lore-discussion

[tranquil orbit]

Im also against full redemption because i think he's pretty much gone past several lines of no return at this point 💀

[patent trench]

i think having him reconnect or atleast meet up with zen again could be interesting

[tranquil orbit]

Yh id love it to end w zen talking to him behind bars

To mirror that first end credits scene

[patent trench]

“brother was this all worth it?” is a line needing to be spoken

oh yeah btw whats like going on with jack rn

is he just doing vigilante shit

[tranquil orbit]

I dont wanna spoil but there was a short story w him and sombra

All im gonna say is conspiracy

I wont go into full detail because ik some ppl might wanna read it on their own time

[clever remnant]

Besides generally wanting to see the story continue on In general I really want to see how they continue ram and sigma stories just can't cook with character's like that and be we will check back with them here and there

[hot cairn]

I want to see what side illari joins

And who dies

[zenith mango]

illari doesn't necessarily need to take a side

a lot of overwatch characters are kinda in their own little thing

[merry mason]

I think they’ll all ultimately end up on one side or another if the story keeps going

[scenic parcel]

After the null sector war I could see a Talon vs Overwatch war

With talon bribing governments into action against overwatch

Then overwatch gaining support from the public and individual vigilantes

Obviously only if they carry on with the same trajectory

[peak escarp]

reminder

The Last Bastion is a masterpiece and if you haven't watched it, you should

and if you have watched it, watch it again

[patent trench]

proof robots can get ptsd

[patent trench]

Doomfist for president

[torn narwhal]

Mew

[slow lynx]

.

[nova salmon]

I want them to flesh out the lore with Australia SO BAD

I'm a junkpilled scrapmaxxing junker

[patent trench]

need more junkrat and roadhog shenanigans

[turbid minnow]

The Last Bastion and Honor and Glory are the best imo

[nova salmon]

BLIZARD RELEASE A NEW CINEMATIC AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!

[turbid minnow]

I’m gonna go watch them again

[keen vessel]

There's two things that solve every problem. Money and explosives. I'VE GOT AN IDEA!

[turbid minnow]

Then he holds up 3 fingers

[pure scarab]

This still hurts me to hear

I was very upset to hear rein possibly being dead in the new PvE, but then again it also makes sense for his character

and the whole idea of a "Brokenhardt" Brigitte skin and Brig's passive "Godfathers Will" is cool but sad

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh it was a pretty bogus leak

Theres no ACTUAL indication he was gonna die beyond here say which anyone couldve said

[patent trench]

brig having a skin that have ow1 reinhardt helmet would go so hard
like her whole suit is now like reinhardts

[merry token]

Idk

He literally encourages her to not wear a helmet in an interaction

[turbid minnow]

She probably wouldn’t use the exact same helmet design though

[patent trench]

not exact but something similar as like a rememberance thing

[turbid minnow]

Yeah probs

[tranquil orbit]

Tbf rein ditched his helmet in the current events so i dont see why shed suddenly start wearing one

Like for the entire rio mission and in gothenburg he's just going it w 0 helmet

[turbid minnow]

She wouldn’t be able to be a crusader tho

[tranquil orbit]

Not rly sure if she needs to be one

Shes touted as a future leader so i wouldnt be surprised if in the far future she's like a overwatch strike team leader

[uneven trail]

@night kindle I CAN'T SEND MESSAGES IN DMS UNTIL THE MORNING

[night kindle]

Oh!

[uneven trail]

||that is insane though bro needs help||

[night kindle]

There's smth else

[uneven trail]

Send

@night kindle 💀

[night kindle]

☠️

[twilit patrol]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[uneven trail]

Gang i messaged them here bc I can't message people in dms rn I think you'll cope

I'm not exactly disturbing a deep lore conversation

[tacit pendant]

😭

bruh i just learned that ow has lore

nahthats crazy

[green pike]

When genji is yapping about his acceptance of himself n stuff, what religion or philosophy is he following exactly? Buddhism?

Cuz lowkey i wanna be yappin like genji abt acceptance of everything

[tranquil orbit]

self acceptance is something that transcends a lot of religions/philosophies however genji was rly taught this when he spent time w zenyatta and the shambali

it's a spiritual movement and you're right to acc point to buddhism irl because theyre v much inspired by that

zen even wears the same colour scheme as the dalai lama

[smoky tendon]

i think it's because of his cybernetic form

[tranquil orbit]

and zen is a buddhist term

[tranquil orbit]

part of it is that but also partially his relationship w hanzo and the whole situation w that

genji's been through a lot

also his time w blackwatch as an effective human weapon

[past copper]

Ya know I recall someone saying they’d want a Sailor Moon collab. Ideas came to mind on that

Brigitte = Sailor Moon
Mei = Sailor Mercury
Kiriko = Sailor Mars
Junker Queen = Sailor Jupiter
Illari = Sailor Venus

Hmm. Maybe Life Weaver as Tuxedo Mask?

[viscid vine]

brig would not be sailor moon

you know who they’d give that skin to

[bronze hedge]

welcome to orbit!

[viscid vine]

no

[silk turret]

How rich is doom?

[peak escarp]

his family owns a prosthetics company

and he's got crime money

he's probably the richest hero

here's my OW1 tierlist of their income brackets

[merry token]

Trader could make so much money delivering food oml

[tranquil orbit]

Not if uber is still paying like they do rn 💀

Gig economy is not it

[digital saffron]

@alpine roost

[long tulip]

where did

Genji's blade come from?

Im pretty sure his back waist sword was from childhood?

[peak escarp]

his sword was made for him by Toshiro Yamagami

he was the weaponsmith for the Shimada clan and is now forced to make spirit weapons for the Hashimoto clan

Toshiro is Kiriko's father

[midnight delta]

Any baddies here🗿

[sacred hornet]

Its better off with mcree

[scenic parcel]

We might need an updated version lol

There's been new heroes and a bit more insight to some characters origins

[turbid minnow]

Venture defo either makes bank

Or is loved by museums

[patent trench]

sigma as sailor moon would be the funniest shit

[half pelican]

you mean cassidy !

[sacred hornet]

Yah it will be better

[uneven latch]

Sigma as sailor moon with POTG sailor moon transformation scene and ultimate speech “Moon Prism Power, Make Up!” is insta auto-buy for me 🫃

[patent trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sailormoon-art-wallpaper-sailor-moon-gif-20236673

how do i gain permission to post gifs

[turbid minnow]

Become regular or boost the server

[slow forge]

I js saw the "invasion" cinematic, sombra, widowmaker and zenyatta met

Did they like, kidnap him or something?

