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so he's just a bad guy
let me explain, not all the heroes in overwatch are part of overwatch

also not necessarilly. it depends on your point of view
its just that overwatch is an org in the universe
u have for notable orgs, talon, overwatch, null sector, junkers and vishkar
?
because winston has plot armor
its honestly simple as that

boutta say that
lol
so who else is in talon
its simply cuz they dont want that. they also almost never kill people
from what we know in lore: from the cast
reaper, moira, widow, sombra, sigma, doomfist (leader)- ramattra is allied
in lore characters: maximillian, Mauga (likely next hero), family member of efi (creator of orisa) Sanjay (high ranking vishkar exec)
baptiste is a former member
Talon is under the leadership of doomfist, who has the motivation of "through conflict we get stronger" which tbf has been proven in history that progress often gets faster around wars. so he wants to start a war to catch out the weak and make the strong get stronger
Most of the heroes fight for something they believe is better for the future, which is the central theme of overwatch
further smaller characters in lore: Kace, connected to null sector
iggy: leader of the underground in kingsrow
i forgot the name but archeologist from petra
like goku black
maybe? idk
but it makes sense for a person who did martial arts his entire life and had parents with a prosthetics company
it tracks for him
Also important thing is, not everyone in talon shares that view
Although their goals somewhat align most of the time
they dont share it, but most do fit the better future part
moira is for future of science for example
Yeah but if there’s a war, people often shut an eye on unethical research happening
If there’s people dying, people stop caring about like bunnies dying in a lab
I think only time talon members disagreed on something was when Sombra interrupted Katya’s assassination
Sombra doesnt fit talon, she just knows they got contacts
a\
Tf were you trying to do?
Who’s the family member of orisa?
Didn’t know about this
Efi*
Oh
ok serious question why is torb so small is it because hes swedish
because brigitte is also sweedish but shes tall
I think it's because he's blonde
Or he didn't eat his vegetables 😓
Hope this helps 🙏
i guess it does thanks
Np
OH MY GOD THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
Torbjorn has some kind of dwarfism
Brigitte didn't inherit it from him
“Considering this size of papa. I’m already much taller than expected”

Dwarfism
thank you xx
Idk if that is true tho
yes
that is how the last story mission ended
When does blizzcon ow party even start again?
<t:1699034400:f> Day 1 Opening Ceremony (hero reveal and maybe cinematic)
<t:1699047000:t> OW Deep Dive (hero origin cinematic)
<t:1699124400:f> Day 2 Starts
<t:1699129800:t> OW What's Next
<t:1699141500:t> Community Night
<t:1699146900:t> Le Sserafim
What did the message say
What time zone this is
Yeah mine says 6pm
i am PRAYING for a full on cinematic
preferably for one of the ow1 heroes that never got one

