lore-discussion

[peak escarp]

we see it in Reunion

[azure flint]

i see

how many ults have we seen in the lore so far

i know a few like genji blade, hanzo dragon, tracer pulse bomb

[peak escarp]

Ashe, Baptiste, Cassidy, D.Va, Doomfist, Genji, Hanzo, Junker Queen, Kiriko, Mercy, Pharah, Reaper, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Sojourn, Soldier, Sombra, Tracer, Widowmaker, Winston, Wrecking Ball, Zarya

plus Orisa's old ult

oh also Lucio

[azure flint]

where do you see pharah ult

[peak escarp]

New Blood #5

[azure flint]

kewl

you got anything lore-y setup to answer anytime someone asks anything abt it lol

[peak escarp]

pretty much

I'm not the Lore Warlord for nothing

[azure flint]

true

[golden oak]

I want that outfit in game

[native current]

Who is the youngest person from male cast?
I was think that Lucio have 21 but its written that he have 28....

[wet lotus]

isnt the youngest junkrat or am i wrong

IDEK MYSELF

[native current]

In Female cast the youngest is
Illari (18) And Juno (19)
Kiriko age is Joke we all know that she fakes her age

[merry token]

Wrecking ball at 16

[native current]

With this logic Orisa is youngest becouse she have one year
We talk about humans..

And he is pretty old in hamstee years

Lol

[merry token]

Wrecking ball isn’t an omnic though

You just generally asked for the youngest male, didn’t specify lifespan relatively lol

Or, no

It’s Junkrat

Junkrat is the youngest male human character at 27

[native current]

Thank you

[wet lotus]

i was right then omg

see ik my junkrat facts hes peak

[merry token]

Lucio is pretty close, he’s a year older than Junkrat though lol

[rapid mountain]

Lucio and Junkrat

Lucio is 28? And Junkrat is 27?

Which is crazy how we don’t have a human male under the age of 25

[azure flint]

another hero whos 18 this time a guy

[native current]

Thats pretty strange tho

[rapid mountain]

Yeah

Have 5 humans female under the age of 25 (Well I guess Brig is 25)

[native current]

Juno illari Kiriko Diva and hm

[rough hull]

Doom strongest

[native current]

Lol (*)

[native current]

Mercy vs Moira
In fight who would win?

[peak escarp]

Moira

[native current]

-20000 Aura to Mercy

[dusk granite]

yo what is that thing on doomfist's chest on the top left (or right if you're looking at the image of him)

is it a button

[spare fox]

We don't really know but it's probably something to do with cybernetic prosthetics

Most heroes and characters with cybernetics have them but some we haven't seen

[random elbow]

Easily moira

[undone acorn]

Can moira hawk tua

Is the real question

[safe pike]

hi

[polar garnet]

!!!shitposting

fuck

how do i get the funny budget moderator command

[weary quarry]

Think its 2 !!

[polar garnet]

!!shitposting

nvm

[weary quarry]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[weary quarry]

Guess you need regular role

[azure flint]

lol

[clear kite]

anyone else getting random disconnects saying "lost connection to game server"? i keep getting it every game and i dont wanna get entire season ban

[past copper]

Alright, get excited folks

The Spellbinder trailer drops tomorrow

[merry mason]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that lifeweaver will get the mythic

[past copper]

I’m telling you, it’s gonna be a tank

Literally two supports n two dps already got mythic skins back to back

[quartz mural]

Ten moira skins me thinks

[pliant berry]

moira lw dva mei and like torb or sm fr

[loud marsh]

I wish

But no next is tank

We already had 2 supp and 2 dps. Now is tank

[rough hull]

my fault g torbjorn is

[ember venture]

I'm loosing my fking mind on this story mode, can someone help me with the second level please, I beg😭😭😆

[past copper]

Bro… story mode isn’t hard. But if you got nothing but bots…

[grave arch]

How do you do storymode btw i tried before but it wouldnt connect me

[spare fox]

it waits for a few minutes to try to match you to anyone else playing, however not many are playing. What you should do is team up with friends or post in one of the LFG channels to get at least another teammate to play through them with you

[grave arch]

Thank you Winton

[native current]

Storymode should be solo game imo

[twilit patrol]

I agree tbh

[sweet shore]

Didn’t even realize there’s a story mode

[spare fox]

here's hoping the next time they make a story mode/pve that it's solo-able

it probably won't happen in the near future but maybe sometime eventually...

[sweet shore]

Does anything ever get done by Blizzard or do they milk us for $10 skins per character

[spare fox]

sure things could be better but it's hardly the dystopian situation you're making it out to be... it's a FREE live service, frequently balanced game and you get a handful of cosmetics for free each season. You get the whole core game and then some for free, no need to spend a penny...

[sweet shore]

I wasn’t serious

[spare fox]

ok then what was your point?

[sweet shore]

Sarcasm

[fallow mantle]

PHREAKZ 🗣️

[golden oak]

Not me clocking the new tank will be phreak a year ago

[hushed jetty]

did they announce him,m

?

oh my god there was a post credits sequence

HE'S FUCKING SCOTTISH

[pliant berry]

non of yall guessed that widow would be in hte new bp lol

[hushed jetty]

OH MY GODDDDD

[golden oak]

So he’s Scottish but the graffiti reminded me of los muertos one

[stray raptor]

reworked ||McCloud||?

[golden oak]

And why is he in oasis

[merry mason]

I owe an apology to all the people who said they would bring back titan characters

[golden oak]

Phreak was also in those concepts

[pliant berry]

chat do you guys think phreaks is freaky

[keen summit]

I knew i heard the name somewhere

[hushed jetty]

i just KNOW im gonna love him
they usually cook with tank lore

[keen summit]

do we know

what this is for

[golden oak]

I always wondered what this thing was, ig now we know

[keen summit]

do we though

cuz he mightve just destroyed it

[golden oak]

Was phreak trapped in there?

[keen summit]

i doubt it

seems more like he thrashed the place cuz he had graffiti n stuff, tech graffity

[golden oak]

I mean it’s moira’s lab and she can do weird stuff to humans

[keen summit]

can someone here speak arabic

[golden oak]

If you want that for the computers there I already checked that long time ago

There was nothing interesting

[keen summit]

damn

[golden oak]

Written there

[keen summit]

it seems like ferro liquid, which makes sense

hm

[golden oak]

Okay let’s say he just wrecked that place

Is he going after Moira then?

For revenge or something

[hushed jetty]

hard to tell
he said something aboug a revolution

and notably the graffiti says Phreaks which could potentially be ghe name of a group or somethibg?

[keen summit]

maybe hes against talon being big chummies with leaders

[merry mason]

Yeah the lore was probably redone. I bet the guys name isn’t Phreak but he is a member of the Phreaks

[opaque tundra]

bruh adding something new does not mean lore has been redone

[golden oak]

Another fraction, Why am I not surprised

[opaque tundra]

its most likely something was set up and the new writers are doing something with it

[keen summit]

what if phreaks are people who got experimented on?

[merry mason]

Like whatever original lore for phreak which was from like, the project titan era

[keen summit]

IM SO HAPPY WE CAN SPECULATE!

[merry mason]

I know I missed this

[keen summit]

so we are talking with one of my friends. it has alot of snake like things, notice how the letters all have kinda snaking things

and with the mohawk on the letters

so what if, phreaks are outcast through their looks or mutations.

