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They said they didn’t have plans to kill any hero off
But if a hero does die it’d depend on the form of death, dramatic, end of a chapter type of death, surprise death
probably, everything is yummy if you have faith
Zenyatta maybe
Probably tastes like radiation
Aw man
it would probably taste like chlorophyll
yellow skittles
I think it tastes like maybe static
Or sparkling water
What is biolight
Who would win in a fight: Junker Queen or Saxton Hale?
I don't know who Saxton Hale is, but probably Junker Queen
wtf
That's not Lúcio that's Liam
That's not Lúcio Correia dos Santos that's Lucas Cornelius von Sawyer
some dude from tf2
I do know who he is. Saxton Hale would win due to power scaling, but we're not going down that route.
Never outright said
If they would tho i dont see who
Most likely like one of the good people
Nah saxton hale. Hes from tf2 and is a beast
he's electric
hahhaha i love that I wasnt the only one who thought of that
lmao
New Lore: Lifeweaver is canonically hot
no surprise there
thats acutally me
wtf am i saying LMFAO
This is so true
I mean duh look at him
Look at Lifeweaver’s neck. Those holes look like googly eyes. Now you can’t unsee it
the real question is why is zen standing
(i know he is capable of it lorewise, its just weird)
That’s dva and zen, they’re dating
What aids are we on
Who else would it be lol
I know sprays don’t indicate lore so obviously neither of them are actually dating but I would assume that only playable characters are on that specific spray
what are you waffling about 😭
thats also visibly not zenyatta
That’s him, he just painted his jaw red
Nah
They don’t necessarily need to be characters in game
Even if the sprays aren’t canon
Just a thought. Do you think Ramattra acknowledges the names Overwatch gives to his units or not?
I feel like he doesn’t, bc Null Sector’s army is comprised of mindless war bots over actual sentient omnics
And acknowledging them as anything with a name would imply he views his robots as invaluable as his own kind
they probably just have unit numbers
He finds disdain in the ravager nickname they gave his model line so I imagine he is dismissive of the new nicknames
Mfer, I’d be HONORED to be called a ravager that sounds cool AF
Kinda funny that Ravager is the title you get for levelling Ram when he detests the name
No
TvT
did you ask a mod if you could share that survey?
@azure yacht message modmail for permission to send a survey
I thought you were talking to me and I was scared for my life 😭
Idk I just got here as well lol
But apparently someone posted a survey without perm and it got deleted
That’s probably all, nothing major
is junkrat and roadhog a couple?
A couple of dashing rogues!
bruh what
It's a reference to their voice line
But no roadhog and junkrat are not canonically dating
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JR might be Aroace lol
Idk he seems to be simping over The Queen lol
id LOVE if he was but i think this is more implying that he's an Idiot
Lifeweaver mentioned
I know skins aren't canon, especially not the robot skins but for some weird reason this doodle is on the riptire on the robot skin:
https://twittervx.com/faalund1/status/1644043681576677377?s=46&t=zu4n2fk4yNHGfJ_PrGG_1w
awww
He just wans family
The drawing of the 3 aussies is adorable 🥰
How did sombra join talon? Is that mentioned in the lore?
No but its likely just a way for her to get acces to more underground people
I’ve always wondered the ow/talon agents lives outside of their jobs
Like how many times does doomfist or mei shower??
How many time does tracer go back to London to stay with widowmaker and Emily??
Like does soldier 76 check into hotels every couple days to clean himself up and his clothes??
to stay with widow?????????
Oops
Forget that sort
Part
But like still
Does the ow heroes have lives outside their actual job
Mei should probably have parents or something
well yes but its just not really focussed on
as tbf, how many people would really want to know bout how many times someone showers
Why ana chose to be vigilante than returning to her daughter?
Because she wants the world to be better
google is a free browser that allows you to find alot of information, hope this helps
i checked but there was nothing
Just go into training and heal the bots and check hm
Check her ow wiki page
I linked it for him in #overwatch-serious
I was boutta do a step-by-step photo sequence on how to use google
First: type whatever
Second: press enter
Third: realize you’re a moron for not knowing how to google shit beforehand
enough
Mei for example we can see she has a bed at Gibraltar in the spawn room, so she probably showers fairly often there
Actually, yeah, that would be interesting to know if Mei has parents that are alive
Like what if she just suddenly showed up in their lives again after being assumed missing/dead for 10 years
I don’t think her parents were ever mentioned before so maybe they could be alive, it makes me wonder if we’ll ever learn more about some heroes parents like Tracer’s for example
Maybe- remember Lucio's dad showed up randomly messaging Winston after the Rio mission. He might come up later, plus his relationship with hard light and Vishkar
unless otherwise mentioned (or the hero is 60+), it's likely that their parents are still alive
Yeah exactly, that was nice to see on Winston computer
Oh okie
unknown and unknown
ok
unless you count the human guy as his dad. he's dead fr
I have noticed that recently with the new hero releases and other new lore, we've been generally getting more info on heroes' families and such:
Sojourn: her military parents, grandfather, her twin sister and niece
Junkerqueen: snippets of her parents, we know she had 5 or 6 siblings when they were kicked out
Kiriko: her mom, grandmother, a kidnapped father and upbringing with the Shimadas
Lifeweaver: is the middle child and still has both parents
Oh right and in New Blood we saw Zarya's sisters
Why is there a tattoo on Baptiste's right arm that looks like Illari?
