lore-discussion

[cunning sail]

please tell me that juno isn't scared of cats

[gritty pendant]

She is

[cunning sail]

man

[novel void]

Bold Claim: Soundquake needs to come out ASAP

[peak escarp]

we don't know anything about Soundquake

besides his chest missiles

[verbal shell]

wow another melee character besides rein would be so cool

[warm mango]

where is the chart of the unreleased characters?

[rare trail]

um brig

[fallow mantle]

and that hassan and naade's screams could deafen even sound quake!

[novel void]

ok? doesnt matter- first person to be name-dropped in a cinematic, shown off in the recall cinematic, is shown in the first lineup of heroes in the first cinematic, also we didn't know anything about venture, juno, or this new hero

[spare fox]

Wasn't Soundquake also Korean - I know it was mentioned in Declassified but I don't have it on hand now

[peak escarp]

we haven't seen Soundquake anywhere - the hero people are claiming is Soundquake is actually Wildebeest (or a version of his design)

[rare trail]

we know a lot more abt juno and venture than soundquaie

[novel void]

now we do

if i told you a year ago "who is juno" i dont think anyone would know

[novel void]

regardless- soundquake should be added

[peak escarp]

I agree

[novel void]

And wildebeest

Since i did not know that that was wildeebeast

i also want a null sector ominc, or even a talon one

https://i.imgur.com/2Hri1yl.png

I want to see these two circled in red, now finding out that the right one is wildebeest, but i also dont know who the left guy is- and im guessing the middle one i circled in blue is an early concept of echo- not athena

[spare fox]

iirc the hazmat suit hero was an early concept for a bomb-based hero (eventually they turned that into Junkrat), but Torb wears it in his comic where he confronts Sven in the Titan/mech

[novel void]

ah ok good, i didnt want him anyways

[spare fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/180857715109789697/1296530411345940593/image.png?ex=67129f8a&is=67114e0a&hm=53877dc2d881a682a20e545cd2aadc7648684f7300b5cd52245fbdcc0c7223b9&

[verbal shell]

lol oops

[dusk granite]

what was lucio's lore before overwatch 2, i never got to know

[spare fox]

his father worked for vishkar and developed this sound-based tech that vishkar then laid claim to, Lucio stole it back. He grew up in a favela that Vishkar set its sights on to "restore" and he stood against Vishkar stepping in. Also he's a world famous DJ

[polar garnet]

adding onto this

he started music as an outlet for the people, starting in his local community
after he stood up to vishkar, his music spread worldwide, not just because of the tunes but the message it carried

[golden oak]

I hope Havana getting a lot of talon accessories means we’ll get some archives revamp

Because they didn’t have to add all those stuff and they did

[spare fox]

and I hope that this return to environmental storytelling doesn't mean it's the only storytelling they're going to be using

[spare fox]

could be maps, could be heroes, could be both 👀

[golden oak]

Last time they teased Peru and Samoa we got both heroes and maps

I think maps are more certain tho

Since we already have an arcology hero

[spare fox]

I wouldn't consider "we already have a(n)_____ hero" a reason to rule it out, but I admit I am more interested in an arcology map

hoping it lives up to the anticipation since they've been building it up since the beginning of OW2 it seems like

oh and there's Phreaks graffiti on the New Queen Street map too

[polar garnet]

i doubt a whole map would be called arcology

it’s an architectural concept

not a name

[spare fox]

well we do have a map called colloseo which is an architectural concept

Lijiang Tower

[golden oak]

Where

[golden oak]

It’s called Atlantic Arcology

[spare fox]

in the underground bar that serves as a forward spawnroom

[polar garnet]

oh is it?
i thought it was just another name for the colosseum

[spare fox]

it's the italian word for colosseum

[polar garnet]

ah thought so

[golden oak]

I just realised there’s genji’s room in Nepal village

[sinful furnace]

wait wtf

where

[golden oak]

Is Gabrielle Adawe still alive?

[spare fox]

no

she passed away, natural causes - it's in declassified

[golden oak]

High ground near the point

There’s a dark room there

[golden oak]

Yeah I thought so since she designed the city apparently

I wonder how old numbani is

It’s like relatively new right

[polar garnet]

yes

[peak escarp]

less than 26 years old

since that's when the crisis ended

[golden oak]

Wait but doomfist the savior helped fight the crisis in numbani

• Ana has that voice line saying she’s jealous of how numbani recovered from the crisis so fast

Numbani had to be created before the crisis, no?

[past copper]

Numbani was constructed after the Crisis to honor Doomfist for single-handedly defending his home from the omnics

It was also to be a beacon of equality between humans and omnics after the war. A place where they can live alongside each other in peace

[golden oak]

So what was his home

[past copper]

His home was several villages that couldn’t defend themselves from the encroaching omnics. He fought them alone using only his Doomfist gauntlet

Hence how he became known as the Savior

[civic peak]

What is the overwatch lore

[opaque tundra]

A lot

[weary quarry]

Apes strong together

[ember ginkgo]

waiting for story missions be like:

[spare fox]

I really don't think there's any more in the pipeline, sadly

Not saying never but

[peak escarp]

it's on indefinite hiatus

[dusk granite]

just retcon the story missions at this point 😭

oops accidentally put reply ping

srry

[peak escarp]

why retcon?

[dusk granite]

they're not gonna continue the story man

[peak escarp]

doesn't mean they have to throw away what has already happened

the story can pick up from there in comics/short stories/cinematics

[dusk granite]

didn't they literally try doing that until they realized they fucked up lol

so they just added what's left for season 6

[peak escarp]

what

[dusk granite]

the story missions

and the announcement before saying they were just going to full on abandon pve

am I lost or smth

[peak escarp]

they announced that hero missions were cancelled

but story missions would continue

[dusk granite]

ah my bad

[peak escarp]

and now the fate of story missions is unknown - some sources say they've been cancelled, but there hasn't been any official statement from the dev team

[dusk granite]

I don't think overwatch 2 should be relied on something exciting though still and story missions are definitely just not coming back.

Which is a shame because I'd really wanna see what happened to Zenyatta

Or even offtopic, the apparent Netflix show they were going to get

[keen summit]

It was said by insiders and journalists who twisted words

The only thing said bout pve was "we are focussing on pvp"

[golden oak]

Since Sombra and Junkrat worked in junkenstein, do you think it could work in the main story as well?

[tulip axle]

Iirc they were bought over by netflix?

The rights for it

But nothing was done for it smh

[spare fox]

Wdym worked? Like team up or allied? Or are you talking shipping?

[golden oak]

As a couple

[spare fox]

I find it kind of difficult to see Sombra getting romantically attached to anyone let alone tolerating Junkrat in more than a temporary colleague I guess?

I can't exactly find it but wasn't there a strong implication that Sombra and the two junkers sort-of worked together on the Dorado heist?

