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yup! i agree
Before that it was just "what your favourite animal"
Also gang lets not forget its been 9 years since out last male dps
Yea
And maybe that omnic
9 years before having one
Unless he'll be dps
Ngl as a tank main im kinda sad we onky getting 2 tanks 😭
im so hyped for emre voicelines when he releases to the game, give me more emre lore NOW 👿 👿
Ik we the minority here but god daym
for compensation here are another 8000 skins to kiriko
that detecctive omnic silhouette looks so cool, i hope he's another hitscan dps with cool lore
Voicelines arent canon 😔
He lowk looks like max ngl, the dots look a bit weird but could be him
Rein and hog get lots of skin each season tbh
true 😔 but it still fleshes out their personality and how the characters would interact in a hypothetical situation. thats still enjoyable content to me lol
true Rein is the eboys hero
I am a rein eboy... BUT IM GETTING BETTER
lmfaooo
Becoming a hazard dude now
And Ashe too for dps
Hazard lowk so fun
Like why does she have so many skins
Genji too
I play Monkey cause he's way too cool
Monke hard for me
Monker is fun ngl
she has so many skins, and such a small percentage of them are peak 😔
Idk if he will go well into the new meta that's coming tho
i evev have the Winton plushie equipped on him cause its a need
I'm preety sure the game designer was a Rein main
People for some reason hate her robin hood skin
I don't get the hate
Wonton
yum
fr?? that used to be the only ashe skin i used lmao, now i use her red riding hood one
Also can someone tell me why out of all the loot boxes, i keep getting mercy skins
Liek
Ye, these two just suit her character so great
This shi making me a mercy main
I dunno, I have the same problem with getting at least one doomfist skin each season
I can't even play him
cause there are 9000
so the chance is higher
im so jealous, all the cool cutest skins go to supports 😔 why cant my glorious king soldier 76 be included in the sanrio collab
he got straight up the Knight from Shrek skin now
i just wanna be sparkly and pink 😔
Cute skins only for hanzo in dps side
She does have a lot of skins in the boxes
IK BUT THATS DIFFERENT THAT ONE DOES NOT COUNT
LMFAOO
They didn't update the pool yet so u might just have mostly them skins left
Reapers hogs all emo skins
Like valentines one
(Peak)
Slime queen Echo was preety cute
I only use pachimahog ngl
Ugh i need whatsapp echo ngl
Forgot about cuz batllepass
echo does has a bunch of cute skins, if only i played her lol
So hopeful that blizzard be nice and start releasing previous battlepasses
do we have the battle pass skins yet
Even make them cost slightly more
weirly enough i dont think ive seen those yet
That would be peak man....
i hope so too
Some battlepass skins get released, but as reskins
I want the Soldier winton skin on my alt
i feel like the update to the lootbox pool is the only thing theyre gonna do
but id hope so
appereantly you can get a ton of lootboxes through conquest missions at least
I need that ps5 rammatra ngl
Preety sure battlepass skins aren't included in there
annoyingly
i think they only said collabs are excluded?
Battlepass and collabs and some ow1 skins
for ow1 skins I'm preety sure it's their collab,blizzcon and pink mercy skins right?
There's some event skins too
Like one zarya skin
Not alien one
The other
It looks really good
Viking?
Nuh, that one definitely in the lootboxes
YES
My fav reskin
Such a stupid name, omg
it means the souls of honorable warriors who died in battle and were chosen by Valkyries to dwell in Valhalla
Still stupid and hard to remember
It is a Norse name
Weird that they loved giving zarya these style of skins
Honestly I love the bronze accents in the skin
This skin by itself looks beautiful
I like it when weapons just look sick without needing the gold skin
She has a lot of scars which is cool gives the skin a story behind it
Have no idea why they keeping this skin locked up..
they forgor about it
just like they forgor about Zarya
She ain't your average thin young Asian woman it's hard for them to work with such a unique hero
Bc it was an ltm one ig
I think some of the other ones are still being gatekept
They added a lot of limited time ones already
That one ashe skin and dva's were really rare too, but they're in lootboxes
No reasons why Zarya's the one
Nano cola came back before OW1 died
ye unfortunately zarya doesnt sell skins and people hate her gameplay so
like Reapers "Dusk" skin was limited to the "Code of Violence" challenge event
Her gameplay is fun
It's fun deleting enemy team when fully charged
didn't stop them from making like 6 Sombra skins in 2 seasons
Second most hated character next to Sombra for no reason
im not gonna lie i didnt keep count of the sombra skins they were making recently so fair enough
Ten dance emotes for sombra
Chat what do we think
People were genuinly getting tied of her getting them
So is doom vs vandatte lore yea right?
