the normal flow of time - the chronal accelerator keeps her anchored
trim scroll
That’s awesome
peak escarp
without it, she skips around like a needle jumping on a record
cosmic crest
Err, no.
terse oar
Just a friend
trim scroll
Oh ok
valid terrace
He made the device to save her
cosmic crest
He invented the chronal accelerator that keeps her anchored.
trim scroll
I meant a father figure
valid terrace
Doesn't seem like it
trim scroll
Ok
valid terrace
If anyone, probably Soldier
cosmic crest
I have a theory that he invented the Slipstream too so he would feel responsible for her condition, but that's not confirmed.
trim scroll
How would he have invented it wasn’t he in space
valid terrace
He was on Earth at that time
peak escarp
if Winston worked on the Slipstream, him being able to reverse engineer a fix would make more sense
rather than just him making one out of nowhere
trim scroll
He was on Earth at that time
Oh ok
cosmic crest
I think it would create a nice dynamic in their friendship too.
trim scroll
Yes
cosmic crest
Winston feeling bad about it but Tracer not blaming him.
terse oar
Hammond was part of the Horizon Lunar Colony experiments
trim scroll
Same as monke?
terse oar
Yes
trim scroll
So they’re both big brain ?
peak escarp
yes
terse oar
Hammond escaped though by grappling onto Winston’s escape pod
peak escarp
only Hammond can't speak, so he built a mech that can speak for him
worthy rose
ג
hushed jetty
There are a lot of characters in the game without relation to Overwatch or Talon
The junkers, symmetra....
peak escarp
they may have a connection in the future
fickle canopy
ya maybe in a update or sum
fickle canopy
hog and junkrat
peak escarp
yes
limpid agate
then how she in the game of overwatch
she got no relation
Of the 32 heroes in Overwatch (the game), only 15 of them were in Overwatch (the organization), past or present.
When Overwatch 1 launched, only 10 of the original 21 were members of Overwatch.
Its consistently been only about half the cast for a while now
fickle canopy
ya its weird
iron cliff
WE WANT BASTION LORE
terse oar
Don’t forget “Binary” as well
cerulean ice
theres really not much for bastion since everything was explained in his cinematic
he just lives with torb now currently
raven sluice
So is that tracer comic out yet?
north patio
theres really not much for bastion since everything was explained in his cinemat...
Yupp
If you want a little more lore, there's a torb comic which tells the story of how he met bastion
cobalt gyro
Is Bastion gay?
rain echo
how a robot could have gender
valid terrace
Some of the robots clearly want to be seen a certain way
Most well known Orisa and Echo
valid terrace
They would probably be confused if you used male pronouns with them
proud pike
how a robot could have gender
Orisa (she), Echo (she), Iggy (she), Zenyatta (he), Mondatta (he), Aurora (she), Athena (she), Maximilien (he), Bob (he), Bastion (?). Technically, they're all robots, but nevertheless, they bind themselves to a certain gender.
rain echo
Orisa (she), Echo (she), Iggy (she), Zenyatta (he), Mondatta (he), Aurora (she),...
who is iggy?
valid terrace
London Calling bot
proud pike
There is no matter of opinion there.
ma bad
hushed jetty
Wait is lynx canonically gender neutral or is this something we all kind of assumed?
And if it's canon, where was this said?
limpid agate
Canon, Twitter
hushed jetty
Ah okay
Very cool, Blizzard
peak escarp
left mulch
"After the Omnic Crisis, government officials gifted the Australian omnium and t...
ty, a bit late
spice eagle
wait, what piece of lore said that soldier was gay??
iron plume
Bastet
worthy rose
Bastion has no concept of gender or sexuality
can we agree bastion is a bastion and keep it at that lol
proud pike
It is Bastion
valid terrace
Sure
trim haven
Bastion doesn't have a gender
@peak escarp ACTUALLY Ana calls bastion a gender-specific name whenever she nanoes a bastion
Although I don't actually remember what gender she says but it's definitely a gender
cosmic crest
I've never heard of this. As far as I know she has the same ult line for every hero.