[polar garnet]

theres a shit ton of it
best places to start are the cinematics, origin stories & comics/books

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ze-pazCdiM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFWIw7wV8Q&list=PLwbHNNHjurkY4CIcm7YAZuo-SdVR8E7FA

all cinematics & origin stories

the wiki is also a good source if you like reading

[civic peak]

Ty

[past copper]

Something I'd like to see in Junkenstein is an updated ver for Sojourn

Seeing she officially has a Halloween themed skin now over that cyberpunk one she had

[hoary pond]

Wym updated tho

[past copper]

I mean how the narrator addresses Sojourn in the Junkenstein sequel

[hoary pond]

Oh I see

[past copper]

Change her cyberpunk skin and replace it with her witchbane skin

After all, it fits the theme now

[hoary pond]

Ig so

I didn’t play those old modes, only the new one

I didn’t care for them when they came out and prolly still won’t

[turbid lintel]

this game has lore?

i thought those guys got fired

[blazing shore]

@peak escarp OMFG???

https://x.com/playoverwatch/status/1847314706253402457?s=46&t=NJxam8vRM4p4JXSrQa2wqg

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch) on X

Behind every empire is a mastermind pulling the strings 😈

Witness Maximilien’s risky rise to the top in the new short story, “The Pocket King” 👑

📖 https://t.co/eB422cxGUG

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 4:32 PM

[twilit patrol]

What ??

[blazing shore]

max lore

[twilit patrol]

MAX ?!!

[blazing shore]

MAX!!!

please blizzard make max a playable character and my life is yours

[twilit patrol]

Wait

Is this from Heroes Ascendants ?

[blazing shore]

uhh i don’t think so

[twilit patrol]

ah

[blazing shore]

it just came out today i think

[twilit patrol]

No it isn't

I checked

But wtf that was so random

Last time we got Max lore was in 2019 I think ?

[blazing shore]

yeah

they’re adding a lot more stuff to the lore

like on numbani they added a picture that shows the entirety of the “Overwatch” group as a whole

i genuinely think there’s hope for PVE or at least the story being expanded upon (like it is with these short stories)

and kiriko has some new stuff with hanaoka and hanamura

u kinda gotta do some digging but there’s just sooo much added this szn in the map reworks

[blazing shore]

orisa and efi have officially joined overwatch ^

alongside juno

[twilit patrol]

Yeah that's huge

The tablet at Circuit Royal

[blazing shore]

yeah i kinda wanna load up a custom and just do a deep dive for myself 😭

[twilit patrol]

The M has to be Max

[blazing shore]

even the monitors in oasis have been updated, some stuff has to be translated but it’s just so so interesting

[twilit patrol]

I don't see who else

[blazing shore]

i tbink the new tank hero is gonna have a huge impact on the lore

perhaps we’ll see something w sym, lifeweaver and moira

maybe even lucio bc of his relation to vishkar

PLEAAAASE GIVE ME LUCIO LORE PLEAAAAAAAASE

[twilit patrol]

Yeah it looks big

[blazing shore]

i’m so excited

AAAAAAAA

[worthy rose]

The new Phreak stuff looks awesome

Looks like a new faction, with ties to Moira as an experiment, and Tracer as one of her friends' revolutionarys

[blazing shore]

REAL

it’s gonna add an entirely new layer

[worthy rose]

And I'm a tank main which is huge

[blazing shore]

i’m so freaking hyped for s14

[worthy rose]

Looks like he shoots big crystals

[twilit patrol]

S14 will go hard

[worthy rose]

AND a sick venture skin

This season kinda blows, the mythic is the worst so far

[native current]

they added New short story about max

[worthy rose]

Maximilian?

[peak escarp]

yep

the omnic who runs Talon's money

he seems to be trying to leave Talon

as I expected

[spare fox]

either leave or drum up a "pocket king" to turn things to his advantage (again) within Talon

though looking it up, it's the second best thing you can be dealt (in poker)

it also implies two kings which I'm assuming means Max and Doom but I'm not taking that for granted

[azure flint]

max abt to get poached

[golden oak]

visually it would fit more but the narrator says she’s a detective and she even plays the role of a detective in the game mode

[golden oak]

So it’s possible they met

[hoary pond]

I need Sombra x junkrat or Sombra x ramattra to be lord accurate rn or ima loose it

[spare fox]

I'd think so

https://youtu.be/H0hoSnmlV54?si=0oKaUkF7LE5HSrjj

Some of these are very different... I can't imagine what they'd even be for? Kiriko finally got her shield generator line, some capture the flag lines I guess

Widow's VA had so much fun you can tell ❤️

[keen summit]

Maximilian lore i loved it

[sullen girder]

You think the new hero might be a mutant right now?

[keen summit]

Yeah i thought that already

[peak escarp]

probably one of Moira's test subjects

[sullen girder]

If that’s the case then there’s a chance he could be another talon character

[fallow mantle]

inb4 max put that hit on doomfist lmao

[polar garnet]

ayo???

spicy

ive been craving more maximilien lore

[peak escarp]

more likely one of her experiments from Oasis

[blazing shore]

i think he’s against talon

and especially against what moira did to him

but idk that’s kinda js rhe vibe i got

[sullen girder]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a junker. I mean even though we’ve seen his funny icon from venture’s early preview last year, he did kinda have off a junker vibe

[blazing shore]

yeah for sure

he deff gives junker vibes tho idk how it would work considering he was potentially locked away in oasis for so long

[sullen girder]

They’ll probably show him next month. You think he’ll be a buff guy or something? Tanks are technically bigger then most heroes

[blazing shore]

probably yeah

[spare fox]

for sure like if he's a mutant and not mauga-sized it's a missed opportunity

but you guys bring up a good point - where have the mutants been? if they're not brand new I guess?

I know Moira has a lot of power in Oasis but enough power to keep people locked up unbeknownst to others?

[sullen girder]

It’s a silly picture but we at least have an idea on what he look like

[spare fox]

another thing that's Probably Nothing™️ but Junkerqueen's origin video mentioned that she fought mutants in the outback, I wonder if that's quasi related or just hyperbole for the song?

[sullen girder]

Form the looks of it, he might have a shell with big spikes

[slim token]

dm me for a suprise :)

[azure flint]

10k ow coins

[pure shoal]

So I guess I can ask this here since Missions is related to the lore, SO when zenyatta gets found by|| Widow and sombra ||what happens... is that all for the missions?? (Spoiler alert btw if u havent played it)

DO I have to wait for overwatch 3...

it cant be

I NEED ANSWERS I NEED IT

[pure shoal]

BUT ARE THERE GONNA BE MORE MISSIONS?!

[azure flint]

whos the weakest character in lore that we know enough about

[peak escarp]

Juno

[peak escarp]

🤷‍♀️

[pure shoal]

I need them Im addicted to the lore now I need more

[azure flint]

you can go read the new story or wtv

about maximillian

[pure shoal]

Where and how?

[azure flint]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/the-pocket-king/

[pure shoal]

Okk tyy

[azure flint]

all the stories are there too

[pure shoal]

ooooh

[sullen girder]

Oh look a cutscene that we’ll never see cause they decided to cancel story missions

[peak escarp]

😔

[keen summit]

Actually tho this might increase the chance of max as hero

He took a risk

[waxen summit]

I'd say Juno as well.

She just swooped in and all.

I could say the same for venture, though.