[weary quarry]

Their icon in that one pic has a massive jaw

[keen summit]

that they were experimented on

[hushed jetty]

could akso be a helmet

[keen summit]

i meant for the rest

i think theres some merit on maybe experimented on humans, nicknamed the phreaks

cuz his doodle, didnt look completely human

and now all this snake image stuff

[hushed jetty]

idk if id necessarily calld it snake imagery on the letters, that might just be the graffiti style
but the thing on the wall next to it definitely is

[spare fox]

wonder if this is a Moira experiment or if this is the creation/result from a different party

I also wonder how many years this spawn room is going to be wrecked, as long as Numbani airport?

[pliant berry]

miles morales

[fallow mantle]

GNOME TORBJORN FINALLY

i'm in the wrong channel again oops 💀

[jagged ermine]

......

....

[quaint badge]

I'm thinking Phreak's gonna be an anarchist who's not aligned with any one group we know of currently.

[past copper]

I wonder if it's related to the mystery mohawk guy from Talon

[hushed jetty]

theres a talon mohawk guy?

[past copper]

Someone sitting on the council

Can't see his face though

[merry token]

Gnarly among us

[steep sentinel]

Yep I was thinking that too. It’s probably a faction of people who have been experimented on in oasis or maybe even the mutations from the outback

[past copper]

It could be Emre here

Or whoever the mohawk guy sitting on the bottom of the image

Considering where it is, might be the Talon guy, who has a connection of sorts to Moira

Still think the guy on Talon is Emre tho. They look the same

[keen summit]

well...

when was the last record of emre?

what if moira eventually.. experimented on him

[spare fox]

so wait are you theorizing that Emre and Phreak/new tank are one and the same?

[past copper]

It's not am impossible thought

We don't know if Moira had other volunteers to experiment on beyond herself or Gabriel

[merry mason]

And I wouldn’t be surprised if she does

[past copper]

Considering that Oasis is where Moira is connected and this tank is connected too

But it's just a guess

Definitely his hair style on the graffiti

[sullen girder]

So you mean to tell me that the new hero has been in oasis this whole time?

[grand wedge]

Looks like it

[safe pike]

🎣.

[candid helm]

Mo(hawk)

[keen summit]

we dont know that, just that he trashed the place

[spare fox]

Looks like part of his abilities involves those purple crystals

If Emre is the new hero with the Scottish accent, then it's cool that he's another hero descended from immigrants (Turkish-Scottish)

Love that they're still embracing multicultural-national heroes if that's the case

[void ledge]

Good day. Can someone tell me about the lore regarding the Ferrofluid Thingie in the Phreak Teaser?

[grand wedge]

There is none. It was just there and people have wondered for years what it could be. Maybe we’ll finally get an answer next season.

[spare fox]

Plus the new tank's name would have to fall between S and W alphabetically (but only if he didn't have a different production name)

[pastel venture]

Can anyone tell me what mercy’s store is

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[peak escarp]

apparently their indev name is Spiker

they're very unlikely to be Emre

[golden oak]

I feel like phreaks faction will be like a mix between junkers and los Muertos

[golden oak]

It’s not possible since emre is Turkish and phreak is Scottish

[exotic scaffold]

leo senpai

tg

[polar garnet]

i hope so lol

id love that aesthetic

[void ledge]

Ah ok thanks

[void ledge]

Maybe emre mutated? (Lil joke)

[spare fox]

Emre is a Turkish name but he could be from anywhere

[tranquil orbit]

lets be fr tho we've not come all this way just to get our first turkish character denied and voiced by a scottish person

like there is technically a super narrow possibility but i think it's so unlikely

[broken moat]

if phreak is not scottish im ending my life

[broken moat]

who the fuck would guess they were a turk??

[peak escarp]

he was specifically chosen for the White Dome mission because he knew Istanbul

it's implied he lived there

[spare fox]

Ah ok, I was really just brainstorming I'm not like dead set on the idea

[broken moat]

thank god hes seemingly Scottish

[cloud harness]

HAVANA'S NEW MAP CHANGES HAVE LORE

Use this slideshow to see the before/after: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1D6jGhQjHW8ZdhgpxNvTMDMN4VOI_hDEh52_Cy_4uheE/edit?usp=sharing

1. The payload has changed. Instead of carrying a few barrels of Dom Robotico, we now have some sort of equipment in the bed of the pickup truck.
2. There is a new prop outside the Opera house, an upside-down sign. This reminds me of the anti-omnic signs and graffiti on King's Row
3. There are random doors on second point that lead to nowhere. In Storm Rising, those doors were used for Talon soldier spawns. Despite the map geometry being massive changes, they doors were relocated to fit with the new geometry. It is possible that Storm Rising is being retro-fitted for a New Havana
4. Most damning, the Havana Fort at the end of the map is now covered in satellite dishes, security cameras, and A MASSIVE TALON LOGO FRONT AND CENTER

Clearly there is some more story going on in Havana, and with a PvE mission confirmed to have been planned to be there (something with Maximillian, from dev video during 2021;s virtual Blizzcon), it is possible that these assets are being slowly re-used and shown off in the main game.

[tranquil orbit]

some ppl cant look past the mohawk lmao 😭

i think in general we just need to be used to it being fairly common on a lot of characters

but yh i think we'll see emre properly and in the flesh next year

[hallow plover]

cant wait to see tank phreak offs

[keen summit]

next year?

IF hes emre, we would see him in s13 already cuz trial

[keen summit]

maybe, im still guessing it might be legit an experimented on faction

'im just REALLY happy we finally have teasers again, making us speculate

thats fun

if he was like i speculated experimented on by moira... well irish vs scottish

[tulip axle]

will those peak movie style animations for ow characters ever come back?

[keen summit]

its said they might, we dont know though

last "cinematic" esque thing was for juno

[proper ibex]

Maybe experimented on by Moira?

[keen summit]

thats my theory

im thinking phreaks is a name for mutant / experimented on people that made a group

[tulip axle]

what I'm really asking is if we're going to get a cinematic like the Hanzo/Kiriko/Rein etc...

those were peak

[keen summit]

cuz also all that snake imagery

[proper ibex]

Yea I seen like in the corner

[keen summit]

i know, they said in roadmap for s7 and beyond, cinematics

[proper ibex]

I genuinely can’t wait to see the character, he really seems cool

When I first saw the concept art I really assumed he could be someone from junker town

Seeing that is we already have three people from it 🤔

[keen summit]

i assumed junker or los muertos

but this is way better

another junker tank would get really dumb

i really hope im right about the hero

[azure flint]

what are the chances of the new guy being emre

[keen summit]

eh i think 40/60 for not being him

[polar garnet]

oh lord these changes are bigger than i expected

thatll be fun to see ingame

[keen summit]

i mean, maybe cuz phreak already attacked moiras lab we will see more hints on more places

poster changed too

[grand wedge]

Oh yeah, Unity Day ❤️

[past copper]

You know, I think there’s a missed opportunity in the Halloween event

Dullahan Moira would have gone hard

[keen summit]

we know they dont want to give heroes skins of their own culture

[proper ibex]

Blizzard is a little lazy as you know 😪

I’m ngl Phreak gives me sort of Junkrat vibes, like what if he’s reckless but very smart

[keen summit]

mauga 2

we really got 0 clue yet

all we know for now is snake imagery and probs mohawk

and ofcourse PUNK

[proper ibex]

Oops wrong channel

[tepid rivet]

Does anyone have the pic of the new juno skin ?

