I doubt max will get added
#lore-discussion
dreamy onyx
I wish they put mauga as some brainwashed guy like sigma
Picking up random wounded soldiers augmenting them
Then brainwashing them for their cause
Because why would some random group of doctors fix up a random soldier? And the fact mauga choked that guys neck
dreamy onyx
Kinda same thing
talon found mauga and just said yeah, he’s definitely a loyal guy we will make him our soldier
he’s crazy as fuck he just kills people to kill
fresh rock
We'll figure out more soon
dreamy onyx
yeah I hope so
was there anything connected to Illaris backstory?
like any lore any heroes because I really don’t understand
vapid tusk
talon found mauga and just said yeah, he’s definitely a loyal guy we will make h...
i dont think they recruited him for his loyalty
dreamy onyx
I’m being sarcastic
clear nest
I hate that dumbass french twink
oh ur real
twilit patrol
I doubt max will get added
It would be a waste
He is a non combatant
I know he's french but why ''french twink'' ?
twilit patrol
worn latch
I hate him
twilit patrol
I think we understood it
worn latch
I hope he gets murdered in pve
clear nest
I hate him
stupid ass haircut
worn latch
stupid ass haircut
Ong
woven jewel
Businessman
twilit patrol
I hope he gets murdered in pve
We get it
worn latch
twilit patrol
You hate him ok
worn latch
You don't get it
clear nest
hating isnt allowed anymore
twilit patrol
Explain so?
worn latch
I need to tear him limb from limb
worn latch
hating isnt allowed anymore
Aw man
twilit patrol
Do I really need to know it?
I mean
I know u hate him you've said that already
twice
nova heart
Maximilien is just vibin though
twilit patrol
Erm don't reply then
I didn't want to say that mb
But we know you hate him
You've said it twice
And I doubt that he would be a hero
dense nebula
just point him at a target and let him go crazy
And unlike Sigma, he know full well not to hurt you, but will still do it anyways for shits and giggles
dreamy onyx
I feel like overwatch should stop making new heroes and focus on lore
spare fox
well bad news, because they're doing the opposite lol
dreamy onyx
We can have a few more but we don’t need 50
dreamy onyx
well bad news, because they're doing the opposite lol
Smh
We already know what the lore is
Robots and bad guys working together and good guys fighting
Simple as that
I feel like the lore has barely progressed since the release of the game ngl
hushed jetty
I feel like overwatch should stop making new heroes and focus on lore
can't really do that bc pvp is still a huge part of the game
dare i say Most of the game
golden oak
Wouldn’t expect moira to have a good taste in food
hushed jetty
i guess she be cookin
spare fox
She's like the food critic from Ratatouille: She's skinny because she doesn't swallow food unless she loves it.
Def in character for her
spare fox
He's with the faeries
He never set out to do anything evil and as far as we know he's just being used
golden oak
He's with the faeries
Me and my girlies we gon party til it’s early 🧚♀️ ✨
spare fox
Feelin otherworldly
peak escarp
Wouldn’t expect moira to have a good taste in food
the cookbook said she enjoyed baking because it's basically chemistry
spare fox
They really like to lean into the enjoying chemistry = great cook thing huh
my chem major friend can't cook for shit tho she likes to fancy herself an amazing home cook
golden oak
I mean the knowledge helps, but cooking is an art
hushed jetty
whats the overall alignment for mauga
prob chaotic evil ngl
he hurts people bc he feels like it and enjoys it
i guess one could also argue neutral evil bc baptiste was able to calm him but idk
wild jacinth
we need another talon healer
light grail
Yea
Not just a talon healer, we need a Junkertown healerr
Then there's an excuse to use all the Junkers
hushed jetty
i mean baptiste, if you travel back in time a bit
hushed jetty
not as a junker as a talon healer
light grail
I meant I was talking about need a new Junkertown healer
I know that Bap used to be Talon
hushed jetty
i was talking to the other guy mb
cunning burrow
we need an all junker team
ana isnt a junker but she has been to junkertown a few times, if that counts
vernal seal
ana isnt a junker but she has been to junkertown a few times, if that counts
ehhh kinda a stretch
cunning burrow
ehhh kinda a stretch
best we have for now
wild jacinth
I completely agree with the idea for a junkertown healer
jagged mortar
I would be fine with it but imo 3 junker characters is enough
Somewhere else where they haven't brought a hero from yet would be cool
hushed jetty
well venture is an archaeologists and seems to be connected with the company on maps like uhhhhhhh petra
and space ranger is from. mars.
jagged mortar
and space ranger is from. mars.
Thats still wierd to me, she must have a place of origin on earth
vernal seal
not gonna happen for a while it seems since they have the next three heros planned out already
the next tank can't be another junker lol
wild jacinth
So mauga is still with talon right?
hushed jetty
yeah
twilit patrol
He is
hushed jetty
what up lore chat do we have a source on this being his actual last name
bc i have no idea where the wiki got that from and i wanna know
worthy rose
What pronouns does the new tank go by??
merry mason
If you mean mauga it’s he
worthy rose
Oh okay cool
dense nebula
What pronouns does the new tank go by??
Of all the lore questions you could ask surrounding Mauga
You choose that as your first one?
dense nebula
what up lore chat do we have a source on this being his actual last name
Also where did you find that?
Do you have the full thing?
worthy rose
Because I wanted to lil bro
worthy rose
You choose that as your first one?
Don’t make me take you to grapital city
worthy rose
😂😂
rare trail
I would be fine with it but imo 3 junker characters is enough
4 heroes
wrecking ball junker queen junkrat roadhog
jagged mortar
oh right forgot about wrecking ball
peak escarp
what up lore chat do we have a source on this being his actual last name
as far as I know his full name hasn't been revealed
google search tells me this comes from an OC version of Mauga from 2019
wild jacinth
Pretty sure wrecking ball isn't considered a junker anymore tho
Like
Ino he was the champion anol
But I'm pretty sure he isn't properly a junker
rare trail
hes gonna be in the new short story with the other junkers
rare trail
yeah thats the next set of pve iirc?
wild jacinth
Thats so cool
potent briar
Okay so I have a question is there gonna be talon mission?
