lore-discussion

[feral wave]

yeah, I would love an animated short on Lifeweaver & Symmetra's Vishkar scenario

[shy dagger]

I’d love for the same quality shorts like in the past for new heroes

[feral wave]

yea, cus for Freja they only did a short animated scene with her and Maximilien

[shy dagger]

It was good but ehh..
I’d love ones like the 3D animated old shorts Y’know

[peak escarp]

they didn't do those for hero releases

they were more big story beats

[feral wave]

Well, still. I feel that they should add more important new characters to the storyline

[peak escarp]

Emre is a pretty big one

[feral wave]

are they planning on adding him in season 18?

[peak escarp]

no, but he's likely to be a future hero

season 18 will be a female tank

some devs hinted that s20 will be big, so maybe Emre will be then

[feral wave]

Isnt Emre supposed to be a support?

[shy dagger]

Where was that

[peak escarp]

https://x.com/BryNgons/status/1943055948630905330

Bryan Bedford 💙 (@BryNgons)

Today is def one of those days where I feel like I'm just working with some of the 𝙗𝙚𝙨𝙩 devs. We're all on the same page, everyone's jammin, gettin things done. Polishing stuff to a glorious shine.

I'm REALLY looking forward to OW Season 20 later - it's gonna be fkin rad! 😎

X · Jul 9, 2025, 9:13 PM

y'know, the whole Mercy/Pharah thing is a lot funnier if it's entirely one-sided

Fareeha has a hardcore crush on Angela while Angela just sees her as a good friend

[fossil wren]

r/EmreMains members will finally be able to rest in peace

After so many years 😭

[past copper]

The same thing clone troopers call battle droids

[fossil wren]

THATS THE HARD R

ITS LIKE THE HARD N

😭

[candid helm]

They (have) to , animated shorts are part of overwatch's identity now

I just want to enjoy the Overwatch content without it being made into a tvshow because I know the current team won't be ready to re-activate the story

Even tho i know blizzard won't have any benefits for just making animated shorts

[tame stump]

season 18 is wuyang and season 20 is the female tank no?

[charred tapir]

So what’s up with Ana and Reinhardt voice interactions? Were they close or smth?

[digital linden]

yeah

[peak escarp]

Cassidy?!

the one person we have seen canonically blacked out drunk?

[winter path]

Aw bless your heart

[peak escarp]

?

[tranquil tapir]

😭

[dense oak]

dude bastion?

LOLL

[ruby ridge]

Emre as a hero low-key scares me because it feels like his kit would be so boring?

[dense oak]

“lw’s personal cleaning rag is typing”

[ruby ridge]

hi ♥️

[dense oak]

hes bad I dont blame you

oh brb game startint

[ruby ridge]

I feel like we already have such a “idea” of him that we might be disappointed aswell

I can see him having like dual pistols or something i just don’t see what you can do much for another basic human soldier character

[void zodiac]

i need more sigma content

there isn't enough

[peak escarp]

we haven't seen what Emre can do

the only things we know about him are:

• he was the first person recruited by Overwatch after the crisis
• he participated in Operation: White Dome (along with Reinhardt, Torbjorn and Ana)
• he mentored Freja in the Search and Rescue division

no hint of weapons or abilities, although I think his inclusion in White Dome indicates he filled the support role for that mission

[digital linden]

i imagine him using a weapon similar to ana

[tardy nymph]

It’s really about what tech he would have

It’s just no clues as to what it could be

Really up in the air

[fossil wren]

Yeah... I'm not so sure about this tierlist

[peak escarp]

they're a troll, ignore them

[past copper]

Or give us an animated series. If not more animated shorts or story missions. Give the people a series

[winter path]

What’s so unsure about it

[winter path]

How dare you accuse me of trollery

[fossil wren]

Not gonna happen

Not soon

[spare fox]

I understand it's about drinking alcohol but what's the scenario? like at a gathering? a bar?

[past copper]

Not really lore discussion, but if we’re talking bar, mostly to either drink to get away life’s problems, to celebrate something with friends, or sometimes a little of both

Really depends on the atmosphere

And personal scenarios

[ruby ridge]

Uh

I think it’s about how many shots they’d need to sleep with the character

[peak escarp]

so it's not trolling it's just shitposting

gotcha

[spare fox]

ohhhh I get it now

soooo can we speculate about the stream yesterday

I haven't actually seen it but I've seen news about it

so if not a series and not PvE, how do you think OW is going to incorporate more story?

I speculate that they might do a seasonal PvP objective mode - like how they did earlier during the release of OW2 - like Starwatch
BUT combine it with something like Junkenstein's Lab/Stadium
Obviously 1 team would be OW agents, the other team whoever they're fighting against

I could see them getting creative with asymetrical teams, giving certain characters powerups and perks, adding some PvE element (like in Starwatch) or objective to the mode (escorting an NPC or a payload)

[fossil wren]

Well Null Sector is cooked

[opaque tundra]

I think it’ll be in-game comics or something like that rather than a full on gamemode with additional cosmetics and map updates

Like sprays for the events of the story and null sector ships in the sky again for whatever map is being attacked

[rugged sky]

cass

in sober

are we like

serious

[lyric chasm]

Lmao

Dude's canonically an alcoholic

I bet Sombra doesn’t go easy on the bottle either

[candid helm]

If it's like genesis , that seires was amazingly perfect
It took a major part of the story we didn't know + explained it in a perfect way + was beautifuly made

[peak escarp]

comics, short stories, animated shorts

[lime storm]

What's up with the pre-battle interactions that happen between certain heroes in the spawn? How does the canon justify the fact that someone like Moira and Mercy have a full conversation without being at each other's throats?

[molten heath]

Hey

[fossil wren]

They arent

Canon

[spare fox]

but they've been doing those, sparingly but regularly

to me it sounds like they're making the narrative more present in the game

[peak escarp]

to me it sounds like they took what was going to be in the PvE and converted it to other mediums

[fossil wren]

I hope Null sector gets some wins soon

[spare fox]

it seems likely given that it's an ongoing media

or an "I'll get you next time!" situation

[fossil wren]

"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling overwatch agents!" - Ramattra after Paris, Rio, Toronto and Gothenburg

[leaden hornet]

is 4 ffun

not canon liek ram mythic sed

[kind ore]

I have a theory that Genji and Hanzo have a great uncle or someone like that who was working at the Fukushima plant on the day it melted down. He was caught in the blast, horribly disfigured, and eventually died of cancer.

Because of this, both of the Shimada brothers have a fear of radiation

[fossil wren]

I...

Yeah, enough for today

Goodnight everyone

[lime storm]

Oh

Alr thanks

I always thought they were canon for whatever reason

[lyric chasm]

It's just that it's not really here that we discuss headcanons

[floral chasm]

do you think junkrat will ever get real lore or will he remain mostly a joke character like the only time they ever get mildly serious with him was in the roadhog comic

[opaque tundra]

Junkrat is the comedic relief for the rest of eternity

[nocturne solar]

where is Lord lore cassidy person

[sullen girder]

Unrelated but I’m kinda mad they didn’t give mirrorwatch tracer any voicelines, something like “cheers love, it’s time to destroy the world” would be cool

[peak escarp]

what do you need?

