she trained with them and like the art is wonky and all and the ages the artist was given probably werent accurate but its very clear that the shimadas are significantly older than her
#lore-discussion
rare trail
like she is very very young in main art ppl point to for her training with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsJaMzLltE at 1:14 you can see how tiny she is compared to the fox when later the fox is like kneeish height for her she is meant to be very very very young in the earlier art
and like compared to her mom she is like half her height like shes a toddler
golden oak
My point was that characters like junker queen, sojourn, Mauga were in the lore long before their release and it made sense to put them in game
Meanwhile kiriko came out of nowhere and she is somehow closely connected with shimada brothers which was never mentioned before her release
spare fox
My point was that characters like junker queen, sojourn, Mauga were in the lore ...
but there were clues to her existence with Kanezaka's release
idk I don't really think it's a big deal when characters come "out of nowhere" because they've been doing that since the beginning
characters like Lucio had a tenuous at best connection to the "main" cast and characters like Dva and Zarya had none for the longest time
golden oak
but there were clues to her existence with Kanezaka's release
Kanezaka released just year before ow2 release
golden oak
idk I don't really think it's a big deal when characters come "out of nowhere" b...
That’s not what I mean
My problem is how they tied her artificially to shimadas
Inserted her there
She feels like an OC rather than actual hero
spare fox
I get what you're saying but if you take a step back, then the same can be said about a lot of the heroes, both new and old really
golden oak
I wouldn’t say a lot
And most of them had their absence in the lore explained somehow
spare fox
I don't understand how Kiriko's isn't explained?
Her mother sent her to live with her grandmother in Kanezaka where it was safe after the Shimada house fell
merry mason
My problem is how they tied her artificially to shimadas
What would natural integration look like?
golden oak
What would natural integration look like?
When they were teased in the lore of the faction before being added or at least their absence was explained (like Echo’s)
Kiriko feels like if we now had a new hero who is a former member of original overwatch but they were never mentioned or teased
Like imagine if sojourn wasnt mentioned in the lore at all before release
It would be weird wouldn’t it
merry mason
Kiriko was mentioned before though, through the letter in kanezaka
acoustic ice
It was only today that I realized that Hazard is a purple burglar
peak escarp
Moira is a significant character who is central to Reaper's lore, but she wasn't mentioned at all before she was released
to the point where people accused Blizzard of retconning Reaper's backstory to fit her in
Ashe was a significant character in Cassidy's backstory who didn't appear at all in the lore before her introduction
several heroes have been added into the story essentially as retcons
Orisa, Ashe, Baptiste, Sigma, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Illari, Venture, Juno and Hazard all didn't exist in the lore before they got added
and Moira's only appearance was an indistinct image in one panel of a comic
spare fox
it's an ongoing narrative that is made to fit a live service game
some of it is going to feel "unplanned" and some of it IS narrative choices that weren't made initially from the get-go
peak escarp
not everything can be planned out or teased in advance
they set up Mauga in 2018 but struggled to make him a playable character until last year
plans don't always work out
I've been thinking about Hero of Numbani again
and while the dialogue for Lucio was lackluster (it was mostly just lines from the game), the writing for Doomfist was excellent
the perfect villain monologue
rotund sigil
is lucio and dva in couple or am i crazy ?
grand wedge
No. But the ship is nice
shy dagger
is lucio and dva in couple or am i crazy ?
No but they had one flirty line in ow1 that was probably removed
rotund sigil
No but they had one flirty line in ow1 that was probably removed
thats why its sucha popular ship ?
spare fox
I don't think it's that popular
rotund sigil
I don't think it's *that* popular
what other ship is more popular than this ?
cuz iont know any other
spare fox
I think pharmercy and mchanzo are the most popular, probably gency
shy dagger
thats why its sucha popular ship ?
Kinda-ish. It’s not that popular like say Gency, mainly cause the devs didn’t bother to explore their relationship any further with any interactions and/or lore.
also nowadays, the popular ships for Dva and Lucio are Dvattra and Boombox respectively
keen summit
thats why its sucha popular ship ?
Its popular cuz two in universe celebs
spare fox
the community also tends to couple heroes into ships based on age, with a couple exceptions
and at the time dva and lucio were basically the closest in age with each other
the community is also very weird about what age gaps are problematic and which aren't
keen summit
and at the time dva and lucio were basically the closest in age with each other
(at the start)
keen summit
the community is also very weird about what age gaps are problematic and which a...
Just like in any media
Peoppe are always weird with age
spare fox
(at the start)
yes I did clearly state "at the time" \
keen summit
yes I did clearly state "at the time" \
Mb missed that
I just wuickly read through
I mean
I was clarifying for others that time was the start ofcourse
rotund sigil
I think pharmercy and mchanzo are the most popular, probably gency
gency ?
rotund sigil
and at the time dva and lucio were basically the closest in age with each other
they aint the same age anymore ?
spare fox
they aint the same age anymore ?
at the time they were the two humans closest in age that weren't already part of mega-ships
as time went on, more heroes were added and there are now more heroes in that "age bracket" to pick from
at the time it was Dva, Junkrat, Lucio as the youngest and Junkrat was already part of the roadrat ship
(which is one of the ships where the age gap is inexplicably ignored)
rotund sigil
so the onyl reason theyre shipped is bc they were the only availables ?
rotund sigil
what ?
torpid grove
overwatch lore more like 💤
rotund sigil
i think its cool
spare fox
so the onyl reason theyre shipped is bc they were the only availables ?
sort of
torpid grove
i think its cool
than wait another 8 years xd
rotund sigil
than wait another 8 years xd
im trying but i rly cant understand you
spare fox
i think its cool
just ignore them
spare fox
they're shitposting, just ignore
spare fox
yes and I'm about to contact a mod so stop
torpid grove
owo
rotund sigil
so ur whole point was to say overwatch lore is shit am i right ?
rotund sigil
alr but why are u here ?
rotund sigil
ur so silly
torpid grove
its a discussion, is it not?
torpid grove
ill start to enjoy ow after gta 7 is released
rotund sigil
so next year ?
rotund sigil
oh
7
yh well have to wait for that
so do u hate ow in general or just the lore ?