this?
do you know what it is though?
I think the icon is titled “goddess”
It's the Maman Brigitte
a haitan goddess
It's the tattoo that he has on his shoulder, which depicts the Haitian loa/goddess Maman Brigitte, who is associated with life and death, healing and justice.
she's said to have red hair and breathe fire
Ohh thank you
Is that from this season?
Did roadhog always have a machete on his back? Could that be his new ability they're talking about?
yes he has always had that
Soldier has a handgun strapped to his leg too
I hope it’s not gonna be something similar to JQ axe
in OW1 it was a shotgun, he got it off some petty thieves in Wasted Land
Is there gonna be a new character?
in s8 yeah
the next hero will be a tank
and it will almost definitely be mauga
hes the guy in red here
yeah theres a hero every other season
I thought it was gonna be a support girl
the previous two added heroes were both supports so they did a tank instead this season
his name is Trang Le Nguyen, he's a Talon analyst
also he's a crack shot with a handgun
nguyen as a surprise dps in season 10 would be crazy
counterargument: another hitscan. 
Interesting.. I don't know why, but I kinda like his design..
im gonna be honest, didn’t know Overwatch had lore
Take a shot Everytime someone says this
rip my liver
lmao
Same with Captain Falcon lol
Would illari technically give really warm hugs since she controls the power of the sun? /gen
She’s probably radioactive too
you can call it warm, i'd call it blazing hot
If it cant burn me ion want it
where tf did captain falcon come from
we were talking about characters who have weapons on their model that aren't used for any ability
is he vietnamese?
He looks like chamber
yeah
then I think his name should be Trang instead to get rid of confusions, since majority of vietnameses have Nguyen in their name
bit weird his name is reversed
i dont think "trung le nguyen" is a particularly unique name in general
theyd probably give him a callsign maybe
his name is like because of how vietnamese names work
usually the last name is a combination of their parents last names and the last names are named off previous vietnamese dynasty, for example trang last name is a combination of the nguyen dynasty and le dynasty, while his name is trang
but usually the last name also come before the name itself so his name rn is reversed
did illaris accident kill everyone in her city or just the other inti warriors
btw? how is pharah older than tracer
wdym?
well. tracer is 28, pharah is 34
and we know from ana origin story
ig time shenanigans
what do we know from ana origin?
tracer isnt in that iirc?
the old overwatch picture doesnt show her
ah yeah misremembered
but WAIT
how old would she be here
cuz 5 year difference with cass
17
Whos the dude in the bottom left?
we dont know
pharah 12
cass mercy 17
soj 28
rein 41
reaper 38
soldier 36
torb 37
ana 40
oh hey btw new sojourn story
Why does mercy want Ingrid’s apple pie recipe if she can’t even make a coffee properly
can someone give me the connection chart?
What non-playable characters from the lore do y'all think would be cool if they were playable?
(besides Mauga he's basically confirmed atp)
push bot
I too would like to be immortal but unable to move when surrounded by both teammates and enemies.
2 others
Sanjay and max
For max tho i see it only one way, if he controlled a suit from far away like how they do with cars on circuit
Id also like iggy and Kace is 3rd for who i want, except ofcourse mauga
Fod me its
1 mauga 2 sanjay 3 max
4 kace and then whatever
Like some Avatar type shit?