probably just a hint at a rialto rework
It's the new Stadium map I'm preety sure
in the same spirit as the gibraltar one we're getting
Rialto is a stadium map but that shot seems to be the normal one
Not the stadium variant
ye this is the entry to third point
hence my thought that its a season-themed rework
we got to see how gibraltar is getting reworked to also fit the narrative of getting bombshelled by talon
Yeah
We've had a stadium screenshot that showed a Talon building from the inside with a Rialto looking outside
Yea, Rialto is definitely getting changes
Can somebody explain talon i dont get what it is i never followed lore but i want to now
the space we go to see isnt one i recognize elsewhere in rialto
its too big to be the end of third point
The gated off section of the map that for some reason has collision
Vendetta thrown doomfist out of the window and now leader of the Talon
Enemy faction that under doom wanted to start a new war to force humanity to evolve, under vendetta they want to rule the world
talon has been the 'enemy' organization to overwatch since ow1 released
But what was talon before and how did it even start
its basically a terrorist organization with political influence
I think it was for a canned PvE mission
shrimply put
Kings row has an out of bounds area that was used for underworld
Oo that’s tuff its cause imma main vendetta im learning her rn
Ahh alr thank you
And Havana has a massive area that’s out of bounds as well
The outside still looks like Rialto
Might just be in another location
we know what that part of the map looks like, its almost entirely in the open, which again doesnt fit the images we got to see in the trailer. It could be that, i just doubt it
given pretty much every single new stadium map since the launch of the game mode is brand new im expecting this one to also be
its probably just a rialto rework for core game
None of these look like the normal Rialto location
They seem to be an entirely new part of the city
yep
And ig imply vendetta now runs the whole thing
this actually looks like something that could have been part of the old pve
ye
That's what I was talkin about
There’s still 3 in development stadium maps that have no lore or any other info
I can’t really tell what they’d be based on
I never said Rialto will be replaced somewhat though it woudn't be weird to change some part of the visible city after the Takeover
They don’t really look like what any current faction would build or control
the 1st map seems to be some kinda station
is this from the blizzard press center? i havent seen these screenshots
"Arrivals" tells us that people use it to travel
Leaked when S16 had loads of screenshots found in the files
Basically everything for stadium and s16’s content leaked like 2 weeks early
Including those in development map loading screen pictures
i see
I think it’s copy and pasted from numbani
im noticing it has the training range bots
So it could be a new location in numbani
Or a placeholder
Just for a big arena screen
3 dots on the arch? Conspiracy confirmed fr
I'm looking at the post where u got them screeshots from and there's just a guy saying "Doomfist mains stay away from the windows"
Would lowkey be peak
😭
If any of them windows are circular it’s over for doom
Shiiiit lijang doomfist dead now the shrine maps got circle windows
Ngl I am suprised Hazard didn't get a Hello Kitty skin, even like a offbrand "kpop Junkrat fan" style skin, bc Hazard as a character likes cute things and Hazard's VA loves hello kitty.
I assume with collabs the other party has a say in who gets skins
And they just didn’t want hazard
Yeah for sure. But Junkrat got a "kpop fan" skin to coincide with the kpop collab without it being officially apart of the collab, Hazard could have gotten a "cute" skin to coincide with hello kitty.
Regardless I am happy Lucio got a skin :) it's so cute
I feel like Hazard will never get a collab skin
I kinda wanna make a list of collab skins I wanna see for every hero
that could happen, its just not part of the collab like you said
hello guys 
Lucio got the frog skin was literally perfect
ngl, I'm grieving the loss of Overwatch PvE again 😭
Imagine if they brought that back for this new season, it would be so good for their optics.
I'd be happy if they just gave us one story mission per season.
Fuck it, one story mission per year.
I remember when they'd do the archives even for Overwatch 1, I loved that shit.
I wanted them to make a whole game of that so badly.
see, this is how they should have done it in the first place - an arc that lasts a few seasons, with one mission per season and UI integration
they really did just jump into the deep end with no plan
Yeah, I left Overwatch for a while
it's good to take a break
Heard about the new update and I'm cautiously optimistic
I was pleased to see they are finally populating some of the other factions.
Mizuki is from the Hasimoto, they're finally expanding on the conspiracy with Emre, and I swear Domina is a ringer for a Vishkar boss I dreamt about 8 years ago.
Who’s your guesses for the remaining unknown 5 heroes?
Based on who we got in lore
left to right: Hivemind, D.mon, Hashimoto woman with oni mask, omnic detective, Frankie
Hivemind?
the terrorist from the mission that forced Reinhardt to retire
Also am I crazy or does she kinda look like one of the customization options for Ana’s mythic skin?
she was holding hostages and trying to get some important data - Reinhardt disobeyed orders when she started killing hostages and rushed in, saving 47 people but losing the valuable data
The Omnic detective and Hivemind are my most anticipated ngl
But I think a human who tows the line between human and Omnic would be sick
To the extreme
To the point where you can’t tell if it’s still human or something else
Sojourn is already like 90% cybernetic
Yeah but she’s still visibly still clearly human
I’m talking cybernetics that are inhuman in design
Exciting that we are finally getting another MEKA hero. Would of preferred Casino or Overlord but this is fine. I hope they reuse the eject mechanic, but I doubt they will.
Would be cool to link them together through gameplay though
I so hope that Omnic Detective (Noir I’ll call him) is a support
Noir would be a sick hero name
I hope that really is Frankie on the far right, I always wanted her to be in the game.
also, I think the next 5 heroes will be the same roles as the 5 we get next week, aka the role queue setup - 1 tank, 2 support, 2 damage
Frankie and Noir will probably be the supports
D.mon the tank obv.
Hivemind and Hashimoto for damage
Isn’t the next hero confirmed dps and that’s Frankie’s sophomore?
Bruh
I spelled that so wrong to get that autocorrect lol
Spotted
I don't think they confirmed the role
Apparently the next one is confirmed DPS

It was said in some livestream… Aspen’s I think
Also, next one could be Helix agent
Deadlock or Helix
Nah it’s prob Frankie
another reason to think that s3 hero will be a Hashimoto member is that they release with the Tokyo map and I think they will focus on the Hashimoto vs Yokai plot for that season
I so want that long braid to be a scorpion stinger type weapon since apparently she’s noted as having “short lavender hair”
if the s2 hero is Frankie, then the plot will be about the Grand Mesa heist vs the Deadlock Gang
Will Hivemind or the Hashimoto girl be dps?
I hope so. I've wanted another Helix hero for years
Also is the next 4/5 heroes female?
then s4 will be involving MEKA and the Gwishin?
S4 is for some reason MEKA vs Junkertown
But Grand Messa heist will have 3 main factions facing off : Deadlock Helix and Talon (Emre and Freja are supposed to be stealth for this one)
looks like it based on the silhouettes
So 3/10 of the next heroes are male, never seen a split like that in a while
My bet is that Overwatch is going to retreat to MEKA because they are collaborating
Helix, tje season card has a canyon like mesa
Maybe that’s where they flee if WP Gibraltar gets destroyed
Deadlock has more to do with a canyon mesa than Helix
Isn’t WP Mesa now in possession of Helix right now?