torpid grove
no i think the game is shit team fortress is better
torpid grove
call of duty get more plays by copying and pasting titles ow 2,,, ehhhh
rotund sigil
tf is a dead game
rotund sigil
what do i care bout marvel rivals plyer count ?
torpid grove
rotund sigil
no i think the game is shit team fortress is better
and so why are u here
rotund sigil
then just say that
spare fox
alright, getting off topic here
rotund sigil
and dont come in this server
rotund sigil
💀
torpid grove
ok bye
torpid grove
but fr tho why do u hate the game ?
lucio haircut pisses me off
rotund sigil
she ate too many donuts i think
spare fox
!!loreonly
twilit nacelleBOT
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
rotund sigil
to this server**
the fuck is atht
torpid grove
more lore than bilzzard
rotund sigil
fr
rotund sigil
fr
rotund sigil
bros a dominant
visual gyro
worthy rose
If they wanted to talk bad ab the game there's like 50 ppl in ow serious that would gladly do so 😭
coarse scaffold
Junker queen
queen eagle
Christmas orisa
drifting meadow
If they wanted to talk bad ab the game there's like 50 ppl in ow serious that wo...
Deserved
fast crow
Lf duo for marvel rivals 18+, just doing qp for now
shy dagger
!!loreonly
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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
golden oak
Isnt numbani like the best place for Omnics in the world? Why was ram attacking them
rare trail
idk abt in the world but i think its omnic friendly
golden oak
idk abt in the world but i think its omnic friendly
Definitely one of the best places
For Omnics
worthy rose
Lf duo for marvel rivals 18+, just doing qp for now
Ur bad at that game anyway please use appropriate channels or even an appropriate server
fast crow
Ur bad at that game anyway please use appropriate channels or even an appropriat...
Bros mad over a discord comment LMAOOO
Imagine using “ur bad” as an insult on ow 😭 bros done
worthy rose
Idk mayb use the right channels like common sense 😭🙏
fast crow
And why do you care? Is this convo relevant?? 😂 go ahead and @yourself and tell yourself to stay on topic
worthy rose
I'm js saying to use the right channels why r u pressed
grave frost
Bro what he’s telling you to follow the rules and you’re making fun of him for not following the rules
grave frost
And your job is to use the right channels, and your not doing yours either
fast crow
No I don’t have a job on discord
worthy rose
Regardless it's literally common sense using the right channels 😭
fast crow
But ok I’ll stop since you asked nicely @grave frost
grave frost
Thank you
spare fox
Isnt numbani like the best place for Omnics in the world? Why was ram attacking ...
so what we DO know for sure is that Ramattra is not invading and attacking as revenge on humanity's treatment of omnics, but rather it seems like his goal is to get those helmets on as many omnics as possible - for what reason we don't know
so if Numbani is super omnic-friendly, then there are a lot of omnics there for the helmetting
stuck dune
guys gimme the gist of the lore. 5 sentences max
opaque tundra
Robot Anubis controls all robots. Robots attack humanity.
Overwatch beats up robots.
Robot becomes sentient and gives every other robot sentience.
Overwatch does shady stuff and gets shut down.
New robots attack humanity.
Overwatch comes back to beat up new robots.
There’s a lot more that’s much more interesting but unfortunately you have to read more than 6 sentences
shy dagger
Does anyone know where I can find or read lore information about Mercy? I know there some like her notes but idk where to find them
spare fox
Does anyone know where I can find or read lore information about Mercy? I know t...
check the pins on this channel
shy dagger
check the pins on this channel
Alright ty
vapid tusk
hold on so does Hazard hate Overwatch?
spare fox
hold on so does Hazard hate Overwatch?
yup
shy dagger
https://fxtwitter.com/diverwizard/status/1868027260139143612?s=19
Who’s “Miss Chase”?
shy dagger
Oh so he’s either going to be an Npc in a new event where you have to protect him or he’s simply leftover content left in the files
cosmic crest
The latter sounds more likely, unfortunately
peak escarp
it's for a shop event, maybe you have to buy upgrades
shy dagger
it's for a shop event, maybe you have to buy upgrades
Sounds plausible that he’s just a pit stop in an event mode, but then how do you explain the lines where he’s begging for healing, thanks you for healing, and warns you
hushed jetty
every hero gets those pve lines to be fair
it is entirely possible that he could be playable, in which case this list is simply missing many of the vital pvp lines
since there is a monaco map, either max is gonna be a hero or a new pve event will take place At Monaco
peak escarp
Sounds plausible that he’s just a pit stop in an event mode, but then how do you...
he's an NPC you have to escort who can take damage and get healed (pls no I hate escort missions)
shy dagger
Ah that sounds more plausible
shy dagger
it is entirely possible that he could be playable, in which case this list is si...
True, and honestly I don’t want him as a new hero😭
He fits more being the bad guy behind the chair, James Bond like villain than an actual fighter
past copper
You know the funny thing about this collab?
People are mixed about it, but some are actually complaining about Sokka not being included
But whatever the case, I don’t see this collab failing to make more money and 🤞 potentially see story missions again next year
Or at least some form of PvE
merry token
I like that they went with Zuko’s hairstyle for Genji instead of trying to make Genji’s slickback work like with the Genos skin
queen eagle
WHO CARES, ORISA APPA IS HERE
spare fox
Why
Hazard is anti-system. He dislikes and fights against any kind of organized authority - Overwatch, Talon, Helix, Oasis
peak escarp
also Overwatch is directly responsible for him being buried in rubble for 2 days and becoming a triple amputee
and his father's death, but Findlay didn't have a great relationship with him so meh
merry mason
Where is Hazard in his menu screen splash art? It just looks like rubble
spare fox
thoughts on the newfound max lines fellas???
hmm those are definitely thought-provoking. I hope those are going to be used and aren't just being thrown out
like Doc (I think) was saying, they sound like trader or shop voicelines in a wave-mode
I wonder if they're taking some cues from the Killing Floor pve? It'd be funny because the trader is french in that too lol
I do wonder if it's related to Jorge Murillo and his "Soon ???????" and appearance at Blizzard campus:
https://x.com/TheHornetsFury/status/1866972232653975818?s=19
Twitter
merry mason
What does Jorge Murillo do that would be related to this.