yes yes yes yes yes
Ana’s slideshow 😭
ANA CINEMATIC WOULD GO SO HARD
?
ana's origin story is mostly a slideshow
Just a joke on how her video was a bunch of images
so were most origin stories
what ow heroes dont have a cinematic or short story/comic
only Sombra and Doomfist's were animated
all of the heroes since Ana have an origin trailer, plus Soldier, Tracer and the Junkers
most of the heroes don't have cinematics
some of the cinematics have multiple heroes
im asking bc if someone gets a cinematic tomorrow it should be someone who hasnt appeared in much, or any, lore
so for fhese purposes im counting "appears" as "is the focus of"
this is true but im hoping for some New and Spicy lore
it could also be a cinematic for the new hero
im hoping for the ram/zen cinematic teased back when ram came out
?
when dkd they tease a cinematic?
i dont think that video is teasing a cinematic
yeah it could just be concept art or in-game cinematics but i still like to be delusional
ye looks more like concept art
id love a cinematic that takes place in the past instead of post recall
like imagine if it was blackwatch, or golden age overwatch
or talon, pre-baptiste leaving???? sheeesh
the heroes that have gone the longest without any updates as to where they are in the lore
Hanzo - last seen in 2016 Reflections comic
Junkrat and Roadhog - though they did get cameos in the JQ cinematic, that took place 10ish years in the past so most up-to-date in the lore-timeline we have is Junkertown The Plan (2017) where they failed to get back into Junkertown after getting kicked out
I guess Wrecking Ball hasn't been given any updates other than traveling the world after becoming champion but... god I hope the cinematic isn't about Wrecking Ball >_>
other than those characters, we know what everyone is doing and where they are post-Recall timeframe up to Invasion timeframe iirc
ooo a hanzo update wojld be sick
I just heard a voiceline for Hanzo during setup on Esperancza where he said assasins tracked him down there but I'm assuming he has that line on a couple maps maybe? Can anyone confirm?
Betting the cinematic for Mauga being what happened right after he was blown up by Baptiste
that's a safe bet I think
If he survived, you think he needed extensive treatment for his injuries
Guy not invincible
thatll be in his origin story i imagine yeah
he's beefed af but an explosion is an explosion
We don’t know. His armor probably took the blunt of the blast, but his face wasn’t protected
there's something that's considered a biohazard involved with it and his in-game kit most probably
im hoping it has something to do with the supercoral mentioned on the samoa map
Hmm. Well, biohazard material is probably related to his ult. So going by that, Tank with barrier and machine(s), with biotic ult
Sounds balanced
i guess technically he might not have a barrier since his previous kit was given to sigma
it's kind of cool how this time tomorrow we will know
It depends how much time has gone by for him to change up his style
Personally, he’d probably dump one mini gun to use only one for more mobility
right, the short story did mention a shield on him but that could have been scrapped entirely or it might be part of his kit still
exactly!!! his origin story and everything
other than new hero I'm hoping for a new roadmap for the first half of 2024
True, but they might change his barrier. Most of them are different after all
with or without a barrier/shield wouldn't surprise me honestly. True neutral on it ig
Plus, depending how hero balances go, a new barrier tank wouldn’t be a bad call
We haven’t had one since Sigma
ramattra-ish
I mean, Ram is kinda eh with his barrier. I really think devs might scarp the barrier at some point in the future, but that’s just me
I find it so difficult to place Ram's barrier because I keep wanting to treat it like Sigma's mechanically
so I pull it up and oops it's on the other side of the map
Heck. The fact devs showed off an experimental version with his barrier to punch across the map shows even they aren’t happy with it
Not anymore anyway
Regardless, we’ll see what Mauga has to offer as a hero soon enough
All the third party merch is being posted: youtooz and gaming chairs themed after dva and kiri
hell yeah
Just 11 hours
If he has one id imagine it being kinda like beta bastiln, a shoeld directly infront of him but it has limited time of use
Where can I find all the ow news being shown tmrw?
Overwatch™ is a highly stylized team-based action game set in a future worth fighting for. Every match is an intense multiplayer showdown pitting a diverse cast of heroes, mercenaries, scientists, adventurers, and oddities against each other in an epic, globe-spanning conflict.
or Blizzard's twitch channel
Uhhhhh, new hero?
New hero is shown today with other big surprises
Wait what?
I thought new hero was shown tomorrow!
Ooooh boy
Roughly, as the hero gets shown in opening ceremony and then we get deep dive
The deep dive has origin story so the opening ceremony woth ow is either an cinematic or a s8 trailer
is there a lore reason why kiriko is an unlikable brat
Na, I don't think so, maybe because she grew up with Genji and Hanzo?
cuz shes supposed to be cool, but they failed
true
genji and hanzo dont make my brain numb so probably not
She was supposed to be relatable I assume but they failed miserably
lets hope so
At least thanks to kiri, Hanzo will get new lore 🤷♂️
today is hanzos birthdy
Hello 👋
Kiri really is just a massive zoomer in all of the worst ways
She's the anti-Soldier, with her lines kinda just being about her being young and energetic
oh no i know
I just don't wanna get in trouble for saying too much
||idk how y'all feel about leaks||
do not share leaks here
Is the ||Overwatch Declassified|| stuff count as leaks?
Sweet
Emre is finally confirmed as the mohawk guy, took long enough
Really hope they're the next DPS hero
Also this art is so unintentionally funny lol
https://twitter.com/skiesti_/status/1720305019696660968
DID MAUGA JUST GET LEAKED OR R THOSE NOT REAL
yes
thought i was in serious
where are these declassified things
can we talk about it after he's officially released or is this total spoiler-free zone?
after the official release is fine
aka few hours
okie, didn't want to spoil unintentionally
Oh sorry I didn't know 😞😞
I'm clawing at the walls rn
so excited
It's a new Overwatch novel
i know, but the info
Found them on Twitter, here's a trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4knnRCOIq0
the French version of the book released yesterday
the English version doesn't come out until Tuesday
I THOUGHT IT CAME OUT IN MARCH???
if you have a nearby bookstore, check it sooner because sometimes bookstores don't care about release dates if it isn't a major title
I got two of my OW anthologies early that way
overwatch declassified isnt overwatch ascendant
that's the short story anthology
Declassified is basically one big worldbuilding info dump