Because I thought the same for if (in the very low chance) they made Efi playable, they'd do something like that so you wouldn’t feel like you're actually shooting a kid
Either way those are cool choices for playable mfs
ik some people in here get heartburn at the mention of Max being playable
hes like a non combatant and a coward and all that but his design is so cool
i hope he becomes playable even if its just like a robot hes piloting
He mentioned 76 had a handgun strapped to his leg that he doesn't use, and the same applies to Falcon
i mean sojourn and junker queen were in the lore way before overwatch 2
you could also see them in trailers
i guess so
Cool
Yeah, this is his ex-mans
https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Vincent
i just didnt expect to see Captain Falcon from smash bros to appear in #lore-discussion is all lol
from smash bros?????????????
let's be real, Captain Falcon is a Smash character at this point
yeah i know
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i know that he is originally from F-Zero. The shown gif portrays Captain Falcon specifically from Super Smash Bros Brawl
I'll leave it at that bc i dont want to get too off-topic
In Samoa map downtown there’s a speaker in Polynesian league building telling the history about Polynesian league, and the voice sounds really similar to Sigma’s
Can you send a clip
Ill need a clip of it
As i cant check it myself rn
iirc The Omnic Post on youtube either has a clip or a thorough summary of it on his Samoa easter eggs video
Starts at 5:04
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I might be tripping but it sounds like sigma to me
Genji was a part of blackwatch
after genji and hanzos fight overwatch offered genji cybernetics in exchange for him helping take down the shimadas and joining blackwatch
Woah
Its not
The accent is off
If its the same va. Maybe, but its not meant to be sigma
HOWEVER this may explain suk bout mauga
Note his reason for having fun while killing was "there are no good people"
What if he was alive during the world governments neglect of samoa
Yeah i meant same VA
could be
DUI speedrun
It's more like a permanent low-level buzz
it doesnt have that old man feel ykwim?
it may be a younger version of sigma OR someone else entirely.
Yeah because the actor changes his voice a little when he’s voicing sigma, look for some interview with him
His speaking voice is slightly different
its the universy signing tbh
go to blizzcon and ask the VA then idk
omg are they doing the VA panel thing again this year
idk i've never been to one
Probably, I wonder if they invite new heroes’ VAs
Hmm. So, any thoughts on what we can expect from Mauga as our upcoming tank
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I thought this was a friend's server for a second, what the fuck
Judging from the tubs/capsules/whatever in his room on Samoa, which have biohazard symbols on them, could probably hint at Mauga being a poison focused hero
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i’m getting a mandela effect
i remember tracer saying “i wish you disappeared forever” in an interaction with sombra but it turns it she says “won’t be a problem if you just disappear forever”
she's always said the latter
could be misheard ig?
Well i expect gameplay wise mid range brawl. personality wise charasmatic psycho
story wise, maybe he now is part of the people hunting overwatch, but then the NEW overwatch cuz baptiste was seen with em
yall ever think about how broken sigma would be if he was lore accurate
sigma hasnt actually done much strong stuff in lore
he can harness gravity
he has some gravity powers but we've never seen the extent of them
sure he hasnt shown the extent of them but the ability to harness gravity alone would crush at least half the roster instantly
it depends how strong the powers are
fair
the most we've seen him do is like levitate a few balls in code of violence
even just like minor gravity powers like that still crushes like a lot of the roster though
yeah
any normal human dies instantly which is half the roster
zarya survives i think bc of her bubbles (im actually unsure how lore accurate her bubbles are)
reins armour would likely save him
zaryas bubbles are canon theyre in one of the comics
i see
searching i think?
so zarya survives
i think most armour clad characters survive
dva inside mech likely survives
without mech shes just a teenage girl
shes not teenage anymore shes 21 but yea
every single support dies i think
oh true
i gotta wonder, how lore accurate are meis abilities
if at all
and in lore like in the pve cutscenes she can like make other stuff with the ice gun too
wall certainly dosent
i should watch some more overwatch stuff
I imagine Illari has to be near the top of the lore accurate power scaling
Those sun powers seem like they'd be pretty dang strong
we dont really know how strong she is
based off what we've actually seen in lore top 2 are orisa and winston
or ig top 3 is winston orisa sym (in no particular order) but sym is more speculation than the other two
I got Stan Lee's video on powerscaling recommended to me this week lol
Is the new crossover trailer canon
Ik they said they want crossover skins to be in universe so idk
Where did they say this?
I don’t exactly remember the post
But the philosophy is characters are supposed to be dressed up as the crossover character
Not be the character
that was what they said about the One Punch man crossover
Might be like the in-game voicelines kinda thing
Like not hard canon, but something they would do
this crossover is the girls dressed up to go to a concert
but the concert isn't canon
Ah I see
No cuz ow happens like 50+ years into the future
Maybe even 60
AI Le SSerafim Concert
Crossover stuff still feels weird
breaking bad crossover when
Tracer! We need to cook!