[proper ibex]

The mha one? Should be in overwatch chat somewhere, someone had posted it

[tepid rivet]

Yeah I seen it last night but can’t find it now 😦

[proper ibex]

Have you tried going to the media section in the overwatch text channel?

[halcyon prism]

We got some early stuff

Phreak is apart of the early project titan characters

But still his kit could have been massively overhauled

[dark mica]

I am exited for 6v6 test

[halcyon prism]

I’m 50/50 on it

[peak escarp]

that isnt lore

[keen summit]

yeah, they already changed gender too, and its like 20 years old

[halcyon prism]

Also my faction is phreak apart of

[peak escarp]

Phreaks is the faction

we don't know the hero's name, but their development codename is Spiker

[halcyon prism]

Ooh

Interesting

What was there early kit?

[wheat maple]

Cannon, stomp, attract

[past copper]

Supposedly the last hero of the year

Don’t know what others will be released next year

But I’d appreciate more Talon heroes honestly

[jagged ermine]

girl gold comp +16

[woven jewel]

What is phreak

[proper ibex]

The graffiti on the wall it’s a faction supposedly

[woven jewel]

Interesting

[white cobalt]

this is so stretched theory i feel https://x.com/HazeletOW/status/1844776858815971432

Hazelet (@HazeletOW) on X

Crazy speculation... hear me out...
Sombra telling S76 to go to Oasis to find more on the Conspiracy...
Phreaks (IF they're a group tied to Paris) are at Oasis...
and this door on Paris says "We are watching you" with Omnics watching from the darkness..
Similar to the Conspiracy

Twitter · Oct 11, 2024, 4:27 PM

[golden oak]

I think it’s somehow linked to the iris so it’s possible

[white cobalt]

it´s supposed the spiky balls on Oasis related to Phreaks?

[proper ibex]

Do you think that Phreaks are with the Omnics?

[spare fox]

The teaser at the trailer end is talking about a revolution, question is what are they revolting against?

I'm sure once s13 drops there will be datamined voicelines - that will either give us more clues or confuse us more

[proper ibex]

My thing is with the whole Phreaks Revolution, will it be tied with the onmics cause yk their whole thing but I guess time will tell 🤔

[spare fox]

My instinct is against omnics but I also feel like they already did the anarchist anti-omnic thing with Junkers

Though it does seem they've toned down the Junkers' stance against omnics since ow2

They've soft-retconned it a bit: even in the jq song she faught "feral" omnics

And i don't recall any of the Junkers having explicitly anti-omnic voicelines or chatter since ow2

[snow fractal]

I hate Phreak

I wanna kill Phreak

Phreak deserves the death penalty

[fallow mantle]

Bit phreaky of you cole

[pliant berry]

last time we got that was like Swedish brig

[white cobalt]

https://fixupx.com/lifegrippy/status/1844519051894149429

[spare fox]

Yeah probably assets from the scrapped PvE 😩 trying to justify the resources spent on making them rather than rotting away on a drive somewhere

[pliant berry]

or resources from said scrapped PvE rotting away on a drive somewhere so they put the asset in somewhere to free that harddrive lmao

[past copper]

Again, they have not confirmed that PvE is scrapped or cancelled

Just that the continuation is uncertain

[flint rivet]

I hold out hope they're rolling it out slowly

[past copper]

And from both the looks and sound of things, they’ve got more on team 4 now

Which means there’s growing opportunity to continue PvE

[broken stratus]

Just let it go bru its over 😂😂😂

[peak escarp]

there's no harm in hanging on to it

let him have hope

[wintry schooner]

https://www.udio.com/songs/hB3j7dmWn1cK2cwGYVT8rz

[golden oak]

Talon would not explicitly label their base like that

[spare fox]

Ehh OW takes A LOT of archetypes and various inspo from super hero stories so maybe they're leaning into that lol

[golden oak]

Ok but look at other talon bases we have in the game

They don’t have a big ass logo in the front, only inside

[spare fox]

ig but they don't really have the writing team to manage these things anymore so the assets are just gonna go where they go

[worthy rose]

so apparently dungeons and dragons can actually exist inside of overwatch 2?

[peak escarp]

why not?

[golden oak]

Idk maybe because they’re a criminal organisation

[peak escarp]

they're a criminal organization in the equivalent of a superhero cartoon

their boss is a guy named Doomfist

I don't think it's past them to put a giant logo on a building they own

[past copper]

Honestly, I think the only reason for the change is that something will be coming to the game at some point

Keep in mind Havana has both an archive mission and was gonna have a mission similar to the King’s Row story mission

So maybe we’re looking at a hint of something story related being set up

Especially since this season, they’re having what is equivalent to the scrapped talent trees used for Junkenstein’s Laboratory

[golden oak]

I hope so

So much resources were put into the pve missions it would be a shame for all of it to go to waste

[worthy rose]

I could swear they said no more PvE stuff

It's been how long since they dropped the mission pack

[twilit patrol]

August 2023

So more than a year

[spare fox]

Nope they have said absolutely nothing about it continuing but

1. They fired the whole pve team as well as most of the writing team
2. The director of the OW franchise announced the game at Blizzcon 2023 specifically as a "PvP game"

So it probably isn't officially canceled but they have likely cleared it from their pipeline

[golden oak]

Maybe they will bring back archives

[spare fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/180857715109789697/1294724116880031865/FB_IMG_1728756652659.jpg?ex=670c0d4c&is=670abbcc&hm=664a15167f4b1f562f0e4fbcf3d8ecda8538dce0448f28255e512078add28292&

Hopefully there's another road map or at least interview stream soon

[twilit patrol]

I think there should be one road map per year

[spare fox]

Mhm and the last one was Blizzcon 23 right?

These map reworks are the end of the last road map iirc

[twilit patrol]

I remember they dropped a road map in season 4 but not at Blizzcon

[spare fox]

Ohh I was considering the whole Blizzcon presentation a road map as they outlined everything coming up for 2024 thru season 13

[verbal shell]

is it true that they retconned gency

[spare fox]

No

[haughty bluff]

anyone else feel like pharahs the daughter of rein.

or that was the rough draft of the plan

then they made pharah native american descent

[verbal shell]

thank the lord

[rare trail]

what

ana isnt native american

her ex husband is native canadian

ana is egyptian iirc

[haughty bluff]

i meant pharah my bad

[opaque talon]

whos the most powerful lore wise?

sigma?

[rare trail]

complicated question

so like

just based of things they've actually like done

[pseudo trellis]

Hello peopleeee

[rare trail]

orisa and winston have both beaten doomfist

so those two are at the top

[pseudo trellis]

Wat are we talking about in here

[opaque talon]

where would sigma rank in that

[rare trail]

then lifeweaver and symmetra have like hardlight which is theoretically very powerufl but we havent seen it do much

and its very unclear what exactly sigmas power level is

[pseudo trellis]

Sigma is a god amongst children lore wise

[rare trail]

hes like

[rare trail]

❌

sigma has done

like nothing power wise

he floated like a sphere once

[pseudo trellis]

He shoots fckin black holes

[rare trail]

no in lore he doesnt

tons of game abilities arent in lore

[opaque talon]

is rez in lore?

[rare trail]

not really

most people call what mercy did to mei in zero hour ressurect but i think thats an awful misleading and confusing name for it

[opaque talon]

is roadhog hook in lore

[pseudo trellis]

Is dva’s bomb equivalent to a nuke lore wise?

