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Something I love to do in games is play ow lore trivia w people
Like who are the two Swedish hero’s
Or who’s first name is Gabriel
Shit like that
If u ask the mason howl q thats definitely going to be a harder one
For sure
ahem venture
But w the news of space ranger coming from the Mars colony
Literally don’t see how they fit in
I think theyre going more in that direction
venture fought talon for a relic
And keeping horizon abandoned
i imagine they'll make a mars map as a clash version of horizon lunar colony
i also expect space ranger to have some connection to lucheng interstellar
Idk if it'd replace it tbf
yeah
I think horizon lunar colony is too iconic a location to just be swapped out like that
Fr
I mean 2 of the characters are literallt from there
Have you seen what it looks like now
It's still hanaoka right next to it tho
yes ive seen hanaoka
Mars is a whole new body in space
No I mean Hannamura
It’s like completely unplayable and there’s a bunch of things missing and the whole maps moved etc
I agree that theyll defo do a mars colony map
they removed hanamura for some reason idk why
I think it’ll be a bit
I just dont know if that it'll be the clash version of HLC
prob bc they built hanaoka on hanamura
This is why
but anyway space ranger will probably be related to horizon
maybe she's met winston or something
They used the file from hanamaura to make Hanaoka
or sigma even
Think she works for lucheng interstellar
Who also owned horizon before the accident
Accident?
the gorillas killing everyone
The apes went feral
Yh apart from winton
And the hampter escaped
Hammond will always be devious tho so i cant count him out from that
I think theres some hinting that space ranger might acc be mei's friend who she says works for lucheng interstellar in a voiceline
For lijang tower i think
its possible
Acc now that i think abt it
The biggest indication that HLC is coming back is the fact that every new ow2 hero has had a telescope voiceline added
Idt they would go through all the effort if it wasnt part of tbe plan
I think the 3rd hero that’s coming out later this year might be a junker, I mean we only saw a tiny icon of them but they seem junker worthy
Where
During blizzcon when they showed us an early gameplay preview of venture
No I just watched the stream.
I kinda hope theyre a fresh take on a junker character IF they are one
Ah
We already have 3 plus hammond who kinda counts so something new ish would be nice
This guy
Spiky turtle looking dude
Also I just found this https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/17x23kb/new_unamed_tank_hero_teased_in_blizzcon_might_be/#lightbox
Ppl saying it was greta tbh i dont see it
Mainly because in venture and space ranger's doodles u can make them out as clearly humanoid
That being said a spiky turtle-y looking character definitely fits the junkertown aesthetic
It could also be a fresh take on one of the older heroes from titan that never got released
It would be cool if this guy is another junker, that would make it our 5th junker here
Im acc not crazy abt it being another junker for this exact reason 😭
If they are it'd better be a fresh take so theres some variety
that would make FOUR JUNKERS IN TANK
i hope its not a junker just because theyre so disproportional
Also just looked at the 2nd picture to the Reddit link, I don’t think it’ll be him though, feels like it’s too obvious
Um actually Hammond was a junker once so technically it’s still 5th
U see for the venture and space ranger doodles u can make out their humanoid figure v clearly
Idt greta would be looking like that in their icon
hammond was a junker yeah
roadhog, junker queen, hammond, potential new tank makes four 🤯 🤯 🤯
who did you think i thought the other tank was???
You forgot junkrat
I was talking about how many junkers total not how many junkers that are tanks
i literally said in the message you replied to "in tank" 😭
Pretty insane when u put it like that
i mean like talon is kinda overrepresented in tank but also like
talon matters and is super important to the story
and junkers arent really
Ig it's because brute archetypes are often used for tanks and dps
The only talon support we rly have is moira
supp is like half ow people lol
Maybe illari though if that comes true
50% are in overwatch lol
(Pls be true)
ana bap lucio mercy brig
Now that I think about it, we need more people from viskar (or people who use to work there at least) the only ones here are sym and lw
im actually not sure if lucio ended up joining
idk
vishkar isnt really important to stuff thats happening
Lucio is in it for null sector like sojourn but is almost certainly going to stay until Vishkar related stuff happens
He's too keen to give it up
did orisa like actually join overwatch
Wouldnt mind a more evil leaning vishkar architect
i havent read the new comic w/her
Theyre lacking in those
whats the like
talon vishkar guy
sanjay
he could be cool
tank is
33% overwatch
25% junkers
25% talon
9% numbani
9% null sector
Tbh i think sanjays a bit too bland to use in game as a character design 😭
i mean they could change up his char design
Like he's cool in principle but doesnt stand out enough visually
like they gave ramattra nemesis and stuff
Some red or purple hard light would be nice
A bit like how lw uses pink/yellow
And sym uses blue
Trust that's gonna happen in the story eventually aswwww
i wonder what like the good/evil ratio of each role is
Idk ig i always saw sanjay as more of a maximillian type character
Unrelated but do you think that mauga might have a thing for doctors?
