lore-discussion

[native gulch]

Baptiste flirting is already a good sign he’s joking.

[worn latch]

Bro flirts with anything that breathes

[native gulch]

But Baptiste, with a doctorate? Further, several of them?

[golden oak]

Yeah he was usually straightforward with his flirting and wasn’t lying about himself

He deadass said to Ana she’s pretty

I think if his intention was to flirt with mercy he would be more straightforward like he was with other heroes

[worn latch]

There is no way he's talking about sigma tho

😭

[hushed jetty]

that would be insane 😭

[native gulch]

Sigma has two doctorates at most, his brain’s been broke for how many years now?

[worn latch]

Does bap even actually know sigma?? Like fr?? Does he canonically know any of the talon cast (other than mauga) /gen

[native gulch]

And he was doing a lot of work up there

[hushed jetty]

he's like a billion years old and we dont know how long he's been gravityfied

at least a decade

[golden oak]

Handsome (subjective but id say check), Kind - check, several doctorates - check

[worn latch]

He's like 70 bro

Handsome where

[hushed jetty]

gilf

[worn latch]

He's kind of a cutie but like

To mercy?

[hushed jetty]

maybe she's into older men

[native gulch]

And besides that I don’t think Bap would make that kind of joke… even if it’s all true

[worn latch]

The age gap is insane in general too

[golden oak]

Maybe that was bap’s idea of a joke?

[worn latch]

She's into genji 😭

[worn latch]

Doubtful

[hushed jetty]

older men, and genji

[golden oak]

We know for a fact SHE KNOWS siebren

[worn latch]

Y'all better leave my girl alone get her away from Grandpa 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️

Okay but does Baptiste know him

[hushed jetty]

hard to tell really

moira does, reaper does, sombra and doom do, baptiste . well

[golden oak]

Bap is like, „Hey girl, youll never guess who i met in talon”

[native gulch]

The Talon suit exists but it’s almost certainly not canon. He’s probably stuck in a lab somewhere idk

[worn latch]

That's kinda funny actually

[tacit yoke]

@worn latch omgomg I was playing lw again and they called methe f slur yesterday

[worn latch]

Canon event it happens to us all

[hushed jetty]

once ovw learns he was in talon he will have some CRAZY tea to spill

[worn latch]

Baptiste ultimate gossiper canonical

[golden oak]

Guess What i was called for playing doom 💀

[hushed jetty]

NOOOO 😭

[native gulch]

I can definitely see Mercy getting along well with Sigma but… actually other than Genji we don’t really know “her type”

[worn latch]

I routinely get called a fairy

[hushed jetty]

i cant wait to be called slurs for playing venture /j

[worn latch]

Nah fr 😭😭

[worn latch]

I think they did get along

[native gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[worn latch]

But that doesn't mean she was attracted to him 😭

[native gulch]

Exactly

[worn latch]

Grandpa needs therapy not a partner

[native gulch]

I don’t think therapy will help here…

[worn latch]

😞

[hushed jetty]

therapy will NOT save him i fear

[golden oak]

I wonder if mercy could fix his brain damage

[worn latch]

How

She's not that kind of doctor

[native gulch]

Well if she’s saving Genji from being chopped up idk what she can’t do but she’s also not a psychologist

[golden oak]

Isnt medicine in their age like miraculous

[hushed jetty]

hang on gang im getting reports of torb lore

everyone hold

[worn latch]

WHAT

[hushed jetty]

will report back momentarily

[worn latch]

Torb my boy

[native gulch]

Torb lore? One of our most well documented characters, more lore? Sweet

[worn latch]

Mercy isn't a neurologist I don't think

[native gulch]

More lore is always sweet

[worn latch]

Cuz he's the best character

https://tenor.com/view/over-watch-torbjorn-dance-moves-gif-16523189

[golden oak]

Doesn’t she practice like all medicine?

[worn latch]

No idea actually

[golden oak]

Btw I think moira could actually fix sigma but just chooses not to so they can keep manipulating him

[worn latch]

Wait who posted that

Come back

😭😭😭

[hushed jetty]

reporting in

new interaction apparently

[worn latch]

OMG

[hushed jetty]

on midtown he might say "new york's chief engineering advisor has returned"

[worn latch]

Oh fr

[golden oak]

Bruh

Boring

[hushed jetty]

youre mom is boring

get owned

[golden oak]

Who cares about torb

[native gulch]

Well not huge but like

[hushed jetty]

me .

[worn latch]

ME!!!

[native gulch]

It’s something

[worn latch]

I love torb

[native gulch]

He is ready to work

[worn latch]

Hard work pays off

[hushed jetty]

for the last time, im SWEDISH!

[peak escarp]

Torbjorn did some engineering advising during the crisis

helped New York with their defenses

it was mentioned in Declassified

[peak escarp]

link?

[hushed jetty]

dont have one but i'll go into the interaction initiator custom and see if i can trigger it

[hushed jetty]

it does NOT want to trigger for some reason, will try later

[peak escarp]

👍

[brave wyvern]

Midget

🤏

[worthy rose]

So basically there's was a pear and that pear walked up to mt Everest to collect the forbidden soap at the top of the mountain but when he got up there he found a symbol that said overwatch and had coordinates so he went there and found a monkey who said he needed him and that's how bastion was made if you look intently you'll see a pear on bastion

This is now cannon blizzard pls make this cannon

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting @worthy rose

[twilit nacelle]

@wind stump Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

What

What is a shitpost I think my posts are very good

I like them

[peak escarp]

they're not

[worthy rose]

Ok

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel

[worthy rose]

I'm sorry I just want blizzard to put an pear on bastion

Ok

[worthy rose]

I'm sorry

[covert marsh]

a shame they cancelled story missions

[hushed jetty]

theyre not "cancelled" but people on the team think they might eventually be

thats not what the article said

[covert marsh]

well i hope not. they left us with a cliffhanger with that last cutscene with zen

ur prf pic is a throwback holyy

mystery skulls?

[hushed jetty]

yuhhhh im in my mystery skulls era

[covert marsh]

good stuff

[past copper]

They’re more likely coming out slower than planned, mostly bc I’m 100% Microsoft had some automated system pick the number of employees to fire

But nobody actually looked over those picks before firing them

[hushed jetty]

firing gavin is still so insane to me

[covert marsh]

they laid off like the majority of staff who worked on different aspects of the game, including those who were in charge of the lore

i hope they dont butcher it

[past copper]

Like I said, they didn’t know who they were laying off

They just had some system skim through employees

List them and whoever was in charge of it lay off whoever was on that list

[covert marsh]

but why tho

[peak escarp]

cutbacks are normal when a company gets bought out

[past copper]

BC mergers always lay off people from the company they bought. Idk why

[covert marsh]

i guess so, but its a shame

[peak escarp]

it is

[past copper]

The crazy thing is that we don’t know if they’re going to hire new people or not

Bc work can’t get done as fast if you’ve cut teams in half

[worn latch]

They should only hire people to continue lifeweavers lore

[gloomy pulsar]

bros the fun police

[obsidian vessel]

canonically do you think mauga used his manipilative ways to get laid

i dont think he'd have to use on me to get me in to bed with him...