It's left vague and hard to really say what happened

But it's implied they kidnapped him

[smoky tendon]

no, genji comes and rescues him

[patent trench]

i thought zen low diff them

[slow forge]

Fr

[slow forge]

Is it implied or did u actually find out

[smoky tendon]

here in the overwatch 2 gameplay trailer, you see genji fighting off talon soldiers at the same place zenyatta was in the cinematic, zenyatta says "i knew you'd return one day." and genji replies "it's been too long, master." https://youtu.be/dZl1yGUetjI?feature=shared

[opaque tundra]

They showed clips of the work in progress animation for the cutscene in the 2021 Blizzconline presentation

[smoky tendon]

at 0:47 part of the video

[hearty crown]

I heard genji is rlly a fall guys character is this true just reincarnated

[half pelican]

MAXIMILIEN MENTION AND THEN NOTHING AFTER...

i miss maximilien

[zenith mango]

@peak escarp can u confirm

[opaque tundra]

https://youtu.be/lRj-GotnNaQ?si=3kwDXJr4SGNWRV28
32:03

[peak escarp]

correct

[zenith mango]

we dont have a vid of it tho right

[tranquil orbit]

not fully rendered but if u check that timestamp youll see the clip

[scenic parcel]

From what we know genji rescuing zenyatta from talon would've been the next pve mission after gothenberg

[tranquil orbit]

wouldve been so dope if there was like a story path like different things pan out depending on whether u saved zen or not

i doubt they were ever considering it because they wanted to keep the story linear

but what this project couldve been 😭

[scenic parcel]

I would've liked 2 or 3 separate missions in Toronto that all happen at the same time

The sojourn one that we play

Then 2 other groups doing other things

[tranquil orbit]

they also mentioned something abt the snow storm in this that didnt quite make it to the final cut

like originally the environmental aspect was gonna have a much bigger part

so it acc felt pressured

i rly think they kinda missed the ball on that because there rly wasnt that much urgency it kinda just felt like going through checkpoints

[scenic parcel]

Imagine being tracer flying about doing things from the dropship

[opaque tundra]

Alternate routes sounds good on paper but the discussion on which paths are canon or not would be hell

Like there’s already a fair amount of lore misconceptions in the community already i do not want to deal with those arguments lol

[tranquil orbit]

tbf some other games manage it

theres like the "true" ending/route and u have other alternates

you're right to say that theres a lot of lore misconceptions but a lot of that comes down to the fact that the approach has been so inconsistent over the years that it takes a lot of effort to even get whats going on at all

in a pve game tho u can at least spell out what the "true" ending is - this happens a lot when u wanna do a sequel the devs kinda explain which story options were the canon ones

[scenic parcel]

That is such a tragic video to watch in 2024

[brisk moon]

Does anyone know how old Juno is?

[tranquil orbit]

Not for certain but weve guessed 18-21 (thats in earth years lmao)

This is because assuming jiayi is her mum and is close to mei's chronological age she'd be maybe early 40s rn

Meaning juno is likely in that younger range

[scenic parcel]

Has the current date in overwatch been confirmed

I know it's set roughly in the 2070s

But any specifics on what year exactly

[tranquil orbit]

yh i think so u can just say 207X

but weve defo not been given explicit dates

[scenic parcel]

Yh all we know are times relative to the current date

So the omnic crisis was 30 years before present day

Present day is set 60 years from 2014-2016

So that makes it 2074-2076

[tranquil orbit]

most likely however theyve never rly confirmed that or not

matter of fact i wouldnt be surprised if they completely retcon at some point if they game has serious longevity

it's abt to become a decade old who knows what happens after another one 💀

obvs it probably wont last long enough to be a problem but who knows what they decide

[scenic parcel]

Based on a timeline set in 2074 some characters would have been born by 2024

Like sigma rein Ana reaper soldier torb and sojourn

[brisk moon]

That’s crazy

[tranquil orbit]

yh this is why some ppl meme abt sigma growing up on brainrot 💀

[scenic parcel]

Sigma would be born 2012

So a 12 year old would definitely watch a lot of brainrot lol

[weary shale]

Do you think they said skibidi?

[slow forge]

Ah I see

[gilded salmon]

Lf IG friends follow me haxd.ali

[burnt pendant]

Make mauga gay

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[burnt pendant]

Oh

Cassidy x roadhog is canon now

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[burnt pendant]

Its lore

[lament path]

https://tenor.com/view/emo-kid-angry-meme-bang-gif-12291090698829658654

[slow forge]

Wasn't sigma born in 2017

[turbid minnow]

Nah like 2013

[slow forge]

Wow I'm technically older than sigma

[scenic parcel]

In reference to the overwatch announcement from 2014 it was said to be 60 years in the future therefore I'm assuming the recall is in 2074

Zero hour is thought to be 2 years later in 2076

And then you can just do the maths

Using the heroes age

At least theoretically

No specific dates have been confirmed

[patent trench]

so sigma used skibidi rizz unironically

[rare trail]

we dont know

the exact year ow takes place hasnt been told

[golden oak]

Who’s Burnes

[burnt pendant]

Fail

[turbid minnow]

Hahahah

Laugh at them cuz embedded fail

[bronze hedge]

but wr know its 207X

personally for me i think its 2077

[rare trail]

how ?

afaik the closest we have is based off junkrat age and birthday

#lore-discussion message

[fallow mantle]

became pro at cards after being assigned to be an undercover agent

she quit overwatch and just played cards as a living instead

[peak escarp]

"something like 60 years from now" has been said from 2014 (when the game was announced) to 2021 (before OW2 launched)

and refers to the date of Winston's recall - present day OW2 is 2 years after that

the most likely year for OW2's present day is 2079

[spare fox]

I kind of don't think the specific date matters

Only the years that events occurred in with relative relation to one another

Bc you could drive yourself mad figuring it out now that we have heroes' age and birthdates

[tranquil orbit]

agreed they can easily retcon this kind of thing anyways

chronological ordering is important but realistically this whole story could be taking place in the 2200s and it wouldnt make a difference

[scenic parcel]

What is the most reliable central source for all lore

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/

[scenic parcel]

Thanks

[past copper]

Ya know, with a new Hellboy movie releasing soon, I wonder if a Hellboy theme is off the table

Hellboy Doomfist all the way

Or… Hellboy Cassidy

And Junkrat as the Crooked Man

[acoustic ice]

still surprised that it's still a pure coincidence that blue vengeance mercy feels like it'd be in vishkar

[keen summit]

Just the colour scheme but wrong blues

As in the light parts

[bronze hedge]

if the black sash was gold id confuse it for vishkat

[peak escarp]

Vishkar is more cyan than blue

[keen summit]

Ill keep it short cuz lore but why?