If his flirting w mercy is anytbing to go by
Then YES
Keep that man away from anyone w medical expertise
flirting with someone who is a doctor doesnt mean you have a thing for doctors though
Bap included
https://x.com/mushroomiiee/status/1780320813452792282?s=61 for those who aren’t seen it yet
like mauga might flirt with mercy and she just happens to be a doctor
It's mostly joking tbh 😭
i dont remember if he flirts with bap
But between baptiste and mercy there might be a pattern
Technically he doesnt rly
It's more homosocial kinda stuff than explicitly flirting
But ppl definitely think mauga and baptiste might have had some history together
And I also found this Fanart https://x.com/kennylikessalt/status/1780346643356721337?s=61
yeah the writer kinda like soft confirmed it
Yh keep this man away from the supports
Just like in game
Drains all the healing resources
tank good evil ratio is
33% evil !!
42% good :D
25% junkers theyre kinda like chaotic but not really evil
I think generally theres a lot more traditionally 'good' characters in the cast
Maybe it's because OW character bias
I mean it kinda has to it's the name of the game
well like on support its a LOT less balanced
Originally ppl thought baptiste was gonna be the one to shake things up but he's active OW
Zen and lw i wouldnt say are neutral
Faction wise yh
60% good on support 😭 and thats being super genrous with 30% neutral
But tbh i rate their morals more than certain ow members
yea theyre definitely more good
80% good counting lw as neutral though is like crazy
Illari on the other hand might be up to no good 👀
I'll be looking for any possible hints on runasapi
Considering theyre probably never gonna release more material for her 😭
Theres a few like ashe, sombra, reaper off the top of my head
Ashe is kinda a weird one
Because idt anyone would acc wanna be friends w ashe irl but she is factionally neutral ish
dps
56% good
17% evil
28% idk neutral
neutral was junkrat sym hanzo ashe soldier btw
actually idk if its fair to put soldier there but not ana
wait im dumb sorry
Oh uhh about viskhar, I found some art on Twitter if lucio was at vishkar in the reverse universe. I can show it to you if you like
Ana is definitely more morallt upstanding than mr vigilante 'i think we did the right thing in hanamura' 76 over here
Here they are, viskar lucio. (Forgot the names of the artists though)
damn i dont have reg yet so i cant post the like tierliust of good/evil
ill just do the %
Tbh id like it if we acc get to see a rotating villain cast rather than dealing w the factions 1 at a time
It's like xmen ppl keep coming back
Like sometimes it'll be doomfist sometimes vishkar will be the issue etc
Tbh im probably thinking too big they have 0 plans for that 😭
this is kinda not accurate
i counted sigma as part of talon so evil but liek hes not really
Kinda makes sense because a lot of the dps cast are og characters
Been in the game for so long so maybe theres a better chance of balance
yea also dps is like the biggest role so its affecting the like ratio a lot
where can i find concepts of extended mirrorwatch stuff
i.e. vishkar rat, vishkar hog, junker winston, overwatch ashe
also i've been wondering
do the cassidy and baptiste skins in the battle pass have any custom voice lines?
Probably on tumblr, deviantart, instagram
Twinning
Reasoning behind Pharah’s dad’s surname being English
https://x.com/seananmcguire/status/1723056396638314544?s=46&t=CUX_YIJGrE60CM9k0aYUrA
In prepping for OVERWATCH: DECLASSIFIED, I was given a lot of existing information on characters, and freedom to make up new lore to patch gaps. Ana's ex-husband, Sam, was already existing, but also fell into several gaps.
making overwatch ocs is so so fun 
I have an Overwatch OC, their name is junkgrunt. They are junkerqueens secret lover but on the surface looks like just a grunt. Junkgrunt is def the dom in the relationship
Ok, can we not compare ocs to other characters please. Respect my ideas or just leave the chat
this isn't the place to discuss OCs
Yes it is
no it isn't
It’s lore accurate
this is a place for discussing lore
Head canons are lore
which does not belong here
They all are in this chat
read the description of the channel
I have an oc named road junk he’s the offspring of roadhog and junker queen. He’s a flying character who is a tank
Thoughts ?
Serious discussion of the Overwatch universe's lore. Fan fiction is not canon and should not be discussed here. Shitposting will result in loss of access.
It’s not that serious
Good take! I think a flying more mobile take is something the game needs!
this is a serious discussion channel
Yes we are having serious discussion too
if you want to discuss ocs or headcanons, go to #overwatch
I think I’ll stay here
You aren’t the warden bro just let us discuss head canons if we want
I am a mod
I am enforcing the rules of the channel
if you have a problem with that, take it up with modmail
Your taking this a little too seriously
We’re still talking overwatch
It’s not like we are trolling
Fan fiction is not canon and should not be discussed here.
It doesn’t matter
it does
that is irrelevant
the whole point of having separate channels is to have each disucssion in the right place
It’s not the end of the world if I discuss headcanons in this Chanel
Channel
You gotta chill
I bet ik more lore than you anyways
lol no
What did I walk into?
Um anyway. I wanted to ask is mercyndoing any research or thesis atm?
right now she's helping Winston and Overwatch fight Null Sector
Oh guess she has no time to for that.
What about moira?
The recent voicelines she got just had me wondering what do they do when they aren't in the field
Moira's got her own projects
she seems to be experimenting on herself, which is making the damage to her arm spread further up
They can't expend talon grunts for her to use?
