lore-discussion

[golden oak]

But anyways, Ganymede is the strongest character in the lore

[spare fox]

No no no it's the drop ship basketball

[candid helm]

Fair point , i mean look how strong he is
https://cdn.donmai.us/original/44/f8/__bastion_and_ganymede_overwatch__44f8e4fe295ef4e8bcaae9639e16458a.jpg

But jokes aside how do you rank them top 10

[golden oak]

I wouldn’t because it’s very subjective and we don’t even have enough lore for some heroes and we can’t really rank them because of it

That’s why I think it’s pointless

If every hero had at least one fight they took part in we could maybe rank that

And people put sigma at number one when we didn’t even see his powers in action or if he can even control them properly

[rare trail]

idk i think her tattoos are just like a culture thing

i dont know if any people actually practice ancient egyptian religion

[subtle gyro]

hi

[rose fossil]

Is there a talon hierarchy that we know off

[peak escarp]

Talon is led by a council - council members include Doomfist, Moira, Reaper, Sanjay Korpal and Maximilien

[elfin bane]

Woah

Big lore

Wish I could read this all

But what ive read so far this is all very interesting

They really need to make an arcane level Overwatch show

It would be a crazy good move to keep people interested after marvel rivals dropped

[grand wedge]

yeah, if only Blizzard didn't sue Netflix for an employee that left Blizz for them.... 💀

[elfin bane]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

WHAT NOOOOOOO

Why blizzard

[grand wedge]

Kotic greed, probably

[dusk granite]

how is mercy 39 and pharah 34 😭

[dusk granite]

how is this a 5 year age gap

[grave frost]

I can see it

Growth spurt

[rare trail]

puberty 🤯

[dusk granite]

my brain genuinely cant compute because of cass and rein in the background

[hushed jetty]

this is a really old picture that wad probably made before ages were decided

but also, mercy is supposed to be 18 there

and then pharah is like 13

its still not a great pic but still

[keen summit]

Oh btw

[keen summit]

Pve directer returned

Sooo

I mightbe been right

[hushed jetty]

yeah!!! pve is alive and well

[peak escarp]

easy - Fareeha is 12, Mercy is 17

at least, according to the former head writer

[little briar]

Agree! Is that Asa in the frame with Hanzo and Kiriko?

[past copper]

Yes

[queen eagle]

Yep

True

https://tenor.com/view/orisa-overwatch-ow2-horse-centaur-gif-4850180783275545942

[crude monolith]

Hello

Eat a taki moss

[acoustic ice]

I just noticed that Lifeweaver in the Together comic doesn’t have a prosthetic arm

I thought he was supposed to have one like Sym?

[spare fox]

yeah we're not sure on that

[peak escarp]

seems like his might be a glove?

it's unclear

[spare fox]

this shot from his Origin story and hero profile doesn't have it?

[peak escarp]

it's possible his is a glove and Symmetra's is a prosthetic

maybe Symmetra needed her arm replaced for whatever reason

[crude monolith]

!!ban @peak escarp

[twilit nacelle]

@halcyon dagger has been banned from the server.

[peak escarp]

?

[hushed jetty]

https://x.com/d3watch/status/1870582259566395751

very nice labeling of the big christmas dinner picture

[peak escarp]

you're welcome

[hushed jetty]

oh of COURSE it was you 😭

who else

[peak escarp]

tbh I'm surprised it was picked up by Japanese OW Twitter

I posted it on reddit this morning

the comments have been mostly positive, besides the "HIS NAME'S MCCREE" people

people appreciate my colour coding

[wheat palm]

Hi guys

[shy dagger]

These people are stuck in the past. I doubt most are still playing the game lol

[queen eagle]

Honse

[past copper]

A little birdie told me you forgot something 😏

[queen scaffold]

If you made this well done, this is cool
how did you remove the speech bubbles

[peak escarp]

I copied the image directly from the pdf of the comic

[peak escarp]

I didn't forget anyone, this is a list of everyone who is at the table

Ganymede isn't at the table, he's above it

[queen scaffold]

What about the babies zaryas holding

[past copper]

So Bastion’s first and best friend doesn’t count?

[peak escarp]

we don't have names for them

[queen scaffold]

If orisa counts as at the table so does ganymede

[peak escarp]

also Ganymede isn't a person

[past copper]

And Orisa technically isn’t AT the table

[queen scaffold]

[peak escarp]

Bastion is an omnic, omnics are people

[past copper]

Isn’t Echo not an ominc tho?

[peak escarp]

she's still more of a person than a bird

[past copper]

Gasp! How dare you! Ganymede is more than a bird! That is the bird who changed Bastion for the better!

[peak escarp]

he's still a bird

not a person

not even person-like

[past copper]

I certainly wouldn’t use the term “person-like” when two of these guys don’t look like a person

[peak escarp]

what

it's not about looking like a person

[past copper]

Bastion and Orisa don’t look like people, but whatever

[peak escarp]

I never said they looked like people

I said they were people-like

meaning they're actual characters in the game, not a goddamn bird

[queen eagle]

SHE IS

https://tenor.com/view/orisa-overwatch-ow2-horse-centaur-gif-4850180783275545942

[queen eagle]

I won't see a human who looks like ram

[past copper]

Nope. Orisa more or less sitting where a family dog sits

[queen eagle]

Head looks like a skull

[queen eagle]

🖕

Horse is the man of the house

[past copper]

Don’t shoot the messenger for the artist’s actions

[peak escarp]

you're the one calling her a dog

[queen eagle]

A pet dog isn't gonna be a 1 man police force

[peak escarp]

Orisa is obviously aside from the table because she's accepting a gift from Fola

[past copper]

No. I said Orisa is sitting where a family dog sits on the holidays

[peak escarp]

Echo doesn't have a seat at the table either

[queen eagle]

She also got a puppy

[peak escarp]

she's just clearing plates

[queen eagle]

Also

Horse is too big to sit on a seat

Remember that

How tf is she gonna sit on a seat

4 legs

2 torsos

[spare fox]

u guys this is a nothingburger

[cloud otter]

horse is the seat

peak

[peak escarp]

I'm just tired of people saying "umm you forgot the BIRD"

[past copper]

Literally never said she needed a seat. Especially since she could just sit directly at the table on all fours

[queen eagle]

Orisa is the height of someone while sitting

[queen eagle]

Oh

[past copper]

Also, bit of wasted opportunity

Ashe, BOB, n Genji could have gotten these as Winter skins

Take note Blizzard! Next year, Cozywatch! Make it happen

[peak escarp]

Gingerbread Bob is the only good one

[past copper]

Hmm. Just thought of a good one

[hushed jetty]

winter mercy was good, which is why we got it

genji and ashe would be epic skins i fear

except for bob

[past copper]

In light of the Orisa, Mei, and Juno skins, how’s about StellarWatch?

[past copper]

At some point for a season theme, StellarWatch

[untold sail]

Hi what is your favorite name Skarlett or Skarlet ?

[spare fox]

they both look like misspellings and wrong channel so

[crude monolith]

Where’s doom

[peak escarp]

Doomfist isn't part of Overwatch

all the non-Overwatch heroes are featured on a different page

[queen eagle]

They're not gonna fucking invite doom to the dinner table

Only overwatch members and their friends

[crude monolith]

Doom is coming

[queen eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/doomfist-talon-reaction-formal-my-honest-reaction-meme-sigma-overwatch-gif-6430891053881223732

[open bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/stk-soldier-76-kisse-mercy-doomfist-gif-14696870641812484349

[cloud otter]

My pfp spotted

[lofty wagon]

That is still my favorite Orisa skin (after appa)

[queen eagle]

Honse

[keen summit]

Illari not being forgotten for once

[worthy rose]

This is everything to me

[peak escarp]

I'm very curious to see what happens when Jack finds Illari

he's not really the best person to help her deal with her situation though

[spare fox]

yeah but I kinda love that: it's going to be interesting!

