#lore-discussion

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hushed jetty
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instead of a redemption arc

ruby ridge
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They said they didn’t have plans to kill any hero off

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But if a hero does die it’d depend on the form of death, dramatic, end of a chapter type of death, surprise death

worn latch
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Do you guys think biolight has a taste

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Like if I ate it would it be yummy

loud horizon
golden oak
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Zenyatta maybe

golden oak
worn latch
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Aw man

peak escarp
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it would probably taste like chlorophyll

steel cosmos
short holly
torpid terrace
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What is biolight

peak escarp
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the thing Lifeweaver invented

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hard light + plants

vocal zinc
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Who would win in a fight: Junker Queen or Saxton Hale?

peak escarp
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I don't know who Saxton Hale is, but probably Junker Queen

wary sable
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Why is lucio white is he acoustic?

peak escarp
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wtf

potent briar
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That's not Lúcio that's Liam

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That's not Lúcio Correia dos Santos that's Lucas Cornelius von Sawyer

vapid tusk
fresh rock
keen summit
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Never outright said

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If they would tho i dont see who

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Most likely like one of the good people

keen summit
steady topaz
wary root
limpid echo
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New Lore: Lifeweaver is canonically hot

peak escarp
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no surprise there

sage stratus
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wtf am i saying LMFAO

worn latch
potent briar
short holly
vapid tusk
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the real question is why is zen standing

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(i know he is capable of it lorewise, its just weird)

merry token
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That’s

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That’s not zen

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😭

worthy rose
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Guys

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Doom op

golden oak
worthy rose
vapid tusk
# merry token That’s not zen

Who else would it be lol
I know sprays don’t indicate lore so obviously neither of them are actually dating but I would assume that only playable characters are on that specific spray

hushed jetty
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thats also visibly not zenyatta

golden oak
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That’s him, he just painted his jaw red

merry token
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They don’t necessarily need to be characters in game

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Even if the sprays aren’t canon

past copper
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Just a thought. Do you think Ramattra acknowledges the names Overwatch gives to his units or not?

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I feel like he doesn’t, bc Null Sector’s army is comprised of mindless war bots over actual sentient omnics

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And acknowledging them as anything with a name would imply he views his robots as invaluable as his own kind

peak escarp
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they probably just have unit numbers

merry mason
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He finds disdain in the ravager nickname they gave his model line so I imagine he is dismissive of the new nicknames

short holly
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Mfer, I’d be HONORED to be called a ravager that sounds cool AF

azure bluff
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Kinda funny that Ravager is the title you get for levelling Ram when he detests the name

vapid tusk
worn latch
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No

azure yacht
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TvT

peak escarp
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did you ask a mod if you could share that survey?

peak escarp
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@azure yacht message modmail for permission to send a survey

vapid tusk
past copper
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Wow. I watch Encanto and come back to this

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What did I miss?

vapid tusk
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Idk I just got here as well lol
But apparently someone posted a survey without perm and it got deleted
That’s probably all, nothing major

worthy rose
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is junkrat and roadhog a couple?

woven jewel
worthy rose
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bruh what

worn latch
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But no roadhog and junkrat are not canonically dating

woven jewel
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JR might be Aroace lol

spare fox
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Idk he seems to be simping over The Queen lol

hushed jetty
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id LOVE if he was but i think this is more implying that he's an Idiot

worn latch
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Lifeweaver mentioned

spare fox
hushed jetty
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awww

woven jewel
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He just wans family

ashen quail
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The drawing of the 3 aussies is adorable 🥰

jagged mortar
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How did sombra join talon? Is that mentioned in the lore?

keen summit
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No but its likely just a way for her to get acces to more underground people

golden oak
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Probably for intel

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She gets information for them, they get information for her

ruby ridge
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I’ve always wondered the ow/talon agents lives outside of their jobs

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Like how many times does doomfist or mei shower??

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How many time does tracer go back to London to stay with widowmaker and Emily??

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Like does soldier 76 check into hotels every couple days to clean himself up and his clothes??

keen summit
ruby ridge
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Oops

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Forget that sort

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Part

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But like still

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Does the ow heroes have lives outside their actual job

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Mei should probably have parents or something

keen summit
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as tbf, how many people would really want to know bout how many times someone showers

light reef
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Why ana chose to be vigilante than returning to her daughter?

toxic gull
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how much does brigitte E ability heal for

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how much does brigitte E ability heal for

keen summit
keen summit
toxic gull
hoary juniper
merry token
vapid tusk
woven jewel
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I was boutta do a step-by-step photo sequence on how to use google

potent briar
peak escarp
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enough

lavish vessel
merry token
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Actually, yeah, that would be interesting to know if Mei has parents that are alive

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Like what if she just suddenly showed up in their lives again after being assumed missing/dead for 10 years

lavish vessel
spare fox
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Maybe- remember Lucio's dad showed up randomly messaging Winston after the Rio mission. He might come up later, plus his relationship with hard light and Vishkar

peak escarp
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unless otherwise mentioned (or the hero is 60+), it's likely that their parents are still alive

lavish vessel
distant sparrow
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are winton's parents alive

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how long will winton live

peak escarp
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unknown and unknown

distant sparrow
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ok

hushed jetty
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unless you count the human guy as his dad. he's dead fr

spare fox
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I have noticed that recently with the new hero releases and other new lore, we've been generally getting more info on heroes' families and such:
Sojourn: her military parents, grandfather, her twin sister and niece
Junkerqueen: snippets of her parents, we know she had 5 or 6 siblings when they were kicked out
Kiriko: her mom, grandmother, a kidnapped father and upbringing with the Shimadas
Lifeweaver: is the middle child and still has both parents

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Oh right and in New Blood we saw Zarya's sisters

open portal
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Why is there a tattoo on Baptiste's right arm that looks like Illari?