Talon, Vishkar, and some other villainous faction besides Null Sector that I don't remember all show up in the Intel thing on Missions so
wild jacinth
Talon missions will be so fun with mauga getting added anol
hushed jetty
google search tells me this comes from an OC version of Mauga from 2019
😭 of course it does
peak escarp
looking at the wiki edits, it seems one user is desperate to inject their OC's name
the same user has added it several times, and the admins have removed it several times
potent briar
the same user has added it several times, and the admins have removed it several...
Bruh 🤦
golden oak
That’s so weird
hushed jetty
lmao? thats so peculiar. like why
golden oak
Maybe they wanna advertise themself or something
hushed jetty
you cannot advertise yourswlf with A Last Name 😭
golden oak
I’m trynna deduct their logic 😭
potent briar
I’m trynna deduct their logic 😭
There’s no logic to deduct that shit just simply isn't there
potent briar
when is there gonna be more pve missions?
They have been practically radio silent on PvE since then
dreamy onyx
They have been practically radio silent on PvE since then
Damn
potent briar
At least I haven’t heard anything
dreamy onyx
Ow2 releasing 3 missions every year 😭
golden oak
when is there gonna be more pve missions?
Next year but we don’t know when exactly
dreamy onyx
Disappointing
potent briar
Ow2 releasing 3 missions every year 😭
They're going with the D2 route ig
golden oak
I’m guessing around the same time maybe? So summer
potent briar
I’m guessing around the same time maybe? So summer
Mf
I'm so sick of blizzard man 😭
potent briar
I just wanna see Lifeweaver in pve for uhhh reasons
dreamy onyx
I need to see playable talon missions
golden oak
I just wanna see Lifeweaver in pve for uhhh reasons
That depends if he’s gonna join overwatch
dreamy onyx
instead of “good guys destroying bad guys” lore feels so bad atm
golden oak
I need to see playable talon missions
I think they said there will be
potent briar
I can see it
potent briar
There's barely anything in it besides the origin story
rare trail
she isnt connected to overwatch
dreamy onyx
☠️
potent briar
^^
dreamy onyx
So basically she wasn’t needed
rare trail
yeah
potent briar
She is a recent addition
dreamy onyx
Smfh
rare trail
she expanded the lore ig and gave us info on the inti warriors though
wild jacinth
But like was that needed?
dreamy onyx
But like was that needed?
NOPE
potent briar
Not by a lot. We got info on a new faction only to be told they got Hiroshima'd by a teenager.
hushed jetty
nothing is "needed" but we know how peru's doing in lore jow which is cool
dreamy onyx
They need to focus on lore instead of heroes cause idfk how this lore is gonna turn out
with all these “backstories”
rare trail
techinically she gave us more lore than mauga
wild jacinth
I'd just prefer we got characters from the comic that we already now rather than some randoms that no one cares about
hushed jetty
techinically she gave us more lore than mauga
😭 lowkey true
dreamy onyx
techinically she gave us more lore than mauga
Mauga basically “crazy big guy killing”
rare trail
like her origin told us about the inti warriors and peru and maugas just kinda told us what we already now
wild jacinth
I am so happy mauga got added tho
hushed jetty
mauga's origin story is cool and all but lord is it SO vague
potent briar
I definitely would want more characters already in the lote
Mauga was a great addition
dreamy onyx
Doomfist basically “op black guy who thinks he’s doing something to help average villian guy”
wild jacinth
I take it talon where the ones that augmented him?
potent briar
And he’s hot so-
wild jacinth
Or do we not know?
potent briar
I take it talon where the ones that augmented him?
Probably
rare trail
the tank heroes have been really good lately
dreamy onyx
I take it talon where the ones that augmented him?
nope some random ass group he choked em
rare trail
yeah
hushed jetty
mauga's origin story is cool and all but lord is it SO vague
like who were those people he was working with, who were the doctors that saved him (talon, presumably?)
rare trail
i guess so?
potent briar
Imagine Moira had something to do with it
potent briar
Knowing her she would love to jam a second heart in a mf
dreamy onyx
Knowing her she would love to jam a second heart in a mf
wait mauga has two hearts?
hushed jetty
why would talon recruit mauga after doing that 💀
well wtf else is he supposed to do 💀 they just slapped a second heart in him
rare trail
one cybernetic
potent briar
wait mauga has two hearts?
Ye
wild jacinth
He says it in a fired up line
rare trail
he says "both hearts pumping" iirc
wild jacinth
Yea
dreamy onyx
well wtf else is he supposed to do 💀 they just slapped a second heart in him
so they just augment random soldiers and he chokes the people who saved them
dreamy onyx
and yeah everything’s alright
rare trail
he probably wouldve been dead if they didnt give him a second heart
dreamy onyx
he blew up
he was apart of talon first or no?
potent briar
There’s an Ashe voiceline that plays when killing Mauga that says something like "Two hearts but no brains."
hushed jetty
i imagine maybe talon was lurking around the area genji style to pick up someone to test their weird heart thing on
wild jacinth
Random thought but does mauga have prosthetic legs?
hushed jetty
he was apart of talon first or no?
we dont know
dreamy onyx
Random thought but does mauga have prosthetic legs?
think so yeah
potent briar
Random thought but does mauga have prosthetic legs?
I don't think so
hushed jetty
its kinda hard to tell but i think those are pants
hushed jetty
i wanna know wtf the things on his arms are though
he got them during the operation
dreamy onyx
they should give mauga a talon skin next season
wild jacinth
They HAVE too
hushed jetty
ofc
wild jacinth
That and the hawaiian shirt skin are a must
wild jacinth
Good
hushed jetty
i NEED baptiste to have a line for if mauga is wearing that stupid ass shirt
dreamy onyx
I’m not sure though because invasion season was supposed to be the “lore” season I guess
rare trail
does bap have like a vacation skin?
golden oak
they should give mauga a talon skin next season
Maybe bp Skin
dreamy onyx
does bap have like a vacation skin?
yea
hushed jetty
does bap have like a vacation skin?
yes, "tropical"
rare trail
hushed jetty
i imagine his talon skin would be a default legendary/epic and then a tropical skin would be in the bp
rare trail
dreamy onyx
interesting how they didn’t show mauga being robotic or augmented we just assumed he was on steroids
hushed jetty
well he prob is
wild jacinth
real question is why did they decide to make him shirtless in game but in thr origin he has a black t shirt ??
hushed jetty
on steroids that is
golden oak
Mauga: we look like a couple here
Bap: a couple of besties 😅
wild jacinth
Gotta know what drink mauga is slipping on all the time lmao
dreamy onyx
ok all lore stuff aside I NEED to see Reinhardt and mauga arm wrestle
golden oak
real question is why did they decide to make him shirtless in game but in thr or...