[viral tendon]

Lore only :(

[delicate swan]

whats baptistes lore. Havent really checked at all but figured yall would know

[pastel stirrup]

did tracer and emily meet before or after the slipstream incident

28

what abt her age makes you sure tho

[peak escarp]

we don't know when Tracer met Emily, but we do know that they were together before Storm Rising, which was 7 years ago

[pastel stirrup]

i c

[peak escarp]

Tracer's first mission after the slipstream accident was the King's Row uprising, which was 8 years ago

so she was 19-20 when the accident happened

[pastel stirrup]

is there a voiceline mentioning emily in storm rising

[peak escarp]

yes

[pastel stirrup]

do you remember it

[peak escarp]

    Sojourn: Depending on how things turn out, I might be able to swing you all a few days leave before you need to report back to base.
    Tracer: How's that for motivation!```

[pastel stirrup]

bro got the receipts ready to go

how do you do that

[peak escarp]

it's easy to find on the wiki

[pastel stirrup]

i c

i personally would prefer if they met before the slipstream

would be more interesting

[peak escarp]

would be more heartbreaking for Emily

[pastel stirrup]

yea

[worn latch]

Yay we're talking about my favorite lesbians

[peak escarp]

there's a popular headcanon that Emily was one of the hostages at King's Row

and that's how they met

[worn latch]

Omg

Wait I love that

[pastel stirrup]

my current headcanon is that they went to the same school

nah they're together well before that

in london calling they're already living together

which is when the assassination takes place

it's not a mission it's a comic series

on the ow website

oh i thought you were talking abt london calling mb

[peak escarp]

I keep hoping they'll remaster those missions and put them in the game permanently

[pastel stirrup]

i think they've dropped the idea of majorly progressing the lore entirely

what's left of the pve is feared to have been cancelled apparently

i heard asmongold talking abt it

[peak escarp]

we don't need PvE missions to progress the lore

they can do it in stories and animation

nothing has been confirmed anyway

[pastel stirrup]

that's fair

i would prefer a series like arcane

arcane was sick

the thing is tho like

[worn latch]

After the anime I think they could do really well

[pastel stirrup]

with ow

[worn latch]

Because the adaption seemed very good

[pastel stirrup]

most of the caste give like either main character energy or main villain energy

[worn latch]

Lifeweaver should be the main character....

[pastel stirrup]

it'd be hard to split the focus between all of them

without having some feel more sidelined than others

[worn latch]

I think the MC would be Winston

[pastel stirrup]

that's a gripe i have with the invasion missions

but that is too short a sample size

so idk

[pastel stirrup]

probably

[peak escarp]

old list, but

[pastel stirrup]

or tracer

yeah

[worn latch]

I doubt the entire cast would even be mentioned in a series

[peak escarp]

no it would probably focus on just Overwatch

[pastel stirrup]

true, like arcane has a select few
then again that means you could do multiple shows focusing on different ones

[worn latch]

I think they should make the entire series about sym and lifeweaver

[hushed jetty]

not just old this is ancient good god

the ow1 icons were so ugly in comparison wow

[worn latch]

WHAT

I loved them

They were mewing

Bap looked goofy as hell tho

[pastel stirrup]

i actually like them

they're comic booky

[peak escarp]

for the new heroes...
primary hero:
primary villain: Ramattra
secondary hero: Sojourn
secondary villain: Mauga
tertiary hero: Kiriko, Lifeweaver
tertiary villain: Junker Queen
tertiary neutral: Illari

[pastel stirrup]

oh was gonna post one i just made for the pve missions but i don't have perms lol

[hushed jetty]

they looked fine back then but in comparison to tue current ones theyre ugly

[pastel stirrup]

nah they've definitely got a different style but i wouldn't say ugly
i like them both pretty evenly

[peak escarp]

antagonists

[merry token]

This. Like 90% of the heroes got a glowup in their ow2 portraits

[vagrant sedge]

I never knew Sigma was a villain

[peak escarp]

he's controlled by Talon

[vagrant sedge]

Interesting

[remote oar]

or if sigma was in ow and rein was in talon

[zenith mango]

When more hanzo lore

[spare fox]

At this rate, in 2032

[remote oar]

real

[viral tendon]

Would he be considered a villain? Does he have the mental understanding to know what he’s doing is wrong or ?

[vagrant sedge]

Perhaps he should be considered neutral like Wrecking Ball

He's only answering to whatever boss he has at the time

[viral tendon]

Isn’t Hammond just chilling in junkertown since he landed there or js there more Hammond lore I missed

[golden oak]

I think he went on a journey after becoming the champ

Since he’s not considered a full-fledged junker

[native gulch]

2077

[peak escarp]

Hammond is the Junkertown Champion, but he's got the freedom to go where he wants

like in the short story Thoughtless Gods

[remote oar]

if he is champion and JQ is queen, can she defeat him? Did i miss something?

or is JQ like the best of the best and Hammond is just below her and is champion

[spare fox]

I think of it like a Queen-Knight situation but they're also good friends. Thoughtless Gods highlighted how much they have in common

[trim void]

I would like know the lore of the black man with the giant arm and white suit outfit

[empty jacinth]

I’d like to know what brand of croissant sojourn canonically enjoys

[keen summit]

queen has no reason to fight him

he won the mech battles she held for entertainment

or well, the battles

if nobody challenges the junker queen, she just stays queen, and if someone does and loses, she still stays queen, ball very well could beat her but he has no interest in leading junker town so why would he

(not saying he could, more as in, he might be able to. just showing that it doesnt really say anything as he has no reason to challenge queen)

[viral tendon]

Doomfist?

[covert cove]

this is a very important question tbh

[peak escarp]

in Thoughtless Gods Hammond says that the Queen was the only person ever able to beat him

[golden oak]

We need Hammond vs doomfist battle

Or better yet, Hammond vs Winston

Since they have beef

[drifting vault]

the staff that banned me 6 years ago for calling spicy food gay, if your still there fy

[peak escarp]

if you don't want to get banned again, I suggest not shitposting in a serious discussion channel

[drifting vault]

dc🤡

[azure bluff]

Unlikely to happen but I feel like one of the more exciting fights that could happen in OW would be Mauga vs Doomfist. Both have unstoppable force and immovable object energy

[past copper]

They legit already fought

[azure bluff]

I legit haven't been paying enough attention to the lore, please disregard last

Ended with a draw. How fitting. It mentions he'd be getting regular cybernetic upgrades, maybe a rematch would end differently?