drowsy juniper
open portal
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yes

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it doesnt really look like her anymore actually

open portal
golden oak
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I think the icon is titled “goddess”

drowsy juniper
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It's the Maman Brigitte

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a haitan goddess

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It's the tattoo that he has on his shoulder, which depicts the Haitian loa/goddess Maman Brigitte, who is associated with life and death, healing and justice.

peak escarp
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she's said to have red hair and breathe fire

open portal
vapid tusk
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Is that from this season?

hollow tinsel
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Did roadhog always have a machete on his back? Could that be his new ability they're talking about?

peak escarp
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Soldier has a handgun strapped to his leg too

vapid tusk
spare fox
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in OW1 it was a shotgun, he got it off some petty thieves in Wasted Land

final sundial
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Is there gonna be a new character?

rare trail
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in s8 yeah

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the next hero will be a tank

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and it will almost definitely be mauga

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hes the guy in red here

final sundial
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Next season

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Damn

rare trail
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yeah theres a hero every other season

final sundial
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I thought it was gonna be a support girl

rare trail
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the previous two added heroes were both supports so they did a tank instead this season

vapid tusk
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I would love the new hero to be this guy

peak escarp
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his name is Trang Le Nguyen, he's a Talon analyst

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also he's a crack shot with a handgun

hushed jetty
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nguyen as a surprise dps in season 10 would be crazy

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counterargument: another hitscan. agony

fresh rock
worn hawk
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im gonna be honest, didn’t know Overwatch had lore

worn latch
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Take a shot Everytime someone says this

spare fox
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rip my liver

jagged mortar
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lmao

jagged mortar
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true lol

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I've never noticed that

proven hornet
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Would illari technically give really warm hugs since she controls the power of the sun? /gen

golden oak
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She’s probably radioactive too

vapid tusk
proven hornet
vapid tusk
peak escarp
tidal cave
proven hornet
hushed jetty
tidal cave
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then I think his name should be Trang instead to get rid of confusions, since majority of vietnameses have Nguyen in their name

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bit weird his name is reversed

hushed jetty
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i dont think "trung le nguyen" is a particularly unique name in general

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theyd probably give him a callsign maybe

tidal cave
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his name is like because of how vietnamese names work
usually the last name is a combination of their parents last names and the last names are named off previous vietnamese dynasty, for example trang last name is a combination of the nguyen dynasty and le dynasty, while his name is trang

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but usually the last name also come before the name itself so his name rn is reversed

livid compass
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did illaris accident kill everyone in her city or just the other inti warriors

keen summit
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btw? how is pharah older than tracer

rare trail
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wdym?

keen summit
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well. tracer is 28, pharah is 34

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and we know from ana origin story

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ig time shenanigans

rare trail
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what do we know from ana origin?

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tracer isnt in that iirc?

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the old overwatch picture doesnt show her

keen summit
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ah yeah misremembered

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but WAIT

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how old would she be here

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cuz 5 year difference with cass

rare trail
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pharah? or tracer?

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pharah should be 12

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and tracer would be 6

keen summit
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i meant cass

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with pharah

rare trail
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17

grizzled briar
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Whos the dude in the bottom left?

keen summit
rare trail
# rare trail

pharah 12
cass mercy 17
soj 28
rein 41
reaper 38
soldier 36
torb 37
ana 40

keen summit
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oh hey btw new sojourn story

golden oak
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Why does mercy want Ingrid’s apple pie recipe if she can’t even make a coffee properly

ruby ridge
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Maybe with refinem-se can actually maremoto

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Recipe

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Makwmiy

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Make I

keen summit
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can someone give me the connection chart?

rare trail
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its in pins

potent briar
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What non-playable characters from the lore do y'all think would be cool if they were playable?

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(besides Mauga he's basically confirmed atp)

robust gate
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push bot

azure bluff
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I too would like to be immortal but unable to move when surrounded by both teammates and enemies.

keen summit
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Id also like iggy and Kace is 3rd for who i want, except ofcourse mauga

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Fod me its
1 mauga 2 sanjay 3 max
4 kace and then whatever

potent briar
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Because I thought the same for if (in the very low chance) they made Efi playable, they'd do something like that so you wouldn’t feel like you're actually shooting a kid

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Either way those are cool choices for playable mfs

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ik some people in here get heartburn at the mention of Max being playable

rare trail
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hes like a non combatant and a coward and all that but his design is so cool

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i hope he becomes playable even if its just like a robot hes piloting

pallid garden
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is there a chart of everyone's relations/affiliations?

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oh nvm just seen pins

woven jewel
honest bronze
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Yo smart guys is soldier fr gay?

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Or is google lying

lyric cypress
lyric cypress
lyric cypress
honest bronze
woven jewel
vapid tusk
keen summit
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from smash bros?????????????

worthy rose
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let's be real, Captain Falcon is a Smash character at this point

keen summit
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yeah i know

delicate lake
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!lfg

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!lfg

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!lfg

rare trail
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!!lfg

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vapid tusk
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I'll leave it at that bc i dont want to get too off-topic

golden oak
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In Samoa map downtown there’s a speaker in Polynesian league building telling the history about Polynesian league, and the voice sounds really similar to Sigma’s

keen summit
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As i cant check it myself rn

spare fox
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iirc The Omnic Post on youtube either has a clip or a thorough summary of it on his Samoa easter eggs video

golden oak
# vapid tusk Can you send a clip

Out of Bounds Secrets is a series where we look at how different maps are made in Overwatch. Today, we take a tour of the brand new Control Map "Samoa" released for Season 7: Darkness Rises for Overwatch 2!

NEW JUNK CITY Out of Bounds : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSj0JzrprAY

Music track: Secret Island by Aylex

Twitter: https://twitter.co...