Lol, maybe she got tired of waiting for the next batch and started experimenting on herself
I don’t remember the exact reason, but if we’re going off general assumptions. Most talon stuff we see during any games are technically robotic because of the whole “overwatch is a kids game = no actual on screen death”, but I do agree that realistically without overwatch’s age rating, Moira likely would get a pretty steady stream of regular human people to test her hypothesis on.
But I also think Moira is just flat out unhinged. Like Warlord said above, she gets the best and most intriguing results when using herself as a test subject. I think it’s a mix of the control she has, and the fact one of her voice lines claim “I work better with a deadline” when someone comments on her decaying body.
What do you think her end goal is though?
is it true that cassidy and hanzo is a thing
Does she want to become a better version of Reaper?
No they haven't even met
They could just make her human experiments of screen to get passed the age rate
As long as it isn't on screen I'm sure there are things they can get away with
Isn't it like the betterment of humanity? Or something along those lines. But is too impatient to take the safe path
they already are
she's implied to have done experiments on many Talon agents, including Widowmaker
the Talon agents you shot in Retribution and Storm Rising were human
they may be lore wise but in game they’re not shown as such because the game itself has an age rating
there's blood in the game when you shoot them
widow, reaper, sigma, etc. is there anyone she hasn’t messed with lmfao
Sombra seems pretty outwardly hostile towards Moira if anything, so yeah im willing to bet on that.
has she done anything to mauga
possibly
shes not mentioned in his bio
well he does have a lot of physical alterations right?
does she have voicelines or anything
There's the line she has with mauga about his supplements which I wonder if there's an implication that Moira supplies those supplements
And if that's the case, then what are they?
with how Moira is the talon support, more than likely she is the one supplying him. As far as what they are, I’m guessing anything from straight up steroids, to some kind of cardiovascular medication, considering what he’s got going on inside of his torso and all
the Talon Heavy unit is described as having genetic modifications from Talon, and since Mauga is a Talon Heavy I assumed that applied to him too
calling him a “heavy” is so crazy. blizzard ain’t even tryna hide it no more
some of them have a lot of similar abilities, designs, and concepts yah
What map is the first clip with venture? Ayutthaya?
can we keep this channel to lore discussion only please?
?
Last time I checked, TF2 isn’t actually a part of the overwatch lore…
Exactly you were on my ass about head canons while your talking abt a different game that’s not lore
we were discussing how "Talon Heavy" sounded similar to the Heavy in TF2
it's not
neither is this :3
Go to a different channel
but it was part of a lore discussion
That’s more of an overwatch chat
No it’s not
The status and likeness of tf2 to overwatch has nothing to do with lore
lol
Those universes are seperate
stop
complaining about it also has nothing to with lore :D
Take it to a different channel if your gonna talk abt that lore warlord
Serious discussion of the Overwatch universe's lore. Fan fiction is not canon and should not be discussed here. Shitposting will result in loss of access.
Overwatch universes lore
Tf2 doesn’t exist in the overwatch universe
Talk it to another channel 👍
Take
no one talked about fan fiction 😭
they were talking about maugas lore smh
we were talking about Mauga and someone brought up TF2
you are not a mod
I did not threaten to ban you
where?
You don’t even keep it just about lore
you’re* 👍
Correcting grammar isn’t lore 👍
whining isnt lore 👍
you are allowed to discuss other topics when they are brought up in relation to the lore
I’m helping enforce the rules
why? you aren't a moderator
you are not a mod
thats not lore tho :P
Tf2 doesn’t have any relevancy to lore
you don't need to enforce rules
did you even read the entire conversation?
take an hour to cool off buddy
Yep
I have a new theory… What if hanzo and genii aren’t brothers but are actually father and daughter but genji switched to a man when he was 7… and hanzos bow was crafted by reinhardts ancient grandfather who served in the chinese military…
wtf
Hmmm interesting
I see how some of that could work because in the cinematic there is more of a Cauthen daughter relationship I feel
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
*father
yeah i definitely could see that becoming a new big theory in the overwatch lore…
I thought kiriko was ganji’s daughter
no
what
Genji doesn't have any children
its stated they grew up together
the only characters with children are ana and torb
mercy is older than genji
but like genjis and hanzos age dont make sense with how old kiriko is
it is not stated they "grew up together"
they didn't grow up together
they trained together when Kiriko was a kid
what about reaper?
That’s confirmed as of now
oh and reaper i guess
but you could kinda say they spent their time together
or ig the kid in reflections could be the new husbands
Kiriko is the daughter of Genji and Hanzo's master
actually is the kid in the reflections comic reaper's kid or just martina's
it's Reaper's son
ah
so then 3 heroes with children
yes
Wait what was the cinematic about genji and Ana’s relationship about?
?
what
what cinematic?
Idk I saw it on some forum
i dont think weve seen genji and ana interact even once in lore
Like young love or something
no
yeah ana and genji were caught in that one cinematic. that’s why i believe that hanzo may be the father to genji.
Oh so it was a foney?