[nocturne solar]

does the new aqua dude have any references from the past?

[spare fox]

None that are apparent right now

Maybe in the hotfix mid-season we'll get some hints or clues

[peak escarp]

yeah, nothing yet

based on what little we know (Chinese heritage, water based abilities, support role), I feel like he's going to be a very minor character

like Illari or Venture

[spare fox]

I think potentially he might have a connection to wancai (sp?) and their hydroponics tech but no clue what kind of character or storyline he'll have

He looks like another young hero so probably those sort of archetypes are to be expected

They're really focusing on younger heroes recently, which is a nice change

[tardy nymph]

It’s a nice change for the future of Overwatch beyond the current storyline but they don’t feed into the current storyline as much

I don’t mind fleshing out the world but I think a lot of folks want to see more of a sense of progresssion in the story

Like it would be nice if the Emre cinematic would be when Freja finds him

Not just a flashback to Emres past but rather something that feels like almost another episode continuous with the Freja cinematic

I like that the comic strips they have can flesh out who the character is

And then the cinematic videos can be used to progress the story

Cuz I mean the old cinematics were really just character backstories as well for the most part

It’s just that was more so what people wanted when Overwatch was new

[opaque tundra]

Boy do I have good news for you

Aaron Keller basically confirmed the other day that they’re gonna bring back the story

[twilit patrol]

That’s probably gonna be their goal in 2026

[opaque tundra]

I’m personally betting on something happening in season 20

[torpid cobalt]

guys is the invasion bundle worth-it ?

[lucid sand]

kinda

i liked it

[torpid cobalt]

fr? when and if i bought the invasion bundle will the story open for me? or separate purchase required?

[torpid cobalt]

how many hours to beat?

[opaque tundra]

The invasion bundle gives you three story missions. Each have opening and closing cutscenes and extra text content in the menu screen as you progress through it and play different heroes. It’s about 1 to 2 hours

[lucid sand]

1-2

[opaque tundra]

They’re not continuing PvE unfortunately so it looks like the rest of the story will happen in different mediums

It’s hard to determine whether it’s worth it or not to play PvE nowadays but if you’re looking for people to play with I can send you a link to a PvE server

[torpid cobalt]

thats kinda not worth-it for almost 15$

[torpid cobalt]

so PvE is the invasion ( MISSIONS ) mode right?
and the story is another mode?

[lucid sand]

yeah

love the skin tho

[opaque tundra]

The PvE is called Story Missions. The story I’m referring to is the plot of those story missions

[past copper]

Anyone else think they’re gonna do something big connected to these skins?

[lucid sand]

possibly

[torpid cobalt]

for which hero?

[lucid sand]

sorjourn

[torpid cobalt]

i mean they were talking about a story mode that will come with ow2 and then they cancelled it, is it the story missions? or smth else

[torpid cobalt]

oh

[short ember]

I wanna lick hazards chest

[opaque tundra]

Story Missions is PvE. PvE is Cancelled. That is the end of my explanation. Good night

[spare fox]

I thought the invasion missions were fine, but you can also look up the gameplay and cutscenes on youtube

And I believe Doc transcribed all the unlockable text probably somewhere in the pins

[jaunty obsidian]

:3

[signal sable]

Is it lore accurate that bastion can transform into a kebab machine?

[peak escarp]

I think Mobster/Gangster is just a popular theme - they don't even go together aesthetically

[past copper]

Unless they’re planning something like cops and robbers themed

[peak escarp]

I would still expect them to match if they were supposed to go together

[past copper]

Mob, Mafia, Gangster all mean the same thing tho. Mafia is just more specific group while mob could mean any crime group. And gangster can be either one of these too. So it fits regardless

That said, pretty sure Ringleader Reaper is connected to the heist group. Ringleader of what? Possibly the group who pulled off their heist against whoever

That being said, kinda wanna see what mobster Roadhog looks like. It be kinda crazy seeing him in a pinstriped suit

[south plover]

if you really think hard about it junkrat looks connected to soldier so they probably will be together more idk

[peak escarp]

I thought he was a circus ringleader - he looks more like a performer with that feathered collar

[past copper]

Nah. That for sure is like a criminal syndicate ringleader

[peak escarp]

what makes it a criminal ringleader

they don't typically wear flashy outfits

[past copper]

For one, crime bosses dress however they like. Even if the ringleaders

And second

We already have a ringmaster

[peak escarp]

so? we already have several criminal "ringleaders"

many skins overlap themes with other skins

[past copper]

Technically, the only criminal ringleader you can actually all a leader currently is Junker Queen

I would say Hazard, but I don’t think he sees himself as a leader

There might also be Soldier, but the heist skins are too random for me to say for certain if he’s like the group leader or just like the right hand man

[peak escarp]

none of those criminal skins look like they're participating in the same crime (besides the D.Va and Soldier ones which were released together)

it's not as bad as the carbon fiber skins, but still annoying

[past copper]

Pretty sure those were mostly recolors for the most part

[peak escarp]

they're all epic skins, so yes

but it bothers me that so many skins that have the same name don't share the same colour scheme/aesthetic

I made this a while ago so there's probably more

[past copper]

Don’t forget Sigma

All they did was add a visor, a new paint job, and called it a day

[peak escarp]

it's an epic skin

that's literally what epic skins are

a recolour with new textures and sometimes a new head mesh

it's dumb to complain about something that has always been that way

[past copper]

Technically, Hanzo’s new skin was like a mix of two epic skins. Scion and Heir

[peak escarp]

if you want to get mad at something, get mad at the epic skins that masquerade as legendaries

Meirry, Mime Moira, Terrible Tornado Kiriko, etc.

[past copper]

They certainly pass some as that. Such as Tracer’s recent skin

[peak escarp]

you mean this one?

[past copper]

No

This one

[peak escarp]

it's a recolour of a legendary

so it stays a legendary

the only exception to that was Lucio's Boleiro skin, which is a recolour of a legendary but is an epic for some reason

[past copper]

Honestly, they could’ve added anyone else without just recoloring if you ask me. Like they could’ve made Torb or Ana teachers or something. Idk

[peak escarp]

maybe they didn't have the resources for another new skin

I'd rather get recolours than get less skins total

[past copper]

In that case, why not have taken an old Torb skin to recolor into a teacher?

[peak escarp]

why Torb?

[past copper]

He just has that wise educator vibe to him

[peak escarp]

they made Soldier a student

[past copper]

Can you say you see Jack as a wise educator tho?

[peak escarp]

I could see him as the principal

instead they made Widowmaker the principal

[past copper]

I think they wanted a mix of people as the teachers. Hence why they have Widowmaker, Sigma, and Junkrat as teachers alongside Sojourn and Tracer

[peak escarp]

so obviously they don't care about a character's vibe

[past copper]

And technically, Student Council president is pretty close to a teacher role, so Soldier

Tho, only thing I question about that skin… is why the hell they give that man a brick for a phone 😂

[peak escarp]

my question is why are his hands so massive?