▶ Play video
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I might be tripping but it sounds like sigma to me

hoary juniper
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Can anyone tell me the blackwatch genji lore

golden oak
rare trail
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after genji and hanzos fight overwatch offered genji cybernetics in exchange for him helping take down the shimadas and joining blackwatch

worn latch
grim tartan
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Monkey jump high

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With glasses

keen summit
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The accent is off

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If its the same va. Maybe, but its not meant to be sigma

keen summit
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Note his reason for having fun while killing was "there are no good people"

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What if he was alive during the world governments neglect of samoa

golden oak
peak escarp
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could be

potent briar
iron plume
vapid tusk
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it may be a younger version of sigma OR someone else entirely.

golden oak
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Yeah because the actor changes his voice a little when he’s voicing sigma, look for some interview with him
His speaking voice is slightly different

tepid lion
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its the universy signing tbh

vapid tusk
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go to blizzcon and ask the VA then idk

hushed jetty
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omg are they doing the VA panel thing again this year

vapid tusk
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idk i've never been to one

golden oak
past copper
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Hmm. So, any thoughts on what we can expect from Mauga as our upcoming tank

cloud summit
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Hello

rare plume
fresh rock
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I thought this was a friend's server for a second, what the fuck

potent briar
vapid tusk
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!!loreonly @rare plume

twilit nacelleBOT
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worthy rose
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i’m getting a mandela effect
i remember tracer saying “i wish you disappeared forever” in an interaction with sombra but it turns it she says “won’t be a problem if you just disappear forever”

desert yacht
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she's always said the latter

keen summit
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could be misheard ig?

keen summit
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story wise, maybe he now is part of the people hunting overwatch, but then the NEW overwatch cuz baptiste was seen with em

cunning burrow
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yall ever think about how broken sigma would be if he was lore accurate

rare trail
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sigma hasnt actually done much strong stuff in lore

cunning burrow
rare trail
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he has some gravity powers but we've never seen the extent of them

cunning burrow
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sure he hasnt shown the extent of them but the ability to harness gravity alone would crush at least half the roster instantly

rare trail
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it depends how strong the powers are

cunning burrow
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fair

rare trail
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the most we've seen him do is like levitate a few balls in code of violence

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even just like minor gravity powers like that still crushes like a lot of the roster though

cunning burrow
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yeah

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any normal human dies instantly which is half the roster

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zarya survives i think bc of her bubbles (im actually unsure how lore accurate her bubbles are)

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reins armour would likely save him

rare trail
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zaryas bubbles are canon theyre in one of the comics

cunning burrow
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i see

rare trail
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searching i think?

cunning burrow
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so zarya survives

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i think most armour clad characters survive

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dva inside mech likely survives

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without mech shes just a teenage girl

rare trail
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shes not teenage anymore shes 21 but yea

cunning burrow
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every single support dies i think

cunning burrow
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i gotta wonder, how lore accurate are meis abilities

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if at all

rare trail
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wall is canon

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not blizzard or cryo though

cunning burrow
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idk half the lore

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i was thinking cryo saves mei

rare trail
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and in lore like in the pve cutscenes she can like make other stuff with the ice gun too

cunning burrow
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wall certainly dosent

rare trail
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theres a cinematic about her

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rise and shine iirc?

cunning burrow
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i should watch some more overwatch stuff

zealous pumice
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I imagine Illari has to be near the top of the lore accurate power scaling

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Those sun powers seem like they'd be pretty dang strong

rare trail
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we dont really know how strong she is

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based off what we've actually seen in lore top 2 are orisa and winston

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or ig top 3 is winston orisa sym (in no particular order) but sym is more speculation than the other two

woven jewel
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I got Stan Lee's video on powerscaling recommended to me this week lol

glossy gale
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Is the new crossover trailer canon

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Ik they said they want crossover skins to be in universe so idk

woven jewel
peak escarp
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no it isn't canon

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Kiriko has never met those other heroes

glossy gale
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But the philosophy is characters are supposed to be dressed up as the crossover character

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Not be the character

peak escarp
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that was what they said about the One Punch man crossover

woven jewel
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Might be like the in-game voicelines kinda thing

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Like not hard canon, but something they would do

peak escarp
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this crossover is the girls dressed up to go to a concert

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but the concert isn't canon

woven jewel
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Ah I see

golden oak
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Maybe even 60

woven jewel
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AI Le SSerafim Concert

azure bluff
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Crossover stuff still feels weird

worthy rose
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breaking bad crossover when

azure bluff
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Tracer! We need to cook!

woven jewel
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Perfect

ancient flax
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I need le sserafim synced emotes CHOP CHOP BLIZZARD

peak escarp
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yes pls

vapid tusk
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Just watched the video yesterday
Pretty neat, I must say

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I like tracer’s usage of recalling to get that extra ticket lol

young bramble
fresh rock
rain shoal
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especially the dance emotes for the new heroes

hushed jetty
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im still mildly bitter that there were no dance emotes in this battle pass

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SURELY in season 8.........

worn latch
gilded sentinel
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Any idea when the Serrafim skins drop?

hushed jetty
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if i had to guess, next shop rotation

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or midseason patch
whichever comes first

peak escarp
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Nov 1

fresh rock
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Wednesday!

hushed jetty
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can you buhlieve by this time next week we'll have already seen the next tank

worn latch
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MAUGA

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AGHH

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I'm so excited

hushed jetty
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watch them bait us again and release someone else

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i'd cry i fear (/j)

worn latch
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Me but srsi

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I need mauga

past copper
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I mean, Mauga is the only logical choice as a new tank

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Unless they got the D.Va play style down pat, there’s little chance it’s going to be any other MEKA heroes

midnight hound
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!lfg Plat Platinum - Diamond Diamond
Tank 1/1
Damage 2/2
Support 1/2

vapid tusk
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!!lfg

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keen summit
keen summit
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They said so before release, they were working on y
The heroes till s9, so s8 was already worked on. They said no meka is in the works

golden oak
hollow tinsel
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An dey say

twilit patrol
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AND DEY SAY

rain shoal
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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

simple mortar
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some madness and badness combination

vapid tusk
golden oak
short holly
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You BUFFOON

twilit patrol
knotty totem
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lore wise who do you guys think is the strongest/most overpowered hero

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also the weakest

rare trail
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weakest is probably zen or mei

knotty totem
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i dont mean physically

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like overpowered in general

rare trail
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?