Reason why i think its helix tho is grand mesa and the drones, which she has
Helix is a global company
So they talk about advanced drones in grand mesa, next hero has drones and seemingly a baret, fitting helix
I think shes not deadlock but will fight deadlock and talon
Before the comic I was more leaning towards Deadlock/Frankie but now I’m more leaning toward Helix
(Also because Helix is involved with some Phreaks so it would be more interesting I think)
Boomslang my beloved
For me the baret seemingly is big too
Are those tiny spikes on her chin the only thing tying her to a Boomslang?
peak character design i really need to get back into the comics wtf
what about the snake heads on her braids?
and the snake tattoo on her arm barely visible under her sleeve
So Sigma is still under Talon control right?
yes
Yes
Honestly I would not be surprised if Vendetta slips up with him and he snaps
I think that Vendetta leaves Sigma to Moira's hands
yeah
just saying, a comic where sombra (& maybe reaper and widow) try to break sigma out would be so peak 🔥 🔥
Everyone keeps saying this but idr care for it
Is he still potentially the strongest character in OW lorewise?
Yeah, if he's able to harness the power of black holes
What’s a sword gonna do to gravity increased to such a margin you get crushed by your own weight
personally i think he is the strongest if we're going off of just raw strength/power, since he can do black hole stuff and everything. but if we take his mental status into account, maybe sigma isn't the #1 most powerful considering he's not really mentally there
We dont know if he can do that
Sigma is potentially strongest
But his strength ranges from black hole to lifting a few rocks in theory
Vendetta is currently the strongest because of her arsenal. She has a massive army equipped with overshields
emre might not be the strongest character in lore, but he is the PEAKEST character in lore by far
Emre is pretty strong when he's under control by the program. Probably stronger than Soldier 76
Thing is ae dont know if he can do black hole stuff rn
Oh yeah he introduced a whole new pack of worms
What the Hell is controlling him
We have only seen him lift rocks
The conspiracy
agreed, soldier's a goat but i think emre would def win against him if he's being possessed by the Evil Finnish AI™
Mauga ofc is also a powerhouse. Probably Talon's 2nd strongest member if we're going by solo power
Its really odd that itd be finnish though as out only Finnish ai was kind
But ig maybe security got corrupted
didnt sigma have some sorta black hole looking thing in his animatic character intro?
maybe getting quarantined made it snap
Before yes, in space, in a lab with unknown amount of gear
the overwatch version of the illuminati
What if we get a hero that's possessed by Anubis 
It got destroyed though
Maybe it had an offset that it placed around that got unhinged
Give me an AI called Jormungandr or Surtr who just wants to see life destroyed
Uhm

Yea my thoughts, maybe added some new directives
only two more days until i get to hear some glorious emre voicelines in game
i need emre to drop so bad
Do you know the god ais
[ REACTIVATING HOST ]
I know the god ais I just forgot the word
I don’t know all of them tho
Yeah been a while for me too havin a brain fart rn
But then i think chernobog got reactivated and corrupted
Cuz security so maybe its attempting to control everything
Imagine one day they secretly add a new respawn voice line that foreshadows a major lore piece
In hyped for his bio
thank you for giving me another thing to be hyped about
also i just wanna say, the little overlay in his ui that appears for a second when he respawns is so mf cool
i cant wait to main this guy
OW just broke its highest player count on Steam
plz more ram and hog lore plzplzplz
we'll see them when Mauga goes to Junkertown
lowkey im praying that jq either wins against mauga or they come to a tie (if they end up fighting)
im gonna be so disappointed if mauga beats jq in a fight
Incredibly minor point @peak escarp - domina is a vp of vishkar, not the vp. Vp in corporations are roles with areas of focus like marketing (domina is VP of development and innovation I think?), not a singular #2 position like in governments
Maybe you meant that and the article is a mixup, but worth distinguishing that while she's important in the corporate structure, there are probably a dozen people at her rank, not just her as the second overall
no I thought corporations only had one VP
He likely would tho
Have u seen him
i thought the whole purpose of origin stories were that they were the factual backstories of things that happened
So jq who dreams of bastipns with big teeth would likely gas up her own achievements
i swear on my life and soul thatoneminer
mauga and jq 1v1 ends in a tie
Nah not at all, framing, colour, music etc all clearly are their own interpretation
Take sigma
Its all over the place
well yeah but it still gives you a general idea of what happened
Ram is framed as a hero
Just heard Freja's "what's your favorite animal" line and it probably cemented her as one of my favorite characters
freja peak character
Just the way she says "stouts"
I honestly dont see it
i used to hate her but ever since search and destroy she's one of my favs
What's Emre's (and the Conspiracy's) favorite animal?
If the storyvwills it sure
I bet itll be something parasitic
i dont think theres a canon one yet, but hmm 🤔 🤔 putting my thinking cap on
That would place JQ in the same caliber as Doomfist
i fully believe jq is in a similar caliber to doomfist
" [ TAPEWORM. ] "
yk that one fungus that hijacks ants and brainwashes the ant into spreading their spores?
thats what i think the conspiracy's favorite one is
Icl i cant think of the english word but sluipwesp. Its a wasp that is parasitic but is used as security for crops
yall i swear when this comic drops, it will end in a tie
Ah, the cordyceps
Not an animal
Bro..
Jq os strong
bro......... trust me bro
what's not to love - stoats are cute (and also deadly predators)
Keep in mind he has chain guns
Reaper: Any animal will do. If you're hungry enough.
my favorite animal is a mushroom, dont let the boundaries of taxonomy and society or whatever determine what your favorite animal can or cant be
Domina will likely like some posh animal
Zebra
i could see domina liking bees
cause like they build organized structured hives and stuff
Emre would likely like dogs
Yeah i see it
jq has fought worse before trust
Jetpack Cat's favorite animal is "mrowwww"
i absolutely agree
lucio asking a cat what their favorite animal is is krilling me
I love that Cassidy's favourite animal is the tapir (even though he can't remember what it's called)
She just goes dead silent and answers "meow.