[past copper]

I think they were implementing too much Iida into that skin honestly

[gentle steppe]

Quit dissing my boy John

[peak escarp]

😮

[gentle steppe]

His hands are very normal sized thank you very much

[peak escarp]

he's got yaoi hands

[gentle steppe]

GAHAHAHA

You are forgiven for that

[peak escarp]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yaoi-hands

[gentle steppe]

Fitting for him though I mean

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-overwatch-reaper-soldier76-overwatch-reaper76-gif-27175625

[peak escarp]

none of that

[gentle steppe]

The gif didn't work

💔

[peak escarp]

good

I know which one it was

[gentle steppe]

Do you though?

I don't think you do...

[peak escarp]

yes I do

a lot of people use that gif

[gentle steppe]

Hmmm not sure about that one chief

Gifs are very widely used yes

[peak escarp]

that specific one

with that specific name

[gentle steppe]

What specific one?

I'm not sure what you are on about

🤨

[peak escarp]

[gentle steppe]

Sorry

I'll stop

[lime storm]

well obviously she doesnt fit that role but blizzard couldnt have possibly missed the opportunity to add yet another gooner bait skin to one of its female characters

[twin rune]

Lol

[fossil wren]

Widowmaker would have worked more as a dance teacher or something like that

Soldier should have been the principal

[bold fern]

hes perfect as the class president

many of then have egos

then

them

[tawny frost]

No bro ☠️

[charred tapir]

Who’s freja after? That guy in the bounty poster

[fossil wren]

Emre Sarioglu

[fossil wren]

He was a former overwatch strike team member, and head of overwatch search and rescue team, due to a operation against the Deepsea Raiders that caused 14 civilian casualties because Reyes and his team brought the fight to the city before SAR could evacuate the civilians Emre left overwatch after arguing with Morrison over Reyes actions

[spare fox]

We keep getting literal crumbs about him too

Like, he might be in Havana, retired

[fossil wren]

Or maybe it's that guy with a similar haircut in Talon Inner Council

(obviously he isn't)

[spare fox]

Yeah that's some speculation of course

Hm I wonder though, if there has been obvious friction between Emre and Reyes, I wonder if Emre might be out to sabotage Reyes from within Talon

[fossil wren]

Emre is some mauga type of character, he's been teased for years

[spare fox]

This is taking some leaps, obviously

He's been teased way more than Mauga

[fossil wren]

Let's hope Blizzard doesn't do the same thing they did with Mauga and release 3 supports before Emre or create a whole kit of skills that they ended up using on another character

😭

We don't really know if he will be a support, Although to be honest it is the most likely option

[spare fox]

I think you're putting the cart before the horse here

[fossil wren]

Ik

[spare fox]

There's no confirmation he'll even be a hero

He could be another important npc

[fossil wren]

Emre has been a character expected by the community for some time, With what they have revealed about him in Freja's comic, I personally think that not making him a future hero would be an absurd decision

[fossil wren]

Although clearly the final decision is from Blizzard, But so much teasing to turn him into a simple lore character only would be a very bad idea (I know that he doesn't necessarily have to become a playable character despite the teasing and the importance that he can have in the Lore, For example Maximilien)

[spare fox]

Well I mean, we haven't seen him in combat at all, he was on the SAR team after all

Not that that's definitive I mean Juno is a teen refugee from Mars and Venture an archeologist

[lyric chasm]

the original teased character lol with Sombra maybe

similar hypes

[fossil wren]

He was part of the strike team and saw action in operations like White Dome. Logically, one could assume that he knows how to defend himself

Also wasn't he carrying a gun in Freja comic?

[peak escarp]

I think he should be a Support, based on his participation in White Dome

none of the other heroes on that mission were healers

[charred tapir]

Actually that aside cuz are we gonna have a ram mythic fr?!

[fossil wren]

Emre should definitely be a support

[fossil wren]

We dont know

However, I trust in it

[charred tapir]

I’D GO INSANE

Lemme start saving

[ruby ridge]

It’d be good to have lore characters that aren’t heroes

Emre could just be part of freja’s story

Instead of becoming hjs own

[tardy nymph]

So if that’s the case he would be coming out next summer with current rotation, or next fall

Tank gladiator winter, next dps spring, then emre

[dense nebula]

Tank gladiator?

[tardy nymph]

Teased hero after Aqua

[dense nebula]

What kinda gladiator we talking?

Murmillo? Beastiarii? Retiarius?

[tardy nymph]

Probably Italian

[dense nebula]

[tardy nymph]

Idk the types of gladiators lol

Looks like they got a sword

Lol

[dense nebula]

Murmillo use a Gladius and big shield, usually heavy armored

Reatiarius use a net and trident and have little armor

[peak escarp]

here's the teasers we have for her

[dense nebula]

Beastiarii as the name implies specialize in fighting animals

[tardy nymph]

Murmillo then probs

[tardy nymph]

Any possibility they’re an omnic?

Like that mask is actually their face

And they got wire hair like Orissa

[peak escarp]

there used to be something on Colosseo that said the colosseum battles were remotely piloted drones, but it has been removed

so she could be an omnic, or a drone, or just a person in armor

[tardy nymph]

Hmmm

[dense nebula]

She looks more like a knight than a gladiator

[tardy nymph]

Maybe another anti omnic based on fighting drones or omnics in Colloseo?

[dense nebula]

Also whatever happened to that Polish Hussar looking guy?

[tardy nymph]

Next dps if u want ur hopes up

But idk

Never heard of the bloke

[peak escarp]

probably just background art

[dense nebula]

I don’t have img perms

Crap

[tardy nymph]

Polish character could be incoming

[dense nebula]

I was gonna send an image

[tardy nymph]

They seem to rep based on fanbase at least a little

Tho Korea only has one character so far

Is Korea united in OW lore?

[dense nebula]

I’m still sad we got Hazard over that other Scottish hero

[tardy nymph]

Wonder what a North Korean hero would look like

Wonder how you rep a country like that even

Almost unanimously disliked even by Chinese folk

[dense nebula]

You think they’ll ever do a Taiwanese hero?

[tardy nymph]

Lol

Considering the controversy no

They don’t want the game banned in countries

Especially not in China

New Zealander hero seems like an obvious choice at this point

Another African hero seems the least likely

[dense nebula]

I mean technically we already have one

[tardy nymph]

Who?

[dense nebula]

Through a very specific technicality

Roadhog is from New Zealand tmk, at least has heritage from there but lives in Australia tmk

[tardy nymph]

Ohhh

Didn’t know that

[dense nebula]

He is officially Australian

But definitely has connections to New Zealand

[peak escarp]

Roadhog's nationality is Australian, but he seems to have Maori heritage

[tardy nymph]

Really?