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generally overpowered means like stronger than they should be and thats easier to define in like games where all characters should be pretty balanced and even but in lore idk how to define "overpowered"

knotty totem
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like idk

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most powerful

rare trail
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winnston or orisa

knotty totem
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like obviously orisa and winston are physically strong but other heroes like hanzo have other abilities that give them advantage in a fight

rare trail
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yeah but like i think winston and orisa would beat every other character

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the top 4 strongest are like winston orisa sym and sigma but sym and sigma are more speculative

knotty totem
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isnt winston just a regular gorilla when it comes to strength

golden oak
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  • primal rage is canon
twilit patrol
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I can confirm it

knotty totem
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ok but like

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sigma has the black hole looking thingies

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and hanzo can summon dragons and shit

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that has to be stronger than a mutant gorilla

rare trail
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im not sure how good sigmas hyperspheres are for combat

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and they arent black holes

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probably gravitons

peak escarp
rare trail
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although in the short genji probably wasnt like using hte full power of the dragons

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he didnt really wanna kill hanzo

peak escarp
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same with Sigma - we don't know the extent of his powers

spare fox
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We need a bot for this question lol

peak escarp
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just based on story and what we've seen, Winston is strongest

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mostly because he's the main character

fresh rock
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Heard a voiceline where Rein wanted Sigma to lift him up with his gravity, and Sigma was like; "I've never tried it one something your size, I'm not so sure..". That implies that Sigma hasn't lifted up that much

rare trail
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yea

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most we've seen is him lifting up some spheres in code of violence right?

fading gull
merry token
fading gull
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Who’s the strongest game wise

peak escarp
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depends on the player

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but that isn't lore

fading gull
fading gull
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I mean like game wise whos the strongest based on the hero’s abilities and stuff like that not who’s the best hero in the game

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If that makes sense

peak escarp
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I don't know

sick surge
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Is widows skin purple because she puts on paint or because its just her design?

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Real question no bullies pls xx @nimble iron

rare trail
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moira slowed down widows heart rate which made her skin purple

sick surge
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Ohhh that makes sense ty

sick surge
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Oh

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I thought she was purple

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I'm colour blind

nimble iron
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wait can someone please explain kirikos age to me

peak escarp
vapid tusk
rare trail
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yes

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Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion

hushed jetty
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its "blue" but it kinda depends on the lighting. she usually looks more purple to me

worn latch
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Why she ourple 😭😭

merry token
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Slod don hart 😔

worthy rose
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this chat is the dumbest thing ever

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someone said to me that moira didnt alter amelies physiology before

peak escarp
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before when?

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because she didn't alter her before she killed her husband, only after

worthy rose
peak escarp
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not physically

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she was just conditioned into a sleeper agent

worthy rose
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yeah her brain

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Talon operatives kidnapped her and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning. They broke her will, suppressed her personality, and reprogrammed her as a sleeper agent. She was eventually found by Overwatch agents, apparently none the worse for wear, and returned to her normal life.

Two weeks later she killed Gérard in his sleep.

Her mission complete, Amélie returned to Talon, and they completed the process of turning her into a living weapon.

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After several unsuccessful attempts to eliminate Gérard, Talon decided to change its focus to his wife. In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent.

vapid tusk
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Thanks for copy and pasting the whole in game description

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Does bastion travel with torb?

peak escarp
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Torbjorn is staying at home in Gothenburg

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Bastion is going with Overwatch

vapid tusk
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wasn't torb in the pve cinematic

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stopping rein from demolishing bastion

peak escarp
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yes

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and at the end of the cinematic, Torbjorn declines Reinhardt's invitation to rejoin Overwatch

vapid tusk
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ahh i see

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i only saw stuff from tiktok fyp which is probably not a reliable source

peak escarp
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you can find the cutscenes for all 3 missions on my lore document

vapid tusk
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i really wonder how ramattra would feel seeing bastion

peak escarp
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Ramattra would probably be curious about him

vapid tusk
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but i will eventually

peak escarp
#

well, if you ever want to

#

it's linked in the pins somewhere

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

yes

vapid tusk
#

so im assuming you're basing the claim on the voiceline interaction then

peak escarp
#

which claim?

vapid tusk
#

claim is probably not the best word

peak escarp
#

that's just my guess

vapid tusk
#

yeah

peak escarp
#

knowing Ramattra's personality

vapid tusk
#

theres a voiceline that goes something like
"you seem to have a bird following you.... why?"
"bastion noises"
"well... if i see any twigs, I will let you know"

#

does overwatch know that ramattra is the leader?