[tropic badge]

is kiriko having less age than genji and hanzo considered a lore error still?

[peak escarp]

no

she's supposed to be younger than them

[viscid barn]

"they grew up together"
20 years age gap: ....

[peak escarp]

they didn't grow up together

they trained together when Kiriko was a child

[keen vessel]

https://images.app.goo.gl/T7f6kMf3tmG3LT9HA

There's still a 20 year age gap

[hushed jetty]

i assume the artist in her origin story wasnt told how old the shimadas were supposed to be

so kiriko was supposed to be like 6 while the shimadas were adults when it looks more like the shimadas are teenagers

but still, they trained together, but didnt "grow up together"

[peak escarp]

there's 14 years between Kiriko and Genji

[green pike]

BRO WHO CARES all they care is a one more cute 21 pick me gril who yaps in japanese bcs weebs are parasiting into the game

[peak escarp]

this is the lore discussion channel

we're discussing the lore

[green pike]

i know

i am on it

[peak escarp]

if you dont care, then leave

[green pike]

don't tell me what to do or things are about to get freaky lil bro 😈 🙏

[peak escarp]

?

[green pike]

close ur cheeks lil bro so i could conutnie on discussing lore

so about lore

kiriko is an idiot

her existence is just a way to attract sick people into the game, therefore her existence in the grand scheme of lore is pathetic

[peak escarp]

sure

[green pike]

oh wait you're a mod

[peak escarp]

I am

[green pike]

listen we can talk this out

[peak escarp]

you can stay

as long as you behave

lil bro

[green pike]

thanks

lil bro

[worthy rose]

🐸

[green pike]

what is the possibility of shimadacest to be canon in the grand scheme of lore, good sir?

[worthy rose]

sorry i dont speak english i very bad

[green pike]

ah si... i understand... no english either

[worthy rose]

si senor

[peak escarp]

0%

also I'm not a sir

[worthy rose]

i like DVA

[green pike]

im not even talking to you lil bro

and honestly im not a dude either

which is good

im female

[worthy rose]

i am a sir

guys i confuse

[peak escarp]

and yet you talk like a 12 year old boy on xbox

[green pike]

listen i do not discriminate 12 year old boys on xbox

[lunar steeple]

everyone in this chat cornballs

[worthy rose]

sorry guys in play ps5 no xbox

[peak escarp]

anyway

back to the lore

[green pike]

lets discuss the depth of lore...

well ...

it's not honestly that deep

[worthy rose]

deep

[green pike]

i think its pretty mid

overwatch has lore?

[peak escarp]

I agree, Kiriko's character is pretty weak

[green pike]

i only like shimadas backstory

but not kiriko

shes weirdo and a creep

[peak escarp]

they could have done much better with her

we should have gotten Asa instead

[green pike]

si,,,

[worthy rose]

whos asa

[green pike]

kiriko is a mistake of a human

[turbid minnow]

Real

[peak escarp]

Asa is Kiriko's mother

[worthy rose]

i like dva kiriko mei

[peak escarp]

the swordmaster who taught Genji and Hanzo

[turbid minnow]

Only 2 of those are okay

[green pike]

i hate juno too

dva is cringe af

[turbid minnow]

If Juno’s backstory is bad, I could hate her

[green pike]

i hate dva

[peak escarp]

D.Va has more depth than is shown in the game

[green pike]

she looks like a 12 year old that stole big brother's console

listen her backstory is cringe okay

and her mecha is cringe

[peak escarp]

she's much better in the animation and comics

[green pike]

literally her persona is about being a videogamer and friendzoning a dude and having friends or a team

[turbid minnow]

She’s technically the youngest character

[peak escarp]

Illari is the youngest human hero

[green pike]

how old is she

[peak escarp]

she's 18

[green pike]

whaaaaaaaat

[peak escarp]

D.Va is 21

[green pike]

i thought shes 30-40 but

bruh why make champions so young

thats weird

[turbid minnow]

D.Va’s ow1 design is of a 16 year old tho

So if we’re talking looks

[green pike]

she looks 1

12

but 1 is good too

[peak escarp]

D.Va was 19 in OW1

[turbid minnow]

She wasn’t always 19

[peak escarp]

she was

[turbid minnow]

She wasn’t

[peak escarp]

source?

[turbid minnow]

She was 16 then they changed it for legal reasons

[peak escarp]

they did not

[turbid minnow]

Cuz she had a gun

[peak escarp]

earlier hero designs were younger, but the hero we know as D.Va was always 19

[rare trail]

um ive like heard this before but ive never seen a source for it

[peak escarp]

there's no "legal reason" to make her older

[rare trail]

ive heard theres like some issues with a minor getting shot/shooting people and owuld bump the rating up but idk

[past copper]

They never made her 16. Hana has always been 19. Whatever “legal reasons” you’re referring to from others or from wiki are not reliable

[amber blaze]

can anyone look at my post in gameplay advice?🙏🙏🙏

[soft trench]

There is a channel for that?

[ember marten]

Alright, super serious question.... which overwatch character is the most Alpha?

[peak escarp]

Alpha?

[errant patrol]

Sigma fr

[true quarry]

Sigma is like 67? And if its 2077 then he grew up watching skibidi toilet

Hes def a alpha

[somber void]

if he was real he’d be 11 rn

[keen summit]

Its just a common thing people believe, its likely just cause she was 16 when she became a champion esports person

[rare trail]

its more likely 2079 in

[glad valve]

Junkrat tips?

[rare trail]

youtube #overwatch #overwatch-serious or some coaching channels on this server would be better for that kind of thing'

[glad valve]

Ok where is the coaching

[rancid egret]

the amount of people who don’t read the channel names is crazy

[sullen girder]

Really?! The design on the lower left is considered 19?!

