Well, he is
#lore-discussion
hushed jetty
he certainly did like protecting the planet previously
idk how much he cares abt that anymore
past copper
Ya know, if we ever get a pirate theme season, I can see Mauga getting a pirate skin for sure
Just imagine two cannons for mini-guns
solar glacier
dva is perfect
keen summit
He is tho, its implied he did want to attack the pelican, messed up and then was like "wait that could work " his reaction is he looks bummed that it didnt hit, then goes hmm and then "hm yeah" basically thinking hey this can work
past copper
Nah. Pretty sure he saw the distress signal, took it out after he noticed it, then got the sudden idea to just take the ship’s power source instead of the blueprint
Frankly, seemed he thought that out far better than Doomfist did
But you can’t really blame Akande, Reaper, or Sombra for not considering the distress signal
The ship was damaged and more than likely thought the signal was destroyed too
dense nebula
He is tho, its implied he did want to attack the pelican, messed up and then was...
Also, ya know, he is just generally bloodthirsty like how in one dialogue he mentions how he’ll give blood to Mercy when she mentions blood donations 
patent blaze
woven yew
roughly how old was ana x widow when ana lost her eye?
little trail
How didn’t reaper kill winston he literally got shot like 6000 times
worthy rose
Winston has plot armor
keen summit
How didn’t reaper kill winston he literally got shot like 6000 times
Genetic modification or sum
dense nebula
roughly how old was ana x widow when ana lost her eye?
What do you mean by that?
Because Ana and Widow were never in a relationship
Unless you just simply meant how old each were when that battle took place
woven yew
Unless you just simply meant how old each were when that battle took place
yes
terrible wording sorry
but thats your fault
dense nebula
woven yew
<:AFrog:585665595685601282>
soo? what is it
twilit patrol
Because Ana and Widow were never in a relationship
Ana lost her eye because of Widow
worn latch
We know
spare fox
she actually originally voluntarily got it replaced with a bionic eye back when she was in the military
Widow shot that one out and she never replaced it
worn latch
It's still her eye tho
So technically the other guy wasn't rock
Weing
Weing
Wrong
peak escarp
roughly how old was ana x widow when ana lost her eye?
Ana was 54, Widowmaker was 27
past copper
Anyone else wanna see how the fight between Akande and Mauga went?
I’d like to watch that fight in action
peak escarp
it would just end with two muscular men hot and sweaty and exhausted... me too
past copper
It be like watching Mike Tyson vs Dwayne Johnson
On that note, funny how Doomfist n Mauga ended in a draw
Yet Winston vs Doomfist ended in his arrest
Certainly puts things in perspective. Which is, never underestimate the genius gorilla
keen summit
Its really scary tho
How powerfull mauga without cybernetics is
Imagine if mauga got the doomfist
past copper
He had cybernetics when he fought Doomfist
Doom just gave him access to better ones upon joining Talon
keen summit
He had cybernetics when he fought Doomfist
His hearts were
golden oak
Ana was 54, Widowmaker was 27
The way she was only 4 years older than current moira but already had grey hair and wrinkles
keen summit
Ogg wait
keen summit
His hearts were
Yeah he had more
golden oak
I guess from the stress from being a sniper?
keen summit
I guess from the stress from being a sniper?
Probs, moira also doesnt emote much
So who knows
Or she somehow found ways tobslow aginf
golden oak
That’s actually possible because telomeres getting shorter is one of the causes of aging
And she’s a geneticist
And we know for sure she experimented on herself
peak escarp
current Moira is greying and has wrinkles
golden oak
She already has grey hair
Yes but a little compared to this Ana
golden oak
He had cybernetics when he fought Doomfist
When did mauga fight doom?
past copper
When did mauga fight doom?
Just after the Venice Incident it seems
After Akande killed the previous Doomfist
peak escarp
so about 11 years ago
the Venice Incident was the year before the King's Row Uprising
past copper
I’m just waiting a for a full timeline surrounding each hero
keen summit
Sadly after kiriko fiasco i doubt we will
past copper
We will. The problem is the ones who made her fucked up her age
peak escarp
it's not hard to figure out each hero's timeline
muted kite
What went wrong with Kiriko? I never had any interest in her lore
peak escarp
her age is wrong
past copper
Which honestly just proves someone didn’t plan her out as accordingly as they thought
peak escarp
she's younger than her bio says she should be
austere vector
Kiriko is in her 30's
austere vector
really?
peak escarp
but maybe the fox spirit makes her age slower
austere vector
could be it
past copper
To be fair, it very well could also be due the leak before her release
peak escarp
Mei's listed age doesn't include the 9 years she was frozen for
past copper
To be fair, given how gradually the shorts dropped since 2016, one person could’ve easily messed up anyone’s age or info
peak escarp
despite that, the lore has been fairly consistent
hushed jetty
my question is how long have the deepsea raiders been around since mauga hung around them "since his childhood" but afaik they were only active after the crisis
wait thats literally just math. im stupid
golden oak
Crisis was 30 years ago
past copper
Probably doesn’t help that some shorts weren’t chronological upon dropping
golden oak
Mauga is 37 I think
hushed jetty
so he wouldve been like 11 or a little older when the raiders started up
maybe a teenager
past copper
Given they were a rebel group fighting for their country, Mauga very well could’ve been the first confirmed child soldier in Overwatch lore
hushed jetty
he was hanging out with them for a while but idk when exactly he started fighting with them
golden oak
Given they were a rebel group fighting for their country, Mauga very well could’...
I think it was about climate
hushed jetty
it was about environmental issues yeah
keen summit
I think it was about climate
Of their country
golden oak
Oh I thought against some company
hushed jetty
they were fighting the polynesian league and you will never guess which country is part of the polynesian league
keen summit
Or however u spell it
past copper
Well, you have to understand, these rebels probably weren’t a big group. It had to have been as many capable men they could get. Even if that included kids
golden oak
If anything they were terrorists
hushed jetty
ecoterrorists
golden oak
Yeah
past copper
Not really. More like a more… assertive version of Lifeweaver
peak escarp
like very aggro Greenpeace
hushed jetty
💀
golden oak
Ted Kaczynski
keen summit
Basically just very angry greta
past copper
I mean, if you’re home was threatened and nobody was gonna lift a finger to help you
You gotta do what you gotta do
hushed jetty
so mauga hung out with them at least since he was a preteen/teenager and then fought doom when he was 26 ish
keen summit
We know
hushed jetty
thats around 10-15 years of the deepsea raiders being around
keen summit
But in the history of overwatch theyre seen as eco terrorists
hushed jetty
we know their activity has "slowed down" but idk if that means theyre straight up inactive now or just not doing much
keen summit
We can see thx to declassified how the world sees people
past copper
I mean, with Mauga joining Talon, they could have easily been backed by their resources
keen summit
I love that bout declassified
Cuz its an in lore history book we see how groups ans people are viewed
past copper
Sadly, they very easily could have joined Talon too given the organization is made up of criminals, assassins, and mercenaries
hushed jetty
declassified being diegetic is really cool yeah
golden oak
Cuz its an in lore history book we see how groups ans people are viewed
How is oasis viewed
past copper
Yea. I’m probably gonna get Declassified for Christmas. I’d like to read more in-depth bout the lore
hushed jetty
ive bought it but i havent read it in depth yet
golden oak
Huh
golden oak
Yea. I’m probably gonna get Declassified for Christmas. I’d like to read more in...