Perfect
I need le sserafim synced emotes CHOP CHOP BLIZZARD
yes pls
Just watched the video yesterday
Pretty neat, I must say
I like tracer’s usage of recalling to get that extra ticket lol
i have my wallet prepared for the emotes, skins, and they shall be consumed
We have been lacking in emotes lately.
especially the dance emotes for the new heroes
im still mildly bitter that there were no dance emotes in this battle pass
SURELY in season 8.........
Waiting patiently for the lifeweaver dance emote(I'll have to wait 3 yrs 😞)
Any idea when the Serrafim skins drop?
Nov 1
Wednesday!
can you buhlieve by this time next week we'll have already seen the next tank
I mean, Mauga is the only logical choice as a new tank
Unless they got the D.Va play style down pat, there’s little chance it’s going to be any other MEKA heroes
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We hope
Correction, non next season
They said so before release, they were working on y
The heroes till s9, so s8 was already worked on. They said no meka is in the works
An dey say
AND DEY SAY
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some madness and badness combination
why
I thought this was different channel, sorry 😭
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lore wise who do you guys think is the strongest/most overpowered hero
also the weakest
winston orisa strongest
weakest is probably zen or mei
?
generally overpowered means like stronger than they should be and thats easier to define in like games where all characters should be pretty balanced and even but in lore idk how to define "overpowered"
winnston or orisa
like obviously orisa and winston are physically strong but other heroes like hanzo have other abilities that give them advantage in a fight
yeah but like i think winston and orisa would beat every other character
the top 4 strongest are like winston orisa sym and sigma but sym and sigma are more speculative
isnt winston just a regular gorilla when it comes to strength
He’s genetically modified
- primal rage is canon
I can confirm it
ok but like
sigma has the black hole looking thingies
and hanzo can summon dragons and shit
that has to be stronger than a mutant gorilla
im not sure how good sigmas hyperspheres are for combat
and they arent black holes
probably gravitons
we don't know what the Spirit Dragons can do, but in the short they didn't seem to do much
although in the short genji probably wasnt like using hte full power of the dragons
he didnt really wanna kill hanzo
same with Sigma - we don't know the extent of his powers
We need a bot for this question lol
just based on story and what we've seen, Winston is strongest
mostly because he's the main character
LOL
Heard a voiceline where Rein wanted Sigma to lift him up with his gravity, and Sigma was like; "I've never tried it one something your size, I'm not so sure..". That implies that Sigma hasn't lifted up that much
Buuut he does when he lifts a team in his ult. Even when it has a rein too
Gameplay is not accurate to lore
The player??
I know it’s not lore that’s why I’m wondering
I mean like game wise whos the strongest based on the hero’s abilities and stuff like that not who’s the best hero in the game
If that makes sense
Is widows skin purple because she puts on paint or because its just her design?
Real question no bullies pls xx @nimble iron
moira slowed down widows heart rate which made her skin purple
Ohhh that makes sense ty
but shes blue
wait can someone please explain kirikos age to me
it's either a mistake or they haven't explained it yet
Isn’t it described as blue
yes
Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion
its "blue" but it kinda depends on the lighting. she usually looks more purple to me
Why she ourple 😭😭
Slod don hart 😔
this chat is the dumbest thing ever
someone said to me that moira didnt alter amelies physiology before
yeah but they also told me amelie wasnt changed when she got kidnapped
yeah her brain
Talon operatives kidnapped her and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning. They broke her will, suppressed her personality, and reprogrammed her as a sleeper agent. She was eventually found by Overwatch agents, apparently none the worse for wear, and returned to her normal life.
Two weeks later she killed Gérard in his sleep.
Her mission complete, Amélie returned to Talon, and they completed the process of turning her into a living weapon.
After several unsuccessful attempts to eliminate Gérard, Talon decided to change its focus to his wife. In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent.
Thanks for copy and pasting the whole in game description
Does bastion travel with torb?
yes
and at the end of the cinematic, Torbjorn declines Reinhardt's invitation to rejoin Overwatch
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you can find the cutscenes for all 3 missions on my lore document
i really wonder how ramattra would feel seeing bastion
Ramattra would probably be curious about him
too lazy to watch em all 😂
but i will eventually
voicelines are said to be like theoretical scenarios right
yes
so im assuming you're basing the claim on the voiceline interaction then
which claim?
^
claim is probably not the best word
that's just my guess
yeah
knowing Ramattra's personality
theres a voiceline that goes something like
"you seem to have a bird following you.... why?"