I love when there's a large ensemble cast and unlikely characters are put together, even if just temporarily

[peak escarp]

yeah it's nice to see where everyone is at

and it's a nice parallel with the similar panel from 8 years ago

HANG ON

[spare fox]

yeah that was mentioned, idk if it's for her or if it's a general decoration?

[peak escarp]

does make me wonder if anyone in the cast is jewish

[spare fox]

(there's also not enough candles lol)

OH wait it might be for Kwanzaa

that one has 7 candles

a kinara

[peak escarp]

their candles arent usually shaped like that though

it's usually wide and low, with red black and green candles

[spare fox]

yeah it's probably meant to be a menorah

[untold sail]

Hey what is your favorite gametag Skarlett Skarlet Shizuku Machi or Alluka ?

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[past copper]

I noticed that too, bit didn't wanna say nothing for one reason

It's missing two of the candleholders 🕎

Idk if that was bc of limited room for the artist or if that's just a regular candleholder 🤷‍♂️

Although, if I had to bet money on someone being Jewish, I'd bet Winston

[peak escarp]

why Winston?

[past copper]

Bc it might be in respect to his father figure. Harold Winston sounds Jewish does it not?

[peak escarp]

🤷‍♀️

[spare fox]

I'm pretty sure none of the heroes have any voicelines referencing hanukkah right?

I've seen it headcanon'd by fans that Angela is Jewish but nothing official

[peak escarp]

nope

could just be for inclusivity

[spare forge]

i like the mirrowatch lore

[cosmic crest]

I feel like mirrorwatch could have made for an interesting story where one or more heroes gets transported to the mirror universe due to time/space shenanigans or what have you.

But no, it's just yet another alt universe that has nothing to do with anything.

[hushed jetty]

all of the seasons are alt universes that have nothing to do with anything

except for the pve season

they havent been doing story stuff for the recent themes, iirc last time they did was maybe starwatch?

[scenic rain]

any shadow slave readers in the chat?

[cosmic crest]

Exactly

[queen scaffold]

Soldier is my favourite character in the lore (not as in my favourite character overall)

i find him the most interesting

theres characters like winston and tracer and mei but i dont think theres much too them rn other than being good guys

On the opposite end someone like genji for example still has his broken relationship with hanzo, his relationship with zen and being in overwatch and how that could tie into a story, how that could go somewhere

of course all the characters have their backstories and those are interesting but I mean how that could tie in to future stories, the possibilities and pathways you can see these characters going

(They wont go anywhere because ow lore got discontinued for the most part)

Soldier 76 is the most interesting to me because he has some connections to other characters but is disconnected from overwatch

Hes travelling the world, he was in mexico in his cinematic, then i remember a comic where hes in a desert

and now hes in peru with illari

theres directions his story could go

[peak escarp]

the lore isn't discontinued

the Christmas comic hints at future stories - they wouldn't do that if they had nothing planned

[merry token]

Honestly quite glad they decided to commission Vel again for an official piece

[spare fox]

yeah we got the second christmas comic, the new Max short story, those datamined Max voicelines

they def have something cooking with the story

[winged sierra]

Cope

[spare fox]

k I guess they're just doing story-related stuff without a story mb

[gilded hare]

Did yall seen the new villian group in one piece? God damn

Probably gon be better than akatsuki
Ngl

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[craggy cipher]

Is the Christmas comic Canon to the story?

[vapid tusk]

based on what ive seen in cinematics
I say Widow regularly beats Tracer
lmk if you disagree

[merry token]

Yeah

[limber furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-where-why-how-gif-11254825541557537884

[crude monolith]

spongebob square pants

hello

[queen eagle]

Horse primary

[merry mason]

The lore isn’t even going as slow as it did in late OW 1 why do people act they shut it down forever instead of just going back to business as usual

[cosmic crest]

Because it's still not living up to even a fraction of its potential

[spare fox]

and people like to complain bc it's a meme to do so at this point
which even I am guilty of at some times but yeah

[merry mason]

Yeah it’s a shame that this is what “business as usual” looks like but people act like Aaron Keller got up on stage and said “overwatch lore is over, we need to make more kiriko skins”

[fleet nest]

Genji and Hanzo are brothers right?

[spare fox]

yes

[fleet nest]

Oh

What's the relationship between Mercy and reimhardt

[spare fox]

friends and colleagues

[fleet nest]

Oh aight

They should make an overwatch movie fr

[spare fox]

yeah

[twilit patrol]

I think a series would be better

[spare fox]

same but I wouldn't complain

[marble charm]

I'd be happy with either but

40 minute long episodes central to a small bundle of characters would be more enjoyable

Movie - The rise and fall of Overwatch during and after the omnic crisis

Series - Stories resolving around the various characters, their relationship, adventures and challenges prior to recall with rhe final few episodes tying into either the recall at the start of OW1 or the proper reformation of Overwatch at the start of OW2

Movie - a second movie post recall (further into the future than anything we've seen so far, so essentially post hazard) where the heroes fight off talon or null sector

[elfin bane]

Yea

I want it so bad

[marble charm]

Yea so real

[fleet nest]

Fr

Least they could do is drop a comic

[peak escarp]

we just got one a couple days ago

[fleet nest]

Fr?

[marble charm]

Christmas comic yea

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/together-comic/

[stable pagoda]

All Overwatch Character Ultimate's > 3 Million Lions

[queen eagle]

Terra surge

[untold sail]

Hey what is your favorite name ?

Rize, Scarlett, Skarlett, Shizuku, ScarletRose, Skarlet, fubuki, makima, lize, Lust, Blair, Ruby

[past copper]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[keen summit]

Tbf pve is likely wotked on again now, the lead got rehired and max got new pve lines

[keen summit]

Can you stop asking

[queen scaffold]

They fired the story team or pve team or something like that

[queen scaffold]

I think the best thing would be 20 min episodes, each exploring a different group of characters, 1 for soldier and others, 1 for zenyatta and others etc
Although this wouldnt be a continuous story which we havent really gotten yet so maybe something just focused on overwatch or blackwatch in the past would be better

[keen summit]

They layed iff

Aka delayed it

They rehired the pve director

They layed off most of the team in every branch

The fact they rehired and added pve lines? Tells me more

[green pike]

I headcanon blackwatch genii had mutism

Sexy

[spare fox]

he spoke though

just not as much as the others but yeah, no he didn't have mutism

[vapid tusk]

he was just edgy not mute

[untold sail]

hiii what is your favorite name Evelyn, Makima or Scarlett ?

[fair plover]

guys i want to ask a question

since im a cassidy main , and i read so much about the lore , a question has been rlly disturbing me long time ago

who took cassidy's arm or cut it ? idk rlly but do we have any kind of infos about what happened ?

[hushed jetty]

we dont know

it happened after overwatch disbanded, i think

i might be making that up

[marble charm]

The blackwatch skin does have two flesh arms so assuming he was still in blackwatch at the disbanding then yea after

Although I sorta like the idea of him losing it during the disbanding

[peak escarp]

he lost it some time between the fall of Overwatch and Winston's recall

[spare fox]

There seems to be such a buildup of it

I hope the story surrounding it isn't a let down like Reinhardt's forced retirement

[green pike]

he should keep it shush

[spare fox]

Huh?