magic perch
mhm
But also Bastion could be German as I think his model was first deployed in... Kings Row... maybe he's British?
hmmmmm
Help me here!
grand wedge
@trim haven In France, Bastion is an HE , simply because we don't have an IT equivalent. It is that simple 
. But canonically, Bastion's pronoun is it.
nova nova
Why are we trying to gender a turret 😂
trim haven
@cosmic crest nah Arabic has nouns for he and she but not it, so things are either male or female, I know this because I can speak it
For example, when she nanoes a female hero, she uses a different noun than the one she uses for a male hero
rain echo
glacial terrace
I assume this is enemy ana?
trim haven
you guys are also missing out on how much of a mom Ana is when you can actually understand what she says
@glacial terrace friendly
glacial terrace
No that's what she says if you're ana
Otherwise it's "nano-boost administered"
Or switch can't remember
Enemy ana (according to a quick google search) does actually gender the recipient
trim haven
yep
glacial terrace
Warīhum quwitak! for males
Warīhum quwitik! for females
Never actually noticed a difference but I'll listen for it now 😂
trim haven
She also says some very traditional motherly sayings when you respawn as her
glacial terrace
Lisah fī nās lāzim aḥmīhum.
Al-tikrār yʻalim al-shuṭār.
It'll take more than that to keep me out of the fight.
Old soldiers are hard to kill.
Huh, I've come back from worse.
This is much better than a cabana on the beach.```:)
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Ana/Quotes
For all your ana quote needs
I gotchu homie
rain echo
ooooh
spice eagle
for nano boost, ana says her line in 2 different tones depending on gender
glacial terrace
Yeah if you read up like 5 messages we were talking about that xD
spice eagle
yeah, i was just clarifying
glacial terrace
:D
trim haven
I'm pretty sure there's an additional one not listed there
وقت الامتحان يكرم المرء أو يهان
Or
spice eagle
or
trim haven
waqt alaimtihan yukarim almar' 'aw yuhan
peak escarp
did you just "well actually" me?
we call ships "she", that doesn't mean they're actually female
iron plume
Arabic doesn't have a neuter grammatical gender
So it's impossible for her to call anyone an "it", and female is the default one
unborn owl
huh, TIL.
proud pike
Symmetra's photon barrier, canon or nah?
peak escarp
we never saw her use it
peak escarp
but she could probably make something like that
proud pike
Thx
swift mason
So would LC#3 be coming out tomorrow? (wednesday/thursday depending on timezone)
swift mason
Makes sense, since next week is december
fathom spear
soldier x reaper anyone?
peak escarp
!!shitposting @fathom spear
twilit nacelleBOT
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fathom spear
whats that
proud pike
Thats a warning
swift mason
No shipping
fathom spear
this is lore
fathom spear
in lore 76 is gay tho
peak escarp
yes
proud pike
yes
peak escarp
but Reaper isn't
swift mason
Yes, but he isn't with reaper
peak escarp
and they aren't in a relationship
peak escarp
Mercy and Genji
fathom spear
nah
swift mason
Emily X tracer
fathom spear
she just fixed him up
peak escarp
Torbjorn and Ingrid
fathom spear
emily x tracer is true yea but not mercy x genji
swift mason
It's being hinted at
peak escarp
it's hinted at
fathom spear
so is reaper 76
peak escarp
source?
fathom spear
u need a link or sum?