Is there an electronic version? They most likely don’t deliver to my country
past copper
Is there an electronic version? They most likely don’t deliver to my country
They have it on Kindle
Alongside several other Overwatch books
Oh wait. You meant Declassified
No. No there isn’t. Probably won’t be for sometime
golden oak
Oh…
hushed jetty
actually i wonder how long ago exactly mauga got his hearts
past copper
hushed jetty
that does not say how long ago it was 💀
past copper
It kinda does. Because he had to be in his 20s or so to have gotten it
hushed jetty
more than 11 years ago, and long enough that being Always Almost Dead drove him a little nuts
hushed jetty
It kinda does. Because he had to be in his 20s or so to have gotten it
well yeah
past copper
Not sure how old he was when we saw that. 20s are my best guess
hushed jetty
yeah i would guess early 20s
past copper
Hard to say since Mauga looks pretty young from then and now
golden oak
Baby mauga was so cute
golden oak
im surprised we dont have any skinny mauga sprays
I need them
golden oak
Popped up on my tumblr too
peak escarp
I knew I recognized his style
golden oak
They really like drawing muscular characters lol
peak escarp
there's a distinct way he does his colouring that I really like
and the muscles, of course
golden oak
Mauga had the best hero release campaign in a while tbh
peak escarp
they said they want to do a similar sneak peek for Venture too
golden oak
Like a test play before release?
peak escarp
yeah
golden oak
https://www.tumblr.com/nesskain/736031170586968064/some-mauga-sprays-i-did-a-whi...
Oh, they designed orisa griffin also
Skin
hushed jetty
https://www.tumblr.com/nesskain/736031170586968064/some-mauga-sprays-i-did-a-whi...
WOOF WOOF WOOF
sorry. anyways
golden oak
This could’ve been s1 banner?!?!
Also only 2 of those skin were in bp 💀
sojourn skin was also shop
worn latch
https://www.tumblr.com/nesskain/736031170586968064/some-mauga-sprays-i-did-a-whi...
This guy is a god among men
Lord above
golden oak
Ramattra must be really passionate about math since he says “your miscalculations will cost you everything”
soft bear
is it racist to assume omnics are good at math because they're computers
golden oak
is it racist to assume omnics are good at math because they're computers
Not an assumption, it’s a general truth probably
cobalt kite
everyone who interacts with moira shows high levels of disdain for her, and i'm wondering what her deal is. soldier called her a disgrace to overwatch, stating that if he had known what reyes (reaper) had been planning, he would never have allowed it. mercy says she would rather wait a millennium for evolution than cause the harm moira did. hanzo says that there is no honor in the experiments moira conducts (before getting called out on his tainted bloodline)
vapid tusk
Her scientific methods are unorthodox and socially unacceptable
cobalt kite
is she on the level of the high evolutionary from guardians of the galaxy vol 3?
dense nebula
is she on the level of the high evolutionary from guardians of the galaxy vol 3?
She makes him look like a pansy
Look at what she did to Gabriel and Amelia
At least High Evolutionary either makes you a world to live on or just kills you
cobalt kite
don't forget that he completely obliterated counter earth just because the people didn't evolve exactly the way he wanted them to
golden oak
everyone who interacts with moira shows high levels of disdain for her, and i'm ...
Doom, sigma, Junkrat, Sombra, kiriko and maybe bap like her
Idk about cass
He does compliment her but idk
There’s also heroes who are neutral towards her like ball, hog, zen
cobalt kite
Doom, sigma, Junkrat, Sombra, kiriko and maybe bap like her
somehow i don't think bap likes her. he defected from talon and is ashamed of his past, so i doubt he likes anyone in it, least of all a monster like moira
golden oak
somehow i don't think bap likes her. he defected from talon and is ashamed of hi...
He likes Sombra
And I don’t think he’s mad at mauga, just don’t want him chasing him
golden oak
somehow i don't think bap likes her. he defected from talon and is ashamed of hi...
I’m mainly referring to that voice line of bap saying “we hurt and heal, I guess we’re not so different”
cobalt kite
He likes Sombra
ok well sombra's hard to dislike as a person, i think she's awesome. i fucking hate her in-game and wish she would just get straight up deleted, but in cinematics and lore i love her. also she has a habit of screwing talon over for her own benefit if i'm correct
golden oak
ok well sombra's hard to dislike as a person, i think she's awesome. i fucking h...
Well what about mauga
cobalt kite
hmm idk, he seems likable, but there's this thing called "too much"
he just blows shit up and makes everything harder for his comrades
golden oak
Bap liked him
He just doesn’t wanna go back to talon so it’s kinda complicated between him and mauga now
cobalt kite
is mauga the "if you're not with us, you're against us" kind of person?
golden oak
No
He just really want bap to come back because they were a great duo
Since he is a skilled medic and mauga takes a lot of damage
cobalt kite
well what obligation does mauga have to stay with talon?
if he just followed bap's example and left, they could be partnered up again
golden oak
He likes it there
cobalt kite
is talon a means to his ends like just like everyone else there?
reaper wants to exterminate all overwatch agents, sombra wants access to government secrets or something, sigma wants to complete his research, moira wants money for her experiments, what does mauga want?
golden oak
I think maybe talon helps him with resources for the deepsea riders?
soft bear
Not an assumption, it’s a general truth probably
hmmm
cobalt kite
for that matter, why is widow working for talon? i never figured that out
soft bear
she was brainwashed by them, wasn't she?
to kill her husband, an overwatch employee
(i might be entirely wrong)
hushed jetty
mauga is just there bc he likes causing chaos i think
and they give him upgrades for his hearts
idk how active the deepsea raiders are anymore
i think its implied they arent doing much, if anything at all
soft bear
reaper wants to exterminate all overwatch agents, sombra wants access to governm...
to have some fun of course
Idk if we've gotten a good look at Mauga's ulterior motives yet
golden oak
reaper wants to exterminate all overwatch agents, sombra wants access to governm...
He’s not really loyal to talon like we saw in the cinematic but there must be some gain for him there
hushed jetty
nothing about the cinemayic really implied he "isn't loyal" imo
golden oak
she was brainwashed by them, wasn't she?