[frail grove]

Anyone who got an idea when Maximilien’s Vault is gonna come out and whet exactly it’ll be?

Seems to imply you’ll be able to buy old skins for cheap but do we know how and if this even is what it’ll be?

[fleet nest]

Evelyn

[past copper]

🎄 Merry Christmas ya'll 🎄

Hope you all are having a wonderful holiday ☺

[queen eagle]

Merry Halloween

[last osprey]

do yall think ana and rein fucked in anubis?

[queen eagle]

Huh

Whats happening there?

[past copper]

Just a shitposter ignore em

[queen eagle]

Oh

I read it wrong

I thought they said "do yall think ana and rein are fucked in anubis?"

[hushed jetty]

i dont even know what you're referring to so idk

[open bolt]

I don’t think so. Someone data mined them but that’s not a guarantee they’ll ever be added.

[snow fractal]

is galactica like the tape worm of galactis

[untold sail]

hii what is your favorite gamertag Scarlet, Lila, Makima, Evelyn ?

[frail grove]

Ah damm I’ve been holding off on a lot of the skins waiting for the vault thingy

[past copper]

🎄🎁☃️ Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone! ☃️🎁🎄

[spare fox]

Are we so sure that it's for the skin shop?

Me personally I'm holding on hope that it's a new game mode where you "buy" powerups, like the Junkenstein's Lab

[shy dagger]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[past copper]

Don't be a Scrooge just because you hate the holidays

[shy dagger]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[peak escarp]

stop

[viscid ledge]

They’re kinda right tho

[peak escarp]

a holiday greeting is not shitposting

[past copper]

THANK YOU!

[worthy rose]

AND WITH ART OF THE GAME TOO BTW

But happy holidays to the people of lore ^^

[twilit patrol]

Happy holidays

[vapid tusk]

common doctor six W

[spare fox]

Here's to a lore-ful 2025!

[queen eagle]

Is this official?

Just wondering

[merry token]

No, Breikka is just a fan artist

[queen eagle]

Aight

Bro i thought it was official

[jaunty elbow]

https://x.com/breikka/status/1871707436870222148 (Sorry for the link, i just want to properly source this art since its been getting reposted without credit way too much)

[queen eagle]

Wait so before the junies

Orisa just protected all of numbani

ALL BY HERSELF?

[past copper]

Not really

Orisa was still learning

And unfortunately with a new hero learning, there will be accidents

The first time she faced Doomfist at the museum didn’t go over so well, but luckily Efi saved her

The second time they faced off, Efi and Lucio helped her drive Doomfist out of Numbani

I don’t think Talon ever reared their heads again after that, which gave Efi plenty of time to upgrade Orisa for if/when they do

[queen eagle]

The first time was just a bunch of or-15s tho

Honse went from an idiot to a gigachad

Thats nice

[past copper]

No. The first time was at the museum, bc Orisa didn’t exist until after the airport

[ionic summit]

Really? You really think ramattra would celebrate christmas with queen, sojourn and kiriko?

[queen eagle]

Yeah

[queen eagle]

Oh

Honse failed....

[viscid ledge]

The whole day didn’t consist of lore discussion that day~

[spare fox]

So, I was thinking about Hazard's age. Apparently you can join the military at 16 in Scotland

Which I assume is rare but given the circumstances where his parents were in the military and he was feeling lost/hopeless, it makes sense he was talked into joining at 16

Then the OW ship getting shot down happening the next year when he was 17

Not outside the realm of possibility

[neon harbor]

I’m mad Hazard has better structured lore than kiriko.

[grand wedge]

In the short they posted the other day, they said the accident happened shortly after he enlisted, so I’d say he was in the army for a few weeks top.

[spare fox]

What short?

[grand wedge]

this one : https://fixupx.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1869835302862233764

[dusk granite]

maybe off topic but sorta in the lore

i like the fact that illari's voice is boring.
she doesn't really know what to do and is awkward around others

probably one of my favorite characters (that got released in ow2)

[spare fox]

there IS a lot of subtext and great acting in OW

it's that blizzard polish

and honestly one of the things OW does infinitely better than Rivals - the Rivals heroes just sound bland

and I wouldn't call Illari's voice "boring" I would call it "subdued"

[worthy rose]

Because people were enjoying the holidays as they deserve

[viscid ledge]

Ok that doesn’t change anything

[past copper]

And because the stories revolving around Marvel characters has become repetitive and unoriginal

Where as Overwatch is original and still growing

[shy dagger]

She’s not boring but more like traumatized and still inside her shell

[marble charm]

No because it totally doesn't explain why people weren't chatting about overwatch Lore

[marble charm]

I wouldn't call them repetitive and boring, it's just you don't need voice lines to understand the different relationships characters have between eachother, because practically every relationship possible has already been explored in some way or form

[vast swift]

Do we know its an ow jet or do we know that a talon jet shut down another rjet??.

[spare fox]

they said it was an OW jet and we're assuming it's a Talon jet

[vast swift]

Which shows her ptsd

[vast swift]

Ok ty

[spare fox]

yeah it appears to be at least the same kind of jet as the one Tracer used during the slipstream experiment

there's a theory that it was the now-unmanned jet that Tracer disappeared from

[vast swift]

Oh yh makes sense

do u think another meka will be added to the lineup or not

[spare fox]

a lot of people are saying that the jet disappeared but the Tracer origin vid just said she disappeared, not the jet

[spare fox]

not in the foreseeable future but who knows

[vast swift]

But dod they specify that the jet did not go missing?

[spare fox]

no but the origin vid just shows Tracer vanishing from the jet's seat and I think she says "I vanished" but I don't recall at this second and I can't rewatch it at the moment

[vast swift]

Oke

[past copper]

What does that have to do with me calling Marvel repetitive and unoriginal next to Overwatch?

[crude monolith]

remember guys to brush ur
teeth and exfoliate every morning

[grand wedge]

It was not Tracer’s Splitstream jet. She didn’t crash it, she lost it somewhere in time.

[marble charm]

^^

Tracers tech was put into a overwatch jet fighter

They added it to the Base model, which is what Hazard was hit by

[grand wedge]

The model of the jet that crashed in hazard comic was found in artstation, concept art made by a dev

Here https://hcldesignworks.artstation.com/projects/eJLlmZ

2018 concept btw

It’s just a jet, yes I’d does look a bit like the splitstream, and it’s probably not the same tech, it just looks like it

[warped girder]

Their character interactions aren’t as telling but I think it’s also cause it’s less mysterious. We know the cast in rivals, we don’t know the ow characters

[spare fox]

mysterious I'll admit, however with all the years of history and lore these characters have you'd think there'd be more interesting interactions. Idk I feel like a kid playing with marvel action figures could come up with more interesting lines than the ones that currently exist. I mean the game's only a month old so maybe they'll get better lines

and better acting direction maybe

[warped girder]

Yea I agree that it’s not the best, I just think overwatch has a bit of an advantage of grasping for literally any interaction because we want to know more about these characters

I don’t care to learn as much about marvel characters, I already know them

I do snore anytime captain America talks to anyone

Dude is the most boring personality

[peak escarp]

according to Hazard's bio, it was a dropshp that crashed, not a jet - the art in the comic is wrong

[spare fox]

I mean... maybe the bio is wrong

[opaque tundra]

I think there just wasn’t enough communication with the writers and the comic artist

Or they underestimated how much lore nerds pay attention to details

[fleet nest]

I wish you could initiate convo with certain characters when you crouch

[peak escarp]

art has been wrong before

Roadhog is missing his tattoo in Reflections

[merry token]

Lifeweaver is also missing (?) his arm/gauntlet in the new Christmas comic

Unless it was intended to just be an outer glove this whole time

[peak escarp]

it's unclear whether it's a glove or a prosthetic

Symmetra's is a prosthetic according to Michael Chu, but hers might be an exception rather than the rule

she's also the only one with it on her left - in Lifeweaver's origin it showed all the architechs with it on their right arms

so maybe hers is left because she needed a prosthetic for some reason?

we're given very little about Vishkar's architech program

[shy dagger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uI2KVH26xrg?si=_hOWPdr625iT1bZA

So I saw this interaction with Hog and Soj where Overwatch used to “tail” hog before he teamed up with Junk, and does this imply that Hog used to work with Overwatch?