I think the fact both ram and zen hit ants might make 'liking eusocial animals' covered a bit
such an unusual animal to have as a favourite
My favorite animal is the vampire bat
true but its like different types of eusocial, plus has anyone covered bees before
I quite like centipedes and snakes
but also have you seen baby tapirs? they're so cute
also speaks to how he regards 'favorite' - some people are doing animals they're familiar with, or have particular affinity for their associations. Cass clearly just went with one he saw once and found pretty amusing.
Oh I thought he was talking about pangolins
whats an okapi
imagine giraffes but deer
Do we know if sig answers
awww
It’s like a small giraffe with zebra stripes
It's an animal that was considered a cryptid for 300+ years. Explorers thought it was an African unicorn because of native eyewitness accounts
okapi
giraffe but deer. Lives in the woods and everything
Did a project on them in 5th grade
Imagine she loves narwhals
they're neat
Okapi's were discovered officially in the late 1800's but they were considered a cryptid since the 1500's
Same with gorillas
Thos legit looks like a photoshopped animal
Gorillas were cryptids until the early 1900's
it does look fake
Ikr
no wonder it was a cryptid
Its like one of those clickbait "WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A ZEBRA AND GIRAFFE"
But yeah I like to imagine Domina would enjoy cryptozoology
I can also see dolphin
Cuz theyre in the public eye cute and fun bit behind doors and reality kinda fucked up
'discovered' in the late 1800s after people kept ignoring native eyewitnesses
plus like idk how to describe it but a honeycomb pattern suits vishkar really well
My guess is Dolphins for domina
Cuz theyre seen as cute funnand kinda regal by public eye but have alot of fucked up things in reality
Anran's favorite animal is the phoenix, but that's boring
that is a convincing argument
Mizuki's favorite animal is the crane
I mean, I don't think they'd be able to articulate that in a voiceline unless domina is an absolute freak.
It symbolizes their strength
They dont have to
reminds me of all the times in archaeology where researchers have no idea what a tool is used for but there's hundreds of people whose ancestors lived there saying "oh, that's a [tool], we still use them just with modern materials" and the researchers just ignore them
that's... that's not real. Someone get her out of element school and into normal school.
Hazard says unicorn btw
Looking into ehy they like the animal is part of thr fun
"Love me a sharp horse"
And dolphin is one of those answers that would go off well in public too
the new heroes better have the favorite animal interactions ready right when they release
i need to know what emre's canonical favorite animal is
Im locking in dolphin or bees for domina
as long as get more lucio interactions beyond that, im chillin with that
and thankfully it already seems like we do
Emre id say a supportive animal like certain birds, a turkish animal or dogs
Funniest example is easter islands where natives when asked how they moved such big statues went 'they walked' and researchers were like 'poppycock' and ignored it. Then recently they figured out there's a specific technique of teams pulling ropes at opposite ends to lift and twist in a way that resembles walking the statue.
Well that man just likes his scottish independence.
im locking in cordyceps for conspiracy-possessed emre (or maybe some sort of other parasite thats an actual animal?), dogs for normal emre, bees for domina, crane for mizuki
it also turns out that that "walking" technique is a really effective way to move tall heavy things like furniture
istanbul cats!
What if Emre says stouts
aww wait cats would be really cute, i might switch to cats for emre
As i said, i dont know the English name but sluipwesp
Its a wasp that takes care of leafmites by parasiticaly laying eggs in them
They are used as security systems for crops so its securitu and parasitic
wait this is actually perfect, im switching to this
Juno HATES cats
Not sure if we'll hear it talk though
I mean, do we know the entity possessing or controlling emre is even super into that? If this is some fragment of chernobog shoved in emre's head, or a necessary measure it's remotely using to free itself, it might not be like 'hell yeah, parasitoiding is my favorite thing to do'
Its a guess based on my current theory
It’s for the themes
the "initiating host" thing from his respawn makes me think Chernobog (or whatever) is possessing him
well idk if they'd be so on the nose about it lmfao
i love parasitoiding
What if Chernobog says "Anubis"
Right, but even if the ai is doing this, I'm not sure it would... form its opinions on animals based on resemblance to its current behavior.
i really hope that some of the voicelines emre gets are said by the AI thats posessing him, outside of his ult voiceline
I think we'll just get Emre's favourite, not whatever is possessing him
The main thing though is that its a "heroic" deed in a fucked up way for humans
Basically Phoenix in Marvel Rivals
Phoenix possesses Jean Grey in some voice interactions
Venture: *gasp* I've always wanted to get eaten alive by scarabs!
Venture... you okay buddy?
wtf, do they actually say this?? 🤣 🤣
Venture is their intrusive thoughts
thank you for the context i am not a rivals player lol
but yeah if they did this with emre it would be cool asf
This makes Venture the most sciencist of any character
What does Moira say
im glad you're marching to the beat of your own drums venture, stay true to you
she has the latin name for hers on deck
"Scolipedra gigantea."
That's very Moira of her
spoilered for bug
unspoil for bug
she has to be all fancy and use the scientific taxonomy name because Scientist
Did you know the tallest millipedes used to grow up to 30 feet
Prehistoric times were crazy
Such a cool thing
Which, I must reiterate, is less scientist than a desire to be eaten by bugs.
Because of lots of oxygen if I remember correctly
offtopic but i think its so goofy they put her in a croptop in her talon uniform skin, like she would never wear that lmfao i would bet my life
I like how Baptiste and Mauga both say a different species of shark and claim it's the best species
Not every skin is canonical
One of the devs said in a qna it's their favorite skin
They can have some creative liberties
Look, Vendetta blew all of talon's budget on day trading. They need to make that money back on the livestreams of their crimes somehow.
good point, but i personally prefer skins where it at least seems like something close to what the character would wear
lmfao
Man I had the funniest idea if Nintendo was cool in any way but they aren't unfortunately...