Yes but she joined talon willingly
hushed jetty
just that sometimes he does his own thing if he has a better idea
soft bear
Yes but she joined talon willingly
From what I know, after originally being kidnapped and brainwashed, no?
hushed jetty
yeah but she didnt have to go back to talon
golden oak
nothing about the cinemayic really implied he "isn't loyal" imo
He destroyed a null sector ship
soft bear
if i remember correctly it goes kidnapped and turned into sleeper agent -> saved -> kills gerard -> goes back to talon for further brainwashing
hushed jetty
this is not false but thats just cause he's a weirdo and likes blowing shit up
soft bear
He destroyed a null sector ship
talon aren't really allied with null sector in the first place
golden oak
She was only brainwashed to kill Gerard, not to be loyal to talon
hushed jetty
he's just not the type to 100% follow orders all the time
soft bear
She was only brainwashed to kill Gerard, not to be loyal to talon
hmmmm
maybe she's just a dick
hushed jetty
if he wants to do something he's gonna do it
golden oak
talon aren't really allied with null sector in the first place
They have some deal tho
soft bear
Yeah Talon assists Null Sector to further Doomfist's goals of human conflict
golden oak
But the mission was supposed to be stealth and it wasn’t, so mauga still sabotaged the mission
soft bear
after disabling the null sector comms though
null sector might still not know talon was ever there, and OW had already destroyed the ship to some degree
golden oak
after disabling the null sector comms though
You think null sector can’t count how many ships they have?
soft bear
it was already destroyed
in the gothenburg mission by OW
talon was sweeping in to grab the schematics from the wreckage
golden oak
Ok but like, not following orders is disloyal, isn’t it
golden oak
Even Sombra followed the orders
golden oak
Besides he has those elimination voice lines “trusting me was your first mistake”
soft bear
all pretty standard for talon though i believe, blizz has described it as a pretty cutthroat, wolf eat wolf organization
what with doom basically killing his way to the top
golden oak
There are loyal people in talon, reaper for example
soft bear
yeah true
and widow
god i just love how genesis, pve and the mauga cinematic are starting to tell a much more coherent story. Can't wait for the next lore content
zero hour and sojourn's cinematic too
vast swift
is it racist to assume omnics are good at math because they're computers
its not racist, its omnicist
soft bear
oh god
maybe not considering them a race is the bigoted move
i am entirely content with 2d animation tbh if it means more frequent lore, but yeah the 3d shorts are absolute bangers
vast swift
ikr, they should do storyline in 2d, fights in 3d Pixar
soft bear
so hyped to see where the story goes with talon kidnapping zen!
soft bear
if you havent already you should watch the pve missions
vast swift
they probably will put that null-sector device on zen
vast swift
and zen might be gone from irl ow2
soft bear
lmaoo
vast swift
xs
soft bear
if they change zen in game to have the device i'm gonna lose my shit
Evil brainwashed zen arc
vast swift
AS A SKIN
soft bear
they can go wild with changing his voicelines too
vast swift
AS IN A MYTHIC ONE, IN SEASON 9 WHERE THEY ADD ACTIAL MISSIONS
soft bear
truth and facts!
vast swift
ikr
soft bear
EXPERIENCE
WAR
vast swift
EXPERIENCE
WAR
lol
soft bear
can already imagine ramattra dealing with the morality of talon delivering a brainwashed zen at his doorstep
soft bear
some people always thought thats what she was saying normally
vast swift
ooooooooooh
soft bear
it became a small meme
vast swift
if i domt understand what they say, i assume its in their launguage
“”gail, the mohawk”” - moira
soft bear
truth
vast swift
wait what is hanzos voice line?
soft bear
Ryu ga waga teki wo kurau
vast swift
as in, what do u hear in englosh
soft bear
oh
soft bear
ryujin no ken wo kurae
vast swift
i hear “eugene” at the start xd
soft bear
eugene cant walk hooray
vast swift
xd facts
soft bear
alright thats enough non-lore lmao
vast swift
xd
so uhh why do ppl have ults, why cant they use their ult all the time?
lucio can drop his mic
rein can slam his hammer
soft bear
rein has no excuse but like
symmetra probably needs to recharge her fancy hard light batteries or whatever
vast swift
also aimbot and x-ray????!!??
vast swift
symmetra probably needs to recharge her fancy hard light batteries or whatever
ye
and tracer?
fresh rock
..what are you two on about?
soft bear
off-topic bullshit
vast swift
why ppl cant use their ults 24/7
edit: what epic saod lol
soft bear
lmao
vast swift
xd
soft bear
i swear we were talking about lore 2 mins ago
soft bear
I'm really not sure what talon wants to do with zen, but it would be typical of them to grab him as an asset or hostage as a sort of insurance against or for negotiating with ramattra
soft bear
have fun
hushed jetty
so uhh why do ppl have ults, why cant they use their ult all the time?
some can, it depends
some ults are just normal abilities in lore
like widow's xray shit is just a thing she has on her visor
soft bear
yeah, maybe it needs a battery swap tho lol
there are some ults we havent really seen in lore afaik, like snowball having any kind of cryo capabilities at all
golden oak
they should add mondatta
Zombie Mondatta
Zomnic
Imagine if ram started resurrecting dead omnics for his army
golden oak
I mean he already kidnaps omnics and steals their souls so
peak escarp
a lot of heroes can use their ults whenever
Ashe has Bob all the time
Cassidy can always shoot good
Widow and Soldier have their visors
Mercy has her suit
golden oak
Rein Can always slam the ground
peak escarp
some heroes can do their ult once, like D.Va
and some can't do their ult at all, like Torbjorn, Echo or Zenyatta
golden oak
I wonder if sig, ram can
violet rock
Hi
past copper
Ya know, a future collab I see might be with Last Airbender given Netflix making a LA series
Which honestly could not possibly be worse than the LA movie
I can just see Aang Zenyatta
Appa Orisa
worn latch
Hanzo zuko?
past copper
I… don’t really know who would be Zuko
worn latch
Hanzo
past copper
IDK. Thinking about it, I can kinda see Genji as Zuko for a few reasons
Facial scar, master swordsman, and a dragon
past copper
Hmm. Well, I guess if Genji can be Genos. I suppose Hanzo could be Zuko
We can only wait and see
Bc these collabs seem to be more or less random
lost helm
peak escarp
!!loreonly
twilit nacelleBOT
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
rustic prairie
Ooops wrong channel
cinder estuary
So my lore people why does Mauga have 2 hearts and why did illari Itachi her whole village
hushed jetty
- because he almost died in a battle and he needed surgery so he didn't Die. they gave him a cybernetic heart and he later replaced the normal one with another cybernetic one
- too powerful, ended up going all supernova on accident
cinder estuary
Sheesh
keen summit
Yeah illari was accidental
She was the youngest inti ever, and couldnt control her power
hardy finch
so
you guys know how junkrat can control his tire in game
is there any lore reason for that
like is there a remote control in his mind
ornsumn
vapid tusk
i don't think it was ever shown in lore
also what's happening here?