[dense nebula]

Which is why I say through a very specific technicality

[tardy nymph]

I always thought he looked like a mixed native Australian

With the hair

Idk

[peak escarp]

there's strong hints that he's Maori specifically

[tardy nymph]

Guess we can’t see his face

[tardy nymph]

Mmmm

So maybe he’s got face tats underneath his mask

[dense nebula]

Maori is a cool underrepresented culture

I know it has a lot of stuff in Path of Exile

[tardy nymph]

Fo sho

Maori are like the mainland Polynesians

Most Polynesian cultures are very water based

Cuz there’s little land

But New Zealand is relatively large

So Maori are quite land focused

Interesting distinction

[mossy vale]

He has some skins that are def Māori themed

Sorry I didn’t mean to jump in

[tardy nymph]

Nah it’s cool

Not familiar with Hogs skins

[dense nebula]

Toa my beloved

[mossy vale]

I can’t send pics here

Hog has some v v cool skins ^^

[dense nebula]

Still waiting for my Mongolian hero

smh

[peak escarp]

both his teacup in his Toast pose and his bedspread in his room on the Junkertown map have Maori designs on them

and at least one of his voice lines is NZ slang

[dense nebula]

Speaking of inspirations and cultures

Doomfist is inspired by Shango and I will not hear otherwise

[peak escarp]

kinda surprised we only have 3 mixed heritage heroes

[dense nebula]

Give me a character inspired by Vikings and the HRE

[peak escarp]

Pharah (Egyptian-Canadian), Venture (Mexican-Canadian) and Juno (Singaporean-Vietnamese)

[dense nebula]

And Martian smh

[peak escarp]

that's her nationality not her heritage smh

[dense nebula]

The Mars disrespect is real out here smh

[peak escarp]

nobody is natively from Mars

[spare fox]

Besides the easter eggs for Roadhog being Maori, does having Mexican-inspired skins and dance emote for Reaper mean he's probably of Mexican heritage?

[peak escarp]

he's confirmed to be of Mexican heritage

[spare fox]

Ah ok I forgot it was confirmed

[peak escarp]

it was the one question asked at the Blizzcon 2019 VA panel... and it was something we already kinda knew

what a waste of a question

should have asked about Roadhog

[tardy nymph]

Venture makes sense due to the nomadicism

[spare fox]

Yeah i hate wasted questions

[peak escarp]

and the girl asking it was really cringe too

[tardy nymph]

Singaporean Vietnamese

Is there a reason for that?

Not really familiar with Juno lore

[spare fox]

Just that that's where her parents are from

[peak escarp]

Juno's mother Dr. Jiayi Teo is Singaporean and her father Dr. Khiem Van Minh is Vietnamese

[tardy nymph]

Okay

[spare fox]

Not much else to it

[tardy nymph]

I guess im thinking too hard into the function of character design

For some reason people don’t like Frejas design

Which baffled me

Or Hazards

Idk how people can think Soldier or Cassidy are inspired characters and then critique the new characters for being unoriginal

[peak escarp]

people think they're inspired designs?

[tardy nymph]

Just nostalgia I guess

[tardy nymph]

Some people man

It’s wild

[peak escarp]

Cassidy and Soldier are pretty much the most boring white guy heroes in the game

[tardy nymph]

I’ve heard Hazard described as a fortnite character but like everybody is a fortnite character

[spare fox]

Those who say Freja is a reskinned Widow are so tired

[tardy nymph]

It’s a huge crossover

[peak escarp]

but at least Cassidy has the cowboy gimmick

[tardy nymph]

It’s like middle aged woman with eyeliner equals same???? Lol

They’re so different

[spare fox]

Middle aged tf

[tardy nymph]

People be saying their silhouettes are the same when Freja has a giant cape lol

[tardy nymph]

Are they not?

In like 30s 40s

[peak escarp]

oh god... am I... middle aged?!

[tardy nymph]

Is Widow older?

[peak escarp]

middle aged is 40-50

[tardy nymph]

Ig

[peak escarp]

Freya is 34

Widow is 35

[tardy nymph]

How old was she when she was in Overwatch then?

[tardy nymph]

That doesn’t seem right to me for some reason

Is Soldier not like 60 years old

[spare fox]

Nah but they both are white women with long legs and a "don't fuck w me" expression that's the extent of the similarities

[peak escarp]

Overwatch disbanded 7 years ago

[tardy nymph]

Oh

[peak escarp]

he's 58

[tardy nymph]

So like Soldier was already old when it disbanded

[peak escarp]

yes

[tardy nymph]

Soldier was 51?

All the flashbacks and stuff make him look so young

Maybe I’m just looking at the wrong stuff

Guess Overwatxh lasted like 30 years

[peak escarp]

50 isn't that old + advancements in medicine blah blah blah

Overwatch was active for about 20 years

[spare fox]

And he's enhanced

[tardy nymph]

Well Soldiers like superhuman

So like makes sense

I like the redesign in ow2 where they made him bigger

Looks more like a superhero build

Rather than skinny ow1 soldier

[peak escarp]

speaking of birthdays, it's Zenyatta's birthday

[tardy nymph]

Based on the Awakening?

Would that be every Omnics birthday?

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta, Ramattra and Bastion all have different birthdays, so it isn't the Awakening

[tardy nymph]

So like when they were built?

[peak escarp]

I assume it's the day they were built/first activated

[tardy nymph]

Weird

Ram is 28 lol

[lyric chasm]

Yeah. They seem to recall their past pre awakening

[tardy nymph]

Ram being 28 is so funny

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta is 33, Ramattra is 28 (built at the start of the Omnic Crisis) and Bastion is 32

so Zen and Bastion were both built before the Crisis

[tardy nymph]

Since omnics can have relationships with humans, what would the rules around age of consent be?

Is Echo considered a child?

[peak escarp]

not sure

it hasn't come up

[tardy nymph]

Like it seems they are more mature

But Echo is ai

Ig not technically an omnic yeah?

[peak escarp]

Echo and Orisa are both non-sentient robots

[tardy nymph]

Weird

So much personality

[peak escarp]

they just have highly advanced learning AI models

capable of simulating sentience

[tardy nymph]

I’m really confused by this whole omnic non sentient robot dynamic

[spare fox]

I think the year of their manufacture is the year they were born

[tardy nymph]

Is there like inter robot racism?

Like would an omnic scoff at someone like Echo?

Cuz Ram seems to see them as one kind

[peak escarp]

maybe

[tardy nymph]

Which I find odd

[spare fox]

https://youtu.be/Vo7nfrmMIRw?si=awyj4KBfFwKpOcZ5

[tardy nymph]

Thx

There’s def cyborg discrimination

[peak escarp]

yep

[tardy nymph]

I know Sojourn was bullied for that

[spare fox]

And Hanzo's reaction to Genji

[tardy nymph]

Was it actually all that negative?

In the cinematic it seemed more surprised

[peak escarp]

"What have you... become?" sounded pretty negative to me

[tardy nymph]

It’s a valid interpretation but I didn’t see it that way

[spare fox]

Which makes sense that a person who did so much physical training would be dismissive at the least of people getting "enhanced"

[tardy nymph]

More so like cuz Hanzo know he effed up Genji bad

So he’s like how the hell did you live

What happened to you to survive

[peak escarp]

he could have asked "what happened to you?"