I heard that bap is from Haiti
Is there any mention of Dominican Republic at all in the lore
yup, his ult line is in haitian creole i believe
I know close to nothing outside of the shorts
have yall seen the new hero leaks?
Apparently can't talk about it here
aw ok
baptiste is haitian yeah
no afaik
I saw his reveal trailer and I didn't see anything about Haiti. Is it from a comic or just someone recognized his ult is in Creole?
It’s in a book. A lot of people are sharing images of pages on Twitter
um pardon me for disturbing but I wanted to ask is the image of ana with young fareeha with a bunch of overwatch agents stil canon or not?
yeah
okay thanks
this?
Canon
I think we have everyone here
Now that the guy on the left is named.
"Emre"
They have the answers I suppose.
seems to be, yes
Emre Sarioğlu
in OW1 she was 32
Ig in this picture they made her younger that she was supposed to be?
no
Because she should be around mercy and Cassidy age in that picture
shes 12 in that picture
? She’s like 10-12
in that picture Pharah is 12, Mercy is 17
cassidy and mercy are older than her
Ohh
still a 5 year difference
I thought she wasn’t older than 10 there
currently Pharah is 34, Mercy/Cassidy are 39
Yea that makes more sense
Soujorn
Sojourn
Presumbly
from left to right
emre(?) reaper ana pharah soldier rein torb mercy cassidy sojourn
TOLD YOU THAT WAS HIS VOICE
i need that hero deep dive asap bc wtf do you mean BOTH hearts
now that maugas gameplay trailer is out can we talk about him?
Hammond + Reinhardt
Welp, I love Mauga already and I haven’t even played him yet
He seems a LOT chiller in the game then he sounds in the short story tho, doesn’t he? Or is that just me
why the cover have the people mcree recruited for the new overwatch if the book is about old overwatch?
where do you see cass
the cover of the book have dva pharah batiste and zarya in the cover, the people mcree recruited, but the book seems only about the old overwatch, the original members
whats the relationship between mauga and baptiste
Friends from Talon as far as we know
It’s more complicated than that in all honesty
Mauga made it a point to hunt down Bap to bring him back to Talon or kill him
Because Mauga is sadistic and enjoys his work in Talon
of course a couple, no friends, friends dont exist in ow, everyone is in love with another
So it already puts him at odds against the more compassionate Bap
im thinking about what mr. keller said about mauga
the way he phrased it makes me think mauga has some depth or hidden tragedy to him
Besides getting blown tf up by one of his only friends?
Ex-coworkers/friends, but their author wrote them as romantic exes
I’m just pointing out that that’s how their author intended to write them 😭
Are they actual exes or is the circumstances of their friendship similar to one
Doesn’t mean it’s going to be canon
Because I’m getting tired of the exes trope in stories these days
Why am I not surprised?
in game, if there's a baptiste he has an interaction where he says "you and me, baptiste. you and me."
i wonder if thats gonna stir up some drama with Lifeweaver bc Bap and LW have been flirting in voicelines
lmaoooo fair
And also it’s always the same ol with writers these days
Hence the why am I not surprised statement earlier
If there’s friends turned rivals there’s always a romantic element to it these days
Can’t ever just be friends or brothers anymore
yeah but with those type of stories theres always an underlying tension of sorts
Like I said, just because Alyssa wrote them like that doesn’t mean that Blizzard intends on making the implied romantic aspect canon
Doesn’t need to be a sexual or romantic tension
And btw, I don’t hate the romance thing, I just hate that it’s overused
One of the best examples of it imo is The Lego Batman movie
hehe yeah
Which, granted, slams it in your face like a semi going 90mph
But ever since that it’s been cheap copies of the design
Gets boring
Erm no lifeweaver can have Me
LW can have whoever he’s a waste of a slot imo
im just a sucker for that type of stuff so as long as its interesting enough ill like it
Lock your windows tonight
I’m 6’1 260lbs, move me
fr lifeweaver is my 2nd best healer


if we're gonna talk about rivalries in OW reaper and soldier are the OGs lets be real
I can’t see Reaper the same anymore after all the videos of his in game quotes by players

lmao what was he been saying
oop

Using in game quotes that you can get mind you
As in they splice different quotes to left her to say this stuff
OHHH i know what ur talking about yeah thats shits annoying
It’s hilarious tho you can’t deny, but also messed up
@tall zenith Are you in the lore?
are you?
no
the new dps is on dva's squad right
no
have they said anything about the new dps and supp or just shown the concept art?
just the concept art and names
What are their names?
the damage hero is Venture
That explains the drill
the support hero is codenamed Space Ranger
so she'll have a different final name
Ngl, I expected Mauga to have darker skin based on some of the art he was in
They look like 2 more "Illari"'s that don't have any current connections
From looks alone
Venture has the symbol found on computers in Petra on their jacket
the archaeology faction seems to be called Wayfinder
Same group that Indiana Jones guy is a part of?
Archeological digs currently going on in: Illios, Petra, Ayuthattya
Wonder what they're looking for...
Fr
Venture reminds me of one of Mei's original concepts
Lifeweaver has a voice line when he pulls mauga
"a big ?hug? For a large friend"
Don't quote me on that tho
I'll go look at it in replay
what exactly is mauga and bap history
Why do I feel like they made Mauga more friendly
Ex-coworkers/friends
He seems like a cool guy
Nvm it happened with orisa too so I think it's a tank thing
why does bap ask if mauga is still mad at him tho
He blew Mauga up
I never had that line
It's new
Casual Friday events
I wouldn't hold a grudge move on mauga 😒
he says that?
Yeah also had that for orisa
they low key just said omnic dont have souls
?
watching the hero deep dive, they were talking about how an omnic was going to be the one tattooing him, but the cultarist they spoke to said that it had to be a human, someone with a soul.
someone who isn't familiar with Overwatch lore would see a robot and think, no, they don't have souls
yeah, but its still hilarious
how they kinda lowkey just said yeah, omnics have no souls
it's more about respecting tradition
I mean, what is a soul?
it's still debatable whether humans have souls
Found another one
"there, we can protect each other now"
So, I've noticed something while playing Mauga, he says something about "both hearts pumping hard" or smth like that, does that mean he has two hearts instead of just one?
Idk if these r character specific it's just when I lifegrip mauga
mauga is playable?
Not for long, limited time Mauga
Yeah he has two hearts I’m pretty sure
U can also hear both heartbeats during the ability
Btw, Mauga's charge can be stoped by another Mauga charge
Ha that scale
Tracer is 1m???
Hope no one takes that as fact.. or I didn't see it properly...
what scale?
Ok I kind of read it wrong but the way they have it viewed is stupid
OH MY LORDDD

