Vishkar
#lore-discussion
merry token
Like 13 of them are currently members of ow (?) might be 12
rare trail
Like 13 of them are currently members of ow (?) might be 12
16 by my count but i might have some stuff wrong
pure burrow
Yet
rare trail
cassidy bastion rein dva genji lucio mei mercy pharah tracer winston zarya brig baptiste echo
15 actually
soj isnt right?
pure burrow
Sojourn too right
rare trail
why wouldnt you say cassidy?
merry token
Dva
Reinhardt
Brigitte
Baptiste
Lucio
Mercy
Tracer
Mei
Pharah
Sojourn
Zarya
Genji
Cassidy
Echo
copper gate
He came back
pure burrow
How do you forget lucio
worn latch
Too short
rare trail
ty :3
worn latch
Overlooked him
pure burrow
Isn’t junkrat supposedly a part
worn latch
Heheeh
merry token
Still a criminal
merry token
Third Canadian dps
Characters interacting with eachother who haven’t met in the canon…
pure burrow
I wish pve had a free play mode
But then again that would make the que times even worse
rare trail
do any orisa abilities get canonized in heroes ascendant?
granite python
scirm ?
wild rampart
So like, is Reapers thing where he eats souls to heal canon or was that just scrubbed out?
worn latch
Not canon
sullen loom
peak escarp
So like, is Reapers thing where he eats souls to heal canon or was that just scr...
Reaper does not eat souls
rare trail
does orisa get any new confirmed abilities in her story?
it looks like from the cover art she uses her spear so i assume she would get something like javelin spin
peak escarp
I don't remember her using any, but it is mentioned that she has new abilities
rare trail
ok i think i have a mostly complete ability list then? I dont think i missed anything but its way too long for me to post without getting muted
viral tendon
make a google doc
Quick question is there a way to get the regular role on ur profile without talking in the normal chat or do you have to talk in the normal chat? /gen
peak escarp
just be active and helpful
I think I got regular (before I was a mod) and I only talk here
rare trail
make a google doc
wouldnt that like show my email?
peak escarp
no idea
viral tendon
just be active and helpful
Ohhh Ty :3
viral tendon
wouldnt that like show my email?
No it wouldn’t usually, I think u can press hide email too im not sure
Cuz like people share gd all over the internet without their email being shown
merry mason
Interesting
viral tendon
My golly, one your good your email wasn’t shown and two zen has nothing there and idk if that’s on purpose
viral tendon
Ahhh had to make sure
rare trail
if im counting zens i should probably count sigmas
worn latch
uhh okay https://docs.google.com/document/d/144FXvLRxw2F_H_qyKjHa2adUoKIm0QuUFA0...
No lifeweaver 😞
spare fox
I lost my role not sure why unless it decays or something ☹️
ruby ridge
Didn’t Orisa and Eli join ow at the end of her comic?
worn latch
All of LW abilities are canon
Yes I've been saying that 😞😞but he wasn't in the doc
worn latch
Didn’t Orisa and Eli join ow at the end of her comic?
Yes actually I do remember that, the entire story was about orisa getting upset cuz she didn't wanna leave
spare fox
Didn’t Orisa and Eli join ow at the end of her comic?
I think they were going for that at the end of HoN novel but it turned out Sojourn just wanted to meet them. They're going to join OW after their recent story though
worn latch
That's mb
rare trail
No lifeweaver 😞
sorry :3 i had to like manually add the newer heroes and i forgot him :(((
worn latch
sorry :3 i had to like manually add the newer heroes and i forgot him :(((
don't let it happen again pal....
rare trail
its fixed now :3
viral tendon
<:DONOT:1153351292006183083> don't let it happen again pal....
You gonna give her a knuckle sandwich or something 😭😭 /j
worn latch
Yes
flint sage
my first day in this server and im already experiencing live violence damn /j
fair estuary
my first day in this server and im already experiencing live violence damn /j
What does /j mean
flint sage
What does /j mean
/joke
flint sage
whats with the backslash
just to show a tone indicator (aka a way to make sure your written tone comes across and for others as well)
harsh plume
FlammeK , you're still awake?
sleek jetty
Is Lúcio's feet are actually cybernetic or does he actually wear them?
rare trail
its just something he wears
flint sage
i know what u meant, but i misread the phrase as "does he actually wear his own feet?" 
viral tendon
whats with the backslash
People who have autism or just don’t understand social cues use them (like I’m autistic so I use them so I don’t sound mean)
fair estuary
People who have autism or just don’t understand social cues use them (like I’m a...
Ok
sleek dirge
who's down to give me a quick lore of Pharah
peak escarp
who's down to give me a quick lore of Pharah
lament salmon
@peak escarp sorry for ping has anyone been in talon and blackwatch?
hushed jetty
moira, reaper
undone wraith
peak escarp
Baptiste was never in Blackwatch though
heavy mirage
who's down to give me a quick lore of Pharah
Ana's daughter. Used to be Genji's romantic interest (I MEANT MERCY WAS GENJI'S INTEREST) Suntil the new OW2 writer wanted to retcon her to be interested in Mercy to satisfy a part of the fanbase that ships them
viral tendon
Ana's daughter. Used to be Genji's romantic interest (I MEANT MERCY WAS GENJI'S ...
Oh my god do not remind me of pharji
worthy rose
Ana's daughter. Used to be Genji's romantic interest (I MEANT MERCY WAS GENJI'S ...
WAIT WHAT
No way pharji existed canonically
peak escarp
Ana's daughter. Used to be Genji's romantic interest (I MEANT MERCY WAS GENJI'S ...
Pharah was not Genji's romantic interest
Mercy was
also there's no canon indication that Pharah is interested in Mercy
heavy mirage
Pharah was not Genji's romantic interest
Sorry I meant Mercy Genji
heavy mirage
also there's no canon indication that Pharah is interested in Mercy
They already retconned Genji+Mercy and removed every romantic interaction between them, retconned Mercy to an age that is significantly lower in order to be closer in age to Pharah to be less of a creepy groomer, had Pharah be listed as having some sort of strong fondness for Mercy, and the writing team leaks information to the Pharmercy community specifically
The writing is on the wall
peak escarp
Mercy's age wasn't changed
she has always been 5 years older than Pharah
the rest of that is just speculation
heavy mirage
she has always been 5 years older than Pharah
After retcon, yes
peak escarp
there is no confirmation of any romantic relationship between them
no
it was never retconed
heavy mirage
Pharah was a child when Overwatch was around and Mercy was an established head surgeon
flint sage
quiet skiff
pharah mercy is canon?
heavy mirage
Mercy was a student then
You don't know her original bio it sounds like
flint sage
there is no confirmation of any romantic relationship between them
The only thing close to it is her talking fondly of Mercy in the short story where she comes out as a lesbian iirc
heavy mirage
They changed her biography to make Mercy as a student
peak escarp
incorrect
flint sage
The only thing close to it is her talking fondly of Mercy in the short story whe...