[zenith mango]

Ur chillin

[hushed jetty]

doomfist has gotten stronger too i imagine so idk

[peak escarp]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestNurturingLegTBCheesePull-BrmUco6cHC7XUZ9n

Aaron Keller mentioned upcoming comics and "a cute, unique piece for Venture" in today's interview with Flats

[hushed jetty]

RAHHHHB PLEASE GOD

ive been so obsessed with them since we got that pic of their render

[native gulch]

Plz gib Venture lore

[sullen frigate]

Venture lore: "She eats rocks" that's why her teeth are fucked up.

For a character that borrows, they seem to have a job that revolves around construction. I wonder if she's some sort of construction worker or the like.

[worn latch]

They

[hushed jetty]

archaeologist

theyre an archaeologist

[fair sierra]

imagine if doomfist was called freakyfist and he

[rapid mountain]

Reaper joined Talon because of Moira right???

Why is he still there???

From his voice lines with her, he doesn’t seem to like her very much

Or be grateful for her experiments on him

[peak escarp]

where else would he go?

[rapid mountain]

On his own???

I mean Winston is leading Overwatch

[peak escarp]

Talon has resources

[rapid mountain]

Would Winston deny reaper

[peak escarp]

and he probably still needs Moira to do upkeep on him

[rapid mountain]

Wasn’t the only reason he left because of a beef with Soldier 76

[peak escarp]

Winston and Reyes didn't get along

[rapid mountain]

Soldier left

Oh

Does reaper get along with anyone??

[peak escarp]

he was friends with Jack and Ana

[rapid mountain]

It seems like he doesn’t have any positive relationships.

I thought he hated Jack

[peak escarp]

and he was a good mentor to Cassidy

[peak escarp]

they were friends at first, but their friendship broke down in the last few years of Overwatch

after the Venice Incident, Jack didn't trust Gabe anymore

and after Ana "died", there was nobody to play peacekeeper between them

[grand sluice]

okay guys who needs the Drake video

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[grand sluice]

DRAKE🥵

[viral tendon]

What the fuck

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[viral tendon]

Was Ana like a middle ground between the two guys?

[peak escarp]

she was their friend

and we see her kinda mediate between them in the Uprising comic

[keen summit]

He was back in the super soldier days the only one who kept believing in him too

[distant sparrow]

is doomfist weaker than winston physically (seems so from the doom origin story)? what is the strongest hero physically?

[keen summit]

Strongest physically is likely doon winston orisa or mauga

Orisa can withstand anything, which needs strength, doom is probs strobgest physically but we dont really know

[distant sparrow]

if doom is the strongest physically then why did winston beat him in the origin story?

[keen summit]

Well we didnt really see the fight

[distant sparrow]

we can assume winston won though, doom probably didnt willingly go back into prison

and it was winston since genji and tracer did no damage to doom physically from what we could see

[keen summit]

But it was implied Winston just punched his face really hard, u can be stronger but still get knocked out from that

[distant sparrow]

their fists connected

[keen summit]

Winston won, we know that yes

[distant sparrow]

thus winston stronger

[keen summit]

And doom has one powerfull Fist, Winston has two

[keen summit]

Not exactly

[distant sparrow]

so doom isnt stronger physically, he relies on the fist

is that your point?

[keen summit]

Yes, obviously otherwise doom wouldnt even be among those

[distant sparrow]

so you admit doom is weaker than winston

[keen summit]

He has one strong arm, winston was boosted by jetpack and had two + a jump while doom was standing still

[keen summit]

Depends on whether or not u take ghe fist into equation, and what u define as stronger

If lifting strength, how much they can deliver in one punch etc

[distant sparrow]

i define stronger as physically stronger

[keen summit]

Yes but in what context

[distant sparrow]

wdym

[keen summit]

Orisacant punch hard but can take dooms punches and keep stabding there

For example

But that needs physical strength

[keen summit]

As i said, it depends on context. If its without anythibg no gear no nothing it would be between Winston and mauga

[distant sparrow]

thats just orisa being heavy af

and she's a robot so its not like she'll get strength over time just from being heavy

[distant sparrow]

k

[keen summit]

Cuz doom strength is cuz of gauntlet

We dont know if doom gauntlet is stronger than a normal mauga or Winston punch tho, as doom v winston punch was doom standing still and winston winding up, taking a sprint, a leap + jetpacks to get to him which ofcourse adds kinetic force

[distant sparrow]

fair point ig

[keen summit]

And with mauga we dont know if their fight was with or without gauntlet and guns and how much weaker he was then before the new upgrades he got

[distant sparrow]

mauga fought doom?

[keen summit]

yep

[distant sparrow]

k

[keen summit]

and got at a stalemate

we dont know the details tho, it was just after doom took over talon after killing his master and before mauga joined

we dont know if it was without or with gauntlet cuz doom did at the time have access to it, or with or without guns (i think not cuz it makes more sense for mauga to get em AFTER he joined talon)

[distant sparrow]

ok

[keen summit]

Yes however not outright said means not confirmed

We dont know how much stronger the doomfist makes, well doomfist and mauga isnt an ordinary human, we also dont know of the enhancements do anything like make Winston physically stronger

[tranquil orbit]

Any ideas for what the special thing theyve got planned for venture is

Cos apparently theyve never done whatever the thing is before (i think flats asked a q in his interview w aaron keller abt animated shorts)

So chances are it isnt a short but he also didnt give specifics

[keen summit]

Where was that said

Maybe comic or sum cuz they never did that iirc

Like right before

Or maybe merch

[tranquil orbit]

Lemme try find the time

Around 46:00 on this https://youtu.be/YwaXNpR5DrA?si=Ffz7IMHVkba_RdLt

[peak escarp]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestNurturingLegTBCheesePull-BrmUco6cHC7XUZ9n

[tranquil orbit]

Comics were mentioned separately

So im thinking it might not be

It's possible though

[keen summit]

Thank you i dont watch flats

[keen summit]

Interesting tho

He went from huge to unique

[worn latch]

I hope venture has the deepest most gravelly voice to ever exist

Like a mobster or smth

[past copper]

Doubtful. I'm predicting more of a personality and voice like Mirabel from Encanto

The similarities are uncanny

[peak escarp]

the only thing they have in common is a hairstyle

[worn latch]

This feels a little strange!

[peak escarp]

it's impossible to tell what sort of personality Venture will have

all we know about them is their appearance

[keen summit]

I mean from the art we have seen they seem easy going fun lover

Is that all? Unlikely

[keen summit]

And on this, its also not exactly a rare hairstyle either, for males and females, making it perfect for non binary char

[peak escarp]

I just mean that we don't know enough about them to say that they're "just like Mirabel"

[keen summit]

Thats true yeah the only yhing u could say os hairstyle which isnt exactly.. important. I mean maugw and illari share a style mauga just has more but theyre not similair at all

And for the rest they seem easy going, but like thats not exactly unique to mirabel thats like most main chara

On the venture thing, whag if its like a music video boyt their lore? But jq has that too

[worn latch]

That's what I'm saying....