Then you probably really hate her mythic
Nintendo is just like any company
A Pokémon collab, but it's not just the skins, they have Lucio tell everyone "I've been meaning to ask, what's your favorite Pokémon?"
Really weird that people have problems with only them
I only say this because Nintendo don't do collabs
They would be cool only if it's exclusive to them
tbh i have no idea what moiras mythic is, 1 sec im gonna go look it up
They do
Rarely, and only on their own systems
They love their exclusivity
We almost got Samus into Fortnite, but Nintendo said they'd only allow it if Samus only appeared on the Switch
then everyone makes fun of him for liking a game for grandparents.
sadly Bowser Mauga will never happen
Bowser Hazard
Ye hazard better
Bowsette Vendetta
I hate bowsette
I mean...
Bowser would never
Daisy Ashe
only if Bob gets a Luigi costume
Samus Pharah, obviously
I don't know about pharah
Soj would suit samus better
Something about this objection is really funny to me. 'The big turtle boss who is characterized as absolute losercore whenever he's not an active threat would never!'
Samus isn't really about flying around
...not the hero covered in armor?
Samus for Emre 
Zero suit samus for emre
Yes, he has standards
We're inevitably getting a Master Chief Emre
He really doesn't, man.
Yeah he does
Si tu dices.
Why would he ever turn himself into that
We're real in the weeds at this point, this is overwatch.
Just saw a theory that Jetpack Cat originated from Project: Star Companion
yeah this tangent is getting out of hand
Oka
Project: Star Companion was only briefly mentioned in Juno's short story, but it described it as a memorial for it
Which probably means it failed or something
And that Jetpack Cat probably comes from that
the memorial portraits of the animals from Project: Star Companion
or they just launched a bunch of animals into space and never got them back, cuz you know, they usually don't when they launch animals into space.
Yeah, maybe Jetpack Cat is an animal that survived Project: Star Companion
Cosmo in Marvel is based off of the Russian dog they sent into space that immediately died, except in Marvel, that dog gained superpowers and explored space
I just think it's neat
that Russian dog was Laika, featured in the memorial above
Yep
'Dr. Chao, we've been doing space travel for over a hundred years now! We're not getting any new data from our weekly kidnapping of neighborhood pets and launching them into the cold vacuum of space!'
I wouldn't be surprised if Jetpack Cat came from space
I would
I wouldn't be surprised by anything from Jetpack Cat atp
considering the devs said they wanted to do something different and both of our other animal heroes are from space
She's probably an ALIEN
Or maybe a Moira experiment that broke out idk
Why does this cat know how to use a jetpack
because Brigitte trained her
How do you train a cat to do this lmao
I can't even train my dog to go to the bathroom outside
how do you train a cat to do anything? treats and positive reinforcement
This cat is gonna have the craziest lore
craziest or laziest, one of the two
I refuse to believe it's "just a stray"
WHAT IF SHE HAD HER FUCKING BRAIN SWAPPED AND THERE'S A HUMAN BRAIN OPERATING THE CAT
AND THE CAT IS JUST PRETENDING TO BE A CAT
I'm going conspiracy mode
that's a wild leap
I refuse to believe it'll be anything but wild
It's very simple. The cat believed hard in the one true religion of Overwatch, Shinto, and it magically granted her the powers of fine motor control.
it's funny how of all the scifi things in Overwatch, a cat trained to press buttons is the most unbelievable
Because it's the most normal, it's the most abnormal!
And boring tbh
I need my OW heroes with DEEP and COMPELLING lore
reminds me of people thinking Cassidy's deadeye is some kind of cybernetic power or deal with the devil when it's really just him shooting good
I was always sceptical about them even adding Jetpack cat tbh. We already have one hero who's character is largely "lol small animal as hero" we really didn't need another, Overwatch has jumped this shark before.
It's mostly in that sci fi trains us to seek an explanation. It bothered to explain hardlight, and reaper's ghost powers, etc. So those times you fail to do due diligence will bother people.
"It's just a cat, Angela."
It didn't bother to explian Japan's "not magic" 
And that has been a point of controversy fans have been picking at and trying to explain since day 1 with the shimadas, then got supercharged with kiriko.
I think mizuki's emphasis on connection with Kiriko's father, alongside the emphasis on Talon extracting weapons as payment, leads me to believe that they'll be following up on the allusions to it being a secret tech of the shimada clan we saw in the hanzo short story
If Reign of Talon properly explains how their powers work, it'll actually be the best thing they ever do
secret tech? Her dad makes it
yes, and it's a secret only he knows
I personally can buy that soul-powers aren't considered magic in OW
hence secret tech
Doesn't Hashimoto give those away
No
Talon is gonna get some
Kiriko's dad has only made weapons for the Shimadas and Hashimotos to use
well buy tbh but uknow what I mean
I woudn't be suprized if they made more of those deals
Tbh what if Kiriko's dad's tech is that the markings on the characters' bodies infuse their weapons with hardlight abilities
Like Hanzo's dragon tattoo
It makes the weapons more personalized
His weapons use spirit energy to summon these creatures
the goons attacking Hanzo weren't able to summon any because they were cheaply made
bad resources little time
he's also a single guy being forced to make weapons for hundreds of people or smth happens to his family
also that
He has to spend as little time as possible on these blades
Though I woudn't be suprized if Shimada dragons were special creatures that require the markings
that woudn't really scientifically explain Kirikos Kitsune though
if they require markings how do you explain Genji
the more unbelievable thing is how a swordsmith made Hanzo's Storm Bow
He doesn't really summon a dragon that flies at his opponents
swordsmithing and bowmaking don't really have any overlaps in skills
He's built diffrent
Is Mizuki team Talon or Overwatch?
yes
He's with the Hashimoto that works with Talon
it's implied that he changes sides
He will change sides eventually due to Kiriko's influence most likely
Ohh that's interesting, thanks!
It will be very interesting to see how Kiriko saves her dad from Vendetta's Talon associated Hashimoto. Maybe Mizuki will play a role in helping save Kiriko’s dad?