spare fox
#

it doesn't seem like it

#

not from the end of the Toronto mission anyway. They don't know who is making that announcement

peak escarp
#

they've seen his face, but they don't know who he is

#

Zenyatta may have told Genji about Ramattra, but Genji wouldn't know what he looks like, so he wouldn't be able to put them together

distant sparrow
#

tbf bastion didnt really get a choice did he? he got reprogrammed by torb to not massacre everybody in that factory iirc

distant sparrow
#

oh i thought he did

hushed jetty
#

i believe bastion was actively ignoring his Murderous programming

#

and then torb went in and turned it off

#

so either way he wouldnt have gone full warbot

distant sparrow
#

oh k

golden oak
#

How come moira is considered unethical for testing on animals but lucheng isn’t for their lunar colony

ruby ridge
#

I think moira just basically kills the animals

#

inhumane experiments

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While lucheng just made them smart and advanced

hushed jetty
#

i think moira is considered unethical for a lot of reasons lol

golden oak
final sundial
golden oak
#

He is capable of having conversations with people, just can’t speak human language

ruby ridge
golden oak
#

(Probably because hamster voice box can’t produce our sounds)

ruby ridge
#

Atleast j think it shut down iiirc

golden oak
#

A gorilla being able to speak human is more believable so I think that’s why Winston can speak human but Hammond can’t

golden oak
ruby ridge
#

Of when hammond was in the colony

#

That’s why it’s in space

golden oak
rare trail
#

wasn’t his mech partially made by something from the ship? so maybe that’s what the hall is

golden oak
#

It was originally an escape pod he made, that attached to winston’s rocket but when he landed in Australia he turned it into his mech

worthy rose
#

Yo who wins in a 1v1 soldier or hanzo

rare trail
#

i would think hanzo?

#

but its pretty subjective

golden oak
#

Soldier went through soldier enhancement program + he has aimbot goggles

#
  • more experience in combat
cursive flume
#

Hanzo would probably try to not kill him unless he had to

worn latch
spare fox
#

Hammond also appears to be wearing a space suit

#

maybe he wants to return to the moon in his short story

distant sparrow
#

ig a space suit is his only option realistically

spare fox
#

well... or nothing. he IS a hamster

distant sparrow
#

he's a smart hamster who needs clothes to act superior to the inferior unclothed hamsters

#

SMH didnt you read that in lore?

worthy rose
#

I can beat baby dva in a fight

keen summit
keen summit
#

I think the junkers are infiltrating one of those mull sector ships

golden oak
keen summit
#

Thats why i think null sector

#

Theyd team up if its omnics attacking

golden oak
#

They’re not attacking junkertown tho

#

There’s no omnics in junkertown (at least not alive omnics)

keen summit
#

Ramattra wants a place for omnics as one of the things for the future, so reclaining land that the goverment wanted to give them would make sense

golden oak
#

Yes but null sector’s current goal is capturing omnics

keen summit
#

Yes, but thats why there might be a next stage. Which could be clakming land for well living

#

Put all omnics to sleep so they cant stop him and then wake them up when the world is better and when they have somewhere to call their home

#

What better place than a place that the goverment was willing to lose

spare fox
#

OR
Null sector is in Junkertown looking for whatever it is Junkrat found in the omnium

#

some kind of core or other tech that operated the omnium
Dr. Liao did work in the Australian omnium so something crucial might have been there

past copper
#

Looks to me Null Sector is in Junkertown

#

Otherwise, why would the Queen and the two banned junkers be together? Unless something interesting happened in Junkertown

distant sparrow
#

what would ram think of bob

past copper
#

Not gone lie, I wouldn’t put off the idea of Junkrat and Roadhog having somehow “covertly” infiltrated a Null Sector ship, took control of it, and flew it to Junkertown to show off for the Queen

past copper
unkempt rose
#

I FREAKING LOVR OVERWATCH (LORE DISCUSSION)

tranquil quest
#

Guys… why is window blue?

lavish vessel
peak escarp
spare fox
#

it's hard to tell for sure but it looks like their OW2 designs, at least junkrat has the goggles and roadhog has the nose ring in the mask - are the updated looks canon to the timeline?

rare trail
#

yeah all base skins are canon iirc ow1 and 2

hushed jetty
#

i cant believe every character canonicwlly got a makeover

rare trail
#

besides for echo

hushed jetty
#

you know what would be cool? if the ow2 characters got skins showing what they mightve looked like in ow1

rare trail
#

that would be cool

keen summit
rare trail
#

Bob isn’t really serving humanity though idk

keen summit
rare trail
#

if ram might view bob as ashes pet by like idk

keen summit
#

but ramattra sees the omnics who arent rebelling as serving humanity

#

like theyre scared to do anything else

rare trail
#

hmm yeah

#

what does he think of orisa?

keen summit
#

but hes sympetatic to her

#

when he kills her

peak escarp
worn latch
#

Lifeweaver ow1 skin when

lament coral
next jewel
#

There is an interaction between Ash and Ramattra were Ramattra asks Ash if she is scared that he is gonna do something with her "pet-omnic" because she told him to stay away from her terretory

pallid garden
#

are the crusaders super soldiers or they just that big

peak escarp
opaque tundra
spare fox
# golden oak They are

He's missing the finger too which didn't happen until after he was exhiled and came back to get revenge on JQ

#

The Ashe story might be a flashback framed by the current Invasion going on

vapid tusk
opaque tundra
#

Yeah he called echo a pet

hushed harbor
#

What y’all talking about

#

:0

#

Bob?

proven hornet
#

nope

hushed harbor
#

BAWBBB do something!

proven hornet
#

just ram being racist

#

with bob included

hushed harbor
#

:0

proven hornet
#

Wait is bob sentient

woven jewel
#

Yes

#

All omnics that were alive during the first omnic crisis and were alive when Aurora sacrificed herself gained sentience