I think we know the similarity that they're comparing bro to

[hushed jetty]

i dont think so - the deepsea raiders fought overwatch too

so it's hard to tell but i imagine he got them then

in his origin story its the same chainguns from what i can tell

oh that one

yeah ik what you're talking abt

im talking abt after he gets big

i assume he was in talon here but that doesnt necessarily mean he didnt have them until he got to talon

its probably the same shirt at least yea

ye im very interested in deepsea raider lore

[fossil notch]

can someone explain to me why Ana is always portrayed as an offensive one shot standard assassin sniper in th comics and story but in game she has a healing gun that isn’t your standard rifle, I know she stole mercy’s techonology or something, but I don’t understand there’s defo a piece I’m missing

[peak escarp]

she was a standard sniper during the crisis

the healing gun is a prototype that uses Mercy's tech - Ana stole it back from the UN after Overwatch was disbanded

[fossil notch]

yeah so do they ever portray her as a healer in the comics of the stories ?

Cuz maybe I’m just having lackluster knowledge abt this

[peak escarp]

yes

she heals in the comic Old Soldiers

as well as in the short stories she appears in - Bastet, Valkyrie and Lost Ghosts

[ruby ridge]

Checking in to see the reaction to the pve stuff

[peak escarp]

it's pretty minimal in here

the lore exists with or without the PvE

[ruby ridge]

That’s lovely I expected ppl crying on their knees to the information

[peak escarp]

most of the lore community saw it coming

we just didn't want to admit it

[grand wedge]

Aaron announced comics on its way so… lore will continue, just not involving us as players

[peak escarp]

which I'm okay with

they fired most of the PvE team anyway

[grand wedge]

In January yeah

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[peak escarp]

god didn't make Overwatch, stop shitposting

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[past copper]

A troll would think rules are lame

You got no perms

They especially don't give perms to shitposters

[tacit yoke]

I knew it

that cupid outfit makes sense now

[peak escarp]

enough

[past copper]

Alright this the part a mod shows up and mutes you

[peak escarp]

don't antagonize

[hushed jetty]

i was trying SO hard not to doompost about pve like everyone else was doing but bruh

come the fuck ON

[raven steppe]

@worthy rose free my boy yidog, he did nothing wrong

[past copper]

Pretty sure the situation is either til they get more people in to work on it

Or until they rake in more money

Whichever comes first I guess

But til then we just gotta get what we get with new heroes n comics

[hushed jetty]

according to some bloomberg article its straight up not being worked on anymore but i can PRAY they come back to it someday

[past copper]

To be fair, it's Microsoft fault

I 💯 promise they didn't think about who they were firing

I prefer to believe they haven't straight up given up on PvE

But that just me

[peak escarp]

the lore will continue without PvE

[past copper]

I'm not saying it won't

Just saying it was fun having a story to the game

And it was looking to get back on track after Kodick

But Microsoft ruined those chances

[ruby ridge]

Overwatch 2 hasent been financially successful according to the journalist

Apparently ow1 made the 250 somethinf million ow2 made in its life time in one week

And ow2 has so many more expenses apparently

And PVE ISNT profitable

[peak escarp]

it can be if it's given support

and not tacked on to a F2P PvP game

[past copper]

Majority of that money came from loot boxes anyway

Yet when prices are laid out before players THEN it's a problem to em

That just how all games are nowadays

Just bc they're F2P doesn't mean everything in them is free

The devs of the game gotta make money somehow

If players want it updated regularly

[ruby ridge]

True

In this state pve is always gonna be connected and be second hand compared to pvp

[peak escarp]

I'm just happy we have comics to look forward to

[ruby ridge]

Same

Hoping venture releases with some comic or short story atleast

[past copper]

Comics are fine. But I just loved actually experiencing the story

[ruby ridge]

Personally pve was eh for me, I just don’t have much fun actually fighting the robots, the locations are cool and stuff but

[hushed jetty]

the pve missions themselves were mid but since then we've gotten limited time pves that were frankly Better

if they remastered the pve to be up to the standards of like, cosmic crisis or the diablo event, itd be goated

[ruby ridge]

Cosmic crisis, starwatch and trials of sanctuary imo are geniuneky better then the actual PVE missions

Well

Not better factually

I just like them moire

Diablo

[hushed jetty]

trials of sancutary was the diablo one

where you got items n shit

imo yes

[ruby ridge]

I wish we got a comic for cosmic crisis or something

The AU thing wa so interesting

[hushed jetty]

for REAL

i just know theres some crazy cosmic crisis lore we dont know abotu

like wtf happened to torb

[ruby ridge]

Yeah exactly, like I just imagine a AU where talon/ow heroes united against the tentacle monster

That’s why sojourn is friendly with widow and rosdhog etc

And the monster corrupted everyone on earth giving them monster like apperances

Battle of the beasts was barely pve to begin with honestly

Barely any lore it’s just like two Orisa fighting over territory

[hushed jetty]

battle of the beasts was half flashpoint half Shoot the Giant Horse

[golden oak]

Since pve is most likely cancelled, can we count on the lore that was supposed to be there in some other form

[peak escarp]

most likely

we already know there are comics coming

(topic unknown)

[golden oak]

Good to know

[peak escarp]

I just hope they give us whatever cutscenes had already been finished

[golden oak]

Yeah, although without the missions they might seem out of context

[peak escarp]

they could bridge them with comics or narration or something

[golden oak]

I’m wondering how much they had done

I think suravasa had some gameplay footage shown but in like early stages
But that was also long ago so idk

[peak escarp]

there were some in-progress scenes from 2019 that we haven't seen yet

[golden oak]

I think since suravasa mission is the next one chronologically, it would have the most stuff done

[peak escarp]

yeah some Suravasa gameplay too

[golden oak]

I think suravasa should be done completely
Idk about other two that were supposed to come with it

They wanted to give 3 missions every 18 months allegedly

That was the plan

[tulip quest]

Mango

[golden oak]

Would be a shame if suravasa was done but didn’t get released because they wanted to release in batches

[dreamy shoal]

Now that pve is scapped and never happening again the least they can do is give us an animated TV show with the animation similar to either the mauga and sombra short or 3d animated like in the pve animations. I know everyone likes saying that blizzard is "a small indie company" but let's be fr they got the money to pop out an animated TV show with like 8 episodes lol

Or maybe an idw comic series, people will read those I bet

[native gulch]

Who ever said Blizzard is small? Even before Microsoft bought Activision-Blizzard they were considered triple A. Even considering just Blizzard they’re not exactly what you’d call “indie”

But like

[worn latch]

When people say that it's a joke lmao

[native gulch]

If League can pull off a Netflix show and Konami can pull off a Netflix show at this stage in their lifespan (not one but two), then Blizzard could get a deal in a heartbeat.