Hanzo gonna help for sure
I can't take Hashimoto seriously after Kiriko's animated short
don't forget how Hanzo completly humilated them in dragons
that one guy who had his hair cut in half was a returning thing xd he can't catch a break
Wait what are we taking about
I wonder what are Reaper, Sombra, and Widowmaker going to do now that they left Talon over disagreements?
maybe they'll go looking for Doomfist
I think sigma has saved doomfist
Reaper seems most loyal to him
Gave him powers and shi
Oh yeah, forgot about Sigma. Even though he is controlled by Talon, we still don't know what is his role in what's going to happen.
I think Sombra will help Soldier and Illiari
I ain't sure they know he's not dead
Sigma is kept in a lab under strict control, I don't think he's saving anyone
I wonder, besides Moira experimenting on Sigma, what Sigma was actually providing to Talon? Like what tech or research
Sigma had literally infinite powers he can control time and space I think so he’s an asset
incorrect
Most likely as a tool for Talon's gains.
Well he’s very powerful
He also talks about ants walking on the ceiling
and hands being arm feet
he can control gravity, but we don't know the extent of those powers
Yeah alright he’s a bit of a nutter
Yeah a side effect I guess also he’s got dementia
Illari is kinda weird right now because afaik, no one knows she exists
No he still remembers some of his events
https://x.com/kohquette/status/2020583410809614845?s=20
Sweet, official design! :)
just doesn't recall them correctly
Yeah a few but one of the voice lines he says to mercy when are we meeting but it happened years ago
Soldier worked with her he might still do
I was more so referencing the research he is seemingly doing. He's not mentally all there so idk how effective his powers would be to use as a reliable asset. Still, not bad to have. But his research seems to be funded by Talon, I just wonder what kind of research.
Illari has also been in contact with Sombra
Yeah I didn’t know that it pretty new to overwatch tbh
I’m pretty new I meant
There's gotta be some good reason for why they made him his hyperspheres or his weird helmet
could be some kinda controlling device
What could this POSSIBLY be
Actually maybe 16 depending on how long the Null Sector story arc took
Since at the start of the Null Sector invasion, Dva was now 21, so like 2 years had to pass right? And Efie was 13 when she created Orisa, which was 2 years before Null Sector iirc
So Efie would be 15 at the start of Ramattra's invasion, and 16 by the end of it
Unless I'm completely wrong and dumb
She isn’t even nearly capable of matching that silhouette
anyone reckon we could be getting d.mon or other meka members?
the middle sillhouette in the teaser is likely to be D.mon
I think d.mon is coming this year
woo
Hopefully we eventually get the rest if they can make them unique enough
The humble plot armour
i really want king to join overwatch
I’ve seen a lot of theories d.mon is a talon member so it would be cool to have neutral (dva), talon (D.mon) and an ow one
And then have maybe they eventually all end up on ow
I don’t know tbh, she seems a bit tied up with the gwishin either way too be much help to ow atm
Main theory some of us have is that he let her win to do what he wants in secret while the world thinks he died
Kpop jermain clement?
so pulling a solider and ana..?
I hope
the way he was acting was like a totally diff person
Kinda but on purpose
Dva is literally recruited into ow with meka's blessing
why did the chicken cross the road?
doomfist wasn't even using his doom fist
Never knew that nvm then
peak doomfist comedy
she's literally with Overwatch fighting Null Sector in the Invasion missions
Dva is currently in ow
Someone already said that
D.Mon can't be spared story wise
I wasn’t aware
With D.Va fighting with Overwatch, MEKA can't spare anymore members
Especially not since the Gwishin are still active
That's honestly why I keep saying that mech we saw in the spotlight had to be a hero we've heard since the first cinematic
Soundquake
I fear the background concept showing a slightly redesigned D.mon mech means they’re just gonna do something to make them being in ow not an issue
People keep saying that's D.Mon, but are really just grasping at straws
Busan has that text in one of the spawn rooms that says an EMP has been developed to hopefully temporarily or permanently stop the gwishin’s attacks
Maybe they’ll activate that and it works so D.mon being in ow becomes a bit more reasonable
maybe MEKA can't spare D.Mon to leave Busan, but what if Overwatch comes to Busan
I'm still siding with my Soundquake theory. It wouldn't be the first time a hero was brought to life from Recall. Sojourn for example
im assuming this is hinting that we get the kiriko and mizuki comic tomorrow
And that one former agent from Ana's story in Heroes Ascendant
Mirembe
Yea her
IMO these look the same they just changed the mech’s height, if it is soundquake I wouldn’t be against it tho
If they can bring Sojourn and Mirembe into the story, they can bring the infamous Soundquake too. Just saying
Not really. That in the background looks bigger and bulked up
has soundquake even been mentioned in any official manner besides Titan concept material
I think soundquake will arrive sooner or later since they’re finally getting around to heroes that have existed for years either in lore (Emre) or as concepts (jetpack cat) but idk if they’re for this year
Timmy mentions him in the Museum short
He was mentioned in the first cinematic by the kid and glimpsed in Recall
that feels a lot looser than what we knew about Emre prior
but i guess its impossible
i think we'll know in the coming months since im expecting them to build up to each hero with the lore drops
given that they already got a lot of our existing predictions out of the way
I have a very important question to silence a friend of mine. Does Venture eat rocks?
yes they do
it's a joke about how archeologists will check to see if something is a rock or a bone by licking it
isnt there a voice line that confirms they do
its based on what warlord is sayin
its a joke and not a serious 'hobby' they have
they even put an easter egg in the last april fools event where venture gets healed if they get hit by sigma rock
So Venture maybe eats rocks.
then again they could always just say 'fuck it its official' so
yes
That's actually amazing 😂
venture eats rocks for a professional purpose
Remember they showed a collab for He-Man on the list? Think I found the perfect skins for them 💯
They definitely eat a pebble or two when no one is looking.