[past copper]

You really have to understand the world of OW

First and foremost, something to consider is that Asia appears to have better genes than most people around the world. So some can look young even in their late thirties

Second, in the world of OW, they’ve actually found a way to increase the human lifespan through science. So one thing to that is the people can appear younger as opposed to their actual age. Ex. Angela

So, when you consider these two factors, then it shouldn’t be odd at all that a 19 year old Korean woman looks younger than she actually appears

[tranquil orbit]

Idk as much as i agree w the ow science logic for adults it's different when u talk prepubescent vs post-pubescent

Changes to appearance dont happen in linear fashion and during those years it's so drastic that idt any amount of science can explain it away

[rare trail]

yeah

the image like isnt super clear but like that doesnt look like a 19yo at all even with the cartoony artstyle in mind

[peak escarp]

that's not D.Va

that's a design from before they settled on D.Va

[peak escarp]

Angela doesn't look that much younger than her actual age

she's only 39

I think all the heroes look their age (within Blizzard's art style, which isn't realistic and has soft lines)

[cosmic raven]

Orisa doesn’t lol

[peak escarp]

Orisa is a robot

[fluid folio]

But tracers 46

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[fluid folio]

36

[peak escarp]

Tracer is 28

[fluid folio]

Buuuuut she somehow is 36 even tho she was 16 during the omnic crisis?

[peak escarp]

she wasn't in the omnic crisis

[fluid folio]

Yes she was buddy

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[fluid folio]

Wait did you play in ow1

Remember the missions in kings row with rein tracer mercy and torb that was her first mission

[peak escarp]

that wasn't the omnic crisis

that was 7 years before Winston's recall

[fluid folio]

Yes it was!

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/B5wDV8x6w7s

the King's Row Uprising was 10 years ago according to the OW2 timeline

[fluid folio]

Nah but how was she given medals with other heroes then?

[peak escarp]

the omnic crisis was 28 years ago

[fluid folio]

For fighting in the war

[peak escarp]

that wasn't for the omnic crisis

[fluid folio]

Yes it was

[peak escarp]

source?

[fluid folio]

Sure

[peak escarp]

there's nothing in this image that indicates that it is for the omnic crisis

also, Winston, Tracer, Cassidy and Mercy were not part of Overwatch during the crisis

the devs admitted that this concept art was made based on the feeling of heroes, with no regard for the actual timeline

which is why Ana looks younger than she should

[fluid folio]

Right ik this is sad but how do I send photo 😭 sorry I downloaded this yesterday

[peak escarp]

you can't

you can send a link to it

[fluid folio]

Ok i see

Another example probably kiri

[peak escarp]

[fluid folio]

What?!

[peak escarp]

everyone brings up Kiriko and uses her as an excuse to say the timeline is completely wrong

[fluid folio]

Ye ik but we r discussing their ages that don't make sense

[fluid folio]

Not the timeline

[peak escarp]

hers is the only one that is wrong

[fluid folio]

Ye k thanks

[peak escarp]

Kiriko should be 26, not 21

[fluid folio]

Older I would say

Genji - 37

[peak escarp]

according to her bio she was 12 when Sojiro Shimada was assassinated

that happened 14 years ago

the math says she should be 26

[fluid folio]

They would train together as kids

[peak escarp]

they trained together when Kiriko was a child

Genji and Hanzo were older

[fluid folio]

https://images.app.goo.gl/R8z4mc4g2qv5EA1s8

They look way to close at the very most 5 years apart

Hanzo-40
Genji-37
Kiriko-32

[peak escarp]

Genji is 11 years older than Kiriko - if she's 5 in that image, he would be 16

[fluid folio]

That's what I think it should be

[peak escarp]

which looks appropriate

[fluid folio]

He ain't 16 hazo might be so genji could be 13 which is stretching it a bit

[peak escarp]

Kiriko could be younger, since kids start kendo training pretty young in Japan

but more likely, the artist wasn't given exact ages and just drew based on their own interpretation

[fluid folio]

Bro look at her and say that she is 3 in a straight face....
She not three

[peak escarp]

the point is, Kiriko and the brothers are not the same age range

Genji and Hanzo saw her as an annoying younger sibling

[fluid folio]

Kiri should be 30-33

[peak escarp]

why

[fluid folio]

It would make good sence

Sense*

[peak escarp]

Her father was a famous bladesmith for the Shimada, and her mother, Asa, was their swordmaster. As such, Kiriko trained alongside Hanzo and Genji Shimada, whom her mother also instructed. Kiriko was treated like family, with Genji being especially fond of the young girl. They shared a love of mischief, filching sweets from the kitchen and pulling pranks on anyone too stuffy to appreciate their humor. Genji taught her the ins and outs of the Shimada Castle and even introduced her to the local arcade.

[fluid folio]

Ye a 16 probly isn't going that with a 5 year old
And a 13 year old ain't doing that with a 2-3 yr old

[peak escarp]

her being younger still makes sense

[fluid folio]

Ye sure

Hanzo-40
Genji-37
Kiriko-32
Accurate ages

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[fluid folio]

☝️🤓

[peak escarp]

you're the one arguing about it

[fluid folio]

No you can't admit that kiri age is off by 10 yrs

[peak escarp]

her age is off by 5 years

she doesn't need to be any older

[fluid folio]

Ok your right well done

[spring fable]

Does anyone have a video that was made recently to explain everything?

[fluid folio]

Ye

https://youtu.be/-aPY1OaEPjs?si=kLkqcTXUogXNzo-a

[fluid folio]

Ist not to detailed but it's alright if you just wanna get an idea of thing

[shell obsidian]

Mirage is such a good legend. I can't believe why everyone thinks revenant is any good

[spring fable]

I never thought I'd feel bad for widow 😭😭

[keen summit]

If you have any questions go ahead and ask

[spring fable]

Where does venture and wife leaver fit in?

And why do the talon agents rejoin overwa

[keen summit]

Well venture is connected to ana, they found seemingly Anubis the god program. Life weaver well. Is on his own

[keen summit]

Nonr did

[spring fable]

So

Lorewise

The reason is

Gameplay basically

Like why are they here

[keen summit]

No, the heroes in the game arent sll part of overwatch

[spring fable]

Because i understand baptiste and to that extent mauga

[spring fable]

Ik that but i would assume

If you fight with overwatch

[keen summit]

The game isnt canon

[spring fable]

You're probably Atleast not part of the group that hates them

[keen summit]

Not even all heroes are affiliated with one of those

[spring fable]

Ashe?

Junkrat hog queen and ramatra right?

They're

Nuetral-ish

And ball

I think

[keen summit]

Yeah ram is allied with talon tho

[spring fable]

O

I guess kiri and hanzo

Too

[keen summit]

But again the game teams are not canon

The game in general is not

[spring fable]

Ik i figured but like why are they playable at least like immediately following the lore events

[keen summit]

More are unaffiliated im pretty sure

[spring fable]

I feel like that'd be a great time to do reworks or patches

But no

JUST CAUSE

My brain can't comprehend

The things not lining up

[keen summit]

Wdym exactly

[spring fable]

Like with reaper

Reyes more specifically

Like

Ow my brain hirts

[keen summit]

Cuz for example in the past and quite often the heroes were kinda built up

[spring fable]

True

[keen summit]

What dont you get?