vapid tusk
Hazard is anti-system. He dislikes and fights against any kind of organized auth...
would you say he's the perfect neutral party
(if my question makes sense)
spare fox
but apparently he's back
we can hope, maybe? we don't know what he's doing there or if he's just teasing
unless there's been something I missed
spare fox
would you say he's the perfect neutral party
I wouldn't say he's neutral since he's against all the factions more or less
candid helm
Max is introduced ????????
grand wedge
No?
twilit patrol
I've seen a tweet talking about it
It’s fake
spare fox
yeah PSA: Potnoodle is just a satire OW news account. It's for humor, basically like an Onion-ized version of Cavalry
they use a similar if not identical interfact to Cavalry so it is an easy mistake to make
fallow mantle
Where is Hazard in his menu screen splash art? It just looks like rubble
No clue, might be Morocco? But yeah Idk
red token
People are mixed about it, but some are actually complaining about Sokka not bei...
I am one of the people complaining 😭 I dont even know how he'd fit in honestly but it sucks that there's a million atla collabs (fortnite, smite, etc.) but they always leave out one of the MAIN CHARACTERS who was INTEGRAL to the plot. but No. lets throw in his GIRLFRIEND?? WHO'S IN LIKE 5 EPISODES EVER?? because kiriko doesnt have enough skins as it is I guess..
ancient epoch
balls
pseudo rapids
buoyant iron
I’m new to overwatch. Teach me the lore.
peak escarp
all the lore is available in the pins on this channel
if you want a quick summary, watch this
https://youtu.be/QbMbZjhSJqo
thin aspen
thoughts on Rein Lore?
grave frost
Kinda boring, but good
thin aspen
Kinda boring, but good
whos is your favorite? I'm kinda outdated on the new characters
twilit patrol
thoughts on Rein Lore?
Best lore
grave frost
I like Kiriko’s even tho it’s in an awkward spot
grave frost
How they tied her in to the lore is probably one of the better connections they’ve made
thin aspen
I like Kiriko’s even tho it’s in an awkward spot
I'll have to look into their lore
grave frost
Rein has kind of a basic backstory, he was mentored by a father figure who sacrificed himself for him so now he feels he needs to prove himself
Fits into a lot of different characters from different franchises
thin aspen
Fits into a lot of different characters from different franchises
Thats fair, but he's one of the best originals ya know?
grave frost
I liek Genjis more because I’m obsessed with Japan/ medieval stuff and Genji checks those boxes
His lore is actually heat
thin aspen
I feel that, Genji's lore is definitely one of the tops for me as well
grave frost
What’s mercy’s lore? I was gonna trash talk it but then realized I don’t k ow it
Eh kinda mid
Parents died that’s basically it
thin aspen
What’s mercy’s lore? I was gonna trash talk it but then realized I don’t k ow it
I like it, I've read the short story
shy dagger
What’s mercy’s lore? I was gonna trash talk it but then realized I don’t k ow it
Her parents died during the crisis, she was raised in the hospital as an orphan, became a doctor and made some revolutionary advances in science that Overwatch hired her, she loved it since it was a chance to save people as she desired but found that her tech was consistently stolen by her allies and enemies alike in ways she did not approve of
She also saves Genji during her time in Overwatch
spare fox
we don't know where Ramattra is/was during the Invasion, do we?
re: his cagey response to Orisa noting he wasn't fighting his own battle in Numbani
keen summit
Maximilien voicelines seem to imply pve
azure flint
https://x.com/diverwizard/status/1868027260139143612
what miner is talking abt btw
Twitter
these are max voice lines found in the files to be used for smth as well as this render being found
keen summit
They dont seem like hero voicelines soecifically
They seem more like well, pve or sum
I think, we might be getting the last few missions they had almost finished
spare fox
these are max voice lines found in the files to be used for smth as well as this...
where is that render from?
the lines might not be from a pve thing they have going
it could be from one of those new modes that they like to try out
and since it seems to be about "buying" stuff, maybe it's like another Junkenstein's Lab
keen summit
and since it seems to be about "buying" stuff, maybe it's like another Junkenste...
Theres a part two
Were it has stuff likr
"Im down"
"I need a revive"
Twitter
spare fox
my point still stands
azure flint
gonna be pushing max this time instead of a payload
spare fox
yes I've heard both parts
ionic summit
we don't know *where* Ramattra is/was during the Invasion, do we?
dude is everywhere by the look of it
keen summit
my point still stands
It could be pve but with a shop for that lvl
keen summit
we don't know *where* Ramattra is/was during the Invasion, do we?
We didnt
And we still dont
spare fox
it could be something like a pushbot or escort pvp but with a shop kind of mode
keen summit
In fact we had no reason to believe he went out of his base
keen summit
it could be something like a pushbot or escort pvp but with a shop kind of mode
Could be, but then the GET TO COVER lines feel odd
azure flint
lemme listen to these lines again
keen summit
I think it is for the pve they had, cuz well we saw his mission in the first trailer
spare fox
Could be, but then the GET TO COVER lines feel odd
not really, it could be for when the enemy team ults
it could be for more pve but it's good to keep an open mind
keen summit
not really, it could be for when the enemy team ults
Its also noteable how he has multiple likes specifically for lucio
*most likely
But also for widow
So it might be a pvp event where you help max escape talon?
To follow up on pocket king
But also the line thankfull for lacroixs failure
azure flint
gonna make some notes
azure flint
- the first few voice lines seem to imply maximilien is selling something to you
- other lines have max refer to you as if you were widow, doom, soj or "a friend" of doom
- "your talents span beyond healing" talking to mercy?
- mentions widow failing at something
- multiple "behind you" and "revive me" voice lines
- multiple "thanks" voice lines
- multiple voice lines of max reacting to someone doing something
- mentions escaping something and implies we're helping in some way
as well as a voice line for lucio
spare fox
yeah I'm just wondering, with the success of Junkenstein's Lab if they are going to continue to story but not in PvE but rather in a PvP way, where one team is Talon and the other is OW (similar to Starwatch)
only not exactly fighting over a point or payload but rather escorting/keeping alive Max in a capture the flag kind of way and in between rounds you can get upgrades from him (like Junkenstein's Lab)
keen summit
- the first few voice lines seem to imply maximilien is selling something to you...