He-Man Genji
Teela Brigitte
Man-At-Arms Emre
She-Ra Vendetta
Skeketor Ramattra
Beast Man Winston
Evil-Lyn Moira
overwatch collabed with persona so its not much of a stretch to say theyd collab with danganronpa
probably
Oh no.....
i just realised
technically persona 5 was the last collab overwatch 2 ever had
whoever made a deal with a fae to get this collab to happen was smart
Went out with a bang ig
true, but also it doesnt kill the joke
im so confused on why people keep thinking efi would help doomfist to get another arm??? she made orisa, who fought and chased off doomfist when he tried to do whatever he was going to do with numbani. WHY on earth would efi help him out????
Well, if hypothetically this would happen and go pathetic with doomfist's redemption, I think Efi would help him
Actually crazy that the seasons at the end of last year didn't had any new collabs
They were pumping these collabs like crazy
it sounds a bit like cope to me
i do think doomfist will return, but not like that
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/s/ogURRvrUE6
I've updated and made some fixes to my grid where i divide each Overwatch Hero based on their Affiliation
Take a look and let me know what you think :)
That’s so cool. Nicely broken down
Thank you so much! Took me so long to get everything sorted out and that it made actual sense
Appraciate it a lot!
I would love to see them fill out some of these factions a bit more. I think it looks like one of the 5 silhouette heroes could be a part of Hashimoto due to their horns so that’s cool since Mitzuki seems to be leaving them. But I would love one of the others to be deadlock gang or more related to junktown like a feral omnic saved by Hammond or something
Another random lore question also. Does anyone know roughly where the building doomfist was thrown out from is in the world or no?
This is so true, I really hope they get to use some of the others Affiliation that are already there instead of creating new groups or just split them between overwatch or talon
100%. I’m hoping that’s kinda their plan with the latest comic revealing vendettas plan as involving all these different groups. Provides a great opportunity to catch up on all these groups, show their status, and potentially highlight any future characters
I think Junkrat and Roadhog should still be grouped with the Junkers
Nope, they are banned from Junker Town and JQ hates Junkrat
they were still with her in Friendly Rivalry
also, being exiled doesn't mean they aren't still Junkers culturally
But as it is right now they still are banned and they act like a criminal duo around the world still
this is Affilation i agree they are Junkers indeed
but not under The Junkers of Junker Queen
or it would be like saying Bastion is not an Omnic because he is under Overwatch
he still is an Omnic culturally
since im drawing fanart of emre I just noticed his gun handle is full of spikes in the concept art, including the trigger
I wonder what the conspiracy gets out of doing that
Based on the established Overwatch lore, Junkrat and Roadhog remain officially banned from Junkertown by the Junker Queen.
The Exile following a string of chaotic offenses, including stealing from the Queen and blowing up her "summer shack," the duo was exiled and ordered to be shot on sight.
a failed return whwre they attempted to return in the "Junkertown: The Plan" short in 2017 to bribe their way back in, the plan resulted in further failure and continued banishment.
and their current status as of the latest narrative updates in Overwatch 2, including the lore in A Friendly Rivalry, they are still considered dangerous outcasts by the Junker Queen, forced to navigate the Wasteland rather than living in the city.
While they occasionally try to return, they have not been permanently reinstated into the Junker society.
everyone else still considers them Junkers though
who's everyone else
i consider them as Junkers too not under Junker Queen Affiliation tho
I mean as i said, they are indeed Junkers
thx god they get considered as them
But my grid isnt based on races
also how do you explain this?
Whats your favorite faction? Like group or organization
i explain thst exact scene
the holiday comic is set after the events of Friendly Rivalry
Roadhog and Junkrat*: the "Together" comic scene doesn't mean Junkrat and Roadhog made peace or rejoined Junkertown under Junker Queen. It's more like a light slice-of-life moment, not a status change in the lore where they might be getting closer to her. So their spot is being kept in Independent.
I disagree
Okay
I've talked in here abt this 2 before in this chat, today
we all agreed they are indeed not under Junker Queen
but they're still Junkers
so then we agree
we agree they are Junkers yeah as a race / culture
Culture then yup
But also Junkers is an affiliation under Junker Queen, not just a culture :) stated in the wiki
which Roadhog and Junkrat are not part of
while Wrecking Ball is as a minion of it
okay
Friendly rivalry does end with jq reiterating the duo's banishment.
Very much now gtfo
we'll see if they're around when Mauga pays a visit
Their exile feels very porous, both because of comedy of the ecology and jq's rule isn't super institutional. Y'know, it's a bunch of militias turned roving bandits loosely organized under a hegemon
im trying to make fanart of my glorious king emre rn and its so hard why does he have so many random tubes and gizmos everywhere
why does he have anime hair
why conspiracy, why???
some people think he should have more tubes and gizmos
Man, I saw a comment calling Vendetta winning against doomfist as propaganda and attack against man and masculinity
Some people's brains are fried
woah
they want to be the victim so hard
They're trying to bring in that same bs that happened during that Marvel Rivals tournament from the sounds of it
F those two who did that to their teammate btw
i can understand thinking that doom's defeat wasn't written well or something but what are we doing
Every idiot trying to use the dumbest propaganda they can to get a rise out of people
I got a message for anyone who thinks Vendetta beating Doomfist is an attack on your male masculinity
Touch some grass
Can't wait for Frankie in season 2 
We're real confident in that, given the helix boss was what was teased more.
if the 5 new characters were dnd classes, what do yall think they'd be?