[hoary pond]

Weakest physically or weakest hardware wise

[queen eagle]

Zenyatta is down there because blizzard sucks

He should've been a godlike monk

His abilities aren't even canon for some reason

[patent trench]

who is the current Strike-Commander of Overwatch?

[patent trench]

what are shield generator lines even for at this point? Doesn’t Juno have some too?

[golden oak]

Winston ig

But it’s not as organised as the original overwatch was

Since it’s unofficial now

[spare fox]

I guess they're just in case, if they want to add it as an ability or have it for another hero at some point in the future

[sullen girder]

I just heard an interesting respawn voiceline from widowmaker reacting to genji. “His brother should’ve finished the job”

[peak escarp]

oof

[azure flint]

how do yall think genji sees the world

green or normal? full thing or only part of it bc of his mask?

[peak escarp]

probably normal

[sullen girder]

Right? Like, how does she even know what happened between them

[peak escarp]

Reaper might have told her

or Moira

[willow meadow]

Is it true Widow is slowing gaining her feelings and emotions back

[civic peak]

Kinda

But Moira keeps her in check

[cunning sail]

how

[civic peak]

Voicelines interaction between Moira and Widow

[hoary pond]

Widow maker is deathly afraid of Moira

There’s a voice line with widow, idk how to get it spacifically but if you head shot a Moira she says something like “the burdon is lifted” or something

[cunning sail]

i see

[golden oak]

She’s not

Her emotions are suppressed

[hoary pond]

have you never heard them interact lol

[golden oak]

Yeah

[peak escarp]

she's not afraid of Moira

Moira is just the one responsible for supressing her emotions

[azure flint]

what if ow just captured widow and raised her heart rate and brought back her emotions and boom

problem solved :D

no more sniper

[willow meadow]

Good luck capturing her

[azure flint]

ur welcome blizzard

[peak escarp]

she still murdered a lot of people

[fallow mantle]

widow and i are so alike

she is blue and i am blue 😔

i wish we got more mirrorwatch stuff. it was so interesting

[wild jacinth]

Is there any new or info on the max comic is gonna be about or when it's gonna release ?

[cinder kayak]

what if in the lore bastion explodes and they js remove him from the game i tjink thatd be pretty awesome

[peak escarp]

they won't remove anyone from the game

even if they die in the lore

[cinder kayak]

itd be pretty sigma though

[hoary pond]

In mirror watch they killed off ramattra

[opaque tundra]

Because it’s not canon and it doesn’t matter

[azure flint]

would they ever kill off a hero

since mercy cant actually revive ppl they would be dead dead unless they came back somehow

[spare fox]

in the old days of Jeff Kaplan he said that if a hero dies in lore, they're still going to be a hero in game

[civic peak]

Is Jeff Kaplan still in blizzard?

[twilit patrol]

He left in 2021

[civic peak]

Exactly

[twilit patrol]

So ?

[twilit patrol]

If there's at least one hero who could die I'd say Reinhardt

[spare fox]

we'll have to assume that what he said still stands until we hear that it doesn't though

that said, regardless of what happens in lore/story I really don't think they'll remove a hero from the PvP game

[civic peak]

Remove sombra

For hacking

[spare fox]

she just got nerfed into the pavement

[last mirage]

Juno

Juno all the way

[glad pumice]

wait, mercy cant, but moira can?

[peak escarp]

Moira can't either

[azure flint]

how did moira even get her powers or wtv did she just experiment on herself

[peak escarp]

she experimented on herself

possibly using the same thing she used on Reaper

maybe even using his DNA

[azure flint]

is her ult canon

[peak escarp]

we haven't seen it in the lore yet

[azure flint]

i see

what other ults have we not seen

did i ask that before im having deja vu

[peak escarp]

probably

[azure flint]

nvm it was abt which ones we HAVE seen

[peak escarp]

we haven't seen... Ana, Brigitte, Echo, Illari, Junkrat, Juno, Lifeweaver, Mauga, Moira, Orisa (we've seen her old ult but not the new one), Ramattra, Sigma, Symmetra (we've seen her teleporter [former ult], but not her wall), Venture, Zenyatta

[azure flint]

i can see a few of those happening and others probably not

nano boost and rally for the former tree of life for the latter

[peak escarp]

yeah those aren't unbelievable

a few of those are on the list just because they haven't been in a lot of lore

[azure flint]

tree of life is huge and id think it would take a lot of power from lw to make it

kinda funny junk has a tire on his back but has never used it in lore

[polar garnet]

i mean to be fair junkrat’s canon appearances do feature his tire on his back

he never used it in lore

but it does exist

[peak escarp]

yeah

[novel void]

thoughts on who the new hero is? name, affiliation? Ominc, OW, Talon, Other like junkertown

[peak escarp]

it probably is some kind of explosive, but I don't think he ran remote control it with his mind

[polar garnet]

they’re from a gang called phreaks iirc

tank

[peak escarp]

their internal codename is Spiker, and he seems to be affiliated with a new group called the Phreaks

who have beef with Oasis's genetics ministry

[novel void]

ok ok

Ah, see i told people that them adding a hero called phreak would be stupid

being part of the phreaks- i like it

[polar garnet]

oh hell yes i already crave moiras interactions w/ this guy

[novel void]

Spiker is a cool codename tho

[azure flint]

about to get phreaky

[polar garnet]

actually in his leaked pic he looked goofy as hell so possibly genetic modification?

[novel void]

which leaked pic?

[polar garnet]

lemme fetch it

[novel void]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/overwatch_gamepedia/images/e/ef/Phreak.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119054923

This one?

[weary quarry]

The blizzcon one

Where he has a big jaw

[azure flint]

nah think hes talking abt the "leaked" hero icon

from blizzcon

[novel void]

oh the super tiny one?

[azure flint]

yes

[polar garnet]

i am

[novel void]

https://i.imgur.com/gU8wkXM.png

This one?

[polar garnet]

yes

[novel void]

i wish i still had regular

would make my life easier

i honestly can barely tell anything about him- thought he was a turtle of some kind

[azure flint]

a cool ult would be if he set up spikes in the ground that would pop up when the enemy stepped on them or smth

[polar garnet]

that’s just a minefield reskin

[grizzled drift]

I don't understand lore at all and this thought literally just popped into my head but would Juno know about omnics at all? Like how she didn't know it was insulting to compare Ram to a rover?

[peak escarp]

she'd know whatever her parents/the other scientists on Mars would tell her

[novel void]

^

[hoary pond]

Junos parents arrived on mars right after the sort of middle point in the omic crisis (I believe) so it’s likely she knew that they think and understand things, she’s just not accustomed to them id think

[grizzled drift]

Sounds about right

[peak escarp]

Juno is 19

the omnic crisis ended 26 years ago

it's possible they left Earth after the crisis ended and omnics became sentient

[grizzled drift]

Cause like her comment feels like a little kid going off of what little she knows instead of being intentionally insulting

[novel void]

man i just want more cinematics

[amber blaze]

could someone please look at my post in gameplay advice?

[grizzled drift]

not the channel to ask dawg

[dusk granite]

how has hanzo not recovered after realizing his brother is alive after overwatch 2 😭

[spare fox]

wdym not recovered?