You know damn well why
wild jacinth
All im saying
I think he looks better with the shirt on
Shirtless is still good
But
peak escarp
to show off his tattoos
hushed jetty
real question is why did they decide to make him shirtless in game but in thr or...
- he's hot 2) prob so they didnt have to draw all his tats
golden oak
They have this in his intro video
hushed jetty
and that
dreamy onyx
1) he's hot 2) prob so they didnt have to draw all his tats
he’s hot?? he’s so damn wide
they should’ve made his arms bigger like why is his torse so big
we didn’t see that when he was with baptiste
wild jacinth
I think its funny how disproportionate his head is
hushed jetty
well tbf that art is like 5 years old
dreamy onyx
I think its funny how disproportionate his head is
he’s built like the hulk
but shorter
wild jacinth
Been waiting for him for 5 years
potent briar
Mauga: we look like a couple here
Bap: a couple of besties 😅
They were definitely fucking at one point
wild jacinth
AND
dreamy onyx
fun fact in maugas room in samoa there’s a picture of zarya
wild jacinth
he got revealed on my b day
hushed jetty
They were definitely fucking at one point
whoa there lets calm down 😭😭😭
peak escarp
keep it PG
dreamy onyx
They were definitely fucking at one point
I would not want to imagine that
potent briar
My bad
golden oak
They have this in his intro video
Still can’t comprehend how boobily wobbly this guy is
hushed jetty
tbh i cant wait until his page on the official ow website comes out. it'll prpb elaborate on his origin story a bit
wild jacinth
still can't believe they were gonna give sigma abilities to that guy
I can't even think of it
dreamy onyx
Still can’t comprehend how boobily wobbly this guy is
They need to change his hitbox or give him a skin cause wtf☠️☠️
dreamy onyx
still can't believe they were gonna give sigma abilities to that guy
imagine a big ass samoan guy harnessing the power of gravity
hushed jetty
hr wouldnt have had gravity powers
but the shield and rock throw were originally his
wild jacinth
Him throwing a rock would have been hilarious
golden oak
Is he the hulk or smth
He is
hushed jetty
have you SEEN him. his guns are tracer sized. im sure mauga throwing a rock is not difficult
dreamy onyx
Him throwing a rock would have been hilarious
Lmao
golden oak
imagine a big ass samoan guy harnessing the power of gravity
The gravity stuff was supposed to be tech
dreamy onyx
The gravity stuff was supposed to be tech
would’ve been funny to see tho
hushed jetty
he better have a cosmetic of some manner that references how he got replaced by sigma
golden oak
Idk if ult was gonna be the same but the grasp was probably just some gun/device that eats projectiles
wild jacinth
Nah he just eats them
hushed jetty
ghostbusters vacuum
dreamy onyx
mauga def gonna have a ult change
dreamy onyx
he’s early released
wild jacinth
The ult could maybe be changed
golden oak
Although both flux and mauga ult, trap enemies for some time
dreamy onyx
How tf does mauga have to find clothes💀
hushed jetty
he better have a cosmetic of some manner that references how he got replaced by ...
like maybe a voice line where he mockingly goes "the universe sings for me"
dreamy onyx
He’s so wide
wild jacinth
if u trapped a sigma in cage fight he says sing for me doctor
Or sumthing like that
dreamy onyx
I wish blizzard had more shown on augmented people especially civilians
golden oak
My favourite line is Winston/Hammond trapped
dreamy onyx
cause it’s only on talon members and on military
dreamy onyx
My favourite line is Winston/Hammond trapped
winston rage ult would eat mauga up
2 big ass guys duking it out
golden oak
I wish blizzard had more shown on augmented people especially civilians
Toronto barista, martins
Pretty sure there’s few more
dreamy onyx
imagine mauga sized people walking around like civilians
golden oak
A lot of people have cybernetic prosthetics
dense nebula
I think he meant genetically augmented
Like how Mauga turned into a fucking mountain when he was just a little molehill before
golden oak
Oh, I’d assume it’s not available for regular people
dreamy onyx
isn’t Winston augmented too?
golden oak
They’re terrorists
dreamy onyx
I genuinely wanna know what they look without armor
golden oak
Not legitimate soldiers
dreamy onyx
are they robots?
golden oak
No, talon goons are human pretty sure
dreamy onyx
wouldn’t be surprised if null sector had omnic members working for them
hushed jetty
maximilen
dreamy onyx
No, talon goons are human pretty sure
I wanna see null sector fighting talon cause of some bs like “humans must die”
talon and overwatch would team up temporarily to fight the big bad guys
I know it sounds stupid
dense nebula
Chances are both sides are just using each other and will turn on one another when given the chance
dreamy onyx
Chances are both sides are just using each other and will turn on one another wh...
YEP
dense nebula
Actually we do know they’re using each other
golden oak
I think most omnics don’t believe in null sector’s way of fighting for rights
dense nebula
talon is using Null Sector to bring about a new conflict
To evolve humanity
Idk what Null Sector is using Talon for
Resources?
dreamy onyx
null sector is using talon to help them gain resources
golden oak
Pretty much all null sector founding members left afaik
hushed jetty
prob resoirces ye
dense nebula
and the’ll have to turn against each other cause they need to use the conflict to evolve
Can’t evolve if you’re dead
golden oak
Resources?