personally, i think domina would be an artificer. emre is a warlock. anran is a sorcerer. mizuki is a rogue. and jetpack cat is a bard
Artificers make their stuff
did a little sketch of my predictions for the 5 other heroes - discussion here changed my mind on Frankie
got a little lazy on drawing D.mon because I'm bad at drawing mechs
omnic detective 🙏 🙏
omnic detective is probably the only one in this lineup that im excited for (besides dmon maybe)
Domina is a College of Creation Bard. Emre is a GOO Warlock. Mizuki is an Arcane Trickster Rogue. Anran is an Evocation Wizard. Jetpack Cat is a College of Satire Bard
As a DND nerd, I can tell you this party fucking sucks lmao
No tank. All squish
Very good social party though, just glass cannony in combat
DAMN you outdid me, im immediately switching all my takes to what you said
overwatch inspired dnd would probably go so hard
I could do it, I just don't like DMing online
the system I play (Pathfinder 1e) has a series of feats that essentially lets you build Cassidy's deadeye
trouble is that the build isn't finished until level 14 and most campaigns don't get that far
I created Ashe in Daggerheart
nice
There's a spell that lets you summon a shadow minion that does work for you like carry luggage or attack enemies
That's just Bob
man i really should get back into dnd
anran makes more sense as a wizard considering her whole deal is being a successful student in the wuxing academy
yeah i 100% agree, my dumb ahh forgot she had to go to college to learn so she could get her fire abilities lol
She's a prodigy, but prodigious wizards exist
Gale from BG3 for example
In truth, no one can be a sorcerer in OW
Unless you're Kiri ig
You kinda have to be born with your power
kiri is the only one who gets a pass for being blizzard's favorite cash cow
he gets his abilities through the iris, right? i think monk/cleric more than monk/sorc
Yeah I can't really think of a good sorc in ow
Wait, no
Illari
It's argued that the sun powers come from cybernetics, but her innate ability was what blew up the whole city (as far as the lore tells us)
So Illari is the only true sorcerer candidate
Wild Magic I'd say
I can make a class for the entire roster
That'd bloat this channel tho lol
this would be absolutely fire i would read this lol
Eh, screw it
artificer, warlock, wizard, rogue/cleric hybrid, artificer/a pc's silly dnd pet the dm loosely rp as bc they think its awkward
:hehe:
You think Hivemind could be an Omnic now or still staying human?
Cause that waistline seemed way too thin to me to be human
oh my gosh i cant believe we're only a few hours away from there being only ONE DAY UNTIL EMRE RELEASES IYRGyrEYGY
im so hyped to play as this guy
for all we know it could be prosthetic, but it could also be human
my main reason for doubting thats an omnic is because of the figure on the right
the figure on the right has the dots on the face that make it clear its an omnic
in that case, why arent those present on the left figure?
Who says we can’t get more than one omnic? Not all omnics have those dots
personally i'm 100% betting that they're an omnic, ik overwatch is super futuristic but a prosthetic waistline seems pretty crazy even still like what happened to your organs
Because Bastion is also an omnic
the classical omnics do, it would have to be something heavily modified like orisa, but sure nothing says we cant have more
The spam detector caught it as spam and muted me for it lol so I won't post it because I'm not going through that trouble again lol
2 days until OW1 woaw! I'm dying for Emre lore
no worries, i bet it was peak 🤣 REAL i hope the next comics come out soon
But yeah Emre would be a Ghost in The Machine Warlock
looks as thin as Moira
although 2 omnic heroes would make me happy
It would be really hype if we got Maximillien for a hero. I don’t think the silhouette fits Max though
Do the forehead markings look like they could be maxs? I don’t think his are lined up like that
Max is too cowardly to be a hero
agreed
They do not line up for that matter (also yeah Max's strength is not physical courage)
I guess I think it would be cool since I really like his character. I know it doesn’t fit as a hero but I dunno
Are there any other notable omnics that this hero could be ?
I don't think we've seen any omnics with that array of sensors
I'm hoping it's a new character we haven't seen
it's got to be interesting being one of the very few omnics left after Invasion
I mean.. I want to hear that story fr
Guys, when did Doomfist loose his arm? As far as I remember he had both arms when he escaped prision
he lost his arm fighting in the omnic crisis and has used a prosthetic
it's a very advanced and realistic prosthetic because that's what his family's business specialized in
Didn't the Omnic crisis happen before that battle? I'm still learning about the lore so sorry if im wrong
Doc has a more detailed timeline up in this channel's pins but I'm pretty sure Akande lost his arm during the crisis and then he wasn't allowed to be a martial artist pro anymore so he turned to crime/training under the second doomfist
he then killed the second doomfist and became doomfist, he got arrested by overwatch in singapore and was jailed, he escaped jail and stole back the gauntlet and attacked Numbani
But in the cinematic where he breaks out of prison after being defeated by Winston he still has both arms
||Akande Ogundimu was the son of a wealthy Nigerian family who owned a prosthetic-technology company. Well-trained and proficient in a wide spectrum of bone-shattering fighting styles, Ogundimu’s stellar professional fighting career was cut short with the loss of his right arm during the Omnic Crisis. And while his family’s technology could replace his arm, without the challenge and crucible of competition, Ogundimu felt utterly lost. In that time, he searched for something to devote himself to. It was only when the current Doomfist, Akinjide Adeyemi, tapped him to join his ranks that Ogundimu saw his way forward.
Nvm, I thought he had both arms but one was a cybernetic. Looked normal at first lol
he has a prosthetic in the prison break the prosthetic is super advanced and realistic but you can see it
Ive always aaid the way we could get max is a long range controlled mech like how the race cars are in circuit. But that was always assuming doom would force him to find a way to fight
The mech would be called the Dealer
The only way max could be a hero, if he was controlling something remotely tbh. Would suit his character of "not getting his hands dirty" or whatever
?
Needs for the new season can't be that bad...
def can trust
I dunno
Im just waiting for new characters released so in the file there would be the voice line about shield generator
Cuz for some reason almost every new character has it
Its so if they want to they can bring it back in say stadium
Still silly that they keep having them in the files
I want to say something but don't get me wrong
Domino is really great design for a Vishkar Tank but i wish her biolight color was something other than blue
Also i lowkey wish she had two more bionical arms so she could have given the aspect of looking like a Goddess
pretty sure blue is just the standard colour for hard-light but ik what u mean
it makes sense for her representing the organisation