[marble charm]

I mean

"Murdering" your brother

[azure flint]

im sure it would take a while to get over the fact that your clan elders forced you to kill your own brother and thinking you did but then turns out he survived and has become a cyborg assassin

[marble charm]

Being banished from your family

Only to discover

He was alive and he didn't even hit you up?

[azure flint]

also that

why everybody got such fucked up backstories in ow lore bro damn

[marble charm]

And the way he reveals to you

That he is still alive

Is by attacking you while you're trying to honor his memory

[peak escarp]

Hanzo wasn't banished from his family

he left voluntarily

[marble charm]

Oh my bad

You get the point though

[keen summit]

Yeah again most of us are thinking hes a mutant made by moira

[tranquil terrace]

Where to watch lore

[mighty vigil]

theres a ton of videos that go in depth into overwatch's lore
you can also read the comics which go into those details and show us characters we dont see and mostly dont hear of in game

[keen summit]

just start with origin stories and genesis

[keen summit]

to you

[tranquil terrace]

So where can i watch this?

[keen summit]

youtubr

[tranquil terrace]

Oh okay, is it on the overwatch youtube page?

[keen summit]

yes

[tranquil terrace]

Okay ty

[frosty lance]

man who tf wants all this soldier being a military man garbage? we get it. hes a soldier, hes been in war. let him be a human with a PERSONALITY too

if i see one more s76 cosmetic and its just him doing a little military twirl with his gun or some form of salute im gonna blow my stack

and bring back his spray with his ex boyfriend

[queen eagle]

Your take is wrong

Yeah hes a soldier

But his personality is actually being old

And hes awesome

I hope they make his personality being gay because it would be pretty funny

[spare fox]

lol

you actually do get some glimpses of his non-soldier personality in surprising ways like his rattledrum emote and the OW cookbook of all places

he can be silly and easy-going when he's not being betrayed and killed by his best friend

[lavish nexus]

wait is soldier gay? sorry im not really educated about the lore

[spare fox]

yes, Soldier, Pharah, and Tracer are gay, Lifeweaver is pansexual, Baptiste is bisexual
Torbjorn, Ana, Widowmaker, and Reaper have confirmed to been in hetero relationships
Sojourn and Mercy have been asked about (unnamed) male love interests

[hoary pond]

quote from dev "mercy has alot of marriage cannadates and unfortunatly hog ate them all"

[native current]

Who is for u best written
Added hero in ow2?

[cunning sail]

i like the way they wrote illari

[lavish nexus]

tysm for the reply and about the other heros too

[native current]

She is my second fav hero

Soo ye

[novel void]

so doom asked genji where did he (genji) and genji was like you know who and he went "her..." is that kiris mom or someone else?

[worthy rose]

What??

Where did he what

[spare fox]

I'm pretty sure they're talking about this interaction:

Doomfist: "Who taught you the blade?"
Genji: "The best swordmaster in the world." Doomfist: "Ah… her."

[novel void]

Yes that

[spare fox]

yeah it's Kiriko's mother, Asa

[novel void]

i didnt quite remember the line

since i was in comp

also- has the whole kiri growing up with genji and hanzo been solved?

[spare fox]

no

we don't know why, she really should be at least 26 but we have no answer for that

[torn elm]

So is juno an actual alien or a human raised on mars?

Also, if i had a nickel for every game character who’s an alien named juno id have 2 nickels, it aint much but weird it happened twice

[spare fox]

she's a human that was born and raised on mars

[torn elm]

Ooohhh

[spare fox]

there's an explanation for her name but the words "Ju" and "No" are derived from "Red Promise" which is the program her parents are part of

[torn elm]

Oooohhh

[novel void]

I think her parents are Vietnamese

[spare fox]

her mother is from Singapore, her father is Vietnamese

[novel void]

Thats it- father is vietnamese

and i dont know anything about how mei was friends with the parents

[spare fox]

she is friends with Jiayi, her mother, from grad school

[novel void]

I need more lore accurate characters

Like if Im reinhardt I shouldnt be able to be booped away by lucio- if I am going at 30 mph weighing 50 tons (being hyperbolic)

[peak escarp]

lore accurate Overwatch would be very fun for some heroes and basically unplayable for others

and a few wouldn't really change

[grizzled drift]

I had the idea of lore accurate OW a while back

Tracer with (seemingly) infinite blinks, the Doomfist actually being useable, that kind of stuff

[polar garnet]

lore accurate overwatch fights would be funny

• sombra wouldn’t even need to show up to win the fight
• widow would just kill you before you even arrived to the match
• sigma would win. period
• there’s no way sm1 like reaper and tracer will be on the same team

etc

[weary quarry]

Talon is op, lore wise

[grizzled drift]

Oh yeah and Dragonblade is finally not complete shit

[spare fox]

Lore accurate Hanzo would run out of arrows. In fact, most heroes would just run out of ammo. Depending on how much they could carry on their person ig.

Imagine having to make your way back to the drop ship for ammo?

[rare trail]

tracer doesnt have inf blinks, shes shown needing to recharge in museum

[rare trail]

sig power isnt like

known at all

he hasnt done anything in lore

[grizzled drift]

yeah but like, any control over gravity is nuts

he can open black holes too

[spare fox]

welllll if you want to be technical if he opened any black hole everything would be done

[rare trail]

the only time he did that in lore it was for a fraction of a second, before he got his powers, and with equipment

[spare fox]

did he actually open a black hole or was he doing experimentations on gravity up there and studying black holes?

because a black hole is just, The End.

[polar garnet]

^

[polar garnet]

he opened one

somehow survived

[rare trail]

the black ball shown in origin is a graviton and iirc its stated a really really tiny black hole formed for a fraction of a second

[polar garnet]

idefk ow is meant to be fun not realistic

[rare trail]

well

equipment opened one

anyone couldve done that

[spare fox]

I was legit asking

[rare trail]

inforget exactly what origin says

but the black hole collapsed on its own

and was very small

anwyays all weve seen sig do with his powers is float some small objects

so we dont know how strong they are

[spare fox]

so according to his origin video: he was working on harnessing the power of a black hole

[grizzled drift]

all this just makes me more mad we don't get more animated shorts or a netflix series

Sig is so damn cool but iirc all we've got is his banger backstory video and nothing else

[azure flint]

sigma has the best origin story imo

2nd doomfist

[grizzled drift]

real, but we don't get to see him because fuck you

Blizzard, hire a new lore team, and my life is yours

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-god-of-war-knees-gods-gif-17928519

[peak escarp]

Sigma's origin story was all spectacle and didn't really give us any information about him

I think the best origin stories are the ones that give the whole hero's backstory, like Ashe, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Ramattra

[grizzled drift]

Fair, I just like Sig's because of the vibe it gives off

But please god, give us SOMETHING about him

[spare fox]

Sigma's story was great because it was all showing instead of telling
We don't know exactly what happened but we know its aftereffects and the emotions involved

and the who what where when how are all jumbled up because that's exactly what happened to Dr. de Kuiper

[opaque tundra]

Also note that there are 40 characters and only 3 writers to take care of them. Unfortunately, some will have to just vibe in the background for the foreseeable future

[weary quarry]

Is one of those writers Chris Metzen?

