lore-discussion

[digital linden]

if the leaks abt lifeweaver getting a mythic skin r true, i'd love for him to get a druid themed one

[spare fox]

they're not true, or at least the leaks are fake and unsubstantiated

we haven't gotten any hints or clues about s18 yet and they're probably holding off for a big reveal at ChinaJoy

[digital linden]

yh true

i'm excited for wuyangs hero reveal, just rlly hoping they don't fuck with his original design much

juno had minor changes with her armour placement iirc

[fossil wren]

Ramattra mythic

Trust me

[shy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[past copper]

Didn’t consider Torb for something like that, but sure

I was thinking something more along the lines of like gardeners/botanists and garden bugs

[lime storm]

Do y'all think venture is digging in they butt

[crisp helm]

Oh

Uhm

[spare fox]

please don't engage in the shitposting

and also don't shitpost

[mossy vale]

Maybe, they do eat rocks

[lime storm]

They know something we don't

Perhaps we should eat rocks as well.

[mossy vale]

Maybe that’s the awakening zen had been a part of, and since venture goes to historical landmarks, they probably discovered the truth (definitely canon trust me)

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[mossy vale]

It was not that bad :(

[candid helm]

Imagine hanzo using blade with his two dragons

[spare fox]

I do wonder if there will be an instance wayyyy down the line in the lore where Hanzo uses the blade again
like, out of arrows, Genji's injured badly

[candid helm]

That would be cool and scary

We saw genji with one dragon and he's insanely strong , even tho the cybernetic body helps him

[tardy nymph]

I mean he said he would never touch one again

[spare fox]

In the narrative world, that is what's known as a chekhov's gun

[steel jacinth]

Is Hanzo strong enough to hold a sword?

What if his muscle memory takes over and he tries using sword as arrow

So many questions, no answers

[spare fox]

lol I wanted to compare it to Thor's hammer and Capt America

[tardy nymph]

For some reason I like the idea of Hanzo getting a cool cyberpunk aesthetic suit of samurai armor

Idk if it’s just me but I feel like some of the characters in Overwatch really capture the futuristic feel and some really don’t

[spare fox]

but if they all did, then there'd be a lot of same-ness

they all have unique ratios of traditional-to-futuristic

[tardy nymph]

I guess

But shouldn’t there be a common theme

Like Tracer is obviously very diff from Winston and Doom and Soldier

But they all kinda futuristic

[spare fox]

That's the thing, there's a diversity in how futuristic and how traditional heroes are

There's basically a spectrum, on one side you have heroes with mostly traditional looks like Hanzo, Lifeweaver, Cass and Ashe

And then there's 100% futuristic like Sojourn, Genji, Winston

[lyric ravine]

I want an account to play with, my account has been hacked 🥹

[worthy rose]

Not the place for this gng

[hollow mountain]

https://youtu.be/36jSU02R5aA?si=-1xPfXblfC19FRM1

Only viable overwatch lore

[spare fox]

Any last-minute lore-related predictions for the midseason patch that drops today?

or what you all hope to see?

Wuyang hints? Voicelines?

[peak escarp]

don't get your hopes up

[spare fox]

I'm not

just trying to get discussion going and interested in what others have to say

[opaque tundra]

I think at this rate we’ll get Wuyang after his debut

They might be saving his hero trailer and comic for Gamescon and other events this summer

[spare fox]

yeah there's ChinaJoy next week I believe so it would make sense

[tardy nymph]

Don’t they usually have like little hints hidden around maps

I don’t know when the timing for this stuff usually is

But I presume it’s before the official full hero reveal

So I’d presume we get something for Wuyang to hint at what his lore is

[peak escarp]

teasers can be in the game months in advance, but lately they've been added the season before

like with the shooting star for Juno and the tablet in Circuit Royale for Freja

[spare fox]

they've been kind of all over the place with teasers, taking into account the entirety of OW2's hero releases

map teasers are kind of the norm but it's not out of the norm to get something else or even nothing

I think with Lifeweaver the only thing we got was a little flower emoji tweeted out the day before

I think the wanted posters on Suravasa were intended to be a teaser but that wound up getting pushed back

[tardy nymph]

Mmmm

[spare fox]

so Wuyang is from Wuxing University's Water College

I'm guessing he's a student since he looks young but could be faculty/research

[shy dagger]

They also described him as “rebellious”, guess it explains his enthusiastic face

Oh god pls don’t make him another Kiriko though😭😭

[fossil wren]

I wonder what other rebellious student alredy exists in the game

[fossil wren]

Water college 😭

[spare fox]

yeah idk maybe it sounds better in chinese?

or follows some standard format idk it doesn't exactly sound creative

[fossil wren]

Anyway, where are you guys getting this info from?

[spare fox]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24216161/season-17-hits-with-a-midseason-surge/

[fossil wren]

Alright thanks

I definitely still think Wuyang will be related to the Collective

[spare fox]

maybe

I still like the relation to wancai hydroponics, I think hyper-nutritive water goes well with a water-based healer

[shy dagger]

Huh, weaver
But he’s (was) in vishkar I’m sure

[fossil wren]

Water is life, some say

Although this is too literal

[spare fox]

Yes but hydroponics specifically refers to the tech that allows plants to grow without soil

We see the systems on the Antarctica map and Horizon

[azure flint]

"water college" definitely sounds interesting

[fossil wren]

Since when water is a professional career 😭

[tardy nymph]

Developing special water specifically

Science stuff

Wuyang sounding extremely Lifeweaver esc

Hope he has a different personality

Support personalities are decently varied but would hate for them to fall into a cycle

They seem to be doing a lot of “rebelling against the system” esc heroes

And I don’t necessarily mind I mean it’s very relevant to the Overwatch core plot line since its an illegal vigilante organization

But it could get very annoying fast

If they just end up having the same repetitive message over and over

Freja I feel like is interesting because she actually has tremendous respect for Overwatch as an organization or institution

She didn’t rebel as much as the people rebelled against Overwatch and she was left behind to find something else

[vivid linden]

Hey

[hushed bloom]

gency is canon

[spare fox]

So many new Cassidy interactions 👀 possible incoming Cass mythic soon?

[fossil wren]

N o

For my own sanity

Please no

[peak escarp]

I hope it's good

[fossil wren]

Guys, what would be a good theme for a mythic Cassidy skin?

[spare fox]

hm they could full-on lean into the cowboy theme, like many other mythics and lean into American SW lore and legends

or just follow one of that season's sub-themes

which rn we don't know anything about lol

[tardy nymph]

Idk how you make Cassidy more cowboy like tho

Feel like that has the potential to be very underwhelming

[spare fox]

idk I guess the same way you make genji more cyborg ninja?

[tardy nymph]

Yeah true ig lol

That skin is fire and it is just Genji lol

[spare fox]

like the cutomization is most of the draw

[tardy nymph]

You got me there

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

[spare fox]

just an idea from me, not a designer, but they could lean into the customization aspect by having super-authentic traditional as some of the options and then as other options they could go all-in futuristic sci-fi cowboy

[past copper]

It doesn’t have to be a full on cowboy theme ya know

[spare fox]

oh I know

[past copper]

Anything with a hat can work for him

[spare fox]

just brainstorming whatever's potential

[past copper]

For example, you could get a pirate mythic outta Cole

Or maybe they can go into something like old west myths and legends

[fossil wren]

A hook instead of his metal arm

[fossil wren]

A skeleton cowboy

[fossil wren]

Hmmm

https://x.com/wiki_ow/status/1947810257088241888?t=w0zkzgHs6xfy-3P2dyNLJA&s=19

wiki (@wiki_ow)

[OW2 - 2.17.1]
Wuyang's Perk Preview

May change before release.
#Overwatch2 #Overwatch

X · Jul 23, 2025, 12:05 AM

https://x.com/BlurkLink/status/1947850064182788111?t=-9wtgPKvaSDgQhxLkBDhhQ&s=19

BlurkLink Facu (@BlurkLink)

En la página latina de overwatch 2 te aparece para seleccionar wuyang pero no deja entrar a su pagina