Though I guess Konami has Bamco backing

[regal sluice]

Is this real? PVE is scrapped? this actually made me so sad 😔

[dreamy shoal]

Yeah but they originally said pve missions would come out every 18 months but now their scrapped.

[past copper]

Bet if players voice their negative feelings about it, they’ll start them up again

You never know since they “try” to please the player base

[spare fox]

PvE should just be a new game with a different team

[manic torrent]

guys which sombra skin is better cyberspace or augmented

[past copper]

That’s not lore

[worn latch]

Augmented imo I love the color palette

[jolly vapor]

Yep, beyond the obvious crap going on internally at Blizzard, this is also directly the result of players not supporting the idea of PvE. In no way am I saying that anyone with reservations about the quality of the 3 PvE missions that dropped are wrong, I happen to agree that they should of been a lot more. But that sentiment actually contributed to the cancellation and it really sucks. It really does. We are now left with a shell of a game of our own doing.

[peak escarp]

Blizzard releases sub-par missions then were surprised nobody liked them

[sharp trench]

its hardly our own doing icl

it was blizzard's fault to begin with having a bunch of internal issues and misguidance

[magic wren]

Why is there a Lorre channel I never knew ow had a lore😭

[lament salmon]

Wait a damn min

I recognize you

My old discord was hacked what’s up

[peak escarp]

?

[lament salmon]

I remember you know like everything

😭😭😭

It was about a year ago

[peak escarp]

I have no idea who you are

[lament salmon]

I don’t expect you to 😭😭😭

Dwww

But I remember your name

How are you

At some point I asked you where you found the cool screenshots and you sent me a link

Like screenshots from blizzard

[peak escarp]

the press center

[lament salmon]

Yess thank you

I needed them for wallpapers

[worthy rose]

Mortals

[tropic sorrel]

Hello lads

[twilit patrol]

Every games has lore

[rocky ferry]

Tetris

[twilit patrol]

Most of them anyway

Even Geometry Dash has lore but a very little bit

A little bit (really)

Thank you very much

[keen summit]

there is like, so MUCH

[twilit patrol]

And MORE

[steel plover]

It's sad we'll never learn like 90% for like... Well never

With pve being cancelled

[steel plover]

Also happy birthday

[twilit patrol]

Thank you!

[twilit patrol]

Yes 😔

[wooden sleet]

So like is the latest lore available online?

[peak escarp]

the latest lore is the book Heroes Ascendant

one of the short stories is available online

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/heroes ascendant a friendly rivalry/

the others may be uploaded later, we don't know

[keen summit]

well not really 90%

thats just the story tbf. the lore itself is stil there

[magic wren]

Omg so I can have $20 back?

[peak escarp]

no

[keen summit]

You payed for it, you couldbe waited and checked for reception of it

[tacit yoke]

20$ is replaceable are you that broke

[magic wren]

well throwing $20 at a game to give me some story quests with some ass lore is kinda pointless
Besides finishing these missions rlly was a torture I just wanted the soj skin 😭

At least gimme a compensation

[peak escarp]

you got what you paid for

[past copper]

And if players were more supportive towards the story

Maybe we still would have gotten some missions

But oh well

It wasn’t just picky players, a number of issues were behind this

But still, it didn’t make things any better either

[slate sentinel]

Suffer as I have

[worn latch]

YOOO so that dude who always came in complaining about pve being canceled was a prophet

[slate sentinel]

Pluh

https://tenor.com/view/ramattra-overwatch-2-overwatch-balls-gif-7415810577456065023

[past copper]

No. What he was is the very example of unsupportive players

[peak escarp]

right or not they were disruptive

[past copper]

Yes. That too

[magic wren]

Me?? 😭

[past copper]

No

[tardy barn]

i want to join a team i want to j try out that do tournament practice everyday please DM me please i want to talk to your team captain

[past copper]

The guy who always came in acting entitled needing to know everything Blizzard was working on

And doomposting over PvE

[magic wren]

Ohh yeah

[merry token]

#tournaments

[past copper]

Only thing I can say is I think if enough players complain, maybe MAYBE

They could start working on PvE again

But players gotta be more supportive to make it happen

[tardy barn]

why nobody is talking to me people are ignoring me

i want to join a team

[peak escarp]

you're in the wrong channel

[tardy barn]

sorry

[potent galleon]

hello guys please watch my freind on twitch he realy good as sym player his name F1n4lly_OW
give him love please ^^

[past copper]

Wrong channel

[potent galleon]

where i can talk abut it ?

[peak escarp]

#overwatch

[potent galleon]

ty

[wooden sleet]

Its still not available on kindle

[past copper]

It just recently released. Of course it won’t be on kindle yet

[wooden sleet]

idk where I can get the ebook of it

[grand wedge]

there isn't any e-book version of the book (yet?)

[dreamy shoal]

Is there a way I can read the new book for free? Like a website or pdf file or something?

[merry mason]

I wish there was too

but no, though they released one of the stories on the blizzard website

[vapid locust]

Should be on there website

[tranquil orbit]

Sooooo apparently they WERE gonna kill off rein eventually?

Have no idea how legit the source is but it also doesnt surprise me

[merry token]

What source 😭

[hushed jetty]

what source is this from

[tranquil orbit]

Random person claiming to be a dev on twitter 😭

Ik it's sketch i just think it's believable

[merry token]

Send the account ☠️

[tranquil orbit]

Wait wait lemme find

https://twitter.com/WolfNamedFox/status/1771558998023557441?t=CbxCCM02eRgZbR5bGOEdBw&s=19

Apparently worked on cinematics

Not like it matters those arent seeing the light of day😭

I do hope at least some of the ones from the next set of missions release like on the overwatch youtube channel

The genji and zen reunion one could v well be finished and there's no reason in my mind not to release then even if it's without the gameplay

Like lets keep it real most of us was playing for the cinematics anyways

[hushed jetty]

bro was on jod gonna die

[tranquil orbit]

I mean look theres 0 credibility behind the claim 😭

[hushed jetty]

very true

[merry token]

😭

[hushed jetty]

not even anything in their bio

[tranquil orbit]

The fact it was paired w zen standing on his feet is also sketch cos he's already been on his 2 feet

[hushed jetty]

crazy if true though

[tranquil orbit]

In the last set of pve shots

And i imagine if u were working on cinematics you'd probably know that so it's a tough one in terms of believing them

But for now rein has escaped death

So to speak

[hushed jetty]

https://x.com/TheHornetsFury/status/1771651711007887363?s=20

do we reckon this tweet is vaguing this guy

[tranquil orbit]

Aint no way 😭😭

[tranquil orbit]

It might actually

Nah im gonna wait to see what happens theres no way this ends here

[signal estuary]

whats going on?