And lines for lucio and zen it seems
"no wonder that ramattra is so fond of you"
azure flint
only not exactly fighting over a point or payload but rather escorting/keeping a...
sounds cool ngl
keen summit
I think it might be, but it might be a short mission for getting max out of talon
Cus..
He wants out
azure flint
there's also this but the bold text may just be a guess
or just straight up lying lol
keen summit
Ehh
I hope its not that
But the second group doesnt fot it
He has no reason to say BEHIND YOU AGENT for a shop
azure flint
true
the render is also questionable but i could see it being a bg for an ability upgrades menu
spare fox
that's why I think it's some kind of capture-the-flag-esque escort mission, OW vs Talon
and between rounds or checkpoints, you "buy" powerups
if it IS that (and I'm just guessing ofc) then someone at T4 was cooking bc it gives us the story everyone's been wanting combined with some of the more popular gamemodes of late
keen summit
and between rounds or checkpoints, you "buy" powerups
I think though that itll as i said be about getting him out of talon
azure flint
trade max for illari
spare fox
trade max for illari
No, her story will come in time I'm sure
keen summit
Ill say
If they find new zen lines
Or sombra ones
I think itll be more likely for pve
spare fox
what makes you say that?
again, I am not arguing with you, just presenting additional theories
it'd be pretty cool if we got more PvE
but ultimately I just want more story
keen summit
but ultimately I just want more story
Same
All im saying is that its noteworthy that one of the pve parts that stuff was done for
Was about Maximilien
Where he said "i cant do this.."
However, it might also be that they add the entire voice pack to it, including well, whats left behind
spare fox
of course, and this is not to be negative but to prevent hopes from getting too high: it could actually be nothing and they are just leftover lines from the PvE missions that were cancelled and they accidentally got loaded into the game with this patch
a possibility, albeit a sad one...
azure flint
worst case scenario
spare fox
BUT they did just release that Max short story
if they weren't going to do anything at all they could have just not released that.. so a point in the favor of "it's something" anyway
candid helm
they use a similar if not identical interfact to Cavalry so it is an easy mistak...
I was gonna be happy cuz i wanted a new council member to be playable ._.
peak escarp
I'd rather have Sanjay
spare fox
Idk neither Sanjay nor Max seem the type to "get their hands dirty" so to speak with combat, but you never know
grand wedge
If they do, they must really plan the storyline for them to become fighters
hushed jetty
id see sanjay as a more likely fighter than max but if anyone could find a way to make max make sense, jts blizzard
rare trail
i loveeee max
fallow mantle
I just love Max's design, voice, and general character. I would like to see him come to the game one day, certainly, but I also equally want him to remain as just a figure in the lore. Max and Emre are the only two remaining lore characters I'd like to be playable.
normal fjord
I just love Max's design, voice, and general character. I would like to see him ...
On skibidi
lean lodge
like 2 days I think
worthy rose
wait, so lore wise kiriko, genji and Hanzo like trained together right? but like age wise that don't make sense...
or am I stupid
cuz kiriko is 21 genji is like end 30s and hanzos 40
so that would make her like a baby when they were training?
golden oak
wait, so lore wise kiriko, genji and Hanzo like trained together right? but like...
Yeah they messed up kiris age
But that’s old news now
grand wedge
so that would make her like a baby when they were training?
yeah, a 4 y/o training with a 20 and 23 y/o to be exact
worthy rose
But that’s old news now
oh I didn't know that, I've only been playing like a good 2 weeks
so I'm a little behind
keen summit
If they do, they must really plan the storyline for them to become fighters
Sanjay could work
keen summit
id see sanjay as a more likely fighter than max but if anyone could find a way t...
As ive said many times, lobg range controlled mech, he controls a mech in one of those race pods, like the cars that are remote controlled too
peak escarp
so that would make her like a baby when they were training?
yes
(her listed age is incorrect - she should be 26, not 21)
cloud otter
Funny how none of them end up using a sword
astral jetty
Genji does ?
spare fox
Hanzo did use a sword until he swore it off
rare trail
wait, so lore wise kiriko, genji and Hanzo like trained together right? but like...
its complicated
kiri is always depicted as significantly younger than genji and hanzo
worthy rose
its complicated
deffo sounds it
warped girder
I just assume they didn’t train together now
I think of it as Hanzo and genji were around almost like older siblings when she began her training
Hanzo being distant, and genji always looking over her
peak escarp
that's pretty much how it was
elfin bane
Oh idk it was a mess up
Like that she’s supposed to be 26 I mean
I just thought blizz didn’t think it through 💀
peak escarp
the text in her bio says she was 12 when Sojiro Shimada was assinated
in "Where Honor Lives", Sojiro's death was confirmed to be 14 years ago
12 + 14 = 26
peak escarp
idk why Blizzard hasn't fixed it
elfin bane
Oh I just realized your name is lore warlord
peak escarp
they've fixed other ages that were incorrect
elfin bane
Checks out lmao
elfin bane
idk why Blizzard hasn't fixed it
O
Yea
Strange
Maybe 21 is more marketable or whatever
lol
peak escarp
then they should fix the text in her bio to say she was 7 when Sojiro died
either way, they need to fix something
her being 26 makes more sense
peak escarp
when they updated the bios for OW2, Sojourn's age was listed as 47 - but that would have made her 18 when the omnic crisis broke out, with 4 years of military service already (and her twin sister would have had her daughter at the age of 14)
peak escarp
so Sojourn's age was changed to 51, which makes a lot more sense - she was 23 when the crisis broke out and joined the military at 19 (and her twin sister had her daughter at 18)
elfin bane
when they updated the bios for OW2, Sojourn's age was listed as 47 - but that wo...
Damn bruh you the lore a lot
queen eagle
so Sojourn's age was changed to 51, which makes a lot more sense - she was 23 wh...