Wait am I hearing something wrong in Mauga’s trailer?
When he does the Cardiac ability I swear I hear him say “both hearts pumping”
he has two hearts
cybernetic hearts
Well I guess that’s because he went boom
Kinda wish he was more cybernetic on the outside too
Confirmed now that sigma DOES join missions
it got confirmed? does mauga have a voiceline or smth?
Join missions?
Remember when Gavin said Shambali monestary had a teaser for a future hero like a year ago
And the new damage hero is a mountain climber and uses a drill
It's been right in our face all along
Whole ass trailer and origin story
This scene makes me wonder is Moira is really on the top of talon
Also yeah I’m pretty sure Mauga isn’t all there in the head
Like the mastermind
I’m pretty sure he’s some level of Psychotic
confirmed that sigma went on missions
not that mauga exists
I think he’s bigger than rein
Mauga is now confirmed to be a bit higher up than we thought tho as doomfist acjnowledges him
Sigma was included because he's a Talon member
Did y’all notice they did Mauga in game kinda like they did Junkrat.
In lore they’re criminals doing evil for fun
Meanwhile in game they’re friendly guys, even wholesome sometimes
a lot of heroes are like that
I feel like they’re making them friendlier in the game
I mean there’s few characters that don’t seem friendly
Also wild how they (probably) used Rein’s scrapped charge for Mauga’s charge
In early stages of development, rein had a charge like that where we would just run
He's shorter than lifeweaver
Mauga in lore was a charasmatic guy who is psychotic, like lots are irl
The scary thing bout them is that yhey can be sitting next to you, a nice barman etc and u wouldnt go "theyd kill people"
Sadly thats wgat war often does
oh huh
As the origin story shows he was in battles befire
Oh
neat
Aha, cool how we get gameplay tmrw
So instead of giving any idea on gameplay for Venture they tell us Venture’s pronouns

they were specifically asked
and the person who answered is a character designer, not a gameplay designer
Well in that case I guess it makes sense
Oh so that’s the trans character
Tho I’d very much prefer gameplay details over anything else
We are getting gameplay tmrw
is enby considered trans?
Venture is legit bekng shown off with early gameplay tmrw
Really? Seems like Blizzard learned their lesson
unless Venture still releases in two seasons
Anyone who doesn’t identify with the gender they were born with
Yeah they said tmrw theyll show early gameplay of venture, and will talk boyt the hero aftrt
Is trans
We won
hm
Won what?
So yeah, that includes nonbinary people
Exactly
okay, wasn't sure
I guess
Oh so he’s usually nice like that but he just goes psycho occasionally?
tbh I'm glad it's not one of the existing heroes retconned
He’s not going to break your spine without reason
at the least
any trans character should be designed as one from the get go
No, he just like psychos starts enjoying it
Mf got two hearts just to be more effective
Did you watch the origin story, he snapped the doctor’s neck for no reason
I mean when you wake up to the power of two hearts pumping your body
Chances are you’re gonna react aggressively