[hushed jetty]

someone who claimed to be a dev who worked on cinematics said that they planned to kill rein

[past copper]

Like it matters

Real or fake. Doesn’t really matter if the story missions are scrapped

[hushed jetty]

theyll probably bring the story back in other forms

comic or story or something

[tranquil orbit]

Most likely going to be spread out over comics, short stories and animated until they scrape enough money to try launch a series

[peak escarp]

it's not canon until it's published, so it doesn't matter if it's real or not

[tranquil orbit]

Or rather studio interest they basically need to partner w a dedicated animation studio and w a streaming service like netflix or prime to make it a reality

[tranquil orbit]

I mean it's always interesting to hear what they had planned even if it doesnt ever surface

[merry mason]

You guys should learn about this thing called lying

[opaque tundra]

they could very well be lying but you never know

we'll just have to wait and see

[spare fox]

see that's the beauty of the lie, whether it's a lie or not, because if it's a lie, then it was never going to happen. if it's the truth, it's still not going to happen

[opaque tundra]

it could tho

[hushed jetty]

comic or story or something

[opaque tundra]

i hope you guys know that the narrative team can easily tell the story pve was meant to tell through external media

so that "leak" could still very well happen

theres a chance that they could change things

[peak escarp]

it could happen

it could not

it doesn't matter until it does

[opaque tundra]

exactly

[spare fox]

it's probably fake, nda's would have them sued for loads of money and they'd probably never work in the industry again

[opaque tundra]

or they're about to get sued

if the tweet gets deleted, that may be a sign

i love me some Schrodinger's cat situations

[tranquil orbit]

Tbf i was saying it was sketch but still

I think the thing that made it seem weird was the fact they said we were gonna see zen standing when weve already seen him standing in a cinematic before at the end of the last set of pve missions

[tranquil orbit]

But then there was this

[sharp trench]

oh so thats how they're nerfing rein

[hot hornet]

This is like a not so serious question that my friend asked me the other day but does sojourn need to use the bathroom?

[peak escarp]

I assume she eliminates waste same as any other person

[golden oak]

We don’t see a colostomy bag on her so I’d assume that too

[viral tendon]

Off topic you talk like a medieval doctor

[peak escarp]

I dont want to be crude

[viral tendon]

Touché

[tacit yoke]

are mccree and hanzo a couple why do I see so much of it

[hushed jetty]

it's just a popular ship

[spare fox]

the two of them have never even met in canon storyline

[drifting viper]

True

Bob and cassidy would make way more sense

[twilit patrol]

Correct

[past copper]

I mean… Sym and LW seem to have something for each other

[twilit patrol]

I remember when people were talking about Roadhog x Mercy or something like this

[hushed jetty]

i like a lot of ships but mercyhog flabbergasts me. like what do you mean

[twilit patrol]

Wasn't it an April joke?

[past copper]

I don’t know what to say. Fans are just… weird

[twilit patrol]

Wait

April fool yeah?

Ok that doesn't matter anyway

[worn latch]

I think their relationship is cute platonic or romantic, but either way it's clear they love each other

N e ways Sym literally calls Lifeweaver good looking in their story

What

He's kicking his feet n giggling

Beware my magical tree

[hushed jetty]

april fools this year gonna go hard i just know it

the mauga and illari lines will be peak i fear

[worn latch]

I need lifeweaver to kill people when he drops his tree on them

I'm begging

Let him lifegrip enemies

But like

Deathgrip

Hehe

Death grips

[past copper]

You know, it’s just a thought. But maybe they should have saved hacked for April Fools

The craziness that came from it would have made more sense as an April Fool’s joke

[worn latch]

I got double solo ulted by two reapers at the same time

[tacit yoke]

unlucky

@worn latch they were trash talking lw earlier saying he the worst support I wish you was there to defend your man

I know theres good ones that make him viable I'm just not that gurl

[worn latch]

Lw is the best support ever... He's literally perfect

[past copper]

Ok. But this ain’t lore y’all

[wooden sleet]

So like what exactly are the limits of life weaver bio light?

[worn latch]

Currently we know he can make a tree that heals, vines that work similar to his lifegrip, and both of his fires (DMG + heals)

But I doubt there's many limitations of something like that, seeing how much you're able to do with hardlight

I want him to make a venua flytrap so bad

[keen summit]

Sadly we dont know what the in lore limitsare

[keen summit]

Also we dont know if he can do these in lore, likely it can cuz biological light that can probs heal etc and the dng. We dont know if he can do that with tree in lore. Atm we dont know the limits of hardlight and biollight, just that it seems to always need a projector

[worn latch]

All of the things I said are shown in his short story

[keen summit]

Then my bad

[worn latch]

I'm never wrong about lifeweaver

[keen summit]

Didnt notice it was you, saw huntress profile pic

[wooden sleet]

I know symmettra is essentially a green lantern

[wooden sleet]

People weren't kidding calling him tree jesus

[wooden sleet]

That's unfortunate. Not gonna lie his powers remind me of anodites from Ben 10 alien force

Wait how exactly does light heal?

[keen summit]

In his case he somehow made hardlight, what sym uses, biological matter

Its practically like say if ur bleeding he can basically put fresh skin or even fresh blood of your type into you, if i understand correctly

Hardlight and biollight if they have no limits it makes lw and sym both in the top of power

but we dont know exactly. alot of ow is psuedo science. i enjoy trying to figure it out how it should work logically but with alot of stuff its kinda it just works or isnt explained exactly

cuz lw practically creates life, creates living cells out of nothing

[wooden sleet]

Oh well that's just busted

[keen summit]

yep

if there are no limits, sym lw and sig are by far the strongest

[next jewel]

So hardlight and biolight are just the equivalent of magic in Overwatch

[keen summit]

not really

they have 1 hard rule from what we've seen

it needs to be projected

we dont know exactly how it works, but it is explained in a semi scientific way, its a material that isnt exactly light, but light somehow turned well hard. we dont know how it works exactly but thats the short way of it

magic is kiriko, hanzo and genji

[keen summit]

....

well the street of gibraltar, but im not sure actually

i would think spain right

cuz thats where gibraltar is

yeah nvm as i said spain

quick question for ascendant owners, what has been said roughly bout lijang with the ball story

[worn latch]

This is the truth

[keen summit]

hes closer to a god with creating life

[worn latch]

UGH there's this great fic about lw that I always feel the need to mention because it characterizes him so well it feels like a real source but I can't bring it up 😭😭 that made me think of it though

[mortal plaza]

donatella VERSACE 💜

[worn latch]

Reporting...