[opaque talon]

I doubt it

nukes are crazy

And radioactive, I feel like that would be like, outlawed or smoething

[rare trail]

yeah

[rare trail]

nah

it was shown in shooting star

[opaque talon]

What's in roadhogs vape?

[rare trail]

hogdrogen

[opaque talon]

https://tenor.com/view/roadhog-gif-16812370991692922337

[candid helm]

I don't think Sigma is the most broken character because I don't think Jeff Kaplan thought about powers to a far extent , I think he can only use physics powers ( gravity ) to a certain limit and the proof is that there are broken abilities like Tracer's chronal-accelerator ( time manipulation ) or Ilari ( the power of sun )

[peak escarp]

not this again

[candid helm]

And there is zarya's particle canon that can shoot black holes ._.

[peak escarp]

it doesn't shoot black holes

it shoots Graviton bombs

[candid helm]

They call it black holes tho

[peak escarp]

where?

[candid helm]

I think im wrong forget about zarya (:

[candid helm]

But in general

[peak escarp]

power scaling or realism wasnt considered at all during hero creation

they just want powers that look cool and feel powerful

[opaque talon]

Maybe not but its still fun to be curious.

[peak escarp]

their power levels are also subject to the plot

[haughty bluff]

they needed an army of orisas to beat doomfist and it took tracer genji and an enraged winston

[opaque talon]

dont doubt the monkee

[peak escarp]

Reaper is a terrifying near-unkillable threat... unless the plot means he has to lose to Winston

[peak escarp]

Genji barely did anything in that fight

[haughty bluff]

science wise zarya shoots a beam hotter then the sun. lore wise ram doom and sigma. ram cause hes leading a violent revolution doom cause hes setting up total war and sigma cause hes the most insane.

[peak escarp]

Doomfist took him out in one hit

[opaque talon]

are we still talking about lore or just genji players in general? /s

[haughty bluff]

true but he was there

he slashed and swinged

[peak escarp]

so was Tracer, you didn't mention her

[haughty bluff]

i did ]

?

[peak escarp]

oh oops

my bad

I can't read

[candid helm]

So you agree with me about sigma ?

[opaque talon]

Does tracer chrono accelerator imply that time travel is possible in lore?

[peak escarp]

what about Sigma

[haughty bluff]

zarya beats sigma

if you apply real world physics

[peak escarp]

Tracer doesn't time travel, she reverses/fast forwards her personal time

[rare trail]

no they didnt, read hero of numbani
tracer and genji werent helpful and were out of commission so it was just doom v winston

[peak escarp]

she can't move outside her lifetime

[haughty bluff]

it can or cant be

[rare trail]

theres only 1 orisa

[opaque talon]

Can u elaborate more by personal time?

[candid helm]

My long message above ._.

[peak escarp]

think of it like the timeline on a video

[haughty bluff]

tracer dying cause winston to go insane and in overwatch going insane makes you stronger/s

[peak escarp]

you can fast forward or rewind, but you're limited by the start and end of the video

same goes for Tracer

[candid helm]

How is that ?

[haughty bluff]

1 original orisa theres a whole army of other models

[peak escarp]

time moves normally for everyone around her

[haughty bluff]

a beam hotter then the sun and shoots black holes

[candid helm]

Is that in lore ?

[peak escarp]

if Zarya's beam was hotter than the sun it would kill everyone around when she used it

including her

[opaque talon]

yeah if it was that hot wouldnt she just be the most powerful by a far margin

[haughty bluff]

its described as a physics beam. and it being white means its hotter then the sun

[peak escarp]

how does that make sense?

[candid helm]

Just like sigma's gravity or illari's sun power

[peak escarp]

it's an energy beam

[opaque talon]

The color of a star is not only determined by its temperature.

[peak escarp]

it's not a star

[opaque talon]

the main thing is the chemical composition of the star

[candid helm]

Or tracer being so op bc she can manipulate time

[opaque talon]

I know that Im just responding to them stating that the beam being white means its hotter than the sun

[peak escarp]

lasers can also be white and they're not hotter than the sun

[haughty bluff]

illaris sun is weak compared to others

[opaque talon]

yeah the color of any flame is not solely determined by temperature

[haughty bluff]

its not a star but its hotter then one if you apply real physics

[peak escarp]

it's science fiction

[haughty bluff]

not arguing in lore

[candid helm]

I know but it should be SUN right ? Just like any other power its not literal

[opaque talon]

what are the physics?

[peak escarp]

real world physics don't necessarily apply in scifi

[haughty bluff]

no cause a sun is a reactor and zaryas beam isnt its just a particle canon

zaryas beam seemingly runs on nothing

[haughty bluff]

you are moving particles so fast and so hot they are a white beam

[opaque talon]

So particle acceleration is not necessarily vaporizing whatever it hits. We use particle accelerators in the treatment of cancers.

[rare trail]

orisa is built off an or15, there is only 1 orisa, there are many or15s, doomfist fought and won against a bunch of or15s and lost to orisa

[opaque talon]

Momma robot always wins

[haughty bluff]

still took an army of or15s and orisa and he still got the fist

[candid helm]

The point is you shouldn't think that the lore team thought of all that

[haughty bluff]

yeah i agree

[opaque talon]

Where does roadhog rank in terms of power?

[haughty bluff]

about reaper level he is a mutant

[candid helm]

Top 1 ofc

He's the GOAT

[opaque talon]

Is roadhog an actual pig?

[candid helm]

Sort of

[haughty bluff]

the wanted poster of his face was made based of a description and not an official model

[rare trail]

what

have you read hero of numbani

[haughty bluff]

nope doomfist on top

[opaque talon]

who is the weakest lore-wise?

[summer obsidian]

juno

[opaque talon]

cass? literally just a guy with a gun? lol

ooo

[summer obsidian]

wrecking ball if u don’t count

his mech thing

[opaque talon]

nah id say they come as a package deal

[summer obsidian]

ya so juno

she’s literally a medic who’s scared to help people lore wise

she dosent even have a gun lore wise

[rare trail]

mei or zen iirc

[rare trail]

ehhh

[opaque talon]

Would zen fight in lore?

[grand wedge]

Juno

[peak escarp]

Mercy can lift concrete slabs due to her Valkyrie suit

Tracer might be weak physically, but she's fast and combat trained

weakest I'd say Juno and Mei

Zenyatta is an omnic, which makes him stronger than any non-augmented human

[opaque talon]

Yes but would Zenyatta fight lore-wise?

[spare fox]

He's not a pacifist

[azure flint]

does every hero rely on external stuff to get their "powers"

[opaque talon]

Cree doesn’t I think

[spare fox]

It literally varies from hero to hero

[opaque talon]

Does the shit roadhog breaths in damage his brain?

[wet lotus]

i always wondered the same thing cause what is he breathing in😭😭😭

[azure flint]

the zaza

[spare fox]

It counteracts the radiation, apparently

I love the Moira-Hog interaction about it

"No thank you, I'll just observe"

[magic python]

isnt it bacon flavor?

nvm..

does rat even have powers?

[peak escarp]

just grenades

[magic python]

no mutations? just bombs?