Yo she's older than hog
peak escarp
they don't call me the Lore Warlord for nothing
peak escarp
Yo she's older than hog
yep
elfin bane
Dang wait 51 is actually crazy you right
peak escarp
Roadhog is the same age as Moira
elfin bane
WAHT
peak escarp
they're both 50
queen eagle
Dooms 47
elfin bane
Wow everyone’s old
elfin bane
How old is sombra
queen eagle
Sig 64
queen eagle
How old is sombra
28 prob
peak escarp
Sombra is 32
queen eagle
Zens the oldest omnic at 33
elfin bane
Wow
elfin bane
I see
peak escarp
peak escarp
she's the youngest human hero
elfin bane
O
peak escarp
youngest overall is Orisa, who is only 1 year old
queen eagle
Ironic how the biggest clanker by far is young
peak escarp
she was built after Winston sent out his recall
elfin bane
O really ?
I thought she would have been built before that
What’s her lore btw
Is she just a modified or15
ALSO
queen eagle
The junies
queen eagle
Shes sorta enemies with ram and doom
elfin bane
WHICH IS WHERE ORISA COMES FROM
queen eagle
Orisa is a large African cop
elfin bane
Orisa cool
peak escarp
Orisa was made by child genius Efi Oladele after she won the Adawe Genius Grant and wanted to make a new defender for Numbani
queen eagle
Didnt junies give her the grant money?
queen eagle
Orisa hates the junies
elfin bane
Yea cuz he beat thoses old robots up
queen eagle
I read the novel
peak escarp
because Efi was inspired to create a new protector after witnessing Doomfist's attack on the airport
and also Doomfist is the one who nominated Efi for the grant
elfin bane
Orisa hates the junies
Who are the junies
elfin bane
and also Doomfist is the one who nominated Efi for the grant
Wait really??!
queen eagle
Orisa also chased doom out of her city
queen eagle
Who are the junies
Small robotic beetles
With some of orisas powers
Like her old shield
elfin bane
and also Doomfist is the one who nominated Efi for the grant
Because he wanted a good fight or something dum like that
elfin bane
Small robotic beetles
O I see
peak escarp
Wait really??!
the number in the Anonymous username is the same as Doomfist's prison cell
queen eagle
She called the null sector robots "insects"
And shes pretty much an enemy to ram
Ram likes her but orisa hates him
queen eagle
Junie
These critters help orisa defend numbani
They're everywhere on the map
They're sorta like orisas troops
Twitter
peak escarp
they look different than I imagined
peak escarp
I was picturing more spider-like
if any of you haven't read the Overwatch novels, I highly reccomend them
and they all have an audiobook version read by the VAs
peak escarp
Hero of Numbani is read by Cherelle Skeete (voice of Orisa)
Deadlock Rebels is read by Jen Hale (voice of Ashe)
Overwatch 2: Sojourn is read by Cherise Bopthe (voice of Sojourn)
the short stories and comics are also good
queen eagle
Hero of Numbani is read by Cherelle Skeete (voice of Orisa)
Deadlock Rebels is r...
I thought it said "overwatch 2: sojourn is dead"💀
peak escarp
lol
queen eagle
Horse is also pretty strong
And looks much bigger here than ingame
Not to mention
WHY DOES SHE HAVE 2 HANDS HERE?
peak escarp
because her gun arm can be swapped out for a normal arm
queen eagle
Im stupid
elfin bane
lol
peak escarp
my favourite part of Hero of Numbani is when Efi tries to buy weapons on the black market and gets ripped off
queen eagle
Orisa wouldn't take that lightly💀
peak escarp
and remember, Efi is an 11 year old girl
queen eagle
Yeah
Whats a lil girl doing in the black market
Im surprised a place like numbani would have black markets
peak escarp
her guardian robot needed a weapon
queen eagle
Wait so
Does numbani have cops or anything?
Or does orisa do all the heavy lifting?
peak escarp
the OR15s were part of Numbani's defense, but Doomfist wrecked them
peak escarp
peak escarp
How many were there?
the entire line was decommissioned after Doomfist's attack, and at least 40 still functional robots were sold at auction
there were a few that were too damaged to be sold - including the one that Efi bought
queen eagle
like the Null Sector bots
Oh thats why orisa called them insects
peak escarp
the OR15 that Efi bought was the one Doomfist smashed into the wall of the airport
peak escarp
also the "magenta woman" that appears at the end is Sombra
queen eagle
With the broken or-15s
queen eagle
for a long time in OW1 it looked like this
Oh...
So when doom attacked numbani the 2nd time
Orisa and lucio wrecked him?
peak escarp
this is why Orisa is considered 2nd strongest among the roster
peak escarp
Winston is strongest
queen eagle
Oh
peak escarp
partially because he's got plot armor
queen eagle
Scientist plot armour
peak escarp
Sigma is in a weird spot - he's potentially stronger, but we haven't seen what he can do
queen eagle
How about sigma?
peak escarp
we don't know the scope of his powers or how much control he has over it
Symmetra, Illari and Lifeweaver are in a similar situation
peak escarp
the younger boy is Timmy, the older boy is Brian
queen eagle
Ofc hes called timmy
peak escarp
"They say he could level a skyscraper."
sounds like an urban legend and probably isn't true
peak escarp
Ana is a badass
peak escarp
nope, just a badass
queen eagle
Like soldier 76
queen eagle
nope, just a badass
Aight
peak escarp
Ana's only enhancement was her cybernetic eye
peak escarp
in universe, the media called her a "token pick" for the Overwatch team, since she was the only woman of the original 5
queen eagle
Token pick?
peak escarp
Mercy is the weakest ow member
her Valkyrie suit does give her superhuman strength
peak escarp
Token pick?
picked because she was a woman, not because she was skilled
queen eagle
Yeah
peak escarp
him and Reaper were part of the same program
queen eagle
No way a normal guy can throw someone that easily
In his cinematic trailer
He straight up threw a guy
peak escarp
yep
elfin bane
I think reins just a guy
peak escarp
he was an officer in the German Crusaders, a unit of soldiers in power armor
queen eagle
Reins a huge guy
queen eagle
Zarya can lift 512 kg
queen eagle
Woah
Yeah shes the female world record weight lifter
No cybernetics or drugs i think
elfin bane
Damn
peak escarp
she's just big
queen eagle
An Aussie lady thats 7 feet tall
peak escarp
maybe a little bit of radiation
queen eagle
Hog?