"bastion noises"
"well... if i see any twigs, I will let you know"
does overwatch know that ramattra is the leader?
it doesn't seem like it
not from the end of the Toronto mission anyway. They don't know who is making that announcement
they've seen his face, but they don't know who he is
Zenyatta may have told Genji about Ramattra, but Genji wouldn't know what he looks like, so he wouldn't be able to put them together
probably neutral if i had to guess
tbf bastion didnt really get a choice did he? he got reprogrammed by torb to not massacre everybody in that factory iirc
thats not true i dont think?
oh i thought he did
i believe bastion was actively ignoring his Murderous programming
and then torb went in and turned it off
so either way he wouldnt have gone full warbot
oh k
How come moira is considered unethical for testing on animals but lucheng isn’t for their lunar colony
I think moira just basically kills the animals
inhumane experiments
While lucheng just made them smart and advanced
i think moira is considered unethical for a lot of reasons lol
They made them straight up human-like sentient
what about hamster?
He is capable of having conversations with people, just can’t speak human language
True ig thag could’ve been one of the reasons lucheng shut down
(Probably because hamster voice box can’t produce our sounds)
Atleast j think it shut down iiirc
A gorilla being able to speak human is more believable so I think that’s why Winston can speak human but Hammond can’t
Lucheng logo behind Hammond
Dosent thag comic take part in the past
Of when hammond was in the colony
That’s why it’s in space
You can clearly see his mech there
wasn’t his mech partially made by something from the ship? so maybe that’s what the hall is
It was originally an escape pod he made, that attached to winston’s rocket but when he landed in Australia he turned it into his mech
Yo who wins in a 1v1 soldier or hanzo
Soldier went through soldier enhancement program + he has aimbot goggles
- more experience in combat
Hanzo would probably try to not kill him unless he had to
Lifeweaver mentioned
Hammond also appears to be wearing a space suit
maybe he wants to return to the moon in his short story
i imagine they dont make very many hamster-sized clothing
ig a space suit is his only option realistically
well... or nothing. he IS a hamster
he's a smart hamster who needs clothes to act superior to the inferior unclothed hamsters
SMH didnt you read that in lore?
I can beat baby dva in a fight
Most of them are from now tho, kiriko and hanzo for example
Most probs could
I think the junkers are infiltrating one of those mull sector ships
Weird to see Junkrat and Roadhog teaming up with queen tho
Common enemy probs
Thats why i think null sector
Theyd team up if its omnics attacking
They’re not attacking junkertown tho
There’s no omnics in junkertown (at least not alive omnics)
Thats why i saud a nullsector ship, wouldnt surprise me if rama has a personal grudge ahainst the junkers. Afterall they stopped an oppurtubity for onnjcs to have their own place, the outback, by attacking in protest
Ramattra wants a place for omnics as one of the things for the future, so reclaining land that the goverment wanted to give them would make sense
Yes but null sector’s current goal is capturing omnics
Yes, but thats why there might be a next stage. Which could be clakming land for well living
Put all omnics to sleep so they cant stop him and then wake them up when the world is better and when they have somewhere to call their home
What better place than a place that the goverment was willing to lose
OR
Null sector is in Junkertown looking for whatever it is Junkrat found in the omnium
some kind of core or other tech that operated the omnium
Dr. Liao did work in the Australian omnium so something crucial might have been there
Looks to me Null Sector is in Junkertown
Otherwise, why would the Queen and the two banned junkers be together? Unless something interesting happened in Junkertown
what would ram think of bob
Not gone lie, I wouldn’t put off the idea of Junkrat and Roadhog having somehow “covertly” infiltrated a Null Sector ship, took control of it, and flew it to Junkertown to show off for the Queen
No different from any other omnic he’s subjugating
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Guys… why is window blue?
Moira slowed down her heart rate which turned her skin blue
the story could be set before they were exiled
it's hard to tell for sure but it looks like their OW2 designs, at least junkrat has the goggles and roadhog has the nose ring in the mask - are the updated looks canon to the timeline?
yeah all base skins are canon iirc ow1 and 2
i cant believe every character canonicwlly got a makeover
besides for echo
you know what would be cool? if the ow2 characters got skins showing what they mightve looked like in ow1
that would be cool
he'd think bob is serving humanity out of well... obidience
Bob isn’t really serving humanity though idk
i know
if ram might view bob as ashes pet by like idk
but ramattra sees the omnics who arent rebelling as serving humanity
like theyre scared to do anything else
well shes not sentient
but hes sympetatic to her
when he kills her
Ashe's look is her OW2 look, but the description of the book says her story is about her life with Bob pre-crisis
I want this
Lifeweaver ow1 skin when
Yeah I think he just ignores him tbh like he's not sentient
There is an interaction between Ash and Ramattra were Ramattra asks Ash if she is scared that he is gonna do something with her "pet-omnic" because she told him to stay away from her terretory
are the crusaders super soldiers or they just that big
they're just big
They are
i think he actually called a bob a "servant" instead of pet
He's missing the finger too which didn't happen until after he was exhiled and came back to get revenge on JQ
The Ashe story might be a flashback framed by the current Invasion going on
I think the pet voiceline is for echo
Yeah he called echo a pet
nope
BAWBBB do something!