!!shitposting @empty vine
@empty vine Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
presumably it was fanmade or someone just lying
Ana has not appeared in any cinematics
Genji's father was Sojiro Shimada - he was assassinated by the Hashimoto
i would say "she should" but she's been in a comic and like. 2 short stories now
i think we're good on ana content
ana and genji literally were seen making love in a cinematic on reddit
Lore masters help me understand: Is Lucio a Overwatch member since OW1 or he just joined in the story mode of 2?
i saw it on a reddit post
he joined in the story mode of 2
I saw the same thing but with mauga
Then his OW 1 skin is just how he looked like, right? Or is it OW 2 happens after the OW 1 cinematic where Winston is calling everyone
He is a solo character based off a fan of the game, he is just a figment of monkeys imagination
On r/rule34overwatch
Or so I have been told
ow2 happens 2 years after ow1
his ow1 skin is how he looked at recall
not true.
ye thats why everyone looks different
I thought it was right after the recall cinematic because Lucio just joined in the story. I also thought Lucio was a member before already
@hushed jetty you have made the trivial mistake of failing to account for the abundance of lore on the r/rule34overwatch subreddit
Oh is there a lot of lore on there, maybe I’ll go check it out. I have been wanting to read up on more
...
Not much reading more of a visual representation
Only issue is I have to clean my screen off after watching the lore
Oh cool, my computer wouldn’t let me go on it because it’s 18+, is it like manga panels?
Wait can you send some, I want to see
ok anyways
i think itd be cool to het more slice of life stuff
like what the characters are doing on the average day yfm
Best part of the story mode for me was seeing Lucio’s house
Hello? Did you see my chat
fr, thats nice
i also liked the chat logs
i like seeing where characters live. mauga's house was a nice surprise
I have never seen his house 😭
it's his club
oh nevermind I misread
THATS HIS HOUSE???
it has his shirt 😭 ?
Entrance gif
in lore discussion?
Lifeweaver favorite animal is rose
I think Reaper and Lifeweaver are the only two that don't have a response
Unrelated but I’ll be honest, it’ll feel weird when I get the new mythic. I’m always use to using the pink skin (don’t judge) since it’s the only one with different sound effects
Hammond?
oh yeah
im predicting a really fancy bird for lifeweaver. peacock maybe, or a bird of paradise
reaper idek
any canadians here? dmme and ill give you something for a favor
I say deer bc we saw one in his origin story and also antlers = tree branches
would mirrorverse/vishkar roadhog still hide his face?
I’d like to imagine Australia got gentrified instead of India and that’s where Vishkar came to be
Random asl but is it just me noticing the similarity of mercy’s purple color scheme for her mythic kindave similar to moira’s ow2 default? It feels like it was intentional imo considering they’re basically opposites of each other-
Idk abt the blue set tho
saving this ty
isn’t the blue vishkar or however it’s spelt
WAIT RLLY?
That would actually be so cool if thats the case cus idk
I didnt even know the other color options actually had meaning already, I honestly thought they were just there for the sake of it and I was just theorizing lol
red is talon color palette, blue is vishkar colors, purple is either ns or moira
im back 👿
behave this time or you won't be

Oh dear
any canadians here? dmme and i’ll give you something for a favour
So, I’ve been thinking. We saw a cyberpunk theme in the first season
Wonder if we could see a steampunk theme at some point
Got a number of heroes with skins for it
I'm sure we're going to see steampunk eventually
I hope so, I like the steampunk aesthetic
and solarpunk, but that's less likely (and less well known)
get AWAY from her oh my god.......
drinks w mauga definitely gotta be one of the maddest experiences someone can have in life
also i think solar punk is definitely on the cards the art team is defo aware of it because theyve implemented some elements in their concept art for maps like numbani, suravasa
ig the only thing to think abt is how u would implement it for hero skins but idt it should be too hard
i mean hanzo has that cat emote anything goes 😭
I already can see some steampunk skins. Torbjörn and Bastion are already there
But others I see are Reinhardt, Orisa, Roadhog, Junkrat, Echo, Venture, Lucio, Mercy, Moira
Android botch wut her name
Sooo, how excited are you guys? Mirrorwatch event is coming in tomorrow and we’ll finally see some lore related voicelines
very 
I feel like the mirrorwatch event is gonna be 3v3 cause they only made 3 reverse overwatch skins
We did get steampunk torb some time ago
possibly
but itd be weird for overwatch side to get only 3 options while talonside has like 6
Maybe they will use scientist moira for the overwatch side
we dont know what his actual limits are
the only thing we've seen him do is levitate those little orb things
imagine if the whole mecha squad was added to overwatch
isn’t that what they’re literally planning to do
what
I think they may be referring to the first archive event where null sector attacked that omnic living place in london
That’s not even close to what happened
Null Sector wasn’t “provoked”
Ramattra hates humanity for the way they treat his fellow omnics and created Null Sector to take a stand for all omnics
He sent them to attack King’s Row solely because he watched how his fellow omnics were forced into manual labor by armed guards, forced to live in cramped basements, and others discarded like trash
It wasn’t that anyone provoked him. It’s just that Ramattra wanted to attack and take control the cruelest city towards omnics in order to send a message to both humanity and omnics alike
so when mirrorwatch drops in a few hours yall are gonna be sharing all the interactions and lore you find right. right. right. right
they really gave custom voice lines to camo/stealth echo
I wonder what all the side characters are like in mirrorwatch.