[spare fox]

no, he was in ALF which I am pretty sure Overwatch kept their eye on

seeing as how they blew up an omnium...

[shy dagger]

Oh I see

The junkers are basically a blind spot for me in Overwatch lore. Idk their shenanigans in junkertown or with Hog&Junk being criminals feel like filler to the overall plot

[spare fox]

yeah honestly idk what they are doing with them

it's like they were made just because Fury Road was popular during the development of the game

other than the Christmas comic, last we saw them, JQ and Ball were working on a flying omnic ship that was in the junkertown omnium ruins with the intent of taking a "road trip"

idk where they're going to wind up but undoubtedly they'll run into someone while doing it

[past copper]

I mean, taking a guess here

We don’t know how far the ship can actually get, but probably the flight path would be towards the closest countries near Australia

[spare fox]

that's possible

I am theory-guessing Monte Carlo (Circuit Royale) is a definite possibility

rich stuff to rob and wreck

[past copper]

Kinda doubt it. Depends how far the ship can get before being intercepted. Either by Null Sector or Overwatch or whoever

Personally, I think it depends on where Overwatch next missions will take them

Because it’s highly possible groups paths will cross sooner or later

I do wonder tho, could their path take them to India and possibly run into Zen, LW, and Sym?

[spare fox]

maybe but you have to think like a junker - where would they want to go?

that's why my first guess - of the places that are relevant to the OW universe - is Circuit Royale

Casinos, luxury shops to steal from, race cars getting wrecked

[blazing fulcrum]

yeah they are more filler characters when it comes to lore

the cool side characters

type shit

[past copper]

You aren’t thinking about this tho. Junkers see what’s going on with Null Sector and they hate omnics

So they’re first thought at getting a ship? Get involved by scrapping Null Sector bots to their hearts content

[spare fox]

I guess? I also can't see them focused enough to follow through with a plan like that lol

like we're talking guys that need reminding NOT to blow up their treasure and that get distracted from an execution for "treasure"

literally wild cards in the plot which can be a good thing narratively

[marble charm]

NEW ZEALAND MENTIONED RWAAAA

[west sky]

WHATS VENTURES LORE

WHERE DO I READ

[opaque tundra]

They have a comic and a bio to read on the website

[shy dagger]

They’re just goofy side-characters, and honestly I’m fine with that. It makes for some good world-building imo and makes the Ow lore more diverse

[queen eagle]

Why does ramattra put those helmets on omnics?

Does he have no shame?

[twilit patrol]

To put them to sleep I think

[queen eagle]

I don't think the omnics like that

I think they want to live life

[twilit patrol]

But it does not only put them to sleep

Their data disappear too

[queen eagle]

Oh

Hes evil

Wtf

Why did he attack numbani?

[twilit patrol]

That’s something I’m wondering too

[queen eagle]

Does he want attention from horse or something?

He seems to like her

[twilit patrol]

I don’t think he does

[queen eagle]

Aight

He seems to be nice to her

Even says sorry when he kills her ingame

[twilit patrol]

She wouldn’t join him anyway

[queen eagle]

True

Horse low-key hates ram

[twilit patrol]

Yeah

[queen eagle]

Maybe what rams doing

Is justified

The Brits killed his kind

So all humans must die

Some are bad

So lets kill all of them

[twilit patrol]

That’s not what he wants

[queen eagle]

[twilit patrol]

So

[queen eagle]

Oh

True

Hes doing it tho

He wants peace

For his kind

[twilit patrol]

He’s noble but his actions aren’t

Because Null Sector kills literally a lot of innocents

[queen eagle]

"we will have peace at any cost"

Killed some numbani citizens

Rams like thanos

Big, purple, good motives, bad actions

[twilit patrol]

Kinda

[shy dagger]

To probably mind control them so they can serve Null Sector but we don’t know for sure

[shy dagger]

I don’t think he cares about human casualties

[late star]

I don't think anyone cares about deaths from a place called Numbani

I have a question about moira. Why did they make her Irish and an Emo?

[peak escarp]

she's not emo

[shy dagger]

It’s actually a huge city in the ow universe so yea kinda of a big deal

[late star]

She's always done in the dumps, talking about entropy

I bet she smokes too

[timber idol]

Is widowmaker purple or blue?

[queen eagle]

Purple

Ramattra is also purple

But way cooler

[timber idol]

All this time i thought she was blue like a smurf

Thanks for clarifying

[queen eagle]

She probably smurfs in ranked

Thats something ig

[frail snow]

Does anyone think we'll get 3 more missions in February? (https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/1hnhwv6/do_you_think_theyll_stick_to_this_plan_and_give_3/)

[spare fox]

my view: hope for the best, expect the worst (or nothing)

[frail snow]

Apparently they wanted to do 3 missions every 18 months and 18 months from Season 6 Invasion is Season 15 Feb 2025

[spare fox]

I personally think they're going to aim for a story-mode pvp

kind of like Junkenstein's Lab with set heroes - Talon vs OW

nothing is confirmed tho

[frail snow]

Mainly thought this up cos I cannot think of any other way they could ever release Talon Heavy Assault Mauga. Season 6 was Null Sector themed and gave us the new OR14 null sector skin for Orisa that looks "modernised" to look like new Null Sector. So if missions released with S15 it could be a Talon battlepass and season with a Talon Heavy Assault legendary or Mythic for Mauga

[spare fox]

it's possible

I def think they need more Talon characters

I'm hoping the next hero is another Talon support

[frail snow]

Same so we can finally have a 2-2-2 in Talon uniform.

Not even 1-2-2 is possible just because of no other Talon skin or OG Talon support

[spare fox]

idk what kind of character would be a Talon support other than another "evil scientist" a la Moira

I don't think Sanjay or Max are going to be heroes but I've been wrong before

[frail snow]

People want Maximilien to be a DPS because there's no omnic DPS, but he feels too "cowardly" to be DPS and he's always in a business suit

[cloud otter]

thanos never had good intentions lol

[cloud otter]

zen is basically perry the platypus without his hat

most dps character out there

[queen eagle]

Oh

Im dumb dumb

I thought he did lol

[cloud otter]

yk the movies where he did the snap and all? in the comics he just does it to impress lady death

which is so funny

i apolgise if this got offtopic its just hella funny

[queen eagle]

....

[cloud otter]

bro is an ultra simp 😭

[queen eagle]

I thought he was gigachad

[rare trail]

um

bastion

?