They needed them for invasion
dreamy onyx
as soon as null sector can be self sustaining they will turn against each other
peak escarp
Null Sector troops are all non sentient drones
hushed jetty
its so silly bc ramattra is LITERALLY pulling an anubis rn
like not even an exaggeration
golden oak
Pretty much all null sector founding members left afaik
It’s just ram running the shop now
dense nebula
Could be argued that the difference here is Ram isn’t egomaniacal like Anubis was
He fought in the frontlines
He knows what happens
golden oak
its so silly bc ramattra is LITERALLY pulling an anubis rn
Like father like son
peak escarp
pretty much
peak escarp
Nameless even accuses him of being just like Anubis in the short story
dreamy onyx
curious on how ramattra was a omnic soldier then turned into having huge ass arms and punching power
hushed jetty
we techbically dont know if nemesis is canon
peak escarp
nanites
golden oak
Could be argued that the difference here is Ram isn’t egomaniacal like Anubis wa...
Anubis wasn’t sentient pretty sure, it was just an AI that had an error
hushed jetty
i hope it is
dense nebula
Anubis wasn’t sentient pretty sure, it was just an AI that had an error
This is why you must always debug your code
dense nebula
Tiny micro machines
golden oak
what are nanites
Like tiny bots?
peak escarp
yes
dense nebula
i hope it is
I’m sure it is what I wanna know is how strong it is in lore
Can it hold back a non primal rage Winston?
hushed jetty
prob not
dense nebula
you never know, Doomfist could wipe the floor with Winston
hushed jetty
remember doomfist lost to primal rage winston
dense nebula
I said non primal rage
hushed jetty
oh non. im illiterate
peak escarp
Doomfist lost to Winston once already
dense nebula
Nemesis would probably be about the strength of Orisa all things considered
dreamy onyx
I feel like there are more null sector members than just ramattra
peak escarp
if there are we haven't seen them
golden oak
I think the reason ram said he likes ants is not only because they’re like omnics, but also because he’s got that nanite technology which are also like ants (can create stuff while stacked together)
dreamy onyx
Nemesis would probably be about the strength of Orisa all things considered
what is nemesis
hushed jetty
omg i need to know mauga's favorite animal asap
dense nebula
punchy punchy McGee
hushed jetty
i KNOW he's got a freaky favorite
dense nebula
omg i need to know mauga's favorite animal asap
Makos probably
Fierce and aggressive like him
dreamy onyx
we techbically dont know if nemesis is canon
how
hushed jetty
we havent seen it in lore yet
we know that abilities can be non canon, or at leasr work differently than in canon
golden oak
omg i need to know mauga's favorite animal asap
Shark?
dreamy onyx
how much calories does mauga eat a day
dense nebula
how much calories does mauga eat a day
Yes
dreamy onyx
like does he have to eat a certain amount
peak escarp
Mako is just shark in… Polynesian?
Maori
peak escarp
yep
peak escarp
a lot of things are like that... chai tea, naan bread, Avon river
dreamy onyx
a lot of things are like that... chai tea, naan bread, Avon river
tea tea
dense nebula
that guy from My Hero named Testu Testu Testu Testu
golden oak
Shark?
I mean because he has that necklace with like shark teeth, but shark aren’t that bloodthirsty as people show them to be, they’re like sea dogs actually
dense nebula
I mean because he has that necklace with like shark teeth, but shark aren’t that...
Besides Bull sharks
Fuck them
They live for pain
golden oak
Besides Bull sharks
Never heard of them
dense nebula
can even swim in fresh water just to fuck you over
dense nebula
Never heard of them
Most aggressive species of shark
Are one of the only sharks to be able to swim in both fresh and salt water
hushed jetty
mauga's fav animal being a shark would be so good bc baptiste said his favorite animal is a tiger shark
dense nebula
Their personality is what Bruce from Jaws was based on
Great Whites are less aggressive
Me personally, I’m a Hammerhead enjoyer
peak escarp
I mean because he has that necklace with like shark teeth, but shark aren’t that...
not shark teeth
they look more like orca teeth
which are actually the mean bullies of the ocean
they'll sink ships and bully sharks
peak escarp
no that's orcas
dense nebula
Actually Orcas being his favorite animal would work more thematically with Bap too
peak escarp
technically orcas are a type of dolphin/porpoise
keen summit
Orca would fit mauga really well
Big, cruel, orcas even are sometimes caught being borderline sadistic
golden oak
technically orcas are a type of dolphin/porpoise
They’re also called a killer whale
peak escarp
yes
golden oak
Idk if you can consider them whales tho
golden oak
In that case Mauga’s favourite is probably orca then
dense nebula
He’d prob call them killer whales
Cause they’re killers like him who just want to have fun
golden oak
Bap’s fav was tiger shark
dense nebula
Exactly, would fit their current relationship perfectly
woven jewel
I always thought of the Mako Reactor from FFVII
azure bluff
All dolphins and porpoises are whales
wild jacinth
I come back we talking about sharks
worthy rose
What is the bw incident?
peak escarp
you mean the Venice Incident aka Retrubition?
worthy rose
I just read hanzo ran away before the bw incident
peak escarp
oh
Hanzo left the Shimada clan before Blackwatch came to clear them out, so there wasn't much resistance
worthy rose
Ohhhh
peak escarp
this thread has some details
it also explains how Overwatch was able to save Genji
wild jacinth
Do you guys any of the current characters will join talon?
Like how some have joined overwatch?
peak escarp
not likely
wild jacinth
That sucks
worn latch
Is there any lifeweaver content in declassified 😞😞
worthy rose
I don’t understand how dragon spirits is a thing in overwatch
Did they say how the shimada clan got those abilities?
Or how Kiriko got the fox spirit
worthy rose
Is there any lifeweaver content in declassified 😞😞
I think there is something about Mauga and gives some context why lw is interested in him
I’m not sure tho I haven’t read the book
worthy rose
I just read something in twitter
But I don’t think there is something explicit about lifeweaver
worthy rose
xd
merry token
I don’t understand how dragon spirits is a thing in overwatch
They just are
merry token
Or how Kiriko got the fox spirit
Her ancestors have been shrine maidens for the fox spirit for generations im p sure
wild jacinth
So what r junkrat and roadhog doing in the lore rn
digital marten
Did widowmaker like baguettes?
peak escarp
probably
twilit patrol
Why wouldn't she
merry mason
Did widowmaker like baguettes?