Is Gerard part of Talon?
Is Emily dead?
Is Izzy a human blatantly ignorant of omicism?
also can someone confirm whether or not the monk skins for ramattra have custom voice lines?
because if camo/stealth echo can get them, i assume monk ramattra would have them too
Monk Ramattra voicelines: 🪦
monk ramattra isnt mirrorwatch, thats in the past when he was part of shambali
I mean...he could be the same in mirrorwatch, he never went past his monk self
similiar to how gwishin bastion and stealth echo weren't designed with mirrorwatch in mind
yeah thats what i was getting here
in mirrorwatch he's Dead
presumably swapped with mondatta
i imagine he'd look different
also to this, I feel like gerard should still be dead in mirrorwatch as I feel like it's a core part of widow's personality
mercy has several diff respawn lines that r cold as fuck
but can we pretend mirrorwatch ramattra isn't dead for a sec
which would then bring the question as to how he died
i just want custom voice lines
I’m choosing to believe something happened between Emily and Tracer and that was one of the things that caused her to join Talon
sadly rams one of the more neglected ow2 heros so i dont think thatll happen
the entire thing with widow's personality is that she's been brain-hijacked by talon and had her emotions dimmed After she Killed Gerard
if she's in overwatch presumably that didnt happen
Yeah
Maybe Talon killed him and that’s why she signed up
but her loneliness is a part of her character
her loneliness is not part of her main character it is a given aspect due to her situation within talon and the events she's faced
I could see Talon brainwashing him instead and her killing him in self defense for that 🌟 TRAUMA🌟
gerard is most likely alive
Ooo yes
i need at least one universe where he's alive please god 😭
No, we require the ✨Trauma✨
A little bit of drama and spice
Never happening because the tracer x widowmaker shippers would have all of blizzard assassinated 
HES ALIVE IN THIS VERSE 😭 tracer and widow as a ship is kinda dookie anyway in my op
plus their shippers arent that srs
oh they are definitely serious
widowtracer has been a ship since alive came out my brotha do you think they arent serious
they are not as bad as mercy genji and pharmacy shippers fighting over who the better partner for mercy is
no no i know that
Ok so here’s an idea
Tracer was a member of Overwatch, but then something happened which resulted in Emily getting killed, and Tracer blamed her death on Overwatch
i figured when i started getting in ow that theyd be a popular ship
btw mirrorwatch echo still says "You're one of Talon's best? Interesting."
mercy / moira toxic exes for me personally
I'd argue widowtracer is a bit...more calm nowadays since tracer has a relationship already
(compared to other ships)
why couldn't they get her to say "You're one of Overwatch's best? Intersting."
Yeah a lot of the characters still have their original voicelines
but then again they did nothing for mirrorwatch tracer
Maybe they couldn’t get the VAs in time?
mirrorwatch echo HAS custom voice lines since this update
leaving out the talon voice line is just offputting
is mirrorwatch echo specifically in talon
I think she might be based on her design?
with echo being an outlaw
Echo in a cowboy hat
I love that winpose so much
who do you think arrests mirrorwatch ashe and offers her a place in overwatch
could be anyone really
imma think mirrorwatch tracer if she's a parallel to normalverse reaper
Where is Reaper in all this anyway
coping over his loss of ability to spam voice lines
he and soldier both just died during that one event
idk he doesnt have a skin
that's it
he's Somewhere
they just didn't come back to life
hmm i think mirrorwatch reaper and moira would be normalverse's s76 and ana
but then that means moira would have a kid
okay but Did the swiss hq explode actually because that was one of the last things that happened before overwatch shut down
so if overwatch is still active it might not have happened (yet)
mirror moira probably looks the exact same seeing as her whole gimmick ingame is the balance of healing and damage 🤔
They all have uniforms, my bet is on them still being official in this universe
right
but she'd have more ethical morals than normal moira
yeah
I was thinking that too, I get Reaper-esque vibes from her
actually she would probably look like blackwatch moira but with the overwatch palette
would mirrorwatch maximillien be the one who gets stuck in a crate and gets saved
mirrorwatch ashe apprehends mirrowatch cassidy, and rescues mirrorwatch maximillien who can fly
the comic where reaper watches his son but it's tracer watching emily having moved on from her after she disappeared (idc if they met after that)
ive seen people saying max might be swapped with iggy
Ow
i think it'd be funnier if maximillien swapped with echo
Oh my gods yes
if not then maybe glitchbot could become echo
Where is Junker Winton and Scientist Ham
not glitchbot 😭
do you think junker winton would hide his identity from everyone except junker sym
and would overwatch hammond still need a translator
What if Mirrorwatch Winston is the human Winston
and who would be the leader in mirrorwatch vishkar
what would mirrorwatch lifeweaver have a profession in
died after the gorillas lost their shit
He got spaced
how would dva, venture and illari even fit in mirrorwatch
dva prob talon
not the humans killing all the gorillas in mirrorwatch 😭
I feel they’d be unchanged
Since they’re neither Overwatch nor Talon
maybe mirrorwatch illari just dies with every other inti warrior still alive
Ouch
mirrorwatch kiriko be like: I am way older than genji and hanzo
speaking of mirrorwatch kiriko and hanzo
No he’d be a junker in mirrorwatch, just like how Hammond use to be
do they have custom voice lines
Her fox spirit is now a cat
to be fair i dont think swaps have to be directly overwatch -> talon and vice versa, because genji is a junker for some ungodly reason
would mirrorwatch sigma still be clinically insane
He’s the one sane character
I'd find it funny if mirrorwatch sigma was just the same
sigma is the same across every universe
that explains why mirrorwatch doom moans so much
He was defeated by Hanzo then rescued by Junkrat and Roadhog?