Wrong reply sorry xD
peak escarp
I assume you're referring to this image
Pharah is 12
Mercy is 17, visiting from university
source: Michael Chu's panel during GDC 2017
there is no retcon involving Mercy
heavy mirage
No, I am referring to the original writing.
After obtaining her MD and PHD in Switzerland, Ziegler rose to become the head of surgery at a prominent Swiss hospital before pioneering a breakthrough in the field of applied nanobiology that radically improved the treatment of life-threatening illnesses and injuries. It was this expertise that attracted the attention of Overwatch.
Because her parents had been taken by war, Ziegler was opposed to the organization's militaristic approach to keeping global peace. Ultimately, she recognized that Overwatch offered her the opportunity to save lives on a much larger scale. As Overwatch's head of medical research, Angela sought to leverage her work for healing in frontline crises. The result was the Valkyrie swift-response suit, which Ziegler herself piloted on many Overwatch missions.
Originally she was a prominent surgeon who worked her way up and was asked to be in Overwatch
peak escarp
that hasn't changed
heavy mirage
Yes it was, now they have her bio as that she was a medical student
peak escarp
you have to be a medical student before you're a surgeon
flint sage
okay that made me laugh
heavy mirage
She was an accomplished surgeon when joining Overwatch originally, now they have that she was a medical student when getting involved in Overwatch
flint sage
I assume you're referring to this image
peak escarp
nowhere does it say she was a student when Overwatch recruited her
flint sage
Discord mean >:((
peak escarp
we see her being recruited in a flashback in Valkyrie, where she is 22 and an established surgeon
peak escarp
nowhere in the text I quoted does it say that she was a student when Overwatch recruited her
it's just rephrased
flint sage
you two: so, age, mercy and surgeons
me, bursting in the convo for no reason: cole cassidy lol
peak escarp
from Valkyrie:
she was already the head of surgery at Zurich University Hospital before Overwatch recruited her
her bio description doesn't contradict that
heavy mirage
she was already the head of surgery at Zurich University Hospital before Overwat...
Yes I know that is what I am saying. She would have been older to go through her education and become head surgeon
When she joined Overwatch
peak escarp
she was a child prodigy
she started university before she was 17, and was head of surgery by 22
heavy mirage
The age retcon says she was 14 in Overwatch
peak escarp
source?
heavy mirage
And yes in a short story all about Pharah being a lesbian, name dropping Mercy and leaking the info about Pharah to specifically a Pharmercy community has STRONG implications
peak escarp
she joined Overwatch 15 years ago, her current age is 39
meaning she was 24 when she was recruited
peak escarp
And yes in a short story all about Pharah being a lesbian, name dropping Mercy a...
strong implications is not canon confirmation
heavy mirage
she joined Overwatch 15 years ago, her current age is 39
The picture of Pharah she is absolutely around the age of 9, and Mercy is only 5 years older
peak escarp
Pharah is 12 in that photo
Mercy isn't a member of Overwatch yet
she's visiting from university
heavy mirage
Do you quote anything other than retcon
peak escarp
nothing has been retconned
heavy mirage
Quoting retcon when talking about original bio being retconned is hilarious
peak escarp
what source do you have that it was retconned?
the bio having different phrasing is not a retcon
heavy mirage
The source is that the current writing team changed all the ages, removed previous writing team's bios and character interactions, and revealed information over the life of OW2 that is incredibly inconsistent
"Different phrasing"
peak escarp
the only change to the ages was adding 2 years (and fixing Zenyatta's age) to account for the 2 year time jump from Recall to Invasion
heavy mirage
"Angela earned an MD and PHD, became a head surgeon, was involved in tissue research and was asked to join Overwatch due to prominence" is somehow just a phrasing change from "Mercy was friends with Torb her whole life and got to hang around Overwatch all the time and was a child prodigy who became a prominent head surgeon at the age of 17"
peak escarp
she was not the head surgeon at 17
I don't know where you're getting that
the age she became a head surgeon at is not listed anywhere
she was still a student at 17
and we've known about her relationship with Torbjorn for years - since Brigitte's introduction back in 2018
so that's not something made up by the new writing team
heavy mirage
Overwatch formed around 30 years prior to the events in Overwatch 1. The Omnic Crisis ended 4 years later. Torbjorn mentions Angela fixing him 23 years prior to Overwatch 1 (she would be 14)
peak escarp
Overwatch formed around 30 years prior to the events in Overwatch 1. The Omnic C...
incorrect
bleak shell
seriously where do you get these sources
flint sage
seriously where do you get these sources
(Trust them bro) - Source
heavy mirage
flint sage
Thats what i got from this convo so far
peak escarp
If only Angela's dreams of tissue regeneration were a reality! I told her she should be working harder!
which means she isn't a doctor yet
heavy mirage
```If only Angela's dreams of tissue regeneration were a reality! I told her she...
Angela was already a part of the crew
peak escarp
she only dreams of bio regeneration
heavy mirage
Tissue regeneration research came after already being a head surgeon
peak escarp
she's just a child
peak escarp
flint sage
ask mercy yourself ig
heavy mirage
When do you think the events of Overwatch happened
peak escarp
Overwatch started during the omnic crisis, which began 28 years ago, and ended 7 years ago when it was forced to disband
flint sage
Fellas of lore
What you think happened for Cass to get cactus spines up his ass
flint sage
Did he just sit on it for the fun of it or- /silly
peak escarp
we don't have confirmed years for anything
Mercy was recruited 10 years after the omnic crisis ended
heavy mirage
Pharah isn't 12 years old in the photo, Mercy being 17 in the same photo doesn't work. And yes they hinted at them being a thing (or at least Pharah). The end 🙂
peak escarp
Pharah isn't 12 years old in the photo, Mercy being 17 in the same photo doesn't...
incorrect
heavy mirage
Source: 12 year old girls do not look like that, and especially not in relation to a 17 year old who also does not look like that lol
peak escarp
art is subjective
heavy mirage
They just want it to be less creepy when they make them a thing
peak escarp
that artist just isn't good at depicting ages
heavy mirage
Because it had groomer accusations of the ship for years
peak escarp
their age gap has not changed
heavy mirage
And mercy was originally hinted with Genji but they are catering the pharmercy ship community (LITERALLY LEAKING LORE TO THEM) so they had to retcon
peak escarp
in OW1 they were 32 and 37
native gulch
Butters you are neither making sense nor are you remotely correct as far as facts go
peak escarp
nothing was retconned
heavy mirage
It's already been well documented the changes they have made
A lead writer has already admitted they try to please the ship community
bleak shell
Reddit is not the best source on lore
heavy mirage
Read the actual comment lordy
peak escarp
there were far fewer people complaining that Pharmercy was a "groomer" relationship than there were people complaining that Gency was a doctor taking advantage of her patient
native gulch
Specifically Overwatch memes
🤨
flint sage
Source: 12 year old girls do not look like that, and especially not in relation ...