Why do you say did like she died
digital marten
Why do you say did like she died
Good point
wild jacinth
Yano what I think would be sick for mauga giving him a line or skin that's a ref to marvels juggernaut
digital sleet
dw about that one
twilit patrol
!!loreonly @digital sleet
twilit nacelleBOT
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twilit patrol
You're completely off topic
digital sleet
oh sorry
rain shoal
digital sleet
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what does rly wean
also who is kevin
is kevin lore realted
merry mason
he's kevin obviously
twilit patrol
What are you talking about??
vapid tusk
He’s most likely using chatGPT or copy pasting dev announcements
Mods, ban this guy (from this channel)
past copper
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past copper
Just ban the bot
dense nebula
Why do you say did like she died
Because who she once was is now dead
merry mason
Deep
wanton arch
Is this the PvE discussion
peak escarp
the PvE channel got archived because it was inactive
wanton arch
I thought the PvE chat got glitched for me
spare stump
What race is paharah
dense nebula
Half Egyptian half native Canadian
digital sleet
Just ban the bot
No I promise I’m real I’m not bot 😁
golden oak
the PvE channel got archived because it was inactive
We won’t need it for a while lol
wild jacinth
I really want a talon assassin as a character now
keen summit
I really want a talon assassin as a character now
Eh kinda unlikely
Ofcourse we could get a new character who is that. But from what we know mauga isnt JUST a heavy unit anymore
golden oak
I really want a talon assassin as a character now
The one who climbs walls? I think that used to be a prototype for genji originally
I mean because project titan (I think that was the name) had like some ninja woman and a Hybrid between Hanzo and genji
But they decided to give Hanzo just the bow and genji got merged with that assassin/ninja woman
wild jacinth
I dunno I think it would just be fun
Playing as the assassin
Like they could do what they did with mauga as in he basically just an upgraded heavy assault
Do the same with the assassin
golden oak
Playing as the assassin
Wouldn’t it just be like another genji?
wild jacinth
Nah I think if they do it right they'll feel different enough
keen summit
Like they could do what they did with mauga as in he basically just an upgraded ...
They still work differently. Also it would need to be like, different enough and feel logical for them to add
It could be cool but lookibg at the cast u have 2 almost 3 kind off assasons in talon
Ofcourse widow being the main one
We now lnow that mauga is atleast a higher level asset than at first now cuz well. If it was "letting loose with friends " and was talon in general they couldve shown just random talon agents. Its also why sigma actually seems to now be confirmed as a person who also gers put in the field
keen summit
Doom and moira, moira also went in the field with blackwatch so fots her and doom has been in the field aka with orisa
keen summit
Yes. I am happy that mauga seems to have become more important in talon
Hes likely like widow and sombra, not part of the council but important and powerfull asset
Though it would be hilarious if he was oart of the council, walks into a thing bout plans, says its for nerds, walks away
fresh rock
You know.. we're getting Talon missions next.. if we see Mauga, woo buddy
fresh rock
Though it would be hilarious if he was oart of the council, walks into a thing b...
Funny, he's smart too.
dense nebula
Though it would be hilarious if he was oart of the council, walks into a thing b...
Well that’s not what Mauga is like tho
He’s an extremely smart tactician
keen summit
He is i know
However
Hes also the type to find planning way in advance as tedious
U can kinda compare him to todo from jjk, legit a smart guy, but dislikes boring things
He can plan, but he prefers to do it when doing stuff, as he also can be rather short sighted as we saw with him wanting to kill a person who could be used for intel
So i think seeing him as a powerfull asset is best. Hes like sombra amd widow, something theyd send in for certain missions. Widow is assasinations and precision things, sombra is likely also killing but mainly for intel and spying and mauga would be if they just need to get control over a location, send in a powerfull unstoppable force with a mind for tactics
fresh rock
Well, he has a knack for bringing people together.
keen summit
Yea
So im happy cuz he climbed up the ranks cuz of well him being powerfull af
Im curious to hear more interactions cuz the line of doom is interesting "remember: you demanded thos challenge"
fresh rock
Perhaps so. I think he's referring to his ult.
Although in game, Doom most likely won't win those challenges
keen summit
Although in game, Doom most likely won't win those challenges
Its not in his ukt tho
Itd outside of it
fresh rock
Oh?
keen summit
Yea
wild jacinth
To me personally the way mauga gets on is v similar to sombra in the sense he may just be using talon to achieve his own goals
dense nebula
When Mauga ults Doomfist he says “Hey boss, bad news”
wild jacinth
As in getting bap
keen summit
To me personally the way mauga gets on is v similar to sombra in the sense he ma...
He likely uses it as a way to have fun
dense nebula
Honestly
keen summit
As in getting bap
We already know overwatch is getting hunted by them
fresh rock
Well, he HAD to.
dense nebula
Despite working for terrorists and being a literal psychopath
Mauga seems like a cool guy to hang out with
fresh rock
Mauga seems like a cool guy to hang out with
Well as of now, yes
keen summit
Mauga seems like a cool guy to hang out with
Thats the point, you want mauga on YOUR side
fresh rock
He wasn't always "friendly".
wild jacinth
We already know overwatch is getting hunted by them
Ino they are but maugas goal is specifically getting bap
Like
keen summit
Mauga is nice to hang with, IF HE SEES YOU AS A PAL
dense nebula
I like how almost all of Mauga’s dialogue to Bap is underlying threats
keen summit
Ino they are but maugas goal is specifically getting bap
Doesbt seem like it, before he also was with talon
wild jacinth
He has a whole book in his room about getting bap
keen summit
I wonder how he'll be to sogma tho
dense nebula
He has a whole book in his room about getting bap
Wait where is that?
keen summit
He has a whole book in his room about getting bap
Yes, but we already know talon also is hunting them down
Its not a whole book, ateast we dont know
We see 2 pages
wild jacinth
Wait where is that?
Samoa map in maugas room
fresh rock
Wait where is that?