[wanton crypt]

😹😹😹

[drifting viper]

I want to see 76 and reaper fight to the death

[tepid edge]

they kind of already did

[past copper]

The Watchpoint: Gibraltar is located Iberian Peninsula in the Rock of Gibraltar

It doesn’t look the same as it does today in the OWU because the sea levels rose from global warming

[past copper]

Hammond’s origin story and his past coming back to haunt him

[amber smelt]

dead game

[empty jacinth]

What about Winston

[peak escarp]

Winston is not magic

[tacit yoke]

better than val ur mad

[golden oak]

Val just got a better nb hero I’m afraid

[hushed jetty]

we havent even met venture yet 😭 wdym

[past copper]

We’ve seen Venture’s abilities, mostly

Not bad. Drill bit shot, drill charge, tunneling/high jump, ult…unknown

Realistically, I’m curious to see how they implement that tunneling into a cinematic

[golden oak]

Design wise

[hushed jetty]

ah

[golden oak]

And much cooler abilities

[magic pecan]

We should be getting a tester week upcoming within the next week or two from the interview the Aaron Keller

[past copper]

I’m not gone hold you. Ima hate gaming again Venture

I know that tunneling ability gone be a pain the ass to deal with

But who knows. Gotta wait for the testing weekend before judging

[worn latch]

I mean it's the same thing as wraith reaper or fade Moira

It'll be countered pretty easily

[pine junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373224368685187072/1203350081474924575/IMG_7605.gif

[peak escarp]

Valorant's NB character doesn't seem very NB

[hushed jetty]

they're just feminine

which is the unfortunate way a lot of nb characters tend to go

i'm glad venture is a little more on the androgynous side

[wanton crypt]

who would win in a 1v1 rein or doom

[peak escarp]

Doom

[tacit yoke]

ow better cus theres less cis str8 men that play but yea clove kinda better..

[worn latch]

Non binary people don't owe you androgyny!! They can look however they'd like

I love their Scottish accent tho that easily makes them 100% better than venture

[peak escarp]

rude

[worn latch]

It's also difficult to have an entirely androgynous character. Even bloodhound who is extremely androgynous still gets mistaken for a man

Even tho their va is a woman

[merry token]

Only currently like Clove better because they have their own song 👁️

[hushed jetty]

i hear venture's voice sounds very androgynous so i have high hopes

[dense nebula]

Scottish? Isn’t Venture supposed to be pure blood Canadian?

[peak escarp]

Clove is Scottish

the NB agent from Valorant

[quasi wind]

reaper

[worn latch]

We were talking about the val character

[viral tendon]

do we know/have theorised any characters that may be invovled with venture and their story?

[hushed jetty]

ana presumably

since hamid faisal is involved w the archeology ppl venture probably works for and is also connected to ana

[peak escarp]

Venture is part of the Wayfinders, the archeological group behind the digs at Petra, Ayutthaya and Ilios

[past copper]

I kinda wonder if Venture’s cinematic is going to involve Talon or something

They seem the types who would try to steal ancient artifacts from a place like Petra

It’s hard to say based on Venture’s character and affiliation what sort involvement we can expect to see in the OWU

Although, could we rule out that perhaps Venture is at Machu Picchu and accidentally meet Illari?

Get two heroes in one cinematic. Haven’t had more than one hero in a short since Zero Hour

[peak escarp]

what makes you think they're getting a cinematic

[past copper]

Bc if we ain’t getting story missions anymore, there very little excuse why we can’t get animated shorts more often for new heroes now

That pretty much all the animation team can do now

[peak escarp]

the decision to cancel the PvE missions was made a while ago, and yet there hasn't been an increase in the number of cinematics

Venture will just get an origin trailer, same as everyone else

[fresh rock]

Ah shucks.. :[

[peak escarp]

well, as far as we know

a cinematic would be a nice surprise, but I don't expect one

[hushed jetty]

i think ol what's-his-name said they didnt really have any cinematics in the works rn

at least not actively

that is definitely not what he said im paraphrasing awfully

[peak escarp]

he said it's too soon to say anything definite

[hushed jetty]

see. awful paraphrasing

[keen summit]

that one defo aint better designed, they dress like a kindergartner

[golden oak]

Since when kindergarteners wear chokers

[golden oak]

Where did I talk about players

https://tenor.com/view/djsbloodline-gif-21825903

[wooden sleet]

I wonder... do you think they are gonna start doing music videos for new characters. Like how valorant does?

[keen summit]

Meant more with the cat pants, the hello shirt

[keen summit]

Probs not but who knows

It could be the "new way of showing new heroes"

But would require more effort and budget

[keen summit]

tbf its so well doen cuz they sound both masculine and feminine at the same time, imho venture has the same in looks but clove just looks SO feminine it feels weird that theyre non binary to me

[native gulch]

INDEED!

[worn latch]

Not every single non binary person has to look like how you perceive androgynous to be

Clothes don't have a gender

[keen summit]

I meaannb there defo are feminine and masculine looks

Otherwise femboys wouldn't exist

[worn latch]

That's because of social standards

Because gender is a construct, and going along with that clothing is gendered because of the social construct around gender

Clover looks non binary because they are non binary

You might just have some internalized issues

[keen summit]

Nah even some nb people i talked to said the same

It wouldve been more powerfull if they were male ngl

Like how lw has all the flower and pink stuff basically

[worn latch]

Why does there assigned sex have anything to do with their character?

It seems strange that's what you're focusing on

[worn latch]

That's because his character is based around non conforming

That's why he's androgynous

[keen summit]

Really now? No its cuz its weird to givea NB character, which should then be about not conforming to any of the things so overly feminine

I have no prob with it, just an odd decision

[worn latch]

Why do you think that?

Saying all non binary people should conform to looking androgynous is conforming

[keen summit]

I already explained that

[keen summit]

This isnt a person

Its s character

[worn latch]

And all non binary characters don't need to be androgynous because androgyny doesn't equal being non binary

[keen summit]

Making a nb charactrr overly feminine makes the common folk refuse to acknowledge it and probs see it as attention seeking

[worn latch]

Are you even non binary?

[keen summit]

never said i am

[worn latch]

If not, I don't understand why you think you have a say on this

[keen summit]

Again, ive seen how others see it

[worn latch]

How many others? Like 4 lol?

[keen summit]

Hell no

Valorant community in general keeps saying they cant ve nb etc cuz their looks etc

And the majority yes

[worn latch]

Well they're wrong and this is internalized transphobia! Hope this helps

[keen summit]

And quite a few others found the choice weird tooz including some nb people

[worn latch]

I think that they need to grow up ☠️☠️

Non binary people can look like however because androgyny doesn't equal being non binary

[keen summit]

Obv, its an ingame character

I found the choice weird isall

Idrc that much cuz again, its not like its harming anyone, its just a weird choice to make the most feminine character nb

[worn latch]

Because they don't conform to what you view as a non binary person, as you've explained

[keen summit]

Not exactly, i find it a weird choice for representation. Im very aware that irl they can look however the hell they want

Afterall that nb friend of mine, is very feminine

[worn latch]

So why is it different for the characters

?

[keen summit]

Because again, i get making it lean towards one side but making the nb the most feminine is weird

[worn latch]

Most feminine?

How?

Their clothes are pretty androgynous other than the tights really

They have short hair

[keen summit]

Face has lots of feminine features, the eyes, obv all the pink, the cat shorts with tights, like the very short shorts, earbells choker (those two less so but often considered more feminine)

[worn latch]

You want them to change their facial features? LMAO

Again, clothing don't have a gender

Wait

Doesn't

😞😞😞

Pink isn't a gendered color either

Guys... They wore pink... They're a girl guys...