fathom spear
are u homophic
peak escarp
no
fathom spear
then whats wrong with it
peak escarp
there's nothing wrong with it, it just isn't canon
swift mason
Here we focus on the canon stuff
peak escarp
none of those are official
swift mason
fanfiction is not canon
fathom spear
im asking if anyone wants to play with me and they be 76
thats y i said soldier x 76
swift mason
Go ask on another channel
peak escarp
that's also not what this channel is for
fathom spear
its ow discord
fathom spear
alr thx
swift mason
You are welcome to come back if you have any lore related questions
swift mason
Possibly tomorrow
proud pike
oh
okay
thx
Just somewhere there was a rumor that the comic will be released on the 30th, not 26
terse robin
Do you guys think its possible to have another crusader
Possibly a fallen one who left before the omnic crisis
Itll be a female
She could have armor built from the black market
And cybernetics
She could wield a two handed battleaxe
cerulean ice
doubt
id just stick to rein being the last crusader
also crusaders are big beefy 7' ass guys
terse robin
I think it would be interesting to have another melee tank
There is a female crusader in reinhardts short
proud pike
I think it would be interesting to have another melee tank
I dont think so
I mean. Another crusader
With shield
With melee attack
With Charge
proud pike
So.... Technically its just second Rein
terse robin
But its more interesting
proud pike
cerulean ice
eh
terse robin
A more tactical playstyle
ashen bluff
proud pike
cerulean ice
if you wanna showcase ur character idea this isnt the place
proud pike
Yeah
spice eagle
coom
swift mason
I’m curious, how would torb’s turret work? Would it be portable (as seen in-game) and once deployed it builds itself up?
proud pike
Its just smth like Bastion's self-repair
After all, they were designed by Torbjorn. I think he used this technology in his turret.
like self-construction or something like that
swift mason
Oh yeah torb kinda helped with the creation of bastions didn’t he?
proud pike
He also helped design the E54 Bastion unit
swift mason
Ah ha
cosmic crest
I’m curious, how would torb’s turret work? Would it be portable (as seen in-game...
We see him use it in Destroyer. He throws it out and it deploys. He whacks it with his hammer because that was back when he had to upgrade it.
proud pike
Ah ha
It is because of this that they have a rather complicated relationship. He, as one of the creators, was sent to capture the "Last Bastion"
swift mason
Yeah I remember that, I just forgot about the ‘helping build the bastions’ bit
Cheers for the reminder
proud pike
it's pretty old stuff, but still. Based on the announcing cinematic, Death Blossom is a canonical ultimate. But ... How? How it works?
cosmic crest
It's not really anything special. It's just Reaper shooting his guns very fast.
proud pike
I put the question wrong. I meant the ammo, where did it come from?
he makes a lot more shots than 2 or even 4 full clips of his shotguns
cosmic crest
Ehhhh don't worry about it.
Probably the response Blizzard would give.
proud pike
maybe I'm just getting to the bottom of things, but I'm really interested
cerulean ice
i dont wanna question reaper's arsenal of shotguns
proud pike
It reminded me of that funny graffiti with him
I cant post images here, but I think you understand
spice eagle
i dont
cerulean ice
🤔
proud pike
What?
cosmic crest
That spray is probably accurate.
proud pike
yeah
spice eagle
explains a lot
cosmic crest
Carrying many guns was a legitimate tactic used by cowboys and pirates since reloading is cumbersome especially with weapons that aren't magazine fed.
proud pike
In general, it looks like a joke about watch sellers. But if he really carries his shotguns like that, it must be very hard for him
spice eagle
heavy
proud pike
Carrying many guns was a legitimate tactic used by cowboys and pirates since rel...
yeah, but that's how single-shot silicon pistols were worn. But not damn SHOTGUNS
cosmic crest
Well it's the only real explanation. He's not pulling them from another dimension.
cosmic crest
Kind of like the "punch dimension" that Cyclops from X-men has.
proud pike
||I can imagine him sitting in this dimension after another sortie, reloading his shotguns||
I spoilered it cause its not so serious
limpid agate
If its a shitpost. then you shouldn't post it to begin with.
cosmic crest
he was just making a joke about a legitimate conversation we were having.
Not really a shitpost
But yes, this channel is for serious discussion.
golden jasper
Regarding his shotguns, in can be due to his powers, so he keeps them dematerialized and rematerializes them when he needs it.
limpid agate
People spend way too much time calling attention to the shotguns. He also wraiths his clothes and mask too.