[spring fable]

Bro honestly my brain hurts

Okay nvm

I think i fixed my own mistake

[keen summit]

Reyes was with overwatch, then blackwatch which is part of overwatch then he "died" and joined talon

[spring fable]

Overwatch takes place starting 2074 right

About that time

[keen summit]

No direct cobfirmation nor do i believe it matters

But yes

[spring fable]

Okay then im dum and thought that reyes was alive during the game

💀

[keen summit]

Wdym?

Ohhh

[spring fable]

I thought overwatch started when the main lore started

[keen summit]

No. Alot happened before the well game

[spring fable]

Like when the UN formed overwatch

[spring fable]

Yeah i got that now

[tranquil orbit]

Theres stuff even before that which is relevant

[keen summit]

Like the game starts at recall woth ow1

[spring fable]

Oh

Oka

[keen summit]

Then in ow2 its a few years after

[spring fable]

But also how does mei fit into

[tranquil orbit]

2 years iirc

[spring fable]

Anything

She's just kinda there

[tranquil orbit]

Shes part of overwatch atm

[keen summit]

With certain changes like dva etc joining overwatch, omnic crisis ryc

[keen summit]

Shes part of overwatch

[spring fable]

D.va feels shoved in too

[spring fable]

I mean ik that

[keen summit]

She answered recall ss one of the earliest

[spring fable]

But kikd

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh i kinda agree

[spring fable]

Why was she therei n the first place

[tranquil orbit]

But shes there too

[keen summit]

Well she was part of overwatch before too

[spring fable]

Like motive

What's exactly is ehe monitoring

[keen summit]

Just in the rvology

[keen summit]

The ecological changes which VERY likely will help them find ramattras base

[tranquil orbit]

They had a whole reasoning abt how she would help OW but theyd also help w the gwishin in korea

[keen summit]

As well rams base is very likely in antartica

[tranquil orbit]

It was outlined in a comic

[spring fable]

Like apparently she just is like forced into it by her forces captain as a team ambassador

[keen summit]

And thats where mei saw in the last years ALOT of polution

[keen summit]

Not really

[tranquil orbit]

Not forced she gave consent to it

[keen summit]

She wanted to

But first was stopped

[spring fable]

Ooooooo

[keen summit]

Then got green light

[tranquil orbit]

But from a writing pov maybe a bit forced 💀

That's just my opinion on it tho

[keen summit]

Absolutely

[spring fable]

It's just so quick like yyyyy

[tranquil orbit]

Of all the new gens i think dva makes the least sense

[spring fable]

Yeah

[keen summit]

Its kore that she had no reason other than responsible girl

[tranquil orbit]

All of the others have fairly decent build up and reasoning

[spring fable]

Also kiri

[keen summit]

I find zarya odd too still

[spring fable]

Kind of

[keen summit]

Kiri isnt with them

[spring fable]

Out of left field

[spring fable]

Ik

But

Like

She might as well have been

[keen summit]

Writing wise she's shit yea

[tranquil orbit]

The zarya one i felt was always gonna happen because of her run ins w sombra and talon

[spring fable]

Yes!

ZARYA WAS MASTERFUL!

CHARACTER, DESIGN, LORE

AMAZING

[keen summit]

Eh its more like i dont resllyvfind her fitting, bap and pharah fit perfectly tho

[spring fable]

It felt right

[tranquil orbit]

Yh also brig and lucio for sure

[spring fable]

Like i half expected it

[keen summit]

Yesh

Lucio for yknow his attitude and brig being torb and rein in one

[spring fable]

Lucio is like 50/50

[keen summit]

Orisa will very likely join too if we get continuation

As now theyre travelling to help

Efi n orisa that is

[tranquil orbit]

I love having lucio there because he's the only one who acc fits the mould of "the amateur"

[spring fable]

Also bastion is just robot with ptsd and emotional support bird

[keen summit]

(very good for ow as orisa is one of the strongest lore wise)

[spring fable]

Yes

[keen summit]

Not really

[tranquil orbit]

He has some experience but he doesnt reeealy know what hes doing all the time

[keen summit]

Hes more of a child

[tranquil orbit]

Because he's so new

[spring fable]

Yeah

[tranquil orbit]

Which i like having around it adds some character diversity

[spring fable]

As a lucio main he embodies that in gameplay too

Only you know wtf is going on with what you're doing usually

An amateur knows what they're doing

But it can be hard for a team to understand

[keen summit]

Uhhh

No?

[spring fable]

Or sometimes not even you know what you're doing

[keen summit]

Its more that he just doesnt really get combat

But he gets moving around

And motivation

[tranquil orbit]

Yh i always suspected he'd be a fairly out of the box thinker despite his lack of professional combat experience

Shame we didnt get to see more

[keen summit]

Lucio is sum alot of teams need, a good motivation type especially public figures

[tranquil orbit]

But his resourcefulness is just as important as his ability to hype ppl up

[spring fable]

Yep

But can i just say tracer makes me sad

Like she's so cheery

[keen summit]

Orisa would be very usefull for overwatch

[spring fable]

But like her and reyes

Are experiments gone wrong basically

[tranquil orbit]

Until widow re appears 👀

[spring fable]

And when you think about it

[tranquil orbit]

Then im not so sure how long the cheery is gonna last

[spring fable]

Yeah

[keen summit]

Tracer is a good showcase of what they try to show with ow,fight for a better future instead of focussing on the past

Reaper is stuck in the past for example

[spring fable]

Iirc wasn't iggy mad she recalled to not get hit by a bullet?