why
Didn’t he request that?
it seemed like they did it to save his life
Made it seem like he was basically dead since the explosion
And that’s what brought him back
We know for sure that’s not possible in lore, but you can save someone who is really close to dying (reaper, genji)
Was the explosion the one Baptiste did?
no
So he only joined talon after he was modified
Yeah
That’s where he met Bap and
depending on who you ask
Either became good friends or a thing
Imo they were just friends because random romances are boring and overused
Bap in game is like
“I know I blow you up, but hope you’re not mad at me 🥺👉👈”
Mauga is the sort to say I’m not mad while trying to strangle Bap with both his tree trunk hands in the calmest, warmest tone
Also idk if anyone mentioned here but something I predicted just got confirmed
We will get heroes and villains role swap (probably as BP theme)
It could be that that is the reason why bap said he probs survived tho
No he survived that cause his body is just too damn dense
Where was it confirmed
On blizzcon by Aaron
I know. But he survived an explosion before
Aaron Keller mentioned it during Blizzcon
I’m pretty sure Mauga’s body is as tough as Kevlar
Missed that
We’re also getting ancient Egyptian BP
he listed some upcoming BP themes, including eldritch horror, egyptian mythology, witches, and mirror universe
I called iy
Ra-mattra mythic
Sobek Mauga
either Pharah or Ramattra need to have the mythic for that season
If Ana didn’t have a mythic already she’d probably get
I want it to be ram but probably pharah
Pharah’s been getting too many legendaries in BPs
Yeah, ramattra could be so good tho, like a sun as his ult look for example
Better be Ramattra
And blizz dont follow logic with em
Eldritch horror so lovecraft?
pretty much
Osiris Reaper
We already have Cthulhu zen
Yes yes I know
ironic
If anything Reaper would be Set
And Soldier 76 would be Osiris
the obvious choice for mythic for an Egyptian mythology themed BP is Anubis Ramattra
Yeah
Shepard of souls to the afterlife
Shepard of Omnics to a better future
Osiris Ram would work well too
Or Horus Ram
Bes Torb needs to happen tho
I didn’t catch that there will be witch themed bp
So any female hero got it
unless they decide to do cool warlock skins too
Witch Moira
If mercy didn’t have witch skins already I’d say it would be mythic witch mercy
If we are to get another mythology themed BP
I want a Yoruban one
Shango Doomfist
Witch mythic could be any female hero tbh
Ngl, recent OW hero releases haven’t felt like OW heroes besides Ram and Mauga if that makes any sense
Characters I could see having witch mythic: Moira, Mercy (this one I kinda doubt tho), Echo, Mei, Sombra, Symm, Ashe
Although both symm and Ashe already have a skin in that theme sort of
Technically also moira if you count wicked
doesnt mei have a witchy skin from the dnd season?
A lot of heroes already have a skin in that theme
It’s alchemist
I wouldn’t count
Alchemy is just science magic
Ehh
It’s not as close to witch as Ashe warlock or Symm conjurer
Imagine Cthulhu Winston as eldritch horror mythic 
You can turn his jet pack into wings
Give him octopus beard, and done
I could also see wrecking ball being in this bp as some kind of eldritch eye
Like his mech having an eyeball or being an eyeball
Witch is too specific for a bp
could be expanded to a general magic theme
Mischief and magic 2.0 lol
Wizard Ramattra
We’re getting lots of horror related season themes next year
And I’m excited
Eldridct horrors ❤️ or joever you spell it
Joever
However
So why did mauga become a fun loving guy
One must imaging Lore discussion happy
Near death experiences change people’s outlook on life
look at John Kramer
Oh is that it? Thanks for ur help. I thought it was something bigger/less obvious lol
I think thats unlikely as a reason, it was specifically during "letting loose with friends" with tons of explosions. Now its very likely that sigma is used in missions too
I thought the operation like made him a monster, bc he choked the doctor
Now he has 2 hearts and is a diagnosed Psychopath
He likely already was
Yeah but before he could hide it better because he was purely serious
But now he felt invincible, ge survived an explosion, then how much can he fo
He’s survived two now
Yea
and I doubt he’s looking to make amends with Bap
Considering
Ya known
He’s the one who blew him up the second time
We dong know where in talon he stands now bit it wouldnt surprise me if hes quite high ranking
Chances are he’s actually a member of the elite
Because he keeps the angry berserker attitude as a facade
He also has a pic of gibraltar and baptiste curcled
He’s actually a highly dangerous and intelligent tactician
Imagine if hes one of the empty seats of the council now
Unlikely
More of an important asset like sigma
But, it would be funny
He was a lot smaller before
Sigma is what I would consider a wild variable for Talon
Mf looks like his name would be Sly Marbo
Doom sanjay moira and max having a calm convi, maufa barges in "what you are saying is for NERDS"
He got automatic biceps or sum they said
He’s so handsome ngl
Well duh
He’s Samoan
Everyone knows Samoans have a hidden passive of always being attractive
Moira could’ve rebuild him without all that metal
My question is tf did they do to juice him up so much
Steroids
We dont exactly know
Mf earned his name of Mountain
But knowing his line of "work on me" it would probs mean steroids, implants etc
What does weird me out in the origin story is that his silhouette is with the glasses
but surely two hearts wouldn’t do all that right?
Wrll yeah, but i mesnt implants for the rest of the body