[peak escarp]

no

[weary quarry]

Bc he helped with Sigs origin and did a bunch on WoW. Id like him on ow

Damn

[azure flint]

just hire more writers

[weary quarry]

Fourhead

[peak escarp]

Metzen's only involvement with Overwatch is as the voice of Bastion

[azure flint]

[weary quarry]

[azure flint]

its crazy how in 8 yrs they havent uploaded tracers origin officially to yt

some random guy did instead

[peak escarp]

yep

[azure flint]

the fuckin poster girl of ow lol

[weary quarry]

Its not canon, but the Echo of Hope comic is also missing from the site

Just odd

[azure flint]

overwatch lost media 😱

[weary quarry]

I have it :^)

[peak escarp]

they probably took it down because it provoked The Mouse's lawyers

I have it too

[weary quarry]

That would make sense

[spare fox]

Which one is echo of hope?

[weary quarry]

The Starwatch related one

https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Starwatch:_An_Echo_of_Hope

[spare fox]

ohhhh yeah

[worthy rose]

Venture

[opaque tundra]

Why yes! Venture!

Venture is a hero!

[spare fox]

With the next hero release, we will have the same number of post-OW1 launch heroes as launch heroes

The cast has doubled wooo

More than doubled if you count BOB

[potent locust]

So did yall know that Hammond was actually supposed to revolutionize Junkertown to hunting down mercy for the crimes she's committed against the jews in 1939 but sadly they canceled pve along with that fight

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[rapid mountain]

Well technically Kiriko is the new poster girl

[potent locust]

Im simply explaining the lore if pve wasn't scrapped I be speaking the truth out here mane

[peak escarp]

you're making up nonsense

none of that is true

[potent locust]

Did you create the pve lore that was scrapped

[peak escarp]

do you have a source?

[potent locust]

Yea

[potent locust]

🤓

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel, if you're going to make shit up you are not welcome here

[potent locust]

punches

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742286666466852904/1076583001514840206/kBvWHZlW.gif

[azure flint]

lol

[sullen girder]

I know I said this before but I’m hoping that phreak is another buff guy. Maybe somewhere between doom and mauga. Might be possible since he might be a mutant

[peak escarp]

I hope he's younger

under 35

we have so few male heroes under 35

[azure flint]

uncwatch

[golden oak]

We only have Lucio and Bap?

Wait bap is almost 40

How

[golden oak]

It is weird how last 3 female characters we got are early 20s or even below 20 but the male heroes are all over 30

[timid venture]

Does ramattra knows that widow killed mondatta and if yes doesn't he should hate her for that because it doesn't look like that

I could fix ramattra fr ❤️

[merry token]

Junkrat

Technically Ram and Hammond too (?)

[native current]

We need twink

Yes

😍

[cedar shuttle]

...

[native current]

Its half Joke ma'am

[fair sierra]

i saw this guy say that it looks like he might be like a lizard-esque thing

i think he may be a bit more slender but definitely not on the skinny side

honestly im interested in seeing how hell play out

[native current]

Why Genji ddint take human parts like Sojourn?
I mean You know what I mean

[keen summit]

yeah i said that too

theres alot of snake stuff

[sullen girder]

I also saw a bulldog icon in the teaser in oasis, so he might be bulky?

Cause bull dogs look kinda bulky. Or maybe he’d use both bulldog and lizard aspects?

[fair sierra]

maybe hes like

a komodo dragon

wait im cooking

[keen summit]

guys toronto also has phreak grafiti

[dense nebula]

Well he’s Scottish and we know how those legends are

I think?

Is he Scottish?

Nothing has given me that vibe for him yet

[sullen girder]

Yeah he’s Scottish

[dense nebula]

Looks more like a Jumker based on what I’ve seen and heard

I guess looks is the wrong word here since we haven’t seen him yet

Besides that one teaser for him way back

The crudely drawn image

[hushed jetty]

i doubt he's a junker, idk why there would be a scottish junker

[merry token]

They both have robotic parts, are you asking why Genji didn’t choose to have cybernetics that were more similar looking to actual limbs?

Tbf her cybernetics aren’t that much more real limb looking than Genji’s, they’re just toned to her skin color

[native current]

i mean Genji was deppresed bc he is now half robot sooo why not just make body who looks like more humanly

[merry token]

His cybernetics were originally more lifesaving and quick

Obviously sojourn’s were also lifesaving but she had much more time to have them altered by multiple people

Also Genji came to term with his cybernetics after spending time on his self journey so there’s no real reason to change them now

[native current]

hmm this sounds fine i guess

atleast he wears now clothes!

[dusk granite]

if you stare at winston, will he get angry (gorillas see direct eye contact as a way of aggression)

[rocky scaffold]

Headcanon all gorillas need glasses and they can’t see who you are properly without glasses, Winton doesn’t get angry cause he can see properly

[slim token]

dm me for a surpise ;)

[azure flint]

aint nobody doing that

[north oxide]

https://www.twitch.tv/unyeildinghold

[sullen girder]

I could see that. I mean so far, every junker we’ve seen is Australian. At least jq and junkrat, I don’t know of roadhog is Australian, probably can’t tell due to that mask he wears

[peak escarp]

he is Australian

but he's probably also Maori

[hushed jetty]

roadhog is implied to be maori, probably specifically new zealand

he uses kiwi slang in some lines

so he probably at least has relatives from there

[peak escarp]

he's confirmed to be an Australian citizen

and Australia has a large Maori population

[hushed jetty]

this is also true

honestly its baffling how theyve never officially stated that he's maori

[sullen girder]

Honestly i can’t wait for the next hero. Like the waiting is killing me

[cunning sail]

so much to see and learn

i'm the same way

[hushed jetty]

i just know im gonna love him

another overwatch character to add to my favs list

[worthy rose]

So basically widow is the strongest in lore

[peak escarp]

why

[sick bone]

next character is a tank and scottish right?

[hushed jetty]

yes

[native current]

This girl is just normal woman with gun....
And she very fragile

[ripe wagon]

real, Sigma is obv the strongest..

[weary quarry]

But we havent seen him in action. Maybe Talon wants him for his great...pedicure routine...

[fluid oriole]

I’m so sure that he used to be a New Zealander

Being from there, I remember that being the hook to play him, no pun intended

Like I am 100% sure he was a New Zealand but they changed it

Mandela effect?

[cedar jetty]

Bro is from New Zealand. ;-;

[cedar jetty]

I think he still is considered New Zealander. Dunno. ╮(╯_╰)╭

[fluid oriole]

On overwatch wiki and stuff it says he’s Australian

[cedar jetty]

Well... Eh. We can't really know since we can't ask the devs/writers/voice actors

[cedar jetty]

More like brain-washed, genetically-changed to be impervious to cold, extremely fragile normal woman with gun and a million of fans.