[spare fox]

I'd be surprised if the next hero is a DPS but it's possible

[queen eagle]

Maximilian

Throws money at people

[spare fox]

I'm spitballing theory here but if there was a "Maximilien" related hero, I think it would be someone who is working for him

[digital linden]

mei is pretty "cowardly" so it's not far fetched that max could be a dps

i could be wrong🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[fallow sonnet]

Yeah but in the movies he had good intentions

I saw a vid once where it said that he never punched anyone who he didn't think could take his punch

The only ppl he did punch were spidey when he felt the power of his kick

Cap when he held up his gauntlet

And hulk

All of which could've tanked it

And what's crazy is that some ppl think that cap died from the punch

But was brought back by the time stone when Thanos used it

[cloud otter]

yeah i dont disagree with that

just his original intention

was simp activities lol

[fallow sonnet]

Yeah he was way better in the movies

[queen eagle]

Ye

Mei is no fighter at all

[peak escarp]

Mei isn't a coward

when she's faced with an obstacle she works to overcome it

when Maximilien is faced with an obstacle he either runs from it or pays it off

[digital linden]

well then why not play into a gambling aspect with his kit

fits his character

[grave frost]

He throws gambling chips at people best concept

[spare fox]

yeah that's why I'm thinking the next hero or the hero related to Max will be a character that is paid to protect him

idk if that will be considered part of Talon or not but ig we'll see

[river folio]

1/5 chance you actually hit ur target

[cloud otter]

it could be his e ability

puts down a construct

that does some sort of gamble or chance mechanism

and either buffs u or de buffs them etc

[minor linden]

lore

lore

lore

[minor linden]

whu

[coarse scaffold]

Junker queen

[mild folio]

Who's next ow2 dps??

[peak escarp]

no idea

[mild folio]

I have a feeling its gonna be a crazy dps or idk...

[tame karma]

how come on dvas cat skins on the side it says Luna? Who is Luna?

[fallow mantle]

One of the skin designers had a cat named Luna, and put it on there as a reference.

Related, there's also Luna's Cabaret from Paris. Luna is an Omnic with cat ears.

From an article:

Luna’s cabaret was originally going to be a restaurant, until they were set-dressing the eatery and one of the artists pointed out that it looked like a cabaret. One of the concept artists also has a cat named Luna, which was the inspiration behind the name.

And the artist for the skin said this:

Hey Guys, Here is the Concept I did for Black Cat D.Va, I designed her based on my Cat Luna, she is super sweet! hope everyone like it !

Llia Yu on ArtStation, and the article is on dailystar.co.uk called 'La Ville Lumiere: How Blizzard's Overwatch Team Built Paris Map'

[worthy rose]

I unironically want a Jewish hero so bad

But it’s probably not happening

[peak escarp]

Tracer set up a menorah in Watchpoint Gibraltar in the recent Holiday comic

so it's possible someone already is

[coarse scaffold]

Junker queen

[worthy rose]

Wait what

The secret jew

[worthy rose]

Oh my god

I wonder who it is

My money is on zarya

[peak escarp]

that would be unexpected

[worthy rose]

She is Russian

Lots of Russian Jews

[past copper]

I still think Winston is Jewish 🤷‍♂️

[distant hamlet]

my great grandfather was a russian jew his entire family died in a pogrom raid

[past copper]

Hmm. Or could it be Pharah who's Jewish?

[distant hamlet]

if tracer’s setting it up it’s probably her yeah?

[worthy rose]

That would be funniest considering there voice actress

[worthy rose]

She might be just setting it up for someone

Blizzard is too cowardly to have someone be lesbian AND Jewish

They already were brave enough to have a latinx trans person

[queen eagle]

I see horse

The primary

Augmented Fusion Driver

[tame karma]

wrong channel mb

[shy dagger]

How, Ana is Egyptian and her father is Indigenous American

[past copper]

Are you seriously saying because of one’s own ethnicity that they can’t be Jewish?

[peak escarp]

it makes her less likely, yes

my guess is that it's for Juno - there was probably a Jew among the scientists on Mars who taught her their holiday traditions, and she wants it to be included here

[shy dagger]

Just that it makes the chances of her being Jewish really slim since neither of these two ethnic groups have majority Jewish populations

[distant hamlet]

I still think it makes the most sense for it to be Tracer

[spare fox]

Maybe they're all secretly Jewish and put up christmas decorations for the sake of the others whom they assume celebrate Christmas 🤡

In seriousness, it could be anyone 🤷

Maybe it's Winston and Dr. Winston was Jewish

[shy dagger]

Yeah this or Tracer are the most plausible

[spare fox]

Mercy and Zarya are also possible

[merry token]

I wonder if Vincent was also catholic

It would be nice to get some more general info on him, even if he’s not part of the current story

[spare fox]

IMO I don't think we will

Vincent was a ship that sailed, a different life

[shy dagger]

I don’t think we’ll ever see him again 😭

[spare fox]

yeah I mean he's married and has a family now and believes Jack is dead so I just don't see him being a part of the story ever again

[spare fox]

besides, we have plenty of playable characters that we still know very little about

[distant hamlet]

vincent becomes a playable character and talks about how much he loves his current husband

[tame karma]

Are pharah and Ana muslim?

[spare fox]

we don't know

[cosmic crest]

I think Ana could be?

It's safe to say Pharah isn't

[spare fox]

only confirmed religions are Jack is (or at least was) Catholic and Gabe is nonreligious

[distant hamlet]

i don’t think ana is just based on her career and all but you know i could be wrong

[spare fox]

it's always possible she's a "lapsed" muslim or just muslim by culture but she doesn't really practice it

[peak escarp]

she also has a tattoo, which is haram

[blazing fulcrum]

and soon, we'll have even more playable characters that we know very little about

[spare fox]

true true

though we don't have any confirmation of any new heroes yet - and we just doubled the roster with Hazard

BUT it's very likely we'll get some hints soon

I doubt they'll announce a slowdown of hero release at a time like this with MR thriving

[blazing fulcrum]

i'd like them to bring back the archives events

[spare fox]

everyone does :/

I imagine they need to do quite a bit of reworking for the Archives missions given how much so many of the heroes have changed

[blazing fulcrum]

just for cass probably

[spare fox]

not only do they need to redub McCree with "Cassidy" but his flashbang is kinda crucial for dealing with the talon assasin

[blazing fulcrum]

most of the heroes remained relatively the same

[peak escarp]

there were other ways of dealing with the assassin

just a melee would make her stop

[blazing fulcrum]

that and it's still a hinder so

it shoulld cancel her movements

[peak escarp]

new flashbang might be more useful in that case

[blazing fulcrum]

I hope they end up getting back on a PVE path but that just seems unlikely at this point

lore expansion has seemed really shallow at the moment

[peak escarp]

it's really hard to say at this point

[spare fox]

it's been better than it has in years

well no let me rephrase that

[blazing fulcrum]

since the content drought maybe

[peak escarp]

the mission designer just returned to T4

[spare fox]

it's been way worse in the past, it's actually kind of nice how it's been

[blazing fulcrum]

do you think that'd be for map design or do you think they're following through with another series of missions

[peak escarp]

dunno

[blazing fulcrum]

they're just adding new heroes at this point

[peak escarp]

we'll have to wait and see

[blazing fulcrum]

ive also felt it kind of disappointing with how they treated the oasis orb thing

[spare fox]

me, I think they're nottdoing specifically PvE missions like they did in the past. I think they're taking the story in another direction

[blazing fulcrum]

everyone wondered what the hell it was and then hazard came in, used it as some sort of fuel source and then that was that

[peak escarp]

but they did hint at new plot threads in the Christmas comic (Soldier with Illari, Zen with Symm and LW), so I do think they have more lore stuff in the works

[blazing fulcrum]

oh right

[spare fox]

AND the Max short story

[blazing fulcrum]

soldier was tracking illari was he not

[peak escarp]

yeah

[spare fox]

AND they've been adding little hero-specific map interactions like with Sombra on the Circuit Royale map

[peak escarp]

they're cooking something

we just have to be patient like we always have

[blazing fulcrum]

Hopefully

but being patient didn't really pay off when it came to the PVE mode in 2023 after the content drought and shitshow of a launch, did it?