his insanity is just all sigmas sharing a consciousness across time and space
this implies junkrat and roadhog were still junkers though
You might be onto something
which is probably untrue
nah he killed hanzo and for whatever reason decided becoming a junker is his way of coping/leaving the shimadas
wait
A bunch of heroes could also just be upstanding citizens and not heroes
No he’s Hashimoto
oh i keep mixing it up
genji shimada finds out he's adopted
if junker genji isn't the one who dies then who does he kill
maybe some fourth unspecified shimada
no one i suppose
Kiriko
I like to think mei died in the frozen base 🥰
kiriko is also a hashimoto
Why are you like this
ok how about this
you are SO EAGER to kill a bitch... /j
does that mean that mirrorwatch kiriko and hanzo are relatives?
kiriko's mom is killed by junker genji and is resurrected by mirrorwatch moira
Kill the demon
not necessarily? i imagine there's more people than Just the family in the clan
idk how japanese gangs work though
and kiriko's mom is the overwatch cybernetic ninja
genji becomes a junker to get away from the hashimoto clan since he's all aww man why did i kill kiriko's mom
"Aww man I'm such a bad person"
"Time to consume radiated dirt on a daily basis"
just a more twisted version of wielding a bow and becoming a loner
do you think mirrorwatch roadhog still wears a mask
if he isnt in australia, prob not
well im assuming he's a vishkar employee alongside mirrowatch junkrat and mirrorwatch junker queen
I want to know what mirror kirikos kitsune looks like
I just realized, would junker sym be queen of junker town?
no
I mean someone has to rule junkertown
there's nothing indicating she would be the Queen of Junkertown
doesnt necessarily have to be a member of the csst though
she's just a junker
the ruler of junkertown might just be some Guy
could still be Howl
Maybe junker genji? It would be crazy if junker Winston would be the junker king
genji is just a ninja who is there for. some reaskn
junker winston would probably be one of the fighters
How about junker dva?
she would definitely also be one of the fighters
she literally has a mech
gerard's alive
get owned LMFAO
yes
His name is English 😭
Sam English, a First Nations diplomat from the Pacific coast of Canada
It’s sad to think this version of widow maker isn’t a lesbian
why would she be
Widowmaker was always in love with Gerard
if anything she's bisexual if blizzard had the balls to develop her and tracer's relationship
Sorry I hate straight ppl I want widowmaker lesbian
Anyway
This season is sooo good
I wish we gets. Short stories about it
swap straight and lesbian and you'd get punished, society and shit

Society is good then
@umbral prawn
i am not a personal fan of widowtracer, mostly bc i dont much like enemies to lovers
gotta be one of the worst ships of all time fr
^
theres nothing Wrong with pharmercy i just dont like pharah and dont give a shit abt mercy 😭
what relationship? they hate each other
that's the point, they learn to not do that anymore
that doesn't happen
whats there to learn 😭
idk how tracer would Learn to get over the fact widow tried to kill her and Succeeded in killing an idol shd had met and admired
Idk Widowmaker finds out that murder is bad and that she can have emotions and shit and then reinhardt dies of old age
and overwatch 3 is announced
murder is bad
and then anything interesting happens with the heroes because as long as the game is around they won't ever do anything major like killing them off or making them grow
i would like a widow redemption arc in theory but 1) idk if thats Possible and 2) even if she did idk if tracer would forgive her enough to. date her
several heroes have already had character growth
especially since she already has a gf
most notably, Zarya and Torbjorn
idt widow gets forgiven by tracer theres certain stuff u cant rly come back from
sleeper agent shenanigans aside
I mean that doesn't have to mean anything seeing as a polycule could be possible
Though tbh widowtracer is to me nothing more than "wot that would be very silly"
true although that one specifically i dont think would ever be canon
in fanart sure go nuts but canonically? ehh....
ppl saying because him and jack didnt get skins this is the only time theyre acc happy 😭
big kick in the teeth but lowkey it makes sense
normal guy jack and gabriel would be awesome skins
more casual skins ‼️
i need them
let me see what the lads look like on the average Saturday
what we need is more omnic skins 🥰
tbh a streetwear theme wouldnt be too bad
they kinda already leaned into it abit w kiriko and genji
i could see them doing some more
tracers graffiti skin is pretty close to one yh
To anyone who bought it, does the new hanzo skin have any voice ones?
Prob no cuz it’s an epic
No I checked, it’s some how a legendary
How does genji keep himself clean? I doubt he can hop in a shower
Ohhh right I forgot
Well, might have some then but I wouldn’t count on it
Why does roadhog wear a mask? Is he extremely insecure?
i dont think its ever been confirmed but i have a few guesses
in like sandy areas like what a lot of australia seems to be in ow universe a mask would be helpful to like not get sand in your eyes
his hogdrogen could like slot into his mask somehow
why not?