this is from JQ animated short
she seems to recall this memory like a nightmare
wild jacinth
Yous ever think the ex junker King will ever be a character?
keen summit
I mean maybe
Like hero candidates matter less now cuz tbh
Theres almost 0 build up to reveals
In ow2
hushed jetty
seems like a lot of our next characters are never before seen
which makes sense, we dont really have a lot of prominent options left
usually hero candidates were minor characters from cinematics/short stories/comics
but we dont really have any more good ones
keen summit
So he cpuld be
But if there is a pattern it might be 1 hero in lore per year, and yhe next 3 seem not to bec from lore
hushed jetty
we dont hsve any evidence of a pattern really
all 4 2022 heroes had been seen in lore before
this year only 1 was seen
venture and space ranger both seem new as well and idk who the last guy is but they dont seem familiar either
wild jacinth
Tbh i really don't like that most new heros are just random with no hype lol
topaz dirge
Maybe an adult more adult version of this guy can become a playable character
Strange I can’t post links
hushed jetty
the ovw release cinematic canonically only took place a couple years ago
wild jacinth
Is it the kid from the first trailer?
hushed jetty
i guess depending on how old he was there, he could be 18 now
regretfully he is just a guy though. like idk whatd be notable about him to make him a hero
topaz dirge
Well as a kid. That might mean he has potential to maybe be like a hybrid between tracer and doom since he got inspired by her.
Just an idea for thought.
hushed jetty
Well as a kid. That might mean he has potential to maybe be like a hybrid betwee...
i dont even know what that would entail
topaz dirge
Well neither do I tbh.
golden oak
I was hoping for one of the gladiators from colosseo to be a hero
Next 3 heroes seem underwhelming tbh
keen summit
Well as a kid. That might mean he has potential to maybe be like a hybrid betwee...
Doesnt make sense tho, why would he copy doom
topaz dirge
Not doom but the tech.
keen summit
Atleast venture has some connections, but cmon making them jus canadian
I mean ut could be cool
But idk
I still want soundquake
But sadly hero candidates dont matter anymore
The only "likely" one left is well... sanjay snd eventually some meka squad
Just not with eject
Sanjay i want, meka squad not at all
Little question cuz i forgot is sanjay an architect too?
wild jacinth
I don't want sanjay or meka lol
digital linden
i think we should get a junker support
digital linden
nooo they would be so cool
merry mason
Little question cuz i forgot is sanjay an architect too?
He doesn’t have the robot arm so I don’t think he is
golden oak
He doesn’t have the robot arm so I don’t think he is
We actually only see one of his arms
He might be just left handed like sym
chrome plover
spare fox
At a minimum.
An Australian for every hero. And then an Australian for each of them, too
But bringing it back, speaking of Australia - Dr. Naughton. Where do you think she went off to?
Besides Australia- we know that already
I think that's why Ana was probably in Australia (Junkertown) looking for her or info the doc is to keep classified about SEP genetics
golden oak
But bringing it back, speaking of Australia - Dr. Naughton. Where do you think s...
Who
Dr Liao was in junkertown probably too
spare fox
Dr. Naughton is the brains behind the SEP program
golden oak
What is that
dense nebula
I do want Sanjay in the game
spare fox
She went (back) to Australia after it was ended
golden oak
Sanjay as talon support? Nah
dense nebula
Surely we wouldn’t have another Vishkar dps?
And we have plenty of Talon tanks as is
digital linden
i had an oc/idea for a talon support but idk if she would work
dense nebula
I feel we need a male talon support since we already have a female one
And vice versa despite me saying we already have a few talon tanks we need a female talon tank
rare trail
sanjay ig
digital linden
who was that tank that got scrapped ages ago
was it recluse
she would be a cool talon tank
dense nebula
Her ult is literally giving her spider eyes
Swings on a grappling hook like it’s a web and uses venom like a spider
digital linden
infrared vision👁️
dense nebula
No I mean the visor itself mimics a spider’s set of eyes
crimson snow
Next patch: widow name change to Blue-Widow
dreamy shoal
Can genji take his mask off? Does he need to eat? Drink? Sleep? Does he go to the bathroom?
crimson snow
Can genji take his mask off? Does he need to eat? Drink? Sleep? Does he go to th...
Didn’t he take off his mask during the Dragons animation?
dreamy shoal
Didn’t he take off his mask during the Dragons animation?
Idk bruh
crimson snow
He can obviously eat. However, his cyborg body might just recycle waste back into his body? Idk. Maybe he takes fat shits after every mission
dreamy shoal
What about liquids? Water and electricity don't mix so ca he drink things?
crimson snow
Next Overwatch short film needs to be about how Genji pisses and shits
past copper
Is There more PVE content coming soon?
Yes. Next year
Potentially revolving around Talon
modest current
Yes. Next year
Next year like a whole year or in 2024
worn latch
Next Overwatch short film needs to be about how Genji pisses and shits
It's confirmed genji still has his pp
🤷
past copper
Do they mention any details?
Only thing we know is they announced it back in August the story missions would be in 2024
Beyond that, we don’t know yet. But there is bound to be something said after season 8
modest current
Okay
past copper
It’s cool tho. I’d rather wait for something I love instead of have it all dropped on me at once
And the story missions are big
That Toronto mission was huge and the India Map is sure to be too
zenith mango
When did declassified come out
How much stuff is in it
And do you need to buy it to read it
hushed jetty
about a month ago, many pages of lore, yes unless you get someone to send you pictures of pages
past copper
Or wait and see if you can get it on kindle
golden oak
Can genji take his mask off? Does he need to eat? Drink? Sleep? Does he go to th...
He Can, it’s just to cover his scars
golden oak
Literally sunlight
dense nebula
I think he meant was how does she channel it
golden oak
I think he meant was how does she channel it
It can cause explosions so just normally, as light and radiation
Idk about healing pylon tho
UV radiation can give you cancer so the opposite of healing
dense nebula
UV radiation can give you cancer so the opposite of healing
You call it cancer prone I call it rich in calories
brittle gorge
Gen chat full of trolls
So imma ask my question here
Why is my lobby in unranked full of master and grandmaster ranked players ?
past copper
Is there any lore about what illari's sun powers are?
Basically, they implanted special tattoos onto her form while putting her through a machine that harnessed solar energy and implanted it into the human body
How she uses them isn’t very clear yet
past copper
Why is my lobby in unranked full of master and grandmaster ranked players ?