[spring fable]

Yeah

[keen summit]

The core theme of ow is that: fighting fir a better future. Most heroes have a twist or a different version on that theme

[tranquil orbit]

W him it's also a bit different because he cant rly get out of his situation

[spring fable]

But honestly their lives can't be the same because experiments gone wrong and like you said reaper is quite literally stuck in the past

Canf move on if he wants

[tranquil orbit]

He needs moira to keep him alive from what i gather

[spring fable]

Tracer can and does

[tranquil orbit]

Or rather in his not alive not dead state

Because he's basically perma in limbo

[spring fable]

Schrodinger's Reyes

[keen summit]

Yeah i know

[tranquil orbit]

In many ways death for him would be what he wants

[keen summit]

But every hero is made to fit this idea in a way

[tranquil orbit]

Yh a lot of them are experiments

Winston is asw

[keen summit]

All Evil onrs are either stuck in the pastz cant fight for s better future, dont want to or have a twisted view of what needs to happen for a better future

[keen summit]

I meant "for future" wise

[tranquil orbit]

Ahhhh

[spring fable]

Also i hate how vishkar is morally gray

[keen summit]

Moira doom ram all fight for their better future for example

[spring fable]

True

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh i dont see it that way that corp is pretty much straight up evil

They might be capitalists abt it

[keen summit]

Mauga just straight doesnt care

[spring fable]

Well that's because we have the luxury to not be affected good or bad for their actions

But the things they've done are good for some but detrimental to others

The farther you are the easier to judge

[keen summit]

Vishkar rn seems pretty gray but we dont know how far their collaboration with talon goes

[tranquil orbit]

They had their inventor assassinated in a car accident because he wanted to make his technology accessible and they thought it would impact the profit margins 😭

Not to mention the LW situation

[spring fable]

Yeah

[tranquil orbit]

Now I'd say sym is more morally grey

But the corporation absolutely not

[spring fable]

Sym is

I honestly don't know what sym is

[tranquil orbit]

She had a short story recently

Lets just say shes coming abt to changing her mind on a lot of things

[spring fable]

She's more of a bot than a human personality wise

[keen summit]

Sym seems pretty gray, unknowing of how bad her corp REALLY is while believing in their fake goal

[spring fable]

Gray more like colorless

I honestly short circuit whenever she talks

It's like feel things please

[keen summit]

At the end of the day i REALLY hope Sanjay is a character who believes in the ideas of vishkar but goes to the extreme extent

[tranquil orbit]

For me i find vishkar evil in the same way amazon might be or nestle

[keen summit]

And not just haha money

[tranquil orbit]

Hard because vishkar just like most mega corps are massively abt the money

[spring fable]

I just realized why widow is called widow maker besides the spider thing

[tranquil orbit]

But i agree some extra motivation would be nice

[keen summit]

Cuz i like the idea of talon council all having different reasons so sanjay wanting a perfect world so thinks that if talon "resets" the world they cab make it perfect

[spring fable]

They prob will

[tranquil orbit]

I just think it's hard to divorce that from monetary reasons entirely

[keen summit]

I do believe they ACTUALLY believe in the perfection

[spring fable]

Yes

[tranquil orbit]

If they did they wouldnt have had that mysterious car accident incident

[keen summit]

As all their things we saw was constantly everybody needs to act perfectly

[spring fable]

Also hard light technology is kinda under explored

[tranquil orbit]

I think in sanjay's case alone it'd be fine

[spring fable]

We need more exploration on that

[keen summit]

I dont think its yhe only thing

But i do hope sanjay is like that

Cuz it fots the themes

[spring fable]

Are we talking about Satya?

[tranquil orbit]

I also wonder if we'll ever have temporary groups in the OW universe like how DC has the suicide squad and Marvel did the illuminati

[keen summit]

And then u have 3 people with vishkar, lw who is against the "goal" of vishkar. Sym who agreed with the goal but sees what they do for it and doesnt agree, and sanjay who does anything for the gosl

[keen summit]

Sanjay

[spring fable]

Like an i supposed to know who sanjay is?

[keen summit]

Sanjay, above symmetra and is in talon council

[spring fable]

Oh shit i gtg

Also i dunno who you're talking about bye

[keen summit]

The guy on the left

[tranquil orbit]

Yh i think for sanjay in particular i think he's more likely to be motivated by something

[keen summit]

Hes a vishkar member and a talon council member

[tranquil orbit]

A reset as u said

The rest of his company im not so certain

[keen summit]

Yeah, i think its interesting like that, cuz then u have in talon council revenge, evolution, more freedom in science, a reset for perfection and ofcourse the funding

Basically it kinda adds to eachithet

[tranquil orbit]

Most corporations strive for stability and backing orgs like talon here basically kill your profits unless you're into arms

Which maybe thats the reason why

[keen summit]

In a perfect world no experiments would be bad and all humans would be perfect

[tranquil orbit]

Maybe vishkar start making hardlight weapons

[keen summit]

So it would make sense if sanjay believes in what talon wants if he wants perfection

Cuz doom wants to make humans perfect, moira wants perfect science with no limitstions or rules

[tranquil orbit]

Yh i can see that acc

[keen summit]

And then vishkar can also ofcourse rebuild that world

[tranquil orbit]

Youve convinced me on him even tho we havent seen a whole lot just yet

[keen summit]

Yeah, and again its a hope, its also likely its just "vishkar fixes destroyed stuff!"

[tranquil orbit]

The only part im still disagreeing w is how much vishkar are acc in w him and his motivations

[keen summit]

I ngl always believed that he either lies to vishkar or tells them someting different

So say with this he says how profitable it is

Cuz all the destruction

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh idt that makes any sense because talon would basically crash the economy and like i said unless you're into arms trades most companies hate lack of stability

[keen summit]

While in reality he doesn't really care

[tranquil orbit]

Could be he just doesn't tell them

V possible

[keen summit]

I also speculated as we have alot of devisions of the council are all different he might alsi make weapons

Cuz we know they dabble in weapons and alot if talon people use energy guns

Except ofcourse the high ranked ones

Who use their own

[tranquil orbit]

Doomfist w a hardlight shield around the gauntlet is a terrifying thought

[keen summit]

I really hope sanjay gets added eventually

Woth like armor suit with tons of hardlight projectors

[tranquil orbit]

It'd work as long as he doesnt have any turrets

Only condition

[keen summit]

Yeah i always thought male him like an overhealth based tank concept

[tranquil orbit]

Green or purple hardlight would be nice

[keen summit]

And if they want turrets make it kinda like junos thing where he just targets prople

[tranquil orbit]

Thats not rly a turret tho im talking abt deployables

[keen summit]

Ik

[tranquil orbit]

Ohhh u mean like an autolock ability

[keen summit]

But yeah i hope he gets added with that idea

[keen summit]

Uesh for an ability or even ult

Imagine his ult is a strong zoning tool that does dmg to everyone in los

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh I'd love them to explore more what kind of engineer type utility they could give him

Sym's tp and ult are super creative

[keen summit]

Lw is also hella creative

[tranquil orbit]

They kinda dropped the ball when it came to synergising his abilities sadly

They were creative no doubt

[keen summit]

Imagine him creating small shields wherever he gets attacked in lore

Or him being able to create a zone where like anything thats not a bullet gets stopped

So like ans nade interacts with it like a solid eall but primary fire shoots through

[tranquil orbit]

Interesting like an ability blocker

Probably needs some extreme counterplay tho but i see

[keen summit]