Not to get into this conversation, but in retrospect, it’s not like Genji has a lot to clean
Wasn’t like 80% or so of his body replaced with tech?
he'd still have to clean the metal parts
So by that he only really has to clean like 20% of himself at most
True. Although, I can’t help seeing him having to clean his tech as either cleaning a car or something
like a car, or a computer, or most other machines
they still need to be cleaned and maintained
you're mostly right
but it wasn't his gang, it was the Australian Liberation Front
a group of farmers who waged guerilla warfare against the omnics and sabotaged the omnium to make the core detonate
I wish they would show us roadhog without his mask, it's been years since he got put in the game and we still don't know what he looks like
yeah
polycule as a relationship option just when a character already has a partner feels kinda insensitive to me/nm
same
they should execute kiriko and make it cannon
!!shitposting
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
I guess.... I personally don't see it that way, especially since it's about fictional characters rather than real life people, but I respect your opinion nonetheless.
all of the character ages are fine, its Just Kiriko
i think max was supposed to appear in a cutscene in the next set of missions
what do you mean?
whats wrong with her age
i think the entire point is that she was a child prodigy
i mean in her origin story we see her training As A Child
with other children
a lot of sports have kids start training at a young age, it probably isn't any more taxing than that
in gymnastics children even compete at the highest level
Olympic gymnasts are often 14-16
thats not adult mercy
theyre like 12 and 17 there
it just Looks like that
i agree but we ball
Reinhardt is also huge in that art
its an old ass piece of art anyway
not yet anyway
he's mentioned in declassified so there is hope
thank you for respecting it !!
gabriel reyes you would have loved mean girls
im so intruiged w/mythic mercy cuz it makes me wonder how she controls talon as its leader and how she moves forward with things like infiltration, raiding, etc
he was recruited at 17
he started the Deadlock Gang with Ashe when he was 15
which isn't that unusual - many high profile real-world gangs were started by teenagers
Ashe was a few months short of her 18th birthday
Yeah I also don’t know why is she the leader
And where’s Jack
I wonder if maybe instead of being overwatch’s strike commander he’s something else for talon thats either similar in position and just not done by blizzard or elsewhat
WHERES GABRIEL 💔💔
I wonder if the new abilities we got in the event were those scrapped pve talents
probably
did widow and gerard ever have a kid in the original timeline?
because if they don't then that means mirrorwatch pharah is straight up not even born and is replaced by someone completely different who's the child of mirrorwatch widow and gerard
There’s a voice line when rein kills Ana, saying he broke from her leash which left me shook tbh
i dont think its that literal of a swap
presumably pharah is still ana's daughter
and then ana killed sam later or something
i'm going with my headcanon that pharah doesn't even exist in the mirrorverse
if she's somewhat swapped with widow i imagine he's dead as hell
shouldnt like emily be dead?
tracer seems to take moreso the role of reaper
Tracer probably didn't meet Emily in this universe
since in the canon universe, she only met Emily after her accident
who would be in the mirrorwatch blackwatch
all i know is that ashe and maybe tracer would be there
well i’m delving deep enough to consider mirrorwatch tracer the reaper swap
hmm i didnt know that
now i don’t know where mirrorwatch echo sides with
or who she swaps with
am i looking into mirrorwatch too deep
because this makes me think i’m looking too deep
yes
but then again there’s the zenyatta-mondatta-ramattra triangle swaps and the widow-ana swaps so idk
alongside gerard being alive and sam being ambiguously betrayed by ana
its less literal swaps for some characters
like tracer is "swapped" with reaper but she's not all ghosty
ana isnt blue
mmph still fun to look into this unnecessarily deep
It's less of a 1:1 swap or true mirror and more like a "what if?"
Anyone got any useful info on venture's background?
The wiki doesn't say much.
there isn't much
they apprenticed to the Wayfinder Society at 16
they've always liked exploring
they moved around a lot as a kid
Theres some subtle things we can infer tho abt potential future character happenings
I like the line where they say I'm sorry mr lindholm because i think theyd be a dope character combination
Whether that acc means torb knows who sloane is hard to say tho
Im surprised they dont have any interactions w junkrat yet tbh you would've thought considering he's someone who probably also has interest in artefacts (maybe for the wrong reasons but i like to think he could be knowledgeable)
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew about Torb bc of some Torb-tech utilized in the design of the drill
Torb worked and engineered w AI and the smart drill undoubtedly uses some kind of AI to determine what's just plain useless dirt and what has archeological value
Same thats what i was thinking
Plus ironclads had their fingers in all sorts of work so it's not crazy to think he helped the wayfinders w some projects at some point
Absolutely
isnt symmetra evil in the lore
No
She's kind and wants to make the world a better place, which on paper is what Vishkar wants but we know and Sym has evidence that Vishkar is willing to hurt people to make the world a better place and for profit
i think syms worst quality is that she at least at some points has been complicit in vishkars corporate exploitation
we know at least in the past she mightve been a bit rigid abt how she was thinking abt things but now esp w lifeweaver back in the picture she's one of the most redeemable characters imo
I’ll be honest, I thought theirs be some mirrorwatch interaction. But I guess not
ye im surprised there isnt more lore
These are all of the hero interaction voice lines in Season 10 of Overwatch 2. The heroes with new OW2 voice lines for Season 10 are Ana, Doomfist, Lucio, Echo, Venture, Mauga, Symmetra, Mercy, Moira, Widowmaker, Reinhardt, Sigma, Sombra, Tracer, Zenyatta, Ramattra, Illari, and Winston. I'll update this description if there are any new additiona...