X · Jul 23, 2025, 2:43 AM

[fossil wren]

He looks handsome

[shy dagger]

Omg thank you idk why people are calling him ugly

• This is probably not his final look, they have a tendency to polish new heroes’ faces

[fossil wren]

Nevermind

He is ugly

[shy dagger]

2/10 ragebait

[fossil wren]

Genji face

White man number 56

[shy dagger]

-3/10 ragebait

[peak escarp]

[fossil wren]

Anyway, to be honest, he looks more serious than in his concept art

[fossil wren]

I wonder if Rushing Torrent is his ult

Wait nevermind

Maybe its Guardian Wave

Rushing Torrent sounds like a ability of his kit

[worthy rose]

Are you talking about Elden ring

[peak escarp]

no

[narrow compass]

he looks too nonchalant

[tardy nymph]

Rushing Torrent sounds like a speed boost

Ebb and Flow probably relates to a damaging wave ability probably travels along the ground

Tho since it’s called Guardian Wave maybe it blocks incoming damage or at least reduces it

Water orbs is probably his primary

I presume he carries 2 since his perk mentions he gets to carry 3

“Controlling” his water orbs is probably related to that unique primary fire they were talking about

I figured it was gonna be physics based like Balls movement maybe I’m right

Idk how he gets the empowerment for exploding his water orbs

That seems unclear

[cerulean needle]

Will overwatch continue the invasion missions?

[spare fox]

Most likely they won't

They are promising to pick up the ball on story and narrative though

[velvet granite]

hes ugly af what is this..

[tardy nymph]

He ain’t ugly

He does look significantly more smug than in his concept art

But I mean Tracer looks like that too

[velvet granite]

yeah i wanted to say he looks like a lesbian

[shy dagger]

For him it makes sense cause he’s described as “rebellious”.
Like that smirk of his makes sense cause it tells you he’s up to no good

[vale birch]

is she aging? i thought she was supposedly 18 but the OW site says shes 21

[nimble sandal]

She was originally designed to be 16, then changed to be 19 in OW1. With the 2 year time skip between OW1 and OW2, she's now 21

[vale birch]

oh ok, thanks for explaining

[opaque tundra]

??? I don’t think there ever was an underaged hero?

[vale birch]

Orisa is 1 years old

[opaque tundra]

I mean like human underage heroes. Orisa’s a robot so it kinda doesn’t count

[vale birch]

she a baby

[opaque tundra]

Indeed

[vale birch]

we all know Venture sounds the youngest but they aged her at 26

Illari is the youngest at 18, Juno is 19

ooo The hamster is 16 lol

Sigma is the oldest at 64

[peak escarp]

Echo is 14

...they really replied to a comment from 2 years ago

D.Va wasn't designed to be 16, she was 19 from the start

what does "designed to be 16" even mean?

[shy dagger]

What’s that in hamster years though

Average hamster lifespan is 2-3 years.
Bruh he’s like 8x that

Hammond will be like if a human lives to be 500 years old

[vale birch]

640 following the same math... 500 would mean average human life is 62 😦

[mossy vale]

In some of her concept art, she appeared to be 9-10 if I remember correctly. Like a little kid piloting a mech kinda thingy

[loud marsh]

He isn't an average hamster. You seen his size?

[alpine locust]

bowling ball ahh build

[peak escarp]

in some of Hammond's concept art he was a cat with a jetpack

doesn't mean he is one

[spare fox]

right, part of design process is just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks and then iterating iterating iterating

they didn't from the get-go think "this character will be a little girl"

[mossy vale]

Yeah I know

I was just saying her designs started as that, but then they changed it

And Winston’s concept art is very cute!!

That’s another one I love where there was a lot of change

[peak escarp]

only... two heroes have had their ages retconned? Zenyatta was 20 in OW1 which was changed to 33 in OW2 when they settled on the omnic crisis lore, and Sojourn's age went from 47 to 51 so that her twin sister wouldn't be a preteen mother

and so her age of enlistment would make sense

I think when she was first added, Brigitte's age was briefly listed as 28, but it was quickly corrected to 23

and Kiriko's age is still incorrectly listed as 21 - she should he 26

[grand wedge]

The thing is, they made her character a young adult who just left her mother’s home to live on her own. That fit the 21 yo narrative. But in the same time, they wanted her to grow up alongside the Shimada, and that’s why her age doesn’t work.

[spare fox]

26 and leaving home for the first time still fits, especially in a traditional family

And wasn't she living with her grandmother?

AND it's not a typical situation either, their family is on the bad side of a yakuza gang

[latent lark]

"He looks like Hazard he has same face syndrome"

people need to get their eyes checked

[spare fox]

Ugh don't get me started on the "Freja is a reskinned Widow"

[peak escarp]

they've said that about every new female hero

[tardy nymph]

Overwatch does have some relatively similar faces

Whether it be artistic direction or just wanting to slightly change models

The old man from kiriko cinematic and the police guy from sojourn cinematic do resemble each other

[past copper]

Funny thing is, it’s idiots who don’t design characters in ANY way, shape, or form saying they look the same as someone else

[vapid tusk]

can someone give me a list of all sources where mei appears in the story (cinematics, comics, shorts, etc)

[bold fern]

have yall spotted any ingame teasers of aqua yet

@shy dagger

i hope it isnt just puddles of water

[fossil wren]

No

Let's hope they're not in Aatlis because that map is never played

[peak escarp]

you can just load into a custom game and search

[peak escarp]

?

[bold fern]

oh mb

[bold fern]

gonna try that with wrecking ball later, thx

[past copper]

I mean, I’ve played on Aatlis and honestly can’t find any clues to him

In terms of any hints to a hero, Aatlis seems to be greatly lacking

Only thing I can say is there are a few spots close to water, but I don’t know if that’s hinting at him or not

[shy dagger]

Nope

[bold fern]

i hope its related to his staff

[spare fox]

hm I wonder if it was inspired by Dr. Ziegler's healing staff, whether he developed it or not

[leaden hornet]

but iz true doe

ackshually not a reskin but dey look similar

[peak escarp]

everyone looks similar

it's called having an art style

[leaden hornet]

tru...

[mossy vale]

Which fanships would be most likely in terms of lore? I wanna draw two characters but I wanna do some characters with chemistry lmao. I know lifeweaver and bap have a voice line that may hint at something?

[peak escarp]

if you want most likely, you have to look at who has met

Bap and Lifeweaver have never met, but Bap and Cassidy have, and Baptiste has shown interest in Cassidy

Cassidy is a generally flirty guy, but so far he hasn't flirted with any male heroes, only women

there's hints at possible romance between Mercy and Genji, and Pharah seems to have strong feelings for Mercy

Brigitte has a crush on someone unknown

fanships don't tend to respect canon much

[tardy nymph]

Lifeweaver and Bap def don’t have a thing

But they’re both you could say “promiscuous”

Single ready to mingle casually

[mossy vale]

That’s fair

I could’ve sworn bap and lifeweaver had a voice line hmm I gotta go back and check

[tardy nymph]

They do

It’s like “I’ve got a party I need someone” “oh I know this guy” “does he happen to be a handsome man from the Carribean” “he might just be”

Something like that

Very flirty

Giving summer fling vibes

[fossil wren]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1948496177940316583?t=sLZ8GypYSOV1R4ujs7qoNA&s=19

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

First Look at Wuyang in #Overwatch2 🌊

This image appeared in a Blizzard survey sent to players, revealing a first look at his character model ahead of his trial, which starts August 14.