[tribal eagle]

who

roadhog?

he must be australian because how would he have met JQ and rat

• he lives in the australian wasteland with them

[worthy rose]

If I remember correctly, he has a skin and/or victory pose with New Zealand theming of sorts

So maybe his family originates from there, but he lives in Australia

[spare fox]

yes the teacup in his toast victory pose and a blanket in his home have Maori symbolism on them

[peak escarp]

those patterns are Maori designs, not New Zealand

Maori is an ethnicity - they originated from New Zealand, but many Maori live elsewhere, including Australia

so it's entirely possible for Roadhog to be both Australian and Maori

[merry mason]

He could have just moved before the junkification of the outback

[golden oak]

Also the name Mako is Māori apparently

[dense nebula]

It’s Maori for shark lmao

Which means

Yes

Mako Sharks

Are canonically named

Shark sharks

[fluid oriole]

I just remember him officially being New Zealander, and now it’s changed

[cedar jetty]

hUH. Suspicious. >:I

[peak escarp]

he was never officially New Zealander

[smoky tendon]

it doesn't make sense why roadhog has an american accent despite being australian

[turbid lintel]

wasnt zarya's lore meant to be that she was almost the strongest woman alive, but the omnic crisis happened before she could compete for weightlifting and break the record

is she even old enough too live through the omnic crisis

[hushed jetty]

zarya is 30, so she was born like right before it started

i think she's referring to the second omnic crisis in russia, which is happening in present day

something about the russian omnium randomly starting back up abd pumping out mindless bloodthirsty omnics to atyack russia

[turbid lintel]

yeah that makes sense, i just havnt actually heard zaryas backstory recited in ages, was wondering if i mis-remembered it

[static acorn]

https://speedingvehicle.github.io/cow-tipper/?t=20

[dense nebula]

Kiriko has a fluent American accent despite never living outside of Japan

[worthy rose]

voice acting

[dense nebula]

Yeah I know

[worthy rose]

[spare fox]

Torb doesn't speak any Swedish despite being Swedish

[golden oak]

Kiriko’s voice acting is overall bad

[weary quarry]

She's very Americanized

But I can only take guesses as to why

[golden oak]

Not only this but also her interactions are….

Not the best

[weary quarry]

Theyre terrible. dare I say 'cringe'? Not a fan of a lot of launch ow2 interactions, but Kiri is stand out bad.

[golden oak]

Sojourn interactions were alright (although not many of those) and JQ interactions were hilarious (in a good way tho)

[weary quarry]

Junkerqueens are amazing. She's a great character

[dusk granite]

from what I hear it feels like "hey guys" "wow hi kiriko WOWWW hiiii hiii"

from the interactions I've heard atleast

[ionic summit]

One of her interactions with Genji is pretty funny. She claps at him and he claps back

[keen summit]

We dont know that

The strongest from what we know is Winston or orisa

[cedar shuttle]

Physical strength or abilities?

Because I'm ngl I feel like having gravity manipulation is a bit better than having the strength of a gorilla

[keen summit]

we dont know sigmas strength

for all we know he can only lift a few rocks

we dont know if he can just do infinite or just, a little

[cedar shuttle]

Waiting for sigma novel where he just nukes Havana

[green pendant]

what….

its obviously sigma

he can create literal black holes and manipulate gravity

also doomfist solos winston

[keen summit]

both wrong

sigma we dont know if he can on demand create it

he created it once in space with a lab

we also dont know how much gravity he manipulates

[green pendant]

have you seen the cinematic where doom literally 3v1s tracer genji and monkey

[keen summit]

doom was also beaten by one punch from winston

sigma lw sym are theoretically the strongest, however we dont know cuz we dont know the limits

[keen summit]

and winston wins with one punch?

[green pendant]

when did that happen??

[keen summit]

at the end of the same cinematic

it was always already said that winston won in one punch

that stayed

doom lost against winston, genji wasnt allowed to kill doom cuz they wanted him captured

sigma lw sym if theres no limit to them are all absolutely op

but we dont know if they have a limit

[green pendant]

i dont he did did he

from what I understand he won

that shot where he was in prison was before

[keen summit]

hence why sigma is only theoretically the strongest, cuz the only things we have seen him do in lore is lift rocks

[keen summit]

no...

[green pendant]

he got out and fought against them

[keen summit]

ill explain it

that fight

was BEFORE he got out

that fight led to him being in prison

then he got out, attacked numbani, reclaimed his gauntlet and had to retreat from orisa when he tried something again

[green pendant]

oh

[keen summit]

his origin story shows how he got in jail and how he got out

we see in a comic what happens directly after aswell

https://static.playoverwatch.com/media/comics/13/en-us/comic-overwatch-masquerade.pdf

here

[patent trench]

is Reaper immortal?

[keen summit]

kinda

hes basically constantly decomposing and healing, so yes he is immortal from what we know

[ripe wagon]

😭 nah

[worthy rose]

It's Illari, she leveled her whole village

[peak escarp]

not the whole village

Runasapi is her "village"

[worthy rose]

Then her city block or whatever haha but still as impressive

[peak escarp]

it's also not something she did on purpose or had any control over

[worthy rose]

Same with Sigma

[quartz mural]

Did Moira appear in any other comic aside from the retribution one?

[worthy rose]

which characters did moira experiment on besides reaper (i heard it in a voice line i think)?

[quartz mural]

Widowmaker and Sigma iirc

[worthy rose]

oh damn

[quartz mural]

For Sigma I'm not really sure but 100% for Widow

[worthy rose]

And the upcoming hero, according to the little info we have. She at least experimented on the tech he is using (pink crystals)

[quartz mural]

Rlly?

I thought it was that massive black blob in the laboratory

but remembering the emails between her and the other minister it makes sense that its the crystals

[keen summit]

she didnt do it alone she did it with multiple people powering her up

[rare trail]

guh

why does pink crystals mean moira

[merry mason]

I think the guy meant “the tech he is using, which is pink crystals” and not “Moira is involved, because of pink crystals”

[worthy rose]

There was some dialog about Moira experimenting witb the crystal, then in fhe teaser/map the same crystal is found everywhere, could be a possible connection

[merry mason]

Well I know about that I was just thinking that you weren’t saying Moira has an inherent connection to pink crystals that we should know about

[rare trail]

real

aside from like

weird ones like sym lw sigma illari where like

maybeee theyre really strong but we dont know

[merry token]

Illari is very strong

She literally killed her entire community because of an accident that she caused 😭

[worthy rose]

I wonder if Talon sabotaged her procedure

[merry token]

Those three are more potential than actual action

Illari has actually caused major harm from not being able to control her powers

[keen summit]

illari can be kept out, its was with help

but the others

yeah

[keen summit]

after being charged up my multiple peopl

[rare trail]

idk gang her power still has high potential

[fierce matrix]

Maybe besides star wars, I can't think of a IP that fumbled harder than Blizzard did with Overwatch lore. The initial youtube animated shorts set the expectations so high that they have never been able to return to

[keen summit]

the lore is fine still

ow is just wasted as an IP

[digital star]

Yeah, OW was even gonna have an animated series on Netflix but it got fumbled pretty bad

The lore is still good but it progresses a lot more slowly than before

[keen summit]

and offscreen cough juno, efi and orisa suddenly being in ow

[fallow mantle]

efi and orisa kinda had some buildup but yeah it woulda been nice to SEE. iirc they were picked up at the end of the orisa novel and it was further mentioned in the story from heroes ascendant

juno was just like

I AM COMING TO EARTH

comes to earth
OVERWATCH picks her up?!?!?!