He better have a skin where he wears the shirt with sunglasses
We see stuff everywhere on him
It’s not just his muscles getting bigger tho, but like whole body
Yeah, im guessing implants like doom has, imagine if doom actually gotvhom them
He reminds me so much of Montana in that game
Which is hilarious cause both their names mean Mountain
Mauga when killed hy doom has a line where he says "you put this challenge on yourself" roughly
And rama calls it muscles tho
So its unckear
Would you like to see my muscles
This is no time for diplomacy
No
I want the story behind that white stroke of hair
Gotta admir, tanks are always lucky with the hero releases
I mean, mauga, jq, rama and even hammond all were anticipated chars, orisa was properly built up and sigma has one of the best origin stories
Probably because tanks are very important in both game and lore
Notice how it’s always supports getting the “garbage” releases
Kiriko, Illari, Lifeweaver
I don't even know how Illari and Lifeweaver were announced, I just heard about Lifeweaver being added and Illari came out of nowhere for me
illari was teased a while before she released
I never heared about Illari or any teasers about her
Cuz they were all teased in lore before
Also, is there a lore reason behind Illaris abilitys, I mean the jump and her ult
Because I get the sun theme, but how does she fire a supernova
We don’t even know if they’re canon
Ah
It's somtimes confusing with what abilitys are canon and what abilitys are not
Like, Anas Nano Boost is just next level temporary steroids
Ok but like blizzard should make a collab with Disney, and make a Mauga-Maui skin
This guy
Oh wait
I don't have reg
Nvm
And then make The Rock actually record the voicelines
That'd be awesome
And I know Maui, I think most people do, funny demi-god
Is it canon that Mauga and Bap were a thing, some of their lines are, saucy
They actually already have pre-match interactions?
I've seen at least one where Bap is all flustered and like hope you aren't still mad
Plus some of the lines when Bap is killed by Mauga
"Lookin sultry buddy"
Maybe it's just how Mauga talks to his buddys, and maybe Bap is very sorry
just one liners
Mauga: "You and me, Baptiste. You and me." after the match starts
Baptiste: "Well, this is awkward. (nervous laugh) Are you still mad at me? Don't answer that." prematch
I mean, it would be awkward to be in the team with your friend who you blew up
Teased is a strong word, more like what we see now with next two heroes "here is the next hero"
I wonder what sombra thinks of Mauga
Since she has that one kill line with him
It doesn't seem like she likes him
I assume she doesn't because she's on good terms with Bap
What does she say when she kills him?
HE FUCKING CALLS LIFEWEAVER PRETTY WHEN HE KILLS HIM, AND WEAVER SAYS THE SAME THING ABOUT MAKING IT UP TO HIM THAT HE SAYS TO BAPTISTE
Mauga is definitely a little fruity
Wtf did Moira do with Mauga
we dont know but when trapping her mauga says "how bout you be the test subject for once?" so maybe she did some evil scientist shit like she always does
Maybe she had something to do with his hearts? I know she wasn't the one who implanted them, but maybe she developed them? Or modified them after he joined Talon?
100%
Something about a payback for a friend (baptiste)
I'm not sure
he got the natural one modified at some point so maybe she helped with that isk
"This is for our friend."
Somewhat
Their writer wrote them as romantic exes
Or, heavily implied at least
Because everything has to have some level of romance these damn days
writers really are running out of ideas huh
Who voices mauga?
Which could’ve also been done easily by making them more like brothers
Don’t know why it always has to default to romance
But desperate people be desperate to write love
Do u just hate gay people
There's very few romantic relationships between characters
I just hate overused romance in general
Idk what ur talking about ngl
There's anahartd, gency, pharmacy
That's basically all
Alright this is an overwatch server so I'm not thinking of anything outside of overwatch
I dislike romance being put in the game too
Hell there’s only like one video game romance I actually like
Mainly because I love both the characters
Wainwright and Hammerlock in BL3
Idk I think them being bitter exes is interesting
It adds more character than them being "brothers"
I think it’s generic and predictable
There's already a lot of sibling like relationships in overwatch
Besides they literally just started hinting at LW and Bap not too long ago
Siblings and family members that don't like each other
Why now have Bap have something with Mauga
People say this like he doesn't flirt with every single character?? Why are you talkjng about lifeweaver and bap and not sombra and bap? Or Cassidy and bap?
Genuine question
Those both have more lore
Because they’re leaning on those two the most
They have a singular interaction tho
and honestly because I forgot he fliteled with Sombra and Arthur Morgan
Yes an interaction where they ask each other out
Bap calls sombra sweetheart in one 🤔
In the short story he's basically asking if Cass is single
I feel like asking someone to dinner > calling someone sweetheart
And baptiste and lifeweaver don't know each other in lore
So it's not going to go anywhere
Most likely
Unlike the other romantic relationships like gency
Well writers have shown they do romances between characters because they think it’s “cute”
Wouldn’t put it past the OW writers
I mean I'd you make two flirtatious characters interact with each other
What do u expect