On Samoa. In his room. To the left of his bed
keen summit
If we see Mauga in the missions
Hes likely part of who are hunting overwatch
dense nebula
So, it’s safe to say Mauga is def out for blood
fresh rock
He has a picture of OW1 Baptiste circled in red
keen summit
Mauga chases after the one that got away
The scarier thing is that they already know where he is
wild jacinth
Ur really into this killer whale thing with mauga man
dense nebula
Ur really into this killer whale thing with mauga man
It fits thematically
keen summit
They also have a pic of gibraltar
fresh rock
Killer Whales are scary.
dense nebula
I like thematics
wild jacinth
It does
fresh rock
They also have a pic of gibraltar
He knows where he is.
keen summit
Theres a picture of gibraltar
keen summit
And zen was confronted by talon
dense nebula
Or a quirked up Freddy Fazbear
wild jacinth
Imagine a mission defending Gibraltar from talon
cursive flume
Or a quirked up Freddy Fazbear
Mauga
fresh rock
Or a quirked up Freddy Fazbear
Freddy is not in Overwatch.
fresh rock
Imagine a mission defending Gibraltar from talon
That would be a final stand.
keen summit
That would be a final stand.
Not necessarilly
wild jacinth
Why does talon go after zen?
keen summit
The final stand vs talon wpuld likely be orisa and doom
fresh rock
Why does talon go after zen?
Ramattra, presumably.
keen summit
Why does talon go after zen?
Connections, namely to genji and rama
dense nebula
The final stand vs talon wpuld likely be orisa and doom
Winston V Doom rematch if anything
fresh rock
Remember Mondatta?
dense nebula
Why does talon go after zen?
To stop him from making peace
keen summit
Winston V Doom rematch if anything
Orisa was specifically built to fight doom, tarkovs gun
dense nebula
it’s why they killed Mondatta too
fresh rock
The final stand vs talon wpuld likely be orisa and doom
Orisa isn't apart of Overwatch.
wild jacinth
I thought they were gonna use zen as blackmail or something to ram
keen summit
Orisa isn't apart of Overwatch.
Ntither was lucio
dense nebula
Orisa was specifically built to fight doom, tarkovs gun
Yeah but she’s solely dedicated to helping Numbani
And she already chased Doom out of there
fresh rock
Both have gotten stronger.
keen summit
Yeah but she’s solely dedicated to helping Numbani
And efi loves overwatch. Shes buikt to fight doom and lucio is part of overwatch, lucio has connections
fresh rock
Perhaps a rematch.
wild jacinth
we need to see more talon W
dense nebula
we need to see more talon W
This
fresh rock
But I'd like to see more of Talon. Each member is so interesting.
dense nebula
I’m tired of villains that want to be taken seriously always losing
keen summit
A rematch seems very fitting. Orisa delaying doom, orisa then getting hacked by sombra for example meaning winston has to take over
This is what i see atleast as a mission
I see talon attacking ginraltar as a lead up to the end
Cuz doom likely wouldnt do that
wild jacinth
The story between talon and ow feels like an old cartoon like the bad guys getting chased away comically and swearing revenge
keen summit
He would send in powerfull people to do it for him
keen summit
The story between talon and ow feels like an old cartoon like the bad guys getti...
Thats reaper mainly
fresh rock
I'm wondering. We're dealing with both Talon and Null Sector. So who does Overwatch take down first? Who IS the main villain?
dense nebula
I'm wondering. We're dealing with both Talon and Null Sector. So who does Overwa...
Overall Ramattra
keen summit
I'm wondering. We're dealing with both Talon and Null Sector. So who does Overwa...
Id say null sector, cuz rama can easily be reasoned with
wild jacinth
Doom getting chased out by orisa is actually unbelievable
fresh rock
I want to see Doom do more.
fresh rock
Overall Ramattra
I see how as a threat, but not the main villain.
dense nebula
I see how as a threat, but not the main villain.
He is right now
wild jacinth
Nah
dense nebula
Talon is supporting them
wild jacinth
Ramattra just seems lke he's being lead on
keen summit
Rama is the first adressed thing.
wild jacinth
And its talon thats really pulling the strings like
dense nebula
Ramattra just seems lke he's being lead on
Well duh, Talon’s using him to create another conflict for humanity to get stronger
keen summit
Ramattra just seems lke he's being lead on
The thing is that doom likely sold him a different story
dense nebula
But
keen summit
Rama believes omnics will get a better place afterwards, doom doesnt actually care
dense nebula
I do believe they underestimated Ram
And he’s a lot stronger and more tactical than they thought
keen summit
I believe the story will be echo somehow beong able to make new omnics sentient, ramattra concedes as the main prpblem is fixed amd lets himself get imprisoned as his duty is done (keep in mind he has paralells to moses aswell) and then outs talon
wild jacinth
Yea that sounds about right
dense nebula
I believe the story will be echo somehow beong able to make new omnics sentient,...
That would be the dumb way to end it
Having your cake and eating it too
wild jacinth
But its probs what will happen
keen summit
It fits overwatch thematically
dense nebula
Sadly
keen summit
Overwatch's themes are fighting for a better future
So killing someone who was doing that would be hypocritical
If ramas problems are fixed or he realises whst doom is doing, hes not gonna stay on his side
We know thst almost all heroes fight forca better future for themselves or for others
Even illari has the theme of moving forward
Another reason why orisa vs doom is likely is cuz it fitsxthe next generation theme of ow2
fresh rock
Possibly.
keen summit
Theres one big problem tho
azure bluff
Orisa is lame?
keen summit
Orisa is lame?
That too, but tbf i dont expect too much depth from it
keen summit
That it would be 1 big campaign
I thought of it as null sector campaign, then later talon campaign etc
But now with this format of 3 missions MAYBE each year
wild jacinth
Orisa is lame
spare fox
From Blizzcon it seems like they are not focusing on PvE so much anymore and the PvE they are focusing on is the hero mastery and tower defense modes. No word on if anything in game is going to progress the story other than introducing new heroes and maps yet
fresh rock
I worry for that.
spare fox
Yeah it's not great for lore fans. I've seen some speculating that they may look into other new games separate from OW2 to expand OW story but that's extremely optimistic
Bc he did say "Overwatch franchise"
twilit patrol
I don't worry tbh
rare trail
From Blizzcon it seems like they are not focusing on PvE so much anymore and the...
tower defense?
spare fox
It's just this thing that's like hero mastery
A way to practice heroes and get quantitative scores for specific heroes and metrics etc
fresh rock
Hm.