[marble charm]

They knew she'd be broken

[keen summit]

i know, but i wish we had a comic where they join

[keen summit]

six, question. does toronto have anything with experimentation i cant find anything on that

cuz theres graffiti in the spawn room from the phreaks

[fallow mantle]

It appears it may be their hangout

[rare trail]

um idk gang people liked the kiriko shorts and like doom origin and sig origin was released way after

ram had very positive reception

wastelander had good reception

[nocturne solar]

is lw canonically mpreg?

[weary quarry]

[worthy rose]

Mpreg?

Sounds hot

[peak escarp]

no

[merry mason]

They contact her in her short though

[nocturne solar]

so that's just my headcanon?

[peak escarp]

your headcanons are none of our business

[nocturne solar]

that sounds salty

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel about the canon lore, not a place for headcanons

[opaque hemlock]

Does chatgpt end up becoming the omnics or echo in ow

[nocturne solar]

boohoo

[twilit patrol]

It's crazy how you need to shitpost

[merry mason]

No LLMs and AGI are two completely different things

[sly snow]

What's the lore reason behind omnics being 1 generation again?

Asking cause I don't get the difference between Omnics with the forehead dots like Zen and Ram vs AI's like Echo

[hushed jetty]

"omnics" refer to the robots built in omniums that were made sentient at the end of the omnic crisis, an event called the awakening. this event cannot be replicated, so more omnics cannot be made

echo and orisa (as far as we know) are not sentient because they were not around during the awakening

[sly snow]

Ohhh, so they're just really advanced AIs?

That lowkry a bit sad ngl

[hushed jetty]

yes

as far as we know

although imo its mostly semantics to call them "not sentient" due to how intelligeny they are anyway. i guess in the ow universe there is some specific criteria for sentience we dont know abput

[robust vector]

Maybe it's similar to pathfinder vs ash from Apex in their level of sentience

[polar garnet]

i mean pathfinder is sentient

and ash is as well but she’s a simulacrum

not really an ai

she’s just a human mind in a robot body

so it’s not quite the same

anyway

[polar garnet]

iirc echo isn’t sentient but she’s nearly

due to extensive humanlike programming

[worthy rose]

CAN WE ADD MY CAT TO THE LORE?

caps

Can we add my cat to the lore? (please)

[hoary pond]

Lore accurate ram mythic should just be him in a cat girl maid outfit and you can change the color of the cat ears

[sudden wolf]

she is, she has the same personality as the researcher who created her

[peak escarp]

that doesn't make her sentient, that just makes her a good copy

[hoary pond]

She is sentient, the ai running her was modeled after the scientist who made her. However she can form thought and express emotion, she is as sentient as a machine can get

[peak escarp]

according to Dr. Liao herself, Echo is not sentient

being able to form thoughts and express emotion isn't what makes them sentient

[hoary pond]

What makes us sentient

The ability to form thought and feel things

Ye can Google that one

[peak escarp]

the lore uses sapient different from the dictionary definition

[hoary pond]

How does one change the definition of a word with one definition;-;

[peak escarp]

the lore has rules on what is sentient and what isn't

and only the omnics that experienced the Awakening are sentient - other robots and drones and AI are not

[hoary pond]

Weird

[wind wind]

This is like the hardest question ever

When ai becomes sentient

[gritty pendant]

Anubis moment?

[dusk granite]

ik this is a super late reply, but I just wanted to say her ult voicelines suck

And the dub versions are so much better (I've only done Japan and Portuguese and they sound so much better)

they have more emotion in them

[hoary pond]

The definition of sentient is to perceive and feel things, echo does both

[merry mason]

Yeah I know it doesn’t make sense but APPARENTLY Echo still isn’t sentient

[peak escarp]

Overwatch uses "sentient" but means "sapient"

which is a different definition

[ionic summit]

I agree. It's just funny seeing Genji clap on her

[worthy rose]

Kiriko is the worst character in the game imo her lines are so cringey

[azure flint]

i've got a few tricks i've got a few tricks i've got a few tricks i've got a few tricks i've got a few tricks i've got a few tricks

[limpid cave]

😂😂

[azure flint]

do you think ashe was born with white hair

and how is that possible along with red eyes

[peak escarp]

yes

it's fictional

[dense nebula]

It’s actually a condition irl

Albinism

Or as more people would know it, being Albino

Basically your body doesn’t produce any melanin

but then again

It may just be coincidence

[spare fox]

I doubt she's albino, I think it's just an artistic choice like Juno's purple hair, Sombra's purple eyes, how 3/4 of the cast seems to be close to 7 ft tall...

[queen eagle]

Dva: how could you experiment on those cute little bunny rabbits😡

Moira: easily🗿

I fucking love ow interactions

[worthy rose]

With height, given current popular beauty standards we could begin reaching heights like those, although I’m not certain it’d be that quick from here to then

Ofc due to the Omni crisis, we could deduce taller people survived more than shorter people?

But yeah, usually looks are an artistic choice and not really for lore(like eye color, hair, etc)

[worthy rose]

Me too

[astral jetty]

Is there a reaper interaction with kiriko i forgot

I lowkey wanna know how theyd interact

[queen eagle]

Idk that one

I do know

Mei: why are you like this?
Reaper: what do you think? Overwatch

[timid obsidian]

pve dialogue if it was good

[violet sand]

reaper: death catches up to you
kiriko: it helps when death is wearing his running shoes

[patent trench]

so real

[astral jetty]

Man thats lame

[paper inlet]

That’s kiriko for you

[brisk bison]

Is it true rein is pharahs dad?

[fallow mantle]

no - her dad is a man called sam

[weary quarry]

Sam Overwatch

[peak escarp]

Sam English is his full name

he's a Canadian diplomat of First Nations ancestry

[azure flint]

sam english

bravo blizzard

[brisk bison]

An English name?

[fallow mantle]

Yes - his name is Sam English

[peak escarp]

the author of Declassified has a twitter thread explaining her choice of Sam's last name: https://x.com/seananmcguire/status/1723056396638314544

Seanan McGuire (@seananmcguire) on X

In prepping for OVERWATCH: DECLASSIFIED, I was given a lot of existing information on characters, and freedom to make up new lore to patch gaps. Ana's ex-husband, Sam, was already existing, but also fell into several gaps.

Twitter · Nov 10, 2023, 7:13 PM

tl;dr - she wanted to give him a name that didn't infringe on any unspoken rules, so she contacted some tribal orgs in BC and with their consultation, settled on the generic last name of "English"

[worthy rose]

To expand on this, do we know the particular genetics of the surviving populations?