:0
Wait is bob sentient
Yes
All omnics that were alive during the first omnic crisis and were alive when Aurora sacrificed herself gained sentience
Some of the newly created robots by Null Sector have no sentience tho
If not all, but I'm not sure
none of the NS robots are sentient
bc they were all built after the awakening
orisa and echo arent technically sentient either
but in their case theyre so good at pretending that i dont think it matters
I thought Echo was in the same way Aurora was
idk what anubis's problem was tbh. like why was bro so mad
thats a crazy reaction to climate change
AI be like that
Hanzo’s arm lights up
Her recent short story covered that topic
She’s not as sentient as omnics
So, it is known that Torb at least helped developing things like the Bastion Units, and he did safe our Bastion, so what would Ramattra think about Torb?
Well likely how he thinks of alot of humans, they exist and hes happy they do. But torb isnt actively going out to spread that omnics should get more rights eyc
So ramattra wluld respect him, but still think he is fine with how it is
hey all ive seen the animated short and played pve but i wanna know
what was sojourns life like before she left overwatch
or rather
why did she leave
what’s that
blackwatch was the questionable side of overwatcg
Interogattions, secret ops, murder etc
Questionable research
hmm
They were just a little silly
Anyway where Mauga can I have him?
need that lw PVE rn
Trueeee but what about Genji?
He gets like an aura around him, and his armor glows green
so much emotion in those line
Is satya Sym?
Ignore the upper part
I feel like these would be the heroes dead
In like the very very end of ow lore
If theh ever decided to even kill heroes
why winston and bastion?
Why winston would die??
I feel like bastion would die as a “sad but not too impactful” death + to give Brigitte a sort of reality check which makes her more serious
even the ''very very end of ow lore'' it doesn't make any sense
And for winston I can see him in like a final battle sacrificing himself
Nvm I think it’s just more of a headcanon I want then
I doubt that the lore would end
Probably not for a very long time
Alright
see ya
if they ever decided to kill characters in a scenario
unlikely
Could you perhaps name off these scenarios? I doubt they would. It would be awkward playing as a dead character.
Yeah sure, I explained bastion and winston
I feel like rein, ana would eventually die of old age with their loved ones and sigma would die with sombra by his side by old age as well
Ram and doom would die in their respective final battles since imo neither feel like they’re the type to give up
And I feel that after talon was dismantled reaper wouldent have a place to go anymore, so I just imagine him laying down on a alleyway in a rainy night and just passing away
r they gonna make more novels
Who thinks rien is racist
he just doesn't think omnics are people
Yea but like did you see how he acted in the pve
Yea but it was funny
I kind of wished they had more echo conversations
Because I don’t know long echo has been out since her cinematic
Its already extremely unlikely they are going to kill off any heroes. And you think they're just going to purge 9 of them?
Not gonna happen
In the lore they might die but we should be able to play them in the pvp
if any hero were to die, i agree with reaper, ram, and MAYBE reinhardt if you squint but the rest of those might be reaches
I really doubt any will be killed off
If they’re not gonna add dead characters to the hero roster, it’s very unlikely to kill off one already in it
That's irrelevant
It goes against the game's core tone and themes very strongly
Honestly, only one that might MIGHT possibly be an exception to this core rule is Orisa
But even then, it more than likely unlikely
is bastion an omnic
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yes
It doesnt make sense for them to kill enemies honestly, simple reason being that ramattra would surrender if the eorld is better for omnics, and doom also doesnt have bad motives. They are trying to all make a better future and just punishing them through death doesnt make sense for overwatch's themes
Ram just doesnt make sense with the themes of overwatch to be killed, alot of people agree with his motive so if overwatch helps create a place for omnics ramattra likely would surrender
Overwatch atm just doesnt know why hes doing it
Also anubjs we likely know the motive now, it was the god program based on ecology, so its likely anubis saw humanity as a threat to the planet
Doctor six if your online do you have the thing where they confirmed not every ability is canon??