Source: Ive met women before. They can absolutely look like both at those ages (not always, but they absolutely can)
- ye the artist prolly wasn’t perfect at drawing the “common-est” looks for those two
peak escarp
Read the actual comment lordy
speculation about catering to a ship community doesn't mean anything has been retconned
also, Gavin was fired recently
heavy mirage
Source: Ive met women before. They can absolutely look like both at those ages (...
Or it was changed after the fact from Pharah being a child and Mercy in her 20s to Pharah being older and Mercy being a little younger to be less weird.
peak escarp
so who knows what that will mean for the ship
heavy mirage
No idea why we are pretending like the lore team cares about consistency
native gulch
Given how most games treat their stories you’d expect more retcons but Overwatch retcons are surprisingly rare afaik
peak escarp
Or it was changed after the fact from Pharah being a child and Mercy in her 20s ...
their ages were not changed
I keep telling you
heavy mirage
Given how most games treat their stories you’d expect more retcons but Overwatch...
Did they not just go back and readjust the ages of like everyone which causes lore issues such as Kiriko's?
heavy mirage
their ages were not changed
Link to where Pharah is stated to be 12 in the photo?
peak escarp
the only ages that were changed when they updated the bios for OW2 are Zenyatta and Sojourn
native gulch
Did they not just go back and readjust the ages of like everyone which causes lo...
Kiriko is less retconny and more “introduces story aspect that makes no sense”. “Rare” also doesn’t mean “never”
flint sage
No idea why we are pretending like the lore team cares about consistency
I dont think anybody is, i think they are just telling ya what has been said abt it various times
but im just an observer so what do i know /light sarcasm
heavy mirage
I dont think anybody is, i think they are just telling ya what has been said abt...
It's trying to beat around the bush that the writing team adjusts the lore or reinterprets former lore/illustrations
Pharah absolutely is interested in Mercy and the writers have active involvement with the Pharmercy community.
And it is a fact they removed all Genji-Mercy hints from everything
peak escarp
Link to where Pharah is stated to be 12 in the photo?
51:24
"you have 11 to 12 year old Pharah [...] you have university student Mercy who is visiting the Overwatch base"
Pharah's supposed interest in Mercy is not as blatant as a lot of people think
and there doesn't seem to be much reciprocity from Mercy
without more overt confirmation, it could be passed off as a close friendship
I do dislike the way the writers were pandering to their twitter audience
heavy mirage
"you have 11 to 12 year old Pharah [...] you have university student Mercy who i...
That fits the original assumption that she was in her younger 20's (university age)
peak escarp
but the math doesn't
Pharah's age in OW1 was 32, Mercy's age in OW1 was 37
so when she was 12, Mercy was 17
being 17 and in university isn't that unlikely - I was in university when I was 17 (because of my late birthday)
heavy mirage
I think you might be right that the illustration specifically is misleading
That picture is just so prominently used and referenced, it stands out most which causes confusion
flint sage
being 17 and in university isn't that unlikely - I was in university when I was ...
Same
peak escarp
one has Torb without his cybernetic arm
which is incorrect
since he lost it 23/25 years ago
and this photo is 20/22 years ago
heavy mirage
being 17 and in university isn't that unlikely - I was in university when I was ...
No you just were able to get in at a young age with a major in History focused in Overwatch
rare trail
also mercy is like supposed to be a child prodigy so its possible she skipped a grade
peak escarp
No you just were able to get in at a young age with a major in History focused i...
if that was a real subject I'd have a PhD
worn latch
being 17 and in university isn't that unlikely - I was in university when I was ...
Mercy is also extremely intelligent and her graduating high school early isn't that weird
azure bluff
Mercy is just a wrong'n if they go with either ship
worthy rose
Mercy is just a wrong'n if they go with either ship
How so?
azure bluff
How so?
Half joking. The age gap between her and Pharah isn't bad if they started seeing eachother now, though it's still a bit strange given that Mercy knew her as she (Pharah) was growing up.
With Genji, she was the doctor who saved his life. She has a lot of power in that dynamic
Ultimately "it's just a game" is a valid response to any of these statements.
rare trail
idk its not like genji is still her patient
its still a little weird given she did save his life but i dont think theres a power dynamic there rn because genji isnt her patient anymore
rare trail
21
flint sage
Thanks
rare trail
its on the official bios now
flint sage
Couldnt rememver if 20 or 21
robust pumice
oh lordy lord who here knows sombra lore or wants to know (i love sombra lore)
Shes so interesting istg
LMFAO
lavish vessel
oh lordy lord who here knows sombra lore or wants to know (i love sombra lore)
I know a little, from what I do know she’s a really cool character. I really like her friendship with sigma too in game
Also love ur pfp btw 
flint sage
her friendship w sigma is just chefs kiss
she is literally the "sure grandma lets get you to bed" meme
azure bluff
She knows who's been naughty
peak escarp
worn latch
Half joking. The age gap between her and Pharah isn't bad if they started seeing...
Doesn't matter cuz overwatch will never make either canon 😭
azure bluff
Doesn't matter cuz overwatch will never make either canon 😭
That would honestly be wise
worn latch
Pharamercy and gency fans r equally crazy, also they get more money off of making both have content
azure bluff
First OW Polygroup. Now everyone's happy
spare fox
in my experience, it's the pharmercy fans who are more crazy however the gency fans can at times make arguments against pharmercy that can be considered at best homophobic
but pharmercy fans are more crazy and aggressive hands down
azure bluff
I don't get the logic behind shipping in general
spare fox
imo roadrat fans come in second for crazy and aggressive, bizarrely
azure bluff
Like, as far as it goes for me is "oh, they have some interesting traits that could work well together" and that's it
Maybe it's different for me because I'm indifferent to attraction
spare fox
same here - I do like some ships but I'm not crazy about it and I highly doubt any will be canon, even gency
flint sage
as someone who gets very invested in ships, i can say its a matter of "those two together bring me joy/confort" but when people want to fight over it im like
"where is the confort, bro? u like simply fighting??"