#

Some of the newly created robots by Null Sector have no sentience tho

#

If not all, but I'm not sure

hushed jetty
#

none of the NS robots are sentient

#

bc they were all built after the awakening

#

orisa and echo arent technically sentient either

#

but in their case theyre so good at pretending that i dont think it matters

woven jewel
#

I thought Echo was in the same way Aurora was

hushed jetty
#

no she's not

#

echo is a really advanced learning ai

woven jewel
#

Hmm I see

#

But with limitations

#

To avoid the mistake of Anubis

hushed jetty
#

idk what anubis's problem was tbh. like why was bro so mad

woven jewel
#

Environmental Effects

#

Of Humans

hushed jetty
#

thats a crazy reaction to climate change

woven jewel
#

AI be like that

vapid tusk
#

i wish genji and hanzo's eyes light up when they channel their spirits

#

like kiriko's

golden oak
#

Hanzo’s arm lights up

golden oak
next jewel
#

So, it is known that Torb at least helped developing things like the Bastion Units, and he did safe our Bastion, so what would Ramattra think about Torb?

keen summit
#

Well likely how he thinks of alot of humans, they exist and hes happy they do. But torb isnt actively going out to spread that omnics should get more rights eyc

#

So ramattra wluld respect him, but still think he is fine with how it is

mystic jay
#

hey all ive seen the animated short and played pve but i wanna know

#

what was sojourns life like before she left overwatch

#

or rather

#

why did she leave

keen summit
#

Pretty surd cuz they did more and more questionable things

#

For example blackwatcg

mystic jay
keen summit
#

blackwatch was the questionable side of overwatcg

#

Interogattions, secret ops, murder etc

#

Questionable research

mystic jay
#

hmm

potent briar
#

Anyway where Mauga can I have him?

keen summit
#

we dont know yet

#

itll be revealed 3 nov

potent briar
#

But I want him NOW

#

Ok 🙂👍

ruby ridge
worn latch
#

ONG

#

I love his pve voice lines

vapid tusk
golden oak
robust gate
vapid tusk
#

Is satya Sym?

hushed jetty
#

yes

#

satya vaswani

ruby ridge
#

Ignore the upper part

#

I feel like these would be the heroes dead

#

In like the very very end of ow lore

#

If theh ever decided to even kill heroes

rare trail
#

why winston and bastion?

mellow stratus
#

Why winston would die??

ruby ridge
mellow stratus
#

even the ''very very end of ow lore'' it doesn't make any sense

ruby ridge
#

And for winston I can see him in like a final battle sacrificing himself

ruby ridge
mellow stratus
#

I doubt that the lore would end

ruby ridge
#

Probably not for a very long time

mellow stratus
#

yeah

#

well I don't have time to talk

#

I have to go

ruby ridge
#

Alright

mellow stratus
#

see ya

fresh rock
#

You assume they are going to kill characters?

ruby ridge
#

if they ever decided to kill characters in a scenario

peak escarp
#

unlikely

fresh rock
#

Could you perhaps name off these scenarios? I doubt they would. It would be awkward playing as a dead character.

ruby ridge
#

Yeah sure, I explained bastion and winston

#

I feel like rein, ana would eventually die of old age with their loved ones and sigma would die with sombra by his side by old age as well

#

Ram and doom would die in their respective final battles since imo neither feel like they’re the type to give up

#

And I feel that after talon was dismantled reaper wouldent have a place to go anymore, so I just imagine him laying down on a alleyway in a rainy night and just passing away

worthy rose
#

r they gonna make more novels

peak escarp
#

probably

#

there's a book that's collection of short stories coming out next spring

noble tide
#

Who thinks rien is racist

peak escarp
#

he just doesn't think omnics are people

noble tide
#

Yea but like did you see how he acted in the pve

peak escarp
#

yes

#

he acted like omnics are just machines, not people

noble tide
#

Yea but it was funny

#

I kind of wished they had more echo conversations

#

Because I don’t know long echo has been out since her cinematic

limpid agate
#

Not gonna happen

noble tide
#

In the lore they might die but we should be able to play them in the pvp

hushed jetty
past copper
#

I really doubt any will be killed off

#

If they’re not gonna add dead characters to the hero roster, it’s very unlikely to kill off one already in it

limpid agate
#

It goes against the game's core tone and themes very strongly

past copper
#

Honestly, only one that might MIGHT possibly be an exception to this core rule is Orisa

#

But even then, it more than likely unlikely

worthy rose
#

is bastion an omnic

grand vale
#

if you want to play add me falconking_01 on ps5 we need more ppl dm me ttv yt ect pro s ect

peak escarp
keen summit
# ruby ridge I feel like these would be the heroes dead

It doesnt make sense for them to kill enemies honestly, simple reason being that ramattra would surrender if the eorld is better for omnics, and doom also doesnt have bad motives. They are trying to all make a better future and just punishing them through death doesnt make sense for overwatch's themes

keen summit
#

Overwatch atm just doesnt know why hes doing it

#

Also anubjs we likely know the motive now, it was the god program based on ecology, so its likely anubis saw humanity as a threat to the planet

ruby ridge
#

Doctor six if your online do you have the thing where they confirmed not every ability is canon??

twilit patrol
ruby ridge
#

About that thing I don’t image it to happen in like a period of one year

#

Like

#

15 years into the future

twilit patrol
#

Maybe later than 2100

mystic jay
#

so i wanna talk rq abt sojourns attitude towards OW from the invasion missions

#

she knew serving ow was something she loved but she saw it was becoming a corrupt nation and she didn’t want that anymore

#

seeing this cutscene shows that as much as she loves her friends, she still decided it was better to move on from OW and move onto the next big thing

merry token
twilit patrol
#

(Not as much)

peak escarp
#

considering the average life expectancy now is around 80, it should be around 100 by then

#

Ana's got another 40 years in her

golden oak
#

Btw, what’s the oldest known character

peak escarp
#

Sigma

#

he's 64

fresh rock
#

Happy Halloween Lore Freaks! 🎃

woven jewel
# ruby ridge Ignore the upper part

Bastion I see, Reaper I see as Redemption, Rein I can both see and see why not, Ram doubt it unless it's last minute redemption, Sig don't see why, Winston would prob be a fakeout, Zen I can see, Doom doubt it, Ana don't see it but makes sense but then 76 should be here, too

distant sparrow
#

if so, fair enough, but im just wondering

ruby ridge
#

I imagined zenyatta dying for a sacrifice of some kind

#

Gifs his character

#

Fits

fresh rock
#

Again, highly unlikely.