[peak escarp]

nope

most heroes don't have "powers"

just weapons

[magic python]

now that i think about it your right

[peak escarp]

I would only consider Echo, Illari, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Reaper, Sigma, Sombra, Symmetra, Tracer, Winston and Zenyatta to have "powers"

the rest are just very skilled or have powerful weapons

[magic python]

wait what does winston have

[peak escarp]

rage powers

[magic python]

ohhhh yea

forgot about that

what about hanzo?

religion power thing

ult/storm arrows

[peak escarp]

comes from his weapon

same with Genji, although Genji does have cyborg abilities

so him, Sojourn and Doomfist can be added to the list

[woven jewel]

Wouldn't Echo also just be very advanced weaponry

[peak escarp]

I did include Echo

[magic python]

I thought it came from the fact of the dragons?

[peak escarp]

the short story Where Honor Lives implies that the spirit dragons come from their weapons

and isn't the same as Kiriko's fox

[magic python]

Thats intresting i just thiught other wise because in thr animated short it says only a shimada csn controll the dragons..

maybe i just took i wrong?

[peak escarp]

because only the Shimada have spirit weapons - they're made for the Shimada clan by Kiriko's father

[magic python]

How does religion work in ow

Because i feel like genji hanzo and kiri all belive in their religion

but what abour people like mercy?

who prolly belive diff

is the shimada religion just correct?

like… what

[peak escarp]

religion works the same as it does in the real world

Kiriko just has a fox spirit

Genji and Hanzo don't worship the fox spirit

[queen eagle]

Canonically, is overwatch all good and heroic or does it have some controversy?

[peak escarp]

it has a lot of controversy

they had the Blackwatch division, which carried out illegal missions of kidnapping, assassination, espionage, etc.

[queen eagle]

And in honour and glory

Brigitte said that they let Reinhardt go despite all hes done for them

[native current]

Eee guys Justy friend said that
Cass is Sexist and Racist....?

Never read about this but maybe u know

[merry token]

No 😭

[native current]

FR GIRL

[alpine sable]

Anyone have any info on the New character Phreaks?

[queen eagle]

No

[grand wedge]

Just theories

[queen eagle]

He might have a metal jaw

And a green mohawk

It was an old concept

[twilit patrol]

I think he might have a shell ?

[native current]

We need Animatic about Illari

Why?

Why not

[queen eagle]

Does junkrat and roadhog count as evil?

Junkrat seems like a nice guy

[native current]

He is psychopath and maniac

HE KILLED A LOT POEPLE

[queen eagle]

Junkrat gone woke

I didn't know hes a girl

[native current]

And bombed whole Tower

[queen eagle]

Ok but

[native current]

SHe changed teams💖

[queen eagle]

G'day mate

[native current]

Thx

[queen eagle]

Why did they make them act so chill tho

[twilit patrol]

I don’t think so

[queen eagle]

One thing i thought about

Hog is sometimes shown as sadistic

[magic python]

i figured out me and junkrat have the same name

spelled the exact same way too

just my last name isnt fauks...

[grand wedge]

He still have some weird jaw and weird green mohawk (that may or not be hair…) there was his placeholder picture on the hero selection screen shown when they show the first Venture gameplay

[dusk granite]

roadhog just wants bag

but yeah no he definitely is still evil

[twilit patrol]

Roadhog isn't that evil

[dusk granite]

not as evil as others for sure

but he still wants money

[twilit patrol]

He's mostly depressed I think

[dusk granite]

oh yeah wasnt his life like

pretty much over

when the apocalypse started

[twilit patrol]

I don't know exactly

[simple prawn]

Y'all think that road hog and junk rat are joining talon???

[twilit patrol]

No

I don't know why they would join Talon

[simple prawn]

Fair enough they just probably want to stay in Australia

[native current]

every time when i think about overwatch lore i want it more 😦 short stories are fine but show like arcane would be Amazing

[twilit patrol]

It would be good yeah

[azure flint]

@peak escarp do you think we'll ever find out what happened to cassidy's arm

[native current]

I have theory that Ashe cutted his arm...

[rare trail]

she couldnt have

[peak escarp]

possibly

[azure flint]

or what happened to genji's arms and legs

surely hanzo couldnt have ripped them off himself

[weary quarry]

I thought it was implied Bob ripped Cass's arm off, maybe from the Ashe cinematic?

[peak escarp]

no

[native current]

Why?
We can see that in deadlock era he had arm
After he lost

[peak escarp]

Ashe threatened to have Bob rip off his other arm

Cassidy still had his arm when Overwatch fell, which was ~7 years ago in the timeline

[weary quarry]

Ahh I see

[native current]

This sounds kinda creepy...

[peak escarp]

Reunion is the first time Cassidy and Ashe have met since he got busted 22 years ago

[azure flint]

ashe said she'll have bob rip off his other arm cuz why rip off his robot arm

[peak escarp]

the fight with Hanzo left Genji nearly dead and unable to walk - Overwatch offered to rebuild his body (with cybernetics) so he could walk again

the arms/legs were probably enhancements he was offered to make him a better weapon

similar to Sojourn's situation

she got cybernetics as a child to stop her body from being destroyed by an autoimmune disorder, then later opted in to cybernetic limbs and eyes and brain implants so she could be a better soldier

[native current]

@peak escarp you want to say that Hanzo just break
Genji's Spine?

Or im just stupid

[peak escarp]

it's implied that he cut Genji (nearly) in half with his sword

the angle of the slash on the scroll on Hanamura point B matches up with the remaining flesh parts of Genji's body

[native current]

I still dont know what Hanzo had in his head to cut own brother in half.

[peak escarp]

a lot of rage, probably

he seems to have anger issues

[native current]

Well he is from mafia...

[peak escarp]

the clan elders told Hanzo to force Genji to behave and help run the empire, they didn't want Genji killed

their confrontation led to a fight which led to Hanzo thinking he killed Genji (fortunately Overwatch already had the Shimada clan under surveillance so there were agents close by who could save him)

[native current]

It would be nice if we could get some animation about this fight

[peak escarp]

it would be nice, but that might push the T rating

they could put it in a novel/short story though

maybe a comic?

[native current]

This dont need be showed (end of fight)

Todays cartoon already shows characters with knives stuck in their stomachs

Without blood but still...

[peak escarp]

yeah I guess they could work around it

[azure flint]

is it true hanzo picked up a bow bc he felt ashamed using a sword after what he did to genji

[peak escarp]

yep

I want a story/comic/short where Genji and Hanzo end up fighting together against a common enemy, and end up swapping weapons

[native current]

Hmm Mercy Have interactions with Hanzo? In ow 1?
Btw if they meet in lore Mercy just would make Fight about What he did to Genji.

[azure flint]

dragons is probably my favorite cinematic

[peak escarp]

most of Overwatch probably wouldn't like Hanzo for what he did to Genji

except Reyes - he thought Hanzo would be a good recruit for Blackwatch

[azure flint]

love the dragon brothers story narration and genji/hanzo fighting

[wet lotus]

i love overwatch lore sm

its so sad how we never getting any new lore

....idt

[native current]

We got short story about Sym and Lw!!

Its still fine tho

[azure flint]

if they do a storytime with the new tank's va or a cinematic

it would be cool if its emre

but idk

[native current]

Junkerqueen cinematic is my fav btw

[azure flint]

probably not

[native current]

Everyone would be happy

[twilit patrol]

I like it but I don't like when she breaks the fourth wall

[magic python]

bro im so happy for another tank

[polar garnet]

🤓 not quite

the shimada was a crime family

more yakuza type stuff is like the hashimoto

[dusk granite]

i mean the most u can get is junkrat wanting to join talon

one of his voicelines
"Come on, Jamison. This is your big chance to impress Talon!"

and "How many kills for an invite to Talon?"