Interesting.
I hope that pve's production isn't at zero again.
Hopefully they divided the team at a good pace.
peak escarp
From Blizzcon it seems like they are not focusing on PvE so much anymore and the...
they said that more PvE story is coming, but it's being kept secret for now
sudden trail
can someone dump all the declassified lore.
spare fox
It's a 200 page book
peak escarp
that's far too much to just paste here
when I get my copy I'll make a google doc that summarizes everything
but Amazon has delayed it until the 14th
lavish vessel
Mine comes on the 12th I think 
, from what I’ve seen on Twitter it’s so cool
peak escarp
yeah there's a ton there
lavish vessel
Yeah ikr, can’t wait to look at it properly soon
fresh rock
Awesome! Can't wait for more lore to flow in! :))
peak escarp
the majority of it is worldbuilding, but there are sections for all of the pre-New Blood Overwatch heroes
so if you were hoping for something on Sigma or Symmetra or any other non-Overwatch hero, you're out of luck
fresh rock
Very. Should be a good read
wild jacinth
Which characters would yous like to see from the lore added to the game?
peak escarp
Sanjay
potent briar
Which characters would yous like to see from the lore added to the game?
Lynx Seventeen
i want more omnics and they seem chill ok
peak escarp
also Lynx
potent briar
Oh and one more thing
Not totally related, as in he doesn’t have to be playable, I want some more info on Emre
Because the declassified thing revealed some stuff
peak escarp
Declassified has info on Emre
potent briar
Not gonna say anymore
peak escarp
yeah
potent briar
Because I’m not sure how many people know or not
wild jacinth
I want max
potent briar
ik he was supposed to be Sigma but damn
potent briar
he's a coward
Just give him a selfish kit to fit him
If that makes sense
Like he'd only fight if it benefits him
peak escarp
he's more likely to run away or bribe someone than to fight
potent briar
Have him pull some Lex Luthor type shit and control a suit from far away then
Idk he's a cool character that should be expanded in some way
peak escarp
he will be
he's a significant character in the lore
I just don't think he should be playable
(I also think he's going to die in the story)
potent briar
I will be sad if that happens
I just want them to add more characters who are already from the lore instead of pulling characters out of nowhere
They were pretty good with it from Seasons 1 and 2
limpid agate
Venture is an existing character
potent briar
From where?
limpid agate
Petra
potent briar
I have not heard anything from them
limpid agate
Venture's shoulder
peak escarp
potent briar
When Kanezaka was released, there was a lore bit that had a note that Asa (kiriko’s mother) wrote to her husband which she talks about Kiriko
peak escarp
Venture is likely one of the archaeologists working on the Petra excavation
potent briar
It’s not working for me what is the link
peak escarp
what's "wtf" about that?
we knew MEKA recruited gamers
it's interesting that they tried with military members first, but the only ones who survived were the ones who had a background in gaming
sudden trail
its not interesting. its a dumb af reason lol. how did they even get a common ground was gaming lol
potent briar
Imagine being a navy seal or whatever in a mech program/branch and a titanfall player with no military background outlived you 💀
sudden trail
😭
sudden trail
TIL gamer are super humans in ow world. fml
potent briar
If one of them does end up being Venture in the end I'll take back what I said
Since Faisal is an Arabic name and Ioannidis is Greek it could be possible that Venture could have some Greek/Arab ancestry
Not trying to assume/finalize anything tho
peak escarp
there's also Blaise
which is a French name
Canada is multicultural, so Venture's nationality doesn't rule out any of those names
potent briar
Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well
peak escarp
Imagine being a navy seal or whatever in a mech program/branch and a titanfall p...
more like being a navy seal and being outlived by another navy seal who plays Titanfall in their free time
potent briar
Yeah but did D.Va have any military background prior to joining MEKA?
Or any of the squad members?
sudden trail
i am just thinking about the talk they had when they realized the common ground was gaming lol. "guys they all play video games in their free time. thats it. they have gaming in common!!"
potent briar
Imagine getting drafted because you're ranked Apex Predator in Apex Legends
sudden trail
imagine being a pro mnk using gamer but there is no place to put it on the mech. console supremacy
potent briar
"Congratulations! You get to shoot something other than pixels!"
peak escarp
studies have shown that playing video games does improve hand-eye coordination, problemsolving and reaction speed
potent briar
True
peak escarp
so it's not that big of a stretch
potent briar
imagine being a pro mnk using gamer but there is no place to put it on the mech....
You think some mechs have aim assist?
peak escarp
obviously they gave them proper training, they didn't just stick them in a mech and tell them to figure it out
sudden trail
all of them have it. they prolly xim too smh
potent briar
I know I know
peak escarp
imagine being a pro mnk using gamer but there is no place to put it on the mech....
this is why they changed D.Va's main game from Starcraft (an RTS) to Mecha Guardian V (a mech sim)
potent briar
I was talking about prior to joining. i knew they would provide them with some sort of military training after being recruited.
sudden trail
this is why they changed D.Va's main game from Starcraft (an RTS) to Mecha Guard...
lol. mobile gamers in shambles 😦
potent briar
Although it seems to never gonna happen, the devs even said they weren’t favorable to doing this, I kinda wanna see another MEKA hero
Which Ik would be unlikely because of the mech destroying part of the gameplay
peak escarp
if they were going to add any more MEKA heroes, I want Casino
potent briar
I want either him or D.Mon
sudden trail
i just think its dumb af on them finding common grounds being gaming or something. they could have gone the sponsor way where dva was sponsored to just fly around the mech for army support and somehow she is like super good at it and thats how they recruit her. oh well
i need more declassified lore. its been fun
peak escarp
why would they waste a mech on marketing?
hushed jetty
i need more declassified lore. its been fun
my copy comes tomorrow so lord knows i do too,
sudden trail
not a waste. like one of the mechs being just used to fly alittle as a support campaign. dva was already a pretty big star. it would make alot of sense
sudden trail
my copy comes tomorrow so lord knows i do too,
lemme know if there is any mei lore when u get it 🙂
merry mason
everyone knows the meka squad was picked because they're gamers this was a thing since day 1
sudden trail
didnt know. i thought only dva was the gamer. that sounds wack ngl
merry mason
overwatch is wack
sudden trail
yeah but this is even more wack. basically gamers rise up lol. well atleast now i know
merry mason
that tweet is written pretty funny though. "they all have one thing in common. Gaming"
fresh rock
if they were going to add any more MEKA heroes, I want Casino
Oh yeah! Casino seems like a good pick
fresh rock
Casino is an F1 driver
That makes me like Casino better. I like this design too.