Wrong channel to ask
soft bear
Basically, they implanted special tattoos onto her form while putting her throug...
yeah, mostly wondering how said tattoos work and how they and the gun make sunlight able to heal and explode
though we might not have lore for that
also how can she fly 🤔
rare trail
i dont think most of her kit is canon
the only canon material shes in is her origin right?
hushed jetty
the gun and pylon are canon, idk abt everything else
woven jewel
What about liquids? Water and electricity don't mix so ca he drink things?
I'd expect Mercy implemented counter measures so he wouldn't die if someone threw a little water at him
It might use non-electric technology, too, or at least the electric components aren't exposed
peak escarp
that's not Overwatch
true karma
how do i creat vc?
fresh rock
Lore channel doesn't know that one chief
next jewel
What do yall think are gonna be canon abilitys for Mauga next to his charge?
hushed jetty
the chainguns are also canon, i could see cage fight being real since its just a Device similar to winston's barrier projector as far as i can tell
next jewel
Does one actually set enemys on fire?
hushed jetty
i dont know, i wouldnt be surprised
it didnt seem to light the null sector robots aflame
next jewel
Maybe Talon just didn't give him that in the canon, or he gets that ammo after the Great Day animation because bro was cooking
golden oak
Where is Tahiti
dense nebula
Idfk
I just watched LW’s origin story
Such a good one ngl
Where’s that personality in game?
golden oak
Perhaps a better understanding
In the middle of nowhere
past copper
Most OW bases are in the middle of nowhere
golden oak
Wow, that’s so beautiful
past copper
Note Gibraltar and Ecopoint
golden oak
Gibraltar isn’t in the middle of nowhere
past copper
If it’s only accessible via aircraft, it kinda is
golden oak
If it’s only accessible via aircraft, it kinda is
Is it?
past copper
golden oak
Oh I thought you meant Gibraltar the peninsula
past copper
This is the real Rock of Gibraltar right here
golden oak
What map is like the most accurate to the inspiration
past copper
When you think about it, Gibraltar might be accurate
Didn’t the sea levels rise in Overwatch, hence the reason for the sea wall on Esperonça
past copper
Keep in mind, most of these maps might looks different due to global changes. 2070s is a long time from now
golden oak
Petra didn’t change at all for obvious reasons
peak escarp
Brigitte isn't his daughter
dense nebula
She’s his goddaughter not daughter
soft bear
I have a plan
just one last payload!
wind wind
Brigitte isn't his daughter
which comic was duplication again I can't find it
peak escarp
?
wind wind
Echo ultimate
peak escarp
it wasn't in any comic
peak escarp
Echo hasn't appeared in any comics yet
golden oak
Brigitte isn't his daughter
Torb loving his turrets more than brig makes people think rein is her dad 💀
topaz dirge
Torbs turret destroyed-“ My BABY” Torb when Brig dies - :I
golden oak
Rein has no family right? Since he spends holiday with lindholms
twilit patrol
I doubt he still has his parents
golden oak
Yeah but I meant more like siblings, cousins, that kind of relatives
twilit patrol
merry token
Thinking of how a lot of people think Brig is the oldest sibling because of the Christmas image of her, Reinhardt and her nieces and nephews
peak escarp
also she's more associated with Reinhardt than Torbjorn
analog imp
Why does the Resistance mission have me load forever ?
wind wind
Why does the Resistance mission have me load forever ?
it takes awhile but it works
or maybe urs bugged
oh shit this is lore chat lmao
vapid tusk
Torb loving his turrets more than brig makes people think rein is her dad 💀
tbf torb and brig look nothing alike
peak escarp
but she doesn't look like Reinhardt either
past copper
So, with Hanamura returning as the expanded map, Hanaoka, I think that’s a great sign that we could see our other beloved assault maps returning too
Temple of Anubis, Volskaya Industries, Horizon Lunar Colony, and Paris
All hopefully expanded from what they used to be
lavish vessel
Volskaya is one of my faves, really hope to see more of it in the future
past copper
We potentially can. Old assault maps were little more than a straight line
Now, in OW2, they have the means to expand these maps beyond that and even show off more of their unique beauty
twilit patrol
Hanamura was the only 2CP map I liked
lavish vessel
Now, in OW2, they have the means to expand these maps beyond that and even show ...
Yeah true, would also be really cool to see them used in pve
fierce raft
and brugerete (daughter) likes maces
niece you mean
past copper
Hanamura was always a favorite map. Glad to see it returning and expanded from what it was before
It would probably play a part in the story. Specifically in the upcoming book
wild sorrel
TRIPLE
hushed jetty
So, with Hanamura returning as the expanded map, Hanaoka, I think that’s a great...
i hope so, i liked paris
golden oak
Too bad the clash mode is like some weird combination of push and flashpoint
wooden sleet
When does that book come put?
golden oak
Who knows it was announced ages ago
spare fox
March 2024 but almost every OW book gets delayed at least once after announcement
zealous pumice
Please don't bring back Horizon
Give us a unique Mars Base map to go with Space Ranger
wooden sleet
Not gonna lie doesn't it feel a bit to early to already be adding Mars when we have barely explored the earth in the OW universe
hushed jetty
its not like there wont be a billion other heroes from earth
and i wouldnt say "barely"
past copper
March 2024 but almost every OW book gets delayed at least once after announcemen...
It will be March. It was already delayed from October
spare fox
If it's not delayed again
past copper
Too bad the clash mode is like some weird combination of push and flashpoint
Nothing wrong with a new mode. That just means maps can be new and unique to play
past copper
If it's not delayed again
They won’t. Literally no reason to do that. A whole year will have gone by since the book was announced
Plenty of time to write it. Although, it’s probably more of thing to read it for any errors in the book, printing a number of languages, and printing a large number of copies to sell globally. That’s going to take a long time
spare fox
They won’t. Literally no reason to do that. A whole year will have gone by since...