"bro u fighting me where the confort at"
spare fox
my pet ship I really want to become canon is pharah-brigitte because awwww
flint sage
never heard of that one before xD
azure bluff
Sombra-Cassidy is the one I think would be most interesting to me
flint sage
i will admit the reason i care for overwatch is bc of ships, they drew me in and then i thought the lore was very cool
spare fox
yeah the discourse can get so off-putting from it all
flint sage
im not a fan of sombra n cassidy but im like, very biased XD /lh
flint sage
yeah the discourse can get so off-putting from it all
any type of fandom discourse is always 80% chance of disaster
spare fox
to me it seems like Sombra is one of the ones who, in Chu's words, "is married to her work" lol
flint sage
ye lol thats how i see her too
azure bluff
Oh yeah, lore wise it wouldn't work because Sombra is too much of a bigger picture thinker and they're essentially on opposite sides
flint sage
she doing her own thing she dont got time for a relationship
also imagine dating a woman that knows all ur browsing history, terrifying /j
azure bluff
Also because Cassidy's grenade is one of the most annoying abilities when I'm playing Sombra
merry token
Oh my god, the people calling venture’s VA a bad person because they enjoyed dvattra
flint sage
😭
spare fox
see, no that is out of line
I hate when stans and antis alike harass the creators: at best it gives all fans a bad name and at worse it makes them clam up and stop interracting
flint sage
every other day i think abt that voiceline of dva calling BOB "a cute guy"
bc she right, there aint no cuter guy
flint sage
I hate when stans and antis alike harass the creators: at best it gives all fans...
legit
flint sage
them/they
spare fox
yes because they are not their gender assigned at birth, that's my understanding
flint sage
they nonbinary
flint sage
yes because they are not their gender assigned at birth, that's my understanding
ye, non binary is under the trans umbrella 
flint sage
lost helm
spare fox
I hope they make Pride Month a thing in game again
lost helm
id like the archives or anniversary ( i forgor which ) story missions to come back
spare fox
same same
worn latch
imo roadrat fans come in second for crazy and aggressive, bizarrely
All roadrat fans I've seen r so silly whaaat
spare fox
it's probably not that simple, I could see them not wanting to just put it back in game without some serious polishing due to reworks
lost helm
it's probably not that simple, I could see them not wanting to just put it back ...
yeah also bc of the pve too right
smh i loved those missions
spare fox
yeah they were fun, I remember playing them over and over during the events
worn latch
All roadrat fans I've seen r so silly whaaat
The chillest shippers I've seen are probably bapcass
Dude bapweaver fans are so toxic istg
I say I dislike the ship and suddenly I'm literally banned from the group 💀
flint sage
me, shipping bapweaver on my corner: 
spare fox
All roadrat fans I've seen r so silly whaaat
yeah but there's a sect of them that are convinced that roadrat is canon and saying or suggesting anything otherwise can get you targetted for some toxic shite directed at you
flint sage
shipper gangs are scary
worn latch
me, shipping bapweaver on my corner: <:onefear:1070671596710264912>
I mean it's not a bad ship but the people who ship it heavily are really fucking weird
flint sage
I mean it's not a bad ship but the people who ship it heavily are really fucking...
ye ye i know, its just me going "ohnoes the others may scare me" /lh
worn latch
yeah but there's a sect of them that are convinced that roadrat is canon and say...
WHAAT
flint sage
me, making my gays kiss be like: "its my own canon u cant take that away from me"
rare trail
idk if im a fan of like any ships
worn latch
It's just me having lw as an extreme special interest and bapweaver fans seem to mischaracterize him so heavily that it just made me hate the ship
rare trail
bapweaver seems like a pretty random pairing
worn latch
I do love symweaver tho that's my favorite<3
lost helm
do you think mercy in lore is as annoying as her mains irl
worn latch
bapweaver seems like a pretty random pairing
Both flirty queer men so it appeals to majority of the fandom
flint sage
bapweaver seems like a pretty random pairing
its mostly due some of their voicelines flirting with each other
worn latch
its mostly due some of their voicelines flirting with each other
One singular voice line but yeah
flint sage
and i use voicelines to make my own canon so I go "i like it"
flint sage
One singular voice line but yeah
i cant believe i just got 🤓 ☝️ -ed
spare fox
It's just me having lw as an extreme special interest and bapweaver fans seem to...
seeee it's those that consider certain characters/ship as their "special interests" that project themselves onto the character and if anyone dares interpret the character differently, they get toxic
lost helm
i hate asking for damage boost bc all i get is " dont tell me how to play the game "
spare fox
mercy the fandom bicycle
rare trail
mauga and mercy is crazy i think
lost helm
i ship genji x mercy let my man catch a break amen
flint sage
go off new crackship just dropped
worn latch
seeee it's those that consider certain characters/ship as their "special interes...
Real 😞😞 I got called abeliest for telling someone that lifeweaver was not a 5'7 man with no muscle mass because an autistic person was putting their own headcanons on him
Okay maybe I was a little mean about it
But like
rare trail
isnt lw like super tall
lost helm
is cass x ashe canon or do they just hate each other
flint sage
seeee it's those that consider certain characters/ship as their "special interes...
how dare someone not think like that one person does /sarcasm
flint sage
is cass x ashe canon or do they just hate each other
iirc it was not canon
worn latch
isnt lw like super tall
He's about 6'7
lost helm
dont tell me what to do omg im not gonna heal you loser
worn latch
Somewhere there
spare fox
is cass x ashe canon or do they just hate each other
Cass flirted a little in Deadlock Rebels but backed off when Ashe wasn't interested. It's a blink and you miss it thing
flint sage
Cass flirted a little in Deadlock Rebels but backed off when Ashe wasn't interes...
sounds abt right
lost helm
Cass flirted a little in Deadlock Rebels but backed off when Ashe wasn't interes...
oh so he got rejected kinda ?
worn latch
Before his hitbox was nerfed so now he's a little shorter
native gulch
yeah but there's a sect of them that are convinced that roadrat is canon and say...
“A couple of dashing rogues”
worn latch
Forreal
flint sage
cass: 
ashe: 
🔪
worn latch
That's why I get so upset whenever people draw Baptiste taller I always gotta call it out
lost helm
junkrat x ana mother / son rs when
rare trail
“A couple of dashing rogues”
thats like junkrat not understanding what lw meant though
native gulch
Real 😞😞 I got called abeliest for telling someone that lifeweaver was not a 5'...
No muscle mass
looks closer
muscle mass
rare trail
everyone is SO mean to junkrat in voice lines its insane
lost helm
everyone is SO mean to junkrat in voice lines its insane
play against a good junkrat and tell me you wouldnt be as mean
native gulch
thats like junkrat not understanding what lw meant though
I know but like
worn latch
“A couple of dashing rogues”
I just took it as them being close enough for the general public to think they're dating
native gulch
With Junkrat treating it like that I highly doubt they have any interest in each other
worn latch
> No muscle mass
> looks closer
> muscle mass
He has some pretty defined muscles but he's not broad he's really lean like a gymnastic so people just ignore ot
lost helm
doesnt s76 have a bounty too or am i tripping
worn latch
Lifeweaver has a bounty too heeheh I love my criminal wife
native gulch
He has some pretty defined muscles but he's not *broad* he's really lean like a ...