As well as the ammo belt with grenades on it
His big metal boots
And pretty much everything that isn't his flesh
golden jasper
||I can imagine him sitting in this dimension after another sortie, reloading hi...
||There is a video on YouTube about that. Just ask if you want a DM of it.||
golden jasper
People spend way too much time calling attention to the shotguns. He also wraith...
Well yeah, him being able to dematerialize everything he's wearing is how I got the idea of him dematerializing his shotguns until it's needed.
proud pike
Well yeah, him being able to dematerialize everything he's wearing is how I got ...
In general, this is a rather interesting theory (no, not about the second dimension), his bullets are not like ordinary ones. It is possible that his reload has something to do with his gaseous form.
peak escarp
his bullets have some kind of necrotizing agent on/in them
which prevented Jack's accelerated healing from working
proud pike
urban shuttle
speaking of ammo, I still sit back and think how the hell can Genji fit so many shurikens in a tiny pocket of his prosthetic arm
proud pike
peak escarp
same reason you rarely see people reload in movies unless it's part of the plot
people in fiction have as much ammo as the plot needs them to have
urban shuttle
that's understandable
golden jasper
For the shurikens, they do start folded in his arm, then start to unfold as it comes out at the end of his reloud animation.
cerulean ice
its just the scrap gun assisted with some tool to help it fire faster
it doesnt have a massive knockback of course
just fired rlly fast
or something
valid terrace
It's a grinder with a big amount of scrap
He's spitting it out of the gun as fast as he cranks it
proud pike
But I don't remember this thing appearing in the main story
hard cobalt
anyone heard any news about the new London Calling comic?
I didn't seen anything on dark horse
cerulean ice
when symm's challenge ends
terse oar
Tuesday
dry elbow
was it bob that ripped of mccree's left arm?
peak escarp
no
dry elbow
then who was it?
dry elbow
but, in the short movie, ashe told mccree that she would make bob rip of his other arm
peak escarp
idle threats
dry elbow
bob must have ripped of his first arm then?
peak escarp
well you wouldn't threaten to rip off an arm that was already missing
peak escarp
peak escarp
"That's a story for another time."
midnight shoal
Do nano-bots exist at all in the Overwatch universe?
unreal tartan
Mercy's research was in the field of nano-robotics for medical applications
midnight shoal
Because you'd think they'd invent working nano-bots before hard-light
Wasn't it in nano-biotics?
unreal tartan
Ah, the wiki says nanobiology
proud pike
Its biotic. Not nano bots
proud pike
This was stated in "Valkyrie"
midnight shoal
So that's a no on nano-bots existing?
unreal tartan
It's not confirmed that they don't exist, but there's no evidence of it at the moment, no
midnight shoal
Weird.
unreal tartan
In the real world we succeeded in making hard light before nano-robotics, albeit in highly controlled lab situations
midnight shoal
Well technically we had crude, rudimentary nano-bots before that but that's beside the point.
unreal tartan
Fair point
It doesn't rule out the existence of nano-robotics entirely though, it just means that we don't know of any instances of it yet
proud pike
kinda
unreal tartan
It has not been confirmed or denied, to the extent of my knowledge
proud pike
What do you mean?
swift mason
No shitposting
proud pike
What was that?
terse robin
Next update:Mccree and bob had an intense sexual relationship in the past
cerulean ice
!!shitposting
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
terse robin
I wasnt shitposting
cerulean ice
sure
tired prairie
iron plume
good start
teal meadow
Has baptiste ever met widowmaker back in his talon soldier life?
iron plume
We don't know
But probably not, he wasn't exactly high rank
cosmic crest
It would be kind of cool if Widowmaker was his CO.
spice eagle
im pretty sure he did
weary owl
Isn’t bap and sombra “friends”
terse oar
they were the closest when bap was in talon
Technically Mauga was closest to Baptiste, but Sombra and him were good friends
spice eagle
oh yeah
iron plume
I doubt widow was anyone's CO
cosmic crest
Commanding officer.
peak escarp
Widowmaker is just a weapon, she's not in charge of anyone
and they might not have met, but Baptiste would be aware of her
lament prawn
even if she wasnt, her personality doesnt seem like she'd be fitting for a leadership role
she prefers working alone
cosmic crest
She may be ranked higher than the basic grunts.
spice eagle
i mean, in their interactions they seem like theyve met
limpid agate
The interactions themselves aren't canon. But one that suggests familiarity and history between the two suggests familiarity and history between the two.