elfin bane
Mmmmm radiation 🤤
peak escarp
the gas he breathes is supposed to counteract radiation sickness
queen eagle
the gas he breathes is supposed to counteract radiation sickness
Oh really
The first spawnroom in junker town aka his house
There is a dispenser with vapes
peak escarp
yep
queen eagle
And theres that yellow healing stuff
peak escarp
that's how he refills them
peak escarp
literal war machine
queen eagle
Probably good at throwing hands
plush ferry
@spark cargo
elfin bane
Gosh bastion is so cool
peak escarp
one of the few heroes on the roster who probably hasn't killed anyone
elfin bane
O
queen eagle
His minigun chopped trees faster than a lumberjack after syrup
elfin bane
one of the few heroes on the roster who probably hasn't killed anyone
I thought he would have before he gained consciousness
queen eagle
one of the few heroes on the roster who probably hasn't killed anyone
Has orisa killed?
elfin bane
I mean
peak escarp
when Bastion's drop pod landed, he didn't activate - you can see the shell of the drop pod in his short
peak escarp
Has orisa killed?
no
queen eagle
She seems to have no empathy for villains
elfin bane
While he was controlled by Anubis
peak escarp
we don't know about Zen's past
peak escarp
but after he was Awakened, Ramattra found him and brought him to the Shambali
queen eagle
Rams a pretty big guy
elfin bane
Did ram give himself the mods
peak escarp
Zenyatta also trained Genji
queen eagle
Zenyatta also trained Genji
People here say zens just his mind teacher
But genji sometimes says shit like "master you did not have to go easy on me"
peak escarp
they probably did spar
spare fox
https://fxtwitter.com/TheHornetsFury/status/1869172304560922680
HYPE
golden oak
https://fxtwitter.com/TheHornetsFury/status/1869172304560922680
Didn’t new Saints row flop really hard? 💀💀
queen eagle
Orisa back in the day was different
Same as torb
Orisa went from a goofy new to the world unformed minded omnic to a friendly yet savage and intimidating horse
Torb went from constantly grumpy openly racist towards omnics to less grumpy and has an omnic son
merry mason
Didn’t new Saints row flop really hard? 💀💀
4/5 we’ll take it
ionic summit
something i always questioned. doomfist wants to make humanity stronger through conflict yet he has a voice line saying "i am not your savior". don't those 2 contradict eachother?
spare fox
something i always questioned. doomfist wants to make humanity stronger through ...
the first Doomfist was "The Savior" he wants to differentiate himself from his predecessor
ionic summit
the first Doomfist was "The Savior" he wants to differentiate himself from his p...
sure but if he really wants to make humanity stronger then wouldn't that make him a savior?
spare fox
not in the same way
I think he might see the OG Doomfist, The Savior, as someone who was doing humanity's job for them by destroying the omnic hordes and protecting Nigeria
rather than letting the people learn to do it themselves
and letting the weak people/societies that couldn't die out
mystic estuary
jeff the shark lore?
peak escarp
wrong game
peak escarp
I learnt about Anubis
Anubis was a god program put in charge of maintaining and protecting the environment... and it decided that the best way to do that was to destroy all humans
hushed jetty
i desperately need more god ai lore. im obsessrd
did they havr personalities?? did they speak?? they were often personified by people so how did they characterize each ai???
can they PLEASE reactivate chernobog for the love of god
grand wedge
did they havr personalities?? did they speak?? they were often personified by pe...
did you read Declassified? Because Macaria and Chernobog kinda cared for humans
grand wedge
i wonder if.. the "eye" is some god program...
lament fractal
Question
Y’all ever think LW will ever consider or join Overwatch
Like the faction
queen eagle
did they havr personalities?? did they speak?? they were often personified by pe...
Anubis has no emotion
queen eagle
Anubis was a god program put in charge of maintaining and protecting the environ...
God program?
hushed jetty
Anubis has no emotion
we dont know that. if they were so advanced i could imagine them at least Acting in a personified way, like echo perhaps
queen eagle
Ig
cosmic crest
Is there any lore to tracers girlfriend?
There was 5 issue comic series some years ago about Tracer in London. This would of been prime opportunity to give Emily some development.
Instead they gave her fuck all.
In fact, they didn't really develop anything in that series
molten vale
Aw oke
cosmic crest
It was a massive disappointment
molten vale
Thank you for ur response :D
tranquil hatch
Given Tracer’s chronal accelerator stabilizes her temporal displacement, how does the mechanical design of her pulse pistols achieve such high fire rates without overheating, considering the lack of visible heat dissipation systems?
elfin bane
Idk probbay has a little spot for some ice cubes or smth
merry mason
Given Tracer’s chronal accelerator stabilizes her temporal displacement, how doe...
What does one have to do with the other? The preface about the coronal accelerator seems like a non-sequitur to me.
worthy rose
Possibly to see if the chronal accelerator mitigates heat via time blips
Well the pulse pistols
Yk
spare fox
It's just soft sci-fi with a little hard sci-fi sprinkled for crunchiness. They got people to mars and genetically engineered apes on the moon, I'm sure they figured out how to prevent overheating on a pulse rifle
humble wing
i love beating it to mercy
elfin bane
Um
elfin bane
Ight
queen eagle
fallow mantle
Pre surgery Mauga
spare fox
made him into a DPS
peak escarp
put it back
spare fox
like this you have to imagine him with the same voice as the mini-mauga from April Fools patch
warped girder
Bro needed the gains
Cause how is he buff and still look weird 😭
Is it his head?