[spare fox]

we did get the first missions though

and lots of other lore bits, and Declassified and New Blood iirc

[blazing fulcrum]

that was in July or August three months after they announced they'd be canceling the PVE and came with a lot of negative reception

[peak escarp]

we got a lot of new info via Winston's computer

including an updated timeline

[blazing fulcrum]

not to mention that they also said they'd be adding more PVE missions around mid 2024, well

look where we are now

[spare fox]

yeah it's safe to say 2023-24 were HUGE years for the lore, especially compared to ~2018-2021

where comparatively there was very little

[peak escarp]

when did they say this?

[blazing fulcrum]

one of the directors takes pretty sure

around the time or after the first three missions dropped

[peak escarp]

I don't recall them giving a timeline for future missions

only that the first batch would be in August 2023

[blazing fulcrum]

I'm fairly confident they highlighted a second batch in early to mid 2024

[spare fox]

no I think you're thinking of one of those "expose" pieces where they interviewed an anonymous ex-dev who said that they were originally planning on that before cancellation

so, massive grain of salt

and obviously we're not getting any more pve in 2024 or anytime relatively soon

I wonder when they get back from holiday break?

we will probably get a new update of their pipeline or roadmap shortly after then

[blazing fulcrum]

I'd hope so

but I'm just not too optimistic anymore regarding PVE, with what their clear focuses have been

[spare fox]

agreed, but I'm fairly confident they're not abandoning the story

[blazing fulcrum]

I don't think they'll abandon it entirely

but they've for certain shifted away significantly from what the original goal of OW2 was supposed to be

[twilit patrol]

Happy new year from EU and hopefully another great year for Overwatch lore

[shy dagger]

She also says “the eye of Horus watches over you” which makes I believe implies she’s a pagan

[shy dagger]

Probably not

[tropic dagger]

I vpn to NA , want to go play NA with one friend . But we will get our own server . I can only go NA myself , how can I solve this .

[old granite]

how impossible would an omnic/fungi hybrid be? like a special kind of intelligent fungi that fuses with an omnic body

[spare fox]

not very likely... I'd think a computer virus would be more likely

[viscid ledge]

This has nothing to do with lore. Ask elsewhere or support at Blizzard

[old granite]

well, i saw a reel of a mushroom moving a robot body on facebook (supposedly)... and since winston and ball are a thing I was like "could this happen in OW....?" xD

i think it would be funny / cool if it was possible, i haven't actually looked into Hammond's lore till now, the Horizon Lunar Colony sounds cool.

[spare fox]

if you like it then you should read Thoughtless Gods, it's was surprising
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/thoughtless-gods/

gives a different perspective on a funny lil guy from the moon in a hamster ball mech who hangs around with irradiated dollar store war boyz

[old granite]

oh no it's a Rocket situation? :[

[peak escarp]

yep

[spare fox]

I haven't seen GotG 3 but I think it is

[queen eagle]

Horse and rein have an interaction about null sector now

Thats cool

[prime turtle]

What is it about?

I knew an interaction of rein when he kills orisa

[queen eagle]

About honse beating null sector

Reins being nice to her

Like shes a family friend

https://youtube.com/shorts/4zLAvKuFKnw?si=GuwiV7izsNM9Hlzm

[prime turtle]

Ohh thats actually pretty cool

I don’t see a lot of rein and orisa interaction

[queen eagle]

"not quite as strong as i am"

Bro thought he was slick with it

[harsh ivy]

Hi I was wondering about the lore of the Doomfist gauntlet

So far we known that 3 of them existed right?

[peak escarp]

there have been three people who claimed the Doomfist title

but the gauntlet itself is one gauntlet, modified and added to by each holder

[harsh ivy]

ahhh I gottcha

yea because I was talking to some other lore enjoyers

One of them was saying when we firsts star the blizzard cinematic with the gauntlet

that the kid would be considred a doomfist

[peak escarp]

nobody really knows where the original Doomfist (Adhabu Ngumi) got it or who made it

[harsh ivy]

but I think so because it was just for a second

[harsh ivy]

ahh right

It's like saying if Batman got a hold of a green lantern ring and took it of he would be apart of the Lantern court

[peak escarp]

but after he died it was stolen from his grave by the second Doomfist (Akinjide Adeyemi), who was a local warlord

[harsh ivy]

ohhhh

[peak escarp]

then the third Doomfist - Akande Ogundimu, Akinjide's protege - killed him and took the fist

and rose to the leadership of Talon

the boy at the museum (Brian) is not considered a Doomfist because he never claimed the title

and he didn't even use the gauntlet properly

[warm nexus]

jobs bro jobs...

[queen orchid]

Guys who are the shimada?

Ik hanzo is part of it because of voicelines

But im guessing it includes Genji and Kiriko

[peak escarp]

the Shimada clan was a crime family that ruled the district of Tokyo that contains Hanamura/Hanaoka/Kanezaka

they were led by Sojiro Shimada with his wife Rumiko and his two sons Hanzo and Genji

but Rumiko left the family, and 14 years ago Sojiro was killed, leaving 26-year-old Hanzo as the new head of the family

under pressure from the clan elders, Hanzo attempted to force his wayward brother Genji into a leadership role in the family, but it led to a confrontation where Hanzo almost killed Genji (Overwatch had the family under surveillance and was fortunately there to rescue Genji and save his life)

disgusted with the life of a yakuza boss, Hanzo abandoned his family, and with Overwatch taking down their operations and no head to lead them, they were easy prey for the rival Hashimoto clan, who swooped in and claimed their territory

Kiriko's mother Asa Yamagami was the Shimada clan's swordmaster - she taught the boys how to fight

Kiriko's father Toshiro Yamagami was the Shimada clan's swordsmith - he forged weapons that made powerful energy projections in the form of the clan's guardian spirits, the dragons of the north and south winds

both Kiriko's mother and father were forced into service to the Hashimoto clan after the fall of the Shimada, with Kiriko's father being held captive in Hanamura castle

[past copper]

Happy New Year to 2025 everyone

[shy dagger]

I have a question about mercy.
During the height of Overwatch before and after the crisis, did she regularly go on missions or was she always confined to the lab? (I’m writing a fan fic so I want to be as lore accurate as possible)

[rare trail]

she was like a little baby during the height of the ciris

well not little baby

ike 13

its in her bio

[spare fox]

she was orphaned during the crisis, made friends with the Lindholms, volunteered at Overwatch during the golden age and joined up. She participated in the missions Uprising and Storm Rising

[shy dagger]

Didn’t she create revolutionary medical technology that was used during the crisis

[rare trail]

not during the crisis\

or uhhh

maybe? but not in overwatch

[shy dagger]

Didn’t Morrison hire her

[rare trail]

Ziegler had pioneered a breakthrough in the field of applied nanobiology at a young age.

qutoe from the

bio

but shes only 39 she didnt like join join overwatch till she was a bit older

like 17 iirc ? i dont really remember

[shy dagger]

Like she did not volunteer herself

[shy dagger]

Yea I think it was 17

[rare trail]

it might be in valkyrie

her short story

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/valkyrie/

[shy dagger]

Alright ty

[peak escarp]

Mercy was recruited a decade after the end of the omnic crisis

the omnic crisis ended 26 years ago, so Mercy was recruited 16 years ago

she's 39, so she was 23 when she was recruited

she started university to become a doctor at 17

[shy dagger]

How exactly old was she when the crisis ended

I’m guessing 13?