Are you excited for this new support? 💭

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:31 PM

[fossil wren]

The main difference is the staff

😭

[fossil wren]

Wuyang kit

In the end the ingame teasers was Blizzard and their mistakes 😭

We do not know the true extent of sigma power

Symmettra is not a fighter and we dont know the true extent of her abilities using hard light

[shy dagger]

Wait, the og 2D staff still has red. They just removed the clutter on it.
The head part looked weird at first but now looking at it, it seems like it’s supposed to split in half to release the water orbs

[fossil wren]

And Zenyatta none of his abilities are canon

But Sigma probably would be the strongest

[past copper]

His staff certainly seems to make sense now

It looked as though it wasn’t all that technical in the art, but looking now it does

Sure we will learn more about how this guy’s tech is supposed to work, as it looks like it’s required for his staff and glove work together in tandem

My question is, will this guy be a game changer or not? We will have to wait and see, as the abilities descriptions don’t do them justice

[fossil wren]

The hierarchy of power in overwatch supports is about to change

[past copper]

Until he gets nerfed

[fossil wren]

Until that

[peak escarp]

he looks like he's in his 20s

I hope he is

[past copper]

They wouldn't drop the ball on another character's age

[peak escarp]

what do you mean

[past copper]

I mean they wouldn’t be dumb enough to screw a character’s age again. They’re still not living down the whole issue with Kiriko

Although, doesn’t seem to be their top priority to fix her age

[tardy nymph]

Well he doesn’t seem related to much current lore

So I don’t think it’ll be an issue

He seems more like Venture or Illari

Expansion on lore

On the world building

But otherwise disconnected from the core group

[past copper]

I can’t help wondering if this is on purpose at this point

So that they can work on something big for the main story focused on Overwatch, Null Sector, and Talon without having to incorporate something new every time a new hero appears

[fossil wren]

I keep saying that Wuyang is part of the collective

[past copper]

Honestly, not a bad way to do it. Add more to team B without putting extra work into updating team A

[fossil wren]

Please Blizzard

PLEASE

Null Sector New Hero

That's all I ask

[past copper]

Idk. Seems like he could be apart of Vishkar. After all, nothing sells hardlight buildings like anything with water connected to them

Don’t know, just spitballing

[peak escarp]

I don't think he'll be connected to any existing faction

[fossil wren]

I just hope they don't create another faction with Wuyang

[past copper]

It’s hard to say for me. I don’t know why it is, but I’m getting Lifeweaver vibes from him

[fossil wren]

That's why I said he could be part of the collective

[peak escarp]

if they do it'll be a faction that never comes up again, or is functionally irrelevant

[fossil wren]

Since I saw his design it gave me a lot of lifeweaver vibes

[fossil wren]

Wuxing University’s Water College Faction 🔥

[past copper]

I don’t that. Way too lazy

[peak escarp]

Wuxing University is already a new faction

[past copper]

That’s like saying the university Moira went to suddenly becomes a faction because Moira went there

Although, I suppose it has a stronger part in the story after the Phreaks little mission

[fossil wren]

Do you guys think hero 45 will be from any faction? Or at least have ties with some

[peak escarp]

what does the university Moira went to have to do with the Phreaks?

[past copper]

Wasn’t it where that stuff they stole being studied?

[fossil wren]

That's what I'm wondering too

[fossil wren]

It was in Oasis

😭

[peak escarp]

yeah it was in Oasis, in Moira's lab

[past copper]

Also, if they do Lunar New Year, they better give him a Wukong skin

It’s a waste of potential if they don’t

[fossil wren]

Winston didn't have a wukong skin?

I'm sure I remember that he had one

[past copper]

He did

[fossil wren]

Poseidon Wuyang would also work but Ramattra already has that skin

[past copper]

But Sun Wukong is universally depicted with a magical staff

[fossil wren]

Dc Collab Aquaman Wuyang 😭

[past copper]

They rolled with Winston as Wukong because of the fact he’s an ape

Wuyang as Wukong honestly couldn’t possibly make more sense for any character

[fossil wren]

Besides that he is also Chinese

[past copper]

Chinese, uses a staff that seems “magic” and no telling how his move set looks yet

Only sad thing to expect from this character is the obvious

He’s gonna be like Doomfist 😭

[peak escarp]

like Doomfist how?

[past copper]

Melee with a punch instead of using his staff

[peak escarp]

maybe, maybe not

very few heroes use a weapon for their melee

that's not exclusive to Doomfist

[past copper]

No, but if you have a melee weapon, using it for melee makes more sense

Rein and Brig don’t have a problem with this

[peak escarp]

if it's a staff that shoots/controls water, then maybe it isn't a melee weapon

[past copper]

Doom does tho

[peak escarp]

you would expect a punch from the gauntlet to do far more than normal melee damage

that's why he punches with his hand, not the gauntlet

[past copper]

Yeah, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have a quick jab with his gauntlet

[peak escarp]

that's literally the justification the devs gave

I don't think anyone really cares

[shy dagger]

Ngl I’d be fine if they redid Greek gods for characters that fit more.

Would also give the chance for them to redo hades cause why did Pharah get hades and not reaper🤦‍♂️

Maybe the gladiator lady can be Ares too?

[fierce mango]

Why there's even a lore discussion

when they stopped the lore like a while ago

[opaque tundra]

Silence non-believer

We literally got the news that they’re going to continue the story

[pastel stirrup]

^^

[peak escarp]

if you think the lore has stopped then you haven't been paying attention

[past copper]

As tough as it may be to believe, I genuinely think most people who play Overwatch aren’t actually aware lore exists

I don’t know how that’s possible any more than how some claim the lore is dead

[fossil wren]

Since pve is dead I doubt most people will care or be interested in the Lore, since pve serves precisely as a greater exposure to it, Also let's be honest the average player won't bother to go read a comic or a short story about X character

[past copper]

True

Also, great idea for a collab

[fossil wren]

Good idea

Problem? Baptiste has been forgotten by Blizzard when it comes to skins

[keen swift]

that’s quite silly. i enjoy that idea

[fossil wren]

Poor Juno will be captured by the men in black 😭

[past copper]

I mean, I think Ramattra would make more sense to be the alien they capture

That is to say, Juno can get an alien skin too and be one of the ones Agents K and J work with

You make a limited event out of that too. Like Yeti Hunt

Plus, this skin would finally get a good theme to work with

[peak escarp]

the average player doesn't even read patch notes or dev blogs

[fossil wren]

That too

[tardy nymph]

YouTube videos tho

The cinematics have huge views

[marsh wave]

I LOVE OVERWATCH LORE

Almost more than the actual game

I just wish they would actually develop it instead of hinting at the Overwatch is back after being shutdown idea

[peak escarp]

it's a work in progress

and we've seen Overwatch do two missions since coming back

[tardy nymph]

It’s a weird direction for the story

If the problem was largely internal how does a vigilante organization without controls manage that

How do they scout the right people for the new Overwatch

Could we have people scouted that end up snitching?

Or like people acting as spies trying to get in and sabotage the organization again?

[past copper]

A lot of it points to an unknown organization responsible for Overwatch being shut down, potentially having set up the incident that would mark the beginning of their downfall

And in the end, having been responsible for the HQ being destroyed before it was shut down as a whole

Why this is, we have yet to learn

I’d like to think Overwatch or Blackwatch was getting too close to something they shouldn’t have, which the mysterious organization within the shadows couldn’t allow

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

Would be a cool villain

Above Talon even?

[past copper]

No telling. Only that whoever this group is, it’s connected to many groups and people in some way. At least that’s what Sombra has found

[tardy nymph]

Mm

[past copper]

This is old, but still relevant

More or less, clearly not labeled by a genius

[tardy nymph]

Straight up Illuminati

Reminds me of that nigahiga video

[past copper]

Only recent info on the Eye, is that it is responsible for the Swiss HQ being destroyed, not from Jack and Gabriel fighting

But… there might be small hints to them too

[peak escarp]

current evidence suggests that the explosion took them both by surprise

while they were fighting

[past copper]

That I know

I like to think the Eye is interested in or connected to naturally occurring Vanadium, but that might be a stretch

That. And that Ramattra is using a native Vanadium cache within Antarctica to power his army

[fossil wren]

Cole Cassidy

Literally

Bro recruited Baptiste, Zarya, D.va and Pharah

[fossil wren]

Big ass voslkaya mechs 😭

Also loud europeans is a great description for Reinhardt and Torb

[covert thicket]

Are there any faction or groups that don't have a character in game ?

[spare fox]

Sort... of

It depends on what you count as a faction and what counts as "having a character"

Like is Lumerico or Volskaya factions? And do Sombra and Zarya working against or for them?