Rein I can agree but the rest idk
About that thing I don’t image it to happen in like a period of one year
Like
15 years into the future
Maybe later than 2100
so i wanna talk rq abt sojourns attitude towards OW from the invasion missions
she knew serving ow was something she loved but she saw it was becoming a corrupt nation and she didn’t want that anymore
seeing this cutscene shows that as much as she loves her friends, she still decided it was better to move on from OW and move onto the next big thing
Curious on why Ana is on that list 😭
Perhaps because she's old
(Not as much)
considering the average life expectancy now is around 80, it should be around 100 by then
Ana's got another 40 years in her
If not more
Btw, what’s the oldest known character
Happy Halloween Lore Freaks! 🎃
Bastion I see, Reaper I see as Redemption, Rein I can both see and see why not, Ram doubt it unless it's last minute redemption, Sig don't see why, Winston would prob be a fakeout, Zen I can see, Doom doubt it, Ana don't see it but makes sense but then 76 should be here, too
why does zen die? are we just assuming talon kills zen based off the pve cutscene?
if so, fair enough, but im just wondering
Hm, so theres No like really old people that we know
ngl im kinda down to turn back to discussing real events
rewatched Kiriko cinematic today, and seeing the little deaf girl, i have a seriously stupid question - if we would get a deaf character in game, would we hear the sounds when playing as that hero ? I mean it would be in character, but also a huge disadvantage
presumably youd still hear sounds bc the hero would be complete ass otherwise
It would be like if you played Ana and they took away half your field of vision and depth perception
technically they did it for all until there is VR overwatch, as we are watching 3D flattened to 2D from single point of view
that would be terrible to play
I mean ana is blind in one eye and we can still see everything
She lost her eye
Same for Reinhardt
But it would be terrible in game yes
You might have an ability that enhances something tho
Like it might give wall hacks if they're within like 6 [m] or something
anyone else feel like nova is what widow would be if overwatch were to capture her and fix her mind
like her new code name would be nova
A hero without hearing could be very interesting. It'd be a very customized HUD - more in-depth than what they have now for various heroes with special HUDs
Maybe implement the rumble feature for controllers in a certain way but not sure how that'd translate to PC players w current technology yet
This is how she looked like before becoming widow
ik
Nova is a Starcraft character
nice
taco bell
is the le sserafim concert canon?
no
you do know nova is a crossover skin right?
wouldnt make sense if it was, keep in mind they went from japan to busan in 1 scene of grabbing keys for the car
Does Widow even have an interest in her previous life anymore? Or is she too brainwashed
she visited her husband's grave for christmas once so idk
she likely does but its repressed
no i didnt but still im saying thats what it could look like if widow were to become normal again
change her name her hair and outfit yk to start new. Also idk if its just talk but i think mercy can fix widow bc of her voicelines
So, we all know how there was the Omnic Crisis and it was Humans against Omnics, well, how tf did the Omnics lose when they had armys of Bastions
I’d guess that it was because of Aurora's sacrifice that allowed the omnics to gain sentience and most of them joining with Overwatch to help with the war in their's and the human's favor
I would assume that Ramattra and Zenyatta were one of those omnics back then
Or because Bastion is more counterable than people think
I’m pretty sure that’s a crossover skin but it’s still cool to imagine
maybe
That's a crossover skin. It's not actually Widow.
i know… 😭
i explained badly
'tis a headcanon I think
So did the Baptiste short story hint that Baptiste and Mauga had something together?
Like more than friends
not really
The writer hinted
Not the story itself
Ah
ehhh if you squint maybe
the writer seemed to have that intention though
(Just the writer, yeah)
how did cassidy lost one of his arms?
From how it was said,
We don’t know
wait
Ashe said that she'd have "B.O.B rip off his other arm"
from the way she said it
it felt like she commanded bob to do it
as a punishment possibly
idk
Nah, that’s more of just a threat she said. She just specified the arm thing, doesn’t necessarily mean she made Bob do it in the past
how about his torso?
also cassidy lost his arm after he left the deadlock gang
or it can just be that he needed modifications towards his gunslinging, and pulling out his gun faster
and he got it from moira and mercy
?
Don’t think so. He still had his arm during blackwatch
ah
yea
maybe mercy though
maybe some event in between the end of overwatch - ow2 that they haven't shown yet?
that can be the only logical thing
but his torso is like robotic
It’s not, it’s just his outfit lol
oohhh
i wonder what happened to sojourn
did she like
get half her body destroyed
by an explosion
nah
which is why she's full on cybernetic
she had like a degenerative disease
btw who is sojourn
. Born with a rare, terminal auto-immune disease that caused her body to attack its own organs,
canadian soldier woman
She’s just had a lot of organs and body parts replaced 😭
i hate to say this,
um
steven chu confirmed
genji's "other half"
is fine
Genji?