[tardy nymph]

Ig

But feels nitpicky

Bros stunned

[peak escarp]

but his tone sounds disparaging

[tardy nymph]

Is there any other evidence he isn’t fond of robots and stuff

Other than like ig sparing the humans and shocking that one omnic bodyguard

But that seems more so just like keeping things pg

[peak escarp]

I've seen people call Hanzo antiomnic because he only shot the omnic Hashimoto goon, but I think that was just to keep things PG

yeah

[tardy nymph]

Wonder why Freja hates omnics so much

Like would her interactions be any different than anybody else who was part of Overwatch?

And yet so many seem to not have any problems with them

[peak escarp]

not everyone forgave the omnics for the crisis

some people held a grudge

[tardy nymph]

Rein has a thing with Bastion but Bastion is non omnic

I guess that’s the most similar comparison I can make

[peak escarp]

Bastion is an omnic

[tardy nymph]

?

Didn’t he revive after the Awakening?

[peak escarp]

but also, Bastion is a model of omnic specifically made for war

[tardy nymph]

So he was awakened?

[peak escarp]

yes

[tardy nymph]

While asleep?

Or like did that happen after

[peak escarp]

which is what makes him special - Bastion models were thought to lack the capability of being awakened

but this one did

[tardy nymph]

Weird

[peak escarp]

so Torbjorn took him in to investigate why

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

So Bastion not being able to talk like normal is a physical thing

Like a physical inability

Not a mental thing

[peak escarp]

I think so

[tardy nymph]

Cuz the other omnics can use human speech

But he communicates in boops

And beeps

[peak escarp]

why would they make guns that could talk

[tardy nymph]

Ig so

Just communicate between each other

Like bees

But other omnics understand him

Why would that be the case?

[peak escarp]

all omnics can communicate on their internal networks

[tardy nymph]

Like Ram

[peak escarp]

they don't need to speak

[tardy nymph]

Really?

So why would like Ram and Zen and Mondatta speak to each other in those scenes

Is that just for us the audience?

Can they talk to each other from far away?

Like a permanent phone

[peak escarp]

probably just for the audience

Hero of Numbani had information passing between omnics via wireless signals

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

U are truly a lore warlord

U know everything

[opaque tundra]

Yeah don’t mess with an omnic. They can shit talk about you telepathically

[past copper]

You know something we don’t ask… where did Ramattra get his tech?

As far as we know, while we don’t know what his nanites are like in canon yet, but the question should come up regardless

Where did he acquire such technology? Could have been a forgotten relic from the Omnium that Anubis just failed to utilize? Or could it have been a gift from his partnership with Akande?

[fossil wren]

Nanomachines son

[peak escarp]

I hate that meme so much

[fossil wren]

I know

[last slate]

@rustic fog May I, please?

[white cobalt]

https://x.com/westofhouse/status/1945116185432826302

Michael Chu 瞿華明 (@westofhouse)

Random fact: during development we use fake names in addition to internal codenames (“Cowboy”) when sending out auditions, etc. For him, I used “Billy Maclure”, a name that may ring a bell with WoW fans. 🥧

X · Jul 15, 2025, 1:40 PM

[simple folio]

do we have any guesses on the lore and/or abilities of wuyang

[opaque tundra]

There are three options: he’s just a dude, conspiracy relevance, or main plot relevance

[mossy vale]

Do you think they’ll ever make an Italian hero?

[fossil wren]

They will

[spare fox]

Very possibly Hero 45 the gladiator

[spare fox]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1944807395911184751?s=19

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

Get ready to meet Wuyang in #Overwatch2 🌊

Blizzard will attend ChinaJoy 2025 starting August 1st, teasing "hidden surprises." We might see a reveal trailer or trial weekend for the new Chinese Support Hero at the event!

X · Jul 14, 2025, 5:13 PM

We'll probably see wuyang real soon

[marsh ridge]

oooo

[digital linden]

hoping they don't botch his 3d model😭

[past copper]

Toxicwatch when Blizzard?

I forgot the biohazard skins

[fossil wren]

Unfortunately, you can't make a cute Kiriko or Mercy skin for that theme

[past copper]

You poor fool… if you think for a second they only go for a cute skin with them, you have been living under a rock

Nothing cute bout these skins

Besides that, they’ve proven they don’t have to make every skin match the theme of the season

[fossil wren]

Pretty sure mercy mains hate vengeance

[past copper]

And? Blizzard can’t please everyone

Besides, as I said, they don’t give every hero a skin on theme

Besides, if and when there is ever a Toxicwatch season, these are the guys I see potentially getting theme skins

[spare fox]

LORE SEASON tho

I'm high on copium that S18 is going to have more story

[lyric chasm]

They said 20 would be big

I'm waiting for that and Emre

[spare fox]

They also said 18 was going to be big nnnnn kinda hope they didn't push it back

[past copper]

I forgot to include Hazard on the toxic theme list

Seriously, does anyone else forget this guy or is just me?

I blame his pick rate. You really just don’t see people play him often

[lyric chasm]

Seen a lot of people talk shit about his character and character design

Saying he's bland or boring

But I don't see it

He's not my type of gameplay but he certainly isn't "boring" or "bland"

[fossil wren]

Thats sojourn lmao

Hazard is not boring, although I honestly don't understand practically anything that guy says

I guess it's because of the Scottish accent

Personally he's not my type of tank, but he has interesting gameplay and should definitely be used more

[tardy nymph]

Story wise I doubt it because Aqua doesn’t seem like the character to reopen the story like Emre does

I imagine the season 18 changes might more so have to do with perk updates character reworks, new gameplay oriented stuff added to the game

Overwatch story is usually very character focused

And Emre seems more so like a character that could help bring interest to more story elements

Maybe a bigger cinematic

[spare fox]

I think you might be projecting a little bit too much prematurely for Emre

And just because Aqua doesn't seem like a story focused character (at this time) doesn't mean there won't be story

We got Invasion with the intro to Illari for example

There's no rules to how they do it

[past copper]

Look, I think he’s a decent tank, but my only problem with Hazard is his Spike Guard

If Blizzard were to give him a block/absorption ability from it like Doomfist, you’d see more players use him

But that’s just me. I just think he’s too easy to counter and eliminate for a tank

That aside, I like his character. His lore gives us another faction to explore

[tardy nymph]

Maybe

[lyric chasm]

Well as Sombra stated, clean records, clean life

[mossy vale]

Are there any other canon couples besides tracer and Emily, widow and her late husband, reaper and his wife, etc? Like is there a list?