[keen summit]

Its a game, theyre immortal and thats what ur worrirf about

[worn latch]

You're the one who said having feminine facial features doesn't make them seem non binary

[keen summit]

I said that that is feminine in design

Not that it doesnt make them non binary

Ive actively refered to them as well, them

I said the design os very feminine

[keen summit]

And no, obviously not. However in general pink is considered more feminine, does that mean men cant wear it? Obv they are allowed to idv

[celest dirge]

what is this

[worn latch]

Which is the least u can do ☠️☠️

Doesn't mean this entire conversation isnt u being upset cuz they don't look nonbinary to you

[worn latch]

I don't understand your point here tbh

Feminine color but men can wear it without being considered feminine ?

[native gulch]

They’re not “overly feminine”…

They’re some of the most androgynous NB rep I’ve seen in ages

[keen summit]

Most people ive asked bout it feel exactly the same

[native gulch]

And besides AGAB is irrelevant

Not sure why you’d bring that up.

[keen summit]

Again aong saying they dont look nb, just saying its a weird choice as hpw the general population would see it its all feminine

[worn latch]

The general population? You mean transphobic people who would misgender them either way LMAO?

[native gulch]

What “common folk”? The average players who don’t pay much attention to the lore anyway and so would just make their own assumptions regardless of how androgynous Venture is?

[keen summit]

No? Legit the general people including quite a few lgbtq people

[native gulch]

I’ve heard them called both “he/him” and “she/her” by people who haven’t paid attention.

[keen summit]

Im not talking bout venture?

Im talking bout clove from val

This character

[peak escarp]

discussing Valorant is off topic

[keen summit]

I know i know

[worn latch]

I was just defending my baes honor

[keen summit]

But to end off ghis convo, i find it a surprising and weird choice, but a welcome one too cuz it shows that entire part of being allowed to be feminine while still being nb, its a weird choice, not a bad one

[keen summit]

I agree with ot being dumb complaining bout venture tho

Theyre like bloodhound, really hard to tell their gender before transition which personally I do prefer and would be how most would see it

(though i will admit my dislike of clove is likely mainly cuz god that outfit looks like the typical edater look)

[worn latch]

They look like one of those 2020 indie kids to me

[primal wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/mauga-mauge-overwatch-2-overwatch-2-tank-mauge-chest-move-moving-chest-gif-11559110627569796505

WHAT

NOOO

[worn latch]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[primal wigeon]

-Lifeweaver lover

Don’t wanna hear it

[worn latch]

No pic perms LLLL

[wooden sleet]

What did I walk into

[merry mason]

what reason do you think mars guy has to go to earth

[wooden sleet]

Maybe something happened in lunar colony that got the people of Mars concerned

[peak escarp]

the plot is on Earth

[wooden sleet]

They could go to earth to express their concerns of lunar colony

Since the only apes are in that place

[merry mason]

...

[peak escarp]

you asked why they'd come to earth

that's why

[merry mason]

the in game reason

[peak escarp]

that is the in game reason

obviously they wouldn't say it like that

but that's the reason

[merry mason]

yes, I remember Space Ranger Overwatch's famous quote, "I need to get to Earth to continue the plot of Overwatch 2™"

to be clear im talking about character motivation

[peak escarp]

we don't know anything about her

it's impossible to guess what her motivation is

[keen summit]

we cant know yet, as legit all we know is that she is in the mars colony

she doesnt even need to in lore be on earth

[azure bluff]

Just like no one else needs to be on Mars in the lore for a Mars map... Hopefully...

[peak escarp]

incorrect

Doomfist, Sigma, Reaper, Symmetra, Baptiste and Lifeweaver don't have associated maps

[past copper]

Technically, Doomfist is affiliated with Numbani

And technically, Sigma was affiliated with HLC

[peak escarp]

loosely

and having a map from their home country isn't the same as being affiliated with the map

Reaper is American

and Baptiste has no connection to Samoa

how

[past copper]

Can't remember if Bap was from the Caribbean or Cuba

[peak escarp]

Sigma has at least been to HLC and done work there

Baptiste is from Haiti

that was in Haiti

in Baptiste's hometown

Cassidy has been to Japan, that doesn't make him associated with Hanamura/Kanezaka/Hanaoka

[past copper]

Illari also doesn't have a map. Not yet anyway

[peak escarp]

soon though

[past copper]

U know I think Venture might be the first hero connected to Petra n Ilios

[peak escarp]

loosely

no, they're Canadian

but they're part of Wayfinder, which is the archeologist group working in Ilios and Petra

[past copper]

No

It's not always about a character's ethnicity

[peak escarp]

oh wait, Doomfist is associated with Numbani, so take him off the list

[past copper]

Yep. Akande and the 2 before him

No. That map is more connected to Lifeweaver

[peak escarp]

like I said before

[past copper]

If anything, Sym would have a small connection to Rio, but only bc of her mission there

[peak escarp]

just because the map is from her country doesn't make her associated

Cassidy has no connection to Midtown or Hollywood

however, she does have a connection to Suravasa because of the short story Stone by Stone

which I forgot about

she met Zenyatta there

yes

[past copper]

Didn't Mei pass through Hollywood on her journey back to Gibraltar? Idr

[peak escarp]

yes

Dorado is her hometown

and her room can be seen on Castillo

[past copper]

Also, technically Reaper has connections with any Watchpoint, like Gibraltar and in Venice since that mission he messed up

[peak escarp]

conversely, we have several maps with no associated heroes - Circuit Royale, Blizzardworld, Hollywood, Midtown, Ilios, Colosseo, Esperanca, Paris, Ayutthaya, Malevento

[past copper]

They didn't destroy Dibralter

It's just that Gibraltar was one of several OW watcchpoints

[peak escarp]

that was in Switzerland, not Gibraltar

and we don't know why they started fighting

[past copper]

Which Gabriel could have been to. But if that not enough there is the Recall Short

[peak escarp]

but their fight didn't cause the explosion

it was sabotage from an outside force

speculated to be the Eye at the center of Sombra's web of conspiracy

[past copper]

Also, every Talon hero, minus Sigma and Mauga, is connected to Venice where the council table is

[peak escarp]

Sombra wouldn't be connected either

[past copper]

It's not about power and Sombra was there in Doomfist's comic

[peak escarp]

just being there doesn't make her connected

[past copper]

The Talon leadership is about their connections around the world or anything they can offer Talon

Like their skills or scientific knowledge

[peak escarp]

Overwatch isn't really like fighting games where each character has their own map

[past copper]

Actually, Sombra has been in several maps. Volskya, Dorado, Venice, and Numbani

She was helping Doomfist in his attacks on Numbani

Helped Doomfist kill one of the council members

After he escaped prison