😭
Yeah
yes
Michael Chu
Westofhouse fr
oh ik
the meta dps
well imma go now
peace out
he was asked if Genji could still use the toilet and he said yes, his lower torso still functions
many of Sojourn's organs were replaced with cybernetic components, but she would still have to eliminate waste somehow
hmm...
does sombra have any actual relationship with sigma, considering the interactions we have rn most likely aren't canon since we never actually see Talon setting up Sigma for battle?
They most likely interacted a lot in Talon
theyre both in talon
yeah but we never saw how they met, or how they got along
to see why their good friends apparently
and i love their relationship and i want it to be real
it's wholesome
I can only guess from voice lines but it seems like they talk a lot about Moira’s experiments on Sigma
I doubt they had any relationship prior to Talon
yeah ofc not,
maybe she knew him from the news or whatever
for his discoveries
before the experiment
and after
it's plausible that Sombra could be friends with Sigma
PVE (Wave 2) should probably have a cutscene where talon's like
"we have one final option"
and then open some door to show sigma
to properly introduce him as an enemy
and Sigma looks very confused
yeah exactly
because he's never been used in the field
Sigma is most likely the most powerful hero in lore, but we haven't seen what he can do
The version we see ingame for PVP, is just a "what if" version
if he lived up to his full potential, sure
or at least that's how i feel
he didn't stabilize his powers yet to the point he can clamp up
black holes out of thin air
that would destroy the planet
oh god is siebren gonna die
he doesn't generate black holes
he just makes graviton wells
like Zarya's graviton surge
ah
what's another question i have for the doc
oh yeah,
maybe wanna spoil this idk
do you know what's going to happen in the next wave of pve if you saw any early footage?
|| i only saw genji toss stars at talon troopers and save Zenyatta||
my guess is Genji saves him and takes him to Overwatch for protection
and we get other missions with other Overwatch members in midtown and somewhere else
Ah alright
and- i don't know if i can recall this correctly
a friend told me that Lucio went with Orisa
to fight Doomfist
is that correct?
because then i'd say that's how we can have orisa join overwatch after some convincing i guess
yeah that happens in hero of numbani
Oh good
then we'd also finally have more stuff on Efi too, finally being in a cutscene for once
The introduction of Lucio mentioning Orisa might be the teaser for the end of PVE wave 2
it'd only make sense
or the thing i mentioned for sigma
because we don't know where our heroes can go from there, and all characters have to be placed through sometime
Last we saw of Efi and Orisa, they were assumedly being recruited for a mission by Sojourn, possibly for OW
At the end of Hero of Numbani
OH
DAMN
i need to be caught up in lore
i found out last month that reaper and soldier 76 exchanged blows in cairo
i literally thought they never met and soldier was trying to find him
soldier and reaper used to work together in overwatch
ofc i know that
then why did you think they had never met?
hq
my bad
i thought it was a hospital because mercy is swiss
and whatever
but anyway
i was just saying
that's how far behind i am in lore
it's quite funny
well there's resources in the pins to help you catch up
i'll read em when i can, ty 
Wouldn't Sigma be the strongest character in the lore if it wasn't for him to go insane because of his control over gravity?
potentially
I mean, what is someone like Bastion of Genji gonna do if the bullets are immidently brought to the ground or just lifted up and you can't do anything with the dragonsword
this chat is funny
Doomfist clears all of ow
winston and orisa have both beaten him
?
Didn’t he beat tracer genji
yeah
winston beat doomfist after that
Where they different families/clans?
Orisa beat him with odds against her
Doom is powerfull, maybe more powerfull than orisa, however orisa can beat doom cuz thats what shes built for
Blizzard really missed an opportunity to have junkrat’s birthday be on guy fawkes day
leap day is funnier
jr was born on leap day?
Does anybody know how Junker Queen's lore ties her to Overwatch? In any way?
overwatch like the organization?
bc it doesn't, at all
she's tied to junkertown and the junkers, that's it
Oh okay thx
Overwatch heroes in game arent all tied to overwatch in lore
They just exist in the Overwatch universe right?
Anyone here got the story missions?
Ywa
i figure a good chunk of us do
Yeah I wanna try beat it on legendary
Or the lfg channels
Solo all of ow
When Vishkar tank
Like, Sanjay with a mech that has hard light technology or something
would be sick ngl
sanjay with the motivation of actually thinking they need to create a better world by cleansing the old one, thats why theyre with talon (please blizz dont just make it "vishkar wants money")
in the short "Recall" why was reaper going for data?
well likely to kill opperatives