inland hornet
is venture canonly part of overwatch? because last time they were purely neutral
grand wedge
is venture canonly part of overwatch? because last time they were purely neutral
No
Canonically, Juno and Orisa (and Efi) are the last one to have joined new Overwatch
past copper
Venture has no connection to Overwatch and as it stands rn... we don't know what part they'll play in the lore
But considering how Venture stopped Mauga n Talon, perhaps a chance at working with Overwatch, but not joining
spare fox
viscid ledge
grand wedge
i'd put Ana in the likely to join OW since the short story where she parted ways with Jack
in the "case can be made either way" more like
cosmic crest
I'd put Sombra in the second tier
inland hornet
same
shy dagger
I'd put Sombra in the second tier
Sombra is a wildcard, she’ll only join if she sees it can benefit her interests, or if she gets a redemption arc
spare fox
I'd put Sombra in the second tier
For now she's affiliated w Talon
oblique cradle
venture probably makes skibbidy toilet jokes
peak escarp
we don't know JQ's official height
wait no
I think it was mentioned in A Friendly Rivalry
the game scale isn't 100% accurate
queen eagle
Id assume horse is bigger in lore
golden oak
Zen would be low-key useless in ow
native current
Now I know that we have only ONE support From Talon
Thats sad tbh
Anyway lw to Overwatch?
spare fox
Anyway lw to Overwatch?
I just think it's likely
I think the OW team will eventually wind up at the Arcology and meet up with him and the Martens
verbal shell
how would you guys rank the tanks on power level lore accurately
drifting meadow
how would you guys rank the tanks on power level lore accurately
Sig on top
Lore wise
rare trail
how would you guys rank the tanks on power level lore accurately
winston=orisa>doomfist=mauga
peak escarp
merry Christmas lore fam, our gift came early
we have faces for so many OW family members now
Valentine Chase-Chapman and Bonnie Chase-Chapman (and her dad I guess?)
Benicio dos Santos
azure flint
anything for sam
ruby ridge
merry Christmas lore fam, our gift came early
is that Zaryas family or is she a proud lesbian with kidd
ruby ridge
Grrrrrrrrr
native current
is that Zaryas family or is she a proud lesbian with kidd
I headcanoning that pink haired woman is Her Sister and these Kids are her nephews
Jack Please Hug Our Illari ❤️
spare fox
Soldier wtf u doin taking a detour in Peru?
hasty osprey
SO JOLLY !
merry token
🥺
native current
Where's the KFC bucket
Kiriko"s Fox ate all
merry token
I love the kfc rice cooker leftover atrocity that exists
verbal shell
i thought JQ kicked hog and Rat out but they’re just chillin
odd kite
does zen have any feats that could be used to power scale him
sonic python
Genji just...
my babies …… i love gency so much
also anyone who knows zarya lore: what. whose kids is she holding in the dinner scene.
i can’t post pictures but if someone shows the full panel you can see she’s holding some kids 😭 whose are those
spare fox
i can’t post pictures but if someone shows the full panel you can see she’s hold...
Her sister's
spare fox
i know NOTHING about zarya omg.
They're in New Blood #4
sonic python
ARE THOSE DINO NUGGETS ON GENJI’S PLATE HELP M
grand wedge
yes it is! there is a full plate of it on the table xD
sonic python
They're in New Blood #4
i don’t think i’ve read the new blood thingies yet
thank you
sonic python
yes it is! there is a full plate of it on the table xD
ugh he’s so real for that
mei and juno omg mei enjoyers are eating GOOD today
spare fox
I love seeing everyone in cozy casual clothes I love them
sonic python
sombra and sigma in that one panel too 😭 they’re so goofy i love it
also the lena and emily page i was DYING
merry token
mmm
shy dagger
yes it is! there is a full plate of it on the table xD
That’s amazing
golden oak
Genji just...
His ass is NOT drinking
past copper
So many people, some we’re actually seeing for the first time
Gotta say, Blizzard really cooked with this Christmas comic
static night
So many people, some we’re actually seeing for the first time
IS THAT LUCIOS DAD
peak escarp
when I get home I'm going to make an annotated version of the dinner panel and the 2-page spread with everyone's names
peak escarp
IS THAT LUCIOS DAD
yes
spare fox
I knew logically that Bonnie aged from when the Sojo novel took place BUT it's still a surprise to see her all grown up
open bolt
Genji just...
I'm so happy Genji and Mercy are together again.... not in a shipper way (tho it is cute) but they're finally interracting again after YEARS.
white cobalt
So many people, some we’re actually seeing for the first time
Who are between Zarya and Juno?
past copper
Who are between Zarya and Juno?
I believe that’s Zarya’s family
white cobalt
There are some unexpected bits
white cobalt
Wheres this comic from
tranquil hatch
Tracer’s abilities, like blinking and recalling, draw on advanced physics concepts like quantum tunneling and spacetime manipulation. Her “recall” could involve reversing entropy, while her blinking mirrors quantum teleportation or warp-drive theories, blending science fiction with real physics inspiration.
queen scaffold
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/together-comic/
Thanks
How did echo eat foodand even during christmas rein discriminates against omnics
Doesnt let bastion in on the group hug
queen scaffold
Tracer’s abilities, like blinking and recalling, draw on advanced physics concep...
Are you making this up or are these real things
tranquil hatch
I’m not making it up
past copper
How did echo eat foodand even during christmas rein discriminates against omnics
Or… Echo is taking empty platers off the table and Rein can’t hug 3 small people and a large robot in his arms all together
Cool to see everyone included, but I see bits that will expand on lore
queen scaffold
Or… Echo is taking empty platers off the table and Rein can’t hug 3 small people...
Nah he can he just wouldnt be holding torb so tightly, i can sense the sadness of bastion in this panel as he leans over to look at his surrogate family, unincluded
queen scaffold
Cool to see everyone included, but I see bits that will expand on lore
I thought sym was a bad guy why shes with zen
past copper
First of all, only Sanjay is the bad guy. Sym has no idea he’s a member of Talon
Second, Sym has been friends with Zenyatta since Stone by Stone
tranquil hatch
Blizzard’s insistence on releasing tanks with absurdly overpowered survivability tools showcases a remarkable inability to grasp even the most basic principles of balanced game design. It’s as if their decision-making process is less about understanding player engagement and more about throwing darts at a whiteboard labeled “What Will Break the Game Today?” Despite mountains of player feedback and years of evidence, they seem perpetually stuck in a loop of self-inflicted ignorance, mistaking stubbornness for innovation. It’s almost impressive how consistently they fumble the fundamentals—like a company determined to speedrun the collapse of its own credibility.
peak escarp
Blizzard’s insistence on releasing tanks with absurdly overpowered survivability...
that has nothing to do with lore
limber furnace
👀
open bolt
Blizzard’s insistence on releasing tanks with absurdly overpowered survivability...