Yeah but also would be niche

Cuz alot of stuff would interact still

[tranquil orbit]

Idk i think it'd be rly good without some form of limitation

So many abilities could be stopped

[keen summit]

Ofcourse it would be an ability of itself too

[tranquil orbit]

Nade, storm arrows, flashback, virus, spear, knife etc etc

[keen summit]

Basically the idea is "perfection shortly*

[keen summit]

Storm wouldn't count as its done with primary fire ptobs

But yes

[tranquil orbit]

Tbh it'd probably work better as a brief parry mechanic rather than a big shield

So the counterplay comes w timing it

[keen summit]

I like thst idea, imagine you have like 2 charges and it only lasts maybe a second mad

And if u use it perfectly like on it hitting it it refunds some cd

Man ir making my hero design hairs tingle, imagine a parry based tank

If u use the ability perfectly before something hits its stopped and refunds a gew seconds

And when u use it u have fort

[tranquil orbit]

The parry mechanic is something that was often requested for wrecking ball because it'd give him some minor counterplay vs CC

And in return they wouldnt need to make him 1000 effective hp or whatever he is rn

I'd love to see them try in it general tho

[cerulean scaffold]

why does Reaper say "Oi Widow, Jack Morrison done killed me wife and stole me bloody son, womp womp"? is he depressed?

[peak escarp]

what

[fallow mantle]

I get that reference

[bronze hedge]

i think this references something i have seen

is it the start of the story about a black man and a caucasian girl he found while being followed by undead corpses

[peak escarp]

Reyes's wife isn't dead

[tranquil orbit]

It's just a reference from the boys

The oi hughie meme

Womp womp

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[fluid folio]

Bruv do you just sit on this all day and get pissed at people or do you have something better to do?

[frail berry]

True

[keen summit]

If you have nothing usefull to say then just don't talk

Or go to general chat, its only useless talk there

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel

I am upholding the rules

if you don't like it go to another channel

[spring fable]

Bro it's still a channel about the story of a game

We're allowed to make jokes and references

It's not gonna kill you

[peak escarp]

bro it says serious in the description of the channel

[spring fable]

Well it still isn't shit posting regardless

Making a reference isn't shit posting

[peak escarp]

it is if it's spreading misinformation

[spring fable]

the activity of posting deliberately provocative or off-topic comments on social media, typically in order to upset others or distract from the main conversation.

They were just making a joke

They weren't trying to derail any conversation

[peak escarp]

jokes are supposed to be funny

[spring fable]

Not all jokes are funny to all people

Cool so if we're done with that

How does kiri connect to genji and hanzo

I forgot

[peak escarp]

her mother was their swordmaster

and she trained with them as a child

[spring fable]

Oh

That's why they all can climb walls

That makes sense

Alr thx

Bye

[cursive solstice]

why tf are you practicing ow lore

[hearty estuary]

Why did tracer die and why didnt winston sacrifice himself to her

[marsh jolt]

been thinking about that too

[hearty estuary]

I think wiston might have a grudge against tracer because she didnt kiss him?? is that a long shot?

[worthy rose]

Wtf

[worthy rose]

Why did u even say that

[worthy rose]

Yo☠️

[hearty estuary]

??

c

can you just help me instead of making fun of me??? I just want to learn more!

[fallow mantle]

<@&397922982632226816> naughty video

tfw got a warning for it so reworded

[tawdry mauve]

oi oi oi

[worthy rose]

Ur trying to learn po ......r.....n here not the actualy lore, we are trying to learn thw actual lore

[lunar hawk]

im down

[crisp hawk]

Can you tell me what you mean?

[peak escarp]

this is not the LFG channel

[worthy rose]

Lore chat

Juno lore might go hard

Since she calls mei auntie

That suggests that Juno’s mom knew mei

Idk just a thought

They should make more cinematics

[crisp hawk]

ok sorry

[peak escarp]

it's implied that Juno's mom is Mei's friend from grad school, Jiayi

[worthy rose]

Ohhh

That makes sense

Also are the comics canon

I haven’t read them all but ik there’s a good few of them

[peak escarp]

most of them

[worthy rose]

I see

[spring fable]

Auntie is a term of endearment for an older friend of your parents or grandparents

I don't get the big deal

Even if they are related

What does that mean?

[worthy rose]

I guess it’s like

An old friend

Not like a past thing

Just an older person I guess

[spring fable]

Yeah

But what impact does it really have anyways

[hearty estuary]

WTF DO YOU MEAN??? How can you make p*rn out of a game? Are you dumb? I just want to know the lore?? Why did tracer die and why didnt winston save her?

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[river willow]

bastion gay???? confirmed??

[hearty estuary]

Is he really???? I always thought he had a weird vibe but didn't think that he was gay. But now that I think about it it makes sense.

[hushed jetty]

i genuinely dont even think bastion knows what sex and/or romance is

[bronze hedge]

i will make him know what it is

[smoky tendon]

stop spreading misinformation, please

[peak escarp]

Tracer didn't die

oh

nevermind

[steel cove]

Thats a whole ass gorrilla bro what

[rancid egret]

in the lore is hammond just a junker? or is he doing things now im not really caught up

[spare fox]

as of the end of the last story he's basically working for Junkerqueen as her champ and sort of chief engineer

he has just alerted Horizon specimens that Lucheng is still spying on them, stole some equiptment from Lucheng, and is now getting an omnic aircraft (which was junkrat's treasure) flying for the queen

that's where we left off with him

[minor nexus]

Is there a scientific explanation for why Hanzo can shoot a spirit dragon

[peak escarp]

no

it's magic

or at least, it's energy made to look like magic

[turbid minnow]

No but it’s not magic cuz I don’t think magic exists

I think Overwatch is just really technologically advanced but still our world

[bronze hedge]

its 207X

it cant be that advanced

we domt even have flying cars!

[tranquil orbit]

Tbf the date is unimportant because none of the technology represented in the story is an attempt to be a realistic development from our current time

[vital flare]

Cancel me all you want but the best ship and most realistic is Dvattra

[frail gale]

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING

[tranquil orbit]

Ik this is trolling but "most realistic" for 2 characters that have never even met is something 💀

[scenic parcel]

I think there is certain "magic" things like shimada dragons, kiriko fox spirit and zenyattas iris

Etc

But they're only magic because they have no scientific explanation

[merry token]

Yeah, actual most realistic would probably be Genji/Mercy 😭

[scenic parcel]

There's probably more magic stuff too

[turbid minnow]

They do tho

They have entire robotic armies

[turbid minnow]

I think Blizzard just calls that technology

It’s not

But they say it is

[scenic parcel]

It's science fiction for a reason

[turbid minnow]

They’re very strict with no magic from what I’ve heard

[scenic parcel]

Maybe

But hanzo says that only a shimada can wield a dragon in their cinematic

Which doesn't suggest technology

[turbid minnow]

It’s password protected dawg

[hoary sand]

mauga and bap have lots of sexual tension ngl

have you heard their voice lines?