When I first got into overwatch in like middle school the fandom had convinced me that hanzo and cass had a thing even though that’s not even lore accurate or in the games LMAO

[peak escarp]

Current relationships:
Lena Oxton (Tracer) and Emily
Torbjorn Lindholm and Ingrid Lindholm
Findlay Docherty (Hazard) and Suzannah

Past relationships:
Amelie Lacriox (Widowmaker) and Gerard Lacroix [she killed Gerard]
Gabriel Reyes (Reaper) and Martina [Martina thinks he's dead]
Jack Morrison (Soldier: 76) and Vincent [mutually separated]

I'm not sure where to put Ana's relationship with Sam

they were married, then Ana went MIA and he thought she was dead, now she's back but not wearing her wedding ring anymore

I'm kinda surprised we have so few heroes with romantic relationships

only 7 out of 43

[spare fox]

As MChu once said, they tend to be "married to their jobs"

[peak escarp]

fair

also very few have siblings

only... Brigitte, Hanzo, Genji, Sojourn

[blazing fulcrum]

did ana ever speak with sam again?

there was a voiceline between pharah and ana

[peak escarp]

they met again in the Christmas comic

[spare fox]

Zarya, Junkerqueen (probably some still alive), Lifeweaver

But the newer heroes are more skewed towards having siblings... I think they're trying to (over) correct maybe

So a future mythic has been leaked
We're not sure if it's for sure the next mythic or if they're skin or weapon skin

||Lifeweaver and Mauga||

[ivory ridge]

Let’s say everyone had to climb to the top on mountain Everest, who’d win?

[spare fox]

The ones who can fly

[ivory ridge]

Climb*

Not fly

Am thinking Lucio or gengi

Last prob road

Wait, maybe Winston

[spare fox]

Sigma, manipulates gravity to the point where he's still climbing enough for it to count as climbing

[ivory ridge]

Oh

That’s if he doesn’t go insane whilst doing so

[spare fox]

He's already insane

[ivory ridge]

Hm

Maybe he thinks he’s climb but in reality it was just him pushing the mountain downwards

[spare fox]

Also gravity and time work (very minutely) differently at such high elevations

[ivory ridge]

Huh

[spare fox]

Yeah time goes faster due to less gravitational pull the farther you are from earth
Relativity and all that

[spare fox]

HYPE for the cons Blizz is attending next month

They're confirmed for Gamescom too, which coincides with the start of S18 coincidentally

[tardy nymph]

How were they leaked

[spare fox]

The file names were found on one of the console stores iirc

It's just file names with [character]mythic.weaponcharm and stuff like that

[tardy nymph]

Ah

Thx

[last slate]

@rustic fog I just ask for one last time. To understand each other. I'm in pain, alright? With all humility. I know it's over, I just want to have a civil discussion.

[last slate]

@rustic fog This is my last attempt. I would love just one last amicable ending to this encounter between us. I hate that it ended this way. If not, then that's fine. I'm sorry for everything. And I'll do better because that's what you would want.

[dusk dome]

The fuck are you even on abt

[spare fox]

Spam just report and/or ignore

[last slate]

I'm talking to the only person who means anything to me.

Sorry this is the place it's happening.

[shell elk]

I think his egirl is breaking up with him 💔

[candid helm]

If a miracle happend and they make overwatch tv show , do you think it'll be edgy and more serious and violent to be +18 ? Or it gonna be the same as the animated shorts ?

[opaque tundra]

Probably the same as the animated shorts

[crisp helm]

Reaper

He can literally teleport

[mossy vale]

He can’t teleport too far… haha

[crisp helm]

True

[spare fox]

Ngl I am so sick of super gritty grimdark-distopian series for games. I want something along the lines of Mauga's animated short

The same tone as like the MCU or Spiderverse/KPDH

[fossil wren]

Ram mythic

(it's not ram mythic)

[fossil wren]

I think it depends a lot on the character the plot focuses on at the time

[candid helm]

You're right and I personally prefer that too. But there are that edgy serious characters like Talon, or even Sojourn and Soldierin overwatch , who wouldn’t really fit a goofy or childish tone — it wouldn’t match their character

[fossil wren]

Reaper, Soldier, Widowmaker, Moira, Ramattra, Doomfist, Hanzo would definitely have a darker or edgy tone

Or at least they are the characters that I think could have a more serious tone

Reaper would be the dark edgy lord bearer of slaughter, His whole character is characterized as that (although certainly in the animations Reaper is unintentionally a goofy villain because of how incompetent he becomes and how much he tries to look dark and evil)

[fossil wren]

Sojourn doesn't have a really dark tone, I think she would have a more "serious" tone, Reinhardt is a similar case although Reinhardt has his personality to reduce the seriousness of the character

[lyric chasm]

OW leans towards that anyways. It has dark topics but it's always about seeing a better day

Too bad for me, I love dark gritty stuff

[rapid quartz]

hi

[spare fox]

I mean, and I absolutely don't mean this in an antagonizing way, take your pick, there's so many game/sci-fi series that are edgy and dark. Again, I don't mean to antagonize

I like the quirky, optimistic character-driven storyline we've gotten so far from Overwatch and I just want more of that

[peak escarp]

you can do serious/dark characters and topics without being 18+

[spare fox]

y'know it can be sad and a bit disheartening from time to time in the narrative but ultimately I want to feel like how I do after watching the cinematics

[tardy nymph]

Feel like they struggle with stakes

That’s all

Spiderverse is good

[spare fox]

which?

[tardy nymph]

Like Marvel movies

Everything is a world ending threat

So nothing is

[spare fox]

i mean which struggles with stakes

oh, well yeah

every movie, three times a year lol

[tardy nymph]

As in it doesn’t feel important after a while

The whole Infinity War Endgame stuff was the first one in a while

But I’m not a Marvel fanatic

I just watch the ones that seem important

Both Spiderverse movies were great tho

Love that style

But I mean it’s dark as in there are stakes

Unc

[spare fox]

tbh I kind of checked out after Endgame - while I've seen a few post EG movies, it just doesn't hit the same

[peak escarp]

I didn't even get that far

[tardy nymph]

Heard Loki was good

[spare fox]

Endgame?

[tardy nymph]

Time stuff is kinda a new step for the universe

[peak escarp]

the MCU peaked at Iron-man 3

[tardy nymph]

Can do so much with it

But time stuff is risky

It can either increase the stakes or lower them

Cuz it’s like well whatever there are a million other timelines where it’s different

[spare fox]

me, I'm not a fan of the multiverse stuff, it kind of feels cheap and like you said, lowered stakes

and it's like "hu hu we can have RDJ back just like that"

[tardy nymph]

I don’t think it has to be that way it’s all about execution

[tardy nymph]

Yeah

[spare fox]

it undoes so much

[tardy nymph]

I think Arcane did it well cuz it wasn’t a big thing

It was complimentary

And Spiderverse does it well imo

[spare fox]

I do like the way Arcane did it

yes

[peak escarp]

I think the Arcane approach would be the best way to handle it

pick one hero and focus on just them and the heroes associated with them

[tardy nymph]

If there were an Overwatch show I’d imagine Tracer would be the protagonist but that’s just me

[peak escarp]

I'd choose the original Overwatch strike team and show how they stopped the omnic crisis

[tardy nymph]

And she’s all about time stuff

[tardy nymph]

Maybe like Arcane do that for a couple episodes and then come into the present

Cuz I feel like a lot of the audience wants to see new stuff

Not just backstory

[peak escarp]

basically I want First Strike but as a series

they can do present day stuff later

[spare fox]

yeah I think Genesis and Declassified did their jobs, I do want to see more current stuff

[tardy nymph]

Overwatch has been backstory since its inception basically

[spare fox]

like the new team working together, uncovering some of the mysteries they've been stringing along

[peak escarp]

or tell some backstory that still hasn't been told - like the Swiss HQ explosion

[tardy nymph]

While I like the comics they are doing for characters I think if they were to fund full cinematics or gameplay stuff it should be new

[peak escarp]

what really happened between Reyes and Morrison?