Kinda sorta femme but still pretty buff
worn latch
Kinda sorta femme but still pretty buff
He's feminine because his entire character is about being non conformist, so he doesn't fit gender norms
I think it's neat
Why are we talking about how much roadhog weighs
lost helm
genji is definitely 78.43 kg
worn latch
WHY
native gulch
He's feminine because his entire character is about being non conformist, so he ...
He’s pretty based for that
lost helm
mauga is 10000000 lbs which is the same weight of his mains irl ( avg discord mod )
worn latch
I agree
lost helm
sorry wangtang this wasnt pesonal
worn latch
It was for me
lost helm
worn latch
Idk how much lw would weigh
lost helm
rare trail
i wonder if mauga or roadhog is heavier
worn latch
Idk how much lw would weigh
Enough to crush me let's hope 🙏
worn latch
i wonder if mauga or roadhog is heavier
Mauga
lost helm
i wonder if mauga or roadhog is heavier
mauga bc hes so fat from all the cheeto dust and mountain dew
worn latch
Mauga is taller and a lot broader
spare fox
I don't think in-game models are 100% canon tbh like obv Roadhog and Mauga are huge but like
rare trail
doesnt muscle weigh more than fat
worn latch
I thought mauga was a lot taller?
spare fox
I don't think so many characters are ~7ft that's just unreasonable
lost helm
I thought mauga was a lot taller?
no its about same iirc
rare trail
oh wait its probably orisa lol
lost helm
i think rein is very very close in weight to both of them tho
rare trail
?
lost helm
not when i put his robotic ass 6 ft under he isnt
rare trail
if mauga can be counted w two hearts then rein can be counted w armor
thats like not the same i think
lost helm
thats like not the same i think
shh
rare trail
i wonder how much jq weighs
worn latch
He has some pretty defined muscles but he's not *broad* he's really lean like a ...
Like he's not as muscular as some other heroes but who are u comparing him too 😭😭? Rein??
lost helm
more buff than hanzo if you ask me
lost helm
His harbinger skin is the best bc it shows off his arms :3
yess i love it
it looks like genjis arms tho
in the blackwatch skin
worn latch
In his blackwatch skin?
lost helm
yess
rare trail
I need to BITE HIM
whar
worn latch
Yeah
rare trail
I'm going to SINK MY TEETH INTO HIS ARMS
um
slim garden
I'm going to SINK MY TEETH INTO HIS ARMS
Relatable
rare trail
good for you ig
slim garden
FUCK I GOT RATIOED/si
rare trail
ramattra nemesis probably weighs a bit right?
worn latch
Yeah bastion would be heavy as hell he's pure bulky metal compared to someone like ramattra who in general is just leaner
lost helm
i think zen would be surprisingly heavy
like not the heaviest but definitely more than you'd expect
worn latch
Bastion ability where if he drops onto his enemy in turret mode they immediately die
lost helm
yeah
worn latch
Zen is a cutie patootie
lost helm
do you count the bullet balls or nah
worn latch
do you count the bullet balls or nah
Those aren't canon so no
rare trail
whos the lightest
worn latch
whos the lightest
Tracer
lost helm
doomfist has to be at least 350 tho bc look at how massive that arm is
worn latch
No Hammond is fat as hell
slim garden
Erm ackshually, he’s clearly floating so he weighs nothing (he is full of helium)/j
flint sage
Erm ackshually, he’s clearly floating so he weighs nothing (he is full of helium...
mans a ballon
rare trail
No Hammond is fat as hell
fat as hell for a hamster is like 20 pounds though
worn latch
He's also way bigger than a normal hamster
rare trail
idk
slim garden
mans a ballon
worn latch
Id say dva kiri and tracer for humans
lost helm
id say more
slim garden
https://tenor.com/view/are-they-helium-balloons-gif-13392927672141408662
Embed fail :(
lost helm
maybe 50 more
rare trail
Id say dva kiri and tracer for humans
isnt tracer kinda tall shes just like not standing up straight
worn latch
isnt tracer kinda tall shes just like not standing up straight
She's like 5'4 I thought
Dva is taller than tracer
So is kiriko
Mei and Lucio are the shortest humans
Ana.
rare trail
lucio might be lightest then
lost helm
ana
worn latch
Lw in his shooting emote he's so goofy looking 😭😭 why's he bent over so much
lost helm
is probably pretty light
rare trail
illari?
spare fox
that's really really tall for a woman from south america
worn latch
She's not muscular and seems to be very thin
flint sage
i have a battery stuck on my mouse send help
spare fox
I wouldn't say she's thin, to me she seems athletic but not like a bodybuilder
flint sage
🐭
flint sage
got it out
spare fox
junkrat is weird because like his in game model is muscular but in everything else he's scrawny
flint sage
canon is just a suggestion
rare trail
isnt widow pretty tall
spare fox
yeah
again not sure how canon in-game models are
I think her model makes her over 6ft? which while possible it feels more reasonable to say in-game models aren't necessarily canon
then again in Heroes Ascendant it said that JQ was nearly 7 feet tall so who knows
OW universe is a race of giants ig
worn latch
isnt widow pretty tall
5'9
merry mason
I think it’s kinda like one piece (but not as extreme) where there are characters who are especially tall for specific reasons but some other guys are just built different
worn latch
OW universe is a race of giants ig
I mean it's very far in the future they probably have some genetic enhancements
That's why I think lifeweaver has white hair
All of the men in his family seem to
rare trail
you are so mean to hammond
spare fox
chonky hammy
rare trail
what did hammond ever do
worn latch
Evil
rare trail
hes just a silly little guy
spare fox
he's probably the heaviest hamster ever
worn latch
I mean in his short story they said he's bigger than the normal hamster
spare fox
yeah I meant it lol
worn latch
I'd say he weighs similar to an overweight cat
spare fox
he's a 25 pounder!
worn latch
i wonder how much orisa weighs
Imo she's the heaviest
I mean she's like 7ft and pure durable metal
spare fox
she's a horse waterbuffalo but also a tank
rare trail
i would say ram is up there but nemesis isnt canon so hes probably like half a ton at most
worn latch
Ramattra is probably one of the lighter omnics
Compared to orisa and bastion at least
Echo is the lightest
worn latch
Okay bro
rare trail
:3c
peak escarp
I imagine Orisa weighs the same as a car
peak escarp
a sedan
hollow hearth
@gray kayak an L
Bro bans ppl for no reason
L moderator
Like lil bro u aint allat
worthy rose
<@140566169487802369> an L
?