There's also sub-factions of junkers that don't have reps, but we have plenty of junkers

[fossil wren]

Hashimotos

[fossil wren]

Honestly, I wouldn't consider Lumerico as a faction, although i would consider Los Muertos as one

Voslkaya is a more curious case, Since we have Zarya although Zarya is part of Overwatch she worked for Katya in the hunt of sombra

[spare fox]

Los Muertos, Jackpot Gang

[covert thicket]

Having a character as in like a playable hero

[fossil wren]

The Hashimotos

Meka Squad?

Oh yeah Gwishin too

[spare fox]

Well Meka obv we have Dva

[fossil wren]

And the Siberian omnic forces

[covert thicket]

What faction is Wuwei in ? He doesn't look ow

[fossil wren]

We don't know Wuyang faction yet

[covert thicket]

His leaks didn't say anything?

[fossil wren]

We only know his appearance and abilities

We don't know his lore

[spare fox]

Gwishin and other null sector attackers, we're not sure how many are actually omnics and not just warbots

[fossil wren]

I personally think it will be part of the collective or independent

Like Illari who also has no faction

[spare fox]

He's from Wuxing Water College

But no further details about that

[fossil wren]

Please Blizzard don't make that a real faction 😭

[spare fox]

I mean, "factions" aren't a thing so

It's a school in China we can fairly assume

[fossil wren]

Oasis technically has Moira but most people relate Moira to Talon so... Technically they don't have a hero that is 100% of that faction

[fossil wren]

Null sector only has Ramattra as an true omnic, the rest are warbots

Although there are rebel cells that sympathize with Null Sector or are affiliated with it, Personally I would like to see Ramattra opinion on that

[spare fox]

well Ramattra's the only omnic with Null Sector that we know of

there very well could be others and I'd be surprised if there weren't

another thing that interests me are characters we know of but don't know much more about - Like Dr. Naughton from the enhanced soldier project who basically disappeared

whoever Winston is chatting with - harOLD or whatever

[fossil wren]

Honestly considering what happened in Kings Row and how Ramattra's attitude made Nameless and Zera abandon him, I would be surprised if he had any other omnic by his side

[spare fox]

we also don't have a "representative" from the U.N. really, like how are they reacting to Overwatch restarting - after they were shut down and made illegal

[fossil wren]

Ramattra is too stubborn and doesnt really accept the opinions of others

[fossil wren]

Now that you mention it we certainly don't have a Helix hero either

[fossil wren]

A Helix hero could serve to represent both Helix and the UN

[spare fox]

eh, maybe but doubtful

something else to consider would be maps that aren't associated with any heroes

[fossil wren]

Aatlis, Hollywood, Blizzard World and?

[spare fox]

Havana, Midtown

Colosseo, Esperanza

[fossil wren]

Well yeah, Havana is more related to Maximilien

[spare fox]

well he was there but I wouldn't count that tbh

[fossil wren]

I guess Hero 45 will be related to the Colosseo

[spare fox]

that's what it's looking like

Redwood Dam is also an interesting one

[fossil wren]

Well Maximilien is the owner of Don Rumbotico and the Sea Fort soo

[spare fox]

yes it's related to Overwatch but we don't really know much about it

[fossil wren]

Do we know where it is located?

It looks like Canada if I'm honest or some part in the US

[spare fox]

The two most likely places imo are northern California (where red woods are native) or possibly western Canada - possibly related to those Canadian floods that were brought up in Declassified that OW helped with

[spare crane]

Okey guys. Where is EMRE?

[opaque tundra]

We don’t know

Him being in Havana is a theory that exists I think

[tardy nymph]

Is Pharah not helix

[merry mason]

Or anymore she’s in OW now

[fossil wren]

Not anymore

[tardy nymph]

What would a Helix hero look like then

Is Pharah unique or is her whole body suit helix tech that’s standardized

[spare fox]

looks standard issue if you go by her comic

so that new Loverwatch dating sim... is that confirmed to be China-only?

or is it just not yet announced elsewhere? because they said there will be new content for S18

[hushed jetty]

i PRAY we get an english release

i will sob

[spare fox]

I don't see any reason not to

I'm wondering if they're just holding back on the official western release for a big S18 announcement

Aaron did say S18 would be nuts so

maybe the theme will be a bunch of shipping bait

it generates a lot of interaction, that's for sure

[fossil wren]

From what I saw, Genji has a LOT of gency bait

[spare fox]

yaaaas!!

[fossil wren]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1949214868374204622?t=N9TBmmaZzJqQsPxvpsmNBg&s=19

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

Possible Future Collabs in #Overwatch2 ✨

A Japanese survey revealed potential upcoming collaborations, including Cyberpunk: Edgerunners, Hello Kitty, League of Legends, Stray Kids, and more.

What skins would YOU like to see? 👀

X · Jul 26, 2025, 9:06 PM

[shy dagger]

Teen titans and God of War would go so hard

So would Skyrim

Honestly surprised that Disney is willing to collab

[fossil wren]

No star wars

Sad

[snow skiff]

Hooo

Yoooo

[past copper]

I honestly can’t see Teen Titans happening

Anything with Warners name on it is doomed to fail these days

I also don’t see much working out for Disney, unless they’re willing to actually share the money they make

[spare fox]

Anything can happen

I'm def not saying it's certain or anything but
Don't rule out a collab just because it's with competition

[past copper]

Believe me, Warners & Disney aren’t competition. One can’t handle money right and the other wants too much money

[digital linden]

for the skyrim collab i can imagine freja with a dragonborn skin and her ult voiceline is fus ro dah

[mossy vale]

Elden ring and Skyrim would be so baller

[spare fox]

Nier automata skins would be kickass

And I want a KPDH collab too

Reaper's already got the demon skin 🤣

[past copper]

Lara Croft Tracer, calling it now

Don’t know which Tomb Raider they’d use tho. Probably the Survivor Trilogy version

[fossil wren]

Lara croft freja

[past copper]

Highly doubtful

Lara Croft got two guns and she’s British. No brainer it’s Tracer

Lara skin for Tracer. Jonah skin for Mauga

[sweet vault]

winton

[spare fox]

Yeah Tracer Lara would be good but it'd be weird seeing her with longer hair

[past copper]

They’ve literally changed characters hair length before

For many skins

Hair length doesn’t matter

[spare fox]

I didn't say it would matter just that it would be weird if she had long hair

IF it were to happen, they'd give her a low ponytail like the one in the show screenshot above so as not to mess with her silhouette as much, probably

[peak escarp]

if Overwatch did a Critical Role collab I would die

Critical Role is the whole reason I play Overwatch

[shy dagger]

This may sound odd but I’d kill for a tf2 collab lol

[tardy nymph]

Does Tracer actually have long hair skins?

Like I think Cadet has the braids

Maybe in collabs or something not on the heroes page

[past copper]

Also, to the people interested in a Teen Titans Collab, meet your chosen heroes. Take a guess who’s who

[fossil wren]

Robin, Cyborg, Raven? Starfire, Beastboy, Slade? Idk who is ram ngl

[spare fox]

Honestly Juno for Starfire she talks exactly the same

[past copper]

Illari makes more sense then Juno due to her abilities

[past copper]

Ramattra would be Trigon

[fossil wren]

Captive Sun works too well with Starfire

If they do Call of Duty, this NEEDS to happen

[past copper]

Wuyang - Robin
Doomfist - Cyborg
Freja - Raven
Illari - Starfire
Winston - Beast Boy
Reaper - Slade
Ramattra - Trigon

[fossil wren]

Also this one

[past copper]

Probably grasping straws with Ram, but come on, they could make him look like an interdimensional demon

[fossil wren]

Yeah, I'm honestly not entirely convinced by Trigon Ram

METAL GEAR HOLY SHIT

[past copper]

Another to consider is Venture as Terra then. She honestly deserved more, but F warners for pulling the plug on season 6 being made

[fossil wren]

Armstrong Ram so I can make the nanomachines joke so Doc gets angry

[past copper]

His name is Armstrong. Come on, think like Blizzard for a second

[fossil wren]

But he got nanomachines son

[past copper]

But Doomfist got the strong arm son

[peak escarp]

at least you didn't say Reaper

[fossil wren]

Snake - Soldier
Liquid Snake - Reaper
Raiden - Genji
Revolver Ocelot - Cassidy
Senator Armstrong - Ramattra
Jestream Sam - Lucio
Sniper Wolf/Quiet - Widowmaker
Vulcan Raven - Mauga

[fossil wren]

Reaper works better as liquid ngl

[past copper]

Personally, I’d be kinda interested in Kingdom Hearts, but I see that being tough to work with

[fossil wren]

Psycho Mantis - Moira

[past copper]

Mostly because, well, idk if Donald n Goofy are needed per say, but…

But beyond that, I see Genji as Sora and Hanzo as Riku

[fossil wren]

FIFA collab would be so ass

Like What the hell are they going to do? Neymar Lucio lmao?