It might. Declassified was delayed 2 years. It might come out March but it very well might be delayed. With Blizz/OW books they're prone to multiple delays for some reason
past copper
Please don't bring back Horizon
Horizon isn’t bad if they expand on the base
We didn’t even see half the size of the base when it was a map. So plenty to expand the map on
They could easily make the map nearly as big as the whole base
crimson snow
Flashpoint Horizon Lunar Colony?
peak escarp
that would be good
past copper
Hmm. Maybe
Wouldn’t be a bad idea for a FPM
And probably get more lore on what the apes are doing now
hushed jetty
certainly big enough but theyd have to make ot more interesting bc that ish is a crater
past copper
There’s literally points A - G
It’s big enough to be a flashpoint map
And expanding it would be better than what they tested in season 4
Plus, imagine one of the points (probably point D) is out in zero G
Also, putting this out there
Space Ranger would probably have to land on Horizon to refuel before they can return to Earth
Mars is a long trip after all and they haven’t exactly specified how we’ve advanced and accomplished space travel in OW
spare fox
They touched on it briefly in Declassified in that specifically launches into space are much easier, due to Dr. De Kuiper's advances in gravity study iirc
dense nebula
Wait if those are all heroes we know
Who is the hell is the Jetpack guy in Pharah’s part?
golden oak
Yes but I hate how similar it is to flashpoint and push because I hate those modes
past copper
I mean, it’s not like they could keep making escort maps exclusively
And if they were going to make bigger maps, they had to do something with that size
Besides, the way they explained Hanaoka, seems a little complicated
It probably makes more sense to just make a flashpoint map
Kinda hoping they let the public play test before release. If it can work for Mauga, it can work for a map
golden oak
I mean it’s cool those maps are coming back but I’m just worried they’re gonna be not fun to play (like push and flashpoint)
But tbh if they’re planning to rework old 2cp maps this might mean we’re not gonna get entirely new locations for a while
Since they always release a new mode with at least 2 maps
I wonder if flashpoint was made because they wanted to make something new or realised push is garbage
hushed jetty
nothing wrong with push imo idk why people hate on it
twilit patrol
I mean it’s cool those maps are coming back but I’m just worried they’re gonna b...
Flashpoint is an excellent game mode
Just needs to make some changes and it's good
(Yes I know this has nothing to do with lore)
golden oak
Flashpoint is an excellent game mode
Said no one lol
twilit patrol
And I did
golden oak
Yeah so no one
past copper
I like flashpoint. Gives me the chance to explore a map and have more than 1-2 chances to lose a match
It’s a win win to me
twilit patrol
Crazy how players hates this mode
past copper
I don’t even really care bout the game mode. I just love the time and detail that went into the maps
Not to mention the story each one tells
leaden galleon
nothing wrong with push imo idk why people hate on it
My biggest gripe with Push is that the two sides of the map are mirrored, they don't tell a story in the way that all the other modes do
And by story I mean parts of the map feel and look different as the game progresses
Like with Dorado, you're in a quaint Mexican town until you find yourself in Lumerico's giant pyramid building
Runasapi being a Push map has me worried that it won't tell us much about Peru in the OW world or Illari, but we'll see
twilit patrol
Oh yeah
Next map is probably an Push one
We've seen it during the BlizzCon I think
golden oak
Already forgot about it
leaden galleon
I think they'll do a Clash map before Runasapi
golden oak
My problem with push is
- too much walking
- early fights matter the most because whoever takes the lead first has a higher chance of winning
- you have to put a lot more effort to get lead than let’s say to claim a point on a control map
- when you’re pushing the robot but not the barricade, that’s empty progress, unlike other modes where controlling objective = making progress
And worst part is when enemy has a lot of lead, you have a potato team so you know you’re not winning that (because it would take multiple team wipes to gain lead) but you’re forced to play for another like 7 minutes or so
golden oak
And worst part is when enemy has a lot of lead, you have a potato team so you kn...
At this point I’d rather have a “surrender” button than waste those minutes for nothing
twilit patrol
Yeah
I don't know how they can improve that mode but I'm really sure they can improve Flashpoint
(The name of this game mode reminds me Justice League Flashpoint Paradox)
spare fox
Me I'm the least thrilled about Flashpoint and the new mode Clash sounds like "Flashpoint but in a straight line like Push" which is my second least fav mode so I'm not hyped at all for it
vapid tusk
i feel like the ranting part couldve went to #overwatch-serious
spare fox
With Venture being an archeologist, are there any more maps that aren't tied to lore anymore?
Being an archeologist, they're now tied to Illios, Petra, and Ayuthattya as well as others probably
past copper
I mean, the world is huge. There’s probably more than just those places
Plus, given how two of them appear to be, I don’t think they have much archeological value anymore. Even for a new hero
I’m pretty sure the map with most possible association has to be Petra as it’s still being dug up
spare fox
No I mean are there any more already-existing maps that don't have ties to the story (yet)?
For the longest time Illios was kind of an outlier story-wise
Petra kind of too, though it was kinda-sorta tied with the archeology to Illios so that was something
past copper
Apparently Talon once tried to pilfer artifacts from Ilios ruins. So there’s some lore to that, but not much
spare fox
Oh yeah Colosseo is another one
hushed jetty
lijang will be getting lore with space ranger i imagine
spare fox
Oh yeah and Midtown
hushed jetty
i guess blizzard world? we saw some characters going there but it just kinda Exists
peak escarp
yeah
past copper
No, lijang obvi getting lore with Hammond in the upcoming book I believe
hushed jetty
they didnt even go the there they just watched an ad abt it
peak escarp
Oasis is pretty isolated
hushed jetty
oasis has moira though
peak escarp
and if you want to count obsolete maps, Paris
hushed jetty
isnt there a paris mission at some point
spare fox
Oasis also had a flagged mention in Declassified specifically in relation to their security tower and methods
peak escarp
isnt there a paris mission at some point
no
peak escarp
that was a hero mission
hushed jetty
damn 😭
past copper
I don’t know for sure about Paris getting any PvE
Especially since that was already dealt with in Zero Hour
Things to consider
Numbani, Junker Town/NJC, Lijing Tower, Kanezaka (possibly Hanamura or Hanaoka)
hushed jetty
is that not the horizon logo
past copper
Not sure bout Ashe n B.O.B., Jack n Sombra, n Ana’s locations
peak escarp
the maps with no ties to any hero are Circuit Royal, Blizzard World, Hollywood, Midtown, Ilios, Colosseo and Esperanca
hushed jetty
i was gonna point out max for circuit royal but he isnt a "hero"
past copper
I vaguely recall something about Circus Junkrat being connected to Monte Carlo n Mei having visited Hollywood before joining up with Winston
Vaguely
spare fox
No but there was speculation that year about the 3 epic skins being related to monte carlo - circus, racing, and casino, but imo it's mildly grasping at straws
peak escarp
yeah that was the theme for those three
spare fox
So that's probably what they're remembering
I definitely don't miss that era of OW. I'm so glad it's in the past
past copper
Something I’d like to see right now is another updated world map with each location
Seems people stopped making em at some point
peak escarp
this is still my favourite world map of Overwatch maps
past copper
Wouldn’t be hard to pin down where the next upcoming map is. Same location as Hanamura n Kanezaka
gilded ravine
did the community ever figure out what happened to blue hoodie kid?
fresh rock
From the trailer?
peak escarp
what do you mean what happened to him?
his name is Brian
he was just a kid visiting the museum
keen summit
did the community ever figure out what happened to blue hoodie kid?
hes a kid, probs in school.
hes probs learning bout idk math
spare fox
He's training to be the next doomfist
jagged mortar
He's training to be the next doomfist
that would be awesome if it was true
grand stream
He will join overwatch
(Probabbly)
Brian will become the blue overwatch soldiers we see from the same cinematic as his hoodie is also blue and he may be influenced by the overwatch heros that saved him and his brother.