Me when I'm ChatGPT
queen eagle
So many people, some we’re actually seeing for the first time
Orisa is nearly the height of a person while sitting and leaning over
ALSO
ARE JQ, HOG, HAMMOND, JUNKRAT HANGOUT OUT WITH EACHOTHER!?
First Time horse has been in a comic
merry mason
I thought sym was a bad guy why shes with zen
She works for bad people but she’s a good person.
Also 76 approaching illari? Big lore implications
peak escarp
yeah, excited to see where that goes
merry mason
I find it funny that all the family members that showed up are continently all the ones we already know about and no more.
peak escarp
let's see, who else could show up...
- Sojourn has no other family
- Cassidy has no family
- Pharah and Ana have no other family
- Brigitte's siblings and niblings could show up (we know them and they aren't here)
- Mercy has no family besides the Lindholms
- Genji and Hanzo aren't on great terms (and Kiriko isn't close enough to invite)
- maybe Tracer's family? Emily is the one she really cares about
- Orisa's whole family is here
- Lucio's mother is out of the picture
- D.Va could have invited MEKA squad or her parents, but they were probably too busy?
- Zarya's family is all here
- Juno's only family/friend is Mei
- maybe Mei's family?
- Baptiste is an orphan and any friends he might have would be put in danger by coming here
besides maybe Tracer, D.Va and Mei's parents, everyone important to them is here
hushed jetty
MAUGA DAD REVEALLLL
IM TWEAKING
past copper
besides maybe Tracer, D.Va and Mei's parents, everyone important to them is here
To be fair, we don't know anything about Mei's parents. As far as we know, her only family was her team and well...
...they're on ice
peak escarp
yeah
past copper
Something to consider, it could be likely Mei and Hana lost their families from the Omnic Crisis. Countless people died from that war after all
peak escarp
Hana was born after the crisis
and has voice lines mentioning her dad
and if a hero is a war orphan, they would mention it like they did for Mercy, Baptiste and Sombra
acoustic ice
just read the together comic
and ana being there’s been really catching my attention
is she finally coming out of hiding?
peak escarp
I made a guide for everyone at the table (you'll have to open it in a browser to read all the names)
acoustic ice
also one of the phreaks is a ravaged unit
so cool to see that ramattra’s not the only one
tall summit
That doesn't stop them from having dinner with the rest of Overwatch
rare trail
Hmmm isnt Farah Family is Muslims?
ana is egyptian and sam is native canadian
ana is likely to be a muslim given that is the most common religion in egypt but its not 100% and isnt confirmed anywhere afaik
and we know next to nothing about sam so i would be shocked if we knew abt his religion
also tattoos are a no no in islam but they might just not be intense
spare fox
I made a guide for everyone at the table (you'll have to open it in a browser to...
Missed opportunity to give Winston a last name: "Winston Overwatch" lol
keen summit
Soldier is meeting illari
keen summit
I made a guide for everyone at the table (you'll have to open it in a browser to...
Ngl i dont get why dvas mechanic of all things would be invited
grand wedge
Ngl i dont get why dvas mechanic of all things would be invited
because he his her childhood friend and best friend
rare trail
Ngl i dont get why dvas mechanic of all things would be invited
she prob just got a +1 they seem tight in shooting star
keen summit
she prob just got a +1 they seem tight in shooting star
ngl its kinda sad cuz juno CANT have her family
grand wedge
realistically, there is no point for us to see dva's parents since they were never shown before... but people liked dae-yun, so there is that.
keen summit
was zaryas sister ever shown? i cant remember
grand wedge
In New Blood #4
I think one of them is a sister, but the other may be his sister's wife
I don't think it was ever specified that they were her sisters, people just assumed
(correct me if i'm wrong)
keen summit
ahhh i missed that\
native current
also tattoos are a no no in islam but they might just not be intense
Tbh I started to think that Ana is into more ancient egypt religìon tho
By looking at her tattos of Ra i guess
queen eagle
I made a guide for everyone at the table (you'll have to open it in a browser to...
Honestly
I thought efis family died or something
native current
I thought efis family died or something
😵💫 lol
queen eagle
shy dagger
Hmmm isnt Farah Family is Muslims?
Ana is probably pagan seeing how she has a Horus tattoo and her lines “the eye of Horus watches over you”. I assume in the Overwatch timeline the ancient Egyptian religion doesn’t go extinct like in ours and still has some followers, Ana being one of them
queen eagle
So does torb have superhuman strength?
cloud otter
Ana is probably pagan seeing how she has a Horus tattoo and her lines “the eye o...
i mean who said its extinct
probably some peope out there still worshipping
shy dagger
i mean who said its extinct
It’s definitely extinct here in Egypt
What I meant was that they probably continued to exist since ancient times as a minority throughout history
golden oak
LW does not have a robotic hand confirmed
peak escarp
Missed opportunity to give Winston a last name: "Winston Overwatch" lol
I originally had it with everyone's Hero name in brackets, not just the ones that were different from their real names, so it was Winston (Winston), Cole Cassidy (Cassidy), Bastion (Bastion), etc.
queen eagle
LW does not have a robotic hand confirmed
Lw is not 7 feet tall confirmed
golden oak
Missed opportunity to give Winston a last name: "Winston Overwatch" lol
Btw does Winston even have a last name? Apparently he’s recognised as a citizen but we don’t know much how that works
peak escarp
dunno
candid helm
What do you think are the top 10 strongest in lore?
golden oak
What do you think are the top 10 strongest in lore?
- Efi
- Lucio’s dad
- Lucio
- Mama Hong
- Mercy
- Iggy
- Martina (reaper’s wife)
- Soldier 76
- Brig
- Ganymede
Why did discord change my numbers 💀