[past copper]

They already put heroes in sports skins. I feel like doing something with FIFA would just be an overpriced version of those

[fossil wren]

Probably will be the heroes wearing the official shirt of their national teams

Or maybe some football club

But it still doesn't work

[past copper]

Now Futurama… that would be crazy to see

[peak escarp]

JQ Leela

[fossil wren]

Bender Bastion

[past copper]

We need a Fry

[fossil wren]

Idk

[past copper]

Hmmm. Soldier 76 as Fry?

[fossil wren]

Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what is that?

[fossil wren]

Could work

Elden ring collab

[peak escarp]

Critical Role is a live-play D&D stream where a bunch of nerdy ass voice actors sit around and play Dungeons and Dragons

Matt Mercer is their DM

[fossil wren]

To be honest, I've never played any of the games of fromsoftware

[past copper]

No. Better. Mei as Fry

[peak escarp]

they already added Mercer's "How do you want to do this?" catchphrase as a voice line for Cassidy

[fossil wren]

Ohhh i see, I like D&D although I never really played it directly, I was always a spectator of campaigns that my friends did

[past copper]

Hmm. In a Futurama collab, would that make Moira the Professor

“Good news everyone”

[peak escarp]

it's a bit old, but this fanmade trailer sums up Critical Role pretty well https://youtu.be/DXu7W44rWbg

[fossil wren]

League of Legends Collab

Those riot guys definitely wouldn't do it

Although if it did happen I'd probably convince a friend of mine to get back into Overwatch

[past copper]

Also, I still feel in a TT collab, Freja would hands down make a perfect Raven

But then… I remembered Moira exists

[fossil wren]

Sombra mains on their way to say why Sombra is better as raven

I really need Transformers Collab 2.0 😭

The one we had was so ass

[past copper]

She’s not. Freja honestly works for a number of reasons. 1) she wears a hooded cloak 2) she can float 3) her ultimate already sounds like it can be Raven’s signature spell

[fossil wren]

And I hadn't started playing at that time so I missed Ramattra Megatron

[fossil wren]

Moira could work but freja sounds better

[past copper]

Plus, you can easily make the hair and outfit work for Freja as Raven

Honestly, the fit couldn’t be better

[fossil wren]

God of war collab

Hanzo Atreus?

[past copper]

Only thing I can imagine with that is Doomfist as Kratos

Never got into GoW

[fossil wren]

The main problem is that we already have Nordic and Greek skins

[past copper]

Exactly why these collabs are only ideas, not genuined going to happen

Blizzard just trying to find what would interest players more

[fossil wren]

To be honest, I think Jujutsu Kaisen would win that survey

[past copper]

I’m kinda curious about Disney Villains

[fossil wren]

Me too

I guess they would be classic villains

[peak escarp]

"Disney Villains" is a franchise within Disney

https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Disney_Villains

[past copper]

Cool. I can see some villains not making the cut for a collab though. PR nightmares and all that

[peak escarp]

PR nightmares?

[peak escarp]

Moira Yzma pls and thx

[past copper]

One villain I see in here who’d receive nothing but negative reaction is Frollo

[fossil wren]

Facillier Baptiste

[peak escarp]

Frollo isn't that popular anyway

[fossil wren]

Maleficent Ashe?

[past copper]

I think he’s actually the most hated Disney villain

[peak escarp]

he's definitely the skeeviest

has a banger song though

[past copper]

Hellfire was and still is a banger of a song

Disney really cooked with that one, no pun intended

[fossil wren]

Quick top 3 Disney villains songs

[past copper]

Hellfire, The Oogie Boogie Song, and Be Prepared

[peak escarp]

you can thank Howard Ashman and Alan Menken for the music of the Disney renaissance, their music defined a generation

[fossil wren]

Friends on the other side is a banger too

[past copper]

True, but what can I say? Fan of the classics

[peak escarp]

anyway, we're getting off topic

[fossil wren]

Yeah

[past copper]

Also, Junker Queen as Red Queen and Ana as Evil Queen,

[peak escarp]

Ana as Mother Gothel - she's already got a "Mother knows best" voice line

[past copper]

True

[fossil wren]

Cass Captain Hook?

[past copper]

But I only considered that because of the Evil Queen’s hag transformation

[peak escarp]

I could see it

[past copper]

Hmm. Ram as Jafar?

[fossil wren]

Who for Cruella?

[peak escarp]

Ashe as Cruella

[fossil wren]

Hades Reaper?

[past copper]

Chernabog as either Reaper or Ram?

[fossil wren]

Unfortunately for Scar we don't have a lion in game

[past copper]

Well… we have Orisa

[fossil wren]

Don't even think about it

Too weird

[past copper]

Roadhog as Pete

[fossil wren]

Gaston Hanzo?

[fossil wren]

Ram Chernabog, Reaper Hades

[past copper]

Ohhh. I just got a good one. Reaper as one Disney’s darkest, but forgotten villains

The Horned King

[fossil wren]

I completely forgot about that guy

Although I think there is something we are not considering, There is no way that Kiriko, Mercy or Juno arent getting a skin

[past copper]

Only one I see out them getting a Disney villain skin is Mercy as Maleficent

[vapid tusk]

rein gets lion skins so maybe him?

[fossil wren]

Too weird

[vapid tusk]

beggars cant be choosers

[spare fox]

It doesn't have to be an exact cosplay for instance they've def exaggerated and used artistic license w collab skins before

Like Ein Wrecking Ball

[opaque tundra]

Can’t believe we’re taking about collab skins in the lore discussion channel

[oblique briar]

No one talks about how when Echo awoke for the reinstatement of Overwatch her babies which she birthed were kidnapped by Vishkar for Symmetra to use her children as Sentry Turrets, that's why Echo has a voiceline where she goes ''Burning them down'', that's her practising for when she catches Symmetra

[spare fox]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[burnt eagle]

Huhhhh

[spare fox]

Bruuhhh 👀 👀 👀

[tardy nymph]

What is Hanzo even doing

Like he’s just being sad now praying and shit

His entire relevance to the story is just nepotism no?

Being Genjis brother?

[modern chasm]

does anyone here remember those overwatch 1 gamemodes where you had to kill omnics

i miss em

[spare fox]

he's had a lot of character progression, actually, for the few times in lore we have seen him...
Dragons he went from being mournful and regretful about his past, especially for the fact he murdered Genji to learning that not only is Genji still alive, but forgives him and still sees him as his brother

[tardy nymph]

So what could his next move be

Like how does this change how he acts?