Or he wants to join talon
opaque scroll
hes just a throwaway side character
grand stream
Anyone still waiting for the overwatch character that's in a hazmat suit?
ruby ridge
Blue hoodie kid isn’t important
And the doomfist is a African cultural stuff so I doubt it’s go to white blond boy
worthy rose
Back onto zen possibly getting one of those omnic devices on his head(I scrolled up super far), I feel like his mind would partially resist, making two different versions of him. Maybe the device works like a virus
leaden galleon
hes just a throwaway side character
Yeah this, I’m not sure why people still want to talk about him
spare fox
And the doomfist is a African cultural stuff so I doubt it’s go to white blond b...
It was just a joke
golden oak
Back onto zen possibly getting one of those omnic devices on his head(I scrolled...
Idk if that’s the case when talon is after him
Also I’m wondering if Ram asked talon to kidnap him or did talon decided to kidnap zen to blackmail ram into serving them
opaque tundra
I feel like if Ram wanted to meet up with Zen or kidnap him, he’d come in person. I’m sure he’d be welcome if the Shambali recognized him (maybe? We don’t know if they’re on good terms or not)
spare fox
I think perhaps Talon might want him as leverage against Ramattra, unless there's something else about Zen we don't know about yet
peak escarp
I don't think it would be safe for Ramattra to go in person
he did just broadcast his face and voice and attack several major cities
golden oak
@peak escarp what do you think is talon’s reason for kidnapping zen
Both reasons seem plausible for me
peak escarp
I think Ramattra sent them to find Zenyatta and take him "for protection"
I don't think Talon would even know to go after him unless Ramattra told them about him
golden oak
I don't think Talon would even know to go after him unless Ramattra told them ab...
Yeah but Sombra exists, she knows how to get information about everyone
They could’ve ordered her to find something (or someone) that would help with manipulating ramattra
peak escarp
eh
soft bear
my bets are on zen being some kind of leverage
Talon has already been shown working against Null Sector, so them wanting some kind of insurance against retaliation if Ramattra were to find out makes a lot of sense
And for all we know it could be relatively public knowledge that Ramattra used to stay at Shambali and has ties to Zenyatta
My prediction for the wider story moving forward is that Talon holding zen ends up being what alerts Ramattra to the fact that Talon are actively betraying him. Moving even further into speculation territory, perhaps that arc concludes with Null Sector becoming too much for even Doomfist's plans and Talon and Overwatch end up working together in some capacity to take them down
I would also consider it a possibility that Talon are grabbing Zen to offer as some sort of gift or favor to Ramattra if it wasn't for the fact that Doomfist is too smart to do something like that
golden oak
They wanna manipulate Ram by holding zen hostage
soft bear
Yeah, it's probably something along those lines
Boss Ramattra around a little, nudge him in certain directions
peak escarp
I don't think Ramattra being part of the Shambali would be public knowledge
or his relationship with Zenyatta
the Shambali are pretty off the grid, so even Sombra probably couldn't get that info easily
and Doomfist wouldnt need to resort to kidnapping to have leverage over Ramattra
he could just have Sombra hack him or take control of the Null Sector drones
opaque tundra
Watch it be a third reason literally no one predicted that somehow works
peak escarp
probably
spare fox
Watch it be a third reason literally no one predicted that somehow works
if it's that, it probably has something to do with what Zenyatta did before the Awakening or joining the Shambali and why he's so evasive about answering that question
soft bear
he could just have Sombra hack him or take control of the Null Sector drones
it was shown that null sector at the very least has "challenging" security for sombra to crack in the mauga short, but who knows
proud ore
space ranger lore when?
peak escarp
2024
zealous knoll
I like how each new character just gets crazier than the last by origin
cyborg soldier, naruto, terminator human racist omnic, guy who summon a tree, super soldier powered by the sun, tf2 heavy going on bulk and cybernetics
soft bear
Genetically engineered super intelligent hamster from the moon that crashed in australia and anonymously fought gladiator matches in his DYI giant ball mech
golden oak
Characters who control spirits still don’t fit
Though I guess the “no magic” rule was dropped after kiri since they didn’t have good explanations for shimadas anyways
twilit patrol
Illari it’s like she came out from nowhere
fresh rock
Because she did.
past copper
Not gone lie, Blizz missed the perfect opportunity to give Orisa a new NS skin
Oh well. They probably just didn’t wanna give an old robot a new Null Sector skin
gilded ravine
Characters who control spirits still don’t fit
characters who control spirits do fit. reaper used to collect them. it makes sense that if one character can collect one character could control.
hushed jetty
ok but was the "soul" thing ever actually canon for reaper
gilded ravine
fair point.
i dont believe the realm of spirits is out of touch for overwatch. referencing Kiriko and her foxes, constant talk of ressurection between the characters, and zenyatta's opinion on the iris. i honestly dont -believe- its too far fetched.
vapid tusk
I feel like the whole omnic sentience could be considered magic as well
gilded ravine
yeah. there's a really thin line between moira and zenyatta.
vapid tusk
How is moira tied to what I said lol
gilded ravine
think of how complicated the story line has actually been thus far; and compare the complicated ultimates that have come out.
vapid tusk
Moira uses technology
gilded ravine
and zenyatta is considered "magical"
by anyone who is not an omnic.
moira uses science and questionable methods to serve her purpose.
discord & harmoy orbs.
same same/ different
vapid tusk
Zen orbs aren’t canon though
gilded ravine
but the forces through which zenyatta speaks from his experiences, are.
"The world is full of magic things, patiently waiting for us to open the door..." - Moira
vapid tusk
by anyone who is not an omnic.
The only reference I can think of is the mercy voiceline interaction
vapid tusk
"The world is full of magic things, patiently waiting for us to open the door......
I’ve never heard this one b4
Is it new
vapid tusk
how does that refer to zen
gilded ravine
because it doesnt have to be magic for people to think its magic
zen is a floating robot. do we think its magic or do we think its omnic tech? at first glance, you wouldn't know the difference because it LOOKS the same.
levitation technology AND flight appear in the same universe hand in hand.
so like moira ( hand in hand ), you have growth and you have decay. or like zen, you have harmony or discord.
in the world of overwatch something can appear magical but be entirely technological, the same applies for spirituality.