I know what’s going to happen to LW in lore
He is going to get ignored and left to dust cause he is not part of overwatch or talon 😭 (see Hanzo and Sym).
Hanzo no lore development since 2016 I think
fans get too worked up about relationships - both ways
the mad crazy frothing at the mouth shippers are annoying, then the anti-shippers over-correct to the point that they're annoying too
FR tho I feel like they need to expand beyond omnics, talon, and ow sometimes
To make world more big and lively
I only "erm actually they don't know each other🤓" when it comes to lifeweaver
Justice for my boy
They only like him for ship content
😞💔
But everytime this happens people complain about them not having ties to the big pillars of lore (ex: illari)
idk it seems normal and expected for a whole cast of characters to have some romance/sexual relationships in it, but at the same time the whole "pair everyone up" gets a bit annoying too
plus, I like what Michael Chu said years ago that most of the OW characters are "married to their jobs"
Preach
I don't mean to be one of those people but I doubt lifeweaver would have time for a relationship between healing the world with biolight and also being a fugitive
plus, I kind of like Bap and Mauga being exes - it's a dynamic we haven't seen yet and we have seen quite a diverse amount of dynamics for the cast
in the beginning of the fandom around release, Soldier/Reaper and Widow/Tracer kept getting the "exes on bad terms" treatment by fans and it just... didn't work and felt so forced
At least Bap and Mauga have actual canon history implied
Yet we have many relationships in game that fill that niche
Reaper/Soldier and Arthur Morgan and Ashe being the two most prominent
Sure not romantic yet they fulfill the same idea
Reaper and Soldier were never romantically involved. They were friends.
^
and Cassidy(I think that's who you mean?) and Ashe are ex-partners in crime
they're all quite different
So why add another with the only twist being “this time they may or may not be exes”
because it's... different
but it is, because it's not the same
how characters react with different characters is what makes a narrative dynamic
Lifeweaver, Mauga, Soldier, Sym, and Roadhog ALL would react to situations differently
and they would react differently with different characters as well
That kinda sucks. It leaves a lot of characters in lore limbo. Like I get overwatch vs talon is the main story but there are so many other aspects to explore like Vishkar,
I never understood widow/tracer I hate it
NO FR I need more info on Vishkar
(I'm biased cuz lifeweaver)
Yeah it has a lot of potential that’s getting, unfortunately, ignored
I guess we should be happy that OW is trying to expand lore I guess.
The PVE cutscenes were great ngl
I hope we get more.. they were conspicuously silent on PvE today...
He’s gonna be in the comic anthology next year
prob tomorrow during the whats next
there aren't currently any canon relationships between playable heroes
only between playable heroes and NPCs
and mostly in the past tense
the only heroes currently in a relationship are Tracer (girlfriend Lena), and Torbjorn (wife Ingrid)
It was mainly the enemies to lovers trope (that IMO did not work well even though it was just a fan thing)
Two sexy women
Ofc they were shipped
tho if you ask me Tracer is mid af
I suspect it was the Alive cinematic that sparked it
Really
yeah
the Cassidy/Hanzo ship started because they were the only two young(ish) male heroes on the roster at the time
Man I’m really cranky at night aren’t I?
the Pharah/Mercy ship started because they both fly
Gency was at least supported by in-game voice lines
roadhog mercy is partially blizzards fault
and I thought that was the way it was going, until the change in OW2
No one’s asking u
See I can play these meaningless games too