[peak escarp]

yes

she visited Torbjorn in the hospital as a child, when he lost his arm

[shy dagger]

Interesting

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/21574699/

I know that by now you have gotten news of my injuries in our latest mission. While the descriptions may sound terrible, the doctors are quite sure I'll make a full recovery. Even Angela came to visit me! On the matter of my arm, I promise to make it my first priority to construct a suitable prosthesis that will make everyone forget that it was ever gone. If only Angela's dreams of tissue regeneration were a reality! I told her she should be working harder!

apparently she had wanted to be a doctor since she was a child

[shy dagger]

Her combat medic skin in particular cause that’s the one I want to feature in my story that takes place after the crisis. Did she wear it only once during the archives mission or did she stick with it for a bit until she made her iconic Valkyrie suit?

[peak escarp]

that seems to be the gear she wore when not wearing the valkyrie suit

[shy dagger]

Oh like so when she’s not on missions?

[peak escarp]

I guess so

[shy dagger]

Then why she did she wear it in archives? I guess cause she was in a hurry and couldn’t put it in time?

[peak escarp]

because they wanted to sell the skin

[shy dagger]

Yeah that makes sense XD

[peak escarp]

not everything makes perfect in-universe sense

[shy dagger]

I guess

[peak escarp]

but also, it's seen as an Overwatch uniform, and Morrison wanted them to go in as Overwatch to show that they were still capable of good

[shy dagger]

I’m over complicating things probably

[peak escarp]

when she went on the Storm Rising mission a year later, they had ditched uniforms

[shy dagger]

Hmm interesting

[shy dagger]

Did overwatch’s reputation start going down after the crisis directly or some time after it?

[peak escarp]

Overwatch was founded during the crisis

it then had a sort of Golden Age for around 15 years

then it came under scrutiny and suspicion, and when Blackwatch got exposed during the Venice Incident (Retribution), things rapidly went downhill

Overwatch was active for about 20 years total

from when it was founded during the Omnic Crisis (28 years ago) and when it was disbanded by the Petras Act (7 years ago)

[shy dagger]

Chronologically, when did Blackwatch start doing shady stuff before they were exposed. Or were they exposed immediately?

[peak escarp]

they've been doing shady stuff since Blackwatch was formed, shortly after the end of the omnic crisis

it started with just Gabriel Reyes and Gerard Lacroix, but they started gathering new members

including teenage Cole Cassidy

[shy dagger]

And Moira too I presume

My eyes

[peak escarp]

Moira came much later

she was brought on shortly before the Venice Incident

[past copper]

So, year of the snake

Think someone will get a snake skin for the Lunar New Year?

[peak escarp]

it's pretty rare for anyone to get a skin that matches the year

[keen summit]

They really went "yknow what? Fuck publicity!!"

[keen summit]

Iirc in ow1 it happened a decent amount

[terse copper]

I imagine either Ashe or Cass would since they're from places that have snakes, but then again a lot of other places do so

[fresh rock]

☹️

[digital linden]

do we know if moira went on any other missions than venice?

[peak escarp]

the only one I remember was Bastion's skin in 2017 having a Rooster for Ganymede

[keen summit]

Orisa got a bull skin too

[peak escarp]

not in year of the cow

I thought it came before

[keen summit]

Oh yeah

Ade a mistake

It was earlier than 2017

Yeah then nvm

I was wrong, mb

[spare fox]

Yeah still prickly about Junkrat not getting one for year of the rat, and Roadhog not getting one for year of the hog

[distant hamlet]

i’m shocked roadhog has a walrus skin but not a pig skin (as far as i know)

[iron bolt]

I wish sigma a briliant man figured out he was being used by talon and leave them.

[shy dagger]

He’s mentally insane

[iron bolt]

Yh i wish he still firgured out that he is being used

[cosmic crest]

He's been radicalised. It's a real thing many people fall victim too. It's how real life terrorist groups gain members.

You don't have to be stupid to fall for it.

[vast swift]

do u think blizzard can actually bring together all the new pieces of lore they've sprinkled around since illari's release?

[spare fox]

I think they can

they won't do it quickly if they do lol

[cosmic crest]

They could do a lot of things

They won't though

[bitter sedge]

Wait, how does D.Va fit in her mech in canon?

[vast swift]

She laus down

[bitter sedge]

Oh

[vast swift]

also fun fact venture has little thrusters on their legs which i think makes them able to drill dash

[bitter sedge]

Cool.

[queen eagle]

Orisa mentioned

[distant hamlet]

i stand corrected

my bad

[peak escarp]

it's okay, that skin is from 2017

I don't expect everyone to know every skin

[past copper]

We could see a snake themed skin. Remember Widow has some and chances are one gets recolored for the Lunar New Year

[worthy rose]

What's up with Ramattras staff?

Ik he's a boss omnic but where did it come from

Is it just a standard part of the ravager kit?

[peak escarp]

I don't think it's part of the ravager kit

but we don't know where it comes from

[cosmic crest]

I don't know where the name "void accelerator" comes form. It's like an orb that produces nanites.

[vapid fractal]

Who wins? All of the Marvel Rivals playable characters vs all of Overwatchs?

[twilit patrol]

Marvel Rivals characters

[rare trail]

oh yeah 1000%

they have like gods and shit like lmao

[vapid fractal]

Somehow I forgot Hulk and Thor are in MR, my bad😭

[twilit patrol]

Yeah xd

Doctor Strange is also very strong

I was about to say Venom but he can get countered easily since he's weak against sound and fire

[vapid fractal]

Magneto is pretty strong to

Omega level mutant

[twilit patrol]

Also they're probably going to introduce new characters in the game

So I don't think Overwatch characters stand against them

[vapid fractal]

I was just thinking of characters like Sigma and was like "he can hold a black hole in his hand so maybe he could fight them"

[rare trail]

well

the one time he wsa around a black hole for loike a fraction of a second he got FUCKED up

[vapid fractal]

Oh

[bitter sedge]

No Overwatch wins, because Kiriko.

[twilit patrol]

Kiriko isn't enough

[iron bolt]

Winton win

[rare trail]

bro what

especially because theyre lile the comic versions

[bitter sedge]

its a meme, search on youtube, "because kiriko".

[rare trail]

guh

[noble jetty]

Hii ?

[surreal laurel]

Why does hanzo chop his brother into tiny pieces lol why not just make it easy and end it with a killshot

[spare fox]

because 1. Genji fought back and didn't make it easy, 2. in his heart he didn't really want to

[surreal laurel]

im guessing it would get pretty easy once u chop the dude's torso off his body lul

at least he left his manhood intact. hanzo is bro for that

[peak escarp]

we don't know the details of their fight, only that Genji was left unable to walk

I don't think they'll ever go into detail about his injuries

[small star]

have not played in while hows the lore did 76 kiss anymore dudes?