Zenyatta is an actual analogue for spiritual enlightment. But he's just a floating robot. 🤷
vapid tusk
I think I vaguely understand some parts of your point but it still doesn’t justify the reasoning the officials gave for said spiritual stuff
gilded ravine
also. reaper is a guy who was brought back to life by moira. and used to collect souls. so. thats spiritual. he's a wraith.
his name is REAPER
like grim reaper.
gilded ravine
hold up.
imma check lore and canon. because
if reaper didnt die and wasnt brought back to life than his name being reaper doesnt make sense.
vapid tusk
If mercy’s “resurrect” ability isn’t canon, then I think it’s safe to assume that no form of resurrection exists in ow
vapid tusk
Yeah
gilded ravine
okay. lemme just ask a question to clarify the context of this discussion.
Are we trying to establish (or argue) reasonable grounds for "spiritualistic" abilities in future or CURRENT overwatch characters?
parameters, context, backgound info, etc. w/e
vapid tusk
I mean I personally don’t have a specific stance
gilded ravine
If you were just trying to correct me on lore, it would have been better to point me to certain resources to read for myself. idk, i thought this was a debate.
nvm. carry on.
☮️
vapid tusk
But the argument/complaint seems to be that blizzard seems to be contradicting its unspoken rule of “no magic” by introducing Kiriko as well as the lack of explanation on the ahumadas
*Shadas
*SHIMADAS
gilded ravine
see and even that i disagree with because that's completely blizzards's course of actions
with each and every dec cycle for their projects. top down, its a cross reference in games of things they cant do in OTHER games.
they shuffle their hand every 3-4 months to remind you that other games they work on, exist.
they're going to get as close to they can get to something; without calling it the "something" we all -know- it is.
because they save all the "magic" for diablo, hearthstone, wow and games -similar-.
vapid tusk
they're going to get as close to they can get to something; without calling it t...
And this is what ppl are mad about
gilded ravine
why though? just get better at it.
idk. we have a million and a half creators, gamers, designers, etc etc etc. who play these games, and do projects in their own time that are sometimes BETTER than what activision has produced.
So. if everyone is so tired of activision blizzard, light a fire under their ass by not buying into their work.
vapid tusk
I guess it’s the lack of concrete-ness
gilded ravine
no, its the lack of give a fuck.
people say "well i could run blizzard if i wanted to." but when you challenge em to rise they fall like stacks of bricks in a hurricane. so. idgaf. if someone put me in that position; i would be a quick fuckin study. 🤷
peak escarp
technically Kiriko's abilities aren't magic
vapid tusk
Like I said I’m providing the stance of the frustrated people based on what I’ve heard and seen
peak escarp
they're spirit
vapid tusk
Not my own
vapid tusk
Then why use “technically”
peak escarp
because technically spirit and magic are different
but practically, they are the same
vapid tusk
I just realized they used Kiriko and Genji for mischief and MAGIC lol
Coincidence or not, i think that’s pretty funny considering the topic of the conversation
peak escarp
a lot of people get the lore wrong too, so when they complain about the lore not making sense it's something they've made up themselves
like Cassidy somehow being over 100 years old
vapid tusk
What
peak escarp
because the Deadlock Rebels tattoo he had had "circa 1976" on it, people assumed that's the date the gang was founded, and since Cassidy was one of the founders, he must be over 100 years old
but any idiot can slap a date on something
it doesn't mean the gang has been around for 100 years
vapid tusk
I hear a very common misconception too but it’s not related to lore
And this isn’t either but my teacher is playing “Perfect Night” in class lol
peak escarp
lol
vapid tusk
Who’s your fav character outside of the playable cast
peak escarp
Maximilien
I think he's really interesting, and I look forward to seeing his part in the story
vapid tusk
I really like the deaf girl in the kiriko cinematic
memes aside, as someone who's partially deaf, she easily won my heart
peak escarp
her name is Akari
I appreciate the fact that the animation team actually did their research and used JSL rather than just be lazy and use ASL
past copper
A lot of animation in shows these days actually get help from people with disabilities and I find that to be amazing for including them
Ever watch The Dragon Prince? They did General Amiya beautifully
keen summit
because the Deadlock Rebels tattoo he had had "circa 1976" on it, people assumed...
Ueah he probs had it cuz he thought its cool, like how some kids have jackets with like 1980 on it etc
peak escarp
the Deadlock Rebels novel explains the date
Ashe finds an old motorcycle from 1976, which she is restoring throughout the novel
keen summit
Ah tell me, more info the better
peak escarp
when Cassidy makes the logo, he puts 1976 as the founding date in tribute to that bike
golden oak
Also doesn’t make sense how only Japanese people can control spirits
keen summit
Also doesn’t make sense how only Japanese people can control spirits
It wouldve beenbso much better if it was like pattented tech or sum
Like "only the shimadas csn control the dragons" cuz it was like stolen tech they patented afterwards
hushed jetty
i guess the japanese are just built different in the overwatch universe
hushed jetty
actually to be fair- no i was gonna say something stupid
do we know if the Yokai have actual spirits like kiriko
peak escarp
nope
hushed jetty
fuck
peak escarp
I've seen some people assume they do
hushed jetty
i was gonna say that if they do, then they have omnic members which would imply its not just a japanese thing
hushed jetty
idk what the hell is going on with the iris
bro is just sitting in the monastery
like it just Appeared
peak escarp
Aurora expanded and became the Iris
hushed jetty
i know that but also thats still super weird
keen summit
Its just more like we got no clue what it is
hushed jetty
like aurora dies, goes to omnic nirvana or something, and suddenly there's an Anomaly in the shambali mountains
keen summit
I assumed it was a type if virus program but that wouldnt explain it being physical
hushed jetty
i hope we get some info on it with the suravasa mission
keen summit
Even with bastion, it seems basocally auroras thing works as an antivirus too
golden oak
we just haven't seen anyone else do it
Yeah but so far spirit control was only represented by Japanese people
And we have all of them in the roster
I’d say if we were to have people who control spirits from other countries then we would have them in the roster or at least shown in lore
I think Japanese being the only ones with spirits is meant to represent how important traditions are to them
keen summit
I hope the hashimoto leader is like a tech obsessed person
Would fit the themes so far
Hanzo is tradition, kiri and genji are a mix of tradition and technology, then i want the hashimoto leader to ne very untraditional, be a technology type of perskn
golden oak
Btw, isn’t that the Hashimoto symbol in this kanezaka club
golden oak
Why they have some spooky music playing there
dark cliff
Can anyone who got Inti warrior training get Solar threading augmentation?
keen summit
Can anyone who got Inti warrior training get Solar threading augmentation?
We dont know
Not like we cab compare illari
merry mason
Can anyone who got Inti warrior training get Solar threading augmentation?
im pretty sure the point of the training is to prepare you for the augmentation