[merry token]

Their author intended to write them as exes but in the actual Blizzard approved canon they’re just ex friends/coworkers

[hoary sand]

ohhhh

well fuck that censorship new canon is exes

[peak escarp]

they have consistently called Kiriko's fox a spirit

it is never called technology

[left gull]

Whats the lore behind widowmakers big bum

[verbal hornet]

EXACTLY.. now who’s the top

[hoary sand]

i mean it has to be mauga

like be frl

dudes 7 foot and like 400 pounds hows bap gon fuck that

[verbal hornet]

LMAOAO and baps a pretty boy def makes sense

[spring fable]

Why is ram bigger than the other monks?

[fallow mantle]

He's an R-7000 Ravager which are just that size

[swift notch]

gggg ggg ggyattt

[cyan totem]

Who designed genji’s cyborg body to have that perfect butt

[swift notch]

dr doofinschmirtz of course

[peak escarp]

Overwatch's cybernetics team

[left gull]

Me

It was me

[verbal hornet]

anybody else notice the dead bastions on that grassy push map?

eichenwalde

[peak escarp]

there as a great battle there, where the German crusaders made a stand against a legion of bastion units

https://youtu.be/sQfk5HykiEk

[blazing fulcrum]

is there any word on new cinematics

[peak escarp]

not currently

[blazing fulcrum]

sad

[light glen]

would orisa win against a or15?

[rare trail]

yes

[bronze hedge]

orisa is a upgraded OR15

so...

[patent trench]

Does magic exist in Overwatch? Most of the characters have some sci-fi robotic reasons but zen floating, his orbs floating and the shimada trio all have that connection to spirited creatures

[spring fable]

I don't think necessarily magic

Because spirits aren't technically magic depending on how you look at them

They could be their own thing

Zenyata might just also have connections to spirits

But if it was magic i would assume it would be more prominent considering everything

[patent trench]

The Dragons in the Genji and Hanzo cinematic are shown to literally come out of Hanzo’s body and the kitsune fox has been shown to interact with Kiriko with that one emote

https://tenor.com/view/hanzo-genji-battle-brothers-ultimate-gif-13381737

god dammit

but you get my point

[spring fable]

Well i mean is the kitsune a spirit absolutely it's out right stated

But spirits are in the weird area where they have access to magic depending on the myth or story

But aren't necessarily magic themselves

[spring fable]

Genji i think uses technology to manifest a dragon like projection or both he and hanzo have connections to a dragon spirit

So to answer your question maybe

It sort of depends on how you interpret the story

[patent trench]

interpretion of story can be a stretch when it comes to explaining these spirits

[spring fable]

Well are spirits magic or are they their own thing.

How do you interpret a spirit

That's what it boils down to

I mean it does lean more to the magic side with kirkos magic paper but is it what's written on the paper or is it the kitsune

I dunno

You do you

That's all i gotta say

[patent trench]

its gonna be explained as highly advanced holograms i swear lol

[grand wedge]

let's say that before Kiriko was there, magic wasn't a thing in OW. Kiriko healing/tp looks like magic, and the devs have been on radio silence ever since.
But having magic/spititual/superhero abilities does expend the future heroes abilities they can give them, but at the cost of their original sci-fi worldbuilding...

[patent trench]

what is illaris light/sun powers exactly? is it just like heavily compressed light having the power of the sun?

[peak escarp]

pretty much

[verbal hornet]

thank u

[spring fable]

Is it worth it tho?

[grand wedge]

Imo, no.

[spring fable]

Was kiri before or after zen?

Because zen is just kinda floating

[fallow mantle]

after

[spring fable]

So some form of magic/spirits/energy does because sigma says zenyata doesn't have any form of anti gravity technology.

[fallow mantle]

And Sigma would know - he's the reason that cars float, after all. andyouknow,thewholegravityisaharnessthing

[spring fable]

Yeah

So enlightened omnics have some form of divine intervention or magic

[hushed jetty]

at least zenyatta does. we havent really seen any other enlightened omnics

[scarlet apex]

Is it ever mentioned what renewable resource was discovered for the mid-late 21st century to be so advanced?

[spring fable]

I think omnium

[hushed jetty]

no, omniums were factories built by omnica

[spare fox]

A huge part of it was Dr. De Kuiper's (Sigma) advances in gravitational studies

Also the founder of Vishkar and hard light tech

[scarlet apex]

So something something rotational energy

[tranquil orbit]

theres a few other things asw

super coral and advanced sea walls

[spare fox]

Yup

[scarlet apex]

It has to be easily renewable too since the omnics have to be able to be powered on indefinitely

[tranquil orbit]

there was also an algae experiment done by a Dr. Borda

basically using them as a type of solar panel

kind of niche

it's important to say tho that the world of OW didnt completely solve the climate crisis because that's one of the reasons why anubis seeks to end humanity

[hushed jetty]

im not sure if the omnics are indefinitely powered or just powered for a Really Really long time

we dont really know how any of them work except for bastion and his 3 bigass power cores and bastion wasnt even made by the same company

[tranquil orbit]

tbh i think it's long enough that we dont rly need to worry abt it

otherwise u best believe ram would be making a big fuss abt it

rather atm it's simply the issue of being a "single generation race"

[swift notch]

TUSK ACT 4 ‼️

[past copper]

So, you thinking the energy from a black hole would be better than nuclear fusion energy?

Sigma might have been on to something, but since it appears his experiment caused an accident and his research lost, seems we will never know

Not unless he regains his sanity, which could take years

[scarlet apex]

yes i was literally thinking of the spin 🗿

[merry mason]

I really need to get this book. Detailed explanations on how the technology works and the logistical challenges and political effects of implementing them is exactly what I wanted in overwatch lore.

Where did you get this paragraph? Is it a digital copy?

[tranquil orbit]

Yes it is i have a pdf

If u want i can send?

Lmk if you're interested

[rain marlin]

Yo guys

So

Sigma theory dumping!!!!

First theory

Well

These are more like questions

First question

Is sigma like tracer needing his suit to survive?

[tranquil orbit]

Probably no because we see him without it post-accident

And his asylum skin

[rain marlin]

I mean

We also saw tracer without it

But she was time hopping