#

It's most likely a fakeout.

golden oak
vapid tusk
#

ngl im kinda down to turn back to discussing real events

hexed pecan
#

rewatched Kiriko cinematic today, and seeing the little deaf girl, i have a seriously stupid question - if we would get a deaf character in game, would we hear the sounds when playing as that hero ? I mean it would be in character, but also a huge disadvantage

hushed jetty
#

presumably youd still hear sounds bc the hero would be complete ass otherwise

zealous pumice
#

It would be like if you played Ana and they took away half your field of vision and depth perception

hexed pecan
peak escarp
nimble iron
twilit patrol
#

Same for Reinhardt

#

But it would be terrible in game yes

woven jewel
#

You might have an ability that enhances something tho

#

Like it might give wall hacks if they're within like 6 [m] or something

worthy rose
#

anyone else feel like nova is what widow would be if overwatch were to capture her and fix her mind

#

like her new code name would be nova

spare fox
#

A hero without hearing could be very interesting. It'd be a very customized HUD - more in-depth than what they have now for various heroes with special HUDs

#

Maybe implement the rumble feature for controllers in a certain way but not sure how that'd translate to PC players w current technology yet

golden oak
peak escarp
worthy rose
upper scarab
#

taco bell

worthy rose
#

is the le sserafim concert canon?

peak escarp
#

no

keen summit
keen summit
ancient flax
#

Does Widow even have an interest in her previous life anymore? Or is she too brainwashed

hushed jetty
#

she visited her husband's grave for christmas once so idk

keen summit
worthy rose
#

change her name her hair and outfit yk to start new. Also idk if its just talk but i think mercy can fix widow bc of her voicelines

next jewel
#

So, we all know how there was the Omnic Crisis and it was Humans against Omnics, well, how tf did the Omnics lose when they had armys of Bastions

potent briar
#

I’d guess that it was because of Aurora's sacrifice that allowed the omnics to gain sentience and most of them joining with Overwatch to help with the war in their's and the human's favor

#

I would assume that Ramattra and Zenyatta were one of those omnics back then

#

Or because Bastion is more counterable than people think

rare trail
#

yeah humans were losing before aurora

#

its covered in genesis iirc

worthy rose
#

maybe

fresh rock
#

That's a crossover skin. It's not actually Widow.

worthy rose
#

i explained badly

woven jewel
#

'tis a headcanon I think

worthy rose
#

So did the Baptiste short story hint that Baptiste and Mauga had something together?

#

Like more than friends

peak escarp
#

not really

worthy rose
#

That obviously can't happen anymore

#

because Baptiste left him for dead

ruby ridge
#

Not the story itself

worthy rose
#

Ah

worn latch
#

I bet they're exes idc

#

Mauga real for that tho

hushed jetty
#

the writer seemed to have that intention though

supple ginkgo
#

how did cassidy lost one of his arms?

worthy rose
merry token
supple ginkgo
#

wait

worthy rose
#

Ashe said that she'd have "B.O.B rip off his other arm"

from the way she said it

it felt like she commanded bob to do it

#

as a punishment possibly

#

idk

supple ginkgo
#

yeah

#

that was what i wanted to say

merry token
supple ginkgo
#

how about his torso?

merry token
#

His torso is still in tact

#

Just his arm that’s missing

rare trail
#

also cassidy lost his arm after he left the deadlock gang

worthy rose
#

and he got it from moira and mercy

rare trail
#

?

merry token
worthy rose
#

ah

rare trail
#

yea

worthy rose
#

i didn't know

#

lmao

rare trail
#

maybe mercy though

worthy rose
#

maybe some event in between the end of overwatch - ow2 that they haven't shown yet?

#

that can be the only logical thing

supple ginkgo
merry token
supple ginkgo
#

oohhh

worthy rose
#

i wonder what happened to sojourn

#

did she like

#

get half her body destroyed

#

by an explosion

rare trail
#

nah

worthy rose
#

which is why she's full on cybernetic

rare trail
#

she had like a degenerative disease

worthy rose
#

like how does she go to the bathroom if the lower half of her body is gone

#

💀

supple ginkgo
#

btw who is sojourn

rare trail
#

. Born with a rare, terminal auto-immune disease that caused her body to attack its own organs,

worthy rose
merry token
worthy rose
#

um

#

steven chu confirmed

#

genji's "other half"

#

is fine

merry token
#

Genji?

worthy rose
#

😭

merry token
#

Yeah

worthy rose
#

yes

merry token
#

Sojourn is not Genji

#

😭

worthy rose
#

like for cybernetic terms

#

it's very funny

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

oh

#

i thought his name was steven

#

lmao

merry token
#

Westofhouse fr

supple ginkgo
#

the meta dps

#

well imma go now

#

peace out

peak escarp
#

he was asked if Genji could still use the toilet and he said yes, his lower torso still functions

#

many of Sojourn's organs were replaced with cybernetic components, but she would still have to eliminate waste somehow

worthy rose
#

hmm...

does sombra have any actual relationship with sigma, considering the interactions we have rn most likely aren't canon since we never actually see Talon setting up Sigma for battle?

vapid tusk
#

They most likely interacted a lot in Talon

worthy rose
#

but how and when?