gray kayak
<@140566169487802369> an L
Not sure what your beef is but this isn't the channel for it.
worthy rose
<@140566169487802369> an L
Are you mad about moderation 😭😭😭
heavy abyss
I imagine Orisa weighs the same as a car
Ur kinda fat shaming her in a way 😅😅
stone canopy
lucio once fell asleep in a metronome factory and almost lost his rhythm but then a triangle-head shaped kid started singing with him in a library and he got his rhythm back
harsh plume
@stone canopy did he fart?
stone canopy
no
worn latch
Does nano boost have side effects
stone canopy
Does nano boost have side effects
depression
when you don’t get a 5k
how does ana’s anti nade taste?
ruby ridge
Does nano boost have side effects
Extreme withdrawal, if you don’t die 5 minutes after nano you enter into withdrawal which makes you lose control
Ur character walks to the closest death pit and attempts to jump
If the map Dosent have death pit then they just have a heart attack
harsh plume
Woah
rare trail
Does nano boost have side effects
nano isnt canon iirc
closest thing to nano in the real world would be like adrenaline ig
worn latch
WHAT THR FART DOES IIRC MEAN
past copper
WHAT THR FART DOES IIRC MEAN
If I remember correctly
worn latch
Also the closest thing would be steroids
worn latch
Adrenaline isn't something u take tho
rare trail
epi pen
worn latch
Isn't that for allergies?? Fym epi pen
rare trail
epi pen is just a lot of adrenaline
spare fox
Yeah if you take an epi pen without being in anaphylaxis you'll go into cardiac arrest so...
It's not like insta caffeine or anything lol
rare trail
Yeah if you take an epi pen without being in anaphylaxis you'll go into cardiac ...
not necessarily
hushed jetty
Yeah if you take an epi pen without being in anaphylaxis you'll go into cardiac ...
i dont think all that's true
rare trail
we've never seen nano in lore so we don't really know what it would do but based on game its a lot like an adrenaline rush
well yeah
its never used outside of the game
hushed jetty
ok but what does that Mean
rare trail
uh no
thats not what ana says
that interpretation is pretty wild
what she says is "unleash your inner strength" or whatever not giving you your full potential
ok????
ok
hushed jetty
ok but again what the hell does that mean
how does an Injection do that
hushed jetty
also i dont think going off the ult line is the best source
rare trail
one voice line, about a non canon ability, that youre interpreting in a weird way to unlock someones "potential"
uh
thats not what they asked
they asked if theres withdrawal symptoms from nano
or
actually nvm
they said "does nano have side effects"
anyway the way it works in game is like closest to an adrenaline rush so like sweating lightheadedness higher heart rate faster breathing
cunning moth
viral tendon
anyway the way it works in game is like closest to an adrenaline rush so like sw...
They should add a hero with low iron, every couple minutes they just fall to the floor and are invulnerable
sleek dirge
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/pharah/
Thank you 🫶
lost helm
isnt pharah x mercy like an underage ship
bc iirc mercy worked w ana in ow and pharah was still a kid so the age diff must be huge no ?
i might be wrong idk
hushed jetty
no
if you're talking abt that one picture first of all its a weird pic in general and second of all they were 12 and 17 there
they are 5 ish years apart
worn latch
Is definitely strange but not technically illegal
hushed jetty
5 years isnt even really strange when theyre both in their 30s atp
sharp trench
Its strange when they grew up together
worn latch
5 years isnt even really strange when theyre both in their 30s atp
It's strange to date someone when you knew them while they were a child and you were an adult imo
Ur the weirdest thing in this community
hushed jetty
It's strange to date someone when you knew them while they were a child and you ...
alr thats more fair
sharp trench
Not wrong
Ships are awful
Real ships r cool
Speaking of which null sector ships
They should make one a map
wind wind
I feel we need more best friends everyone hates each other here
sharp trench
It could be a 2C map or a hybrid map
sharp trench
No
merry token
Real ships r cool
sharp trench
Real ships r cool asf
obsidian vessel
Is anyone else down bad for tracer????
merry token
Old homophobic church friend gave me his ow comics book because of this specific comic ☠️
worn latch
NO WAY LMAO
keen summit
Old homophobic church friend gave me his ow comics book because of this specific...
Lmao
Shouldve said "uhhhh no its a guy with a girl name and uhh long hair etc" in true history book fashion
keen summit
Yknow, i was saying venture doesbt need a tragic backstory but cant think of many that dont a tragic story. Maybe zen but i can only confidently say brig
keen summit
Zen has a tragic backstory we just don't know what it is
Ah aight
Sym? Cuz ig she doesnt know?
keen summit
Oh then i didnt know haha
golden oak
Emily so fine ngl, tracer is lucky to have her
keen summit
Bad leo
keen summit
Its a joke
native gulch
Was aboutta say that’s not phrased very bonkably
golden oak
Btw I love the spray we got for pride last year with Emily and Lena, I wish I had the soldier one with Vincent 😭
You can’t buy it with credits, right?
keen summit
Idk but probs not
golden oak
Most event stuff is unavailable so probably
I hope they bring it back for this year’s pride
peak escarp
they do
honest thicket
lost helm
is there a reason in lore that genji got a different suit when he joined blackwatch
rare trail
chronologically that was his first suit
so like he just got upgrades over time to get to the suit hes at now
over time it would be like
young genji
blackwatch
nomad(even though iirc this skin isnt shown in canon)
overwatch 1
overwatch 2
lost helm
over time it would be like
young genji
blackwatch
nomad(even though iirc this sk...
but
wouldnt nomad be after overwatch 1 ?
since he left overwatch and then travelled the world / met zen then came back for ow2 ?
lost helm
rare trail
yeah nomad would be after ow1
"left overwatch" is kinda inaccurate since ow like shut down but whatever
lost helm
fair fair mb
worn latch
over time it would be like
young genji
blackwatch
nomad(even though iirc this sk...