[tardy nymph]

Is that really not even known yet?

[peak escarp]

nope

[tardy nymph]

Lol damn

[peak escarp]

there's theories, both in-universe and in the community

but the official story isn't known

[tardy nymph]

Can anybody give me info on Soldiers old partner?

I know there’s a video for the short story but it’s long for me

Want to see if I’d be interested before listening to an hour long short story

It’s about Illari and Solduer yeah

[spare fox]

Vincent, they met in college, he's an historian/archeologist/anthropologist

[tardy nymph]

Mmmm interesting

Is that unrelated to the wayfinders or

[spare fox]

yeah just listen to it

[peak escarp]

his name is Vincent, they met in university and dated for several years before they mutually broke up because Jack couldn't both commit to the relationship and lead Overwatch (he chose Overwatch)

[tardy nymph]

I see

Wonder why Tracer didn’t have that problem

[spare fox]

just listen to it or read it - it doesn't take an hour to read

[peak escarp]

Emily seems more understanding than Vincent

[tardy nymph]

I’m Autistic my brain shuts down with 5 minutes of reading a book

The biggest book I’ve read is a 400 page one over like 4 months

That was a doozy

[tardy nymph]

Oh Vincent wasn’t?

Is it like a superhero thing

You know the classic don’t have time for me cuz superhero activities

[spare fox]

you can listen to it and speed up the track a bit too

[tardy nymph]

Maybe I’ll do that

[peak escarp]

Vincent kept waiting for Jack to be ready to start a family and settle down, but he never did

[tardy nymph]

I see

Makes sense I suppose

[peak escarp]

tbh we don't know much about Emily, but she seems very supportive of Lena's work with Overwatch

and she's friends with Winston too

[tardy nymph]

Awww

Winston is so weird

[spare fox]

and Lena and Emily so far are on the same continent at least

[tardy nymph]

Like does he have citizenship

What are the rules around a sentient monkey participating in civilization

Does he have rights?

Like human rights?

[peak escarp]

Winston pays (or did pay) Swiss taxes

[tardy nymph]

Lol oh no

[peak escarp]

I assume he has human rights

[tardy nymph]

Interesting

[peak escarp]

he probably had a personhood hearing, like Aurora did

[spare fox]

yeah he went through a simiilar process as Aurora, he has personhood

[tardy nymph]

I just think it’d be so interesting having a comic or cinematic about that

About him coming to Earth

And trying to fit in

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

That’s cool

Hammond is different cuz he just lives in an anarchic wasteland essentially

But Winston is like tryna live a regular life

[spare fox]

yeah Hammond doesn't seem to care about it

he's friends with JQ and the champ, that's enough for him it seems

though he does want Lijiang to burn

[peak escarp]

also prior to the short story "Friendly Rivalry", Hammond's true identity as a genetically enhanced hamster was only known to the Queen

[tardy nymph]

So they just thought he was a robot?

[peak escarp]

they thought he was a person in a mech

[tardy nymph]

Oh

A tiny person?

[peak escarp]

because mech fights are big in Junkertown

[tardy nymph]

Mmmm

We see that one person in a mech in the Junker Queen cinematic

[peak escarp]

The crowd went silent. Then, finally, someone spoke.
“That’s the champion?” asked Outback Bill.
The hamster shook his fist and chittered angrily. Lights flashed on the front of the mech.
“He says, ‘You’ll suffer for that,’” the mech translated.
Leaping to their feet, the crowd roared in approval.```

the Junkers don't care, they just like that he's violent

[tardy nymph]

Lol

Classic

I know we have so many Australian characters already but I’d like to see the other non Wasteland part of Australian repped

Maybe just through a map or something

Cuz like outside the outback Australia is pretty normal yeah

Posh in comparison

Think there was a comic about Junkrat and Road in Sydney

Doing a heist

[peak escarp]

technically there is one map in Sydney

it's a Lucioball map 😛

[tardy nymph]

Oh really?

Oh lolol

I wonder if Overwatch is going to use any buildings or projects that are currently being built in maps and stuff

They focus on a lot of big cities that have all these mega changes to them

Like if we got a Riyadh map would they include that super big building they’re making there

Doesn’t feel like they’ve gotten too ambitious with changing the world from our own

Outside of like Numbani

[peak escarp]

dunno

[tardy nymph]

Numbani is interesting

Only like completely fictional modern city

That I’m aware of

It’s like a reverse Lagos

Right in north Nigeria I think

On the border

[peak escarp]

yeah

Numbani seems to be a city-state, like San Marino or the Vatican

self-governing

[tardy nymph]

Oh

That’s interesting

I know they probably want to avoid politics as much as possible

So like changing borders or like making countries different is probably off the radar for them

[peak escarp]

yeah, they won't change any borders or split/unify any countries

[tardy nymph]

Tho I guess they did make Australia essentially abandon its outback

I found the whole um knights of Germany thing

What are they called

[peak escarp]

they probably won't mention any disputed territories either, like Hong Kong or Taiwan

[tardy nymph]

Crusaders

That was interesting to read about

Cuz that kinda references Germanys insecurity with being a militant power

How like they wanted to emphasize the force being defensive

Love how they connected that with Reinhardt

That’s a cool bit of world building

Wonder where Wuyang will be from in China

Maybe like Shanghai cuz it’s on the coast

Or maybe Shenzen

Mei is from Xian

Like central China

So it’d make sense for the water guy to represent coastal China

Maybe he’s Cantonese specifically or something

[peak escarp]

that would be interesting

[tardy nymph]

What is the Wild West of America supposed to be

Is it like Americas version of the outback

Like destroyed by omnic stuff

Or is it just normal but for some reason everybody just adopted the Wild West aesthetic again

[peak escarp]

Cassidy just likes the cowboy look

the rest of his gang dressed more like bikers

[tardy nymph]

Mmm

Wonder if any countries merge or gain independence in recent times how that would affect Overwatxhes world building and whatnot

[peak escarp]

it would probably get retconned in

but that's unlikely to happen

[tardy nymph]

Yeah

Always difficult making a near future story and not having current events mess it up

[shy dagger]

Are you guys tired of new retcons with every new hero or are you fine with it? I see this as a talking point occasionally within the fandom, and both sides kinda have a compelling point

[peak escarp]

what new retcons?