Cuz his voicelines give the impression he’s still mourning

Still in self conflict

[spare fox]

in the short story with Kiriko, he takes on Genji's challenge to be honorable, but bites off a bit more than he can chew with the Hashimoto. In spite of this, Kiriko helps him and he accepts her help and works with her to escape the Hashimoto and then take on the Null Sector invasion in Tokyo

which is where we left off with him

[spare fox]

well yes, the thing is that Genji has forgiven him, but Hanzo still hasn't forgiven himself. However, per his convo with Genji in Dragons, Hanzo has taken on the duty of acting with honor and honoring his duty as a Shimada to protect

he's not 100% there but there's still progress

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

[spare fox]

it's specifically a reaction to his flawed previous belief that he was acting with honor - to kill Genji and his duty and honor to mourn him with incense offerings and prayers when acting with real honor would be taking up his duty as the protector he was trained and brought up to be

sorry, I'm a writer (not for overwatch obv) so I study story structures and themes a lot

[opaque tundra]

That ominous gif does not necessarily mean it’s referring to Hanzo specifically

You never know

[spare fox]

Me, I didn't take it as Hanzo specifically but rather for the lore/ story in general

Also I'm pretty sure that gif is from the Tomb Raider anime, I think

[cerulean falcon]

how many countries is lw wanted in

[spare fox]

Either 7 or 17.. 17 I think but idr

[stone tapir]

We need more junkrat lore💔 all the junkers need more lore in general

[spare fox]

agree ngl

four heroes, should get four times the amount of lore not just throwing them in together

I want to see where their story is going, especially since we're promised a "road trip"

junker worldwide road trip sounds like a glorious disaster I want front row seats to

[stone tapir]

RIGHT OMG

[fossil wren]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1949590022723624998

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

More Potential Collabs in #Overwatch2 ✨

It appears that other brands have also been featured in the collaboration survey, including Pokémon, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Batman, Dragon Ball, and Twice.

Which one do you want to see most? 👀

X · Jul 27, 2025, 9:57 PM

Lord of the rings I BEG

Or Star Wars

Power Rangers would be funny since we would finally have real power rangers

[past copper]

They already did their own take on Star Wars and Power Rangers tho

[spare fox]

that really won't stop them from doing a collab tho

[past copper]

I mean, it certainly would for Power Rangers. The fuck they gonna do? Recolor the Ultrawatch skins? lol

[fossil wren]

Starwatch has nothing of the Star Wars aesthetic

[vapid tusk]

can't wait for hanzo to shoot out two dragonairs

i heard from someone that the hero after aqua is going to be a sword based hero

in which case, adventure time would go HARD

[peak escarp]

45 will be a sword wielding gladiator tank, yes

[steel jacinth]

Some kind of spear

[plain drum]

🥰

[spare fox]

it has started: the week of ChinaJoy Con

[long turtle]

who made juno shes think asf

[worldly dune]

think asf?

what she thinking about

[long turtle]

think as fuck dumbass

[worldly dune]

think?

[spare fox]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[spare fox]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1949832516573028843?t=15W1XMcrMkb8wJxpQMMg9Q&s=19

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

Get ready for more #Overwatch2 reveals 👀

Xbox has confirmed the game will appear during its Gamescom broadcast, possibly featuring the Season 18 trailer, Wuyang content, a new collaboration, or a surprise.

🗓️ Mark your calendars for August 21!

X · Jul 28, 2025, 2:01 PM

[mossy vale]

I think he meant thick but that makes it worse :/

[edgy pagoda]

another collab would be nice

wonder what'd it end up being

[spare fox]

I'm still holding out for story-related content

[edgy pagoda]

we can only hope 😭

i'd love anything story related atp

[obsidian gulch]

Well apparently they wanna bring back the short animation maybe even a series

A Netflix one

I’d binge watch the hell out of it

[fossil wren]

We can only hope we get Ramattra mythic

[fossil wren]

How many times have they repeated about the nerf collab?

[spare fox]

About 831 times

[peak escarp]

it's the first time I've seen them post about it

[latent lark]

last we saw of them outside of the Christmas comic was Junkerat and Roadhog showing Hammond and JQ the Omnium ship from the New Junk City Omnium.

[stone tapir]

Finally they are included in one thing

[latent lark]

yeah so far every overwatch 1 character has some sort of plotline in OW2 (except poor ashe who gets stories but is never given proper future goals outside of "I hate Cassidy"

[stone tapir]

I know but kiriko just came out and she already has more lore and more skins only because everyone thinks she's hot

But like I get what your saying

Ashe deserves more backstory

[peak escarp]

she's got plenty of backstory

what she needs is a goal

but she's a tertiary character, so she's unlikely to get much development

[drifting jewel]

im a femboy

[latent lark]

yeah characters like Life Weaver and Kiriko get more lore because their plots are currently tied to other returning characters like Symmetra and Hanzo, Ashe is no longer tied to Cassidy outside of history. Ashe either has a Illari style plot where she would be brought in as apart of another characters own plot or a new hero comes out and is some way given Ashe a storyline

[tardy nymph]

She’s kinda fulfilled her purpose no

[peak escarp]

YEP

[tardy nymph]

Ashe wanted to reclaim the wealth she had underneath her family

And she’s gotten that with the deadlock gang

I mean it’s kinda like the junkers

Their entire goal is just another heist

[latent lark]

not really

[tardy nymph]

How so

[latent lark]

the Junkers are trying to fix up the ship they found in the Heroes ascendant story

[tardy nymph]

Oh I didn’t know that

What ship

[latent lark]

the same ones that were used by the Omnics in the crisis

[tardy nymph]

What would they do with such a ship

[latent lark]

not said yet but its implied by the Stadium that Junker Queen will be the "Ruler of the New world"

and judging by the Christmas comic which showed Junkrat and Roadhog vibing with JQ and Hammond they are friends now

[tardy nymph]

Quite ambitious for some desert dwellers making cities out of scrap metal

[latent lark]

the very next story was Wrecking Ball stealing parts from Lijang tower

but yeah its going to be hobbled as hell

but they are al living in the ruins of an Omnium where the Ship was housed in secret (and literally only Junkrat knowing about it by accident)

[tardy nymph]

Maybe if Talon gets what they want and the world erupts into chaos again they would be a third party just taking advantage of the situation

[latent lark]

maybe although the Junkers arent inherently evil

[tardy nymph]

I mean

Leader of the new world?

What would that mean other than conquest

[latent lark]

I wounldnt be suprised if they just targeted the main cities of Australia since the outback was kinda left to rot

and it was the Stadium announcer who said it not JQ

[peak escarp]

it probably doesn't mean anything

it's just flavour text

[tardy nymph]

What exactly does Australia have to be liberated from tho

I mean sure the government did something wrong

[latent lark]

not sure lol

[tardy nymph]

But many innocents would die in such a conquest

I wouldn’t exactly call that morally neutral

Sounds like revenge more than justice

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

[latent lark]

like said its most likely flavor text and JQ just wants a new large ship to vibe on

[tardy nymph]

Right

[peak escarp]

she doesn't seem like the type to want to take over the world

she just wants to rule her own domain

[tardy nymph]

I heard she turned into a megalomaniac

No better than junker king

[latent lark]

nahh shes shown to e way better

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

That’s what I thought

Someone here corrected me tho

I thought she was a much more interesting character following her older self

Older motivations shown in the cinematic

[latent lark]

but yeah literally every other hero except Ashe has a running plotline

even Illari now

[tardy nymph]

Talons always looking for new recruits

Idk if the deadlock gang is significant enough to justify it tho

They kinda got destroyed by Cass singelahandedly

[latent lark]

it doesnt even have to be like an over arching plot

for example Sym's is just her trying to leave Vishkar

[tardy nymph]

Really

So she’s having a change of heart

[latent lark]

yeah its said in the Heroes ascendant book when she visits Life Weaver that she doesnt really see Vishkar in a good light but isnt ready to leave yet

[fossil wren]

Cass got plot armor tbf

[peak escarp]