NOMAD IS CANON??
lost helm
as far as i know no
but the skin description mentions he travelled the world after overwatch was shut down
stiff zephyr
So Mirror Universe season is next
Wonder how much effort they're gonna put into the alt universe lore
lavish vessel
Uprising
hushed jetty
yeah
rare trail
what?
rare trail
no
rare trail
hes been beaten by orisa twice and winston once
rare trail
cybernetics
cobalt hinge
Ok thx
I thought he was from like a deadly tribe or smthin like that
Whos the strongest
Oh k
Everyone has there weekneses
Venture op bro
rare trail
orisa
why mauga and rein
and orisa is stronger than doom
no it wasnt???
have you read the book
tracer isnt in hero of numbani iirc
doom got beat by winston too
doomfist had a bunch of troops
cobalt hinge
rare trail
and the fact you thought tracer was there tells me you dont know much about the fight
efi is 13
she didnt help in that fight
and lucio doesnt have strong offensive stuff
and what do you mean a weakened doomfist
why not winston
winston beat doom
no
doomfist went to jail
winston beat him
ok
pallid light
mercy might be the worst choice for the mythic from a lore perspective. her rank would probably be similar to moira’s means she’s not as powerful or influential as someone like doomfist. reinhardt would be the equivalent; others with potential for great skins would be reaper/soldier due to the things they could do with their voices. not very pleased
worn latch
I thought reaper would get the mythic tbh
rare trail
mercy might be the worst choice for the mythic from a lore perspective. her rank...
they could just change mercys rank
also idk why rank would matter for a skin
spare fox
all it is is "mirror universe" so what if Mercy was a bad guy i.e. in Talon in this case
rare trail
yeah thats what the skin is
fresh rock
If it's Mirrored Universe I doubt it'd focus on Mercy.
spare fox
Focus? We're talking about the confirmed Mercy talon skin >_>
fresh rock
Yeah, but I'm saying that the Mercy Talon skin wouldn't be THE big bad
Because Mercy would be supposedly mimicking Moira
past copper
Who knows. Really seems people are only assuming Mercy getting the mythic
But… they did make it a point to tease her…
Frankly, it should have been a dps hero, but maybe they’re trying to be more random
And to be fair, many heroes would have been bad guys. Unless it’s just focused on the opposites of Overwatch agents
Tho, I kinda doubt either Soldier, Winston, Mei, or Ana will appear on the BP for the theme
Oc, if it is mirror, maybe we see what it be if Mercy, Genji, Tracer, Rein, Brig, joined Talon while Reaper, Doomfist, n Sombra were to be in Overwatch 🤷♂️
We can only wait n see what the trailer has to show
viral tendon
Oc, if it is mirror, maybe we see what it be if Mercy, Genji, Tracer, Rein, Brig...
I doubt reaper would get a overwatch skin since he technically has both blackwatch Reyes, and soldier 24 but since he’s one of the original there’s a chance
spare fox
same thing with Bap but in reverse, as much as we NEEEEED more Bap skins, he's already covered here
drifting viper
We already have talon bap skin so they wouldn't do him
past copper
Well, it depends on what they would do for opposites
Between Overwatch n Talon agents
worn latch
Maybe lifeweaver will finally get his Vishkar skin....
past copper
Doomfist, Widow, n Sombra as Overwatch agents
Mercy, Genji, n Tracer as Talon agents
And possibly Sigma n Rein as OW or Talon agents respectfully
past copper
Maybe lifeweaver will finally get his Vishkar skin....
It depends. There always is one skin that isn’t on theme to the BP
Like Winston’s Ringmaster skin in this season
Although, I kind of think that’s a hint to possible later season themes
I can see it now… Circus Overwatch
worn latch
It depends. There always is one skin that isn’t on theme to the BP
LET ME DREAM
past copper
LET ME DREAM
I’m not saying it won’t happen. But you never know 🤷♂️
Tho, we haven’t exactly seen a lore skin in some time…
Last time we ever got one was Sojourn’s vigilante skin from season 6
worn latch
I was gonna say monk ram for some reason 😞😞
past copper
Yup. It’s unfortunate. But you never know. They might give us the last story missions that were completed at the most
I’m only going on that based off the coming theme tho
But they clearly had that mission done with Zenyatta and Talon
I’m not saying continue PvE. But to at least give us what’s done instead of leaving it to collect dust
keen summit
It depends. There always is one skin that isn’t on theme to the BP
S7 didnt have that
All were victorian horror or other horror things
Or the collab
wooden sleet
It's always one skin that's off theme. I wonder why they keep on doing that
hushed jetty
that didn't suit the theme
you could pretend it was a halloween costume if you squinted
unfortunately squinting would not save the skin from being ugly af
peak escarp
It's always one skin that's off theme. I wonder why they keep on doing that
probably because they have ideas for other skins
wooden sleet
unfortunately squinting would not save the skin from being ugly af
Hey now his buzz cut is cool
wooden sleet
probably because they have ideas for other skins
Why not just put it in the shop than the battlepass
worn latch
unfortunately squinting would not save the skin from being ugly af
Literally
Imagine if ramattra got a low taper fade
past copper
Pretty sure in the beginning it was to have a skin at the end of each level
But now I guess they just do it to hint at later BP themes
Although that not saying much since it wasn’t until season 6 or 7 they were trying to keep skins on theme
keen summit
i hate that s6 didnt give any tanks omnic skins
like cmon my fav theme has NO skins for my role?!
past copper
I mean, the Null Sector tank in question was Ramattra
So, idk what to say
Maybe they just didn’t consider any other tank for Null Sector theme
keen summit
nah i loved them
but they didnt make sense for the heroes either
so like, null sector rein, or null sector doom or sum couldve been SICK
past copper
Well, we will see in the coming week
Maybe they will stay on the Talon theme
They have many heroes to work with
keen summit
Maybe they will stay on the Talon theme
i mean we already knew mirror universe was coming
so will be both heroes and villain swap
also, when venture origin story
past copper
But… I feel we won’t see certain heroes on the BP given they are already on the current one
Too bad. Talon Mei might have been sick
copper atlas
I don’t think there’s any way to make Mei menacing
past copper
Give a backstory like, “Talon raided Ecopoint: Antarctica and found Mei”
keen summit
I don’t think there’s any way to make Mei menacing
we have for years
copper atlas
She’s a dumpling with feet
past copper
Tho, I still say if your giving us a Talon theme in some form
Can we at least get the finished story mission(s) involving Talon?