Honestly, I don't mind the upcoming DPS. I think they seem like a good addition, especially after this absolute UNIT of a character, Mauga.
merry mason
yeah his muscles are kinda smooth
spare fox
yeah his overall design and appearance seem very... less-than-mid
seems to lack a bit of polish which i don't think will come from another month but who knows
his origin story video too looked off
fresh rock
That's what two hearts do
I think his design is interesting
His silhouette has the glasses
But his models doesn't
dense nebula
why would they waste a mech on marketing?
I mean we have the Blue Angels irl
noble tide
Like he could just pop at any second
Ngl hes pretty squishy for a tank
spare fox
I have never survived casting an ult as him lol
taking the pause from shooting for just the 1.something seconds turns him into a literal balloon
round viper
Just wondering, do we have any intel on Emre Sarioglu? 🤔
golden oak
Lifeweaver most likely has dyed hair (because dark eyebrows)
Could it be possible that this is his natural hair
It was like his release bundle skin too
worn latch
Lifeweaver most likely has dyed hair (because dark eyebrows)
Could it be possibl...
That means he's been dying it sincr he was like super young
In his origin his hair is bleached
Also his father has super light hair (that could be from old age who knows)
golden oak
Also his father has super light hair (that could be from old age who knows)
I’m assuming they both dye cuz that just makes sense
worn latch
Seems like a reach to me idk
Lots of characters have unnatural features so I don't think platinum hair is that strange
golden oak
Lots of characters have unnatural features so I don't think platinum hair is tha...
Like?
golden oak
We know for a fact kiri and genji dyed
worn latch
Oh fr
golden oak
Her mother has black hair so like
potent briar
You think Mauga's little white streak is natural?
worn latch
I was also gonna say Moira because I forgot ginger people ecist
potent briar
Idk how old he is
worn latch
You think Mauga's little white streak is natural?
It's probably from experiments
golden oak
What r the chances jq has access to hairdye tho
They somehow got beer in junkertown
potent briar
It's probably from experiments
True
worn latch
They somehow got beer in junkertown
Yes but she didn't live in junker town for her whole life
Outlands
potent briar
Then there’s widow
worn latch
U think they had hair dye out there
potent briar
her longass hair
worn latch
There's also ashe
hushed jetty
itd be pretty interesting if mauga's experiments caused One Singular streak of white hair
hushed jetty
ashe is just albino i think
potent briar
Wouldn’t her skin be more pale tho?
hushed jetty
ehhh idk
potent briar
Plus her eyebrows are dark
golden oak
Never seen a real person with red eyes before
Albinos have them red
hushed jetty
Plus her eyebrows are dark
well those could be dyed
golden oak
Or Ashe had dark hair and dyed white
potent briar
So her being in the hot ass west is a terrible idea for her
Unless she had an immense amount of sunscreen
Because ik people with albinism get sunburn and even skin cancer easier than most
worn latch
I think the strange colors are just so things don't get repetitive or boring. There's probably not a confirmed answer about lifeweaver or ashe
worn latch
I also think lifeweaver looks nice with the white hair he's a cutie patootie
potent briar
I also think lifeweaver looks nice with the white hair he's a cutie patootie
Fr tho
imagine it’s a wig and he’s baldweaver
worn latch
NOOO
wild jacinth
when max
peak escarp
Lifeweaver's hair is the same colour as his father and younger brother
which means it's either natural or genetically modified
not dyed
golden oak
Dark eyebrows tho
golden oak
Lifeweaver's hair is the same colour as his father and younger brother
Tbh curious about his siblings
He never mentioned any of them
worn latch
which means it's either natural or genetically modified
I just don't think it would be that much of a reach to say it's natural
worn latch
Dark eyebrows tho
My eyebrows r way darker than my natural hair color 🤷
golden oak
Ok but looks at him, that hair is almost white
golden oak
Ik but dark brows with really bright hair just bugs me
worn latch
He'd look goofy with white eyebrows
golden oak
Would he?
worn latch
That's because cleric is HOT but he still looks good wit white hair
It matches his character
His default outfit with dark hair wouldn't look great
golden oak
Idk, I might do a little edit on his pictures to see how he would look with bright brows or dark hair
worn latch
He'd look like asra from the arcana now that I think about it
The idea of white eyelashes is kinda growing on me brb
And eyebrows
worn latch
Idk, I might do a little edit on his pictures to see how he would look with brig...
absolutely not
worn latch
Shade them a little more
That's all the shading his eyebrows had originally
woven jewel
Reminds me of dio
woven yew
Does anybody know the significance between Moira and Cassidy?
I remember Cassidy saying Moira looks good
peak escarp
they were both in Blackwatch
woven yew
I see
peak escarp
yep
merry token
His last name is English??
And pharah had his last name for 18 years
Fareeha English
fierce jacinth
Man Sam is an illusion he’s basically not even a character
peak escarp
he's a very minor, unimportant character
worn latch
no wonder she changed it
LMAO
merry mason
I noticed Winston’s character log from pve says horizon was funded by lucheng and [encrypted], do you think that the encrypted one may be responsible for the mars colony?
keen summit
Who knows
What if it was talon
However idk the motivations of the leader before doom, as creatijg apes that were smart would fot dooms evolution theory but maybe not the former boss
Overwatch declassified is on its way
woven jewel
Former Boss was in it for the money iirc
keen summit
I thought that was between doom getting imprisoned and getting back
As in doom got imprisoned, money obsessed person became the boss, doom killed him after coming back
chrome plover
Sigma in lore doesnt like shoes
And if the voicelines are suppose to be lore related, i respawned as sigma while wearing the mythic skin and he says "Itll be more comfortable if these feet can breath."
fresh rock
These can't be real
keen summit
Nope