[native current]

Sounds like mafia to me

Group of poeple making crimes?

Mafia/gang

[magic python]

i mean i guess.. i thought it was just an assasin group

[magic python]

that was also a family

[flint rivet]

Family first I think that happens to do crime as their job. Far as the shimada.

[magic python]

oh ok

btw who does everyone play

[peak escarp]

the Shimada and the Hashimoto are both yakuza families

the Shimada just cared more for their community than the Hashimoto

[rocky axle]

Is Soldier Gay?

[peak escarp]

yes

[magic python]

idk id he still?

[peak escarp]

why would it change

[queen eagle]

Yes hes canonically gay

He likes bud light

[dusk granite]

do y'all agree that Mauga looks nice in a black shirt

[fleet scaffold]

WHY HASNT KIRIKO'S LORE BEEN RETCONNED YET

Her growing up with the Shimada brothers STILL hasn't been addressed by the devs as "literally impossible".

[keen summit]

its not impossible

its just badly drawn and conceptualized

[merry token]

Most likely the artist that drew the images for her backstory wasn’t given an official age range at the time and just generally thought “Kiriko’s probably a bit younger than the shimada brothers”

[blazing shore]

@peak escarp help where do i learn more

[keen summit]

do you mean reading that thing?

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-gb/media/stories/ramattra-reflections/

if so, here

[blazing shore]

omg ily

[keen summit]

its a really good read and explains ram more, if you have question afterwards u can ask em

[blazing shore]

will doooo

i completely forgot they released this

[keen summit]

do we know anyone who translates arabic in the server? its possible the monitors could say sum else with the new hero

[worthy rose]

Anybody down to play ov

[azure valve]

sigma is the best agent change my mind

[lusty peak]

Guys where ican find a room for scrims

[rare trail]

she never "grew up" with the shimada brothers, since the beginning she has been significantly younger than the brothers

her age is somewhat murky and unexplained because based on how old she was when sojiro died and how long ago that happened she should be 26 iirc

but given it wasnt changed with sojourns age change or at all after that probably means its intentional and has an explanation we just havent been told yet

[ionic summit]

agent?

has bro been playing too much valorant?

[queen eagle]

Agent

[worthy rose]

Anybody down to play ob dm if u r

[worthy rose]

can lucio actually heal inlore with his music?

[peak escarp]

no

he can "speed boost" which is really just giving people a rhythm to move to

[dusk granite]

tbh kiriko could've been better if her lore was being raised alone

or a whole new family

[dusk granite]

i literally say legend sometimes because i played too much brawlhalla

😭

[ionic summit]

bro getting his characters mixed lol

[peak escarp]

Kiriko's lore is fine, they just need to fix her age

[dusk granite]

they won't because it's for marketing purposes

kiriko is literally just for marketing there's nothing special about her other than that imo

[peak escarp]

how does her age change marketing?

most people don't even know her age

[dusk granite]

anything can be marketing honestly

[peak escarp]

Tracer was the marketing postergirl of OW1 and she was 25

[dusk granite]

but i can understand your point of view about just changing her age

[dusk granite]

actually whos even the poster for ow2 anymore

let me check

imdb shows sojourn, zen, and brig and steam shows tracer brig and ana

[peak escarp]

there isn't really a face of Overwatch anymore

not as much as there was in OW1

[worthy rose]

Whoevers the new hero that season, and if there's not one, Kiriko I guess.

[solid badge]

Exactly

[dusk granite]

Phreak

[fleet scaffold]

That feels like cope but I have to admit there is still a somehow chance that you are right.

[rare trail]

yeah it probably is cope

[opaque talon]

are roadhog and junkrat a couple?

[azure flint]

a couple of dashing rogues

[acoustic ice]

how much ram would the average omnic have anyway?

[peak escarp]

probably a lot

several TB at least

[acoustic ice]

and how much would it cost to make an omnic

[tacit sand]

Bro seriously what the fuck did they do to ramattra in this new season 😐

[hoary pond]

a human brain on average has about 1-2 petabytes of ram, and since omnics are capable of expression and emotion, id assume itd be about that much. also when omics were first mmade, one omnic was about 270,000 of what ever future currency they use. but now that omnics are a people id assume they dont cost anything to buy, but material wise id say bettween alloys and tech close to 900,000 or so

[floral trench]

stinky balls

[fringe shard]

Is there a stated reason why rammatra sided with the decepticons. He doesn't seem like the type of person to side with current Megatron. could it be foreshadowing for rammatra becoming a dictator over omnics? Because Megatron was a revolutionary turned dictator

[keen summit]

its not canon

what does it matter

they went "we have evil robot who transforms, we have evil robot who transforms, good enough"

[opaque tundra]

Ramattra doesn’t want to be a dictator over omnickind. He’s trying to save them

[keen summit]

wellll

he also kinda wants to do that through dictatorship

"if they wont make that choice, then we'll need to make that choice FOR them"

he is basically saying if they dont want what he views as freedom, he'll force them to have it

[opaque tundra]

Isn’t dictatorship about governing? There’s no evidence that he wants to become their ruler

[keen summit]

if you "rule over their choices" thats also dictating what theyre doing no?

its not the exact definition obv

but its quite similair as i decided to make choices for others

[opaque tundra]

Technically I guess???

We know he’s capturing omnics but we don’t know what he’s going to do with them yet so it’s hard to say whether he’s controlling them or not

[keen summit]

id say what hes doing is as its making them dormant practically putting them in sleep mode

[opaque tundra]

Yeah that’s confirmed

[keen summit]

to make them not able to object or fight back, and so theyre "save"

and the nhe just wakes em up once its time and they have a place

aka as he said "make the coice for them" and he doesnt want them to fight back and get hurt sooo he does this

[opaque tundra]

That’s a solid theory

[fringe shard]

I mean so was Megatron

[opaque tundra]

I don’t know the Transformers lore but it does makes sense why Ramattra and Megatron would be besties if they hypothetically met

[fringe shard]

Not really Megatron will kill, and abuse his faction (except soundwave that's his bestie)

Starscreams role for Megatron is to be Megatron's punching bag. Megatron was originally a revolutionary trying to get equal rights for his people, Megatron ended up turning into a dictator after time. What if my glorious king rammatra turns into one eventually. Then again overwatch devs don't care that much about the lore

[opaque tundra]

The devs do care about the lore, it's the higher ups that don't give them the chance to fully explore it

They were working on the Story Missions for YEARS until it got cancelled

[modest raft]

they can go the apex legend route and do comics, thats worked very well for apex at least

[opaque tundra]

They already have comics

[modest raft]

but do they make them frequently?

[opaque tundra]

We got two comics for Venture and Juno's releases so we've been getting them recently, but I agree that maybe they should make them more consistently and frequently

[fringe shard]

Oh damn. But from a transformers fan like me I don't see why rammatra would join Megatron. The only thing I could see is rammatra turning into like Megatron dictator formed from injustice

[modest raft]

each season of apex legends tells a continous story whether it be constantly changing voicelines, to environmental storytelling, to comics, etc.

[opaque tundra]

That's awesome and Overwatch should be doing something similar

[modest raft]

i quit apex legends because it was getting too skill issue oriented for me and i hated the matchmaking but i loved the storytelling

[fringe shard]

Do omnics have a lifespan?