hushed jetty
i dont think its Just a talon theme, im hoping we get both sides
keen summit
its mirrored
keen summit
i dont think its Just a talon theme, im hoping we get both sides
yeah its not, they specifically said mirror universe theme, villain and hero swap
keen summit
vishkar lucio please im begging
nah, talon lucio cuz hes with them atm, and then u can say he joined because he believed they could help him take down vishkar, make vishkar work with overwatch instead
hushed jetty
yeah talon lucio is the more obvious choice but come ON we barely have any vishkar stuff
past copper
If mirrored, what if some possibilities like Sigma taken in by Overwatch instead of Talon or Mei saved from EA by Talon after being forgotten by Overwatch
hushed jetty
yeaaaaah
keen summit
and ofcourse, mauga deciding to instead keep fighting for ecology
instead of losing himself after surgery
past copper
I completely forgot bout Mauga. I keep doing that
keen summit
doomfist unlike his predecessor joining overwatch for the evolution of humanity
sojourn actively fighting overwatch instead of just advocating against them
copper atlas
Winston gives up
past copper
What if Jack was the one who joined Talon instead of Gabriel, while Gabriel became the vigilante hunting him down
hushed jetty
and ofcourse, mauga deciding to instead keep fighting for ecology
DEEPSEA RAIDERS SKIN PLEASE GOD
mauga takes the deepsea raiders leadership into his own hands and keeps them running
keen summit
DEEPSEA RAIDERS SKIN PLEASE GOD
or just, he joins overwatch
ramattra advocating for peace
through actions
hushed jetty
or just, he joins overwatch
we can get more interesting than that cmon
past copper
Possibly faces to cover this theme besides Mercy. Jack, Gabriel, Ramattra, Zenyatta, Doomfist
Zenyatta formed Null Sector while Ram stayed with the Shambali?
hushed jetty
i mean the samoan base was first overwatch owned
well yea
but the deepsea raiders' shenanagains eventually made overwatch give it back
keen summit
Zenyatta formed Null Sector while Ram stayed with the Shambali?
Nah
Mondatta wluld
Zen isnt mirrored ram
Mondatta is
past copper
Mondatta dead tho
They not gone bring him back for a theme
I’d say that’s like the only unbreakable rule of Overwatch anymore
Dead characters stay dead
keen summit
They not gone bring him back for a theme
No. But they coulf say ram is
copper atlas
Until they’re not
keen summit
Ram would be the mondattathere
past copper
They definitely wouldn’t kill a character for a limited event theme either
hushed jetty
well it would he interesting though
if in this au some characters were honest to jod dead
keen summit
They definitely wouldn’t kill a character for a limited event theme either
In that lore would be dead
past copper
Hence why Ram n Zen make more sense
Zen could have been the one to find Ram n bring him to the Shambali
copper atlas
Mondatta just need a new cpu tbh
keen summit
Ram and zen arent mirrors tho
past copper
Mondatta just need a new cpu tbh
Mondatta was finite. His sentience cannot be replicated
copper atlas
So storage was corrupted?
past copper
Ram and zen arent mirrors tho
They actually are. They both learned under Mondatta, but both walked down completely different paths
past copper
So storage was corrupted?
Can you store a human’s life on a chip? No
You can’t do that for an omnic. Their lives can be lost forever like that of a humans
keen summit
They actually are. They both learned under Mondatta, but both walked down comple...
However compare their motivations and methods
Even their orbs show it
hushed jetty
theyre mirror enough tor the sake of this au
keen summit
ramattra is all about saving all omnics with actions, not words
mondatta about saving all omnics though words, not actions
hushed jetty
i dont think we need to get That accurate. just enough to make cool skins
keen summit
i just dont see the argument ryu made about mondatta being dead
like, and?
the thing why i doubt he'd get a skin is cuz if u make mirrored skin for ram, its just his wandering monk skin
so its more likely that if they make an accompanying comic, theyd have him be dead
hushed jetty
i imagine if zeb and ram wrre "swapped" itd just be null sector zen and not ram too
god i hope we get a comic
a short story even
keen summit
i imagine if zeb and ram wrre "swapped" itd just be null sector zen and not ram ...
yes, and that would likely be just an epic skin
cuz in reality, ram vs ravagers is just his purple paint and his clothes
hushed jetty
null sector zen could be legendary if they went hard enough
hushed jetty
theyd find a way
keen summit
yeah, they made tatsumaki and mime legendary
but, realistically it shouldnt be. as model swaps wouldnt make sense
worthy rose
but, realistically it shouldnt be. as model swaps wouldnt make sense
0 sense
keen summit
as u can see, the only true changes from ravagers are his dreadlocks, which is hair head change which is epic. then colour changes and his scarf and pants
zen already has a scard, and pants
short holly
I don’t think those classify as pants
keen summit
so realistically, all he'd need to have is some simple colour changes and be like ram in that way
keen summit
I don’t think those classify as pants
i know
its funny how it gides everything BUT the crotch
like he really went "wearing pants, but not!"
short holly
“I’m not naked, see?”
keen summit
tbf tho, ram is the type to find it stupid to actually wear pants cuz thats a human custom
he hates human customs
short holly
Eh
He’s not above human customs.
He doesn’t hate them all
short holly
He wears clothes still..at least a form of clothing
Clothes aren’t really customs per say
Everyone wears clothes
keen summit
keen summit
Everyone wears clothes
orisa
short holly
Gesture, not custom
short holly
orisa
And she has some form of covering
She wears a cloth and has numerous markings that could be considered clothes (armor)
And when I say “everyone” I mean it’s a universal thing. Some people and or omnics might not wear clothing, but most do. Majority rules, therefor everyone
keen summit
nah i get you
but its likely way simpler for ram
he likely lives in antartica
so having some cloth to cover important parts for him like his neck and legs could be important to make it a bit easier
the rest being open is for mobility's sake
imagine having orisa irl by your side tho, mad usefull
oh i left my bike there, well no worries orisa is there and if they try to steal it, which they wont cuz a huge robot is next to hit, she'll take care of it
hushed jetty
something ive been thinking about
i wonder if the god ais have the same amount of quote unquote "sentience" as orisa and echo
like in the sense that theyre not technically sentient but they sure act like it
i think so tbh bc of what we know about uhhhhhhh
Chernobog
bc that one's last words were "I understand. I'm sorry." before being shut down
spare fox
That's something to ponder
I was kind of thinking they weren't sentient like omnics that have a personality but more that they are just super advanced programming
split geyser
guys i need help with a debate, me and my friend were debating about who is stronger with real life implications, illari or doom. His argument was that doom is strong and can punch, mine is illari can throw the sun at somebody, who is right
rare trail
so like not all abilities in game are like real in lore
split geyser
what can she do in lore then
rare trail
we only really have her origin to go off of and thats not much
she can be like a human bomb with the solar threading thing ig but thats a massive machine
doomfist is pretty strong in lore
hes been beaten by winston and orisa so not the strongest but still p strong
split geyser
ok i thought she could literally shoot a star at someone (pretty devastating)
rare trail
i mean she caused a massive explosion
we dont know that
"Illari continues her daily training"
split geyser
thats kind of silly, its literally the game that they made
rare trail
most sigma has done is like made some stuff float in code of violence and thats it
hushed jetty
hypothetically, sigma solos
but in canon... sigma probably still solos
rare trail
we dont know how strong sigma is
hushed jetty
actually in canon idek if sigma would focus long enough to fight
hushed jetty
you cant say he "doesnt know how to use his powers" when we barely even know what powers he has
hushed jetty
he made stuff float