#

we never have much sigma lore

rare trail
#

theyre both in talon

worthy rose
#

yeah but we never saw how they met, or how they got along

#

to see why their good friends apparently

#

and i love their relationship and i want it to be real

#

it's wholesome

vapid tusk
#

I can only guess from voice lines but it seems like they talk a lot about Moira’s experiments on Sigma

#

I doubt they had any relationship prior to Talon

worthy rose
#

yeah ofc not,

#

maybe she knew him from the news or whatever

#

for his discoveries

#

before the experiment

#

and after

peak escarp
#

it's plausible that Sombra could be friends with Sigma

worthy rose
#

PVE (Wave 2) should probably have a cutscene where talon's like

"we have one final option"

#

and then open some door to show sigma

#

to properly introduce him as an enemy

peak escarp
#

and Sigma looks very confused

worthy rose
#

yeah exactly

peak escarp
#

because he's never been used in the field

worthy rose
#

Sigma is most likely the most powerful hero in lore, but we haven't seen what he can do

#

The version we see ingame for PVP, is just a "what if" version

peak escarp
#

if he lived up to his full potential, sure

worthy rose
#

or at least that's how i feel

#

he didn't stabilize his powers yet to the point he can clamp up

#

black holes out of thin air

peak escarp
#

that would destroy the planet

worthy rose
#

oh god is siebren gonna die

peak escarp
#

he doesn't generate black holes

#

he just makes graviton wells

#

like Zarya's graviton surge

worthy rose
#

ah

#

what's another question i have for the doc

#

oh yeah,

#

maybe wanna spoil this idk

#

do you know what's going to happen in the next wave of pve if you saw any early footage?

#

|| i only saw genji toss stars at talon troopers and save Zenyatta||

peak escarp
#

my guess is Genji saves him and takes him to Overwatch for protection

#

and we get other missions with other Overwatch members in midtown and somewhere else

worthy rose
#

Ah alright

#

and- i don't know if i can recall this correctly

#

a friend told me that Lucio went with Orisa

#

to fight Doomfist

#

is that correct?

#

because then i'd say that's how we can have orisa join overwatch after some convincing i guess

rare trail
#

yeah that happens in hero of numbani

worthy rose
#

Oh good

#

then we'd also finally have more stuff on Efi too, finally being in a cutscene for once

#

The introduction of Lucio mentioning Orisa might be the teaser for the end of PVE wave 2

#

it'd only make sense

#

or the thing i mentioned for sigma

#

because we don't know where our heroes can go from there, and all characters have to be placed through sometime

spare fox
#

Last we saw of Efi and Orisa, they were assumedly being recruited for a mission by Sojourn, possibly for OW

#

At the end of Hero of Numbani

worthy rose
#

OH

#

DAMN

#

i need to be caught up in lore

#

i found out last month that reaper and soldier 76 exchanged blows in cairo

#

i literally thought they never met and soldier was trying to find him

rare trail
#

soldier and reaper used to work together in overwatch

worthy rose
#

ofc i know that

rare trail
#

then why did you think they had never met?

worthy rose
#

i meant like

#

never met after the incident

#

of the hospital bombing

rare trail
#

hospital?

#

swiss hq?

worthy rose
#

hq

#

my bad

#

i thought it was a hospital because mercy is swiss

#

and whatever

#

but anyway

#

i was just saying

#

that's how far behind i am in lore

#

it's quite funny

peak escarp
#

well there's resources in the pins to help you catch up

worthy rose
#

i'll read em when i can, ty reaphapp

next jewel
#

Wouldn't Sigma be the strongest character in the lore if it wasn't for him to go insane because of his control over gravity?

peak escarp
#

potentially

next jewel
#

I mean, what is someone like Bastion of Genji gonna do if the bullets are immidently brought to the ground or just lifted up and you can't do anything with the dragonsword

past pollen
#

this chat is funny

austere jetty
#

Doomfist clears all of ow

rare trail
#

winston and orisa have both beaten him

austere jetty
#

Nah

#

Doomfist clears

#

1v4

rare trail
#

?

austere jetty
#

Didn’t he beat tracer genji

rare trail
#

yeah

austere jetty
#

And the other people

#

I don’t think it was 1v4

#

But stil

rare trail
#

winston beat doomfist after that

austere jetty
#

After the unfair fight

#

😭

#

Winston is so silly

peak escarp
#

her mother was the Shimada's swordmaster

#

and her father was their blacksmith

woven jewel
#

Where they different families/clans?

peak escarp
#

yes

#

Kiriko is from the Yamagami family

keen summit
austere jetty
#

Finger wag

keen summit
#

Doom is powerfull, maybe more powerfull than orisa, however orisa can beat doom cuz thats what shes built for

worthy basin
#

Blizzard really missed an opportunity to have junkrat’s birthday be on guy fawkes day

peak escarp
#

leap day is funnier

vapid tusk
#

jr was born on leap day?

light grail
#

Does anybody know how Junker Queen's lore ties her to Overwatch? In any way?

hushed jetty
#

overwatch like the organization?

#

bc it doesn't, at all

#

she's tied to junkertown and the junkers, that's it

light grail
#

Oh okay thx

keen summit
#

Overwatch heroes in game arent all tied to overwatch in lore

light grail
#

They just exist in the Overwatch universe right?

rare yarrow
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Anyone here got the story missions?

hushed jetty
rare yarrow
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Yeah I wanna try beat it on legendary

hushed jetty
lavish vessel
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Or the lfg channels

worthy rose
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Solo all of ow

golden oak
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When Vishkar tank
Like, Sanjay with a mech that has hard light technology or something

keen summit
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would be sick ngl

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sanjay with the motivation of actually thinking they need to create a better world by cleansing the old one, thats why theyre with talon (please blizz dont just make it "vishkar wants money")

woven yew
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in the short "Recall" why was reaper going for data?

keen summit