I don't think plot armor was necessary here

he's a well trained agent and a crack shot

[latent lark]

so tldr on what Heroes ascendant was is a book describing what every character who wasnt in the PVE mode was doing during the events of Null Sectors global invasion
Rebuilding Ruins - Symmetra being tasked by Vishkar to recruit Life Weaver which he refused and the two fought Null Sector invading the Atlantic Arcology
**Unity **- Efi and Orisa fending off Null Sector and the new drones Efi built were enough protection for Numbani the two felt confident enough to leave to Protect the world (they later joined Overwatch)
Luck of the Draw - mostly Ashe and Bob being stuck in las vegas due to Null Sector and the two escaping back to Texas afterwards
A friendly Rivalry - Junkrat and Roadhog showing Junker Queen and Hammond his tresure which ends up being an Omnium Ship
Thoughtless gods - Hammond learning that the moon base apes are building something and swearing revenge on Luchang Interstellar
Where Honor Lives - Hanzo being rescued by Kiriko from the Hashimoto
Lost Ghosts - Ana and Soldier saving an Ex Overwatch agent from Talon then SOldier leaving to investigate what really happened to the Overwatch base leaving Ana o continue stopping Talon's hit list on Overwatch Agents
Lucky Man - Soldier meeting up with SOmbra who was revealed to be giving him info and she points him in the Direction of Oasis and its ties to the Eye conspiracy

[fossil wren]

Right now we'll probably be sticking with Soldier pov for at least a while, Although that is pure speculation on my part

[latent lark]

I agree I wouldnt be suprised if the next major story beat is him running into Hazard and the Phreaks at Morocco since Morocco is in between Peru and Oasis

the newest map shows Hazards in the area afterall

[fossil wren]

Soldier probably will also meet Venture in the future

[latent lark]

I hope so and I can see it happening

since Venture is investigateing their own Conspiracy with Talon which I kind believe is different than the one Sombra and Soldier are looking into since its implied Doomfist knows about what Venture is looking into while he doesnt know much about the Eye but Sombra contacting and even befriending Venture is enough to wrap them in the plot

enough that Sombra told Venture Reapers "nickname"

[fossil wren]

Freja plot will probably be resumed in the future as well, Emre has been so teased over the years to end up in nothing

[latent lark]

I would hope its leading up to Emre being released as a hero when they start properly pumping out the Plot they wanted to share as PVE

[fossil wren]

The interactions are not canon, Venture doesn't know Reaper identity and Sombra hasn't told them yet at least

[latent lark]

I know but it does show what Venture and Sombra's dynamic Would be

the PvP interactions are usually all Hypothetical unless mentioning a canon event

like Widow and Reaper both being personally pissed by bap even though the two probably werent anywhere near when he left talon

[fossil wren]

Baptiste knows important information of Talon so it makes sense that they want him back or dead

Honestly, what I want most is Sigma having a more active participation in the lore

[latent lark]

something I am glad about this season is Ashe and Cassidy's new interactions imply Ashe ossibly just wanting to move on from Cassidy

she doesnt even care about the Bike anymore

def leading up to even if its liek a one shot short story of her moving on from her past with him and wanting to move forward with her crew

[elfin bane]

that would be a good direction for her character i think

[hallow locust]

Yeah I guess

[candid helm]

Is zenyatta so strong ?
I don't think he became genji's master just to guide him

[opaque tundra]

It’s implied they sparred but it was mostly the guidance

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta isn't exceptionally strong

but he is an omnic, which makes him stronger than ordinary humans

[fossil wren]

What Zenyatta taught Genji was to accept himself, Zenyatta was his guide to finding peace with his new self

[leaden hornet]

zen is extremely stronk thats why he taught genji cuz hes stronk

mentally

[oblique briar]

Someone tell me allll the Moira lore I looooove Moira

[final stratus]

did yk

anas biotic rifle was initially only supposed to heal, but torb made it so that it can hurt people

[elfin bane]

yes and mercy DID NOT fw that

[leaden hornet]

torb lowkey goated cuz if not 4 him ana would jus be mercy 2.0 without da glock an dmg boost

gave ana dps on her primary what a goat

[peak escarp]

Ana was a sniper before she got the healing rifle

so her kill count is probably one of the highest in Overwatch

[celest prism]

guys how tf did kiriko grow up with genji and hanzo but is like 20 years younger than them?

[peak escarp]

she didn't

Kiriko’s childhood was shaped by the many powerful figures in her life. She swept the floors of the Kanezaka shrine for her grandmother, and learned about her connection to the fox spirit. Her father was a famous bladesmith for the Shimada, and her mother, Asa, was their swordmaster. As such, Kiriko trained alongside Hanzo and Genji Shimada, whom her mother also instructed. Kiriko was treated like family, with Genji being especially fond of the young girl.

[mossy vale]

She’s a bad bad person in the lore

Equal parts brilliant and controversial, scientist Moira O'Deorain is on the cutting edge of genetic engineering, searching for a way to rewrite the fundamental building blocks of life.
Over a decade ago, O'Deorain made waves when she published a controversial paper detailing a methodology for creating custom genetic programs that could alter DNA at a cellular level. It seemed like a promising step toward overcoming diseases and disorders and maximizing human potential.
Dissent among her peers soon followed. Many considered her work to be dangerous because of its perceived ethical shortfalls, and O'Deorain was even accused of having the same unchecked desire for scientific advancement that some believed had caused the Omnic Crisis. In addition, other geneticists were unable to reproduce the results of O’Deorain’s research, which further called her discoveries into question. Instead of kickstarting her career, her paper seriously damaged her reputation.

Taken from the OW website ^^

She pretty much gave reaper his abilities (wraith form and tp) and essentially turned widow into who she is now

In terms of brainwashing and torturing her

[oblique briar]

Woah Moira is soy interesting

I think I like her more now

[mossy vale]

She’s very well written imo

[oblique briar]

So true

She's not inherently evil, just lacks morals

She's doing the wrong things for the right reasons

[mossy vale]

Yeah, she wants to advance the world, but there’s a cost

She’s even withering away herself

She experimented on others and herself

[oblique briar]

She did say she works better on a deadline

[mossy vale]

Lol yes

Her voice lines are great

[little elbow]

Did you know tracer is a lesbian

In the official overwatch comics we see tracers girlfriend

[oblique briar]

I thought everyone knew this

[little elbow]

Just for the ones who don’t

[loud marsh]

It's like,

Scientists know that the biggest problem of earth is that humans are on it. Without humans everything would thrive. Getting rid of the entire human population is kind of horrible, so we won't and can't. But scientifically, it is the "right thing"

I think Moira encapsulates that entirely

What science is if not limited to what is morally correct. She goes beyond those limits

Far beyond

[peak escarp]

which is why I argue that Moira isn't evil

she's amoral, but not evil

[cunning juniper]

sup guys im new to the server can someone explain to me what lfg or lfd means in the lfg-pc-na-ranked server.. ?

[ivory ridge]

LFG:looking for girlfriend, LFD:looking for dick, hope it helps:)
jk if mean looking for group(LFG) and looking for duo(LFD)

[sweet vault]

LFFP

looking for feet pics

[ivory ridge]

Check dms

[sweet vault]

no im scared

i dont want mens feet

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[oblique briar]

She's determined to make humanity evolve, by any means nescessary

I like to think of her as an anti-hero of sorts

she is not different from any past major scientists, 99% of all surgeries and medical treatments in the world were learned via vigorous testing, cruel, and inhumane experiments and other things alike

We wouldn't have any of the medical knowledge we have today without the people of the past sacrificing their humanity and morals for the greater good

[mossy vale]

Yes, and I love that she’s the antithesis of Mercy. Mercy is people first while Moira is science first

I personally think Moira is morally ambiguous. It really depends on how you see her, and that’s why in her description she’s labeled as controversial yet brilliant

[oblique briar]

I honestly think Mercy and Moira are meant to be parallels

Mercys approach is good for the people of the present, while bad in the long run, while Moiras approach is bad for the people of the present, but good in the long run

[spare fox]

been hearing some in-match voicelines that I never heard before in-game (but they have been in the game for a while) - I wonder if they tweaked the rarity slider a bit on some voicelines with the recent patch?

but it brought me to the wiki page w the voicelines and wow so many voicelines for PvE that are just... there

not to mention they have them for newest heroes too

makes me wonder if they're going to take elements originally meant for PvE and put them into a stadium mode or something 🤔

[loud marsh]

I usually zone out before a match starts, but I have been hearing voice lines I haven't heard before. I haven't payed attention enough to fully notice what they're saying though. I want to. I wonder if that means it is some kind of preview of what comes next

[spare fox]