[modest raft]

all the voicelines are pretty cool and definitely tells more about the characters than lucio asking everyone what their favorite animal is or hanzo having a horse fetish

[fringe shard]

Rammatras my favorite racist frfr

[opaque tundra]

We don't know for how long they live for but we do know that they're not immortal

[fringe shard]

But I'll put some similarities between Megatron and rammatra. Both revolutionarys. Both first tried to make peace. Both were oppressed. Rammatra has taken the same route Megatron did when he was rejected. The decepticon movement is basically what null sector is doing.anger being the cause and violence seemingly to be the end

Also both Megatron and rammatra are made for task that required more strength. Megatron was a miner turned gladiator and rammatra was a ravager

[soft carbon]

PEACE THROUGH TYRANNY

...
*cough*

[keen summit]

theres alot of graffiti

i might be right

my theory

[peak escarp]

seems like the Phreaks are test subjects from Oasis, possibly human/animal hybrids

[peak escarp]

Orisa and Juno have made it to Gibraltar

[random elbow]

In the trailer the mysterious spikey black tar ball that everyone likes to punch in lobby is not there, perhaps that was a "phreak"

[spare fox]

Omg!!! More of this!!!

And blink-and-you-miss-it Gency crumbs for those interested

[keen summit]

i called this!

damn

i called the test subject

[peak escarp]

From: Efi Oladele
Subject: Greetings from Watchpoint: Gibraltar!

I can't believe we're really here! The dropship Sojourn sent for us was actually way scarier than anything I could imagine, but the watchpoint is... incredible - it looks just like the old holovids, and speaking of that team, I've met so many familiar faces: Reinhardt, Winston, Tracer... I was almost too nervous to introduce myself, but luckily Orisa had no such trouble. At first we weren't the only newcomers - a lot of really amazing people from all around the world gathered to join Overwatch after the Null Sector attacks.

Oh, I almost forgot the best part. Lucio is here, Mama! You should have seen his face when Orisa and I walked in. I think he was even more [surprised?] than me! He gave me the some new albums to send home - he signed everything too. When you see Hasana and Naade, please share these with them. (You might want to wear earplugs, though - their screams could defeat even Sound Quake.)

This is everything I've ever hoped for, Mama. With the Junies keeping Numbani safe, Orisa and I can [...] everywhere we're needed (and judging by the [...] Winston is running on this old base, I think my talents are very needed.) Maybe we won't solve every problem overnight, but I'm excited to help where I can. It's like you said: if Orisa and I can make the world just a little bit better, that will be enough. I have you and Dad to thank! I know I'll have lots of stories to share when I come home again.

Love,
Efi
PS: Orisa says she [misses?] you too!```

[spare fox]

I was only half expecting Efi to join OW, I thought it entirely possible that they only recruit Orisa (being that Efi is a minor still) but they probably won't have her leave the watchpoint

in any battle-like capacity anyway

[peak escarp]

Hero of Numbani and Unity both implied that Efi and Orisa would be joining/helping Overwatch

[native current]

Ohh efi is soo cute Girl 🔅

[white cobalt]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1846267854770844023

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry) on X

New #Overwatch2 Maps Teased 🗺️

Two new posters in the Numbani Spawn Room now highlight the Atlantic Arcology and Morocco, hinting at future maps in these locations.

Twitter · Oct 15, 2024, 7:12 PM

[spare fox]

yeah what I wasn't sure about was Efi actually being in it as in at the Watchpoint - I didn't think it impossible just that the alternative was also possible

[keen summit]

keep in mind last time two were teased it was for illari and mauga

[marble charm]

I think it makes sense

I understand the whole she's still a kid thing (I imagine lots of OW discussed her joining the team at Gibraltar)

But someone needs to repair Orisa

And she's a prodigy genius so there's alot more than just Orisa that she can work on

[wooden sleet]

why is fareeha posing away from the camera

[marble charm]

To look cool and mysterious

Her arms are also crossed so she just might not want to be in the photo

[wooden sleet]

fair

[fallow mantle]

genji and mercy in the back, pharah at the front/side looking moody 💀

[wooden sleet]

Still a bit sad we will never see the story of orisa joining overwatch

[spare fox]

Or Juno

or maybe anyone else

[hushed jetty]

OOOOOHOHOHOHO

YES OH MY GOD YES

[marble charm]

Pharmacies in shambles rn

[azure flint]

efi joining ow is interesting aint she like 10

or maybe shes older now idk

[mental tendon]

i wish they would fully revamp the roadmap. maybe revive the pve project.

[peak escarp]

she's 13

but she won't be an active field agent

[golden oak]

Why Morocco?

Afaik no lore tied with that place

Unless it will be a teaser for a future hero

Like we had Samoa map before mauga

[spare fox]

idk why but for some reason for a while it felt like they were saving the Atlantic Archology for something big

[twilit patrol]

Yeah there has to be a reason why there still isn't Arcology

I thought it could release with flashpoint

[peak escarp]

apparently there's some emails on Oasis between the Minister of Geology (Anya al-Sharani) and the Minister of Genetics (Moira O'deorain) about some vanadium - Moira mentions Helix in Morocco, so there's a small connection

https://vxtwitter.com/theodessastone/status/1846298676227920189

[golden oak]

Some LW lore will drop prob

[golden oak]

So vanadium is likely the ferrofluid thing?

[peak escarp]

idk

[twilit patrol]

Hope so

I always forgot he actually lives at Arcology

[quick seal]

!!loreshorts

[twilit patrol]

!!loreshorts

[twilit nacelle]

Animated Shorts:
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Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
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Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
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Kiriko: https://bit.ly/3SPnLtS

For Origin Trailers, use !!loreOrigin
For other videos, use !!loreVideos

[flint rivet]

Lore!@@

Also found this from a reddit post about lore. Was in nubani
Aww I can't add photos. Nevermind.
It's innthe reworked Nubani just outside the first attacker spawn. At the Kofi coffee shop. It's from efi
Oh maybe I can link the reddit post hold on

You guys might already have seen it
sorry If so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/s/YgTgwzg9gM

[flint rivet]

Oh ha! Thank you!!

[golden oak]

Are we gonna get martins

[peak escarp]

https://x.com/trouvai11e/status/1846320462550462644?s=46&t=0KR-MJclX593ADxy6rkO-A

Miranda (@Trouvai11e) on X

TREMENDOUSLY happy to see everyone enjoying all the awesome map updates! Huge shoutout to environ art and LD for incorporating all these phenomenal lore touches 💙

We'll have some blog versions of a few of those in-game pieces out soon!

Twitter · Oct 15, 2024, 10:41 PM

oh good

a tablet on Circuit Royal that only turns on for Sombra... getting a contract from Max?

[hot bolt]

is it cannon to ship reinhardt and torbjorn together

[peak escarp]

no

[hot bolt]

aw man

does zenyatta have a soul and do they go by they/them

[frank ravine]

Weak attempt

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta does have a soul but his pronouns are he/him

the only hero to use they/them is Venture

[hot bolt]

what does hamton go by

[peak escarp]

he/him

[nova adder]

Guys please help me I cannot see my overwatch league skins . I had tracer and Ana white and gold overwatch skin but they disappeared. Any one knows why ?? They went misssing today

[desert yacht]

was the arcology the lifeweaver place

or am i thinking of smth else

[spare fox]

it's the place that the Martens - the dudes who developed the extra hard glass technology to hold back rising sea levels - developed. It's kind of a vishkar-esque utopia apparently but without the vishkar dystopia, if you know what I mean?