[peak escarp]

not recently

he's been too busy tracking down the conspiracy with Sombra

[viscid ledge]

What kinda first aid did a Genji receive to not die?

[wheat estuary]

Mercy

[viscid ledge]

So she was just nearby, in Japan.

first aid

[wheat estuary]

Yep

🥰

anything for her man she teleported there

[viscid ledge]

I believe

[outer torrent]

Luv ur pfp <333

[wheat estuary]

Ty ty I LOVE Kuvira

[past copper]

Overwatch was on a mission in Japan, probably scouting out the Shimada, until they happen upon a fatally wounded Genji and Mercy managed to save his life

That’s really the only logical way Overwatch could’ve found and saved Genji

[vapid tusk]

does sombra have carpal tunnel?

[safe raptor]

Wait, does she?

[plush lance]

dawg ow doesnt even have lore what is this channel

[spare fox]

Mercy just Guardian Angel'd to Genji from Switzerland

[peak escarp]

it's also possible that the Overwatch agents in Japan were able to stabilize him long enough to fly him to HQ where Mercy performed the necessary surgeries to save his life

it doesn't necessarily mean that Mercy was there in person

[spark tundra]

[hushed monolith]

do we have any info on the connection between soldier and illari yet?

[peak escarp]

not yet

[spare fox]

and the Lucky Man short story from Heroes Ascendant hasn't been released for everyone yet

I wonder if they're cooking something up to bridge that gap between the end of that story and how he is now in Peru

[vapid tusk]

Sombra: This carpal tunnel's slowing down my WPM.
Moira: I can fix it, and more.
Sombra: Uh, how about just taping it up?
Moira: Offer's on the table.

There’s a voiceline interaction apparently and I know voice lines aren’t canon so I’m just curious

[spare fox]

I treat it like if they are talking about a canon event in the past or know each other in canon then it's pretty much canon

[viscid ledge]

I can’t imagine Overwatch Agents entering the Shimada estate to assist a member of the family.

[spare fox]

but if the two characters haven't met then it's a "What if" but still canonically in-character

[peak escarp]

that's how it's described in Declassified

[viscid ledge]

I feel like Blizzard bullshits a lot of details

But ig that makes sense

[peak escarp]

why is it so hard to believe that Overwatch is watching the Shimada family?

the Shimada family were crime lords and Overwatch was an international peacekeeping force

[viscid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-anime-omg-oo-gif-25612139

[peak escarp]

Overwatch also did sting operations against the Deadlock Gang, which apparently became so much of a threat in only 2 years that Overwatch took them seriously

a gang founded by a bunch of teenagers

[spare fox]

it's literally Blizzard's story they can make up whatever they want lol

[cloud otter]

why were overwatch classified as criminals

[ionic summit]

Same way spider-man and the avengers were

[cloud otter]

by who were they

prosecuted

[ionic summit]

The petras act condenmed them illegal

[past copper]

They were deemed criminals by Director Petras after it was revealed that Blackwatch, (OW's secret branch) was conducting unsantioned missions

All under Strike-Commander Morrion's leadership. He and Reyes classified the missions as "vactions"

So really, if a global peacekeeping task force does something like this and their actions exposed, don't expect them to be treated as heroes in the eyes if the United Nations

[surreal laurel]

They need to bring back cinematics. and good ones

[twilit patrol]

I think Juno cinematic is good

[surreal laurel]

No surprise there 😛 😮

[ionic summit]

doubt that will happen anytime soon

[ionic summit]

am i the only one that thought that one was mid?

[twilit patrol]

Nah

I don’t think you’re alone

[ionic summit]

compared to the goats like Dragons and Honor And Glory it's weak asf and not even compared to those it's kinda meh

[surreal laurel]

I didn't even know there was a Juno cinematic until the previous comment, Blizzard has shat the bed on marketing this game

Either way, I think they need to bring back that old style of cinematics from Dragons

[ionic summit]

too much effort needed for that lol

[surreal laurel]

i mean they need to start putting in that effort again now unless they want to forfeit the game to MR

Marvel also has like 50 years of lore

[ionic summit]

i do hope they wake tf up because of rivals and start putting in some effort in their shit. i do hope that

[surreal laurel]

fr

Without the lore OW would just be a more polished concorde lol

[ionic summit]

lmao

i think i can confidentially say there hasn't been a character with decent lore since Ramattra. maybe Illari

[surreal laurel]

agreed 100%

i think venture's lore is that they exist

[ionic summit]

i like mauga's character too but that's where it ends. the rest of 'em. they got nothing

[surreal laurel]

Either way this is just a personal anecdote but I literally went to the store and bought a copy of OW because I absolutely dug the Dragons cinematic. I ended up maining Hanzo for years. I mean I grew out of that phase and now I play for different reasons but this is the only game where a cinematic made me physically go out and buy the game

[ionic summit]

Kiriko has 0 personality and nonsensical lore, queen is just queen of junkertown, nothing else, lifeweaver's lore puts me to sleep, mauga's lore is allright, venture's lore is the equivalent of a nothingburger and juno too is uninteresting

[surreal laurel]

Yeah but they set him up in OW1 with the bap release but the pure OW2 characters have been really lacklustre lore-wise

[ionic summit]

true

[surreal laurel]

Ikr. They had so much potential with Queen but looks like she just forgave them( hog and junk). No scope for tension between them anymore. Also I hated that cinematic, felt so contrived. They should have taken risks with JQ's Cinematic considering how much of a cult following she had in OW1 and her personality

[surreal laurel]

Kiriko'd character design has totally felt like pandering to me haha

[ionic summit]

queen in the cinematic and queen in-game feels like two different people. cinematic queen seemed nice and caring. all she wanted was the king dethroned. but in-game queen is just your average brutal musclewoman

[surreal laurel]

same with Kiriko too

[ionic summit]

yep. in the cinematic she's nice and caring. in-game she's bitchy and just a generic cute overconfident girl

[surreal laurel]

I hate how Blizzard wants to make every character wholesome. It's alright if some of their characters are kinda anti-heroish

I mean moira exists with what horrific shit she did to reaper

[digital star]

Definitely need a new villainous support, Illari might be one eventually but I don't know how long it'll take for Talon to fully corrupt her

[surreal laurel]

Doesn't she blame herself for the death of her people? I dont see her going the Talon way. She might go the lone wolf route considering she's with soldier

[digital star]

Ah yeah that could also be the case

I'm hoping they could add Sanjay Korpal as a utility support to contrast Moira, he could do what Symmetra was meant to be on launch

[surreal laurel]

That's actually a dope idea. We need more Vishkar characters

[digital star]

He's a Talon council member too, so you can finally make a full Talon team in role queue

[surreal laurel]

He is? Sick!

[ionic meadow]

how do I write in match chat just made a new acc

[surreal laurel]

press enter and type for teamchat. press tab to cycle to match chat.

[ionic summit]

if you made a new acc then you gotta reach level 10 and then press tab

[ionic meadow]

It says smth about level 2

[ionic summit]

yes, forgive me. level 2 it is

[ionic meadow]

but like what

do I gotta praise people or what

I forgot lol

havent played in so long

[ionic summit]

nah just keep playing until you level up lol

[ionic meadow]

aight

lowk Im crazy w cassidy

[ionic summit]

nice. if this is gonna keep going then might wanna move to a different chat. this one is more about ow lore

[ionic meadow]

oh aight bet thanks

oh damn I didnt even see

[ionic summit]

lol all good