Seeing all the trauma that tracer got with the mondatta incident I feel like that's too far for enemies to lovers
The voices are asking me
That’s why I personally don’t think the enemies to lovers trope works for them at all 😭
Yahhh
Enemies to lovers sucks as a trope to begin with
Enemies to lovers can be good in SOME instances
it does
Imo
it's very unrealistic
I'm more fond of friends to lovers 
Ah yes this individual and I have tried to kill each other for three years
Let us now bury the hatchet as we “bury the hatchet”
I'm more fond of friends to pseudo-siblings
Careful, they’ll mistake it for romance

I ship almost nothing in overwatch because even tho they're all consenting adults...age gaps... It's just not for me personally

Anything more than 3 years makes me feel icky
I think the very idea of shipping is dumb
And I look down on people that take part in it to an unhealthy degree

Understandable
I can't count how many times I've seen people get mad at mauga ALREADY for "messing with their ship"
Y'all r weird if that's the only thing u care about
fortunately, I don't see many people shipping Cassidy and Pharah
Thank God
I just need to know this man’s shoulder width
that's a pretty small age gap - my brother is 9 years older than his wife
Ngl, still kinda weird imo

I consider anything above a 6-7 year gap in the uncomfortable zone
past 10 and you earn my glare
weird to judge consenting adults
Oh !
It's still a personal opinion
Not like I'm going around shaming real people lol
No I get that, but I still have my… restrictions?reluctances? Hesitations?
Am I finding the right for this yet?
His gun is the size of tracer which is WILD
I would say that it also definitely depends on how that compares to the ages of the people in question, in terms of… well, 75-85 is relatively speaking a lot less of a gap in terms of, not just age and development, but also life experiences, as opposed to something like 20-30.
That’s all based on societal structures though
Unfortunately, Hanzo + Cassidy shippers exist for some reason
Sounds like a…
Rah, rah-ah-ah-ah
Roma, roma-ma
a picture shows pharah, mercy and the rest of overwatch together and pharah looks 9 in the pic and mercy is like 19
they're 12 and 17
how do we know?
the writers said so
Without question, this man is an absolute unit
Hmm. Too bad we don’t know what’s with the bio material in his home
it was cybernetic hearts
like. extras?
Odd. Pretty sure anything with radiation would be a poor choice to use for hearts
its not a radioactive symbol its a biohazard symbol
But given what this man uses, probably only way he can be this deadly
Hmm. Wonder if it’s like that for all Talon Heavy Assault
i dont think they all have 2 hearts
You never know. You got people like Moira in Talon, it’s not outta the question there’s more messed up people like her
Who go the extra mile to make improvements to their units
from what i got from the origin story he got the second heart after almost dying, not from being in talon
I mean, you can’t look at the doctor who performed the surgery and tell me he couldn’t be apart of Talon
I mean, man's dead now soooooo does it matter?
i really must ponder what exactly made mauga snap after getting injured
Technically, we don’t know if he’s dead
knowing mauga he probably is
And it’s probably not that he snapped. Mauga just seems to love the thrill of a fight
And getting upgraded just made it worse
He’s basically a child playing a game. A child with very big guns
so maybe he was always kinda nuts but he stopped taking things seriously for some reason
Probably was a realization that he's in a dangerous profession after his close brush with death, so he just said fuck it and cut loose. If he could go at any moment, why not live life to the fullest every moment he can
i find it interesting that in the origin story we hear a flatline while he's being operated on - idk if that means he was straight up Deceased for a bit or if its just bc they were doin heart shit on him
You realize the more child like personality he puts on is a facade right?
He’s actually a very intelligent strategist and tactician
He’s just also completely psychopathic
It’s not much of a facade if you love doing what you’re good at
And he definitely loves what he does best
Fighting and killing
Hope I get the chance to play him tonight while there’s still time, bc I wanna experience this new monster in a fight
At least before they tweak his kit
I know it's not going to happen but they pull a 'Dragonheart' and make like he's a ruthless killer bc of the cybernetic heart(s) but actually he was just a ruthless killer all along
Admittedly I hadn't been keeping up with the latest OW lore happenings, though I did know about some of the pharmercy "hints" which I initially thought to be just a measure to please the pharmercy fans and give them false hope as part of "striking the balance" and keeping both the gency and pharmercy fanbases invested in the game. And then I heard about the PvE subway voiceline, but I just passed it off as just sarcastic banter, though I do feel it's a tad off and Genji & Mercy ceasing to write letters to each other is quite concerning
But then today I've read about evidence that Gavin has a bias towards pharmercy and the writing team hired interns who also supported the ship, and some of the skin artists, who are also apparent pharmercy supporters, have prioritised making Pharah skins seemingly linked to the ship to the point where she has gotten new skins during 6 out of 7 seasons, amongst other allegations. And oh, Gavin is also close friends with a hardcore pharmercy stan!
These are where I got the info from: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch_Memes/s/HB4ccxHKHM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch_Memes/s/zZBvtYWJxW
Though I'm not too sure about some of the allegations as I've taken a break from OW until recently. So I would like to verify if Genji's and Mercy's interactions were indeed totally deleted from the game (update: I've just seen plenty of comments talking about the removal of the interactions and now I feel it is indeed legit), and whether Gavin actually blocked gency shippers and blocked those who questioned the changes.
Either way, all these shit and having such devs already make me seriously worried about the state of Overwatch lore and its future.
(And apologies for the lengthy message)
Kinda fallacious considering Genji was long discharged from her care and they became colleagues afterwards. And I don't think Mercy would've fall in love with him while he was still a patient if the said ship is 100% canon
Is the volcano facility on Samoa also Mauga’s
It depends on age, after like 25 age gaps dont matter cuz ur around the same stages of life
Its importabt that you are in the same stage of life
Thats why in younger years age gaps are smaller, cuz at 18-20 some already work while say 16 most are still in school
So its weird, but after 25, MOST are already working and very well aware of their life
Imagine dying, then suddenly being alive still, ull not take life seriously
This is why I hate ships
Blizzard needs to fire the corrupted employees
honestly blizz is prob scared to officially confirm anything as they make more money making people guess and come up with head canons for ships by keeping it vague
people guess and come up with head canons for ships by keeping it vague
This is the modus operandi for pretty much every media company
If you start confirming ships, people get mad and engagement eventually drops
My lord I look in here and see sigmas balls is typing 💀💀
Certainly, just that I was that they were going the other way round after seeing all the allegations
But granted, it's not like they've totally dashed all hope for the gency ship either so it's not going too out of hand ATM. We'll see how this goes
Time for me to change my nick then LOL
Lol
Did yall already hear the Mauga voicelines for trapping certain heros in his ult?
No lol what’s some of em?
Oh yeah I saw those