catgrease coming in clutch once again
i like how it's a bit of a running gag that venture's fav specialty is ... ALL OF THEM
it's like w zen theres a different answer every time
also speaking of zen his new interaction w illari makes me want her to meet doomfist even more now
I asked in general before if anyone thought the blackwatch Genji skin was a nod to Jetstream sam, all i got was one “‘no” so i came here.
it sure looks like it
I guess thats all it is ye i was just wondering wether or not i was crazy 😭
I didn't feel like searching it but does Venture eat rocks because I've seem memes of it and it made me think
did soilder 76 have a bf???
He got married to someone else
dam
Since jack was too focused on other things so it severed the connection greatly
"Tastes like ... dirt" (the answer is yes 🫡)
Is this a place we can discuss the mirrorverse or nah since its all sort of fanfic
people have been discussing it
I'm curious what gerard was in this mirroverse- he's part of overwatch in original lore so would he be a talon agent now in the mirror?
really wish we got skin descriptions of other skins than the mercy
ig it depends if widow is more like tracer or more like ana
Gerard is mentioned in voice lines, so he's probably on the same side as Widow
oh does the widow skin have specific voicelines about gerard?
one of her elim lines is "wait until Gerard hears about this"
Ahh
that's a knock off one of tracer's lines about emily
wonder if emily is dead here
she probably never met Emily
since in canon they met after Tracer's accident
Hey everyone, here's a handful of Mirrorwatch voice lines that I found. Some of them are skin-specific! If you enjoyed this video, make sure to like and subscribe for more, thanks! :)
0:00 Widowmaker | Captain LaCroix
0:55 Echo | Stealth
1:29 Ana | Arch-Commandant Amari
2:26 Doomfist | Strike Commander
3:08 Mercy | Vengeance
3:55 Reinhardt | Fa...
ty
Kinda random q but does anyone have any idea why they used white hair/highlights on so many of their mirror looks?
Like i think they look good on some of them but it's almost everyone 😭
probably just an easy shorthand for making them different
Yh ig
Still i think for sombra in particular a bit more of a clean monochrome kinda look mightve been interesting
Like i think main universe sombra would 100% rock mirror sombras hair
Widow gets to live a (somewhat) happy life with her husband 
Ana killed Sam? Omg
she betrayed him
Dang, wonder how pharah feels about that
pharah isn't technically overwatch, she's helix, maybe she's a meka in this universe or something
Someone give me a cursed summary of the Overwatch lore
Since Athena is in talon and she was created by Mina Liao, that means Mina is still alive (probably) since she was killed by talon in our world
Maybe black watch killed her and she was the Antonio of this world
Hmm
hes had ENOUGH 😭
Does blackwatch even exist in that world
Echo's Stealth skin is considered Blackwatch in Mirrorverse
Where does it say that
That’s weird
Maybe blackwatch confiscated her from talon and did a factory reset or something
I guess it works? But I really don't know why mirrored Overwatch needs a Blackwatch division
Yeah it’s a weird choice
It doesn’t really make sense for Mina being in talon tho because Aurora freed omnics from Anubis to stop the crisis (with Liao’s help) why would Liao be interested in ending that conflict if that’s what they want
Unless she rebelled, but like, why
maybe she joined After for. some reason
or maybe liao was blackwatch and built echo specifically for them
realistically speaking, what would hurt more: an energy javelin or a rocket punch
well would you rather get impaled or your face caved in
i feel like orisa would make an effort to not like kill you
true, but alas you are still Impaled
I'd say the javelin hurts more as it impales you
the fist
is a blunt object
mostly
its like comparing the heel of a high heel shoe vs a elephant foot,
I think the one with little surface area will hurt more
okay but like the elephant foot has the force of an elephant behind it
and the elephant is like evil
Does anybody wanna tell me why Lucio just doesn’t like Symmetra??
shes kinda trying to like gentrify places iirc
because she works for Vishkar, and Vishkar tried to gentrify his hometown and exploited his father
and the javelin probably has too
Atleast afaik Orisa is meant to be Doomfist's equal/similiar in strength
orisa probably isnt going to like try to kill you w/the javelin so she would probably be pulling her punches
and orisa mainly beat doom because of her durability iirc
Would you say that the reverse talon skins are more popular then the reverse owl skins (widow skin excluded since that skin got a lot of love)
This is kind of unfair to say because there's more Talon skins (6) than Overwatch skins (3)
I mean that’s exactly my point, I mean 8 villains and gave 3 of them overwatch skins. And put all 3 of those skins in the battle pass and made most of the talon skins including zen’s null sector skin part of the shop