[peak escarp]

no

[worthy rose]

Hm

Well

I'd personally go with taller people tended to survive given the heights of characters like junkrat

Or it may be an Australian survivor trait

[peak escarp]

in general, populations have been growing taller over time

[worthy rose]

Yes, I had brought that up a bit ago

[peak escarp]

even over the last 100 years the average height has gone up

so it's not that unusual that many of the heroes are 6'+

[worthy rose]

Yeah, but it's such a dramatic increase from the 6'

I mean over fifty years people's average height grew around a foot

[peak escarp]

also we don't have official heights for most of the heroes

only most of the original launch heroes

[worthy rose]

That does make sense

Although heroes like Mei or Dva look around current average/below average height

[peak escarp]

Mei and D.Va are two that we don't have official heights for

and some that we do have heights for are the height for the full model (hero plus armor/boots)

you can find the reference kits here https://blizzard.gamespress.com/en-CA/overwatch-2

(go to Misc and scroll to the bottom of the list)

[violet sand]

fr lol

[queen eagle]

I could use lucio as an arm chair

I could also use rein and orisa as an arm chair

[hoary pond]

Baby dva is 5’1-2 Mei is 5’2-4

[queen eagle]

Mfs really thought chivalry is dead

[astral jetty]

I need a voiceline where he beats her up NOW /silly

[queen eagle]

Voicelines are just words

Idiot

You can't just have a voiceline where you do an action and deal damage

[spare fox]

watch that be a feature in OW3

[queen eagle]

For 59.99

[spare fox]

Well they'll advertise it as a feature but never deliver and instead just take away souvenirs and uhhh player icons

[queen eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/writethatdown-gif-5313946

Blizzard

[fallow mantle]

Wait until the Skyrim collab...

[cunning sail]

what is ana's nano boost? like how does she launch it or what launches it?

[weary quarry]

She has a launcher on her left arm

[cunning sail]

i see

[marble charm]

Yea just on the arm

But even though she doesn't pull it out to nano you could just say "it's on the sleep gun"

[somber terrace]

yeah she does

do you not see it

youre powered up

her arm gets fired back

[stone wharf]

yall how does dva have infinite shotgun shells

[azure flint]

dva?

you mean ashe?

[merry token]

Just a game mechanic and not real in lore most likely

[dim grotto]

yo, is the morse code ont hat snow map new'?

[peak escarp]

no it's been there since the map was added

it's an SOS for the icebreaker ship that got stuck in the ice

[dim grotto]

Thanks, trying to figure out some freak lore if i can but i just never noticed that before for some reason lol

[peak escarp]

the icebreaker was sent by Overwatch to save Mei's team, but it ended up getting stuck and needing rescuing itself

and Mei's team was never saved

[fallow mantle]

The Peninsula freaks me tf out. The horrible ominous sounds from that one door, and the morse code... Morse code just freaks me out

[spare fox]

Some of it is easter eggs, like the axe in the wall is an homage to The Thing, I'm pretty sure

[ionic summit]

axe in the wall? sounds more like The Shining to me

[merry mason]

It’s energy based and powered by her mech

[spare fox]

No it's The Thing- it takes place in Antarctica and in one movie there's an ominous axe in the wall and in a subsequent movie we find out why/how

[golden oak]

It’s a syringe shot at the target

Or maybe something like a dart

It uses mercy’s nanobiotic tech
So basically it’s like steroids lol

[cedar jetty]

If you play Ana and Nano Boost someone, you do see her arm (her left arm) pulling into frame then getting shot back by the force of the dart, then it goes off-screen again. T_T

[cedar jetty]

To me it's like a serum that goes through the blood to the brain and increases the physical/gun force. Eh, just my point of view. T^T

[golden oak]

I’d say it makes ur muscles stronger, focus better (damage boost) and also makes ur skin and muscles more resistant (dmg reduction)

[cedar jetty]

Mhm. All that. But not really StErOiDs. ;-;

[golden oak]

But it’s obviously a sci-fi thing with little or no explanation how it works

[golden oak]

That was a joke

[cedar jetty]

Well... If you were to make a guess and make it make sense.
It could work. ╮(╯_╰)╭

[cedar jetty]

aH, Mb.

[safe pike]

👨‍🦯‍➡️

[faint hamlet]

Does anyone know why soldier warned Gerard about widowmaker I heard a voice line about it, what made him warn Gerard

[spare fox]

Maybe there were relationship issues, or at least ones perceived by soldier

[merry token]

Could’ve also just been a playful jab that later turned serious

[spare fox]

Idk but there had to be something. She claims she loved Gerard but something had to have happened to turn her from happy wife to literal cold killer

It says she was kidnapped by Talon, but possibly that's not the whole story

[merry token]

They did neural conditioning on her im p sure

Unless they do a massive lore drop later, it doesn’t seem like she had any negative qualms with him

Like normally

[spare fox]

They did but nothing was detected medically psychologically after she was returned

My theory: her bio says the two great loves of her life are ballet and Gerard. I suspect that Gerard over time became a little too obsessed with Talon and became more "married to his job" and she became resentful and possibly felt abandoned by him. This made her more susceptible to the conditioning

A deeper cut, plot twist theory is that she became so resentful that she actually reached out to Talon herself

I'm not much of an armchair psychologist but her not feeling unless she kills thing sounds like BPD to me so an abandonment in her past would make sense if that's the case

[native lion]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP88WoeyF/

[peak escarp]

the whole point of a sleeper agent is that they're undetectable until activated

[polar garnet]

^

well i wouldn’t say activated is the right word

moreso ordered

but yeah

[worthy rose]

Nah activated can be accurate

MK Uktra

Ultra*

[spare fox]

it depends - we don't know how it worked

[sacred matrix]

if you hold the information, you hold all the cards…

[keen summit]

Ngl the next tank could be emre, we dont know what happened to him iirc so what if he was experimented on after something happened and then well, was covered up cuz nobody could know the outcome

But cant remember if our last account of him was after moira was kicked out

[native current]

New Grandpa to Game!!!

[spare fox]

If it is Emre, he'd not necessarily be "grandpa" age - he could possibly be in his 40s - a little older than Cassidy based on the Ana origin story photo in which he looks young

[golden oak]

Are we sure Ingrid didn’t cheat? (Joke)

[native current]

She just a lot time with rein thats why haha

[native current]

Its still Cool I guess
On Ana video Photo he looks Cool
I wish they kept it

[peak escarp]

Emre isn't Scottish

[keen summit]

fair fair

is that just based on the name or was it outright said?

[peak escarp]

one of the only things we know about Emre is that he's from Turkey - that's why he was picked for the White Dome mission

[keen summit]

ah yeah i forgot then, thanks six

that thing was one of those i didnt read myself so didnt know if it was assumed or stated

[golden oak]

Wild how we don’t have even one male hero that’s in early 20s

[keen summit]

uh yeah wow

[worthy rose]

The tank isn't Emre lol thats a desperate grasp

[keen summit]

we have so many female heroes

for early 20s

[worthy rose]

He's scottish, part of the Phreaks, with purple crystals

Female heroes sell

[keen summit]

only the first part disproves it

[worthy rose]

We need more Omnics

[keen summit]

the other two are both possible

[worthy rose]

It aint happenin buddy lol

[keen summit]

mate i just acknowledged that

i dont even want emre

hence why i didnt even know for sure if he was turkish

[worthy rose]

He's a turk

[keen summit]

yeah, which six just said

and i acknowledged

[worthy rose]

Not even sure what his kit would be, we know nothing about him

Relax bro lol

Another sniper

Hanzo + Widow

[keen summit]

my current theory on em is simply that the phreaks are experimented on humans and that this one was experimented on by moira