I doubt the (perceived) change in interaction frequency is a preview or hint

I actually thought about it, I wonder if they adjusted the frequency of some lines due to Stadium's slightly different playstyle

Idk maybe certain lines were being said a lot and some not at all? Either way, the heroes I've noticed them on are stadium heroes so

Or maybe I'm just crazy

Again they're not new lines, just different from the ones I hear usually. Like multi-kill, thank you lines, etc etc

[mossy vale]

Brother that’s not lore

!!loreonly

[fossil wren]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1950980178903015623?t=F3PEXm6jUIfc4l6ZO2ve5g&s=19

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

New #Overwatch2 Mythic Skin: Ultraviolet Sentinel Sojourn Trailer 🦾

X · Jul 31, 2025, 6:01 PM

🏳️

There is no more copium in my bag

Although that skin has a very Cyberpunk aesthetic, maybe it means that the next season will have that theme (The phreaks graffitis appears many times behind Sojourn, perhaps it doesn't mean anything or perhaps it's a sign)

[wise grotto]

I love cyberpunk asthetics and soj just looks
Fire with that kinda vibe

[leaden hornet]

listening 2 multikill lines is so inspiring and kewl

makes me want 2 play da game moar

but its rare cuz i die a lot and rarely get kills

🙁

[shy dagger]

I think the phreak logos on the background were there to fit in with her skin

They did have a cyberpunk aesthetic in one of the skin surveys

These are kinda fire icl

[latent lark]

this is a funny way to make fun of the fake leaks lol

I could totally see them as the next two mythics however

[sullen bolt]

where can i find some nice lores stories?

[opaque tundra]

The website has all the short stories and comics under the media tab (which is under the game info tab)

[twilit patrol]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[whole reef]

winton

[loud marsh]

BOB

I swear the survey skins keep cooking with BOB skins more than Ashe

[loud marsh]

I think it is on purpose. You don't just accidentally edit that in several times in a row

[shy dagger]

True but I’m still convinced it’s for aesthetic purposes

[keen summit]

it might be cuz theyre body modders

and its a cyborg skin

[spare fox]

probably that and the neon glowing worked well with the aesthetic

idk I'm not getting any vibes that it means anything more than a design choice

[wise grotto]

Probably the seasons theme will be more cyborgish skins is the only thing ive seen on that stuff

[spare fox]

it could be but the mythic doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the theme

but it's possible

I'm just waiting to hear if there are any OW-related announcements at ChinaJoy 😩

[wise grotto]

Im hoping so cause cyberpunk asthetics are fire

[spare fox]

yeah

and while I'm usually the first to say "there are no rules" when it comes to these kind of things with overwatch, it is worth pointing out that we did get a cyberpunk-themed season already

[wise grotto]

True
But they might lean towards it again
But thats my hope cause i always wanna see more of that

[spare fox]

I can't decide whether I prefer the more cohesive singular themes of the early OW2 seasons or the more recent "grab bag" of themes approach

[wise grotto]

I cant decide either
Im not the biggest fan of this season cause its very hit or miss

[peak escarp]

maybe it's a specific dystopian cyberpunk AU (Overpunk?) rather than just generic cyberpunk

[fossil wren]

Cyberwatch

It would be cool, especially since Hazard could get more content in a season with that theme

[past copper]

Idea Blizzard can totally do for Esperança

Include severe weather with a tsunami waves crashing against the Great Wall of the city

Would love see this map come alive with something like that

[blissful lintel]

Is soldier-76 gay?

[fossil wren]

Yeah

[blissful lintel]

No

[digital linden]

yeah

[spare fox]

Still nothing from ChinaJoy? I thought OW2 was presenting

[grand wedge]

beside a Ramattra cosplayer acting while his speech was being played in the background, nothing I think

[fossil wren]

Sorry thats was me

Jk, is there a video?

🙏

Found it

[fossil wren]

Blizzard has their stage but nothing so far

[spare fox]

Isn't it over though?

[fossil wren]

Idk

But from what I saw in x there was no sign of wuyang at chinajoy

Honestly I'm not surprised, Blizzard didn't really say they would show Wuyang on ChinaJoy either, it was just a rumor

[spare fox]

Tbh they didn't say anything about Wuyang BUT they did mention "a few surprises"

[shy dagger]

For a water themed hero, his content has sure been dry

[lyric chasm]

IIRC they can't do such things in PVP because of the impact it could have on performance for the players

PVE Havana was pretty tho

[real yew]

I want more ramattra lore

[opaque tundra]

Same

Hopefully we’ll get some soon

[spare fox]

https://x.com/OverwatchNaeri/status/1952183356550255039?s=19

Naeri X 나에리 (@OverwatchNaeri)

X · Aug 4, 2025, 1:42 AM

[fossil wren]

Soon my brother in the iris

Soon

[past copper]

Pics of the new Route 66

[spare fox]

Can't wait to get a closer look at the info they have tacked up there

Idk some are saying it looks like the Oasis tower but I think it might be an above view of the tracks they blew to get the cargo (the one Echo's crate was in)

[digital linden]

people think that looks like oasis?..

i'm lost💔

[vivid dove]

Yo

Anyone knows where could the practice range be located in the world?

[spare fox]

Nope a clearer image appeared, it looks like the decommissioned WP Grand Mesa

https://x.com/OmnicReporter/status/1952359774336463163?s=19

The Omnic Reporter (@OmnicReporter)

@HazeletOW It seems watchpoint grand mesa (from declassified book) @mushroomiiee

X · Aug 4, 2025, 1:23 PM

[past copper]

https://youtu.be/X_q9JoVcImI?si=BjLrGnv5q7xMstia

Well, this collab looking simple, but fun

[lyric chasm]

Ooooh I like that

[spare fox]

Right?? What are the plans for that?? Omg I want to know

[past copper]

So that nerf thing. I’m not sure if that’s an actual collab like the past others. I’m pretty sure that’s weapons skin thing, aside from Cole’s skin for it

[past copper]

Interesting weapon skins

But so far, only complaint I saw about this collab is Cassidy, a 39 year old man, dressed in nerf gear

…people will complain about anything in this game, I swear 🤦‍♂️

[lone atlas]

it is cool he got a skin tho

all the rest only got weapon skins

[past copper]

True. When you think about it, I’m actually surprised people don’t complain about Cassidy being in the same boat as Kiriko and Mercy

Guess he’s just one the popular characters in Overwatch like them

[peak escarp]

I think he's the male hero with the most collab skins, no?

[past copper]

I think he’s only ever gotten 1 or 2 collab skins

I remember he got the Spike skin

Yea no. This will be his second collab skin

[peak escarp]

I guess I remembered wrong

I thought he had more

[past copper]

I think it’s more along the lines of he gets a skin almost every season

Much like Mercy and Kiriko seem to

[peak escarp]

it's been a few seasons since his last one before the current one

last one I remember is Ultrawatch

he definitely doesn't get as many as Mercy or Kiriko

[past copper]

Well regardless, it’s mind boggling some people actually complain about HIM getting a nerf skin because of his age

[peak escarp]

yeah that's silly

[past copper]

But don’t bat an eye at the fact he recently got an academy skin

[peak escarp]

nerf is for all ages

[past copper]

Yup. I think it’s crazy mostly bc I’ll bet the people who cry about it don’t actually play with nerf stuff

People just wanna complain about the game for whatever reason they can come up with out of spite of it not failing like they hope it would

[past copper]

But screw what people say. Cassidy’s nerf skin looks fun for him

Even love the addition of the nerf footballs

[covert fox]

i can't believe people are hating on it look at him!! He's so happy with his nerf gun!! He's a grown ass man having the time of his fucking life and I could not take that away from him

[tardy nymph]

Hey I’m back

Wanted to know if there’s any lore reason or even speculation about Cass’ old tubes on his design

Not the flash bangs on his side

I mean the two tubes running from the side of his body armor down to his abdomen

Almost look like they would pump something into his abdomen

[past copper]

People just hate when others are happy is all it is

[past copper]

I mean, probably nothing but wire guards

[tardy nymph]

What’s that?

Oh wire guards