[shy dagger]

Talking generally, every new hero comes with a retcon nowadays.
I think it makes sense cause duh they need to be of age to be in the roster

Some people consider this a bad thing though idk

[peak escarp]

I don't know any of these retcons

there are very few actual retcons overall in Overwatch's story, which is impressive considering the number of writers we've gone through

[spare fox]

there's been a negligable amount of retcons and most of them have been correcting ages

which isn't a retcon so much as a correction

[peak escarp]

the last big retcon I can think of was correcting Zenyatta's age from 20 to 33

[spare fox]

and ngl that probably had more to do with when omnic birthdays are considered re: sentience

[peak escarp]

yeah

they probably didn't have the crisis/Awakening timeline figured out when they wrote Zenyatta's original age

but they figured it out with OW2, so it got updated

[spare fox]

right bc w OW1 the crisis was "20 years ago"

[peak escarp]

30 years ago

[shy dagger]

Then I think people are confusing “Retcons” with “new lore”
Cause like..they call Freja and Hazard’s backstories “retcons” lol

[peak escarp]

as Winston says in his recall

[peak escarp]

new lore is not retcons

[shy dagger]

Yessss

Note taken: don’t take opinions from Reddit 🙂‍↔️ ❌

[peak escarp]

seriously

retcon stands for "retroactive continuity" - changing established lore and pretending it was always that way

new heroes don't change old lore - their lore fits nicely into the existing lore without changing anything

[shy dagger]

Interesting, thanks for the distinction

[peak escarp]

an example of a retcon would be if the plane that crashed into Hazard's apartment was the Slipstream - we already know that the Slipstream disappeared, so that would have changed existing lore

[past copper]

I kinda think another example of a retcon is Star Wars

If you wanna simplify it for people

Anyway, since it appears Lifeweaver might be getting the mythic skin next, what do we think the theme for next season might be?

[peak escarp]

I think that "leak" was fake

mythics aren't put in bundles

[past copper]

I’m kinda hoping for some of the concept skins we saw

Technically, it could just be a shorthand thing since mythics are all in shop now, but idk

And you don’t get them all at once anymore

[peak escarp]

also they had no evidence

they claimed to find it (on a website?) but have no photos or even the url they found it at

[past copper]

Actually, come to think of it… won’t the next season be around the Halloween season?

I can’t remember, I’m not sure when this season ends

[peak escarp]

wouldn't it be Aug-sept-oct

[past copper]

Yea

Kinda makes me think any of these are the Halloween theme skins

[shy dagger]

These skins are fire holy

[spare fox]

yeah halloween will probably be s19

but they could and have done extra long/short seasons before so

[past copper]

Technically, S17 is meant to end around Aug. 26

Given seasons run for 9 weeks, it could be S19 when we get the Halloween theme

Heh. I just an ironic thought to that

Imagine this is the S18 theme: Slumberwatch or Dreamwatch?

[azure flint]

aqua lore midseason

trust

[fossil wren]

The second image is more likely for an angel theme

[past copper]

I mean, two images have angels in them

[fossil wren]

That Cassidy skin in the last image is fire

[past copper]

One just looks more like fallen angels

[fossil wren]

Third image is fallen angels

[fossil wren]

Winston skin is peak

Also that ball skin looks so funny

But they look to meme

I don't think it's a serious proposal

[past copper]

Pretty sure the Ball one is making fun of a knockoff plushie

[fossil wren]

Memewatch

[past copper]

Honestly, those skins are giving me flashbacks to that game, It Takes Two

Kinda why I think it would be called Dreamwatch

[fossil wren]

Personally I think we've had enough vampires so the first image is a no

[past copper]

I mean… 🤷‍♂️ vampire are the most iconic Halloween monster

But I don’t disagree

[fossil wren]

Werewolves exist

They could do something with werewolves

[past copper]

Only one who could pass as a werewolf is Cole, let’s be honest here

[fossil wren]

You have no vision

Werewolf mauga

[peak escarp]

are you forgetting that Winston already has a werewolf skin?

[past copper]

I know he does, but I mean I just can’t see anyone else getting a werewolf skin

[fossil wren]

True

[past copper]

Junkrat tho is overdue for a new Halloween skin. Kinda tired of seeing Junkenstein and Inferno

[fossil wren]

Too late, Blizzard is definitely going to reuse that skin and that event

Hey at least junkrat got a new skin this Season

[past copper]

I mean, if they bring back the Lab, I think people would appreciate it

[peak escarp]

they should make a stadium version of Junkenstein

[past copper]

Exactly

[fossil wren]

That would actually be a pretty cool and interesting change

[peak escarp]

they should add the Stadium armory to story missions

[past copper]

They might someday. Stadium is a hit game mode right now

Also, there is no way in hell Freja isn’t getting a monster hunter skin for Halloween

If they don’t do that, it’s a waste of potential

Ooo, that would be a fun addition to the team fighting Junkenstein in a stadium game mode

[fossil wren]

Freja Van Helsing would have been cool but Cass already has that skin, although Freja can always get a random monster hunter skin

[past copper]

They could make Hazard a new monster?

[peak escarp]

he'd make a good Modern Prometheus (aka Frankenstein's monster)

[spare fox]

and a Victor Moirastein

[past copper]

Technically speaking, Moira has a ton of monster themed skins

Even her plague doctor skin fits

[fossil wren]

You don't need to dress up as a monster when you already are one

[candid helm]

Reaper DEFINITELY should be more like gin from conan, i think that suits him more

[spare fox]

yeah but that hasn't really stopped them before tbh I meanhow many clown-type skins does junkrat have

[fossil wren]

Never watched conan so idk

[spare fox]

Oh and what's all this about a Chinese overwatch visual novel what excuse me?

Is this going to be like the kiriko manga that doesn't get an official translation? 😢

[shy dagger]

Mfw China only got access to the game 2 seasons ago yet they’re already getting special content

[fossil wren]

Kiriko got a manga?

[native current]

I want harem

[grand wedge]

she got this : https://youtu.be/2DpZCN2Uphg

never translated elsewhere

But i don't have the source of the manga, if someone could share it, it would be great!

found it : https://www.corocoro.jp/title/431

[grim pike]

🇫

[flint rivet]

Given the different universes, what you all think the overwatch academy lore is? Just high school stuff or is it college?

[spare fox]

I'm pretty sure it's a high school au

I don't think college has uniforms, but I could be wrong

[near goblet]

has ramattra revealed himself as the null sector leader during his attacks?

like does everyone know he's the guy

[spare fox]

no, I think only Talon knows

and only the ones who need to know, at that

[near goblet]

ahhh i see! tysmmm

[lyric chasm]

Ikr? Like, can we get apology content in the west too? 😔

[spare fox]

I'm not even mad that they get all those free skins and whatever, tbh like I don't care about that

but the content like ggggggg

[peak escarp]

apology for what

[lyric chasm]

Promises not held

[peak escarp]

good luck with that

[spare fox]

I mean I didn't even mean it as "apology content" as in apology to westerners. I get that they want apology content to China as the game was taken from them for however long

[hot cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/109672661671505920/1395597338218860706/7E182950-BC12-4A1E-A032-C6A0DB17D6D8.gif

[lyric chasm]

Yeah it was just my words, but part of the game was also promised to us and not delivered.

Like I'm glad w the state of the game rn

But still technically we didn't get things tgat were promised

If they're going to make cool content to bring attraction back to the game, would be nice to have it too

[past copper]

Just thought of another possible theme for a season. Gardenwatch? Eh?

With Lifeweaver getting a mythic out of it

Or just give us more gardener or botanist skins. Whichever’s clever

[twin rune]

Thats clever RYU

Make like a watering can for Torbjorn

LOL