[desert yacht]

the place sym and lw defended from null sector?

[spare fox]

yes that's the one

[desert yacht]

that story was cool it sounded like a really interesting location

so im glad it's potentially getting teased as a map

[spare fox]

it's basically a man-made island (archology) that is free from the governance of any nations, science and technology are nurtured and omnics are treated as equals

[desert yacht]

i remember the soldier lw interaction mentioning the martens they actually got insane aura

[desert yacht]

so is it like a more regulated oasis

[spare fox]

idk about "more regulated"

to me it's more like a hippy commune but with scientists and ultra futuristic tech? that's what it comes off to me

[near smelt]

Has the fortress on 3rd point Havana always been a talon base? I was just checking out the map updates and I'm not sure if I was just blind or smth

[weary quarry]

The Talon stuff just came with the updates today

[near smelt]

Okay I thought so, it looks pretty good

[merry token]

If you still haven’t seen this or any other translation yet someone is doing so on Twitter https://x.com/geesegoose_1/status/1846378569439891616?s=46&t=CUX_YIJGrE60CM9k0aYUrA

👻 GeeseGoose 💀 | Loremaster (@geesegoose_1) on X

My friend is slowly translating the text, for now we have the Left Monitor & the first Email/Letter from the Right Monitor!

(note there still may be some errors, but this is good enough for me lol)

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 2:32 AM

[novel void]

has anyone spoken about how the new havana castle is taken over as a talon base?

[peak escarp]

it has been in Talon possession since the Storm Rising mission

[novel void]

oh

even tho its liek more geared towards them now

like theres weapons out?

like as if we are getting a new one

[peak escarp]

maybe

[novel void]

Also why the fuck has there not been any revivals of the past missions- i never got to play them

[peak escarp]

every year I keep hoping

[novel void]

I think its pretty significant- 5 years after the map release they create changes that add no function

i still cant believe blizzard got salty that their cfo left blizzard to work at netflix so everyone else had to perish because of them being petty

[novel void]

so wait iu just watched the cutscenes of that mission- it looks like OW took it back no?

[peak escarp]

they were just going after Max

they didn't take back the fort

[novel void]

does the mission take place in that gated off area of havana?

the one off to the side of second point?

[peak escarp]

no

[novel void]

ah damn

also even tho i dont know much about the past story (even though i really want to) i dont think max should be a hero

[keen summit]

thank you

i am very excited now cuz it seems i may have been right

[peak escarp]

agreed

Max does not have the personality for a hero

he's too much of a coward

[novel void]

nor the abilities to be one

isn't he just a mob boss kind of (sorry dont know)

[peak escarp]

kinda

he's the money guy for Talon

[novel void]

you know star wars?

[peak escarp]

somewhat

[novel void]

I see him as grand moff tarkin

old guy who has almost just as much power as darth vader rank wise- but if a jedi went against him the jedi would destroy him

powerful as a status

[peak escarp]

hm

[keen summit]

ive always said: let him control a long range mech like how the race cars are controlled in circuit

[novel void]

yeah overwatch has said they will never do any more mechs in the game

[golden oak]

Anarchist paradise? Or just an international territory like Antarctica?

[peak escarp]

it's an international collective

that's beyond the laws of any nation

[golden oak]

So more like Antarctica huh

[keen summit]

They said not meka squad, this also wouldnt have eject

But my theory bout next tank might be correct with the experimented on humans n stuff which is a nice feelin

[rapid mountain]

Yeah

I read some comic

And when Max met Doomfist

He didn’t seem to be happy that Doomfist returned from Prison

[merry mason]

The way it’s described it seems to be something like a commune

[novel void]

i think the new tank will be half omnic half human- but not like sojourn's cybernetics augments- more like junkers ig

[brave lynx]

A new tablet has appeared on the Circuit Royal map, which only turns on when Sombra approaches it. There is correspondence on the tablet with a certain character named M, maybe it is Maximilian?

[opaque tundra]

That’s the current theory yeah

[fallow mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d321xZr2tFk video on the new lore drops from the season

emails on the oasis screens lends further credence to morocco map

[spare fox]

Any new character interactions yet?

[peak escarp]

a few between Tracer and Illari, Tracer and Juno, and Tracer and Moira

[azure flint]

what is the current present of ow lore

or when idk

[tepid hearth]

What heroes is symmetra not like.... directly antagonist towards? Is there any?

[merry token]

Lifeweaver, Zenyatta

She’s not really antagonistic to anyone tbh

She’s just like that

Even to Lucio, like yeah they have some past beef but she’s trying to learn

[tepid hearth]

Oh wait doesn't she have some friendly lines to sombra

[polar garnet]

does she?

ive never heard any

[golden oak]

Weird how Moira seems unbothered by tracer’s peculiar condition
I thought she’d be thrilled to examine tracer herself

[spare fox]

Are there any vids or anything of the new interactions?

[peak escarp]

they've been popping up on twitter

I expect there will be a video soon

[spare fox]

Nice

[azure flint]

will the tank be an ow member or talon member

guesses?

[willow tusk]

fgghg

[spare fox]

I think at least for the foreseeable future, they'll be part of the new independent faction
(Phreaks) but specifically be an antagonist to Moira

my theory anyway

[peak escarp]

neither

they're a Phreak

[umbral patrol]

What is the big thing that Sombra thinks was the cause of the original Overwatch shutdown?

[spare fox]

Right now it's just called the Conspiracy and it's symbolized by that purple eye with 6 dots

That's really all we know, that and apparently they/it sees everything

[golden oak]

It was bc of blackwatch tho

[peak escarp]

not entirely

Overwatch was already being investigated before the Venice Incident

[golden oak]

Yeah but blackwatch was also running before the incident

[peak escarp]

the public didn't know about Blackwatch before the incident

the UN probably didn't even know

[azure flint]

is venture in ow or joining

[peak escarp]

not yet

[polar garnet]

tracer is more a physics mystery

moiras a geneticist

[keen summit]

No, orisa and juno are

[keen summit]

I find it kinda sad that just kinda happened without like comic

[digital linden]

did the phreak guy destroy moiras ministry

[keen summit]

phreaks yeah, the group

it seems my theory may be correct

sym

absolutely

my theory for Phreaks was a group of experimented on humans

[golden oak]

Yeah but it affects her biologically

[polar garnet]

does it?

huh

[golden oak]

Every time she recalls her body comes back to what it was before those few seconds

[keen summit]

i think the new hero is hybrid snake human, made by moira

[native current]

Snake? I love snakes ❤️

[keen summit]

mainly cuz this graffiti

[native current]

To be honest its looks like more Eel...

[keen summit]

could also be

all we know for sure is that hes a weird faced guy, which this one looks closest to and is named in code as "spiker"

[native current]

I wish they add to him nice design something new

Not Junkerqueen but with spikes or something

Punk tank

[keen summit]

same

im mainly interested in the kit and lore obv

[native current]

Tank with ability to poison enemies ❤️

[golden oak]

Imagine stealing his spot as the Scottish hero

[ancient hollow]

Is there a reason why cass is missing an arm/has the prosthetic

I can’t find anything abt it

[keen summit]

we dont know how he lost it

just that he did

[ancient hollow]

Oh okay thanks