For example
Baptiste: One shot, one kill.
Widowmaker: You know what happens to those who mock me.
That second line suggests Baptiste already knows.
Meaning that he at the very least knows of Widowmaker.
Widowmaker: Brave of you to show your face after what happened in Monte Cristi.
Baptiste: Well... It is a pretty good face.
And Widowmaker knows of Baptiste.
worn island
```
Baptiste: One shot, one kill.
Widowmaker: You know what happens to those who...
but what happens to people who mock her
do they die?
that would be yike
limpid agate
That's what she is implying, yes.
terse oar
It’s only an interaction
worn island
wait no he's alive cause of his immortality field!
terse oar
Interactions are similar to playing with action figures. They represent a character’s personality and their knowledge, but in a made up scenario
terse oar
Most of it, no
The only things that are canon consistently in gameplay are maps (off the top of my head)
worn island
well, you know, the characters too
worn island
I agree but im tryna think of one that isnt
terse oar
Zenyatta’s Transcendence, and most likely harmony and discord orb, are good examples
Brigitte’s Repair Pack also isn’t
worn island
ah yes, isn't transcendence something that aurora did? like something you do when you ascend
or die or smth
terse oar
Yes, the short story gave it symbolic meaning, but Zen does not literally emit light and heal people
worn island
I don't think lucios ult would exist either?
worn island
yeah
I don't think ashes dynamite would burn either, it would just...blow up wouldn't it?
can explosives burn?
last inlet
I think the only healers who have canonically healed were Mercy, Baptiste, Moira, ummm
Idk who else
last inlet
Ana, duh
worn island
but soldier was surprised when that happened
worn island
does anyone else not like Ashe as a character? I feel like she's just annoying and doesn't really have any redeeming qualties
worn island
yeah
valid terrace
Hopefully the novel will give her more to like
valid terrace
Yeye
limpid agate
I enjoy her bandit boss side
worn island
i want a bob backstory
limpid agate
I hope that whatever the novel shows her as her, and relates that to her.
I don't want another Shooting Star
Where the character in the story is wholly unrelated to the character in the game
Especially since what we have in Reunion is also more bandit boss.
valid terrace
Yeah
limpid agate
She does have a soft spot for McCree, they will probably explore that
worn island
yeah that's at least somewhat interesting
valid terrace
I hope it shows her softer side under the shell she's created
terse oar
In relation to the time they've existed, probably Zen
terse oar
^
valid terrace
Zenyatta or Zarya probably for vanilla characters
worn island
at least we know zenyattas religion and more about how he works, with zarya its just: strong woman stopped trying to be champion and decided to shoot robots instead
terse oar
Tbf, we did see more of her in "Searching"
Although, still, her development is somewhat lacking
valid terrace
Yeah we know almost nothing about a whole country's crisis because there's no Zarya
That really only showed her grow to accept some omnics and distrust her country
We still have a surprising lack of knowledge on her
Same with Hanzo and Pharah
terse oar
I wonder if she'll be in OW2. Hard to tell
valid terrace
But their interactions showed more colors than Zarya is the comic
Probably not
Null Sector would have little reason to interfere in Russia afaik
proud pike
i'm waiting for more Volskaya/Zarya/Sombra lore
valid terrace
They want to attack places at peace with omnics or about to go to war
Not one's already fighting
proud pike
its quite interesting conflict
valid terrace
Like Numbani is probably getting targeted
untold salmon
Can someone explain to me Echo’s story? I honestly have no clue lol
untold salmon
Lol that’s what I figured
untold salmon
Lmfao then Ashe stole her ass?
muted lark
she's not happy
untold salmon
Tee hee